Calculating Isoelectric Point of Proteins (Example)

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@aarondesalvio
@aarondesalvio 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this was explained incredibly well! One piece of advice for anyone who's confused: keep in mind whether or not the side chain is neutral or positive in the protonated form. This is relevant for the COO- group, where it is NEUTRAL when protonated, as opposed to an NH3 group that is POSITIVE when protonated.
@SouthpawC
@SouthpawC 4 жыл бұрын
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@lazer1235
@lazer1235 9 жыл бұрын
Very well explained, best video I have come across on youtube that explains this principle thus far
@AKLECTURES
@AKLECTURES 9 жыл бұрын
lazer1235 Thanks! I appreciate that :)
@elenakhachaturyan8146
@elenakhachaturyan8146 9 жыл бұрын
+lazer1235 Totally agree!!!
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@superoxidedismutase5757 7 жыл бұрын
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@thubelihlesithole5184
@thubelihlesithole5184 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused, I'm not quite sure why you concluded the two acidic amino acids as neutral and not positive.
@official.rajarshidutta
@official.rajarshidutta 3 жыл бұрын
exactly my doubt
@kritankunwar4776
@kritankunwar4776 3 жыл бұрын
@@official.rajarshidutta I think its because glutamate and aspartate was negatively charged hence oxygen has a negative charge to start with so when you add hydrogen that makes it neutral.
@pfeliciano4062
@pfeliciano4062 3 жыл бұрын
So if the PH is within 1 unit away from the Pka the charge remains neutral. You see that we chose 3.5 as a guess for the PH, and the difference between that Ph=3.5 and Pka-4.1 is 0.6 and this is within the range of 1 unit away. You cannot have greater or less than that 1 unit. also if you are wondering why we did not just use a PH of 4.1, that is because for our second step we need to pick the pka values that are above and below our PH estimate, so as we knew we needed to pick a value within 1PH unit away from that Pka, we chose the PH close close enough to 4.1. Hope this helps and God bless your studying!
@sonjak8265
@sonjak8265 2 жыл бұрын
@@pfeliciano4062 thank you
@yazan4mjad
@yazan4mjad 2 жыл бұрын
Simply when pH goes lower than pKa of the carboxylic group which is 4.1, the carboxylic (-COO-) group will be protonated (-COOH) and it will have no charge, thus it is considered neutral.
@reubent5780
@reubent5780 9 жыл бұрын
AK LECTURES Hey great video ..one thing that i'm a bit stuck on is why pka of 4.1 was neutral at pH 3.5 for the first example and why it was neutral for pka of 8.3 at ph7 in the 2nd example. thanks
@marchizaaa
@marchizaaa 9 жыл бұрын
reuben Thomas george At pH=3.5, the Carboxylic group (pKa 4.1 in the picture) is neutral because is protonated,so you have a COOH group without charge. At pH=7 is the same...the SH group of the cysteine (pKa 8.3 in the picture) is neutral because it can do only 2 bonds, like an hydroxyl group ( OH), and because of this is neutral (it's difficult that O and S do 3 bonds,usually on organic molecules they are unstable in this state)...it has no charge. If we were at pH= 10 , the cysteine would be S- with a negative charge ( the -SH group would lose a proton because of OH anion forming H2O). I hope it is clear now. See ya!
@thepowerofpositivity8075
@thepowerofpositivity8075 9 жыл бұрын
+reuben Thomas george Jus follow the simple rule if (1) the compound is a weak acid then the protonated form will be uncharged (AH) and the deprotonated form (A) will be negatively charged;(2) the compound is a weak base then the protonated form (BH) will be positively charged and the deprotonated form (B) will be uncharged. The tendency a compound will donate or accept proton depends on pH of the solution. Hope this help!
@the.angeltaylor
@the.angeltaylor 5 жыл бұрын
@@marchizaaa I don't really see where the COOH group is pronated
@marchizaaa
@marchizaaa 5 жыл бұрын
@@the.angeltaylor a COO- group (pKa = 4.1) gets protonation at pH 3.5. Therefore becomes COOH group, a neutral charged one.
@the.angeltaylor
@the.angeltaylor 5 жыл бұрын
@@marchizaaa thankyou so much!!
@thepowerofpositivity8075
@thepowerofpositivity8075 9 жыл бұрын
Jus follow the simple rule if (1) the compound is a weak acid then the protonated form will be uncharged (AH) and the deprotonated form (A) will be negatively charged;(2) the compound is a weak base then the protonated form (BH) will be positively charged and the deprotonated form (B) will be uncharged. The tendency a compound will donate or accept proton depends on pH of the solution. Hope this help!
@andrewcho9779
@andrewcho9779 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I got very confused on this section and my professor wasn't of much help on figuring out how to to this but looking at this, I realize that it is much more simple than we think!
@chillstep4life
@chillstep4life 8 жыл бұрын
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@Horsin4years
@Horsin4years 9 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful. I like that you explain the steps very clearly and make a point to separate them out.
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@pj10red 6 жыл бұрын
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@TonilaineC 8 жыл бұрын
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@funnysjoker 8 жыл бұрын
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@zay7968
@zay7968 8 жыл бұрын
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@AKLECTURES
@AKLECTURES 8 жыл бұрын
+Shadow walker Thanks! I appreciate that! best of luck on your exam, let me know how it all turns out!
@britforlife32
@britforlife32 9 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand how to calculate pI before this, but now I do! Thank you so much, it's much appreciated
@catherinepaciotti3800
@catherinepaciotti3800 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video. Did you forget to take into account the pka of cysteine?
@Nanyaq
@Nanyaq 9 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Thank you so much --this really helped me before my biochem exam! :)
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@penelopetaylor8384 7 жыл бұрын
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@YaacovPsuturi
@YaacovPsuturi 6 ай бұрын
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@TheToxicMegacolon 4 жыл бұрын
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@jalehnikfarjam9844
@jalehnikfarjam9844 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clear explanation!
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@jacksonwestaway3376 9 жыл бұрын
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@amerain1729
@amerain1729 6 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful. Thank you!
@pratibhamali3845
@pratibhamali3845 8 жыл бұрын
this is very helpful to me.thank you so much.
@abayady1
@abayady1 8 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, thank you! However, I have a question, why don't you count the charges of amino acids individually? For example, Aspartate and Glutamate are both negatively charged aa, but you do not address their charge, and start as if they were neutral? My professor does count them. Would love to hear your feedback
@blehm8400
@blehm8400 6 жыл бұрын
Basically, the easiest way I found to think about it is this. At a very low pH (e.g. pH 1) there is a high concentration of H+ ions (this is what pH measures). Therefore, anything that can accept a H+ ion will do so. This includes aspartate and glutamate which you'd normally think of as being negatively charged due to the COO- group they both have at the end of their side chains. When we raise the pH to 4.1 (the pKa value of aspartate and glutamate) they will accept a H+ ion and the COO- group will become COOH. So basically, start from a low pH , where everything that can be protonated (contains a H+ ion) is protonated. Look at the overall charge of the peptide. Then increase the pH and each group with a pKa value will be deprotonated (lose a H+ ion) at its pKa value. At each pKa value, note the new overall charge of the peptide. Keep doing this until you find the 2 pKa values that you will average to get the pI (isoelecric point). Hope that clairifes it.
@crystalguerreromorris7102
@crystalguerreromorris7102 5 жыл бұрын
Your explanation was flawless, I finally comprehend!!!
@shaboatrad4066
@shaboatrad4066 8 жыл бұрын
Aw.. why not using the pka of S-H which was 8.3 instead of 8.0 ?! Isn't that wrong?
@gorkemnailaydn1524
@gorkemnailaydn1524 2 жыл бұрын
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@asie5651
@asie5651 8 жыл бұрын
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@MultiSamSami
@MultiSamSami 6 жыл бұрын
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@AP-lj5qe
@AP-lj5qe 9 жыл бұрын
amazing video, very clear explanation. I am glad to watch this video because my professor explanation is sucked.
@omarrosario1489
@omarrosario1489 8 жыл бұрын
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@TheMachomaniac
@TheMachomaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Dont guess. Start with a fully protonated protein and solve towards a higher pH until you find the answer, a neutral peptide. The you find the pKa range and can solve the pI.
@crackers0413
@crackers0413 11 ай бұрын
Hi, I’m a little confused. The pka of the NH3 of Cysteine is 10.7, so averaging 4.07 of glutamic acid and 8.37 of cysteine gives 6.22
@ahalyalenka7358
@ahalyalenka7358 8 жыл бұрын
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@simrankaur11
@simrankaur11 8 жыл бұрын
That was very well explained! Thank you.
@syyylvo
@syyylvo 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear and coincise!
@jacobboeckelman3691
@jacobboeckelman3691 7 жыл бұрын
This helped out so much. Thanks!
@caiquebarreto6498
@caiquebarreto6498 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome explaination!!!
@enricotortelli3642
@enricotortelli3642 4 жыл бұрын
You literally saved my life!
@tomasaguilar3017
@tomasaguilar3017 6 жыл бұрын
You make this too easy to understand it makes me question if Biochemistry is even a difficult subject......
@remyakin7198
@remyakin7198 8 жыл бұрын
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@shivansh709
@shivansh709 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! Helped me in my aits!
@kareemm8608
@kareemm8608 4 жыл бұрын
My issue with a pH of 3 is that there will be a fractional charge in the COO- terminal so it won't necessarily be -1.
@the.angeltaylor
@the.angeltaylor 5 жыл бұрын
Why would the charges for the first example be neutral?
@buluchka
@buluchka 8 жыл бұрын
I feel this will save my biochem grade, Thank you.
@salam495
@salam495 8 жыл бұрын
thank you alot !
@walaahussein462
@walaahussein462 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. How to calculate PI for modified peptides such as lantibiotics?
@roblingbling
@roblingbling 7 жыл бұрын
great videos!. If you figure out that a 15kDa protein has a PI of 9.71, and then it forms a homodimer. Does that affect the PI?
@AndreasChristodoulou99
@AndreasChristodoulou99 3 жыл бұрын
I love you for this video sir
@chanchalmaji1456
@chanchalmaji1456 7 жыл бұрын
Again thanks for this
@Kka-ong-the-cat
@Kka-ong-the-cat 8 жыл бұрын
Super helpful
@DefenderX
@DefenderX 5 жыл бұрын
Is the pka value for each functional group in each amino acid accurate? Or do they vary depending on the peptide sequence and potential folding?
@monday2471
@monday2471 8 жыл бұрын
do you exclude the pKas of the terminal groups when calculating the pI?
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@RandomNooby 4 жыл бұрын
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@SoraKimchi
@SoraKimchi Жыл бұрын
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@zena1212
@zena1212 8 жыл бұрын
I finally get it thank you so much!
@junczhang
@junczhang 8 жыл бұрын
thanks!!!
@lovelly2
@lovelly2 4 жыл бұрын
For problem 2, I don't understand why cysteine did not gain a positive charge. The pH is less than the pka which means it should have been protonated. I understand the charges for all the others but do not understand your explanation of cysteine.
@the.angeltaylor
@the.angeltaylor 5 жыл бұрын
This is confusing, why do the rules apply to one part of the protein and not the others? What makes the Cysteine side chain group different that the others? What makes the pka of 4.1 in the first problem different than the other parts of the protein? Can somebody break this down please?
@lorcanokane5128
@lorcanokane5128 3 жыл бұрын
Much better than my professor
@yaarithanan1994
@yaarithanan1994 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@mauimanman5498
@mauimanman5498 6 жыл бұрын
In the second problem where the pka is 8.3 why is it neutral?? wasn't it suppose to be positive because the pka was above the ph?
@soumyamajumdar7929
@soumyamajumdar7929 6 ай бұрын
can you please find the pI for ala-arg-gly.
@nunuchaa
@nunuchaa 5 жыл бұрын
what kind of protein doesn't start with methionine
@sharmaeaselearningbiologyc5277
@sharmaeaselearningbiologyc5277 4 жыл бұрын
Sir thanku from india
@dblkarno
@dblkarno 8 жыл бұрын
how do you know that the pKa of the H2N of the Asp. is 8.0?
@lixx1414
@lixx1414 7 жыл бұрын
My teacher gives them to us
@ansammkh1681
@ansammkh1681 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@husamidrees4609
@husamidrees4609 9 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@chamandeepkaur2177
@chamandeepkaur2177 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. You're the best :-)
@leonardmulenga6021
@leonardmulenga6021 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand when it comes to the estimations How those where becoming neutral instead of +
@celestial4646
@celestial4646 6 жыл бұрын
thanks from a local ub student ;)
@anyamiller514
@anyamiller514 7 жыл бұрын
Why does Gly have a pk value? I wasn't aware that it had an ionizable group.
@anyamiller514
@anyamiller514 7 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it just be ignored in the calculation?
@jadzgburella2068
@jadzgburella2068 7 жыл бұрын
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@jadzgburella2068
@jadzgburella2068 7 жыл бұрын
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@hasanciftci9432
@hasanciftci9432 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@MsTommyknocker
@MsTommyknocker 8 жыл бұрын
I tried calculating the isoelectric point of the polypeptide with the following sequence: KRHKKDE. I got the pI to 11.51, but expasy protein parameter calculator got it to 9.74 or something like that. Could you clarify???
@jdevola999
@jdevola999 8 жыл бұрын
+MrTommyknocker I agree -- it seems like none of these calculators agree. Why is that?
@czechmeoutbabe1997
@czechmeoutbabe1997 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why sometimes he says the higher pKa means that it has a *positive charge* at a pH, but sometimes it has a *neutral* charge at that same pH value. They're both above the pH, I don't see the difference.
@gabrielwinces6606
@gabrielwinces6606 6 жыл бұрын
well explained
@pathbasics
@pathbasics 4 жыл бұрын
So SH can't gain any more protons when its pka is above the ph? 12:35
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@niloofarfam4294 8 жыл бұрын
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@TheBollywoodCritic 7 жыл бұрын
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@tatendawarima4607
@tatendawarima4607 9 жыл бұрын
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@AKLECTURES
@AKLECTURES 9 жыл бұрын
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@davehileri7072
@davehileri7072 2 жыл бұрын
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@joancalatayudvernich1237 9 жыл бұрын
GREAT!
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@davehileri7072 2 жыл бұрын
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@lixx1414
@lixx1414 7 жыл бұрын
QUESTION, SOMEONE HELP PLZ :D why are the pka=4.1 neutral with the guess of ph= 3.5 ?? shouldnt they both be positive...bc theyre above the guess??? leaving the over all charge to be +2?? help plz!
@lixx1414
@lixx1414 7 жыл бұрын
+AKLECTURES
@franciscoisidro3622
@franciscoisidro3622 2 жыл бұрын
I srsly don't know how you got the pKa of NH3 as 8
@ElizabethRey97
@ElizabethRey97 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I didn't even start college and I perfectly understood this :)
@harinisuresh456
@harinisuresh456 5 жыл бұрын
How come you have solution for all my assignments!!
@ZippyandOllie
@ZippyandOllie 7 жыл бұрын
wait, so why are the 4.1 neutral again?
@shanikhan00
@shanikhan00 7 жыл бұрын
Because they were COO(-) to begin with. 4.1 makes it larger than the pH of 3.5, therefore they will gain an H and become COOH (neutral)
@nurfatiniafiqah1952
@nurfatiniafiqah1952 8 жыл бұрын
Good ... its helpful .. so we must memorize all the structures of amino acids? OMG ..
@123Rukhsaar
@123Rukhsaar 8 жыл бұрын
isn't it 2 similar points take an average of them in example 2 wouldn't it be (8.0+8.3)/2=8.15?
@soniproductionz
@soniproductionz 8 жыл бұрын
+Rukhsaar A Close, it is similar points around the average pH at which the net charge is 0. In example 2 that was pH of 7 so similar points around that pH of 7 would be 8.0 and 4.1.
@rahimshah5859
@rahimshah5859 6 жыл бұрын
very helpfull
@Dezzy7model
@Dezzy7model 9 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand in the second example the S_H part why \ how is it neutral when others are gaining or losing? besides it's pka value is 8.3 which is above 7 the pH value.!!!.??? pls help a broda out... 😱😨😤😡😫😓😭
@midgetking101
@midgetking101 9 жыл бұрын
+Dezzy7model Since you are asking, I assume you haven't taken organic chemistry yet. There is a way to determine just by how many bonds it has. For this video, for sulfur specifically, it's probably just easier to remember that R-S-H will not be charged while R-S will be negative.
@Dezzy7model
@Dezzy7model 9 жыл бұрын
+Yegor Rowan if that's the case then it should be -1 not neutral or 0??? but thanks for the reply. actually I took organic chemistry but we didn't cover sulphur affiliated stuffs.
@thepowerofpositivity8075
@thepowerofpositivity8075 9 жыл бұрын
+Dezzy7model Hi! Jus follow the simple rule if (1) the compound is a weak acid then the protonated form will be uncharged (AH) and the deprotonated form (A) will be negatively charged;(2) the compound is a weak base then the protonated form (BH) will be positively charged and the deprotonated form (B) will be uncharged. The tendency a compound will donate or accept proton depends on pH of the solution. Hope this help!
@Dezzy7model
@Dezzy7model 9 жыл бұрын
+Mien Le Am grateful for the response... but Can you connect it to my sulphur questions? because am guessing cysteine is a weak acid...
@thepowerofpositivity8075
@thepowerofpositivity8075 9 жыл бұрын
Hi there again. Nothing new my friend the same rule as I shared with you. First of all, let's review the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation because this will help you clear the concept: pH = pKa + log [deprotonated "absence of "H"] / [protonated "presence of H"] so if a compound is (1) a weak acid: pH = pKa + log [A neg charge] / [AH no charge] or (2) a weak base: pH = pKa + log [B no charge] / [BH pos charge] Now apply this equation for Cysteine in the video: pH: 7 pKa: 8.3 (to simplify the math say it is 8) plug these values into the equation (1) for weak acid because we agree Cysteine is a weak acid 7 = 8 + log [A neg charge]/[AH no charge] minus 8 for both sides and rearrange: log [A neg charge]/[AH no charge] = -1 get rid of log both sides [A neg charge] / [AH no charge] = 10 to the power of negative 1 Rewrite: [A neg charge] / [AH no charge] = 1/10 or: [A neg charge] : [AH no charge] = 1 : 10 so obviously you can see that the concentration of AH (no charge or neutral form) is greater than A (neg charge form). This means at pH 7, Cysteine has tendency to be neutral or no charge.
@superoxidedismutase5757
@superoxidedismutase5757 7 жыл бұрын
Explanation was so good I raped the replay button.
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