Calibrating Studio Monitors To Work In Any Room: Warren Huart - Produce Like A Pro

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Several months back we had the chance to review both Kali LP-6 monitors and the Sonarworks software and were very impressed by both!
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@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Friends! Please leave a ton of comments for the 3 of us below! We've teamed up with Kali Audio and Sonarworks to show you how to calibrate studio monitors to work in any room! The best part about this video is that you can win the new Kali LP-8's and a copy of Reference 4!
@jasonames5101
@jasonames5101 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Warren! What are your thoughts on the LP-6's vs the LP-8's for a bedroom/studio environment? Would you take one over the other here?
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, I've got top say the LP-6 is pretty darn amazing for the price!! Extremely impressed!
@jasonames5101
@jasonames5101 5 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Roger that. See you in the academy!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason! See you in there my friend!
@EasyHeat
@EasyHeat 5 жыл бұрын
Winning this contest could save me. Oh my goodness. Best of luck to all! Cheers!
@nicholasedgett7889
@nicholasedgett7889 4 жыл бұрын
If they made a software together it should be called Kali-bration
@anthonythompson12
@anthonythompson12 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely Done My friend lol
@jimmiefarmer3022
@jimmiefarmer3022 5 жыл бұрын
I purchased the Kali LP6s as a result of your initial review of them, Warren. I have not regretted the purchase, and after watching this I'm even more confident that it was $300 well spent indeed. Thanks!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Jimmie Farmer wow! That’s amazing to hear!!
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
So glad you like them!
@matthewsweet5232
@matthewsweet5232 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration. The Kali's seem like they would be a great replacement for my 20 year old Event 20/20P's. I appreciate your teaching and sharing style.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Sweet you’re very welcome my friend!!
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously we're biased, but Glenn Fricker did a side-by-side with the LP-6, the JBL 305, and those Events: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqCunZtplqemg6M
@metooblueshoes
@metooblueshoes 5 жыл бұрын
My lp6s just shipped today. And I just started using Sonarworks for the last two weeks through my akg 240s. And yes. It works.
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Roland! I'm sure Nathan and Lee will be very happy!
@metooblueshoes
@metooblueshoes 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are all awesome. Thank you for all your contributions to guys like me in this world. Again, many thanks**
@mvdbeatz4718
@mvdbeatz4718 5 жыл бұрын
I hadn't seen this kind of calibration process. this is great!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
It was great to have Lee here to demonstrate it!
@jorgetenamusic
@jorgetenamusic 5 жыл бұрын
Really interested on the speakers and Reference 4. Thanks so much Warren, Sonarworks and Kali Audio!!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much my friend!
@jheronimusduko7998
@jheronimusduko7998 5 жыл бұрын
I've used reverence 4 for almost 6 months now. And I have to say that I'm really happy with it. I'm producing in a mid-small bedroom and had some trouble with the mid-lows before even after room treatment.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
@JRBerberich
@JRBerberich 5 жыл бұрын
The Sonarworks looks like a nice alternative to Genelec's room correction system (for those of us not using new Genelec speakers). The corrective eq should be helpful for getting a balanced direct sound. It will not change the variable decay times of a room across the audio spectrum, so ringing bass frequencies seen in a waterfall graph of the room's response will remain unchanged. That is where acoustic treatments come in, but building effective bass traps is difficult, costly, and takes up a lot of space if you install enough to be effective. Have you ever heard of anyone using a phase inverted delay to match and cancel the bass modes of a room? I'm not sure it would work, but it would be great if dsp could help reduce the long decay times of sounds in the 30-120Hz range. Achieving balanced decay times in studio mix rooms, home living rooms, and live venues seems to be the final frontier for sound quality and clarity.
@bwall615
@bwall615 3 жыл бұрын
Just installed a pair of LP-8’s in my space. It’s only been 2 days, but I love them so far.
@MelissaAtwell
@MelissaAtwell 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! Very informative. How were the DIP switches set on the backs of the speakers? Did you already adjust the back panel settings to be appropriate for the room, or were they set flat? Thanks in advance!
@randomcustomer2806
@randomcustomer2806 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, Green Mountain State sounds glorious in my 6ft 3" high untreated, exposed-joist and brick-walled cellar! Ultra clean and natural-sounding.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Pete Dennis fantastic! I loved making that album! So incredible that it has done so well!
5 жыл бұрын
For my tiny project studio, Sonarworks Reference 4 has been life changing. Thanks!
@llgms
@llgms 5 жыл бұрын
Did you have the Kali Audio dip switches all set to flat when doing the calibration?
@rolandmarckwort
@rolandmarckwort 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice tools! So basically this software is doing what one would do with an RTA, cabilbration mic, and graphic eq, yes? In the past I would measure the room, see the results on the RTA, then use a graphic eq to boost/cut any nasty frequencies. This software applies correction via your DAW?
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
RTA measures one spot, whilst Reference 4 takes 34 measurements and averages them depending on their position. Using an RTA won’t be able to correct timing differences between the channels as well. As for where the correction is applied, Systemwide app can do it for the whole OS audio. If zero latency is something you require, then a DAW plug-in will be better.
@dashobradors
@dashobradors 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question for Nathan Baglyos of Kali Audio. I have a room that I will transform into a home studio with acoustic treatment. It's a small room: 3 x 3'8 meters (9'84 x 12'47 feet). So, which monitors do you recommend (would be ideal or enough) for a room like that, LP6 or LP8s? I will put a pair of subwoofers too (Carl Tatz advise in PLAP following video). Thank you very much!
@acousticguitar4557
@acousticguitar4557 5 жыл бұрын
Good video! Would be good to know how to treat a room based on the frequency response feedback from the Sonarworks ref 4 : )
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much my friend!
@RichardLainegard
@RichardLainegard 3 жыл бұрын
Where the mini DIP-switches flat on the Kali's? Would have been interesting to see how flat you could have gotten them with and without the DIP's, without even adding Sonarworks. I had a pair of Gennies I did this experiment with and was actually able to get them so flat in that room I didn't need the Sonarworks plug active in the end. Ordered a pair of LP-6, and will try that same method with my Sonarworks mic.
@jimsanger
@jimsanger 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, I'm in a terrible space (bedroom producer) I'm sure this system would help a great deal
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Sanger I’m sure it would my friend!
@stargatewv
@stargatewv 5 жыл бұрын
One of thee most important videos. More on this topic would be a great thing. Other speakers, amps, connection, how to correct, understanding especially what is perfection or optimum equalization and how to read it for exact product completeness. Other software or hardware devices in the home user semi pro range expense side for us common/uncommon folk. So, in the end, when the product walks from the room, everyone is satisfied, with hope that the product is not returned for correction. Does this make sense? More?
@troopin
@troopin 5 жыл бұрын
I was debating 305/306p and Kali seemed iffy until I found out the whole story of how they came to be. I wasn't even aware you had reviewed them until last week.. it'll be awhile before I have the monitors but have joined the academy. What's good to work on in the meantime? As far as mixing exercises.
@peteconz
@peteconz 5 жыл бұрын
bumming I had purchased monitors before learning about Kali. When I add 8"ers, I'll look at them first. Learned about Sonarworks from a previous Produce like a Pro video. Love it. Just sounds right. I use systemwide, so listening to streaming or output from my DAW, I always have it on. Q for Sonarworks, on a Mac is there any advantage to using the plugin over systemwide?
@L.Scott_Music
@L.Scott_Music 5 жыл бұрын
Did you calibrate your iLouds at your mix desk? What is better for a small-ish room, 9.5' x 11' (8' ceiling), the LP8 or the LP6 with a good sub-woofer (that can switch in and out), reasonably well treated?
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't yet Loren! But I will do my friend! I hope you're well!
@L.Scott_Music
@L.Scott_Music 5 жыл бұрын
I am well but for the rain that has been disrupting my work (outside job). But I guess I can make sacrifices for a desperately thirsty California.
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
It depends how loud you like to listen and how much you’re willing to work to get that sub integrated right. LP8’s will go louder than LP6’s, but that 8” woofer won't replace a sub.
@L.Scott_Music
@L.Scott_Music 5 жыл бұрын
These would be for mixing monitors in a home studio so average 85db and maybe a little louder. I will have another system for "Wow" loud.
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
Get the sub and LP6’s then. Just take care with integrating the sub right.
@yamansitar6153
@yamansitar6153 Жыл бұрын
If you use a mixing desk would you put the mike in a channel then to the computer , or just go straight into the computer ,when setting up sonaworks. thanks
@midiman5045
@midiman5045 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Warren, Kali and Sonar works. I was listening with my Sony MDR-V6 and heard the mid range drop massively. I have been a big Tannoy studio monitor fan, but the Kali look really nice and sweet for the price. I know Sonar Works software is non monitor brand specific. I was also thinking about the NS - 6. I hear they are great for mixing since they are very, very flat. I heard that when you first hear the NS - 6 or NS- 8 you are like what the snizzel ( sorry warren LOL ) since there are very different then anything you have heard before.
@JoelLangley
@JoelLangley 2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased Sonarworks 5 and used it to Calibrate both my CLA-10s with a sub, and my KRK Rokit 6 CLs. What an impressive difference. Can't recommend Sonarworks enough!
@mjklein
@mjklein 3 жыл бұрын
If you use a console in your studio, how do you apply the software correction to the monitors that are connected to the console? I think this only works with a DAW and a master bus.
@RodgerCochran
@RodgerCochran 3 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it or it might not have been addressed. Were the Kali speaker dipswitches used at all prior to the calibration using Sonarworks?
@dirtbikeprophet7195
@dirtbikeprophet7195 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I missed it do the monitors come with the calibration mic ? What was the make and model of the calibration mic, please.
@dennisnashville7114
@dennisnashville7114 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been mixing on Event 2028’s for years. When I’m mixing, I always put a reference track of a song I’m very familiar with (of the same style I’m working on) on the top so I can A/B my mix with the professional mix. It really helps my mixes translate better to the outside world.
@emilybowie4592
@emilybowie4592 5 жыл бұрын
What is the main difference between the LP-8 and the IN-8 that hasn't come out yet? I want to get a pair of 8"s to go with the Focal Alpha 65 that I have. Just wondering if I should wait to see if the new ones are something to consider. Also, Sonarworks is great! I had the headphone addition for a good while and recently upgraded to the studio addition. It definitely works.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Emily, the IN-8 is a CoAxial (dual concentric) tweeter that provides extra high mids so it becomes a three way.
@ericlong1157
@ericlong1157 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel. My question is different. I own a pair of KRKs that I purchased in 2014. I get annoying radio station interference nonstop. I am guessing these must not be shielded properly or at all. Any ideas? Also, if there is no solution for shielding these monitors, are there others in the $400-800/monitor range?
@andrewwest4546
@andrewwest4546 5 жыл бұрын
Saving towards the lp-6
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Andrew!!
@andrewwest4546
@andrewwest4546 5 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro thats based off your reviews. I dont have much first hand experience with studio monitors but ive got so much confidence in your judgement. 👌
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's amazing to hear my friend! I"m honoured! I love them because they sound good and they are VERY inexpensive! I can stand behind them for pure value for money!!
@darrenross9168
@darrenross9168 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Warren, Lee and Nathan, great demonstration, thank you all, Darren Ross.
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Darren! You Rock!
@jacobwhite936
@jacobwhite936 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Would have loved to hear a pair of 550's in left/right ear positions to really hear the difference. I think this with roomeq will have a huge impact on home studio response.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting idea Jacob!!
@annoybot
@annoybot 5 жыл бұрын
Getting these 3 guys in a room workshopping on this - I already won!
@aleksanderdjuran8010
@aleksanderdjuran8010 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always Warren! Been looking at the Kalis for a while now and im stuck between the LP-6es and the Focal Alpha 65s. Any tips there? Thanks!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Aleksander! Those are both great speakers! However the Focal's definitely a better option, but remember they are twice the price! So definitely get what you pay for!
@StamatisStabos
@StamatisStabos 5 жыл бұрын
Another cool giveaway, thanks Warren! i'm addicted to giveaways until i win one :b
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much! Please enter to win my friend!!
@royglennie
@royglennie 5 жыл бұрын
Same here! I can't stop!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Haha very nice Roy!!
@SBG57
@SBG57 4 жыл бұрын
Have a pair of LP-6s that I've been loving in the 6 or so months I've have them... this is the first I've looked into room calibration software, but this seems like a steal for the price
@PSYk1ll4h
@PSYk1ll4h 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about getting a pair of Adam A5x with an 8 inch sub in the future. I noticed you've mentioned Adam monitors in this video. I was wondering how you feel about them as a whole (adam speakers in general, or the a5x). Do you think they're worth the money? Any experience with them? Is 5" too small? And how do you feel about mixing with a sub? I hear they're very hard to find/ treat a room for. But I love my bass.
@tcmixpro9933
@tcmixpro9933 5 жыл бұрын
I had a chance to audition the LP-8's at a local studio recently and was genuinely shocked by how well they held their own next to Genelec 1031A's, which I've been mixing on for decades, and were 10 times the price. I'm a fan of the Sonarworks software as well, but it can't work miracles. In a room with truly horrible acoustics, the frequency response issues are largely caused by reflections - a time domain problem. Trying to rectify a time domain problem by altering the frequency response of the monitors with EQ can actually do more harm than good. It's the equivalent of treating a gunshot wound to the chest by putting on a clean shirt. I have NO doubt Warren already knows this, but maybe some of his viewers don't.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
TC Mixpro yes, indeed. They are remarkably good for the price! I’m extremely impressed! I love being able to recommend them and feel confident that someone is going to get great value for money!
@tcmixpro9933
@tcmixpro9933 5 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Thanks for the reply, and the informative videos. I might pick up a pair of LP-8's myself... they really are a lotta bang for the buck.
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, but it always nice to have a clean shirt on...
@tcmixpro9933
@tcmixpro9933 5 жыл бұрын
@@kaliaudio LOL... Absofreakinlutely!
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
The thing with reflections is that not all of them work in the same manner. If they reach your ears 25ms or less after the direct signal, your brain will basically sum them up as one. This is how you get the peak from desk bounce for example. Now the thing is - you can EQ that peak away completely. As for late reflections after the 25ms treshold, that’s where treatment has to come in. Getting that RT30 in check will help with hearing your mix as it is tremendously.
@rocnroll0065
@rocnroll0065 5 жыл бұрын
Hello....I'm looking for a seasoned opinion of weather to get the Kali Lp8's or the LP6's...? Thanks
@josephvalo
@josephvalo 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Warren as all ways! I have the headphone version of Sonarworks and it works great! But I have a question that maybe you or someone can help me with. When you are done mixing the song, do you bypass the Sonarworks plugin before you print the whole mix, or leave the plugin engaged when you print the mix? That's the reason I haven't submitted any mixes lately. Also I'm going to get a set of Kali Audio LP8 studio monitors as well as the monitor version of Sonarworks as well. Have a wonderful day as well.
@riktascale4
@riktascale4 5 жыл бұрын
@joseph valo you MUST bypass the sonarworks plugin in before you bounce.Then when you listen to it on your computer you can engage systemwide.
@josephvalo
@josephvalo 5 жыл бұрын
steelwiz Thank you very much.
@CRASS2047
@CRASS2047 4 жыл бұрын
Kali audio lp8’s vs Adam audio tv7’s. Which are better?
@michaeltablet8577
@michaeltablet8577 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always a Fun and educational. Thanks again.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
michael tablet thanks ever so much my friend!!
@boldbearStudios
@boldbearStudios 5 жыл бұрын
When Tie Your Mother Down started I couldn't help but jump out of my chair here in the office. My colleagues must think I'm crazy! But hey, better being crazy listening to Queen than having a boring lunch break, haha! Thanks for this rather "correctional" video :-) I really like Reference 4, it made a huge difference in my mixing room (after installing bass traps and mid-range absorbers)! The low mids are much more under control now. One question though: do I really need that 6 to 8 dB of "headroom" in the software? I turned it up to -1 dB and didn't realize any distortion or coloration...
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Warren's studio, for the day, was a "correctional" institution.
@boldbearStudios
@boldbearStudios 5 жыл бұрын
@@kaliaudio Haha, yes, once you're in Produce Like A Pro you'll never get out! But I can live with that! :-)
@TheRobinX123
@TheRobinX123 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Haurt thanks for presenting the video. Such a good experience in listening to your room along with the KALI speakers. It is worth listening to your discussion.
@victorlob4033
@victorlob4033 5 жыл бұрын
nice presentation. I have a question....after the speakers and headphones are calibrated, does the reference 4 software stay on or does it get put away? How does it actually fix the monitors?
@jasonsimmons7479
@jasonsimmons7479 5 жыл бұрын
I believe they measure where your speakers have bumps and dips. Then it uses a correct EQ to fix them.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Victor, yes, the software stays active the whole time! I hope that helps!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed Jason!
@ricolync
@ricolync 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question: I have a room and speakers that produce too much high end - meaning my mixes come out dull and dark. My speakers (Behringer Truth 3031A's) has room compensation switches for high and low freq - now I have everything on flat. Room is not good but with my current acoustic treatment and positioning it's doable. I have found a workaround for the high end in my mixes by tuning them with reference mixes, but would it help if I would turn down the high freq from the speakers? Or just buy tuning software?
@LarryGreenMusic
@LarryGreenMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Can the Sonarworks software measure a room if you are using a pair of near-field monitors and a sub?
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed! I would ensure without the sub personally! This is a great question for Sonarworks themselves!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks for the info Ray!
@bonafontciel
@bonafontciel 5 жыл бұрын
Ray Ferretti does SW does phase alignment for the sub and the mains?
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
It will work with a sub setup, if you’re using two channels routed through the sub and then hi-passed over to monitors. As for assisting subwoofer integration, we don’t do it yet, but we’re thinking of ways how to assist people so they get the best out of their gear. Reference 4, however will help if your sub is badly integrated, but take care that you get it right.
@gatorgrrrlsgarage
@gatorgrrrlsgarage 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome and interesting video, Warren! The party gets rocking at 21:26 wooo hooo. I could seriously use a new set of studio monitors. Thanks!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Enter to win my friend!!
@royglennie
@royglennie 5 жыл бұрын
Party started at 16:20 for me haha!
@JClay-lf7nx
@JClay-lf7nx 3 жыл бұрын
So does sonarworks run as a vst plugin that you assign to your master outputs in order to apply the eq correction?
@muhamedaliismaili
@muhamedaliismaili 5 жыл бұрын
Really excited about how Kali monitors works.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Me too my friend!
@lahattec
@lahattec 5 жыл бұрын
I think something interesting would be to play something relatively uniform, and move the camera (mic) around the room and note how the sound changes in the capture.
@bmusician08
@bmusician08 4 жыл бұрын
So, the light blue curve corresponding to the frequencies of input single and the dar blue the frequency response?
@cziarno1972
@cziarno1972 5 жыл бұрын
Would be interested in hearing your thought on Sonarworks vs GLM/SAM and SMAART? Just sold off my old monitors and am considering Focal Trio's or Genelec's (possibly 1032, 8341/51's or the 8330 Triple SAM) and now Kali's as well!. Demo'd Sonarworks and it was amazing but I did notice (or at least it appeared to me) that the bass was severely rolled off a bit. I did chat back and forth with Sonarworks support and I still was a little unclear on how it works with a sub as GLM/SAM performs some type of time alignment. Our studio is 12x26 and about 90% treated. I am very familiar with SMAART and it does a decent job of flattening. Thoughts?
@cziarno1972
@cziarno1972 5 жыл бұрын
Additionally I hear the "value for money" concept but I heard the comment around "how are you going to do your next studio" and the decision is Focal. Interesting...?
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
We sometimes use SMAART in our lab and it’s a great tool. A smart guy with SMAART can probably do the same thing. Our software is something that’s for everyone.
@cziarno1972
@cziarno1972 5 жыл бұрын
Sonarworks I “hear” ya! ;-). When I demo’d SW I thought I was really nice. The GUI is really good, the wizard is well done and it is really nice to be able to pick profiles on the fly if you multiple reference monitors or different mixes along with headphones. I was a little confused on how to use it with a sub though. I ended up having to run the wizard with the sub OFF and THEN turn it on and feed it in. Was a little confused on that piece. What I heard about GLM is that their is some type of phase alignment running that time corrects the sub or something but I am not sure. I am on the fence between SW with a Focal Trio setup or a 8351 or 1032 Genelec setup with GLM.
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
It really depends how you use the sub. If it’s a separate output channel, then it’s a no go, because Reference 4 is stereo only at the moment. However, if you’re running a throughput connection where sub does HPF stuff for the signal that gets sent off to the monitors, then you should be okay. Running a calibration without the sub and then adding it won’t work right as the software will try to compensate the low-end roll-off of the speakers and with the sub added this might end up being a hump in the resulting response. As for your monitor question, I’d personally go with Genelec 8351’s, as they’re masterfully designed monitors. We admire what Genelec is doing as a company and are actually on friendly terms with them. As for GLM, borrow it from the dealer, compare it to our stuff and see what works for you best. Neumann and Adam should also have interesting offerings at your price range.
@cziarno1972
@cziarno1972 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundIDCreators Thanks for the feedback! Like most folks I went down the rabbit hole really deep. Started at a lower budget (actually demo'd the A7X's and Be Solo's) and just felt they weren't something I could "grow into" as I started on Rokkits and Yamahas as most folks. I did check out the K310's at a music center and wasn't really into them. I also checked out Barefoot, Ocean Way and Dynaudio and just couldn't dig them. IMHO the Genelec's have fantastic image and precision but the Focal come across a bit more natural. The 8" on the Trio does concern me a bit on the low end side... Didn't get a chance to check out any PMC or ATC stuff...
@normandlanglois1475
@normandlanglois1475 5 жыл бұрын
HI Warren…….I do use Sonarworks reference 4 in a pretty well treated Room but only at 70% wet... i find that at 100% the high's are way to bright …..over all it is a good tool to have….once again great video
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing your insight my friend!!
@rlbradish
@rlbradish 5 жыл бұрын
My sonar reference 4 software does not have Kali LP8. Calibration profile. How do I update the list to include Kali monitors? Thanks
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bob, we created that ourselves! Run the calibration in your room and it will adjust accordingly!
@musicting2767
@musicting2767 5 жыл бұрын
great competition for project studios! Had my eyes on the LP8's for a while now
@musicting2767
@musicting2767 5 жыл бұрын
just to add its nice to watch your tastes change as you try new things and learn even after years in the industry.
@Thadeka.
@Thadeka. 4 жыл бұрын
warren what are distances on your speakers and to ur sweet spot?
@royglennie
@royglennie 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Warren, fantastic stuff as usual! Off topic slightly but at 13:20 Nathan mentioned a place in Hollywood, where is he referring to there? Thanks again!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Roy, that's my other Studio, Harmony. It's wonderful tracking room!
@royglennie
@royglennie 5 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Ah Harmony, didn't realise that was your place! So used to seeing you at Spitfire haha! Thanks Warren!
@ontogeny6474
@ontogeny6474 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, mate. Enjoyed the review. The LP6 is impressive indeed.
@bosetb
@bosetb 5 жыл бұрын
I really like my pair of LP-6s...
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Bose that’s great to hear my friend!
@dirtbikeprophet7195
@dirtbikeprophet7195 3 жыл бұрын
Did the mic come with the speakers? What kind of mic was that?
@flavanthensome
@flavanthensome 5 жыл бұрын
How does this work with a DAW. Is it just dropping the plugin on your master bus at the start of every mix or is it something always running in the background? Basically, could you clarify how this interfaces(probably not the correct term) with the other software.
@sonidojamon
@sonidojamon 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! You can use it both ways! As a plugin, last in the chain, and as main whole system output. It creates a new virtual audio device that bridges your audio interface of choice with Sonarworks in the middle
@officialdynmelow4210
@officialdynmelow4210 5 жыл бұрын
Woow.have to get this.thanks warren
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
I,MESENJAH MUSIC Marvellous!
@vipingkumar
@vipingkumar Жыл бұрын
sonarworks is a great invention. i ve been using it .. great . worth buying if u r doing critical mix and mastering..😍😍😍
@theddie5457
@theddie5457 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Got my speakers finally. They need setting up.
@NateMchaggis
@NateMchaggis 5 жыл бұрын
Thought I was watching an old doctor who episode there when he was calibrating those monitors, they should of named that mic the sonic screwdriver lol
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
The Ciderholics haha I love Dr Who!!
@erictimothyanderson7469
@erictimothyanderson7469 5 жыл бұрын
I currently have a pair of avantone mixcubes however I would like to buy a pair of Kali's however I am not sure if I should buy the LP-6's or LP-8's? Any advice would be appreciated, thank you.
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Not just trying to sell you the more expensive ones, but if you can afford the LP-8s, get them. They play louder, have deeper bass response, and much more dynamic range. All this makes it easier to pick up details in your mix.
@erictimothyanderson7469
@erictimothyanderson7469 5 жыл бұрын
@@kaliaudio so basically what is not represented on the mixcubes would be represented in the LP-8's?
@splashesin8
@splashesin8 5 жыл бұрын
So a lot of software echolocation with the mic seems to be involved. Interesting. I totally understand the value of it, however, I'm trying to reform from echolocating. 😂 I think I fell into the habit when my hands were full. I have been working hard this year to be mindful of my own tendency to emit clicking & chirping & shooping sounds. Trying to stop myself from mindlessly falling into that automatic pattern of just, "looking around." Trying to make myself gather the clues the way I mostly used to before I knew I could use echolocation -so- much. 🥳 🤣 I remember when I would practice silent, or "stealth caning," only listening to other things around me bounce -their- sound off the surroundings. Love the sound of that Green Mountain State.
@iconoptixx
@iconoptixx 4 жыл бұрын
what on earth does any of this say...
@bradalford9829
@bradalford9829 5 жыл бұрын
Warren, Thank you for your reviews. I bought the LP-8's after seeing this. Keeping my NS-10's but excited to try something new also. Keep doing these reviews they are great. I trust you and looking at the comments a lot of folks do. :)
@ilyukchiljin7640
@ilyukchiljin7640 5 жыл бұрын
Question for Sonarworks: any plan on implementing a phase correction function in your product in the near future?
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by “phase correction”? This is sort of a trick question, because it can mean many different things.
@ilyukchiljin7640
@ilyukchiljin7640 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundIDCreators Sorry if my question was not well defined. I'm simply asking if sonarworks is planning on implementing a function that allows the user to do time correction of driver units (e.g. another correction program called Acourate does this).
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
We haven’t checked out Acourate, but there’s a multitude of problems with time domain correction. The biggest problem is the lack of a definition what’s meant by it. A simple minimum-phase EQ based frequency domain correction will correct phase problems as well. As in - most natural phenomena which cause frequency domain problems are minimum phase and reversing them with minimum phase EQ will reverse the phase problems as well. Then there’s larger scale stuff like time of arrival correction, so that all sound independent of frequency reach your ears at the same time. Loudspeakers compensated in this manner are sometimes called “phase-linear” or “time-coherent”, but the problem is that this coherence goes out of the window once you start moving around, unless the loudspeaker uses coincident drivers. With non-coax drivers you always change the relative distance from each individual driver by moving your head. Then there’s the question of audibility of phase distortion. The research so far is far from conclusive. It seems like people can hear phase distortion with some test signals in a lab environment, but with music the change was not audible. With that said, we are open to just about anything if it creates an audible improvement. Will look into checking out Acourate. What immediately seems fishy is the fact that it only uses one measurement.
@strikebackstudios7592
@strikebackstudios7592 5 жыл бұрын
Mr.Marvelous!!! its been a long time! ive got alot to catch up on!! THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP!! you are a true inspiration!! i have been wanting to ask... will you be writing an audio/production type book anytime soon? maybe a daily quotes of inspirations libro?>.
@corbyvinson1175
@corbyvinson1175 5 жыл бұрын
This is pretty cool stuff!! I had never seen this done before.
@julianholmanaudio4807
@julianholmanaudio4807 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! How do the LP6's compare to the equivalent krk rocket? I have used the rockets for years as they translate well to high end hifi but would like something more accurate but still nice to listen to. My room is less than ideal unfortunately, it is well treated though!
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Glenn Fricker did a side by side comparison: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIuuY5t9fNl6iac
@peterbrandt7911
@peterbrandt7911 5 жыл бұрын
Yummy, I'm sooooo tempted. Thanks guys!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Brandt wonderful my friend! Hope you’re well!!
@timjenkins8691
@timjenkins8691 5 жыл бұрын
Death on Two Legs!!!!! What a track. I can see Sonarworks being purchased very soon. That and some acoustic treatment for my room. Been hearing great things about the Kali speakers too. Great video Warren. Cheers!
@frantiseksvarc1672
@frantiseksvarc1672 5 жыл бұрын
I saw ad to this program popping on my facebook page. It looks very interesting. Btw, the link doesn't work.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Hi František Švarc, would you mind checking that link again? I just checked it and it works great now!
@frantiseksvarc1672
@frantiseksvarc1672 5 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Checked and entered, thank you very much for quick fix and awesome giveaway. Started my way into mixing two months ago and your channel is awesome source of information.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome my friend!
@jimgnas8617
@jimgnas8617 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question. I like the way it sounds with the wet mix at 9 percent. When at 100 percent it just kills my low end. I have a pair of the Focal Solo 6 with the sub and I like they sound. When at 9 percent it tightens up the low end with an overall improved sound and that seems good. Is it wrong to run at only 9 percent?
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Gnas Only 9%? Seems like a waste. Do your mixes come out better that way?
@jimgnas8617
@jimgnas8617 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't mixed anything yet. I just ran 4 tests to see if I got the same results. Maybe I can do something with the limit controls. I am still trying to figure the limit section out. I may have made the mistake of making the listening point in a perfect triangle of my speakers. In truth I listen about 1.5" forward of this. So far I find Rev 4 pretty interesting but I fear that my room is so small it will not work the way it was designed. @@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t seem unusual for the calibration to attenuate the low end in a small room. It’s where most of the problems are. I’d say stick with it, listen to some reference tracks and try finishing a mix to see how it’ll translate.
@jimgnas8617
@jimgnas8617 5 жыл бұрын
Sonarworks Do you have any advise on how to use the limiters in a small room 15 x 10? Thanks for your time. Awesome product btw.
@SoundIDCreators
@SoundIDCreators 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the Dry/Wet knob? Our advice usually is to leave it alone, unless you absolutely feel that there’s something wrong. Many people will find the calibrated sound strange at first, because they’ ll be used to the old one. The real test is mixing a track and seeing that it translates better.
@mcpribs
@mcpribs 5 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you, as I have been interested in both companies, and all three products.
@spitfiremusic3997
@spitfiremusic3997 5 жыл бұрын
Great give-away!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
@jasonsimmons7479
@jasonsimmons7479 5 жыл бұрын
Planning on buying this software as soon as my finances allow.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Jason! Wishing you and everyone else the best of luck in the give-away!
@jasonsimmons7479
@jasonsimmons7479 5 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro thanks mate!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!!
@iggymak
@iggymak 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You're the best, seriously. Such an invaluable resource.
@Juliano_DJOL
@Juliano_DJOL 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on nearfeild and desktop reference monitors. Like how to use them to mix mids and tell how often and when ubuse them. I know u wanna show off those genelecs!
@Juliano_DJOL
@Juliano_DJOL 4 жыл бұрын
Alot of the big name engineers I've worked for/with mix more on their small desktop speakers than the mains! I think alot of people do the opposite when first starting out!
@iwantappledumplings6187
@iwantappledumplings6187 5 жыл бұрын
Great monitors! Price is VERY right!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed Apple! Amazing price!
@MuzdokOfficial
@MuzdokOfficial 17 күн бұрын
listening to this with my kali mm-6😁
@joshua7233
@joshua7233 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Warren, very informative video.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Joshua!!
@shestudiossheila7423
@shestudiossheila7423 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I can't get the link to work to enter. It says: Page not found.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Here's the link! bit.ly/2GmKdZT
@shestudiossheila7423
@shestudiossheila7423 5 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Thanks, guys : ).
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
It should be working now! Does it work ok Sheila?
@shestudiossheila7423
@shestudiossheila7423 5 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Yes, it works. Thanks : ).
@MarkHolden73
@MarkHolden73 5 жыл бұрын
Hi all, Do you have the Safe headroom on whilst mixing? As I found I needed to turn it off otherwise my mix was way to hot when mixing down.
@audio_odyssey
@audio_odyssey 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Holden , it definitely messes with the gain staging. I’ve found I can use the meters and my ears to adjust the output to be pretty close with it engaged or bypasses and it usable. That has been my biggest issue with it, but the sound in my room is definitely better with it on.
@MarkHolden73
@MarkHolden73 5 жыл бұрын
@@audio_odyssey Thanks I'll be persevering to gain the experience to use it with it on, otherwise fantastic piece of software from first use onward.
@audio_odyssey
@audio_odyssey 5 жыл бұрын
To clarify, I don’t actually turn on the safe headroom function anymore. I just adjust the output manually. Oddly enough, after I commented it dawned on me. The easiest solution is probably to use the headroom function and then use a trim type plugin to reduce the gain by the same amount during mixdown when Sonarworks is bypassed. Not sure why I hadn’t thought of that before 🤯
@MarkHolden73
@MarkHolden73 5 жыл бұрын
good thinking and definitely worth trying
@davidallenhammond2777
@davidallenhammond2777 5 жыл бұрын
Liked and shared. This software and possibly the LP-8s are in my very near future. :)
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
David Allen Hammond great stuff my friend!
@artist1303
@artist1303 5 жыл бұрын
How would one use this software when I have 3 different monitors I switch through while mixing?
@bl6628
@bl6628 4 жыл бұрын
You can create multiple profiles in Sonarworks. Just switch your profile when you switch monitors.
@matthughesproductions
@matthughesproductions 5 жыл бұрын
“Calibration Collaboration” surely could of been worked into the title? 😂
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Hughes Music haha yes, indeed!
@sp0rtbilly77
@sp0rtbilly77 5 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the LP6 white finish
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
YES! That will be very cool!
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, they're gonna be so purty...
@yobhsiFehT
@yobhsiFehT 5 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh, 23:00 ish, I see Trevor Hall on the screen, and my heart is so happy even before you pressed play!
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
1st place: Kali 2nd place: The angels in Heaven singing Bohemian Rhapsody directly in your ear 3rd place: Those new Adams are pretty good.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
yobhsiFehT haha read Kali’s comment! Haha
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Kali Audio haha genius!!
@Juliano_DJOL
@Juliano_DJOL 4 жыл бұрын
Adam's are like 3 times the price too tho lol! Dont think they have the same calibration capabilities either...
@georgeedwards6113
@georgeedwards6113 5 жыл бұрын
That is some extraordinary and amazing technology, very nice! :)
@Zargg71
@Zargg71 5 жыл бұрын
The Kali's are on my wishlist, but will remain there for a long time, unless I win them ;) All the best.
@mcmike100
@mcmike100 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
mcmike100 you’re very welcome my friend!
@ponta6887
@ponta6887 5 жыл бұрын
I love all your giveaways, even tho i havent won one get. But this one is special to me cause first of all i have been really curious about theese språkets and second one of my current speakers actually just broke. So I hope I win this one even more than usual, but if I dont I just do what I gotta do and up my hustle go buy em way. And lastly big thanks for all your great videos, I learned a hell of allt from you and your guests!
@kaliaudio
@kaliaudio 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck Pontus!
@pietrozikik
@pietrozikik 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Petr!
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