C4 Itto Is A Monster

Today we're showcasing our new C4 Itto. Surprisingly, it was his C3 that was more impressive...
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[@soumikg6357]

To be clear: during Itto's burst only the defence stat snapshots, ie. Gorou. Any attack buffs like Bennett, Zhongli or tenacity/Noblesse will not snapshot.

[@rijulpraveensingh1650]

Fr?

[@callmerays684]

What does "snapshot" mean?

[@klarion7665]

@@callmerays684 basically every stat or buff that was pre elemental burst will stay until the elemental burst effect is over,but it only works on ittos own buffs not bennys buffs or gorous,on ittos case i think he only takes the def buffs

[@soumikg6357]

@@rijulpraveensingh1650 yes! The same works for Noelle too

[@rijulpraveensingh1650]

@@soumikg6357 aight thanks

[@dancollins6289]

His best team is actually with Albedo instead of Bennett. Itto already has like 4k atk from his burst and aditioanl 1k doesn't do that much. On the other hand Albedo can take full advntatage of Gorou's buff (especially if he is c6) and depending on your stats he can do from 30 to 40 k on average.

[@yantheclown69]

Wdym? Benny boi should be on every team even freeze ayaka/ganyu and yelan after all he’s SSSSSSSSSS tier 😍

[@randomperson8375]

Another option could be Albedo instead of Zhongli + Shinobu instead of Bennett. You could be getting constant crystallize shields, and I know crystallize isn't very good, but if the shield is constantly refreshing then it doesn't really matter I think. And then even if you do take damage Shinobu will just heal you right back up so it doesn't really matter. You would be sacrificing the res shred you get from Zhongli's shield though, so there's also that to consider, but I prefer using Zhongli on other teams so I think of it as being worth it.

[@chaengmygirl]

​@@yantheclown69 oh yes benny boy the best character aka the pyro archon you must use him everywhere😍😍😍😍

[@MurtazaGI]

One of his best is with both, itto / albedo / gorou /bennet

[@BlankSadge]

yea i agree with you but the thing with moga is he just rlly likes making everyone dps and using benny. he uses benny a lot even in “tazer” comps

[@jessicatH22]

Ngl that c4 buff sounds nice for albedo, who scales off both Def and atk

[@rerg6923]

generally you dont use his burst in a geo team since nobody uses EM and you dont build atk on him at all so his burst does nothing for the ER and Field Time it requires but the DEF buff is def awesome

[@kelloveclub]

@@rerg6923 unless you main albedo

[@msarna3477]

Why would you lie about that

[@darylewalker6862]

It helps everyone except Yelan (who uses HP).

[@ivanseryogin6526]

@@darylewalker6862 kokomi?

[@iprowafflez506]

See near the end there. The issue is that you were trying to think while playing itto. He is unga bunga man. No strategy, only bonk.

[@swimminginthestars_]

i love this comment sm sobs

[@ryuzex7270]

Exactly, all you need to do is spam his burst and attack buttons

[@VanxHelsing03]

that only works on c1 itto and not c0 itto, so I guess you are technically right because he is c4

[@doplop]

@@VanxHelsing03 as a c1 itto haver he was still unga bunga at c0 he just unga bungas faster now

[@VanxHelsing03]

@@doplop Well he looks unga bunga and he's a pretty dumb character and I assure everyone that maximizing his damage output at c0 is not easy at all. You have to have the right setup and the right combo. if we are not talking about maximizing damage then most character could be unga bunga, if the player is unga bunga themselves

[@marius5473]

For the whole itto gorou snapshoting problem, as far as I know that only occurs when using gorous E, then you would have to wait a few frames before using ittos burst

[@chasewyatt1607]

I heard that the Gorou snapshot issue occurs when you do the quick burst functionality such as holding alt + the number to rotate to Itto.

[@Echo-qk7vc]

so switch to itto NA once then burst

[@ChazzzyF]

The thing about Kuki Shinobu's burst is that it seems like it's for mass electro application. You don't wanna do it when nothing else is going on, you wanna do it when you have something like an Ayato burst or Xiangling burst or something like that so that those things trigger reactions in her electro area.

[@chorki4801]

electro amber burst

[@RogerNbr]

It's more like for shield breaking tbh since eletro is decent at draining every shield (except the new eletro ones ofc)

[@leonp.2171]

Oh wow those electro reactions are gonna be so useful

[@chorki4801]

@@leonp.2171 Pray for dendro i guess lmao

[@audreylepinay4909]

Every time you said "that's unfortunate" you roll for C6 itto! Love your vids !

[@Dandylion567]

"That's how the cookie crumbles" is another thing he says a lot, especially when summoning. It would be funny if he says it about his poor luck summoning, only to have to summon again because of it.

[@Ayush_Saha184]

Respect for moga for trying to dodge masanori attacks when he's using zhongli 💀

[@sir9544]

Help I dodge having zhongli with 55k hp

[@HonaTuyu]

Instincts 😰

[@dankmemes7729]

@@sir9544 its the gamer genes

[@PaulinaGnecco]

I still try to avoid taking as much damage as possible even with Zhongli's shield lol

[@amnos180188]

Lol i dodged too even when shielded. For practice XD

[@swap3813]

If you want to use both: itto, gorou, albedo, kuki. Great team. Kuki apply electro fast so you’ll always have a shield. Since you’re using redhorn Benny isn’t really doing THAT much for you anyway.

[@fareezsulaiman1632]

so you're saying kuki is better than benny?you're delusional

[@jamiejam9976]

@@fareezsulaiman1632 ive got bad news: Bennett doesn't apply pyro that fast, and for crystalize, Shinobu is better

[@dogepi8813]

lol he's saying that kuki can apply electro to enemies consistently so that the team could get crystallize shields also about benny itto already got so much atk that it have diminishing returns so benny isn't that good but kuki can act as a healer and also a crsystallize bot and probably most people dont have c6 zhongli so a mono geo team with kuki would be quite decent

[@fareezsulaiman1632]

@@dogepi8813 he have a freaking zhongli ......so why did he ever need crystalize lol

[@fareezsulaiman1632]

@@jamiejam9976 well i've got good news....he have a god of fking contract.....so you're telling me crystalize is better than a shield?

[@BMGAmicus]

Hey moga! I was the comment you were refering to on your last video! For the Itto snapshotting issue: going "too fast" refers to using the "alt" key while switching to a character (which causes them to automatically use thier burst upon taking the field) doing this means that Itto gets 0 frames to take Gouro's buff. As long as you don't use the alt key when switching to Itto, he should be able to snapshot just fine

[@daitiri]

C'mon Moga! Let's Go C6 and the true power of BONK

[@hidekazu8895]

the endless bonk

[@mohdx77]

"Oh no! Not my Kuki shinobo" 😂😂😂

[@ΘεμελίναΠαυλοπούλου]

I recently got him (c0) and for me, a player who just ascended to ar45 and tries lvl90 domains, he is my ultimate saviour. Without Gorou and with husk 4piece (4* set) he does 30k with his E in burst mode and his crits hit 30k-40k. I am actually amazed and having Gorou makes it even better

[@bhavya5692]

Mine is c0 too with 40 cr and still does 200k in geo team per rotation

[@Scarlescent]

The fact that an outlawed gang member of Inazuma > The centuries old Geo Archon of Liyue (in terms of DPS)

[@mastork5453]

*W*

[@morb3289]

Funeral Parlor director > geo archon of liyue (dps wise) Change my mind

[@Richinnameonly]

Why would anyone have to change your mind. Itto has 0 seconds of petrification and no defense shred and no overpowering shield. If zhongli could do comparable damage noone would even want itto. These discussions are pointless.

[@Joy-bz5hy]

i mean zhongli kit isn't meant for dps ofc itto gonna be better in terms of being a dps

[@lokrj]

Wow what a comparison, such a genius. You blew my mind 🤯

[@feixou]

i accidentally got c1 itto while pulling for kuki, happy to have him as my first c1 5* (ngl since i got him on his last banner i was 100% expecting a mona or something lol)

[@023Whiplash]

Oke? You want a sticker?

[@rand0mhuman303]

Congrats! I wish you luck in building him

[@Richinnameonly]

Omg a friend of mine went overboard and up to c5. I hope for his sake he gets that 6 without breaking himself financially because we all know he isn't actually going to stop at c5.

[@random_84]

@@023Whiplash you sound like a f2p

[@bkdktruther]

@@023Whiplash it’s okay u can say ur jealous 💀

[@mythesque7714]

so it looks like you mostly figured it out at the end there, itto does indeed "snapshot" his def to atk conversion on burst cast (so if you're fast enough, he should benefit from his c4 def boost the whole duration of his second burst) the potential problem of not snapshotting gorou's buff comes if you use the alt key to quick cast itto's burst (i'm not a pc player myself but i know you can alt-swap to characters to immediately cast their burst- mobile equivalent is just tapping their burst icon in the sidebar- and if you do that then i believe that's where you run the risk of not snapshotting gorou's buff) also sidenote but i would really really recommend using albedo in your itto team! itto-albedo-gorou is the best triple geo core because albedo is also benefiting from gorou's buffs and doing a very significant amount of damage, zhongli isn't actually a great pick for itto teams, unless you value the comfort which is fair, but dmg wise he is definitely not the optimal choice, and if you do use him, then i'd recommend just going full on 4 geo at that point because albedo is just really good in itto teams

[@Baskat682]

Zhongli is actually a good pick as well because he is one of the few ways you can shred geo res Another reason why Zhongli is good for a full geo team is because itto has negative resistance in burst mode so enemies can kill him really quickly because of it

[@dimyog]

What that comment was referring about itto snapshotting is about using the shorcut to immediately switch and ult (i dont know the keyboard presses needed for this but there is a shortcut) not switching and pressing q separately. So you should be fine even when pressing q immediately after switching

[@blazikenfury8852]

Pretty sure it's Alt + (Character number)

[@acturusgarcia6027]

Pretty sure you need to stay a few frames for Itto to capture Gorou def bonus. You can't immediately use Itto burst switch. You need to switch to Itto then burst.

[@illusionofquality979]

Moga tested it at 13:25. It seems like Gorou's burst doesn't have to tick like Bennett's. Once you activate his burst, he gives the def bonus to anyone in his field as soon as they enter it. Or the timing for a single player to switch between characters and use bursts is long enough for the def up to apply.

[@Hopper_Arts]

I think another good use for Kuki is with Eula, you know, to easily proc superconduct and heal her in the mean time, specially if you don't have Raiden

[@leofranklinn22]

Itto is such a good character, sad I'm saving for kazuha

[@Lina-wd9rj]

Omg same

[@javier_m7495]

He in fact is a monster

[@Dubbyyyyyyyyyyy]

I got Itto on my first 10 pull I hope Itto wanters will be Itto havers😊

[@feixou]

congrats!! hope you get more luck like this in the future

[@fareezsulaiman1632]

nice

[@beaneater6932]

i have become water

[@Dubbyyyyyyyyyyy]

@@feixou thank u, I hope u do too! This is the second time i've got this lucky on Genshin lol

[@nagualnazgul3101]

Itto waters are muddy waters

[@zenliv7221]

6:16 The transition of the bursts looks so cool sia from shinobu to yelans burst quite cool ahahha

[@selenatang314]

I will continue to standby the fact that I kuki may have been released purely for utility. Jack of all trades does mean she's spread thin but I think she could be a really grade unit for some teams because of: - reaction enabling - healing - supportive ability with tenacity and favonius sword I think kuki is pretty great for some teams. Definitely not like bennett or xingqiu but she has her uses that makes her very useful and maybe people should come to realize some characters enabling the rest of the team to do better is more valuable than themselves doing damage. This isn't meant to be a hate comment o-o I just think she's really not as bad as some think, a bit niche but not completely

[@ellana_de]

I like reading comments from months ago. And guess where is kuki in the meta rn

[@Shokukun]

So I got c1 Itto on my alt account. This is the first time I got a character banner 5* a constellation

[@muslihhm7534]

I think its time for moga to have his first c6 limited character 🤣 right mogs?

[@angoooioioi]

I was thinking that the title should be "C4 Itto is ur dad"

[@floricel_112]

I think you would benefit more if the rotation was Ayato ult, Xiangling ult and Guoba, Kuki e, Yelan ult then Ayato e and auto attack constantly

[@RogerNbr]

Itto can not snapshot gorou if you alt swap directly into his burst, but also the lower your ping the less this happens

[@hezzr3]

Ye you get Gorou's buff if you swap then burst, but if you ALT-swap (which swaps and immediately casts burst) then that is swapping too fast to get Gorou's buff on Itto. Idk why this is bc I don't know any other buff that does this, just Gorou lol. Noelle is also affected

[@rhysespieces.]

the issue with snapshotting itto def with gorou comes from doing the burst swap (holding down left alt, and pressing the corresponding number key). since burst swap makes the character burst come out on the first possible frame, it’ll activate before gorous buff has a chance to apply

[@FWU100]

itto snapshots defense buffs like weapon stacks like Whiteblind, artifacts stacks like Husk and Gorou's E and Q, the thing about his damage going down after Gorou's E or Q expiring is because Gorou gives 3 buffs to Itto which only defense snapshots, GEO CRIT DMG and GEO DMG BONUS won't snapshot

[@My6119]

You might as well make him C6, unless you're saving that for Hu Tao.

[@Dandylion567]

I think he said that he was finished with Hu Tao, although that might have changed since he uses her with Crimson now, but at least on her last banner, he said that he wasn't planning on going past C3. If anything, he might be planning to go for a C2 Kazuha for the EM boost.

[@My6119]

@@Dandylion567 dang I might too

[@royaleeleanor6886]

Moga: i dont have a fav kit/ playstyle Also him: have hu tao itto and shogun as fav dps (Hu tao's E raiden's Q and itto's Q are kinda similar)

[@Ms.Simp12]

Would you go for C6? Just curious

[@xoi69]

Hell probably break the game

[@김태규-r8d]

My itto is c6 and i got too stronf that it made me the game boring fr

[@AsterTopaz]

About Itto's snapshotting behavior, swapping to him normally (pressing 4 in this case) before bursting is all he needs to use Gorou's buff; if you use the Burst-swap feature (Alt+Character Slot on keyboard), then Itto bursts *before* obtaining Gorou's buff.

[@Dmeli0]

Go for the C6 since you are pretty close to it infinite charge atk is really fun

[@gilang26060]

Wait untill you have him c6 he gotta swing all the enemies to the abyss

[@annavc1286]

tbh i got those numbers at c0 in the abyss (226k a couple days before) so itto is absolutely insane with or without cons. and i dont remember clearly but i think it was without gorou (he's lvl 70 with some 0 lvl artefacts anyways). the game changer is itto's signature weapon which i was lucky to get wery early. so get it if you have the opportunity to. redhorn goes well on literally any claymore dps.

[@Ray-kb9ly]

6:12 WHEN U LOST THE BIG DUDE LMAO

[@euqisnow1047]

Imagine having two rotations of noelle and itto...after finishing c4 Itto's burst you use Noelle burst with the def and atk bonus

[@jiaweiye9489]

Btw here’s a tip Bennett burst before gorou is better since while itto snapshots both the defence and attack he does not snapshot the geo dmg bonus and crit dmg(if you have c6).

[@thegamewoods8473]

Who would win in a DPS fight. A massive meteor sent from the heavens by the God of Earth himself? Or One porky boi.

[@anatrociousnormie2117]

Love the vids!!

[@mastork5453]

MY BOY ITTO

[@mudzible]

itto my beloved.

[@1Henrink]

So the change and burst as fast as possible is about holding alt and clicking the characters number. That auto-bursts, and if you do that with Itto, he bursts too fast to get Gorous buff :D

[@mikewilliams3310]

Itto only snapshots the defense converted to attack so the moment u use his burst his defense at that moment is converted to attack so adding more defense after that does nothing like getting more whiteblind stacks. The way u miss gorou buffs is that if u use gorou burst then immediately use itto burst then it won’t have time to apply the flat defense buff before itto uses burst and as I said earlier any new defense after itto burst is applied doesn’t work. It’s kinda like how xiangling can miss snapshot Bennett burst buff if u use it too quick after swapping. The only thing I’m unsure of is if it’s only considered to quick using itto burst by using alt+1 or if it can still be to fast by manually swapping and immediately using burst.

[@kocml3xv]

im pretty sure the commenter was talking about how if you were to do that burst shortcut (alt to party member) then itto wouldnt fully get all of the def bonus that gorou offers

[@blulaguna18]

omgg 4:05 Those churls got their shields and themselves deleted in one E. EPIC haha

[@turmoilll]

Itto's burst snapshots ONLY def when converting it into attack(this conversation activates only once and can't be changed)and nothing else. Also there are some multipliers in his skill set which work from def, not from the snapshoted for the burst duration attack. So the damage falls down because this parts of damage formula lose their buffs. And I don't know about the snapshot time of Itto's burst. Maybe if you use alt+number Itto won't catch Gorou's def buff, but idk about his passive talent cause I believe it buffs through summons, but maybe this kind of summon is an exception. Actually I don't have Itto so I might be wrong with smth.

[@ahmedaljasim2288]

Try using triple hydro (Ayatol, Xingqiu, Yelan )with Kuki or any other support

[@MrFox-ss7to]

The snapshot miss of the defense only occurs when you quick burst (alt+switch)

[@oksuresure]

*cough* *cough* go for c6 *cough* cough*

[@veto8611]

Finally a video where moga does not stuggle intensity in abyss

[@Insig385]

congrats moga lololololol it somehow cracks me up that something always trips you up about itto and gorou, i remember your god mode gorou you were testing with itto's basic atks instead of charged in his burst and getting so confused why itto wasnt doing as much dmg lolololol but yeah strictly speaking itto doesnt "snapshot" like real snapshot, but the def conversion, since its a conversion at time of his burst, the def part acts like a snapshot. but at least now i know i dont need to wait after switching to itto to burst tho - it was a little confusing how long i was supposed to wait cuz ppl said to not burst immediately but i guess the problem is only with the 1-button-swap-burst thing that is mostly used on mobile (or pc but i have no idea where that setting is n clearly never turned it on) i got my itto (along with c5 gorou! c0 gorou is great buffer for itto too, just c6 gorou is best! sadly with 4*s not guaranteed i need to save rest of my primos so ill just wait for a future albedo banner or something), so happyyyyyyyyyyy

[@Sing-Jin-Woo]

I wanna get c4 Itto but I'm broke on freemogems

[@rickysicat2206]

Just go for c6~ it won't hurt

[@peagames2002]

Makes wallet slimmer at least.

[@tarablade1562]

Fun fact : if you use albedo in the itto team too ( get john lee out) he might do more dmg bc i heard he is gonna do more dmg

[@momodash3077]

You can try Shinobu with Eula ! Didn’t see anyone doing it yet and I’m curious

[@gregojogos1601]

6:15 nice transition tho

[@TheBADProductions]

as long as you don't use alt-1/2/3/4 the snapshotting thing is not an issue

[@cloudmuffin2000]

13:29 if you hold alt (im 90% sure it is alt) and then switch character you insta burst

[@sistersofthelich4463]

I pulled and I am here, will satisfy my need for Itto one way or another

[@pokemankirito]

2:20 lmao mans has soo much characters he cant find shinobu

[@Lurco8]

0:48 I think Hu Tao benefits a lot from death...

[@andresobando4492]

Yanfei+Kuki is an ok team. I only use it because Yanfei is my favorite character!

[@simonazzz]

If you do Alt + Number, it goes into ULT right away and if u do this with Itto right after Gorou's ULT, he does not get the buff.

[@gamingbynaruto3907]

if u already have c4 u can try c6 itto

[@vikryarsana5081]

I think Kuki is pretty good on Ayato taser team, since Ayato is like always hugging the enemies anyway and always on risk taking dmg while doing his thing. Yelan in that team is a little bit overkill imo when you tried to do a little Kuki showcase, probably switching to Sucrose for more EM transfer and let her shines a bit? *Disclaimer:* I know Kuki's kit kinda jumping all around the place. I do have Kuki myself but not on right account, so I assume she's most likely to shine on Ayato Taser team. I like to try that in my other account when I got her.

[@pookiebearhabibi]

Evil : your only 2 cons far thats not alot money

[@tomatozombie135]

usually you should start ayatos rotations with his burst first because it takes so long and lasts so long that its better not to waste the support's off field damage time

[@rusby7075]

They're talking about if u use ult + character then u swap and immediately do ult then it doesnt get gorou def. Boost but for bennet boost he gets it anyway because he doesn't snapshot it

[@turmoilll]

Almost the only way c4 is really can be useful for Itto itself is when you activate Itto's burst during the buff duration and he snapshots that def into atk conversation. Otherwise it works at best for 3-4 seconds.

[@aishi_ishasha]

It sounds like itto c4 is made for albedo aka full geo team when everyone can take advantage of def&atk boost from itto But since my itto is only c0, sometimes i put albedo in another team for EM boost.

[@megabytetsp1]

"I dont know if Gorou is worth using until C6" if you don't have Redhorn C0 Gorou help quite a bit actually!

[@BlankSaorii]

It took me 10 minutes in the video to realize he was saying bull not bowl 😭

[@SpoopyAce]

10:20 The "not snapshotting gorou's buff" thing is in relation to using genshin's built in instant-swap-burst feature. If you hold alt while swapping to a character, you will use their burst on the frame they come out. However, this means itto will burst before gorou's buff applies, thus having a smaller atk buff than if you swap by *not* holding alt, then manually activating his burst. Additionally; his burst only snapshots the atk buff you get from his defense stat at burst activation. Everything else remains the same. EDIT: yea you show what im talking about later anyway lmao also that said, itto getting or missing out on the bonuses on my end seems inconsistent at best now, though im confident at least when he came out that it was consistent that he'd miss it with alt switching... im not sure what even is the case anymore lmao... maybe they fixed it?

[@moonless3031]

I think itto is gonna be your first c6 unit

[@kiroto2668]

So Nobody gonna talk about that perfect climb🤣🤣

[@prakash2814]

I like itto. But when it comes to kooki and gorou, i need spectre materials to raise them. There is no way, I am investing in those two. Ascending catch weapon was nightmare. Do not wanna experience it again. No thanks to gorou and kooki

[@ghostsuru8429]

Don't forget you can buy some the specter stuff in the shop. XD But agreed, specters suck. The only characters who deals with them reliably (imo) is Fischl and Yoimiya.

[@fareezsulaiman1632]

@@ghostsuru8429 yes i used both yoimiya and albedo to deal with spector.......

[@chick3096]

should go for that c5/c6, you are so close !!

[@pumpalin8661]

Pretty sure itto’s burst just snapshots def cuz that’s what it scales off (just watched the end of the vid I’m dum)

[@SolSaR0903]

wft 113k at 5:90 without itto burst

[@dr.horrificlee7018]

I don’t understand any of this but that damage is awesome

[@Matchibyfio]

Itto actually snapshots only the Def, even the C6 of gorou, only buff his dmg for a little time, that's why he doesn't snapshot all the buff

[@Axterix13]

Kuki's burst is a lot like Amber's. Use it if you want to tear down a shield vulnerable to its element or if you have something that needs a certain number of hits to proc and has a very short cooldown between those hits. And for the rest, don't bother.

[@bonsaix]

might as well go for the C6 at this point. it's so busted

[@radouanemegherbi3499]

58k with normal attack, "that is not bad"

[@amigode8169]

When ittos bull does more damage than aloy burst-

[@traquine]

holy shit thats some big bull dmg 235k

[@seminormaltheartist917]

Party idea for Kuki; Eula, Kuki, Rosaria, Kazuha/venti/Albedo

[@kamiisi21]

244393 damage at 5:34!!! Good job !

[@jessecharp]

his ult snapshot defense only

[@silenced.-]

C6 BENNET???? U.DID.NOT.

[@demasapps]

His burst snapshot his defense stat, but the atk he get for tenacity and bennet doesnt snapshot

[@ky-wonderhoy]

Ehm- *was that a c6 Bennett?*

[@captnbluehat]

"Snapshot the buffs" itto doesnt snapshot at all 😐

[@S0L-AR1S]

Does he snapshot or not? I've been hearing a lot of reviews and guides going back and forth

[@pizzaapplepie1338]

Pretty sure he snapshots def buffs

[@Richinnameonly]

@@S0L-AR1S it's covered in the video.

[@toab77]

Why don't you watch the video until the end where you'll see Moga explaining how Itto indeed does snapshot his def to atk% bonus when going into burst mode.

[@FadjarDarwin]

He snapshots gorou def buff. He took around 1sec(1NA) to get the buff after switching to itto before turn into his burst mode

[@Bobo-vi2ts]

try ayato with yunjin and jean if she is C2 and benett

[@Not_Ar_Thur]

But one problem with that team is there's no consistent reaction and reaction is really important in this game

[@fafka1445]

there is that thing called quick swapping