Caitlin Clark vs Angel Reese Rookie of The Year Advanced Analytics Breakdown. What The Numbers Say.

A closer look at Caitlin Clark vs Angel Reese Rookie of The Year Race. And what the Advanced Analytics suggest.
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[@l.daniels]

I’ve seen channels blaming Clark’s teammates for her losses😂

[@ProphetP11]

Eye seen both too

[@michealasher6983]

Have you ever seen Clark blame anyone other than herself?

[@docrock9011]

Have you seen how many turnovers were passes that hit them in the hands then they fumbled it out of bounds? Happens a lot. So while some of Clarks struggles are on Clark it’s not all on her.

[@l.daniels]

@@docrock9011 see that. That right there. Us Black women don’t get that type of sympathy.

[@ZenDCIII]

If a team loses a game doesn't the lost belong to the entire team not just Caitlin Clark? Even though Angel Reese may have 15 consecutive double double games, her team didn't have 15 consecutive wins. Chicago Sky had a losing record during her streak. Do you also believe the losses only belong to Reese?

[@teekay5893]

Bro why gonna go piss off 60% of america with facts like that😂

[@DarkBlackTimes]

Lol. No, the fanatics will say advanced analytics are flawed. And that they are biased towards CC and not any other Allstar. That's what it means to be a fanatic. No amount of data can change their opinion. Had someone say in the chat that Caitlin was better than Aja Wilson...

[@teekay5893]

​@@DarkBlackTimespoint proven with whoever said that crazy claim😂

[@JOESUBA122]

He is sure is! Maga whites will want to shut down the whole wnba because she is not playing good! Look at them coming after the USA team because there is no white players on the team 😂😂😂

[@michealasher6983]

Wherever you got your information on how to understand these statistics you are incorrect on so many of your assumptions. Please read up on what USG is used for as a support metric, and why PER will never see a PG as being as valuable as a big. This is why A'ja and Stewie at the top. Arike is the only guard on the list this year (not a PG) and that is one of the reasons that I think her being snubbed from team USA is a crime, she has broken the mold in a big friendly league. Same with Jonquel, but as a true post big she will never get the same respect as the bigs that are able to spread the court. Still, this exact analytical metric is the most favorable way to compare the two players if you want to promote Reese as ROTY and still the two are very close, and only getting closer as the two play out the season. Saying that Clark averaging .5 more blocks per game than a post player is marginal is an absolutely crazy take. Saying that a two point scoring advantage is a wash is also ridiculous when the league favors post players, and shooting percentage is a no excuse category for a post player. A'ja has a high analytical threshold because she completes her plays with high efficiency. Also, look up win shares and tell us why you used that instead of the statistic that literally everyone including odds makers use when accounting for total points scored or assisted as a share of game win statistics? The answer is that using a PER score is the only favorable way to say that Reese is more of a winner than Clark. One of these two has lowered their teams win percentage from last season, one has increased their teams win percentage over last season, so why don't we talk about that?

[@EddieBuie-fk6gi]

Leave that man alone he knows what he's talking about

[@user-zg6ok9ui8o]

YOU should Never bring up Wilson and Stewart in any comparison to Clarke....she Will never be better better than Stewart and she isnt even in the same Galaxy as Wilson....and she never will be...

[@michealasher6983]

@@user-zg6ok9ui8o all completely incorrect including the spelling and syntax.

[@collinsmiddleton3054]

Reese is that beasts period haters get out yall feelings sky is the limits

[@docrock9011]

Sky is worse this year than last. Their stadium is fitting 700 more than last year for Reese and Cardoso. Reese is nothing at all.

[@collinsmiddleton3054]

@@docrock9011 you hating get yo shit together

[@docrock9011]

@@collinsmiddleton3054 Everything that I state is PURE FACT and happy to back it up with sources. Just do yourself a favor and stop lying to yourself.

[@collinsmiddleton3054]

@docrock9011 nah you lying to yourself fam you just another fanboy hating on angel Reese because she's doing her thing

[@larrydm4373]

Lets talk about PER, the god stat lmfao 1 pg is in the tops 25 in the wnba ever and 1 in the tops 15 in the NBA ever If you use PER Andre Drummond and Clint Capella areop 40 players all time in the NBA There are good advance stats but people using PER need to be called out. It is heavily flawed and will always favor bigs Stop this crazyness with PER. The rest is solid

[@newjersey-thesupertrucker]

Here we go.. Merr cuh!! Reese is doing better than clark! That's racist!

[@jdotso23]

100000% Drummond, Capela & Daniel Gafford had higher PER than Steph Curry last yr 😂

[@Kay_is_amazing]

@@newjersey-thesupertrucker Nice dodge on question. Andre Drummond better than Steph Curry?

[@duvalovertonii6601]

@@Kay_is_amazingimpacting winning is impacting winning…just because it isn’t the all star…doesn’t mean there isn’t a bigger impact…but you also have to weigh it with the rest of the sum stats…efficiency doesn’t tell all…player impact is more important…but…if you already have your franchise player…then when you add to that player you look at efficiency…thats why it’s important in scouting…if you need to build a franchise on someone…you also want to look at OWS% DWS% WS% OFFRTG DEFRTG NETRTG PIE +/- The things that give you an indication of how impactful that player is on a team and the teams ability to win.

[@Dutch_Rudder]

@@newjersey-thesupertrucker Ooga booga, can’t wait to raid Footlocker after Trump wins because “oppression”

[@pushinp157]

Those advanced stats basically say that Clark's stats are basically empty and she has little to no impact when she's on the floor.

[@rlbk525]

How tf are the advance analytics flawed?? Is it because a lot of them aren’t favorable to Caitlin perhaps?? 🤦‍♂️ 🤣 CC at times has issues in the fourth, she has a tendency to fade and not take over when she’s suppose to be the team’s offensive leader. Look at how many games she’s the lead scorer and yet they’re coming up short!! She needs to work on her defense and bring down her damn turnover numbers!! She can stack all the “records” she wants, I’m guessing that the Fever prefers wins over hyped up stats! 🤷‍♂️ There’s hope for the fever; their schedule in the second half of the season should be more to their liking, their recent lost to the Mystics notwithstanding.

[@marcleblanc6293]

Lmfao....no impact that's so effing funny. Leading all Rookies in several categories, first rookie with a triple double......something is drastically wrong with this analyst

[@marcleblanc6293]

CC is average? Well a team of CCs would dominate the entire league.

[@user-or1dn7mj8o]

22 is the truth the best and the new sheriff of the wnba. The most 25 and 5 games Triple double club of 1 Leads the league in point production More blocks and steals than fake Barbie And she's only played in 9 percent of major games but accounts for 50 percent of revenue Let's not talk about her commanding major arenas and getting standing O's in the opponents stadiums. Caitlin Clark is without a doubt the real damn deal. Angel Reese is no more than a weave wearing fake Barbie that has a decent hustle game. PERIOD.... BTW boycott the USA women's basketball games.l

[@ThisIsHarderThanIThought]

@@marcleblanc6293 >>> just need a team of two CC would be a dominant team

[@haroldvsharold2.0]

Analytics are more accurate in long-term, not short-term. It doesn't tell the whole story. You can't grade a rookie on advance analytics. when you started this video you explained what the advanced analytics are for. This is what scouts use. I compiled of months and years of floor time not 20 games. This is why player who have been playing for 10 years verses a player who has been playing for 3 months look completely different. It takes about 2 to 3 years for advance analytics to either flatten out, or continue to rise. This all depends on the player. And this will change from game to game. These were her stats in college: GP 33 GS 33 MPG 34.3 USG% 40.7 OFF RTG 121.2 DEF RTG 90.5 NET RTG 30.7 TS% 62.2 EFG% 57.6 FT RATE 29.7 3FG TEND 45.0 OFF REB% 1.4 DEF REB% 22.1 REB% 12.7 AST% 50.1 STL% 2.7 BLK% 1.5 TO% 15.3. While both are having a good rookie year. I'm going to stick with Caitlin. As a sports fan your game speaks for itself. We can talk about turnover and whatever. Lets talk about the context of those turnovers. Teammates miss pass its a turnover. You have possession of the ball the most you will have higher turnover. All ball handlers have high turnovers. I think Lebron has at least 5000, and he's one of the goats. Caitlin Clark probably holds more records as a rookie WNBA player than any person who has ever stepped foot on the hardwood. IJS

[@richardmedler4650]

Stop lying to yourself

[@muratsahindal8576]

Thanks for the explanation, I was going crazy when I saw his stats have watched both AR and CC matches there is no chance that AR is better.

[@haroldvsharold2.0]

@@richardmedler4650 about?

[@khixxyh582]

@@richardmedler4650no you just dumb you might need to sit this one out

[@khixxyh582]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@fonzworthbentley7455]

Remember that Angel Reese is a teammate of 6'7" rookie Kamilla Cardoso and still manages to stand out. Without Cardoso on the Sky, Angel Reese's stats would be better.

[@ramonpunsalang3397]

CC is driving the Fever's bus. Angel is a passenger.

[@EverFox-cw2ho]

No one cared about women's basketball until Angel raised her hand and took the championship. Clark is driving the bus Angel GAVE her. Go Angel!!❤❤

[@EddieBuie-fk6gi]

It looks like Reese is the driver and the ticket master 😅

[@pushinp157]

@@ramonpunsalang3397 Well obviously not when the fever lose more games when Caitlin scores more points but it's the opposite for the sky hence significantly higher offensive winshares

[@jdotso23]

PER is NOT the “holy grail” - it’s well known that it heavily skews to Bigs bc it weighs offensive Rebs higher than assists (so doesn’t properly weight assists impact) + TOs greatly affects guards PER bc they handle the ball more so they get more TOs than bigs … that’s why Drummond & Daniel Gafford had a higher PER than Curry & Durant last yr … CC leading the entire WNBA in pts created (I.e pts scored + pts scored from assists) - she runs a whole offense, the other just hustles for rebounds … not a competition

[@BlackGoldenAge]

If the stats for Reese are better, then rookie of the year should go to Angel Reese.

[@Kay_is_amazing]

@@BlackGoldenAge well, the stats are better for Caitlin. You can’t point to PER which doesn’t weight assists and favors front court players. He is cherry picking anything to give it to AR. If CC goes up in PER it will be that she smiles more next.

[@blainelee8021]

​@@Kay_is_amazing anyway.

[@duvalovertonii6601]

@@Kay_is_amazingwhat about… OWS% DWS% WS% OFFRTG DEFRTG NETRTG PIE EFF +/- ? All of them still point to Reese…and they all consider assists impact while also considering TOV impact…they consider all the stats combined

[@user-zg6ok9ui8o]

​@@Kay_is_amazingCC is not a PG her Assist to Turnovers ratio is horrible....she just ain't that good my guy it is what it is....

[@banffbob]

I like how you left out defensive rebounds: AR has 140, while CC has 122. Pretty good for a point guard. And when you said blocks was about the same, you left out that AR had 7, and CC had 17. Again not bad for a point guard against a forward.

[@Kay_is_amazing]

@@banffbob Yeah he was about the same when CC had better numbers. CC leads in 7 of the 10 stat lines but then he digs for PER which favors front court players. A Drummond had a better PER than Steph Curry last season. Under his logic Drummond is better than Curry.

[@duvalovertonii6601]

Gotta let go of gauging accumulative stats…they don’t gauge consistent impact. Also…7 out of 10 doesn’t say much when there’s like 5 stats that gauge shooting alone…also..there’s quite a bit more than that…but I’ve listed the list enough times…all of the shooting stats are summed up into TS%…and if you wanna get spicy…the also EFG%…but then OFFRTG, OWS%, and +/-…gauge those numbers against turnovers, assists, and OREB to gauge the various aspects of how a players offense benefits the team and the teams winning.

[@TheProchargedmopar]

CC's season stat line is now: 384/136/175 Only 12 other player seasons have been there. w her 35 steals, only 9. w 20 blocks, only 2. w 65 3PM, no other player season has ever reached that stat line. She's a rook w 23 games played.

[@boondoggle4820]

I would love to keep up with these advanced analytics. I’m curious where you find them.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

www.basketball-reference.com/wnba/ stathead.com/basketball/vs/caitlin-clark-vs-angel-reese?

[@boondoggle4820]

@@DarkBlackTimesThanks.

[@duvalovertonii6601]

Also…I google “Angel Reese advanced stats” and the wnba has them…but…if you want to see the rankings it’s a little more complicated

[@introjo1]

Numbers don't lie!

[@tombrock03]

Figures don't lie but liers figure

[@muratsahindal8576]

It depends on what you feed the system or programs with, seems like RB and TOV are worth more than all the other stats because RB and TOV are the only stats Angel has an advantage with. if you are manager of a team you must be crazy to take AR before CC

[@richardmedler4650]

​@@muratsahindal8576why Angel been owning CC all the way back in Maryland

[@muratsahindal8576]

@@richardmedler4650 don't know could be because her team was much better than CC team, just check which schools they went to, think you can find answers to your question

[@Kay_is_amazing]

IOWA wasn’t a power until CC. And CC beat her ass in the rematch.

[@rogerbeck3560]

You also didnt calculate that Caitlin Clark is the fasters rookie guard to 20 blocks and the only rookie this season to have 20 blocks and 20 seals.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

James Harden led the league in steals and he was considered one of the worst defenders in the league. CC is also about to break the record of most turnovers in all of WNBA history.

[@rogerbeck3560]

The issue with McNutts logic is who ever makes the playoffs is the ROTY. Well at the time she said this actually both Sky 7th and Fever 8th was in the playoffs. However think about ! Just base on who makes the playoffs does it mean the player had that much of a impact? No it's has to be figured by how well that player plays the games. That is how the ROTY has always been figured.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

The biggest flaw in your assessment of Caitlin being the clear favorite is that you guys NEVER account for defense. Many of CC fans act like defense isn't a part of the game of basketball. CC is a below average defender at best, while Angel Reece is already one of the best defenders in the WNBA. She can defend out on the wing...she was guarding Sabrina Ionescu, one of the best guards in the league yesterday and made it very hard on her when she was on her. And then Angel can also defend downlow. I don't think the casual fan has any idea just how rare and important that is to a team's success. There is a reason Brianna Stewart and Aja Wilson are MVPs and Champions, they can both do what Angel Reece can do which is Defend at the highest level. Brianna Stewart and Aja Wilson are both at 2.2 in (DWS) defensive whin shares. Which is tied for second highest in the league. Caitlin Calrk is at (.04) Thats the worst in the league. Truth be told. Caitlin Clark is the James Harden of the NBA. He was a great offensive talent that played in a system that had the ball in his hands 90% of the time. Harden was a stat stuffing machine broke Wilt Chamberlin's records! At any point did anyone everrrrrr consider James Harden to be the best player in the league?.... NO! In fact, he was routinely picked last for the Allstar games by his peers. They knew what he was. If Caitlin Clark is the GOAT, then James Harden, is the GOAT. They are 2 pees in pod at least the player architect. Advanced Stats tell the full story on a player that's why GM's and scouts make million-dollar decisions based on them. All that being said CC is really good, but we need to pump the breaks. Long 3's and dominating the ball for a whole game doesn't make a player the best. If it does, then we are moving the goal post because not one single player that wasn't great on both sides of the ball was ever considered to be the best ever in men's or women's basketball. Peace.

[@FreshWater37]

Based on what you have learned thus far this WNBA season, if we had a redraft, who would you pick first? That is your ROTY

[@duvalovertonii6601]

Well…that becomes a little complex…because Indiana needed Clark on paper regardless…Reese is better at winning…but you can’t realistically put that over needing a floor general…doesn’t mean Reese isn’t a better first pick for any team…but Clark was the best first pick for that particular team…same with Brink…and same with Cardoso…I think that Sparks pick Reese over Jackson though…and with that in mind…I think Chicago would switch how they picked…because once the Sparks pick Brink…Cardoso is at much less risk of getting picked before 7…because I think Atlanta would’ve went for Reese too if they weren’t so focused on having an active stretch 4

[@Dutch_Rudder]

Reece wasn’t picked first ON HER TEAM which had 3 in the top 13 and made the playoffs last year.

[@Dutch_Rudder]

@@duvalovertonii6601 Not that complex. Clark is clearly 20X more value. Even if she doesn’t make your team better this year, omg she’s worth more than the entire league (which says nothing because they’re -$50M 😂) It’s Kobe vs Vlade Divac.

[@duvalovertonii6601]

@@Dutch_Rudder lol…she’s worth more why?

[@duvalovertonii6601]

@@Dutch_Rudder yea….Reese was clearly undervalued…on paper she’s a rebounder with some put back potential….in reality she’s a morale builder that can build individual connections throughout a team and trigger winning drives….Reese is by far the most valuable rookie in this class

[@dreams2xs]

There is a very huge difference between a point guard and a post player. Advanced Analytics doesn't tell the whole story. Comparing apples and oranges. Caitlin is by far a better point guard than Angel Reese is as a post player.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

That's not remotely true. Out of all the Allstar border line AllStar point guards, CC has some the worst advanced analytics and the lowest WIN share percentage. Her defense is so bad that she has to be perfect on offense to have good Win share percentage and PER. She may get there, but she's hurts her team in a lot of areas. Defense and Turnovers mainly.

[@user-zg6ok9ui8o]

HOW When CC leads the league in turnovers while Angel leads the league in Rebounding make it MAKE sense....

[@rogerbrown3595]

AA's are for career stats. they do not represent low numbers. at this point CC has the highest affected points in the league. and leads in Most per game stats. both are killing it, but this needs cook time.

[@jjmac6054]

I have to be honest. WS doesn’t make sense given approximately half the teams scoring runs through CC. What am I missing?

[@EddieBuie-fk6gi]

You is missing the ball

[@jdotso23]

Yea I know why PER favors Bigs but I don’t understand Offensive WS’s bc clearly CC is more important to her teams offense … would love for someone to explain OWS

[@DM-3000]

Caitlin “turnover” Clark tries to do so much, she has become a double edged sword for her own team. She aims for assist to a fault.

[@Kay_is_amazing]

@@DM-3000 Aims for assists? You sound pretty dumb to be honest. Anyone can type on a KB lol

[@MPARNELL]

Clark the gent Kent 💯

[@Jon223-km5bv]

Advanced analytics are usually over cited by people who have never taken a statistical analysis class in their lives: their raw uncooked numbers with little meaning until analyzed in context. You can , and statistical science ignorant, commentator s do cherry pick them too boost their favorite player : the biggest, among several, flaw is not even understanding how different position have automatic positive or negative biases in deep dive stats: plus/minus especially is one that can't be blankly applied without context.

[@user-du7jy3cs6u]

Ok angel only makes 4 out of 10 layups. Lets talk defensive rebounds what reese has 18 more then cc and getting 35 offensive rebounds which 25 is probably her own that tell alot. Cc has the only triple double souble in league history and was one away from another. Reese cant even dribble right and when it seems that there giving reese rebounds and fouls to get her dosuble double what does that say cc is far the better all around player peroid and there is no disputing that

[@blainelee8021]

I've seen Caitlin get stripped quite a few times in college and the pros, she is not a true point guard, she has no left hand game whatsoever, stop her jump shot and she's less than nothing, she's soft funeral music no toughness, that's if you really been watching she folds against tough defense.

[@user-du7jy3cs6u]

@@blainelee8021 sure she does if you were watching her in college you would of seen her beat all the records. And getting blitzed all the time and faced at 94 ft give me a break and what does reese have nothing but rebounds

[@tab529]

CC is minus 550 compared to AR positive+350 without going to comparison to stats ROTY is CC

[@TheRational1inTheRoom]

Caitlins Assists are all but negated by the Turnover Rate, and the Fever win column doesnt necessarily come off of one of her games where the lights up the stat sheet (They usually come off of Banger games from Kelsey Mitchell or Aliyah Boston) With such a high usage rate, that explains why PER and Win Shares are kind to guards like Jackie Young, Kayla McBride, Sabrina Ionescu, Jewell Lloyd,Kelsey Plum, Tyasha Harris, Chennedy Carter, etc but not Caitlin.

[@Kay_is_amazing]

We get it. You hate whitey.

[@Kay_is_amazing]

@@TheRational1inTheRoom More dismissive garbage and hate the white girl.

[@ericsonzulueta3622]

Catlin Clark is a play maker, angel Reese is just waiting for the ball 🏀 to come to her 🥴

[@duvalovertonii6601]

Would you rather have a team with one play maker and no finishers? Or would you have a team with a finisher and no playmaker?

[@user-zg6ok9ui8o]

She isnt that great of a playmaker....And Angel don't wait on shit that's why she's the leading rebounder in the league...that's going to get the rock Yo self...

[@MrsTruthTeller]

How do you say they are tied every time Clark is ahead in the stat? lol

[@GunninRebel55]

Angel Reese is the ROTY and is not even close. Caitlin playing 39 mpg ain't changing shit.

[@JGreez]

Except for her team wins more than it did last year, unlike Angel Reese’s team. You probably criticized CC for not winning the championship but now that Angel has not affected her team’s ability to win, you won’t hold her to the same standard. LMAO 😂😂😂😂

[@Kapittals]

Caitlin Clark is clearly the most skilled player

[@willjordan2046]

What skills do she have

[@Kapittals]

@@willjordan2046 Can we be honest as hoop fans?, Does Caitlin have more of a basketball skill set than Angel ?

[@willjordan2046]

@@Kapittals that’s why I ask what skill shooting 3 is not a skill set

[@jdotso23]

⁠​⁠@@willjordan2046lmaooo so shooting is not a skill set?? 😂😂 that is literally the #1 skill in bball 😂 she’s also has elite court vision … rebounds isn’t a skill set - that’s pure hustle & size - you can’t go into a gym & practice rebounding skills 😂 so yea CC is MUCH more skilled bc what skill set does AR have??

[@willjordan2046]

@@jdotso23 your dumb ass I can tell you never play basketball it doesn’t take a skill to shoot a child can shoot do you even know what skill is 😂😂😂

[@juronworthy3518]

We all know it’s going to Clark

[@Tmac_305]

Privileged people usually do get things much easier, so I wouldn't be surprised

[@gutierrezgainz]

This video makes some great points about Angel Reese's immediate value as a tremendous rebounder along with Clark's initial rough transition into the WNBA. If we're talking about a month ago, ROTY easily goes to Angel Reese. That said, this video isn't focusing on certain details that should be incredibly important in determining a ROTY. Firstly, the hyperfixation on PER doesn't make total sense when bigs are going to naturally have a higher PER (why players like Clint Capela have higher PERs than Stephen Curry, but does not mean Clint Capela is anywhere near the caliber of Curry). In addition, you glossed over the 3.5 PPG difference when she is doing this at a true shooting percentage that is 9% higher than Angel Reese's, which should not be the case for a big that is getting a ton of looks 3 feet away from the basket. Kobe, post injury 2013, for example, had his true shooting dip by 8%. So Caitlin is a bigger threat on more places of the court, and is also scoring much more efficiently. She has more turnovers than Reese, but also has a higher turnover to assist ratio and is running the brunt of the offense, leading the league in assists. Saying these extra turnovers are a downside is completely neglecting her passing ability (and ability of running the offense in general whereas angel reese is being fed the ball, key difference) and why she was a significantly better prospect than Reese, which is determined not just by certain stats, but how a player shows ability and flashes of potential. Not to mention that the Chicago Sky have a worse winning percentage than last year where the Fever have a significantly higher winning percentage.

[@nightrider222222]

Best breakdown by far. Salute 🫡

[@dontedrake2316]

I'll be honest I think Caitlin Clark will win the rookie of the Year just because she's the best player in the league also the fact she's single handily almost won the game today against the Washington mystics and she almost had triple-double

[@liveesunflower]

A’ja Wilson is the best player in the league

[@dontedrake2316]

@@liveesunflower well I know the numbers to say otherwise Caitlin Clark numbers on not far off in my opinion

[@DarkBlackTimes]

Aja Wilson is in a different stratosphere. She's the best player of All Time. She's top 5 in PPG, Rebounds, Steals, and Blocks. Number 1 in 3 of those categories. She has a PER (Player Efficiency Rating) 10 points higher than anyone in the league. Shes number 1 in Win Shares, Number 1 in Offensive win shares, and top 5 in Defensive Win Shares. Catlin Clark is nowhere to be found in any of those categories. Even if you were just using the eye test Aja has 0 weakness to her game. Shes 2X Defensive MVP that is limitless on the offensive end as well. I'm curious to what you are basing your opinion on. Can you explain?

[@kendrahorton6508]

​@dontedrake2316 but ROTY is not about opinion it's about facts. He just showed you the facts. CC is average. But she can still be your favorite player. Angel is above average and her presence is CONSISTENTLY crucial to her team winning. IF Caitlin wins it will not be because she is the better player... it would be because she has the biggest and loudest fan base.

[@lilikaramirez1848]

​@@DarkBlackTimesur pro black u gonna go for black period

[@Louisianimal318]

This what I be talking 'bout. CC is a guard and AR is Forward. They will never be one on one. Different positions for what they specialize in on the court. AR is better at her position than CC is at her position... whole facts..

[@mobid.2084]

Brittany Griner with 6 inches more than AR went 12 and 6 her rookie year and in her best years barely did what AG does as a first year player with the exception of blocks.

[@jameeluqdah1854]

Brittany grinder only has 6 inches??? She is so masculine I was expecting at least 9 inches

[@kovidswole2953]

Beauty vs Plain Cain

[@Ridneymaxwell95]

Yeah right anyone with enough since knows it's not even Catlin Clark is running it up every game today's game 29 pts 13 asst 5 rebs 5 stls 3 blks

[@blainelee8021]

And yet they still lost to the weakest team in the league, and it's sense not since.

[@daPhonMan]

Co MVP is the only safe way 😢

[@user-kt7zu1zn8h]

Neck and neck my ass…CC puts up records every day. She is among the best players in the league, all around..her stats from todays game, never done by WNBA player nor NBA player..listen well…angel scores from under the rim, no mark on her..the difference its like an elephant and an ant…she has more blocks that angel has which is crazy…turnovers..??? Please…that is the justification haters are using…the thing is AR cant handle the ball, does not have the basketball IQ…..the sky is doing worse than last year, the fever best than the past three or four seasons…its pretty clear to me..by looking from the outside..not a fan of any of them…there has been 130 DD or more in W history…CC has around 7 or 8 . There is only 36 TD in 28 years…one of them CCs

[@DM-3000]

The sky has a new team with a new coach and is only 3 games below .500. You said a whole lot just to say almost nothing at the same time. Comparing elephants to ants? 🤣🤣🤣 knock it off

[@blainelee8021]

Caitlin Clark can't handle the ball, I've seen her get ripped trying to bring the ball up court too many times, she has no left hand game, she panics against stronger teams.

[@adriangriffith42]

Thanks for explaining advanced stats, I'm new to it all. I just gotta try to find it myself online to track progress. With ROTY, the balance keeps tipping. It's that close. Looks like it's Clarke’s turnovers and win share are letter her down. Reese is more consistent but needs to work on her versatility in transition.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

Here you go. www.basketball-reference.com/wnba/ stathead.com/basketball/vs/caitlin-clark-vs-angel-reese?

[@scottwhittle6995]

Everyone including the haters know that CC is the overall better player. She’s definitely the 1st pick on any team

[@2notdexx392]

The reason these stats don’t matter is cause some way they saying AR has a bigger impact on winning when the sky was the 5th seed last year and is on a worst win pace than last year.. CC went to the worst team in the league and they are in the playoffs as of rn

[@kikobubblegum6045]

Sky literally has a whole new team. The Fever only added a couple players to the team they already had last year. That’s one of the reasons why the team was doing better in the beginning when CC was on the bench. I think they should share the award because they’re both doing great things for the league and their respective teams. ❤

[@muratsahindal8576]

This so stupid so you say they can replace CC with an average wba player and get the same results. she is 2nd in AS in the entire league. Don't understand how RB and AS can be worth the same. 100 AS is minimum 200p maximum 300p. 100 RB has no exact mininum who knows how many p 100 RB are.

[@O.J.S.]

I don't mind either side cheering on their player and may the best player win. But Clark fans are delusional. In their mind Clark can do no wrong. Clark has high turnovers, it's because her teammates can't catch. The Fever lose a game, it's because Christie Sides can't coach. Angel Reese and Sheryl Swoopes build a bond, it's because Swoopes wants to spite Caitlin Clark. Clark's fans have blurred the line between fandom and unhealthy idolatry. Excellent Video!

[@marcleblanc6293]

Yea it's hard to have a turnover when you,park yourself under the basket.

[@O.J.S.]

@@marcleblanc6293 You clearly don't know basketball. Hands are always reaching for the ball under the basket, it's actually pretty easy to get ripped down low. Michael Jordan's most iconic shot was preceded by stripping Karl Malone CLOSE TO THE BASKET.

[@Thatguy-pn1fo]

Blocks stat is misconstrued. Angel has 4 blocks which sucks if your the center of your team. Cc has 22 after yesterday.

[@renovo56]

Advanced analytics also says Nate Tiny Archibald is better than Michael Jorden.

[@kalvli]

Ts%? Reese is shooting from 2ft!!! CC is shooting from 34ft? .. Blks caitlin is double!!! But Reese is the big... Also what's the numbers minus first 11 games? ..

[@TheRational1inTheRoom]

The week Angel won Player of the Week, She shot 40% from 3. That same week, Caitlin shot 25% from 3. Also, Angel has spread the floor a bit with her middy this month, which is Why Kamilla has seen a boost in production.

[@banffbob]

The most attendance at away games have been twice against guess who . . . Caitlin Clark. And the most attendance at a home game has been against guess who . . . Caitlin Clark. Angel Reese can't even sell out home games. So who would you rather have on your team?

[@blainelee8021]

That's all because of popularity, not because she's the best player.

[@monsoon8889]

@blainelee8021 Actually, AR has a million more followers on Instagram so that would make her more popular. Shouldn't she be the one selling out arenas. Or maybe CC is selling out arenas because she's scored the most points in ncaa history man or woman.

[@Neake22]

That whole "attendance" argument is moot. Of course when the FEVER play an opponent attendance will go up because her fanbase want to see her. But that doesn't explain why attendance for other teams are up when they don't play the fever. She's NOT the reason why Las Vegas sold out.

[@blainelee8021]

@@Neake22 Trust me you'll never get through to her delusional fans.

[@Neake22]

@@blainelee8021 I know man! It's so frustrating seeing and hearing these outlandish claims.

[@HHV44]

CC skill level much high quality of game superior

[@DarkBlackTimes]

Oh really? Rebounding? Perimeter defense? Low post defense? Post scoring?

[@HHV44]

AR rebounds a lot of her own shots attempts on 3ft shots .Yes she is a low post banger and she is a good player.

[@nexttime9377]

​@HHV44 Question is, how is Clark a more "Superior " player? Offense alone doesn't get you to best player. Basketball is a two way sport. Clark isn't that.

[@monsoon8889]

How on earth is a legit 3 level scorer with great vision even in the same discussion with an inefficient garbage man? This video is exactly why advanced analytics don't tell you everything. The skill difference between the two is huge and I don't think that's debatable. Just look and see. How are we sitting here watching a female version of Luka then pretending a rebounder is on the same level. Ain't no one picking AR over CC to start a team bro. Even if AR somehow wins ROY. And the turnovers? Take a look at the all time turnover list in the NBA. HOFer after HOFer after HOFer and so on.

[@5thavemedia225]

Chris Mullin is in the Hall of Fame, and he's done nothing in the NBA to merit it.....🤐🤐🤐

[@monsoon8889]

@5thavemedia225 Did u look at those names atop the list bro?

[@user-pf8jj3id7m]

Passed over blocks between a guard vs. a forward/center. Twice as many! CC leads the league in total points accounted for which shows the most valuable person on any team.

[@Change2Evolve]

Your analysis fields requires more information. You need to go into how you're arriving at these results. Show your math? Reese is a rebounder and scorer around the rim. That's why she been shooting more from the perimeter lately. Anybody with common sense know just putting back your own missed shots at the rim is advanced analytics😂 Clark avg more blocks/gm than Reese😮 suggest your analytics has some flaws. If you need Reese to be ROTY just say that. All of this advanced analytics is just that. A deeper dive into trying to help an avg big look above avg. Clark's contribution to her team can't be avg🤔 Between scoring and assist Clark's responsible for +50% of the teams total pts/gm. Clark is tied with Tamika Catchings for the most games for a rookie with 20/5/5 at 6 GMs at the halfway point of the season🤔 Clark is the ONLY ROOKIE EVER to have a triple-double in the WNBA. Straight stats. No analytics. Shall I go on? 1/5th of Clark's turnovers is teammates inability to catch basic passes around THE RIM. Clark's assist numbers would be thru the roof if her teammates were more consistent catching the ball. It's no shame in admitting Clark is just a better player than Reese. **Reese's double-double streak is in question because she was given credit for a "rebound" on a drive to the basket which Reese's shot was blocked and she recovered the blocked ball while standing out-of-bounds😵 Check the film? Straight facts. No analytics😫 Make that make sense🤔 Give props where they are due. When you have to put down one player to lift another that's the quintessential definition of a "player hater!" Advanced analytics sound like high-tech player hating🤓 Let's just be real the 4 and 5 positions are not skilled positions. Yes it requires a degree of athleticism but not to the degree of the 3, 2, and 1. And we both know the 1 i.e. PG is the highest degree of difficulty on the floor. So yeah, of course Clark has more TO's because she's trying to make more plays for her teammates. Clark leads the league in total pts as a ROOKIE. Straight points and assists. Straight stats!!! Clark is the more skilled player of the two. No shade. Straight facts! Reese is obviously a better big but they don't play the same position. Reese's team doesn't ask her to be Clark. And Clark's team doesn't ask Clark to be Reese. Although she tries to be in some stats🤔👀 When this 2024 season is in the books Clark will have done more statistically across the board than Reese hands down bc Clark is simply the more skilled player. Did your advanced analytics reveal Shaq was better than the Mamba😀✌🏾️

[@Jon223-km5bv]

Like most advance stat blogs he/she has no math to show: their just uncooked stats pulled from sites like Stat mamba and present without context or analysis.

[@Change2Evolve]

@@Jon223-km5bv Preciate the response. I thought it was just me.

[@slick73nova]

😆 CC dominates. Look at the amount of points she puts up. Where's Reese's TRIPLE DOUBLE?

[@Tmac_305]

Where's cc consistency with her double-doubles? She shoots 3's and that's it! That's not an athlete, that's someone will a specific skill.... Plus cc is really boyish and rough looking, js.

[@quinnosborn3441]

@@Tmac_305 CC leads the league in assists, retard

[@ericsonzulueta3622]

Caitlin Clark the total package, angel Reese is a far second 🥴

[@__________Troll__________]

*CC was overrated and Angel was underrated, but CC is the better player, that said, just because she is the better player doesn't mean she should automatically win roty, performance is all that matters*

[@JohnFisherjpec]

Please just give the rookie award to angel…im tired of hearing about this and the whining. Just light the fire even more under CC’s country ass and im curious what will happen. (You know whats going to happen. She’ll most likely start to eventually pop 3s Curry-style, just like she did in college.) enjoy the show.

[@brianwade7973]

I would like to see Reese play point guard.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

Reese was a point guard in high school before she had a bad leg injury. I would like to see Caitlin play defense on the big girls down low and take elbows all game long like Reese does. See how that works?

[@Kay_is_amazing]

She beat AR off dribble so bad she hit her in head and got a flagrant, remember?

[@pinocarrozza1645]

The PER is wrong or insufficient to tell the story. CC only doing the average for her team??……nope 😂…..and that OWS looks sus too

[@KikoLozada-th1yg]

Roy is not an mvp type award. Doesnt matter where your team finish but how the player performs....Clark performs better and thats without including she puts wnba on the map...

[@DM-3000]

CC performs but she comes with a major flaw- SHE LEADS THE ENTIRE LEAGUE BY FAR IN TURNOVERS. She’s like a Lamborghini with a misfire.

[@user-zg6ok9ui8o]

​@@DM-3000She is about to break the turnover record....lol

[@ednaalford6892]

Clark breaking record after record!

[@EverFox-cw2ho]

Including turnovers.

[@EddieBuie-fk6gi]

Yep she is.the turn overs record

[@kirkfifer5226]

say what you will without CC the Fever will not have won a game

[@pinkkennedy02]

I'm team Reese all day.. it seems that people have lost all sense of logic .. They don't play the same position so their stats will never fall in line... This dialogue is for the racists who really should be comparing Caitlin to other PGs.. but if this about ROY,the analytics explain each player's impact the best and Reese has the best +/- by far

[@JGreez]

It’s funny because the exact OPPOSITE of what you’re saying is true. Only racists think that Angel Reese should be the ROY. ESPN is woke and has an agenda to push, there are several other good basketball KZbinrs that break down that stats and explain why CC is clearly the best and it’s not even close. If Angel wins she’ll be the first DEI rookie of the year.

[@2MuchMoneyOutHere]

Leave to the Black people ready to accept a hand out!? 🤦🏾‍♂️ The reason they are channels like this, talking about nothing, posting for clicks, exists is because there is nothing to compare. A stat challenged I did with my Sister: gave her all of CC’s stats as AR’s and vice versa. Then asked who she would pick as ROTY? You wanna know who she picked?😎

[@blainelee8021]

It's not a handout when it's rightfully deserved.

[@briannajackson7765]

She prolly picked the mf u talk about all the time and anit give af fr 😭😭😭

[@Dennis_510]

This is satire right?

[@brucesmith6007]

Roty means which player contributes the most to their team. Cc is slam dunk the winner. She directs the team. Team ranking is not a direct factor since that other players have impact on that.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

Advanced Analytics has to do with individual performance as well.

[@blainelee8021]

Doesn't seem like she's doing a good job of directing.

[@brucesmith6007]

@blainelee8021 lol. She is doing an amazing job. She has improved all of them. Problem is her team has their limits in skills

[@brucesmith6007]

@blainelee8021 i think she is right up there with #23 in running the show. #22 is the goat

[@blainelee8021]

@@brucesmith6007 I think you're smoking something that's not legal.

[@PaulMahoney-pu8zi]

Caitlin was very avg today...SMH. This is stupid.

[@tyroneross8909]

Angel Reese Rookie of the Year its not just because she's the best in my book every time she play. She plays like she wants it, real bad she is a dog

[@user-or1dn7mj8o]

22 is the truth the best and the new sheriff of the wnba. The most 25 and 5 games Triple double club of 1 Leads the league in point production More blocks and steals than fake Barbie And she's only played in 9 percent of major games but accounts for 50 percent of revenue Let's not talk about her commanding major arenas and getting standing O's in the opponents stadiums. Caitlin Clark is without a doubt the real damn deal. Angel Reese is no more than a weave wearing fake Barbie that has a decent hustle game. PERIOD.... BTW boycott the USA women's basketball games.l

[@Ronald-v1i]

You're delusional! Let's find out if Angel Reese is really deserving of ROTY! For the rest of the season let's have all of Chicago Sky's opponent's double team, triple team and attack the ball on every Reese rebound. Only then can we see if Reese truly deserves ROTY!

[@NaturalAdvisor]

⁠@@Ronald-v1iAR is double teamed and triple teamed on rebounds. That’s what happens when you are a power forward and scrapping for the ball. AT clotheslined her when she was trying to get the ball. You obviously don’t watch basketball.

[@darahem6104]

the numbers dont lie but misleading plz show the maths?

[@docrock9011]

Perfect example of how formulas which PER, +\-, win shares, etc. are all MADE UP. Here is a FACT for you. Clark is top 20 in the league in EVERY stat category. Points, rebounds, assist, blocks, steals…EVERY ONE. To say Clark is average is a lie. To claim Reese is better is a lie. Stick to REAL stats…these supposed advanced stats aren’t advanced at all.

[@haroldvsharold2.0]

CC holds 21 records already in the WNBA vs Angel Reese's single-season record in double-doubles

[@EverFox-cw2ho]

@@haroldvsharold2.0 21?? What 21 records has she broken?

[@haroldvsharold2.0]

@@EverFox-cw2ho oh, plus 5 franchise records All-time leader in consecutive point-assist double-doubles in rookie season All-time leader in point-assist double-doubles in rookie season All-time leader in turnovers in debut game: 10 Fastest guard to record 20 blocks: 23 games Fastest player to record 100 points and 50 assists: 8 games Fastest player to record 150+ points, 50+ rebounds, and 50+ assists: 10 games Fastest player to record 200+ points and 50+ assists: 12 games Fastest player to record 200+ points, 75+ rebounds, and 75+ assists: 15 games Fastest player to record 250+ points and 100+ assists: 17 games Fastest player to record 300+ points, 100+ rebounds, and 100+ assists: 19 games Fastest player to record 350+ points and 150+ assists: 22 games First player in WNBA and NBA history[n 3] to record 25+ points, 10+ assists, 5+ rebounds, 5+ steals, and 5+ three-pointers in a single game (July 10, 2024, vs. Washington Mystics) First rookie to record 15+ points, 9+ rebounds, and 12+ assists in a single game (June 30, 2024, vs. Phoenix Mercury) First rookie to record 15+ points, 10+ assists, and 5+ three-pointers in a single game (June 23, 2024, vs. Chicago Sky) First rookie to record 30 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals, and 3 blocks in a single game (May 28, 2024, vs. Los Angeles Sparks) First rookie to record 350 points, 100 rebounds, and 150 assists in rookie season (2024; achieved in 22 games) First rookie to record a triple-double (July 6, 2024, vs. New York Liberty) First rookie with consecutive games recording 10+ points, 5+ rebounds, and 10+ assists (June 30 and July 2, 2024) Single-game leader in three-point field goals made by a rookie: 7 (June 7, 2024, vs. Washington Mystics) Youngest player to record 30+ points, 5+ rebounds, 5+ assists, and 5+ three-pointers made in single game: 22 years, 4 months, 16 days (June 7, 2024, vs. Washington Mystics) Youngest player to record a double-double with points and assists in back-to-back games: 22 years, 5 months, 11 days (June 30 and July 2, 2024) ***Indiana Fever (franchise records) First player to record a triple-double (July 6, 2024, vs. New York Liberty) Single-season rookie leader in assists (2024) Single-game leader in assists: 13 (June 23, 2024, vs. Chicago Sky) Single-game leader in turnovers: 10 (May 14, 2024, vs. Connecticut Sun) Single-game rookie leader in three-point field goals made: 7 (June 7, 2024, vs. Washington Mystics)

[@EverFox-cw2ho]

@@haroldvsharold2.0 Dear Lord.....lol!!! Did you read what you wrote or did you copy and paste?

[@5thavemedia225]

​@haroldvsharold2.0 The desperation of you reach equates to the smell of sulfur from your skin.

[@Kay_is_amazing]

@@EverFox-cw2ho Stings doesn’t it? Buh buh Angel has double doubles. The one tonight was fake as hell, btw.

[@protecttheyouthoooo]

Wow wow . To much basketball truth . To much

[@ruyeliaslopez7783]

advance analytics used by scouting report? Caitlin Clark is the no.1 in all scouting reports. turn-overs among the important stats? there are only 5 important stats and these are points, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals. turn-overs is not one of them. by including turn-overs in your analysis, it is very obvious that you are analyzing certain stats to favor Angel Reese and confirms you are a fan of Angel Reese. Thus, your usage of advance analytics is NOT OBJECTIVE and is biased against Caitlin Clark. I was about to subscribe to your channel because in previous videos you seem to be intelligent and objective. Luckily, I did not anymore subscribe to your channel because I was wrong in my assessment of your channel. You have lost credibility with me.

[@Kay_is_amazing]

Not only that he glossed over stats that favor CC and ignored advanced stats that were phenomenal for clark.

[@kenallen9082]

C.C. IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL. SID ISN'T EVEN CLOSE.

[@EddieBuie-fk6gi]

Oh really 😅😅

[@petesiolo964]

We know that assists lead to points and that Clark leads the league in points accumulated by some margin now. The interesting stat would be how many of Clarks turnovers lead to oppositions points. Likewise, I'd like to see how many of Reese's rebounds are from her own misses, because the analytics are a bit skewed as Angels shots are mostly from 5ft around the basket, so, her true shooting % should be off the charts. Historically nobody has ever impacted the game like Clark does. On and off the court. If Clark ends the season with 500+ points; 300+ Assists; 200+ rebounds; 100 Steals; 50 blocks; 2x triple doubles & 10 double doubles but has 200 turnovers :) who do you give it to hahahaha

[@Dntturnround]

This is a fan’s perspective. Delusional fan at that

[@Tmac_305]

Stats are included.... Matter fact, the stats are the perspective!

[@ThisIsHarderThanIThought]

CCs contribution is average? but yet consistantly once or twice a week enters the record book LOL how is that average? CCs overall game is way above reese...anot only way above reese, CC is a more athletic and explosive player...how is CC outblocking a person who is getting double doubles and is touted as having a great defense?...just doesnt make sense LOL and how does it make sense to call reese doing dirty work for her rebounds when most of the time, especially lately noone else is challenge for a rebound...how is that dirty work when noone challenges for a rebound? yah, u see her stats and assume "she doing the dirty work"...but when you watch, she doesnt even have to sweat or challenge for the rebounds LOL

[@learning_the_hard_way]

AR is overrated. I believe my eyes over cherry-picked stats. This video is going to age like fine milk.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

What's cherry picked?

[@learning_the_hard_way]

I bet a lot of ignorant people watching this garbage video is going to regurgitate this nonsense. 😂

[@lesrachwilliamsalvarez3523]

Lmao your way off

[@EverFox-cw2ho]

Angel is the GOAT. People are completely obsessed with her, particularly Caitlyn:s fanbase. They can't even pay Clark a compliment without mentioning Angel. It's wild....lol! Go Angel!! They're mad because you're doing it right.

[@destinypirate]

Dude takes turnovers as his second stat, which no one has ever done ever, LOL😂😂😂😂 Skips blocks 😂😂😂 equates rebounds to having the same value as assists😂😂😂😂 negates Clark's advantage in points due to shots but does not negate turnovers due to usage and the many more blocks and steals😂😂😂😂 Equates a bigs shooting % to a guards😂😂😂Ignores that adv. Metrics don't distinguish between Biggs and guards and overall impact on the game the guards have😂😂😂 doesn't know that these metrics average in all games including lopsided losses so a player could win the 10 games by one point and lose one game by 30 points and and have worse metrics than a player whose team did the opposite 😂😂😂 know the fever started with a series of big losses as they were tossed into 10 games in 19 days, the worst schedule ever made in the history of the WNBA😂😂😂😂

[@JGreez]

Much like Kentanji Brown Jackson was the first DEI Supreme Court justice, if Angel wins, she’ll be the first DEI WNBA Rookie of the Year.

[@colleenposadas8415]

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@ctbt1832]

Angel Reese is rookie of the year

[@user-or1dn7mj8o]

Angel Reese is mud 22 is the truth the best and the new sheriff of the wnba. The most 25 and 5 games Triple double club of 1 Leads the league in point production More blocks and steals than fake Barbie And she's only played in 9 percent of major games but accounts for 50 percent of revenue Let's not talk about her commanding major arenas and getting standing O's in the opponents stadiums. Caitlin Clark is without a doubt the real damn deal. Angel Reese is no more than a weave wearing fake Barbie that has a decent hustle game. PERIOD.... BTW boycott the USA women's basketball games.l

[@lilikaramirez1848]

😂😂😂😂 Cc is clearly better

[@EverFox-cw2ho]

If that were true, you people wouldn't waste your time talking about Angel non stop. The obsession with Angel is real, people have been stressed over her since the moment she raised her hand and took the championship. Folks have bent over backwards trying to break her but she's like a phoenix, she keeps rising and rising. Go Angel!! ROTY!❤❤

[@EddieBuie-fk6gi]

😅😅😅😅😅 yeah right

[@lilikaramirez1848]

@@EverFox-cw2ho I said CC is clearly better...I never mentioned AR...you did.😂😂😂..go smoke some bud dude and take a chill pill

[@nard75]

Lies

[@EverFox-cw2ho]

@@lilikaramirez1848 You didn't have to mention her Einstein, we all know who you're talking about. You certainly didn't click on a video about Caitlyn and Santa Claus. Angel is clearly living rent free in that head.

[@craigandnem4597]

Wait a minute… so, Caitlin Clark really isn’t the best player to ever play in Earth and Space Jam’s Galaxies?

[@Makneuro07]

Everybody knows Reese has way more natural star power on and off the court.

[@marcleblanc6293]

LMFAO.....THAT STATEMENT IS SO F..KING FUNNY.

[@lilikaramirez1848]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 How can u say these things with a straight face

[@EverFox-cw2ho]

She definitely is. You honestly don't need stats to tell you that, the total obsession people have with Angel is proof.

[@user-or1dn7mj8o]

Everybody knows that Angel Reese wears slutty shorts with weave and caterpillar eyelashes. 22 is the truth the best and the new sheriff of the wnba. The most 25 and 5 games Triple double club of 1 Leads the league in point production More blocks and steals than fake Barbie And she's only played in 9 percent of major games but accounts for 50 percent of revenue Let's not talk about her commanding major arenas and getting standing O's in the opponents stadiums. Caitlin Clark is without a doubt the real damn deal. Angel Reese is no more than a weave wearing fake Barbie that has a decent hustle game. PERIOD.... BTW boycott the USA women's basketball games.l

[@Makneuro07]

@lilikaramirez1848 if you saw caitlyn in public and didn't know her you wouldn't give her a second look or thought. Reese naturally attracts more attention and has more charisma

[@enriquemendoza8650]

Load of crap

[@clarkkent1521]

We know all these so called analytics are flawed algorithms when they grade Clark as 0.1 for offensive win shares.

[@DarkBlackTimes]

So the advanced analytics are biased against CC? She has the lowest PER of any Allstar by far. Also DWS and OWS. Putting up a lot of numbers doesn't equate to winning. Just ask James Harden. She's basically a version of Jarden dominates the ball on offense and doesn't play defense. James Harden got an MVP so that's not really a knock for those saying I'm "hating"

[@kingmichaeljacko2923]

No there not because turnovers count in the stat. Before today she had 42 more turnovers than anyone else in the league. It's a stat...deal with it!

[@adriangriffith42]

​@DarkBlackTimes maybe you could make a video comparing the top assist players in the league against their turnover numbers. You gotta admit CC is an elite baller so does her high turnovers correlation to her volume of passes? You're the the guy to show receipts on that conversation.

[@adriangriffith42]

I just checked out basketball reference... Clarke is way in front on turnovers but didn't even make top 20 on the turnover percentage list..?? 🤔

[@Lee65100]

@@DarkBlackTimesWell, let’s be honest, here. If Caitlyn has the lowest PER of any all star “by far,” something might be a bit off with the overall calculations. Most of us that watch basketball know and understand well that a players teams ability to convert can ultimately hamper PER as well as other advanced stats. At least half of Caitlyn’s turnovers are fumbled passes, and that’s understandable because she’s a great passer and most players need to adapt to that kind of distribution process. It’s fast passed and opportunistic, and if her teammates aren’t aware of the opportunities or simply can’t catch them, it puts pressure on a point guard regardless of how good they are. That’s not conjecture, that’s simply the rules of the game. Hence why I think a more wholistic approach to data presentation might be needed. I’m not going to try and argue one way or the other, but here’s why this is true: If we’re talking about historic seasons, Caitlyn has the only rookie triple double ever, including the only player (not rookie, but player) in WNBA history to ever have the following: 381 Points, 175 Assists, 136 Rebounds, 65 3PT made, 35 Steals, 20 Blocks……and there are still 17 games left…she also leads the entire WNBA with the most points scored or assisted on. There is nothing average about these numbers, they are exceptional and historic in nature. Angel has also had a phenomenal run with 14 straight double doubles, and she leads the entire WNBA in rebounds. She’s also the better defender. That’s exceptional, and we need to give Angel her flowers. However, to disregard Caitlyn’s accomplishments only to engage in a vacuum stats debate may not be the best way to go about evaluating their games. All things considered, Caitlyn has had the most historic rookie season. Whether it’s NBA or WNBA, those kinds of players often win and should. That said, there is plenty of basketball left and I’m looking forward to both these great players making more history. I’m here for it, and cheering them both on.

[@ThePfockerchief]

What a joke

[@introjo1]

Where's the joke? Advanced analytics?

[@J.Price305]

We all see it only the haters need analytics to see Angel Reese is way better than CC and provides more to her team than CC

[@ghostofsupreme]

Angel Reese rebround stats are false stat because she misses her own shot within 1 or 2 feet get 6 offensive rebound of own miss shots which is wild to me that you didn't bring that up but Bring up Clarks turnover stats to prove idk what but Clark is ROTY that fact you think Fever would be where they are if drafted anyone else they would be below the mystic's picking 1 or 2 in next year's drafted, and let's be honest her if AR WAS ON THE MYSTIC SHE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TO IN PROVE THAT TEAM THAT BASE ON FACT BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT DO IT IN HOME START OF MARYLAND THAT WHY SHE TRANFER TO LSU WHERE THEY WERE OTHER 5 STAR PLAYER THERE GET THAT QUICK CHIP. AS SEEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR SHE COULD NOT GET IT DONE AND STARTED CRYING ABOUT STUFF THAT SHE PUT OUT THERE. STOP HATE ON CLARK JUST BE REAL ON TOPIC BECAUSE IT SEEM TO ME YOU CAN'T MAKE LEGIT CONTACT. GOT MAKE STUFF UP TO PROVE YOU RIGHT WHICH YOU ARE NOT EYEBALL TEST SHOULD BE THE ONLY RELATABLE THING. THAT WHAT SAY ABOUT CURRY LOOK AT HIM PEOPLE WANT SHOT FROM FAR DEEP.