A Sound Design Trick NO-ONE IS Talking About 🤫

Here's a secret sound design trick no-one is talking about… the chords hidden inside white noise!
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[@jonoc5]

No exaggeration that white noise chord trick is the coolest thing I’ve seen in a production short. Awesome.

[@Cableguys]

🙏🙏🙏

[@unduloid]

There was a VST that was based on this trick, and it sounded way cool. It was buggy though, and the guy making it didn't make a fixed version. Bummer.

[@elvissanchez8985]

It truly is!

[@lito5953]

on some Aphex shit

[@TrapAPMadeItSlap]

Or like, just make the chord.. 😅

[@ashtonsgotsauce9981]

i’ve never thought about literally carving a sound out of a block of noise, like a statue. this is sick

[@cougarten]

"subtractive synthesis" is the keyword and used in quite a few synths

[@RenatoCruzTrance]

you'll become a sound designer now x)

[@OGSurferz]

I just copy and paste parts of the wave. Sound is my bytch

[@RenatoCruzTrance]

@@OGSurferz ever tried a synth with harmonic editing? just so you get a clean moan from your bytch with your own waves

[@TheAkdzyn]

Bro, you described this so well! Literally what he's doing.

[@kingofdoodoo1877]

bro they’re milking shaperbox to it’s physical limit😭

[@BKthaGr808]

Milking!? Mann they show me things I never knew could be done with not just Shaperbox but other sounds in general 🤣

[@sawyersmith4154]

To be fair, it’s the culmination of many products they’ve worked on for years. If I had found a way to effectively combine many of my products into a well-refined, versatile (while still being user-friendly) product I’d pump the shit out of it too. It’s a pretty comprehensive plug-in, especially when it comes to time-based effects

[@kaihamasaki9307]

They’re showing how many things you can do with the plug in.

[@randowboosh6772]

frrrr i feel like i should be paying extra for all the extra functions i get out of shaperbox wit these vids

[@sethforesi307]

Difference between milking and using something to its fullest potential

[@JM_2019]

There is an even bigger secret: this is exactly, what synths are for.

[@HoSza1]

haha, roasted them

[@modernalkhemist3169]

@@HoSza1 roasted himself. Not everyone thinks the same way, or has the same workflow, or the same understanding of synths. This makes it super simple with an easy UI... I for one never even knew this or how to go about it Ableton. Thanks to him, I know.

[@HoSza1]

@@modernalkhemist3169 Nonetheless it's worth a try implementing this technique in python for example, maybe even faster for those who don't use Ableton.

[@Bconsuegra255]

Yeah but this sort of picks the notes for you and you may end up with something outside your normal wheelhouse.

[@JM_2019]

@@Bconsuegra255 A synth picks the notes / frequencies according to the keys you press.

[@kaComposer]

My guy rediscovered subtractive synthesis

[@codyrap95]

My man just discovered synthesis

[@hangedups2608]

😂

[@joshcarter-com]

Exactly. Quoting Wikipedia: “Subtractive synthesis is a method of sound synthesis in which partials of an audio signal (often one rich in harmonics) are attenuated by a filter to alter the timbre of the sound.”

[@MaxXFalcon]

​@@joshcarter-combut i suppose plugins usually modify sine wawe instead of white noise

[@pilot.wav_theory]

thats so fucking cool, peaking specific frequencies of white noise to make chords? you can even go microtonal with that

[@borroni9090]

Or just do it for a single frequency and then put it in a sampler so u can play whatever notes u want with it 😂

[@LYAR0]

@@borroni9090 not necessarily because you would be disturbing the “purity” of the surrounding white noise.

[@borroni9090]

@@LYAR0 wdym? If u do what im saying u can actually use it as an instrument, u can with this too but then u gotta eq out all the specific notes and chords u need for everything, or u just do what i do and play midi. It sound's essentially the same.

[@bassdrumflextime1253]

​@@borroni9090 fr lol

[@bbbbbbb51]

​@@borroni9090it doesn't sound the same at all. That's his entire point. Both are ways of getting it done, but they do not sound the same.

[@x86_architecture10]

This is called subtractive synthesis.

[@ChrisD__]

ZynAddSubFX :>

[@x86_architecture10]

@@ChrisD__ Yes.

[@searchiemusic]

*ADDITIVE

[@AndrewPRoberts]

@@searchiemusic no

[@x86_architecture10]

@@searchiemusic No. It's subtractive.

[@sursomsatan1225]

Add reverb and drop two octaves and you're Hans Zimmer

[@HeroC14]

Wow it's called white noise similar to white light in that they contain the entire spectrum of the medium they emit. I never knew that.

[@noosehangingtight]

Bro this channel has been flooding my recommendations randomly over the past month and god damn im happy this channel really has elevated my production knowledge

[@Cableguys]

That's great to hear! 😊

[@purpleshaft234]

Well They are the same guys who brought us the life changer Kickstart (1 & 2)

[@JenyaIsJustChilling]

Dude. I've been listening to and creating drone ambient / noise music for years, but never thought about this specific trick. Thank you.

[@Cableguys]

Very welcome!

[@electromaniac1237]

Didn't expect to see a fellow noise music lover here hello!

[@SaintMichaelOfficial]

Most of this channel's tips are useful and worth making note of, especially for beginner/intermediate producers, but even then, this one is pretty cool. Bless up.

[@omarbarrios3420]

It's pointless

[@HeavenlyFloopThe2nd]

@@omarbarrios3420??

[@static.2837]

​@@omarbarrios3420 its useful

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

​@@omarbarrios3420how so

[@JM-sq3jj]

I just really like doing stuff like this because it helps me stay motivated. Rather than repeating the same steps for every sound every time, saw you post this on Instagram a while back and have been messing with it since! It’s really fun to mess with the bass frequencies as well to get some deep washed out Reese style pads, just gotta be real careful in post processing Thank you for opening my eyes to this 🙏🏼

[@cerulity32k]

bro turned tv static into ethereal sounds

[@GabrielSuceaOfficial]

Holy cow this is the best tip I've seen in a short since ever! The white noise chords sound so satisfying

[@maomallows]

Boosting resonances using an EQ is a common technique on Color Bass, in addition to Resonators, Convolution Reverbs, and Vocoding. This technique has been used by artists like Virtual Riot, SImilar Outskirts, Paper Skyies, and many others in the Color Bass scene.

[@johndododoe1411]

It's one of the 2 techniques used in old school modular synthesizers from the 1970s and early 1980s . Those things were essentially boxes filled with smaller boxes each doing exactly one of the functions this guy is simulating on his computer . Back then the musician would physically run audio cables fro the noise generator to the eq and the tunable filters, one of which was controlled by the piano keys where she played the melody . The other technique was to start with an oscillator producing a pure sine note instead of white noise .

[@randomacountboy]

I've used that trick to tune the wind in my game to match the music that plays.

[@MorseAmalgam]

Would love to see this in action! Got a devblog?

[@amenetaka2419]

What's the game called?

[@denizcan714]

Here's an another tip. Using a plugin called Vital to do the almost same trick because vitals filter actually have keyboard tracking so after you use a comb filter to the white noise. Sometimes it makes saw pads more full.

[@kotface3919]

This is actually pretty clever! I already had this idea, but you're using it way more creatively.

[@michaelrhudak]

You can also use this on an EQ connected to a reverb send, and then make the equal and opposite cut on the instrument itself. Gives the instrument a more ethereal quality.

[@-______-______-]

Sorry, I'm interested in what you say here, but I don't quite follow what the outcome is. And also don't quite follow what you mean with equal and opposite cut?

[@AlbertoBalsalme]

Yeah I'd also appreciate if you could clarify what you meant in more details for we that are less knowledgeable in this topic, this sounds very interesting and I'd love to try it but these instructions are a little too vague for me to follow!

[@cequiestbon3676]

That is wild, I mean I kind of feel it made sense to me prior, but to see and hear it at the same time together, makes me understand it more

[@luke_fabis]

It makes perfect sense seeing it demonstrated, but my mind is still blown by this.

[@chickenslothstudios699]

Cool stuff. Lately I have been using a similar principal using downtuned hihats and snares, adding frequency spikes --- it's amazing the sounds that can be made using filters, eq, and some noise.

[@isaacsanchez7317]

so this is how daydream by i hate models was made, the lead sounds identical

[@KartyrOfficial]

The chord one is sick! I’ve done it a few times but I’m gonna try it again :)

[@dede6giu]

this is actually what people used to do for drums in early videogames! since samples were too expensive on the memory, the consoles came with a chip designed to make only noise, and said noise would be enveloped to sound like drums.

[@auxchar]

This is the definition of subtractive synthesis

[@dominicstocker5144]

Most subtractive synth patches don’t do stuff like this (because of the lack of enough filters, probably)

[@SycoDeathDealer]

Well, technically you are making sure that something materialises outside of noise, so in a sense you areadding information thus being additive synthesis

[@auxchar]

@@SycoDeathDealer No, additive synthesis is the process of building up a sound by stacking layers of sound. Subtractive synthesis is the process of starting with some signal, usually noise, and subtracting frequencies away using filters.

[@Jake_Godsil_Music]

Such a great idea!

[@galahad38]

This is the first sound design KZbin Short I've seen that provided me value. That was awesome.

[@NeesyPlaysGuitar]

Lol we did this in the 80s on modular synths. This generation loves "reinventing the wheel"

[@painengineer]

White noise is used ALL the time in sound design... especially if youre making basses in serum

[@RyanYoung-br1iz]

wow cool, saw someone do this before but didnt consider that it could be making chords ahahh

[@Stepanthecrab]

We use it in post production sound design for creating strange and spooky ambiences. But we use real ambiences recordings instead of white noise

[@unownnnn]

It's pretty clear that growing up with social media has stunted people's maturity

[@imnotthatstupidlol3330]

Bruh how have I never done this. Gotta try that out asap.

[@lou5041]

You man are the absolute best, ive stored many of your ideas for inspiration, you are soo creative🔥

[@Cableguys]

Really glad you're getting so much from the tips! 🙌

[@Stevie8654]

That’s the sound that makes tv speakers sound like they’re about to tear into a million pieces

[@IMezeldaI]

When he pulls the eq boost the chord instantly reminds me of “Paris in the rain by Lauv” right at the intro.

[@zu7u444]

Yes, this is what youtube shorts is for.

[@Dan-rv5wv]

"tOp sEcReT" L0L that's like the first thing you learn in any sound design course

[@Dan-rv5wv]

@@lardavmercy7584 I engaged just to call out how idiotic this is but I guess you are right the only thing that matters is getting the engagement that's why we have so much retarded content.

[@entx8491]

8-bit chip music producers just entered the chat...

[@rainer3755]

i love these. i’ve been using shaperbox for years but lately i’ve been using it multiple times in projects and i really love it. thanks for one of my fave tools and tutorials on it!!

[@C_Corpze]

Wow, that's super cool! I didn't know you could do something this cool with noise!

[@redcollard3586]

No one's talking about subtractive synthesis?!? NO ONE??!?

[@briancase9527]

I've been doing this for years. Try this with a high-hat sample or other percussion. You can get some really useful pitched-but-transient-rich sounds.

[@Soloist1983]

I have never thought of creating chords with white noise harmonics, epic props man, I won't forget this!!

[@justinsundstrom8976]

Anything also resembling white noise works as well, but it has to be a consistent note. Like a bass drone.

[@crayonburry]

As someone who has a music software downloaded, this taught me so much for not knowing anything. I just stared at it dumbfounded before

[@Vitae_]

This really isn’t a common way to make anything so don’t get started making all your tracks by eqing your melody lmaooo

[@crayonburry]

@@Vitae_ not making music but just seeing what any of the buttons actually mean

[@Vitae_]

@@crayonburry so why would you download it lol

[@crayonburry]

@@Vitae_ I was talking about what I learnt from the video

[@Trentcast]

Noisia covered this in a patreon tutorial a few years back! Glad to see this is going around now 🙌🏼

[@mfThump]

woiii 🙏

[@Bleats_Sinodai]

Now I just need to learn how to do that in Caustic 3

[@user-rp6ol2hx5f]

Damn… This will be a great addition to my “use when you are out of creativity” collection!

[@antlerbraum2881]

This is such a cool trick, thx

[@psy-lounge]

great tip, would be great if this were available as a non-short!

[@Koedean]

Its crazy what a bit of creativity can do.

[@hexhiaa]

been doing this since 2020, is super useful for synthesizing metallic sounding hihats

[@queenpurple8433]

I’ve done this but automated the peaks to change notes. Pretty easy to figure out on your own.

[@MaxUgly]

I know (at least in the 80's) engineers would put a gate on the snare that allowed portions of white noise through for a more "synthy" sound.

[@ArcticWolfOfficial]

Thats absolutely nuts lol. The amount of ways that sound can be manipulated amazes me

[@zsoltnagy8442]

That was one of the best part about thr Fabfilter Volcano 3 demo video.

[@douggroulx1525]

Love it! I’ve always been into crazy creative stuff, the things you can do with a roll of tape and a mic with some DAW manipulation is just mind blown! Thanks for sharing this.

[@Cableguys]

That must be "the sound of tape" we keep hearing about 😉👍

[@BSP1822]

When I was in school, I learned how to use envelope to make a drum kit from a sine wave. This is similar, but with specific notes.

[@era5806]

Dope! Tuning the white noise is a nice trick 👍

[@xeridian]

Use the Ambience feature in Clarity to pull out all sorts of noise to run into Shaperbox.

[@MFKitten]

I've been doing this for a long time! I love adding a tiny bit of musicality to an ambient drone for a game environment too, just to add a certain emotional edge.

[@someguy8]

Wow, didnt think white noise can be that beautiful

[@emiel333]

This is a cool sound design trick!

[@jasonmeinhart8525]

Sic! I'm definitely using this now. Thanks for the tip!

[@superpatchemario]

This is some splatoon type sound design

[@craigsurette3438]

Do this to found sounds/ambient recordings to make them playable as a pitched instrument

[@borroni9090]

Whats like this but actually useful is using ambient sounds and stuff like birds or waterfalls or people talking and doing it. Takes a few layers of eq but only eq like a C3 note so u can put it in a sampler and use it as an instrument. makes crazy sounds

[@DanzelDangleben]

damn!!! cableguys are the goat!

[@lilbuoy]

One of my favorites also gotta remember to eq to the right frequency depending on the notes and whatnot

[@FullCitrisExtra]

Pretty sure this sound is what I've been looking for for a long time

[@liltick102]

You can make an 808 / sub out of a kick this way too - I don’t recommend it, but you can. It will layer well with the OG kick, but there are way better ways than that lol. I do sometimes do this method, and second it, but maybe fuck with it in another eq- automated or 50% the verb dry~~or just mb comp- either way, this creates really harsh harmonic pitches, regardless of whether or not they are suited to the track, so they should be tamed even if they don’t seem to need it. Fucking with thin upward eq’s w white noise, or sample loops sometimes can really be cool - there’s a lot you can do with white noise (opposed to just being a textural bed) that is incredibly helpful as this tip.

[@RennieAsh]

I made "wind" by EQing noise and sliding pitch shift years ago. It worked well enough for my purpose. Supplemented with a little bit of recorded wind noise from someone

[@BritishBeachcomber]

It's a great trick, but you need an EQ with narrow band filters tuned to exact equal temperament notes.

[@ethanmuro7779]

this sounds like a radiohead song

[@C_4-5]

Bro white noise can make synths, snares, kicks, anything. I love white noise, especially because it tunes out the screaming voices in my head at night.

[@danmarm5357]

This guy is becoming my idol wtf, love him! Cableguys don't let him go

[@betterbeatsofficial]

Mindblowing! Thanks so much for this 🙏

[@mjk9833]

The snare sound is killa 🤯

[@Fenthule]

my guy, there's a video of Savant here in yt that's a bit under 2 hours where he takes a vocal sample of him making literal random sounds and synthesizing it into a legit song. He does this exact thing at one point where his vocals were like a raspy scream it was essentially white noise, only he did the opposite - he heard frequencies and cut them out to make sure his sound was in a major chord. It's probably one of the craziest examples I've seen of perfect pitch actually lol

[@R4YTOVEN]

Dope as hell honestly

[@marym1lky]

Holy hell this is perfect for making ambient stuff

[@adamjackpartington8068]

Basic physical modelling, underrated syntheses method. Try using the supermodal VST from polyverse to take this technique even further

[@MORKUM]

you can enhance those frequencies also with subtrative synthesis by adding sine waves in each of this notes

[@searchiemusic]

boosting a singe frequency in white noise literally is adding a sine wave

[@jamwrightiam]

It's not taught enough yeah but it's how most ambient music makers make their drone tracks, which is a firm of sound design so yeah pretty common trick. A very good common trick

[@astromandomine14]

The 'Countdown' theme is there after the 'raw materials' suggestion

[@zS39SBT4fe5Zp8Q]

I felt that Soundscape

[@DJdeliverance]

I love how it's used it classic trance music signs 2008-10

[@BodyOfPlayMusic]

Super cool 🛸❄️

[@nickterry4487]

I thought this short was gonna suck but it was surprisingly really interesting and useful

[@bestbeekeeper8931]

that white noise percussion trick is actually how NES games got their drum sounds

[@KidTonyGaming]

This was sound designers did in early video game development when they only had a few kb of data reserved for sound, but they wanted a big vibrant multi instrument sounding soundtrack

[@cmoor8616]

White noise synths are dope made some recently

[@perfectthetech]

I thought this was going to have something to do with The Office 😂😂

[@briancase6180]

I use right peaks in percussion samples a lot. Very nice.

[@Wheramai]

Usually clips that start like this are BS, however this is inspiring... Take my like and sub

[@AuT0maTe1]

This is wicked I've done something similar boosting a single note frequency like "a" or something on like a field recording and using that as the synth but never thought of doing it for several notes at once (well outside of multiple of the same note to get more of that tone).