I ordered one of these on the last Ali sale and it just got here today, I've been pleased so far. Couldn't get the rivets unscrewed so I just threw it on some brown suede leather and it looks great. Love the vintage sizing of it on my skinny wrist. My bezel has a little bit of wiggle and seems to catch at some point as well but it's not the worst I've had. I always liked the look of the San Martin but never wanted to pay 300 bucks or so for it so I'm glad I found this. People always talk about a summer beater, well this is my fall beater.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like mine. Thanks for letting me know your thoughts, the suede strap sounds interesting....may have to throw mine in one, too
@drewbienor2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t San Martin go for matt bezels? It looks so much better. And they should especially on the bb58 homage. I would like it on the retro dive as well.
@XjohnjohnX882 жыл бұрын
I think that's a very interesting watch. For those who can't afford the San Martin (like me), it's seems to be a very good option. The indices are too small and the hands too thin in my opinion. But I still like it ! Thanks for the great review, Steve. Always a pleasure to watch your videos 👍
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Agree about it being a decent alternative to the San Martin.
@stephenhuber10792 жыл бұрын
Concerning the bezel, I think the hangup is where the spring starts and hooks to the case. Its a nice tidy looking watch. I like the size and that color blue is outstanding. I would look for a new SS steel bracelet and clasp for it. Possibly a nice watch to mod slightly if there are parts in its size. Cool review, Steve. Thanks!
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Stephen! And I think so too on the bezel...but who knows
@SteveFWatches2 жыл бұрын
Love this dial especially on those NATOS. Waiting for a v2 where they fix the rivet for the micro adjustment
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how they missed that after the San Martin fiasco...lol. Thank for watching, man 👊
@cadisen2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review.After C8206&C8207 come to market,we are trying to collect many customer's feel. Because it is really important for us. Try to be better,try to be change better.Thank you so much help us know the problem and good things.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
wow, thank you for watching and taking feedback. this was a really good first attempt. I think you could easily fix most of the issues with this.
@LymanPhillips2 жыл бұрын
You don't really need to do much to this watch except execute the details better (you also have to fix the bracelet). But if you fixed the bracelet, added more lume and anti-rrflective on the crystal, and maybe bumped up the size of the applied indices and sold it closer to $140, you'd have a winner here! The colors are amazing.
@cadisen2 жыл бұрын
@@LymanPhillips Thank you for your suggestions,we've noted them. Anti-rrflectivee on crystal is really a good point.
@BCallum2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I call this watch a 3 footer. Looks amazing at 3 feet...Too many others in this pricepoint to consider this one. Cheers from Atlantic Canada!!!
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Haha, good way to put it. Side by side with the San Martin SN004 and it's pretty apparent they are on different levels.
@BCallum2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel with my extensive San Martin experience, I'd agree. I am down to 4 SMs in my collection...adding in Borealis, Canister, RLG, etc to make it a bit more rounded out.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
@@BCallum nice to see Canister in there. They asked if I Wanted to review one of their watches recently....looks like a nice piece 👍
@BCallum2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel well built. I want to make a comment about what I think they should have done better, but I don't want to sway your opinion. It's one of my favorite pieces. Well built. Looks amazing!. I got it in white.
@xamineh Жыл бұрын
I have one and the bracelet is crap. Two days after adjusting the bracelet (and making sure all screws are tight) the watch went flying mode. One of the screws was loose and the bracelet opened, launching the watch above my head. What did I do? I was just scratching my head and this happened!
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
Always a good idea to keep some blue locktite around for bracelet screws. I didn't have the problem with that watch, but I've had it with other, more expensive, watches.
@JogieGlenMait162 жыл бұрын
is this like the same size as the skx013? if yes, then this might be the thing i'm looking for
@scatterbrain94902 жыл бұрын
Blue strap looked good
@rumcajs0092 жыл бұрын
Nice watch but I had Orient Kamasu for 184 Euro on Amazon recently, so they must be mad charging 171 Euro for that.
@barreltech8949 Жыл бұрын
I have mine on a two piece leather but noticed that the lug holes are pretty close to the edge of the lugs, have you noticed any security issue while wearing it?
@georgepolyakov77322 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I have the san martin sn004 (non limited edition) and one thing I kinda wish san martin did was a matte ceramic or an aluminum bezel insert to make it look more vintage. Do you know if this bezel insert would fit?
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I have no idea. This bezel quality isn't up to San Martins quality, though...it would stick out in a bad way
@TheMacbu8 ай бұрын
Very nice, i like it! Good review, thanks a lot. 🙂
@phillipowen50382 жыл бұрын
Just ordered on Ali express Nov sale, got this for £87 including the customs charge, so happy with that 😀
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Solid price indeed 👊👍
@dunderhay91692 жыл бұрын
I really like this, the San Martin is great but very expensive. Lume doesn't worry me too much, so I think all the serious problems are with the bracelet. I would buy it on rubber and save £28, at £100 it looks great value and if the bezel is off I can reposition it.
@Unwoken_European2 жыл бұрын
Mate, san martin is not that expensive. During the sales you could get them for 1/3 of the price they give as the maximum price.
@Assault01372 жыл бұрын
This is a bit sad because I see it as a big missed opportunity. That goof with the micro adjust is big enough to make it a no-go for me, but add on the mismatched end links and the bezel misalignment and it just cements that decision. I know if I had bought that exact example they sent you, I’d be feeling major buyers remorse. I really like the design and price point, but the execution just isn’t there. Perhaps on the V2…
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Enough to make it a no-go for a lot of people. Probably worth skipping the bracelet until they fix that.
@michaelplantus19992 жыл бұрын
I feel very similar! V2plz
@danspanos2 жыл бұрын
The San Martin is polished as well, so they were probably copying them. It's my least favorite part of my SN004. Great review as always bro!
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dan. What polishing are you talking about? 😂
@Andydydy2819 Жыл бұрын
I’m planning replace the dial. Do you know the size of it ? I hope its 28.5-29mm 😬
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
I don't know for sure, but I'd guess it's 28.5mm
@Andydydy2819 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, love your vids😎
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
@@Andydydy2819 I appreciate it, man. 🤜🤛
@drewmcvey2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a decent option overall, not entirely sure I would pick one up. But seems like a good value for the retro diver type watch.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Indeed a good value when purchased on sale.
@paulandrews76222 жыл бұрын
Looks like they get their lume from the same supplier as Pagani Design lol. That bezel alignment is tragic as well. Shame because it's a nice looking watch. Great review as always.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Lol, very similar indeed ....thanks for watching, Paul
@michaelplantus19992 жыл бұрын
All original black please! Be nice to do some better colour options as I feel the particular color combinations, particularly having only gilt and all bezels color matched to dial is different but imho I think majority may want more original color options and at the price I'm sure would be a tiny tweak that would make for a lot more sales and happy customer as I know I'd go for a original black on black or a blue on blue with normal stainless steel polished or black hands in a heart beat. V2 Please!!👌👍🥇
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
We can always hope 🤞
@bifflee36032 жыл бұрын
I like this watch, wish the hands were a fraction bigger though
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Same. Not a huge deal, but slightly larger would have been good
@antonyreyn2 жыл бұрын
Looks gud value shame they didnt do a 3 6 9 dial variant like San Martin offered. Cheers
@johndudley5761 Жыл бұрын
Dues it's have bloom ?
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
I don't understand? If you mean lume? Yes, just not great
@rsg5850 Жыл бұрын
This or pagani 1671?
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
They are VERY different in size. I'd base my decision off that. Pagani is 42mm, this is 38mm. About the same quality
@michaelplantus19992 жыл бұрын
Also take out the rivets and if lucky add a tapper to 16 or 18 if possible as it really adds elegance and comfort also if the bezel writing stays white or neutral and is not matched to the dial and majority Hands to stay brushed or polished and not gilt unless it really makes sense and stays reserved for a certain one or two models at most. Keep it simple and imho and from the response I am certain if those minor adjustments are made this would be a real contender and possible champion at the respective catagory!! If those corrections are made I will 1000% pick one up as well as Many others IMHO!!
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
I know I'd buy one!
@stavros_katsopr2 жыл бұрын
If someone around me has my sense of humor must put rivets on my coffin when i die. That much i despise them. Not to mention mercedes hour hand! 😜😂 Still, i like this retro dial and bezel, gilded marks/hands and blue on this steel case are pretty nice. Black dial looks nice too. Size is fine. Price... not! Cheers Steve, thanks for the review, be well mate.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
I saw someone say 171 eu, that's nuts...but I saw it for like $85 USD that's a pretty good price for this thing. Guess it all depends on location.
@stavros_katsopr2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel In EU the final price on bracelet is 171+, don't know if we can kindly ask to take out some rivets... maybe the price goes down then! 😂😂
@panchoskywalker2 жыл бұрын
Are they working on a 20/16 bracelet for v2?
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Doubtful. Just fixing the endlink as far as I know
@commentjedi2 жыл бұрын
If its NH35, that would be awsome!! because it looks like the 28.5mm dials would work in this watch, which is generic enough to take a bunch of dial styles.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
It is an NH35. Good call, didn't even think of dial swaps
@LCMNUNES19622 жыл бұрын
EXCELENTE RELÓGIO 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 🇧🇷
@KH-xf6yl2 жыл бұрын
Whats the original for this?
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
Rolex submariner from the 50's.
@KH-xf6yl2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel Thx the Dr. No I guess ? But of course with the patina coloured bezel.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
@@KH-xf6yl correct
@RafaelOliveira-kk6rk Жыл бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@kostependrhs2 жыл бұрын
Nice color, nice size. 171eu is too much for what it is. Should be around 71eu. And NO, not this terrible clasp again! You can kill a person using this clasp.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
171 euro is kinda crazy.... definitely not worth that. That's what it comes to after VAT? That's crazy
@stavros_katsopr2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel What's more crazy is that they (customs, etc etc) may charge you extra on that! You never know, plus it's kind of hard to sort it out if it happens... Been telling you so Steve, that's the way it is here.
@EscapeWheel2 жыл бұрын
@@stavros_katsopr y'all need to move to the States 😂🤪. Joking of course
@stavros_katsopr2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel Why don't you move out of there.... ooops! sorry, you did already! All over the world indeed!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣