C.J. Stroud, Texans defeat Browns, Lions win 1st playoff game in 32 Years | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST

Nick Wright, Kevin Wildes, Chris Broussard and Eric Mangini discuss the Houston Texans win over the Cleveland Browns, C.J. Stroud’s playoff debut and the Detroit Lions win over the Los Angeles Rams in the Super Wild Card weekend round of the NFL playoffs.
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C.J. Stroud, Texans defeat Browns, Lions win 1st playoff game in 32 Years | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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[@persistentlypathetic6820]

CJ Stroud is everything Nick wished Trevor Lawrence was.

[@rylandkozlowski]

As a Jags fan here: this.

[@phantoMpikachu]

to be fair TLaw was exceptional for the last 10 games of last year, he has that within him, it just didn't show itself much at all this season. but yes, CJ is already great, imo

[@brothaghost6554]

Yikes 😂

[@christopherhaynes8101]

@@phantoMpikachuTlaw: 10 good games in 3 years: the future . Everyone else is the problem

[@TaylorMadeStreams]

YES!

[@BigBoi678]

Remember though the Texans were literately the worse team zero prospects last season. They were the bottom of the barrel both offensively and defensively. The other great QB rookies had either decent or great offensive weapons or defenses. Its with this context is why I think what the Texans are doing is so phenomenal.

[@1josh]

​@@colebacca1369c'mon man

[@colebacca1369]

@@1josh what?

[@mattsupachat5962]

Literately

[@ChadPowerz]

I mean Young has no help offensively (not saying he is comparable to Stroud) stroud is already an elite QB he is nuts

[@gmoney87ism]

Correct, they went from practically a nonentity to a viable team almost overnight with stroud. Even if he’s not the best, dude showed up and now they aren’t an embarrassment. I’m happy for that

[@SkyJW15]

Have to disagree strongly with Coach on CJ vs Big Ben. Big Ben was not the reason the Steelers did that well. The team around him carried him through his rookie season until the AFCCG where he got smoked. CJ has completely transformed that offense and he is the reason the Texans are going further than the Cowboys are this postseason. Obviously other players have stepped up and Ryans is a great head coach so far, but Stroud has literally done the opposite of what Big Ben did by being "that guy" immediately.

[@MarvyG23]

Ben made a difference that season, he didn’t have godly numbers like stroud but he won us games

[@SkyJW15]

@@MarvyG23 He was serviceable for a rookie. Stroud has been outstanding as a rookie. When you're talking about the rookie QB season that was better, it's 100% Stroud. He's working with far less than Big Ben had and doing more with it, including breaking multiple records and putting himself in a club where the only other members are Montana and Brady. Coach could not be more off the mark trying to make a case that Ben had the better rookie QB season. He's looking at it from the lens of the record Ben had rather than the performance that got him there which wasn't nearly as good as what Stroud has done this year.

[@RiccyTBeatz]

@@SkyJW15serviceable is crazy bro. Please watch Ben's rookie season highlights or somethin. You gotta remember the Steelers were a running team in the early 2000's. Completely different. He also went 14-0 in the regular season in games that he started.

[@SkyJW15]

@@RiccyTBeatz Ben had 2,600 yards passing with 11 TDs to 7 INTs. Those are solid enough numbers for a rookie QB (though the TD-INT ratio ain't great), but it's nothing amazing. Sure, the Steelers were a rushing team, but that's literally my point - they didn't rely on HIM. And, when they needed to rely on him more in the AFCCG, he got absolutely smoked. Big Ben is a no doubt HoF QB, not trying to put him down. But the rookie year Stroud is having is just heads and tails better than Ben's and it isn't even close.

[@samh7805]

I agree. Stroud already looks like a veteran. He plays like he’s been doing this for 10 years. Look at Nico Collins last 2 seasons vs this season. A great elite qb elevates their receivers and lets them reach their potential, and that’s exactly what stroud has done

[@Kuzan919]

Remember when nick said the wrong team was favored and the Rams had the better coach and QB? McVay got completely outclassed coached down the stretch and stafford got suffocated in the red zone. I don’t know why everyone is so reluctant to give the lions credit.

[@anandnathan6851]

Detroit vs. Everybody has been a mantra for about a decade now. We're used to being overlooked and disrespected. Just like that '04 Pistons team that beat the Lakers or the 80s team that beat the Lakers.

[@b84__]

Maybe because it took help from the refs to squeak by a mid team by 1 point? Or when baltimore (real team) kicked y'alls teeth in.. no detroit has not won the trade.. anything short of a superbowl is a failure..

[@DetVen]

Lions are building a dynasty that's going to surpass the Patriots with BB and TB...it's my dream😊.

[@omonray2010]

And the rams still have a better qb and coach😂 they did lose though so props to Detroit

[@Yungbrose]

The refs did that. The lions lost control at the end of the 3rd and the entire 4th quarter. The lions most definitely got out played and coached. No other team would have gotten away with hold puka the entire 4th quarter and an obvious pass interference, much worse then what was called us! And a hold on the edge rusher? He fell down. Lions didn't deserve this.

[@damianl680]

Poor man’s Joel osteen killed me 😂

[@paulmayer8654]

21 minutes on Dallas doing what they do every post season, and 7 minutes combined for the best rookie QB of all-time winning again and a historic playoff win in Detroit. Well done, guys.

[@user-yr8ss8ir6i]

Yep, pathetic .

[@paulmayer8654]

@BetterThanYou-uj4cd if you think a QB who started 7 games on a stacked roster comes close to doing what Stroud did this year, you have 0 ability to think objectively.

[@TitanPardy808]

Because Dallas was an SBOB while the average fan can’t name 4 players on the Texans or Lions.

[@yusufe9465]

Tbf they have another extra 5 minutes if the lions game in the full hour clip. And unfortunately it’s a business at the end of the day and cowboys talk always brings in big numbers

[@Jp-do9ny]

Exactly lol. I wanted to hear about the lions and I'm a 49ers fan

[@DianaRussia531]

Stroud has been historic. Three QBs in the last 50 seasons have led the NFL in Pass YPG and Pass TD/INT ratio in a single year 1989 Joe Montana, 2007 Tom Brady, 2023 C.J. Stroud - as per @NFLonCBS

[@DirtyDLions685]

Did this clown just say the Lions are lucky? Lmao he’s the lucky one for having the fortune of being on Bill Belichick’s coaching staff, bc he clearly showed over and over that he couldn’t be a head coach himself. Lions were the better team last night, no luck involved.

[@derekharp2805]

This disrespect for the Lions is unbelievable and unacceptable. The sports media is a disgrace. Just ridiculous, and a lot like the media that covers politics in this country. They are one in the same!

[@ryanhough6686]

To be expected. Just look at how much of this episode, and virtually every episode this season, they have spent talking about the Dallas Cowboys....

[@ye6973]

Disgraceful and unacceptable! Who cares that much it’s just the opinions of people that chose this industry

[@joshuamartin2858]

I know. It's almost like they don't know what to do now that the lions are a juggernaut and it can't be denied. Call them lucky is the next step. Idiots

[@b84__]

Take your maga talking points to faux news or some basement fringe blog and cry there lmao

[@nirvanaguitar]

I've accepted it and decided that even once we win the big one, we'll still be a punchline.

[@Messigoat1033]

If CJ isn’t the best rookie ever then who is? Name one player who had a great regular season with only 5 INTC and took a team who only won 3 games in 3 years to winning the division and reaching the divisional round?

[@jasonjanisewski78]

Otto Graham. He won the Championship his 1st year. In addition to QB also played DB and returned punts

[@kxshgaming4773]

@@jasonjanisewski78those prehistoric stats don’t count

[@gOD_SmackED]

​@@jasonjanisewski78games before civil rights act don't count.....

[@trainkobe2424]

Nobody

[@luciuspaullus1948]

Ben Rothlisberger was pretty good

[@brad4687]

The possibility of a Green Bay AT Detroit NFC total game is purely amazing

[@donna7059]

You can't discount the coaching of both DeMeco Ryans and Bobby Slowik. Slowick schemed a fantastic game, but he needed someone like CJ to make it work. It doesn't work if there is no CJ - two other QBs on that team while CJ was out and neither could touch what CJ did in that offense. CJ has no fear and believes he can do anything on the field. Teammates say he has ice in his veins. As a Texans fan, I absolutely love the aggressive play of this team.

[@aaronclay4665]

everyone is........ppl cap, texans has good players and cj is great............but that coaching staff is the real gem they got, demeco and his whole staff is what turned texans around.

[@MrKlean6300]

Disagree with Nick and Brou. I do believe Stafford was the better QB in this game, however MCDC did outcoach McVay. The Lions utilized all of their targets rather than one or two players. Also, The Lions endzone defense did well considering how hot the Rams offense was.

[@Yungbrose]

The refs out coaching the opponents

[@DirtyDLions685]

@@Yungbroseif the refs called everything in that game, I wonder how many holding calls Hutchinson would have drawn….10? Maybe 15? Lol keep crying loser.

[@legorovers9838]

stafford was undoubtedly the better qb that game

[@SW1MMR223]

@@Yungbrosehow

[@glowaves]

Kind of hard to evaluate with the awful officiating.

[@soragoku8217]

“Led by a poor mans Joel osteen” 😂😂😂 like him or not, Nick has some great one liners often.

[@Slipknot5301]

can't argue with that lmao

[@glowaves]

The NFL needs a complete overhaul of its officiating system over the off season.

[@briane8627]

20 minutes on the cowboys. 3 minutes on the Texans. Thanks Nick!

[@chasingfelix3609]

The Cowboys matter more. Don’t act dense.

[@rafaelisslaam1894]

no they dont, they are garbage, Texans are the real deal.@@chasingfelix3609

[@firstgradewumbo5607]

Literally no show talked about the Texans undressing everyone's dark horse pick for the Superbowl. Honestly disrespectful

[@briane8627]

Emmitt Smith retired a long time ago. Time to let it go.@@chasingfelix3609

[@akin242002]

​@firstgradewumbo5607 Cowboys generate more views: more fans and more haters than the Texans.

[@justintallman3398]

At the end you can hear Wildes say "did you watch the Lions game ball video" or something to that effect. For those that haven't seen it, MCDC just said "you are f---ing good for Detroit Goff" and gave him the ball, which I thought was just fantastic.

[@Adri_Unsung]

That whole team plays for each other, but man do they play for their coach and QB. That’s a brotherhood.

[@cmack1914]

😂😂😂” A poor man’s Joel Osteen?”

[@kspar7]

lmaoooooo glad someone else caught that haha🤣

[@grahamman80]

It's not CJ's numbers that make him so impressive to watch. It's his processing, pocket presence and nearly flawless mechanics. He looks like a 5th year all-pro caliber QB.

[@maximuskeene8572]

the weirdest part is that stroud and love, both winning their first ever playoff start, had almost the exact same stat line of 16-21 for 270ish yards and 3 tds

[@aaronclay4665]

but both did it diff ways.......BOTH qb got easy TD or two on blown coverages, BOTH qb yards are inflated cuz of yac......cj tho played a team with 14 or more players on IR or hurt and browns starting 4 and 5 string linemen, while dallas just got humiliated BECAUSE IT WAS 28 ZERO.......at least the browns texans game it was 10 point game late in the 3rd untill joe flacco threw two straight pick 6s.............

[@IcebergSnoop]

@@aaronclay4665and both QBs recognized the “blown” coverages to exploit them lol SMH

[@skippythetubrat]

Let's see. Nick picked 2 out of 6 correctly. Congrats on the sub 20% success rate, Nick!

[@pleasedonttemptme5963]

Being a Detroit native and long time Lions fan, I was happy to see Stafford win in LA. I never believed him (For obvious reasons lol) but he proved me wrong in 2021. With that said, it was soooo satisfying to see of all QBs (Stafford) come into Detroit, and get beat and earn us something he never could do - 1 single playoff win 😭.. It was one of the happiest sights of my life, waited almost 2 decades for this

[@ericparker163]

He gonna try to say Ben was better? 😆 gtfoh That Steelers team won with a furious run game and defense. They just needed Ben to not mess it up with interceptions. He in no way carried that team the way CJ carries the Texans.

[@JonKlinkel]

Otto Graham had a pretty good rookie season....

[@chriss7447]

I was happy watching this game. As a niners fan. Plus this texas team has more playoff games than the cowboys since the texans came in the league 2002😂😂

[@King0neEurope]

There is still too much disrespect for the Lions. Things didnt fall their way, they earned every bit. And the cowboys going out is not good for the 49ers.. dont know how Nick can think that.

[@angelatanurdzic7508]

Thanks for this great show.

[@moigonzaga]

I WANT TO SEE BROU TOMORROW!!!!! 😂

[@Alireza3071]

CJ blipping Stroud ..........

[@NickSibz]

Truly a wild, wild card weekend. A few great stories though. Beyond happy for the Lions, their fans and Baker Mayfield.

[@aaronboone8097]

I love Coach but he can’t be serious saying Ben Roethlisberger had the best rookie season. Ben averaged 187 yards a game and had 17 TD and 11INT. Stroud averaged 273 yards a game and had 23TD and 5INT. I know the Steelers had a great record with record with Ben, but team wins are a team stat. If their individual stats were close you could use their team records as a tie breaker but their stats aren’t close at all.

[@Romans128renew]

I agree. Further, that team had the Bus, Troy, Heinz Ward, and slew of other great players on both defense and offense.

[@megatron3437]

I'm surprised Brou didn't mention Purdy...Coach s right bout CJ not being greatest rookie ever cos of the wildcard game win. If he wins the Superbowl or gets there, then he s the greatest rookie QB of all time...There is also this recurring point that he doesn't have good players around him that I hope these analysts will address. So why are they winning cos last I checked NFL is a team sport.

[@jschultz2363]

Every team in the NFL needs luck. I love how jerks with opinions always look for excuses when Lions win. Lions were one point better than Rams that night that is all that matters now.

[@Theshow06b]

Feel like you guys are describing what an MvP should be. Without CJ that team might be winless

[@jaz-z-e7449]

I love Nick and we miss you in H-Town fam! Thank you for reppin the city well 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🫶🏾

[@buckhorncortez]

If the Lions win the next game, I'll be excited. One win = you're Wayne Fontes...

[@CarolinaCharles777]

So...Big Ben had 2 running backs that rushed for more than 800 yards his rookie season. He also had a defense that allowed only 12 points a game. I'd like to think CJ or ANY good QB might go undefeated in that situation. And PIT barely beat the Jets in the first round of the playoffs, despite a couple of INTs from Ben. He threw more INTs against the Patriots in the AFC Championship and lost. Ben: 2,000+ yards, 17 TDs, 11 INTs/CJ: 4,000+ yards, 23 TDs, 5 INTs. Not comparison.

[@Zaknyfein]

There is no way I could have imagined Green Bay or the Lions winning without Nick betting against them...Does that mean I need to attribute my new found wealth to him...

[@kinglucarius4960]

Honestly, Stroud should’ve had more of a stake in the MVP convo in retrospect; mans has essentially dragged a beaten-up Houston team to a playoff win just a year after they were a laughing stock. Def with Nick on this one

[@CooJoe05]

CJ did what he did with a team of players without names....Drafted Tank Dell, Collins had his best year ever....Singletary was an avr RB at best and then get 2 players Dallas didnt want Brown and Schultz who are both good receivers...a banged up offensive line...Defense was built...and yet CJ get the Texans a 10 win season missed 2 games...(or he would have rewritten all the rookie passing records) and WILL win the ROY and Should win the MVP..If he knocks off Mahomes or Lamar or BOTH! This team is just getting started...

[@usnairframer]

Given the level of commentary we get from these guys (see their takes on Mahomes) I'm amazed they're not crowning CJ as the greatest QB in history (behind their beloved Mahomes, of course). So many back-handed Lions compliments.

[@theprodigyofrock]

Mangini is a fool, the lions are a great team

[@MihaiAz]

I don't know how much support Big Ben had in his rookie year, but Stroud didn't have big names. His team didn't had a JJ Watt or D-Hop in his prime. In addition, he only had 5 interceptions, while Ben had 12. Then we add the fact that he won a playoff game. What could be argued against Stroud is that this nfl season has been weak, maybe very weak. In his division, all teams had injured quarterbacks, and as a result, they seemed lacking in consistency and occasionally constipated. Still, I say he's the best rookie QB, at least from recent years.

[@thejuniors5345]

Big Ben walked into a Powerhouse Program. Hall of Famers everywhere

[@TheeRomantic]

Nick Caserio deserves major credit

[@sweetlou3572]

Nick is so much better with a little humility

[@grifnels]

I don’t think I’ve seen one accurate prediction from Nick. Still laughing about the Chiefs undefeated season take 😂😂

[@jamescurtis9218]

Lets face a black qb will never get the praise as a white qb doug williams won a superbowl shined in the sb you never his name mentioned even if they win sb it will be some other bs excuse

[@grifnels]

@@jamescurtis9218 Oh I was talking about his prediction about Rams beating the Lions. But Patrick Mahomes is the most popular and widely known QB in the NFL right now, so I disagree with your comment.

[@grifnels]

@@jamescurtis9218 Also, Doug Williams AND Patrick Mahomes won Super Bowl MVP. Mahomes has been MVP twice. Is that not the highest form of praise you can achieve as an NFL player?

[@chriss7447]

I had green bay and texans winning this week thats why they call me the punxsutawney phil of football but the dolphins ruined my parlay😭

[@jabari3313]

Calling the lions lucky not good is absolutely crazy

[@exoticsoysauce9239]

Not exactly what he said that’s how you interpreted it

[@stevehill4002]

Kinda hard to put pressures on against that oline

[@npierce14]

He called that man a poor man’s Joel osteen hahah

[@Romans128renew]

Ben had a plethora of talent on that Steelers’ team: HOF players.

[@edoardovicario4837]

I can't suffer Coach

[@Jstef09]

Detroit Vs Everybody

[@rohanshah7559]

the 49ers and Lions are both probably itching for a rematch with the ravens after how the regular season matches went. I’d love to see either of those matchups in the Super Bowl, the tension would be REAL

[@westongaddis479]

I Love how Herbert’s rookie year isn’t mentioned once even tho he has all the rookie records 💀💀

[@Durag__bandit98]

Coach act like ben was solely the reason that team was that great when Cj is dragging no name guys a below average oline and an opportunistic defense not a great lockdown defense

[@SwankySandGaming]

THIS IS THE BEST GROUP OF QBs at ONE TIME then there has ever been. Cj was top 3 in every category. Was in the MVP race until he got injured. He would have broken every record and had the most passing yards of EVERY QB in the league. Why even argue 😂

[@jaqdax2401]

Brou's curse helped the Buccs

[@johnkarpslis4349]

Would the real Musketeer please stand up

[@KonaTheDragon]

Marino finished 3rd in MVP only playing 9 games, he was by far the best rookie. Big Ben with the best season, 13-0 in the AFC Championship. *Marino went 14-2 with an MVP the next year, 48 TD’s, 16 more than anyone ever. Equivalent to Stroud throwing 70 next year 🙄

[@jamescurtis9218]

So funny was all about flacco last week

[@cbozz7063]

0nick reminds me of tom green lmao

[@Kevin.Costner.]

i’ve Seen enough Texans Vs Packers Superbowl Cinema🍿

[@mohammadmehdipakfetrat3142]

this year playoffs was outragous two top deffenses in league gave over 30+ to texans and packers that are avg offensive team

[@bigfacts1592]

Big Ben went to a team that was already good with great defense.

[@melvinguz11]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@GilesLaFave]

I love everybody fueling detroit's fire. Keep doubting and giving your backhanded compliments. Detroit vs the world.

[@KingCobraMadnezz]

That's my quarterback!!! GOOOOOOO TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😬😬

[@ThEmAnOnAmIsSiOn100]

Upload the Bills win video

[@richardwillett6051]

Texas has a new 'America's Team'!

[@brandonohara4122]

A poor man's Joel olsteen 😂

[@user-sn3ky2md4v]

Capernut went to a SUPERBOWL as a rookie I didn’t like him much .CJ s on a young team how do we know how good the other players are around him?He looks great we’ll see some of the deep pass’s he’s getting really good protection.

[@jsphblw]

No, he didn’t. He went 3-5 for 35 yards as a rookie & that was for the whole season. Check down Alex was the starter for Kaepernick’s rookie season & the first 9 games of his sophomore season.

[@williamcartwright373]

What? He went his second year. He played 3 games his first year.

[@AllThingsKen]

how does nick wright have a job

[@jessedelaney609]

No mention of Purdy. Granted, he has a blended Rookie year. But to not even bring him up???

[@mikehamm45]

Didn’t Dan Marino get to the Super Bowl his rookie year?

[@cm14un]

Stroud, Love, & Broussard, Wildes. Future so bright. 'Nuff said.

[@miamimercenary9623]

Coach is on drugs. Big Ben had 2600 yards, 17 tds, 11 picks and the best defense in the league. CJ just dropped 4100 yards, 23 tds, and 5 picks. They’re not even close

[@SpaceGhost92]

Dak had a fantastic rookie season and the advanced stats like epa say it’s still the best ever. If only he stayed on that trajectory

[@TonyDanza4Lyfe]

Why do people ignore baker when talking rookie years?

[@Khale0715]

I wouldn’t be mad at lions chiefs rematch. Would be the last 2 teams to host NFL draft too which is low key as big as getting nba all star game

[@joelchristopher1425]

Big ben went to the afc championship game a d lost to Brady and belicheck. Pretty good rookie season. Won super bowl in 2nd season.

[@JulieMayfield-tm9oi]

With a stacked team. With great players. CJ carries that offense.

[@jaybrown3935]

There have been plenty of rookie quarterbacks that have done just as good or better.

[@sampatel41]

Trevor Lawrence gotta deal with Stroud for 10+ years 💀

[@ravenfanbartscott]

Mangini has a pathological hatred for mobile QBs. It’s fascinating to watch, and demonstrates why he had such a horrendous record as a head coach.

[@richardmack9995]

Nick wrong

[@maximusgreed]

Broh, how those toes doing??😅

[@thomanderson7981]

Both CJ Stroud & Love's rookie season's end this wkend in B'more & San Fran. They're the future of the NFL. We've seen the future & it's alive & well for the NFL. Just not this season. Raven's & 9'ers meet again for the showdown in SB LVlll!🎉❤😊

[@brettsimmons1339]

How the he'll is the niners worried about dallas or the lions lol

[@SirPerfectful]

Nick has been a Lions hater ALL SEASON LONG. Time to rewatch the season opener video after Nick said the Chiefs would go 20-0 to win another SB.

[@ibuprofen_]

A bunch of monday night QB's dissing on the Lions, what else is new

[@dancorn3422]

It’s been since the 91’ season for Detroit ,Brou ! 32 years exactly !

[@jonathanspurgeon4371]

Coach: "not to take anything away from the lions but they're stupid and I hate them and they cheated their way in here"

[@aarontaylor8574]

Rams poor tackling to start the game and bad play calling were biggest factors in loss.

[@Alex_thegr81]

Devin Singletary was a 1K yard rusher this year wtf 🤨

[@Gotexans713]

He was not. He didn’t even start most of the season

[@Alex_thegr81]

@@Gotexans713 you right bruh I’m thinking of Nico Collins

[@GoTime999]

Laporta was playing in last week of season no matter what. Only one other healthy TE on the roster. The narrative needs to change.

[@ThatFalloutGod]

Stroud went into a woefully disfunct organization with a rookie HC and OC, essentially two rookie WRs, an essential no-name WR in Year 3, a good veteran in Woods, and a middling OL won the division (that isn't bad), boat raced a good/great Browns team (specifically their defense) in Round 1, and looks like they have a legitimate chance to beat the 1 Seed. To say Stroud had the best rookie season for a QB ever isn't really arguable, let alone controversial, when you have an IQ of at least the temperature of your fridge and understand how much context matters.

[@timmismith8978]

As a Lions fan I wish we still had Stafford!!!! he is much better than Goff. Goff makes me nervous. He's great when there is no pressure but, when there is pressure he looks average at best. If that run game gets stopped I am very afraid. Stafford can put the team on his back and go get it and has proven it, Goff can't do that. He only got pressured a few times vs the Rams and vanished. The Lions scored 3 points in the second half, a 54 yard field goal. And that backward 2 hand pass to a lineman when he was getting sacked. Luckily it wasn't a turnover . But that's what makes me nervous. Let's go vs the Bucks!!!

[@durdydurds301]

y'all either gotta lower these chairs or raise that desk. why am I seeing the bottom of your tie when you're sitting down

[@arashhejazi1602]

Cam newton?

[@newsflash7970]

ram's had the "best qb", the "best coach", yet they lost. why do we listen to these talking heads?

[@Bexly]

As usual. This clown proves why he’s not coaching. The circumstances that Ben was in vs Stroud at Houston is night and day.