Caedrel Reacts To T1 Experiencing DDoS Attacks Again & Nemesis' Thoughts On 2025 Season

[@RandomDPAP]

All DDoS attacks lead to me -T1 Faker

[@xmorose]

haha its like afunny jok! +

[@_xYuk1]

Faker: 6th trophy is for Riot to fix the DDoS

[@theladyhokage150]

Imagine Ddos-ing T1 all 2024 and they still win worlds. Like leave my boys alone damn lol

[@UnityFog]

Naaah fk t1

[@SlaneKnight]

🤡​@@UnityFog

[@teddanville6996]

Nah, if you don’t ddos them they gonna win worlds even quicker. Riot made T1 to be the villain of the League of Legends pro scene (rewatch worlds mv), no wonder people try to nerf T1 anyway they can.

[@spadesx_]

T1's Worlds Buff is real. it's crazy how well they do. even if they don't win, they still make Semis/Finals. some teams just dream of getting to Semis. but regardless, imagine being so salty they DDoS them all year just for them to win Worlds again. DDoS started in 2023, won back to back.

[@Kreicyy]

@@UnityFog sad bum, its not out fault you’re a failure and no one loved you😂

[@Are2-Dee2]

T1 didn't get DDOSd in Dec because they were barely playing any league on stream. Whenever they streamed league again, the attacks started intermittently, targeting their solo q teammates. As to whose responsibility this is to fix? I mean, obv it's Riot. What's more. This clearly shows thats all our data is fully vulnerable too no? Is there no discussion on the broader implications of this?

[@oskargorka3332]

Riot Games is unable to fully prevent DDoS attacks targeting teammates of T1 in solo queue because such attacks often exploit vulnerabilities in network infrastructure outside Riot's direct control. They could try some measures, but addressing this type of threat requires broader cooperation at a global level, involving internet service providers and other platforms.

[@guimauves6374]

@@oskargorka3332is it the world’s fault if riot cant make a client that doesnt leak the player’s IP with all that revenue?

[@johnkirk1772]

@@oskargorka3332 is it? the DDoS is almost instantaneous, you can identify T1 players by play style and champ pool etc outside of riots control? fine BUT how do they get the IP of teammates within seconds and get to take down their connection? they have to have a way of immediately linking the riot accounts of teammates to their IPs to attack vulnerabilities in their point of contact to the server - in other words there has to be a vulnerability within riots servers...

[@Masterpouya]

China is the only one that can solve this. Such a high firepower, consistantly is china and they are legit opponents of T1 during worlds so...

[@oskargorka3332]

​@@johnkirk1772 In KR it's way diff. You have connected riot account to your personal data. Hackers with alot of experience can easily connect that to your ips. So in a simplification, the personal data connected to your riot id's (the same data that connects to buyin internal serive such as Internet by Telecommunication Service Agreement) is the problem here.

[@koreanlego]

The thing about ddos these days is that it's not ddosing the t1 players. Rather, ddos disconnects the teammates while t1 players are streaming, which was the reason why t1 players couldn't stream at all last year.

[@elizezuma]

👆 not only affects the pros, but also the other players. Those who have no idea about ddos actually thinks their internet has a connection problem tsk tsk

[@Masterpouya]

They don't DDOS T1 directly beacause T1 equipped themselves with powerful infrastructures to avoid that, but their teamates are just random people and are ... exposed.

[@chuckleberrypi]

23:45 Caedrel's ideas about Atakan & map clutter. I really like the idea of giving more emphasis to atakan in a way that involves the map like with the dragons. really cool idea 29:00 that schedule is insane dude! you don't have time to SLEEP/EAT, co-stream, coach LR, play LoL yourself, AND do variety. let variety be special occasion, or like every other week. his manager needs to help him figure out some balance

[@choiyoungsu7249]

Surely Riot has a way to fix the DDoS problem, right? Like you have the biggest Esports community in history, with possibly the most influential Esports super star of all time and you cannot fix some people sitting at home figuring out people's IPs' through the stupid client that they created...

[@ttuttunamezaki4644]

i think its really hard coz not only they're attackig the t1 players, they also attack the players on soloqueue with them that's why they can't stream. plus they will also get attack both t1 players and their teammates even when they're not streaming. they can snipe that they are playing in spectate or something. that's why riot put a bounty on it coz they can't do anything about it.

[@choiyoungsu7249]

​@@ttuttunamezaki4644 I see your point, but this remains a significant security issue for Riot. It’s been a whole year, and people can still spectate games and uncover everyone’s IPs. This isn’t just a “Oh, let’s put a bounty on it.” kind of problem. Even if they have to change a big chunk of how the client works or whatever IMO they should be doing that and doing it fast.

[@Masterpouya]

Riot put a 100.000k bounty for whoever helps them solve that ddos problem. Pretty sure they don't know how to solve it.

[@dissidius13]

​@@Masterpouyasmall indie company 😂

[@aikun9098]

Multi billion cunpany is just tiny lil guy

[@Pottan23]

T1 has triggered all of china, they'll keep ddosing til lpl wins against them 😂

[@SzeleR]

LPL gonna DDoS whole korean server xD

[@zotti1696]

But there is now a big discussion about it even in Korea, because the problem only relates to Korea itself. If T1 is in Korea, then the DDoS attacks start, if they are outside the country, then nothing happens. This has led to the LCK and Riot Korea being openly pilloried within the e-sports scene in Korea. So the question arises as to why it should be the Chinese who are behind the attacks if even the Koreans are already moving away from this and suspecting the originator in their own country?

[@notmetho906]

@@zotti1696 its the chinese, always will. stop spreading fake news

[@Frandahab]

Literally Riot is the only ones responsible and they are the only pnes that can fix it.

[@Loc123cool]

They cant

[@Frandahab]

@Loc123cool because they are incompetent

[@Rabadon-fm7iy]

@@Frandahabif you say they can fix it, can you at least say how they can fix it. its really easy to say "they are incompetent" while also not contributing to any part of the solution

[@Frandahab]

@@Rabadon-fm7iy It's not my job to do so, not only because I'm not a Riot employee but also because it would be literally impossible to diagnose without looking at their back-end directly. But what I can say is that a company of their size (billion dollar corporation) having servers vulnerable to ddosing in 2025 is shameful, in my memory this was a thing in the early 2010s at most, and the games that had troubles with this (notably CS for example) all fixed the vulnersbility forever ago. Nowadays basically every online service is at the very least very resistant to this type of attack, and would require an immense mobilization the likes of whic the T1 attackers certainly do not have

[@Rabadon-fm7iy]

@ "fix it, you're incompetent, oh, you want me to say how to fix it, thats not my job and its impossible for me to know" then dont speak at all goofy

[@jordansrhoads]

I wonder how many more season resets/starts it's gonna take for people like Nemesis to realize Riot's design philosophy for these changes is "Throw whatever ideas you have at the wall no matter how broken and just fix it at a later date." They don't playtest anything because that would cost them time and money. They would much rather make their players test and suffer for them instead...

[@mikezheng33]

You're wrong. They have the PBE to play test for free and see problems. They're just incompetent

[@l_Tungus_l]

yep, unfortunately Nemesis have child mindset

[@oliverjenner9251]

⁠​⁠@@l_Tungus_lhow is it a child mindset?? Nemesis is rightfully angry at having to deal with and learn all this new bs because he has to because he will have to play professional games on it

[@voryia]

Or nemesis is just a little cry baby

[@greenhat7618]

Riot’s client is leaking IP how is that not their fault

[@dissidius13]

😂😂😂

[@dissidius13]

😂😂😂

[@MrDaviiss]

how do you know that

[@greenhat7618]

@@MrDaviiss when t1 blocked the ddos through their isp the teammates in their solo queue games get ddosed instead, so it has to be through riot’s client or else i cant think of a way these ddosers can just find the ip of the teammates every time a new game starts

[@Nightmarezzz-qh2zr]

Custom Korea Riot anti cheat was leaked and sold in 2023. After that whenever T1 streams they DDoS the teammates of T1 since they are easier to attack, as home networks compared to T1 and KR Riot servers. To prevent this you need all the ISP in Korea to coordinate together to track down and redirect the attacks, without Government’s help this is really hard.

[@bait6571]

They have a different anticheat?

[@Nightmarezzz-qh2zr]

@bait6571 yea its named “Demacia”

[@AARCDIUTP]

@@bait6571presumably because to have a riot account in Korea you need to bind your Korean equivalent of a social security number

[@AinS_Sama]

LPL fans just gonna keep ddosing T1 till a LPL team wins world

[@chetrasok3336]

the changes in the new patch is already advantageous for LPL teams: faster game, more incentive to fight, more snowball, no comeback, more incentive to brainrot Kamikaze dive (bcuz of Atakhan's GA buff).

[@PappiiKim123]

@@chetrasok3336you guys say that every year just to get clapped by lck

[@zotti1696]

But there is now a big discussion about it even in Korea, because the problem only relates to Korea itself. If T1 is in Korea, then the DDoS attacks start, if they are outside the country, then nothing happens. This has led to the LCK and Riot Korea being openly pilloried within the e-sports scene in Korea. So the question arises as to why it should be the Chinese who are behind the attacks if even the Koreans are already moving away from this and suspecting the originator in their own country?

[@Miata-gp5bp]

​@@PappiiKim123 TBF it's just T1. The rest of lck struggle against top lpl teams. And if this October/november T1 isn't in top condition LPL stands a good chance.

[@animevolution880]

Just to talk about the schedule situations, Going from a 6 -> 9 game scrim with better breaks in between is 10x better just from a simple sports perspective. You increase your training output by 50% already by having 3 more games, then you have breaks in between the games, giving you better possibilities of afterwork activities (analysis / comprehension ect) The one 5 game block is so terrible for a pro sports perspective

[@oliverjenner9251]

Idea for Atakhan revive: the first player to die stays as is but if another player dies then they get a half/third death timer and so on. It would be strong but would mean you can’t run it as 5 without being punished

[@alberthwang5196]

They can try to encrypt it and/or hide the data. For whatever reason the IP addresses are surfacing really easily. That seems to be a client side security issue.

[@ARK-jj1ue]

Atakhan should make dragon hide like theyre scared of him

[@cubancavalier3051]

the game is just made to go faster and faster. faster to lane, minions kill faster, more exp, more damage. everything is just accelerating the game pace to pure aram levels

[@christiansvenjimmiekarlsso1876]

I like that, watching a game going to to 35 40 minutes all time.. or even worse, 40+min in soloqueue, i want a game to be 25 min ish, like before, fast paced non stop action. if i want a slowgoing game, there are mmos xD

[@zenonmarian]

@@christiansvenjimmiekarlsso1876 wth, most competitive games ends around 25 mins, rarely you can see elder

[@Rncko]

@@christiansvenjimmiekarlsso1876 Stacking champs (Veig, Nasus) : 💀

[@mykko_0856]

what if they put atakahan in the coves instead of the river and put like more paths into it so that its not like a funnel and there is more flanks or escape routes (only the side that spawns atakahan)

[@samagrabarnwal]

24:37 this take is actually pretty pog. Would love to see this happen

[@Brick726]

tbh esport fans need to develop asap. In regular Sports the fans are not blocking the way to the training facilitis . idk why but esport fans are crazy human beings. Imgaine something similiar would happen to Real Madrid or Barcelona. They need to track down those people and arrest them for trolling.

[@RainNT]

They need to make atakhan spawn at the side lane alcoves, when it spawns it changes the whole area around the alcove to make it bigger! Cause at the end of each river looks so weird. If they spawn on the alcoves, it will make the game more clear and open instead of having that awkward block clutter in the river where dragon/herald/baron will spawn. Have it spawn at 20 mins and despawn at 25 mins so teams will have to fight for it if they want the buff. This will make more use of the alcove area and more easily accessible and create an unique objective in a side lane.

[@darkumineru1681]

18:51 can you end 5 man without wave with 6 grubs and atakan? has the grubs tank 2 hits each so maybe?

[@sanhakim1335]

Depends how strong the team is. You can end as 5 man with no grubs or atakan if you're strong enough

[@SupemeatmAn]

doesnt the ddosing come from the leaked anti cheat thez are using which u were able to use to find the IP of the plazers through?

[@oliversotir3914]

It all likely originates from the Social Engineering hack from over two years ago, which later lead to the uncovering of the unique Anti-Cheat system that is only used in Korea, which was later used as a way to by-pass their security measures and institute vicious DDoS attacks.

[@ralfjade6229]

iirc that theory has been disproved

[@miantava]

Is your Y key broken? 😂

[@SupemeatmAn]

@@miantava zes

[@orib.]

honestly i think atakhan spawing in the middle of mid lane would be fire

[@darkumineru1681]

2:40 and new season too will take time to change with homeguard and so on

[@KalunJiaLin]

Lvl 16 Quinn traveling faster than TP from base is some impressive design flaw. As an OTP Quinn, I’m all for it!

[@darkumineru1681]

11:22 give the team where EVERYONE has bounty get a bounty is stupid...

[@SteamySnuggler]

"How did he get the same headset" Amazon, probably.

[@doomskull9509]

It feels like adding these objectives just makes the game more one dimensional, a good team can no longer do something outside of going for the objectives as losing the objective will just be instant gg. No trading of towers etc...

[@ComaDoccYT]

20:23 so basically Caedrel, if they remove half of the stuff they implemented in the new season it'll be better? Lmao Riot really tried to fly too close to the Sun this time around

[@nguyenn7729]

Should see ARAM bounty system. You gain less gold relative to enemy team when play well and go on killstreak.

[@alainpardillo4113]

Honestly, Them not using the alcoves as the spawn point for atakhan is such a waste of opportunity.

[@m.elhaj.98]

26:06 thats actually very smart

[@coupdegracetm5090]

why not have a streamer mode or something where all names are randoms so they cant easily find them no?

[@miruajin6448]

i guess riot really got no staff left... freak soloing the whole company. shoulda made the map bigger for the new obj

[@michaelluczak9264]

all the objectives should not stack of eachother, otherwise you are screwed once you lose any of them or pick a scaling comp

[@nonameimpotantlive9233]

damn GA effect True death when u die u fkn die and get Respawn timer and invunerblity can leave to

[@Ikarus1704]

Can someone rent truck to riot HQ?

[@GabrieleLazzati]

Change provider ffs, get a good cloud service

[@lovelyn2947]

Attention Riot!!! Solve the DDoS! It’s frustrating!!!!!😤😤😤😤😤

[@zai2708]

That buff is so disgusting. They can run it down without getting punished.

[@rishchoi3473]

they need new IT director 🙄

[@Lookatthisguy0017]

Canon event 😂

[@saint5684]

please use noise gate

[@hotaru8228]

what about cassio

[@Lookatthisguy0017]

At this point, just DDos everyone. So it fair

[@dragonslayervt]

Honestly at this point I'm convinced that the DDoS attacks are the result of someone who works at their streaming platform. T1 has had documented DDoS attacks not only in Korea but in EU at worlds too. it's also entirely possible that it's a T1 or Riot employee that is leaking the IP addresses. I think at this point since the attacks are extremely targeted it's very unlikely that its an actual client bug or we would be seeing a lot more of these style of attacks against other teams.

[@lightlylani]

it's not T1 players themselves who are directly attacked (T1 has strengthened their network), but rather their teammates in soloq who got disconnected and forcing T1 members to play 5v4. therefore, it's the fact that it is possible for hackers to get everybody's IP addresses that's the problem.

[@dissidius13]

Riot has access to all the player's IP. That Vanguard thing also checks all your files in your PC. They literally have access to everything where that game is installed. CCP game as how other people call it.

[@dragonslayervt]

@@dissidius13 what's most bizarre is that vanguard didn't affect specifically the T1 DDoS attacks but seemly fixed everyone else's. Which means that the suspect likely never used the original IP grabbing method. But if they had a backdoor exploit like this why haven't they tried to sell it to anyone like we've seen from previous groups? this behavior is what I find fishy normally at this point I would suspect it being a rouge employee at riot doing it but it would have to be someone with admin access to the Korean and EU servers

[@dragonslayervt]

@@lightlylani right I forgot about that. then that likely rules out the streaming platform. the next suspect would be riot games themselves weather it's a lone employee or compromised system(they suffered a major breach in 2023). it's still possible that it's a zero day exploit but considering only T1 still sees frequent attacks pos vanguard I'm inclined to think differently. If it was a zero day the DDoS problem would be more wide spread

[@Wooley-lol]

Caedrel: I like the new patch, except the map, tp, atakhan and boots. that is the whole patch bro

[@daweiatplay]

Aram only, BASED XDD 😂

[@SherifNeamatalla]

If you're really giving us feats of str. in SoloQ, change early ff to 7-10 min, tyvm

[@Leah_Newton]

To anti-DDoS, all you need is MS-DOS, so I heard 😂

[@matteoalberghini3816]

phreak is doing better and better dont fire this idiot dw riot

[@HarumiYu]

I would play the map from 2012 if they let me but not this colorless lazy burned vegetation map, jesus christ first time knowing about it was with this video.

[@nilsschuler]

I feel like Atakhan should have spawned in Nash pit for top side heavy games, and drake pit for bot side heavy games, and all other objectives are put on hold whilst he is alive

[@mheekkim2901]

Riot can't or won't fix DDOS? or should I say Tencent won't? Chinese need to man up and just play fairly. actually I just realized how stupid 'fair' and 'Chinese' in the same sentence sounds like.

[@Stebi18]

Caedrel will get a burnout at the end of the year😢 Please be careful with your mental health

[@Jimmy-oq3mt]

SUP SUP

[@RussianSpy4632]

DongHuap made a really good documentary on why specifically DDoSing in Korea is an issue and nowhere else in the world

[@db.1304]

I don't mind the TP changes, hate how its basically a must take summoner and so much revolves around the spell, I wouldn't mind if it got deleted from game.

[@dylansmith6078]

Nah they just needed better sums. Tbh. Like ghost is so inferior to flash and heal is so inferior to ghost they need to get more sums to the power of flash so we can have variety. Unless you play 3 specific champs if you dont take flash ur trolling and reported

[@withern2956]

Every single champion takes flash, every game has a flash in it. They should remove it with how important it is

[@hurtmei6420]

​@@withern2956 would removing flash make the game more fun/better? I don't think so personally atleast. It makes dashes than can go over walls too powerful because if you don't have one to follow, they always get away for free.

[@db.1304]

​@@withern2956 Sure why not? I'd miss some of the outplays but it sucks that its basically mandatory.

[@dejvoznik]

when i posted on pedropeepos like month ago about me not liking the new mp and all the arcane stuff in league new tp how viktor looks i was downvoted and told that iam just hater, someone who hates new stuff and that it is only visuals game is same

[@numeritos1799]

Yeah that's a classic lmao. You need followers in order to complain

[@dylansmith6078]

The new patch is so terrible I'm lvl 2137 and it so bad I am even considering not playing im cooked bro

[@TheRealCowlick]

First half of season is always cooked

[@SherifNeamatalla]

You're gonna play and so will I and we both know it but, it does suck ass

[@Richardlizhu]

I feel like people were clamoring for a long time about like bringing back the winter map, but now that there's a map change people are complaining

[@dylansmith6078]

Winter map was good this is shit 😂

[@Richardlizhu]

@@dylansmith6078 I can see why people would think that, but like, before they released the winter map they wouldnt know right? I feel like we gotta take the good with the bad. They're at least experimenting with new maps again

[@AzureFides]

Can’t you really understand that wanting the winter map back for new year isn’t the same as wanting a new map each season? And just because we like the idea doesn’t mean we have to accept any result and can’t criticize them at all.

[@Richardlizhu]

@@AzureFides No I do understand that, and that's probably close to how I personally feel too, but I remember they said there was some technical reason they couldnt just "bring back" the winter map? Like I agree I probably like this map worse than the base, but probably experimentation will result in roughly 30% better, 30% worse, and 30% roughly the same

[@esportsprodigybuhanil933]

faker washed

[@owennen]

☝🤓

[@esportsprodigybuhanil933]

@@owennen

[@pogomais]

16 years old game, can't hide IP XD Real state of devs today

[@Kreicyy]

lol, its mostly the Lpl losers who tries and ddos them.