C6 Corvette LS2 vs LS3 (Both are Great, Which is Best for YOU?)

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@Jonathan_Knight
@Jonathan_Knight 20 күн бұрын
I'm looking to buy my FIRST Corvette, and I'm learning so much. Thank you.
@kennymilton7457
@kennymilton7457 4 ай бұрын
My GTO had an LS2 that was full bolt on and I DROOOVE that car. Had zero issues at all
@speedysbarbershop
@speedysbarbershop Ай бұрын
Same here I had an 2005 and I put 150 shot nitrous through it races that car hard and no problems whatsoever.
@warmongerism
@warmongerism 3 ай бұрын
People hate on the LS2 because it's not the LS1 or LS3. Give GM some credit. It doesn't matter which LS engine you buy, they are all super capable. If you save 5-10K getting an LS2 instead of an LS3, port the heads and put on long tube exhaust. You come out ahead because you stil make 400whp but you have an extra 3k in your pocket. Or at least, I think that's the vibe of the video.
@rle1020
@rle1020 5 ай бұрын
I went with a ls3 cause I can’t keep anything stock. For someone who wants a stock, narrow body c6 than a ls2 is the best bang for the buck. But for someone who wants a wide body, dry sump, and has modifications in mind than a ls3 is a better platform.
@cali2468
@cali2468 4 ай бұрын
LS3 is the better bang for the buck period. Rather one plans to keep it stock or modify. LS3 is way faster either way.
@cali2468
@cali2468 4 ай бұрын
To add there is maybe a couple thousand dollars difference between a similarly optioned 2007 (LS2) and 2008 (LS3) so I’m not sure how you figured the LS2 is a better bang for the buck. 🤔
@steevenbrunner3261
@steevenbrunner3261 4 ай бұрын
@@cali2468 Depends on the price difference, here in France LS2 starts about 28k while LS3 starts about 40k, not saying than LS7 are about 50k, to me LS3 is quite a no go, if the only goal is boosting why not but all other options are better otherwise.
@cali2468
@cali2468 4 ай бұрын
@@steevenbrunner3261 Honestly if you are going FI (boost) then the LS2 will suffice because with boost you can make good power easily regardless of which platform you choose. However, an N/A build is where the LS3 is going to have a pretty substantial advantage. $40k for a used base C6 is crazy tho. I know here in the states the price difference is nowhere near that.
@steevenbrunner3261
@steevenbrunner3261 4 ай бұрын
@@cali2468 And I''m talking in €, you can add up to 110% to get a USD price...
@earlwheeler5323
@earlwheeler5323 Ай бұрын
I have an 2007 LS2 Vette, added a cam and tune and exhaust, I’m running with C7’s so it’s a great platform to build on.
@dantheman3439
@dantheman3439 18 күн бұрын
Parts and labor? $?
@nashrambler5246
@nashrambler5246 4 ай бұрын
I'll stick with the LS1 in my 2001 C5. 😎 It's got enough guts for me. Great video!!! 👍🏻
@invertedpolarity6890
@invertedpolarity6890 5 ай бұрын
LS2 is a great engine; it's an LS after all. But the LS3 is better than the LS2 in nearly every way. Better heads, better intake manifold, better block strength, better rod bolts, higher displacement, better pistons.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. However, what percentage of the current c6 owners actually take advantage of everything LS3 has over the LS2? If I offered you a hundred grand or your life, if you could do a back to back blind test and tell by the state of your pants which car you're in, would you take the offer 🤔 point is, LS3 is great, but it's not like the LS2 is 75 horsepower four-cylinder slouch.
@gaddyify
@gaddyify 4 ай бұрын
Got a modified LS3, the scariest car I've ever owned.🔥
@TheMGChannel
@TheMGChannel 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for always making great content. I’ve never owned a corvette but one day I’ll own one for sure, probably a C6, I’ve a driven C7 and a couple C8s but my heart still lust after the C6 generation.
@Maxreverse
@Maxreverse 3 ай бұрын
Timely video. I am in the market for a C6. Was leaning towards the LS3 but will now consider the LS2
@강정찬-t2n
@강정찬-t2n 2 ай бұрын
Did you end up buying the ls2?
@Maxreverse
@Maxreverse 2 ай бұрын
Ended up with an LS3 Grand Sport.
@강정찬-t2n
@강정찬-t2n 2 ай бұрын
@@Maxreverse 👍 good job bud. I am in the market for a c6 as well. I know the ls3 is superior to the ls2 in nearly every aspect but I know I am not going to mod or anything like that. I just want to enjoy its looks and power. Should I go for the ls2 or 3?
@philipblackaller5858
@philipblackaller5858 Күн бұрын
@@Maxreversecongratulations 🎉👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@vitodesimone8120
@vitodesimone8120 2 ай бұрын
This is fantastic information for me that now I understand that a C-6 Corvette can have an LS-2 or an LS 3 engine.Now I know what to look for.Thank you for a great video.
@ryansellers2581
@ryansellers2581 5 ай бұрын
C&S Corvettes has a good video on the reliability differences between the two motors. Clean LS3 cars are hard to come by on the west coast. 200 mile range does nothing for your search results. You practically have to look as far as Texas. I had a 2005 LS2 car and after looking decided that getting into a C6 grandsport with the LS3 was a bad value so I ended up buying a 2014 Z51 Stingray. Interest rates are definitely a factor for the older cars!
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Looks like I need to pick up a few here in the mid-west and sell them in CA. I have seen that CS video, but in it he talks about the internally balanced LS2 losing its balance somehow - without any specifics. I (and quite a few other people) have a little heartburn with how that would be possible and I don't know of anyone else that has seen that happen. All LS motors have vibration dampener issues - but even those are neutrally balanced.... Not saying he's wrong, just saying nobody else seems to be seeing that issue.
@shane4954
@shane4954 4 ай бұрын
Im in Cali had to buy my LS3 Z51 from a dealer in AZ. I was looking for at least 2 months. Less then 48k miles on it
@Sandiegosuperchargers
@Sandiegosuperchargers 2 ай бұрын
What is subjective conversation. If you’re a car guy, it shouldn’t matter which engine you have. I have an LS2 with a Vortech V2, centrifugal supercharger, and nothing else but a six speed manual. Who wants some?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 2 ай бұрын
That is awesome! Who did the tuning?
@lucasamorimporto3300
@lucasamorimporto3300 Ай бұрын
Then u have a beast under the hood Congrats Thinking about getting the c6 to put supercharge as well
@austinfrazier7325
@austinfrazier7325 5 ай бұрын
I’ve had both. I had 07 Z51 6spd manual and an 08 non-Z51 auto which means the weak 2.59 rear gear. The 07 had a Callaway Honker and Billy Boat bullet exhaust. I don’t know if it had a tune but I suspect it did. I bought it back in 09 at a dealership so couldn’t ask the previous owner. The 07 was a beast and much more fun to drive. The auto neutered the 08. Between the 2.59 gears and stock programming to upshift to OD even at low speeds it wasn’t really a fun car honestly. The paddles were slow. The only place it was fun was on the interstate from a roll if you went WOT and after it kicked down it was an absolute missile. I didn’t keep that car long. I compared it back then to flying a fighter vs a fast high speed bomber. Completely different experiences. I could absolutely tell the difference handling too btw Z51 vs non Z51 on the street.
@bradwilliams4921
@bradwilliams4921 8 күн бұрын
Great video. I would be happy with a stock C6. My expectation is that cars improve year over year so with that in mind I would go for an LS3 C6 if possible. Right now both are way beyond my budget.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 7 күн бұрын
The C5 is a better bang for the buck - worth considering (:-)
@brucesmith5426
@brucesmith5426 3 ай бұрын
In the western PA area I just bought a 2008 coupe automatic with the exhaust option, but not much else added; 49,500 miles, new rubber, new front shocks with new servicing. Would've rather have a manual, but it is what it is. Price: $21,500.
@7000U9ZHIFT
@7000U9ZHIFT 5 ай бұрын
Have the ls3 in the 5th gen camaro... that engine is an animal
@LucullusLukull-i8l
@LucullusLukull-i8l 3 ай бұрын
I have an LS2 with the Lingenfelter 500 hp package. I love it and I will drive it for the next 30 years. The manual transmission is definitely not the best... but 366 engine, rear-wheel drive and a stick... that's something you almost can't get in today's car market. I' cornering the car hard while I'm driving it over the Swiss Alpine roads where I live. And I never missed a dry sump like in a grand sport. So if you can live with the manual transmission of an LS2, go for it. You won't regret it.
@chevydriverjmg
@chevydriverjmg 5 ай бұрын
I've heard that the LS2 is underrated by GM because they didn't want the new LS2 in 2005 (400hp) to have more power than the outgoing C5 Z06 (405hp) on paper. I would love to see someone actually dyno a stock LS2 and LS3 on the same dyno.
@7000U9ZHIFT
@7000U9ZHIFT 5 ай бұрын
Ls3 makes about a solid 30 -35 more hp and tq in stock trim... seen both on an engine dyno
@gloriamaletta8667
@gloriamaletta8667 5 ай бұрын
​@7000U9ZHIFT that's because the LS3 has a better set of heads and a better intake manifold with a ever so slight bigger bore the heads and intake on the LS3 alone are a 30 horsepower increase if swapped to a LS2 down point is torque will be down a bit idle - 3500rpm with LS3 heads and intake manifold are superior 4500rpm to redline vs LS2 heads and intake manifold
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
The LSXr 102 manifold on the LS2 is worth close to 20 HP. It's well known that the stock LS2 intake manifold does in fact leave a lot to be desired. LS3 intake manifold flows very well.
@7000U9ZHIFT
@7000U9ZHIFT 5 ай бұрын
@Toys4Life the FAST intake on the ls3 makes more power over the stock ls3 intake it's just not worth it for 1200$.... it helps the ls2 setup more than the ls3 ... both great engines.... I loveeee me the LS1 2 and 3 .... so much power potential in a simple setup
@chevydriverjmg
@chevydriverjmg 5 ай бұрын
I'd still like to prove the theory if GM underrated the LS2 numbers. It would make for an interesting video. I have no doubt that the LS3 makes more power, but I'd be curious to know if GM did stick with 400hp for the LS2 on paper for sales reasons. I've also heard that the cathedral ports on the LS2 are better for low-end grunt. I'd like to know if the LS3 only pulls away on the dyno at higher RPM'S.
@richarddobreny6664
@richarddobreny6664 3 ай бұрын
Wasn’t just a motor thing, in 2008, they went over the whole car and improved many things, notably the steering. And the NPP exhaust as well. A few other items I will have to go back and research. Transmission and rear ratio also improved. All those items combined made the 2008 and newer, more valuable
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, many aspects of the newer C6s are improved. It depends on your wants, needs & budget if it's worth the premium.
@johnmohanmusic
@johnmohanmusic Ай бұрын
I'll gladly give up 2-1/2 mph in the quarter mile in return for having a Corvette that is Lemans Blue. Besides, if I still want those 2-1/2 mph, it's just a matter of some relatively inexpensive mods that would still land me ahead moneywise of an LS3.
@DirtDude117
@DirtDude117 5 ай бұрын
LS2 with the same SAE Horsepower rating at the time of the LS3 would make 412HP The LS3 does flow much better out of the box with the intake manifold and head porting than an LS2 so once cammed or boosted it would make more of a difference. The 08-13 Corvettes got the TR6060 which is stronger and a beefier splined diff as well. The 09+ C6s all got Variable Steering and the LS9 block (also used in LSA) which made those engines have different bearings and more main bolts. This was to save on cost for only one production block (similar to LS1-LS6 did in 2001). The LS2 however does have higher compression out the gate. With a Cam, Heads, intake+manifold, and headers all that cost less than a LS3's parts it will make similar horsepower. The OE tune however pulls timing very severely to be safe. Even stock cars with a throttle body and tune see a increase in power on a dyno and the street.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Good stuff, appreciate the comment!
@cali2468
@cali2468 4 ай бұрын
A bone-stock 6-speed manual LS2 makes on average in the 340 wheel horsepower range so with the typical 15% drivetrain loss that puts an LS2 exactly what GM rated it at (400HP). LS3’s dyno in the 385rwhp range. The LS9 uses a different grade of aluminum compared to the LSA so they are not the same. An LS3 with similar mods will WIPE THE FLOOR with an LS2. Cathedral port stuff is not as good as square port. There’s a reason why many 6.0 LQ9 and LS2 guys convert to an LS3 top end. It makes more power peak and under the curve. A lot of misinformation about LS platform being spread around these days.
@markmartin7384
@markmartin7384 4 ай бұрын
All 2008+ C6s had the Tr6060???
@cali2468
@cali2468 4 ай бұрын
@@markmartin7384 yes
@hbgriss
@hbgriss 4 ай бұрын
Love to see the Fiero in the drive way . Right on! 👍🏻
@Mohammed-m7t2u
@Mohammed-m7t2u 8 күн бұрын
i had both. i like the ls2 because it has more torque at low rpm, it spins the tires way more than ls3. although ls3 has more power at high rpm. ls3 seems weak when i go uphill to my home every day, the ls2 i don’t even press the gas paddle going uphill in 2nd it goes like nothing
@V29546
@V29546 5 ай бұрын
Outstanding Video! I had a C7 Grand Sport that I needed to sell since I was getting stationed in Guam for 3 years tour of duty. Navy here. Shipping it seemed like a horrible idea, storage was no good options for that long so I had no choice but to sell. Upon coming back this March 2024 I wanted to get back into a corvette right away. Since we just started a family and my wife is not working I opted for a 2013 C6 Grand Sport as a good compromise and I absolutely love it!!! At the price point it is a outstanding car. Still some modern tech and plenty fast for some parodical spirited driving and has wide body stance. Love the traditional circle tail lights that my C7 didn't have and most of all it is very affordable which is also important for ownership experience. Last thing I like a lot.... not active fuel management. Pure V8 uninterrupted goodness all the time.
@EJleon96
@EJleon96 5 ай бұрын
It is a good compromise and would most likely be my second choice behind the C7 GS. Buy a manual and keep it out of eco mode and you won’t have to worry about ever switching over to 4 cylinders. The updated taillights were a welcome change. Just like pop up headlights and now the front engine layout, change is constant every generation
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Thank you and I appreciate your service to our country! Glad you are enjoying the C6 GS - beautiful car!
@polloi84
@polloi84 5 ай бұрын
love your C6 content. Keep it rolling!
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@vanceforrest4085
@vanceforrest4085 2 ай бұрын
2005 ls2 m6 3lt z51 in 2014 w/28k for $28k. It was immaculate one owner and modified it for my one and only go fast car. Put another $19k in it, Edelbrock SC, AR headers, MGW shifter, catch can, 165 stat, ATI balancer, Borla type II, 1to3 jumper, ZR1 wheels, Bridgestone non run flats. Dyno baseline 350 rwhp. Tuned 492rwhp 495 trq means 567hp at the crank. Instant torque with this PD blower is scary good at 3 lbs boost! Great cruiser too, two sets of golf clubs and 32.4 mpg at 80 mph road trip. Now 70k flawless miles, so this spring replaced the 19 year old fuel pump that was working fine but that’s what I do.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 2 ай бұрын
Another reliability testimonial - Thank you and continue to enjoy!!
@uwebrennig9325
@uwebrennig9325 2 ай бұрын
Hello ……i am from Germany and follow your Channel……..i own an C5 and and an Camaro with LS3 engine……..and that engine is amazing fast……….and very reliable…….its 280kmh fast on Autobahn ………
@danziger69
@danziger69 4 ай бұрын
If you are leaving it stockish, the LS2 is totally fine and will save you a bunch of money up front. If you are going heavy mods, especially blower, the LS3 is the way to go.
@cali2468
@cali2468 4 ай бұрын
It all depends on what you want. If you want a base C6 that’s way faster stock for stock for not much more in price the LS3 is a no brainer. Even simple bolt ons on an LS give very good gains.
@johnleca
@johnleca 4 ай бұрын
I wish you would do a video like you did with the C5 corvettes and pointed out differences and potential problems like the brake module and the gas tank sensor in the tank or outside.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
I'm working on a comprehensive one for some point down the road. Got to make sure I cover all of the aspects in that takes some additional research. Thanks for your comment!!!
@johnleca
@johnleca 3 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life I see how thorough you are and it is appreciated. Thanks!
@robertr4715
@robertr4715 Ай бұрын
I like your videos! Detailed and fairly objective.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life Ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Beyondthebox11
@Beyondthebox11 5 ай бұрын
I think they are both good. I would get a 06 or newer just because the 05 had the four-speed transmission instead of the six speed and it had the older steering wheel from the C5 generation. But besides that the 06 to 13’s either one is just fine.
@jasonmiller8812
@jasonmiller8812 5 ай бұрын
I have 05 convertible 6-speed. Manual. Only way to play!
@markmartin7384
@markmartin7384 4 ай бұрын
Those morimoto headlights are the Jam on C6 !!!
@Maxreverse
@Maxreverse 2 ай бұрын
For me the decision was based on the C6 condition. 1 car owner properly maintained with all the service records.
@karpetcm
@karpetcm 3 ай бұрын
Ive driven many ls2 and ls3 cars. They are both very fast only difference i felt was that the ls3 had more top end. Will you rev it past 5k rpms most of the times, you will not, Most driving will be way less rpms then that.
@robertr4715
@robertr4715 5 ай бұрын
Really like my LS2! Fast enough for my skill level! I have a relatively high mile 06 C6 with 115,000 miles on it, but has been perfectly maintained. Not hopped up and not beat. Only thing I wish was different is I wish it had a manual transmission!
@yesh3279
@yesh3279 2 ай бұрын
Well put.Fact is , that 95+% of Corvette (C6) owners can’t drive even a stock LS2 to 75% of its potential and I’m being generous here. So the +30 hp are nothing more than bragging rights. ( Don’t get me started on the Z06 Zl1). Ask any Owner of a ZL1 how many times he/she actually ever hit the absolute top end of their Car. Personally, my ‘07 C6 Convertible is sufficient for North America.
@Ls_corvette
@Ls_corvette 5 ай бұрын
I always say zed because it’s fun also all I play is Led Zeppelin on my guitar
@craigcampbell550
@craigcampbell550 4 ай бұрын
Your vetts look new, any tips on maintaining exteriors?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, not really I think the lights are just making them look really nice 🙂??
@bradkeeney5236
@bradkeeney5236 5 ай бұрын
Also… as someone who’s done a couple of supercharged cars…. There’s an old formula that blower drive service , BDS, put out years ago, that I found to be fairly accurate in certain situations. Especially if you’re talking about 6 pounds of boost to maybe seven. As your boost goes up, your efficiency decreases, and then this formula doesn’t work as well to not very well at all. If you figure that 6 pounds of boost adds another .4, or 40% of another atmosphere to your car, breathing capability and you know that your car makes 1.14 hp/ cubic inch with an LS 3 , or 1.098 horsepower/ cube inch with an LS 2 one can guess the general ballpark for Peak, horsepower at 6 pounds a boost for an LS three (assuming supercharger efficiency is the same, and other factors are the same for both of them, which is an assumption for sure) of about 600 hp at the crank for the LS-3 and 559 hp at the crank for the LS-2. Try playing with that formula because it usually gets you in the ballpark. Again, remember higher boost figures start to play with efficiency, and then the formula doesn’t work so well. About the highest I’ve ever known it to Work was 7-8 pounds and even then it’s not as reliable. Six is usually real reliable.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
LS3 has a tad lower compression as well - which helps is better for supercharging as well. Isn't the BDS stuff mainly for not intercooled roots style blowers - Centrifugals with intercoolers seem to work very well higher compression engines. Thoughts?
@daleliske9757
@daleliske9757 3 ай бұрын
I guess for me, not ever owning a Corvette, but have heard problems with the harmonic balancer being a major problem. With 60,000 miles or less. Can you expand on this "regular problem "
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
Yes, it is well known in corvette circles that C5 and C6 hamonic dampners tend to fail much more often than say LS engines in tahoes and pickups.
@HotRod-wv4vm
@HotRod-wv4vm 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative video.
@GregorioLonewolf
@GregorioLonewolf 2 ай бұрын
Mmmm? LS2? LS3? Which is better? In most cases, at least where I now live vs my lifetime home of San Francisco, the price difference between a LS2 and LS3 C6 is anywhere from 1-4.5k. This being the Pacific Northwest or PNW. Now this also must be taken into account as to which year, how many miles and what has or has not already been done? For adding on mods without doing the heads I would choose the LS3. But, to mod my LS2 the way it should be the heads, intake would be upgraded either with a rebuild and porting or after market. After all a cam, long tube header's, a better harmonic balancer and going X-Pipe would be my 1st changes. Also, as you mentioned, which 6 speed do I want to have? The T-56 or the TR-6060? Automatic? Not if I can get a 3rd pedal. Lastly, with the improvements in so many other aspects of the C6 the later years are definitely the better way to go. In my case I say from 2008-2013. My choice if I was in the buying mood right now, and not going with the coupe, I am looking for a GS or Z06, and money willing, ZR1. However, a 2012 or 2013 LS3 would be just fine. Again, you have done a great job with your videos and the subject matter. It gives me so much to think about and expand my knowledge of my favorite car- Corvette.
@carbo2950
@carbo2950 5 ай бұрын
Just wanted to thank you for the Continental extreme contact sport 02 recommendation. Was running run flat Firestone. Read something about break in period. Right!
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
OHHHH the Continentals vs Runflat Firestone's that is a HUGE increase in performance! NICE.
@DAtoms91
@DAtoms91 3 ай бұрын
Starting to look into a c6 or c7 love these videos thanks for the content
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DAtoms91
@DAtoms91 3 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life I’m in Northern California.. prices are pretty wild on the higher end here so far from my search
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
You should buy from the Midwest for prices are cheaper versus the California prices. All deliver it personally! Emissions might be a problem though, I think California has their own requirements even for new vehicles, that I've never really looked into?
@terjehimle3107
@terjehimle3107 5 ай бұрын
I was told that the LS2 Was badly internal balanced...? But cant find anything on the internet about it. Has to be some horse shit rumor :) Thanks for the video :)😀
@gloriamaletta8667
@gloriamaletta8667 5 ай бұрын
The stock harmonic balancers suck it would last if your keeping rpm under 5500rpm if your reving this engine over 6000rpm repeatedly the stock balancer will go they are not a good option if you plan on pushing the motor real hard l have a 2009 Tahoe PPV 5.3 2WD with a stock balancer with over 150,000 miles on it it redlines at 5800rpm it's still runs very good
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Since it's neutrally balanced, it's actually a vibration dampener. Even if the ring comes loose, other than damaging stuff, shouldn't affect the balance dramatically. Similar to people that use a lightweight flywheel.
@twig7105
@twig7105 3 ай бұрын
Question, looking at a 2007 coupe, LT three with an LS two engine with 63,000 miles guy is asking 21.5 K. What’s your thoughts on price and miles?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
Obviously I haven't test-driven it and I don't know the condition but on the face of it that seems like a fair price to me.
@daleliske9757
@daleliske9757 3 ай бұрын
Another thing, is the Tremec transmission, i have buddy with a 65 GTO. THAT HAD A Tremec 5spd in place of the factory 4 spd, and he has had problems with it, but Customer service seems to be a bigger problem than keeping the original 4sp. No contact.! What so ever.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
Yikes. Did he buy it from Tremec or a vendor?
@daleliske9757
@daleliske9757 3 ай бұрын
@Toys4Life from Tremec, don't know exactly what problems he is having, but he states that customer service SUCKS.!
@shredandenjoy7311
@shredandenjoy7311 4 ай бұрын
Missing one really critical detail about the LS3... if you can get the C6 Grandsport, it comes from the factory with a dry sump! That alone is a major major improvement, and with a few aftermarket mods (baffles etc) it's the ultimate reliable track toy out there. You'll pay through the nose on those specific models though.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 4 ай бұрын
Very good point, all of the grand sports with manual transmissions came with dry sump!
@mmid8960
@mmid8960 4 ай бұрын
LS2 goes for 22k average and LS3 goes for 30 average in my area and just searching I’ve looked for the past 3 years and that’s where I’m at can pick up a clean ls2 vette 20-24k and ls3 for 25-30
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
What part of the country?
@mmid8960
@mmid8960 2 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life Ohio
@hbgriss
@hbgriss 4 ай бұрын
I’m looking for one right now. 👍🏻
@TheSlowEcoboost
@TheSlowEcoboost 4 ай бұрын
Got an ls3 two weeks ago hopefully it’s reliable because for a week it’s been in the shop 😭
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 4 ай бұрын
It will be reliable!! - probably in the shop for something silly??
@riley539
@riley539 3 ай бұрын
I have a chance to purchase a base model c6 with a brand new engine swapped LS2 still under dealer warranty. Should I go for it?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
That's going to depend on the condition of the car How much they're asking for it in your financial position.
@riley539
@riley539 3 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life it's $25k. I'm going to try to get a test drive. My current daily driver is a 392 srt charger, I am hoping to come out of the sale with enough cash to cover the Vette and most of a new intake/cam/headers setup and a tune
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
Good luck 👍
@yehornaumov5893
@yehornaumov5893 3 ай бұрын
Corvette is to me small sport car with truck engine 😆 Love this. More of HEMI guy But building AWD import
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
Building stuff is cool!
@yehornaumov5893
@yehornaumov5893 3 ай бұрын
You definitely can't beat America v8 LS and HEMI are legendary
@ctvette1318
@ctvette1318 5 ай бұрын
LS3 for me! No replacement for displacement.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
How about positive displacement?
@ctvette1318
@ctvette1318 5 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life can’t get enough!
@ginomwbceo1033
@ginomwbceo1033 10 күн бұрын
Aluminum block ? 😢
@supersport8186
@supersport8186 5 ай бұрын
I enjoy the videos. I own a 07 vette with a ls2 and a 14 SS sport sedan with a ls3 and they both had harmonic balancer issues.
@gloriamaletta8667
@gloriamaletta8667 5 ай бұрын
The stock harmonic balancer will not take much abuse if reving over 6000rpm repeatedly bottom line for performance use they suck
@cas5247
@cas5247 5 ай бұрын
Unless you are a professional race car driver you will not notice the difference. Most corvette drivers can’t drive their cars to 70 percent of what they can do. So the 7 percent difference is not noticeable. But morons waist money on silly mods that do little instead of taking driving classes. Iv seen guys in Mazda Miatas lap zo6s at VIR.
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely RESPECT the LS Miata's but I personally can't get past the looks for a track car.
@BrockNielsen
@BrockNielsen 5 ай бұрын
Good video!
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir!!
@dilleoc5759
@dilleoc5759 2 ай бұрын
LS3 does not put out 430 on dyno ask me how I know this stop formation that is
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 2 ай бұрын
Correct. That's engine horsepower. 436hp at the engine with the special exhaust...
@samthing4thetrack806
@samthing4thetrack806 Ай бұрын
no 10 qauart dry sump no GO, but yeah in a straight line. why are corvettes slow at the road course because left sweepers for more than a second mean boom? which is a shame because the entire platform since the C5 are very good, except for brakes, oiling, and some drivers
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life Ай бұрын
Yikes
@oler777
@oler777 5 ай бұрын
around WA state LS3 cars are like 27-35k but there also usually Grand sports so they have the wider body my car is a late 07 and i know the 08 cars werer the tr6060 but when i look at the gm options list/build sheet of my car it says manual tr6060 is it possible some late 07 cars got the tr 6 speed?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Not that I have heard - but anything is possible!
@oler777
@oler777 5 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life either way, I love my manual
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
For sure!
@tylerross3847
@tylerross3847 4 ай бұрын
Dang, I was happy with my LS2 choice up until the last ~30 seconds of the video. *le sigh* TIme to pony up, lol
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 4 ай бұрын
Nah you're still 👍
@SinisterC6
@SinisterC6 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for using my photo how did you find it?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
That is a fantastic picture! How did you do it? I stumbled on it a while back and thought that would make a good thumbnail picture for the right video. When I made this video I thought to myself that is the right picture to go with it. I hope you don't mind!
@SinisterC6
@SinisterC6 5 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life I did that back in 09, some photoshop work on a pic of my car in a cemetery because the car is "sinister" don't mind at all glad you liked.
@danlaur7973
@danlaur7973 5 ай бұрын
Put the Fast ( or better yet, the MSD ) intake on a LS3 & you are over 450hp, just though I would mention that
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
I've been mainly focused on the LS2s but I was of the thought process that the stock LS3 manifold equaled the fast and MSD on the LS3, or at the very least it didn't add much, am I wrong 😕?
@InTheHookJohn
@InTheHookJohn 4 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life you are not wrong. No way an intake adds about 25-30 hp to an LS3. It does add a lot to an LS2 though.
@mick304
@mick304 3 ай бұрын
I have always wondered just how much of a difference there is between and LS2 and an LS3. At the moment that doesn't really pertain to me since I have an LS1 (03). Would love to have gotten an LS7, but about 75% higher in price than what I paid for my C5.
@RichardDiedrich-o1l
@RichardDiedrich-o1l 5 ай бұрын
Say I have a LS2 and I love it . If I need more power it would be easy to beef it up . But I don't it's plenty fast to get me a ticket if I do not watch my speed. LOL
@Debkghtulvkfjkjfxjjcj
@Debkghtulvkfjkjfxjjcj 5 ай бұрын
Beginning of the video: LS2 and LS3 are basically the same. End of the video: Ls3 has better motor components and better transmission. LOL
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 5 ай бұрын
Sorry about that - I must have had the bouncing balls too far apart, if you want a nice powerful C6 and you're going to leave it at that like most people do, LS2 is fine. If you want a nice fast C6 and you plan to modify the piss out of it, get an LS3 (:-).
@Debkghtulvkfjkjfxjjcj
@Debkghtulvkfjkjfxjjcj 5 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life if you’re stretching every penny to get into a corvette, then an LS2 is a fine choice if you can find a smoking deal. Ls2’s are associated with the 2005 c6 which is generally thought of to be a real problem and not very desirable. But if the extra cost to get into an ls3 is not an issue, there is no reason to buy an ls2. Whether real or fiction, the perception that the ls3 is superior is cemented in the corvette community. For resale or value retention, therefore, the ls3 should always be chosen.
@sebylmao0
@sebylmao0 Ай бұрын
correction, that's not European, that's uk "zet ar one"😂 im în balkan and naturally im saying it ZR1, maybe more american than most of yall😂
@Nicecarbro
@Nicecarbro 2 ай бұрын
The eagles 😂
@bae9116
@bae9116 3 ай бұрын
Ls7
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 3 ай бұрын
LS9
@cali2468
@cali2468 4 ай бұрын
What comparison? There is no comparison. Lol
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 4 ай бұрын
Hey right, but LS7 just puts out so much horsepower and torque (:-)
@chrisj2308
@chrisj2308 4 ай бұрын
hello sir question , just got into vettes not too long ago and had a question. when the car is at idle with clutch out , there is a rattle sound coming from under but when you push the clutch in , the noise goes away. now i’ve seen the annoying torque tube but see that they still have the noise while they are driving but for me i don’t have any noises only while at idle with clutch out any ideas ?
@Toys4Life
@Toys4Life 4 ай бұрын
Lots of possible noises in the drivetrain of the M6 Corvette. How many miles are on it?
@chrisj2308
@chrisj2308 4 ай бұрын
@@Toys4Life there are currently 94k miles on it , previous owner stated he just got a new clutch in few months back
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