C64 Games That Make You Go Meh....

[@doylum]

I did the graphics for Ninja Rabbits... 😮 It was my first job and first professional game I worked on... Aged 17. 🤣

[@SebsPlaceYT]

That's awesome! The graphics are the best bit by a country mile!!! Cheers for the comment! What else did you work on?

[@doylum]

@@SebsPlaceYT Trolls, Elvira II and Elvira the arcade game, Winter SuperSports, international Ninja Rabbits. I think that's about it for the C64. 👍

[@talideon]

​@@doylumThe graphics were some of the best aspects of those games, so well done!

[@blatherskite3009]

The graphics are the best thing about the game, so you can be proud 😄 Yep, a lot of us who worked on games in that era were really young at the time (I was 19) so we're early 50s-ish now and still quite chipper! Barring misfortune, most of the people responsible for these games are probably still alive and watching YT takedowns of their juvenilia...

[@stevezm100]

@@doylum elvira pinball always freaked me out as a kid

[@arostwocents]

RoseTintedSpectrum has an AMAZING review of Olli & Lissa in the form of a poem that builds up level by level (as you repeat each level before the next 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3 etc) that everyone should go watch!

[@SebsPlaceYT]

I've seen a lot of Daves videos but not seen that one. Will check it out - cheers.

[@SweetStevieAaron]

Rock Star ended up on budget quite quickly (less than a year if I recall right) but it was originally released on “Code Masters Gold” and heavily advertised. Guessing it didn’t do that well as they shied away from that after didn’t they?

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Yes! I always thought it was budget!

[@arostwocents]

Weird as it's a great game.

[@OperationPhantom]

Thanks for highlighting some of these poor "meh" games that are often overlooked for some reason!

[@SebsPlaceYT]

No worries 👍

[@wonderdog8895]

Feud... yikes, I always thought the monks in the c64 version were wondering around with their giant tadgers sticking out from their robes and waggling around as they walked about. Can't unsee!

[@SebsPlaceYT]

I know! I did think that but wondered if I should mention it or it was just me being childish. Literally walking around with their twangers out 😂 Any other colour would have been fine...but no..they went for pink! I'm glad you posted. I don't feel so bad now 😂😂😂

[@Stefan-jo1sz]

😂cant unsee indeed! Looks more Like Trunks to me.

[@NorthWay_no]

Nexus was a well hyped game from a new company(IIRC) that were some kind of superstar developer type I think. The game sank the company AFAIR.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

yep!

[@merman1974]

Paul Voysey, who had created PSI Warrior for Beyond. Nexus was hyped because of the digitised graphics and the long development time. Plus it was in the fancy plastic packaging from the NEXUS label - Gary Liddon of ZZAP! then spent most of his review talking about the packaging rather than the game.

[@WanderlustZero]

Olli and Lissa had a great story IIRC... an American millionaire was buying a castle in Scotland to turn into a hotel, and you had to help your ghost m8 become scary again to scare him out of it. Love to see a modern remake on the Trump golf course ;)

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Ha! That would be great!

[@richardheath1570]

I can remember buying Ninja Rabbits and then getting it's sequel International Ninja Rabbits and getting my mother to order me the t-shirt with the artwork on as there was an offer for it in the cassette box at the time. In hindsight Ninja Rabbits didn't quite become the franchise I was hoping for back then.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Haha love it. Ninja Rabbits is a cool concept that I would have definitely been all over. Bet the t-shirt was cool too... shame about the game. Cheers for sharing.

[@arostwocents]

@Seb - H and N references are still funny. Recognising and laughing at the absurd aspects does not take away from the serious ones. Taking away the ability to laugh at certain things is so American and a sad indictment of modern society.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Yep, I agree! It was interesting that at the time, a lot of reviewers pointed it out.

[@stancooper5436]

LoL.. can't believe Paul Voysey got a mention by name. I work with the guy (software engineering, not games). Didn't realise he wrote that one.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Ha, brilliant 😁

[@jessragan6714]

Frogmaster is a big bowl of WTF stuffed into a cartridge. I loaned it to a classmate at school and he couldn't give it back quickly enough.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

😂😂 I'm gonna have to check that out, thanks!

[@danm3195]

I never missed an issue,good times.

[@WanderlustZero]

Got to love a game that let's you die falling down the stairs. Modern gamers just wouldn't understand. You could do it in Silent Hill though Nexus... what a crazily ambitious game that was, very daunting, very serious. Just spent ages shooting and beating people up (who I now realise were the Nexus agents) and fiddling around with the text editing computer, never managed to get anywhere

[@nickbungus]

I love the juxtaposition of marking mediocre out of ten. Fantastic concept Seb

[@SebsPlaceYT]

😂😂 thanks. Someone suggested the more meh games should have got 5, but it's nice to mix things up a bit 😁

[@terraspent]

i thoroughly enjoyed this venture down the avenue of MEH hehe. As a commodore kid myself, from christmas of 87 even in those days addled by bias for the c64, I certainly did notice a lot of nice looking games with nice SFX that ultimately was a pile of MEH. Though i would of seldom admitted it a lot of the speccy versions had better looking cartoony sprites and often held more playability in many of those same games. In general the speccy had more love put into its work.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Glad you enjoyed it! Speccy had some properly MEH games trust me 😁 but nice to see some C64 ones! Cheers for the comment!

[@steveford1070]

Rockstar ate my hamster??? love it, nowadays it's best played on an OG C64 as the cartridge conversion on a flash cart

[@SebsPlaceYT]

I really loved it back then....now....yeah....not much to it.

[@bjornh1527]

I’ve had this idea that there should exist a KZbin personality focused on perfectly okay, average games. At the time there was a rise of comedic angry reviewers, and also creators talking about games they liked. But I’m interested in ALL old games. So I really appreciate this video giving the unspectacular games a place in the spotlight.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Thank you 😊 I agree. Every game should get their time to shine no matter how average they are! ❤️

[@delboy3k1]

Great video as always. I always considered a meh game as a game scored between 45 and 65% so I am wondering is this a list of the meh of the meh games lol just kidding but loved the video :-)

[@SebsPlaceYT]

😂😂 cheers mate.

[@davidretrogamesplayedbadly3533]

All c64 games are meh 🤣😂💩

[@talideon]

Oh, Nexus. Got that on a Zzap covertape, IIRC. Aside from the ridiculously small play area and the fact that it explained itself really poorly, it was at least an interesting concept, so I'll give it that.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Yeah it had potential!!

[@WhatHoSnorkers]

I had that Tarzan game on the ZX Spectrum.... and was disappointed. Objects can be hidden behind the foreground, and apparently you need to collect some items in a very specific order too. Meh indeed.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Oh, that's definitely worth a couple more meh points! 😐

[@djdustie]

I remember Nexus vividly, Zzap!64 had a preview of it long before it was released and were raving about how great it looked. When it came out, I purchased it without waiting for the real review and, boy was it a dud. Suckered.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Oh no.... I did that once with the Flintstones game. Never again. Cheers for sharing 🥰

[@AdLockhorst-bf8pz]

ZZAP64 called *KOYAANISQATSI* the movie of the year, back in the day 😊👍

[@SebsPlaceYT]

I had never heard of this until today.....

[@AdLockhorst-bf8pz]

@@SebsPlaceYT 😳 that's sad! Of course I'm kinda prejudiced because KOYAANISQATSI is my favourite movie of all time ... otherwise I wouldn't remember that little factoid.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

I'm on it 👀

[@hazy33]

Your Tannoy speakers must be pretty old now. I have that model and bought them about 1989-ish 🙂

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Ha yeah. My first pay packet after I got my first proper job. 1994 😁 still work beautifully 😍

[@hazy33]

@@SebsPlaceYT Funny you should say that altho they weren't the first thing, that was a ghetto blaster they were next up. From my princely £3,500 a year wages. And we've both removed the clothe grill to make them look cooler 🙂 And mine still work as well.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Ha! Love it! My salary was similar! Think my first monthly wage was 400 quid. Went to local hifi shop that was having a sale, got the tannoys and a rotel amp. Happy days 🥰 and yeah, grills off 😎

[@hazy33]

@@SebsPlaceYT Living at home previously on pocket money it felt like I was rich!! Then you've no money left for the rest of the month, mum wants rent. I mean she had me surely it's her responsibility to look after me for free! So selfish 🙂

[@SebsPlaceYT]

🤣🤣

[@merman1974]

Olli & Lissa's biggest problem is that you have to go back and forth through the same screens repeatedly. Feud is actually bugged on the C64, the computer AI doesn't work properly. Schizofrenia was original but so difficult to control. Metabolis was reviewed but then given away on the B-side of Bounder. Nexus was a good idea but badly implemented, the digitised pictures were ahead of their time. Rock Star deserved a better score, the caricatures are great and the music was really fun (Gavin Raeburn the programmer came up with a unique randomisation system that generated the music). Tarzan is genuinely meh, I do like the Rob Hubbard music and the changing daylight/night-time, but it lacks real excitement. I've actually written a book on terrible C64 games, called C64 Nightmares - due out from Fusion Retro Books soon.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Ooooh I will look out for that! Thanks for the comment!

[@davidretrogamesplayedbadly3533]

Every single one of these games is far far better on the zx spectrum, even the ones not released on the zx spectrum 😂🤣

[@SebsPlaceYT]

🤣🤣 Great reply Dave! Denny will be proud!

[@dennyhaynes3]

I told you, I told you! 🤣😂

[@KevPage-Witkicker]

Meh games for me; Flyerfox, The Last V8, Caverns Of Eriban, Clean-Up Time (saved by the free loading game)

[@caeserromero3013]

I bought Ninja Rabbits.....it was rubbish....

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Agreed!

[@Mindrax]

I love Nexus. I played it but never completed it. But Rock Star Ate My Hamster is a friggin gem in my opinion. I still play it from time to time. NOT meh at all.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Yeah I loved it back then, just thought there was more to it

[@dweston76]

Good concept!

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Cheers

[@mvl71]

Take a shot everytime he says _meh_

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Pissed at the 10 minute mark 😂

[@trcwm]

Sloshed already!

[@SeanONeill-ef5vb]

I did once. Lost a week of memories lol

[@nelsonhibbert5267]

I thought you meant rifle fire. I'm in trouble now......... Don't worry I was using the light gun that came with the +2 James Bond Action Pack (actually it was a black +2A, what a pain in the arse those things were).

[@LordmonkeyTRM]

Great as usual

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Cheers mate

[@Yesterzine]

Metabolis, albeit on Spectrum was the first video game I ever played..... I can't really disagree sadly but obviously it's got a place in my heart always. Also, surely the most meh game is whatever gets a meh rating of 5/10. Same as the biggest loser is whoever comes 2nd in a competition to find the biggest loser.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

😁😁 yes, good point, the scores should have been average. Dammit. Missed a trick there... also sorry not sorry to piss over your first game mate. I genuinely love the storyline behind it, just not the game so much......🤪

[@frankowalker4662]

Some really shoddy work in that lot. LOL.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

😆 there really was!

[@Zhixalom]

♪ ♫ 'Games' that make you go 'Meh', 'Games' that make you go 'Meh', 'Games' that make you go 'Meh', uuuh uuh uh yeah! ♫ ♪ 🤨 ... and the question on everybody's minds right now is, has the big Seb finally flipped? - Meh, Seb's just zis guy, you know? 🥸😆

[@SebsPlaceYT]

🤣🤣 cheers mate

[@dennyhaynes3]

I actually liked Tarzan, played very similar to the first level of Flash Gordon. Now then, I'm waiting for Dave to show up in the comments. If he mentions brown just say "Sid chip" 😂

[@SebsPlaceYT]

😂😂😂 he's not here yet....but I'm hopeful!

[@jameslong9921]

Blagger was one of my fave C64 games, Amok was one of my favorite Vic20 games, even though it's really pretty crap.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Nice. You played either more recently? Still crap?

[@laladoopsy]

Meh is the worst something can be, I'd rather watch or play something bad than something meh. Meh gives you nothing. No one cares to remember the meh

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Yeah 100% these games will be forgotten....although in reality...that is no bad thing. Cheers

[@whetphish]

You crack me up! 😂

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Thanks 😊

[@WolfenSG]

Feud is a great atmospheric horror game... on Atari. One of my favourites actually. Unfortunately C64 version is utter trash... and well it is also broken as the main enemy is supposed to follow the compass but instead appears on the screen randomly making the whole gameplay pointless.

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Ah yes cheers. I had read it was bugged but was unsure why.

[@akink9620]

You had to be there

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Maybe......

[@akink9620]

No logically

[@Mayhemerz]

No, they are all meh !

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Possibly....

[@jenshoffmannolsen]

meh...

[@SebsPlaceYT]

Meh