Battle of the bend ep.1- 805lb/365kg on a deadlift bar vs Stiff bar (conventional)

So this is Just one comparison of bar bending. This is a deadlift bar with competition plates vs a stiff bar with Gym plates(LB plates) There will be more comparisons like this one in the future. There are many examples to match up. This is just what I did for this video!
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[@toxtv8161]

This man started talking to us while holding 700lbs

[@cailerwoolam]

I literally did that just to be funny 😂 it wasn't even necessary

[@goatofdeparture]

when he did that bruh , I started dying

[@counterculturecoaching2837]

I was wondering if I was the only person who noticed that LOL.

[@cailerwoolam]

I'm happy yall noticed it. 😂

[@MrSocialish]

@@cailerwoolam Hahaha I noticed that! I was wondering if you were gonna say anything worth while, and you were just like, "I'm trying to see how it feels to make an observation". That was hilarious hahaha

[@willmakk]

*"You're not getting much out of a deadlift bar lifting under 600lbs."* Cool, won't have to worry about that one.

[@timheinlein7230]

Big mood

[@thatoneguy8493]

Willmakk right. Like ever hahaha

[@lh1690]

My bar is only rated to 600lbs.

[@TotallyVeracious]

removed deadlift bar from Rogue cart

[@patman4917]

@@TotallyVeracious lol

[@hunterberrong3489]

Can we get the comparison with 950 on each bar? Just so your average day to day viewer can better relate

[@cailerwoolam]

Hell no. I ain't deadlifting 950 any time soon. It takes me awhile to build up to that lol.

[@ewouthagdorn7872]

may we can ask eddie hall to do a side by side comparions at 1102 lbs on each bar? that'd be something we could all relate to. ;)

[@timheinlein7230]

Yeah. Probably need to see the 950 competition plates stiff bar comparison to 950 deadlift bar with bumper plates larry wheels style duct taped and resistance banded on to the ends after running out of bar space

[@GR-uc1gq]

Lol I think he was being sarcastic

[@benaquilina6640]

Ewout Hagdorn Eddie wouldn’t be able to do 1100 on stiff bar let alone with out straps and deadlift suit

[@SkaptorZ]

500lbs is about the average range... that kinda hurt my feelings man

[@wolfspritzer9253]

yeah lol i felt like a beast after i pulled 470 for 5, guess i'm just your average casual lifter.

[@wolfspritzer9253]

@@JustSomeGuy69420 yeah rippetoe annoys the shit out of me.

[@SabrinaStronger]

Truth Hurts When it Stabs Deep

[@moustaphabalde7581]

@@wolfspritzer9253 your max is prolly 500 or more with 470 for 5

[@zachnunya8749]

Brandon Hewitt well said.

[@ryanstrohman7429]

3:48 500 lb average deadlift Dude have you stepped into a commercial gym hehe

[@MrJosh6889]

He's not around us normies. That is pretty average with the people he's around.

[@jrmayun]

hahaha shit man

[@Ryan_2112]

More like 365 is average lol. From what i see.

[@Dizzydawne]

315 😂

[@Dizzydawne]

At my gym it’s typical to see 717 lbs deadlifted, but it’s a powerlifting gym so of course 😂

[@theamateurpowerlifter]

who pulls 600, 700, and 800 twice to demo bar whip....

[@slippery3799]

A prophet

[@bluesstinger1975]

"Some people are dying to lift 500lbs and this guy is rowing it for reps" - i remember this quote coming from Mark Bell when you were over at his gym showing them your accessory exercises......as always good video and knowledge

[@wolfspritzer9253]

lol he can probably row 500 lol.

[@ziguy7883]

Wolf Spritzer he did row 500 lol I think a little more then 500 for reps!

[@teasippingguy9316]

Larry Wheels could probably do 900 lbs for reps

[@wolfspritzer9253]

@@teasippingguy9316 nah Cailer dead is more than larrys, sumo but it is still more.

[@teasippingguy9316]

@@wolfspritzer9253 Larry could do more... the speed is there, the strengh too. It's only his mind that doesn't really want to lift 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@hspwr3521]

Cailer the type of dude to chalk up and use ammonia before he goes on a date.

[@cailerwoolam]

Auto correct will often change "cailer"to "caller"

[@thedominomaster101]

I'm not sure if we'll ever find out if this is true

[@hspwr3521]

Lol fixed it.

[@tonybarfridge4369]

hspwr sprung 😬😂

[@cailerwoolam]

Guys. Just to clarify..This was strictly a comparison between the deadlift bar with calibrated plates vs a stiff bar with gym plates for a conventional deadlift only. Nothing else! I mention this in the video!

[@parkersullivan6372]

Hilarious how you have to explain “this is my video, if you want to share a different opinion go make your own video” lmao!

[@jackmacaulay]

wow, today i learned that I have the exact same shaft length as an eleiko bar

[@MrVOiDCreations]

why am i watching this when i can only deadlift 365 lmao

[@auesviritiusmilveresta2449]

Why am I even alive if I can only deadlift 275?

[@maustian]

Why am I alive if I can only deadlift 260

[@ShayanGivehchian]

Same dude. My max is like 320 lol.

[@miv_cleric]

405 and it's no better

[@joshstane5926]

285 deadlift at 145. Yet here we all are lol

[@samivey8416]

I enjoyed this. Can see a huge difference in the higher weight. And good endurance to you Dr. DEADLIFT

[@DrStevenHorwitz]

As an older (58) , smaller lifter (5'8", 170 lbs) I train with a stiff bar. At a meet, the deadlift bar is much easier for me to hold as the 1.5-2.0 mm makes a big grip difference. I really notice the flex in the bar over 315 and at 500 it "feels" easier than the stiff bar. Thank you for all your great videos!!

[@NickWright]

The Ohio deadlift bar is also the stiffest deadlift bar of deadlift bars. Awesome video!

[@JSheetzArtwork]

Cailer is not only a powerlifter but he is also a rapper. He droppin bars on us all day, deadlift bars, eleiko bars. (waiting on the cailer rap album)

[@mconcepcion752]

You and SsjBob inspired me to surpass what I thought was possible for myself. My original goal when I started out was 315. I didn't think my small frame and "weak genetics" would allow me to do much more than that. It seemed surreal, and nearly out of my potential. Thanks to you guys I don't let my 'weak genetics' hold me back anymore. Did 385Ibs on deadlift and 405 is on the horizon. When I hit 500Ibs I'll make a video to show ya! Any other small guys out there, just keep going. You will be surprised how far you can actually go.

[@FRYSMASH]

I remember my first powerlifting meet. My max deadlift at home that I felt like I could hit any day of the week was 405 with my super thick, super stiff budget barbell so I made that my opener. Comp used an ohio deadlift bar and 405 felt like 350. My third attempt was successful with 455 and I still felt like I had lots in the tank and regretted not going heavier.

[@chadcorber6399]

So much quality content lately :')

[@SNOWBOARDZ]

Great vid! Another cool idea would be to try to find the way to get the most whip possible. Like bumpers with 100s on the outside.

[@MrBollox79]

Thank you Doctor!

[@rmt430]

Honestly, this is awesome. People love to argue with me that stiffy feels harder than a deadlift bar when I say they feel pretty much the same where I'm pulling now in the mid-upper six hundreds. The width of the bar with hook grip I think really is the most compelling difference I've heard from smaller people, since they sometimes can't grab a stiff bar securely but can a deadlift bar.

[@simpleh8885]

Great video as always. Hope seeing you pull 1000 lbs sumo and 900 conventional one day.

[@rickyspanish5316]

Dr D, please write me prescription for sick shoulder gains.

[@LaKeRsOvErCeLtIcS]

Dr. Deadlift did it so we dont have to! Thank you for your sacrifice sir'

[@GIboy1990]

I feel a difference between the two for anything after 4 plates.

[@666BIGBLOCK]

Thanks for doing this. Very interesting. I’d been wondering.

[@MattePurple1]

Homie looks waaayy too slender to pull 700+. That's crazy, mad respect.

[@Nachos4Bros]

He does 900+, best deadlifter in the world man

[@allenroy9250]

Matt you see how lumpy rippled and wide his back is without his shirt on ?

[@Lordoftheswollen]

What's crazy is he still benches mid 400s with those long ass arms.

[@banditdawgs]

Next up elephant bar video lol

[@mikalokasso]

It's great content, and it's also the best rant I've seen in a long while haha

[@harrisashraff]

Pulling the lifetime Goal of many Deadlifter's just for a demonstration purpose tells how savage he is. Really an inspiration.

[@jmac6973]

dude, you're the man. thanks for this awesome video.

[@cailerwoolam]

Thanks dude! I had a lot of fun making it

[@stevesedgwick5789]

Amazing strength Cailer, messing about with 800lbs, like it is warm up 😀👍

[@Rocket4ce]

Bro your form is perfect. Hell yeah! Freakn beast mode.

[@Floridamanknowsbestt]

If 500 lbs range is average, then I am wayyyyy behind lol. Looks like I have back day for the next few years

[@bluesstinger1975]

You and me both

[@alessio7375]

c mon 500lbs are warm up i do that for over 12reps

[@alessio7375]

@David A it's 440, with dead stop u need glasses tho, do even know what touch n go is?

[@a.f-body1vids655]

BEAST! Great video!

[@roselelouch3038]

I really enjoyed this video and loved how you did the comparison on the same day and stuff

[@eduardm228]

He said average weight is 500! Lol what gym do you go to ? I can barely do 300 lol

[@Sweetmawmaw]

Jason Blaha will probably make a 10 minute video talking about this

[@LaszloBencze]

This was darned impressive lifting. Just looking at him, you'd never guess he could deadlift 600 much less 800. Clearly he is a superb athlete.

[@vitaliyvorobets2738]

LaszloBencze he’s done 950+ before

[@eatingcontestchamp20]

4:45 Is that mixed grip? Cailer, I’m shook.

[@A1M8E7]

Angela Chang good catch

[@josephpaige3614]

Interesting comparisson. I'll bet a lot of lifters have wondered about this.

[@jasongiroux6367]

If you do a similar video you could do the work outs on separate days for (approximately) equal rest and less clean up

[@jasonmerritt4931]

Greatly appreciated. Tough work bro but you answered a question I’m sure a lot of us have had

[@ululy]

Cailer, one really cool comparison would be calibrated plates on the elieko (IPF style) with conventional vs bumpers ( or big pound plates) on the DL bar with sumo. Since your strength on the two variations being so close it would be interesting to see how big of a difference these variables can make. Obviously, none of this matters as long as it's consistent in the same comp imo.

[@michaelschwartz812]

500lb average after sarmageddon happened in the USA.

[@amadohc]

true true sarms are easy to get now

[@omgitskentyt18]

This guy deserve more subscription

[@sverigeforsberg4843]

the stiff bar makes my back a lot more sore and makes the lift almost painful, and I find its much more difficult to get speed of the floor, the deadlift bar really makes my back feel really good during and after 600+ lifts, in short love the powerbar, hate the stiff bar. Great video BTW, the only video on internet that adresses this issue.

[@PhilFitworldexposed]

Yeah i heard stiff bars can hurt peoples backs

[@roninstrength1883]

Thanks for this content! This is a great comparison

[@LatimusChadimus]

Highly highly appreciated, and intense to watch! Very informative and science is always worth the extra clean up ;)

[@buzzyranker8289]

Thanks, as I can barely lift 400 lbs I have nothing to worry about.

[@paulysworld]

Maybe there's a gym that will let you set up each bar with each set of plates. Four bars total! That'll be nice and exhausting....

[@cailerwoolam]

I'm so down for that!

[@tonybarfridge4369]

Cailer Woolam yeah u only doing singles 😅💯

[@ferna2294]

Cailer, every time I watch a new video of you, you look more and more like an ever-growing wardrobe. Keep it up, and I wish to see that 400KG deadlift at a competition in the future. Love from Argentina.

[@alanbetancourt8989]

Imagine handshaking this mans HE WOULD DESTROY YOUR HANDS

[@GIboy1990]

I think the most accurate way to represent the bar bend would to strap it to a wench with a scale using 2 straps to emulate hand placement. measure the center of the bar from the floor (11 at rest") and note how much distance the bar travels before the weight leaves the ground as well as noting the weight-in-hand at the various heights of bar travel.

[@mossoconnor4417]

I disagree Cailer, I have a lot of trouble deadlifting with a stiff bar, with a deadlift bar and kilo plates I get an easy 50lbs. Just feels so much easier off the floor which is where I’m weak. I pull around 500 on a stiff bar with gym plates and 550 with a Texas dl bar and kilos. I honestly don’t know if it would be more if I was stronger and the bar whipped more, but for my body and leverages it helps a lot even with around 450-500

[@TurnTheStoveOnBlaze]

I agree. You can easily get 50-70 pounds out of a deadlift bar. It's way smaller & longer. Taking the slack out of the bar creates an arch making the range of motion shorter for me.

[@mossoconnor4417]

CocainaBlaze Cailer is right though, I mean he did say that he felt only that much difference and it is his video, so fair enough. I think it’s really got nothing to do with ROM, and everything to do with anthropometry, for me the joint angle with just a slight raise really helps, so does building a little momentum through the slack, and I’m really a shitty deadlifter. I’m built to squat so any help I can get off the floor really counts.

[@soren8196]

Cailer your shoulders r unreal! Great video!

[@natejenny6561]

I did this exact same thing for my physics final not even a week ago 😂

[@AxelPRC]

Great video! I always wondered what difference it made. Thank you 😊

[@JSheetzArtwork]

8:16 When lifting session is over and i cant stop thinking about eating when i get home.

[@randyle4520]

Savage beast ! Plz do 1000 lb pull +

[@lilbabygoated]

I'm assuming the deadlift bar is more useful for sumo? Conventional pullers usually struggle with lockout, the lockout is still technically the same with a deadlift bar except you get more speed at the start to make the lockout easier. For sumo it's mostly about getting the weight off the ground so the more efficient start position with the deadlift bar should be more helpful compared to conventional where all you get is a little more speed to lock out. Also closer hand position from sumo will make it bend more.

[@jamesshort779]

Cailer, a great video man! I like the topic. I don't actually think I've seen a video like this over the bend. At least, not with that much weight in the same workout by the same guy. Keep it up my friend!

[@c510sony1]

I think for sumo, when you can go wider on a deadlift bar than stiff (max width), the differences gonna be a lot larger than in conventional.

[@ipsojure2137]

Where can I find that sick color-changing shirt?

[@cailerwoolam]

You were the only one who noticed that lol. Each clip it got darker and darker from sweat 😂

[@Chedda3000music]

I do appreciate you for doing this video

[@lastactionhero7541]

The knurling on the Eleiko bar is crazy. How did that feel with a hook grip?

[@jaredjackson3257]

Have you ever lifted with a deadlift bar? Lol

[@dionisiuskusuma1462]

Lol, deadlift bar has even more aggressive knurling compared to eleiko stiff bar

[@lastactionhero7541]

Dionisius Kusuma must have been a different bar than my training partner has because yes of course I’ve used both.

[@lastactionhero7541]

Dionisius Kusuma actually it was an Ivanko bar not eleiko. Ever used one of those?

[@shreddedvarun]

stiffbar is tougher wrt to dl bar as it lacks the whip. I have experienced a 10kg difference

[@user-cm9ef4fw7m]

thank you

[@brickpick]

Great comparison, thank you sir 🙌🏽

[@Mutilatedteddybear]

I had really been wondering about this! amazing video dude keep it up!

[@emarquez8604]

Thanks for this breakdown. I appreciate it

[@joseortiz6292]

I just liked it for 2 reasons, great video and for loading and the removal of all those plates lol.

[@harelperry4271]

i love every video cailer make

[@gymintuition9232]

Damn!! Can't believe this is the first time I'm watching this one!

[@nsxmatt]

The difference I feel is the initial shock from no bend and all the weight. Even if there isn’t much bend it still takes the “shock” out of the initial pull and mentally you don’t feel all the weight at once. Plus the bend on regular gym plates pulls them off the ground one by one compared to a stiff bar. 99% of my lifts are on a stiff bar but it’s much easier for me to do the same weight on a deadlift bar.

[@Rikki2684]

In theory, the only difference between lifting with a stiff bar and a DL bar is that with the DL bar you won't be lifting the full weight until you're already in a more advanced transition. It gets gradually heavier until all the plates are off the ground. While with a stiff bar you get the full weight from the initial pull. Once the plates are off the ground it should be irrelevant which bar yo use. So according to my math, a stiff bar is better for building strength as it requires you to lift heavier weights from the beginning, while the DL bar might allow you to do heavier pulls by cheating the weights a little bit, it also seems to reduce the risk of injuries.

[@ModernNeandertal]

Great video. No BS.

[@fede9603]

the bend can be calculated analitically pretty easily if you know the material used and the geometries

[@jcsworld801]

Perdy much perfect form well done

[@martinhoff98]

You should go in one day, do the 700-800 deadlift with comp plates on a stiff bar, then another day do it on the deadlift bar, that way you can have an effective training day and still compare the two scenarios with identical load and plates used

[@anon4599]

This guy should play Wolverine after Hugh Jackman

[@ciarfah]

rkg_ vines Cailer WolverHam

[@Viralclown]

Impressive deadlift mate

[@sagebias2251]

According to Thor, Martins, and Shaw, the whip makes the lift much harder once you reach the 1050lb limit. With the elephant bar, they say the whip momentum pulls you back down half way through the lift.

[@noodles2732]

Do you think the bar would make more of a difference for lifters who pull the slack out more than you do? A guy like you lifts super explosive while someone like Belkin pulls the slack to a point he’s almost upright before starting the lift. Do you think his carryover from a stiff bar to DL bar would be greater than yours?

[@ddomaster87]

Nest time: Please put the same plates for both bars: one calibrated and one non-calibrated on each!

[@doggofrs9651]

Ngl, you look like Baker Mayfield but strong asf

[@moustaphabalde7581]

its so weird to see so many people being offended by cailer saying 500 lb deadlift, if you really want the number put in the work jesus

[@Peeter8]

Do an effort coparison video. Ex. 500 vs 600 effort or 500 vs 700 effort. Just to get a perspective for my road to 6 plates and such.

[@Roars270]

Belt vs beltless pulling? You may or may have not made a video about this. I’m interested in your opinion!

[@krisztianmezei888]

you have do comparison with your max on each bar...to make exact statement :)

[@rwood1995]

At first I was like here we go again with sumo ....... then I was like 🥳🤩😎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@louis.s5801]

great video

[@joshmaki5843]

My max deadlift right now on a Texas deadlift bar is 40 lbs heavier than my max on the stiff bar and I’m in the 500s

[@getstrongby4038]

Interesting. Do you have small hands? That could be a factor

[@JukkaPalme100]

I wanna see your shoulder workout.

[@jeremywatson6498]

I think that your style of deadlifting, more specifically the way you pull the weight off the floor is more suited for a stiff bar switch is why I think you don't notice the help that a deadlift bar can provide

[@svmuscle7677]

I feel that it's just mainly a comfort thing, between the thickness and the slight length difference in the bar... I am only in the 500 range but I can definitely feel like using a good dead lift bar helps out a good amount

[@zachbird2465]

I appreciate the fuck out of this Cailer

[@romeoradin12]

dude forgot to put on his superhero mask while using his super strength.

[@Jmack7861]

I’ve noticed that you will get a lot more out of a deadlift bar than a stiff bar if it’s what you primarily train with. If you do a good mix or use a stiff bar for most of your training it will be less of a gap