Never heard one acknowledgement of being too low. Not one acknowledgement of being below glide slope. Not one acknowledgement of losing airspeed and being too slow. I did hear the proper “oh shit” as the plane contacted the ground.
@joemeyer68766 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Moyer I heard the FE call ‘airspeed’ three times.
@evanfeiring51994 жыл бұрын
that oh shit was actually my grandfather and he survived this along with everybody else he said after they crashed he thought he was in heaven when he saw the emergency services running recorded the plane
@calvinnickel99954 жыл бұрын
Typical for a task-saturated crew. That’s why you brief at altitude and not on final approach.
@calvinnickel99954 жыл бұрын
Also. The ILS was not tuned at they had originally planned an approach to another runway but broke off visually to land on this runway. It’s entirely possible that there were glide slope indications that were low and non-representative of the chosen runway.
@Hellobob589 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to judge (I've never flown anything bigger than a Cessna) but it really sounds like the three stooges are flying the plane
@stevefick39194 жыл бұрын
I concur...
@calvinnickel99954 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Configuration and considerations should have been briefed at altitude not up for discussion on final approach. It could have been the distraction that caused them to miss the throttle swap to engine indications.
@nattybumppo41512 жыл бұрын
Oh it is. And they are all probably generals by now. The AF loves these type of pilots
@cefb89232 жыл бұрын
I think the majority of the talking is actually from the flight engineers and not the pilots. Because you hear a voice that says airspeed which you basically don't hear the entire recording. The FE on the C5 doesn't have an ASI I believe.
@oibal607 жыл бұрын
"Guys... I'm concerned."
@dj67697 жыл бұрын
Gerald's Videos I’d been REAL CONCERNED GO AROUND and figure out where we’re at and who’s flying this thing!
@windshearahead70124 жыл бұрын
Gerald's Videos 🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
@theaviator56374 жыл бұрын
STOP SAY "I'm concerned" SHUT THE FUCK UP
@superb52184 жыл бұрын
@@theaviator5637 lol what?
@ayuse012 жыл бұрын
2:03 If these are the real telemetric data links, then it shows that the crew briefly throttles the third engine, the engine started to make power, then they cut it to idle right away. Had they kept the 3rd throttle maxed out, they would've saved it.
@10blader6 жыл бұрын
"Guys I'm concerned." 2:01
@windshearahead70124 жыл бұрын
Pedro Victor LMAO
@TakeDeadAim4 жыл бұрын
The PF had #2 out but inadvertently grabbed it's throttle rather than the good #3 so they were trying to land that pig on two engines. You'd think SOMEONE would have noticed that. It's why you IDENTIFY and VERIFY the bad lump.
@hayesm213 жыл бұрын
As we can see, lack of crew resource management and situational awareness caught up with them. They were heavy taking off on a trip to Germany, there were several IP's into cockpit. I can imagine the left seater is flying Cessnas now if anything.
@-GrimEngineer-13377 жыл бұрын
Not sure why no one looked at engine output N1 when they were not getting power..."that's all we got", no it sure isn't when your 1 and 4 N1 are the only ones indicating useful power. Isn't this really basic stuff? I mean I get the fact that they were on final and focused on the approach but it was evident 60 seconds beforehand that they were very underpowered, Which would have led me to immediately look at engine output.
@googaagoogaa123456785 жыл бұрын
also may i ask why they were doing the throttles like that anyway? wouldnt it be easier and make more sense to move them as a unit like normal or is there a procedure or what?
@mbta10005 жыл бұрын
@@googaagoogaa12345678 I mean, you're not really going to get a response on using them all as a unit when the #2 engine is dead. I guess it's more or less procedure to manipulate the working engines.
@pjohan743 ай бұрын
@@googaagoogaa12345678 they had an indication that thrust reverser doors were not locked properly and you really don't want a reversed engine at full speed when you are in the air.
@DanielCharry102513 жыл бұрын
WTF 120 knots!?!?!? Those guys need an airspeed indicator in front of them; BUT REALLY IN FRONT OF THEM.
@mkarnerfors12 жыл бұрын
"On 3 April 2006, C-5B 84-0059 crashed following a cockpit indication that a thrust reverser was not locked." "The Air Force's accident investigation board report concluded the cause to be human error, most notably the crew had been manipulating the throttle of the dead engine as if it was still running while keeping live engine at idle. The situation was further worsened by the crew's decision to use a high flap setting that increased drag beyond normal two engine capabilities." All survived.
@Stealthpanther17 жыл бұрын
I bet the late great Curt Gowdy would have loved to narrate an episode of "Where are they now" on these guys :-)
@Bane_Diesel13 жыл бұрын
@JonisKanonis All 17 people on board the C-5 survived the crash.
@ihavenocreativity26666 жыл бұрын
looks like a 5 year old trying to land in FSX
@_____Justin______5 жыл бұрын
And that’s why once you shut an engine down, you bring the throttle back in line with the rest of them so this confusion doesn’t occur. The engineer and pilots should have looked at N1 indication and immediately seen that they were only using power in two engines. Tragic.
@bradburyrobinson4 жыл бұрын
Could either of you explain to a layman why this is the case? Why would you keep the shut down engine lever in line?
@_____Justin______4 жыл бұрын
Bradbury Robinson to prevent exactly what happened here. Pulling the throttles back and then accidentally throttling up the dead engine and crashing due to lack of thrust and climb capability.
@_____Justin______3 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Playford about what?
@AirplaneRider14 жыл бұрын
@dman72 #2 is out, but they pulled the throttle on #3, which meant they were only getting thrust from 2 engines. What you are hearing are two loops. The pilots can't here the engineers chatting. Losing one engine in a C-5 isn't that big of a deal (I've been there before), but losing 2 at high weight is a bad day at the office.
@jamesbehrje42795 жыл бұрын
When a C5 opens its doors as a hip new hangout in the sky. Come join the fun with the best party in the galaxy!!!
@batterypacks Жыл бұрын
Those vietnamese people boutta get angry by their plants being wrecked 💀
@pjohan743 ай бұрын
I don't know if there are that many vietnamese people in Delaware growing plants near that airport.
@paraord141012 жыл бұрын
Lack of a "sterile cockpit" was the direct cause - the so-called throttle-swap was an indirect result of this - resulting in mass-confusion on the part of the PIC. He was trying to listen to "too many cooks spoiling the broth" & lost focus on what was going on. I quite imagine that there have been some massive & serious changes in AF cockpit (CRM) protocol as a result of this outcome evidence. Wonder what the crew is doing nowadays - driving busses for NYC or Chicago Transit, I would imagine...
@a365384 жыл бұрын
do you have more MAAF animations?
@macfan99912 жыл бұрын
guys I'm concerned.
@theaviator56374 жыл бұрын
Damm you
@theaviator56374 жыл бұрын
STOP SAYING THIS SHIT IDIOT
@cefb89232 жыл бұрын
Everyone is critiquing the crew but you have to remember they're reservists. Not saying what they did wasn't inexcusable.. I'm just saying give an active duty crew the same situation (or the vast majority of reserve/guard crews) the same situation and they'd be 100 percent fine. Most of these guys flying isn't their job, it's a hobby. There's a reason why the FAA has rules on proficiency.
@Itapirkanmaa2 Жыл бұрын
An expensive hobby for the US taxpayer.
@cefb8923Ай бұрын
@@Itapirkanmaa2 It definitely is, but there's really no other way to get then Manning quotas they need. Everyone complains about the money until there's compulsory service or a draft... funny how quickly that ends.
@googaagoogaa123456785 жыл бұрын
the cause of this was a bit stupid but at the end of the day the good part is everyone on board survived and nobody on the ground was hurt
@albertonino26524 жыл бұрын
Cause the fuckers were going so slow. It was like an unintentional emergency landing.
@brendonnashca Жыл бұрын
What were the other circumstances? Was fatigue an issue?
@brendonnashca Жыл бұрын
Okay, read the report, yeah they suck.
@jmvneto5112 жыл бұрын
What a collection of errors! At 5NM out it is already bellow glide scope but it did not even maintain altitude to intercede it closer to the airport. It kept losing altitude. Then at 0:43 #1, 3 and 4 engines are brought to idle and then, immediately, #1, 2 (which looks inoperative) and 4 are powered up again. The culprit of all. Now the C5 is flying with two engines instead three. Hard to recover a heavy bird that is going down at more than 500ft/m, with full flaps and two engines at maximum.
@yayitsafreakingrandomchannelxd4 жыл бұрын
Looks like they're playing a flight simulator
@zigaretos14 жыл бұрын
How can be 200-250 feet below glide slope ?
@marwanwahed46525 жыл бұрын
One question is that from air crash investigation (as known mayday)?
@bachhoptang56512 жыл бұрын
What game is this game if you where I'm going to give you a share and sign up for you
@raoulcruz44047 жыл бұрын
When an aircraft is flown by committee....
@JoePro12433 жыл бұрын
What is this the fuckin U.N. now?!?
@burkezillar17 жыл бұрын
why is it illegal. in the grand scheme of most peoples lives, how does this video being private affect us? its the government treating people like 5 year olds. its not on.
@bmused557 жыл бұрын
It's like neither of them had a clue how to fly
@flyman11857 жыл бұрын
Tragically embarrassing.
@paraord141011 жыл бұрын
Yes - and not maintaining a sterile cockpit GREATLY added to the confusion - to the point where the pilot shut down the wrong engine and actually got lost in the process!! As a CFII/Single/Multi/II/A&P Mech of well over 35 years, I should know a thing or two. Maintaining a sterile cockpit is almost mandatory in virtually every civilian and military transport-category aircraft that I'm aware of - I flew P-3(B) Orion ASW planes in the US Navy for 2-1/2 years - NATOPS is quite adamant about this!!
@icemachine797 жыл бұрын
+paraord1410 The two pilots and flight engineer were in the middle of running a checklist when the throttles were swapped. The only conversation which could even be considered somewhat non-pertinent (the speed chart and flaps setting) didn't involve the two pilots, and all of the live mics were merged together on this copy of the voice recording so it only _sounds_ like they're all talking over each other even though they weren't. That's why one of the engineers didn't know where they were. Besides, the conversation happened *after* the mistake was made. The PIC was silent through most of the proceedings, and since the co-pilot was busy flying the plane, I think the PIC is ultimately responsible for failing to notice the throttle swap. His "bring it out of stick shaker" comment as they were passing above electrical lines a *few feet* above the ground was almost laughable and demonstrates his poor situational awareness skills in general.
@JosiasRivera6 жыл бұрын
paraord1410 wrong
@iggy0825 жыл бұрын
@Computer Whisperer go back to reddit then, fedora
@harriettoh71883 жыл бұрын
@@iggy082 I know this comment is 2 years ago but what do you mean?
@cree619816 жыл бұрын
nobody died in this accident. This was never supposed to get out but was leaked. Their was an engine switch when he brought all to idle. Also their were only supposed to be 4o% flaps not 100
@michaelpellegrino17542 жыл бұрын
Did they survive.??
@cefb89232 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ancalites5 ай бұрын
They all survived
@mer2705 Жыл бұрын
Did they dieded?
@R2Bl3nd2 жыл бұрын
This crew shouldn't even be in charge of a paper airplane, let alone a huge heavy jet. Sounds like complete dysfunction and amateur hour in the cockpit.
@dmsdmullins8 жыл бұрын
How do you loose so much situational awareness to forget which motor you had to shut down earlier? You have to pull that dead motor throttle over a detent to shut it down. You would have to pull out on the stick and back over the detent to make that mistake... Not surprised however, I was a crew-chief and have witnessed pilots reading magazines and taking naps in the flight deck.
@cefb89232 жыл бұрын
Thats fine when you're in cruise on autopilot.. not when you have a dead engine and you're heavy.
@rizkypratama69794 жыл бұрын
pull up terrain terrain pull up terrain terrain pull up pull up terrain terrain
@skyking04754 жыл бұрын
3 engine day became the dreaded 2 engine day we practiced in the sims . Not a lot of thrust to keep a heavy weight day like that airborne , then they go to 100% FLAPS . NOOOOOOOOO. THEN RETRACT THEM TO 40% , Noooooo !! Potential Smokin hole on that page of the -1 ( dash one )
@Hyacinthe19694 жыл бұрын
I was thinking they seemed a little far out and low for full flaps... yes, more lift, but so much airspeed lost too...
@teacher5555557 жыл бұрын
i didn't see the crash itself but this happened very near me as i live south of dover. what caused this C5 to crash, it was pilot error mostly, watch the throttles number 2 engine is out and he cuts power to number 3. so the plane is flying on 2 engines and they do the checklist for a 3 engine landing. so he slowed down too much to land safely at the base, the good thing about this crash was the fact that it was good that he was coming in from the south east where no houses were, if he would have came from the northwest, there would have been people killed and a bigger investigation would have taken place.
@deadchannel29366 жыл бұрын
is the stall alarm from the simulator i think it is
@mr.pattonshistoryandpoliti58955 жыл бұрын
I hear NO checklists. Lots of folks talking; no one listening or checking anything.
@jmvneto5112 жыл бұрын
@jmvneto51 meant: '...to intersect it...'
@carlosxavieravalosaristov97588 жыл бұрын
it crash like asiana airlines flight 214
@windshearahead70124 жыл бұрын
Scorpio Rose this has nothing to do with anything in this Conversation. The first guy said the crash looked like asiana, then the second guy said something about it and you came up with a meme blaming the first guy for not getting it. ***** dumba$$
@JonisKanonis17 жыл бұрын
Did they survive?
@Jukelikesgames7 жыл бұрын
JonisKanonis a little late on this reply... but ya
@LeeJericho14 жыл бұрын
its says about 2:00
@JorgeHernandez-lp1lc7 жыл бұрын
y como hacen esas animaciones??
@cultfriend15 күн бұрын
En el juego de flight simulator
@The_Unintelligent_Speculator6 жыл бұрын
3 stooges comment is the winner
@burkezillar17 жыл бұрын
its called freedom of speech
@nf83747 жыл бұрын
Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it. NTSB reports are confidential until the investigation is complete. After that they are publicly available
@Religious_man7 жыл бұрын
It's also called, "use your fuckin' head" you dipshit.
@elmin23234 жыл бұрын
Worst case of NTS
@elmin23233 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Playford yes
@BozonCechowania9 жыл бұрын
why did this happen ? DME should tell them they are to far from airport
@noslincarvalho83898 жыл бұрын
+18Mortus18 DRAWING CAN NOT UNDERSTAND? I WAS LOOKING FOR A REVIEW INTELLIGENT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED! And I thought ONLY 1 EXPLAINING in the obvious way jmvneto51
@planeguy1418 жыл бұрын
+18Mortus18 This had NOTHING to do with distance from the airport. WATCH THE VIDEO, it shows EXACTLY what happened.
@RubenKelevra7 жыл бұрын
They extended the broken engine instead of the working one, so they are running only 2 engines and extended the flaps which increased the drag.
@boggy85574 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this is from a sim session.
@evanfeiring51994 жыл бұрын
no my grandfather was in the plane during the crash
@mumisanmartin16 жыл бұрын
you know youneed to get a little more up if u know what I mean k and point the nose up about 1/4 th way than what you did
@MR_333. Жыл бұрын
Asiana 214
@elmin23235 жыл бұрын
Typical yankee air force cadets
@elmin23234 жыл бұрын
@WilshirecityBlues lol and a few more
@787BOEING812 жыл бұрын
im not a pilot of any kind i can make a better landing
@grayjiang15 жыл бұрын
This video should not be on youtube; it says at the end; For Official Use Only. Can someone report this to youtube as a violation of policies?
@nf83747 жыл бұрын
That only applies during the investigation. It becomes public once the investigation is final
@theaviator56374 жыл бұрын
IT SHOULD BE ON KZbin! THICK BAD DRUNK JANE
@theaviator56374 жыл бұрын
Jane YOU ARE AN IDIOT the video is on KZbin and never never will reported