non-Boost spacing is awsome ... means you can buy used premium wheels from people who need the latest and greatest
@renjisama46304 жыл бұрын
LeaLöwin You are allright. It’s exactly what I do
@johanoseroff90814 жыл бұрын
@@renjisama4630 So true, im thinking about swapping back to a non boost 27,5 reign advanced 1 i can get dirt cheap just to throw upgrades at it that cost way less then my modern mid travel 29er :)
@peaohvee17844 жыл бұрын
Amount of i9 wheels you can get is crazy
@ryanp39074 жыл бұрын
I’d have to disagree. Non boost only limits your options, as with boost frames you can just get adapters to use an older set.
@ollydickinson21964 жыл бұрын
Ryan P agreed
@SteezyG4 жыл бұрын
I bought this bike for £750 off ebay and its a class leader. If you're in the UK at the moment the limited edition version (Black frame red lettering) is under a grand with frequent sales having 15% - 20% off. At around 900 its the best you'll get for the money. The most luxurious bike is the one you can take out and not be bothered about damaging it. No part is too expensive to change that'll break the bank. Love it.
@danielwoolcock72674 жыл бұрын
I cannot find one of them for sale on eBay. Do you have a link for it buddy?
@SteezyG4 жыл бұрын
@@danielwoolcock7267 hi, it was a local seller sorry! He buys bikes on cycle to work then sells them on for cheaper to the public (seems dodgy I know!) You can usually find them on eBay though around 800. Set up an alert, that's what I did!
@lizandrom64 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you guys are doing this series, its cool to know that you can get a decent bike without having to shell out several thousands of dollars
@one_mtb4 жыл бұрын
Still don’t understand why good Geometry has to cost more money? 🤨Why can’t you just use amazing geometry and budget components? I seriously want an answer so if anybody knows please let me know! Lol 🤔 🤘
@ethancushing33984 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t cost anymore but manufacturers can make more money by putting the more desirable geometry into more expensive bikes
@Pienimusta4 жыл бұрын
You can use the old designs and tooling from other companies - The true Chiense way
@VictorLombardi4 жыл бұрын
I think the term “geometry” is being used here as a shortcut for “engineering”. Geometry can be neatly summarized on a chart. If you want a bike that balances stiffness, compliance, weight, and strength it takes engineering. Engineering requires years of study to understand physics, properties of metals/carbon, modeling in CAD software, prototype construction, prototype testing, etc. All that takes education, experience, expertise, time, and resources.
@dawidos5574 жыл бұрын
Money.
@kevingorzny4 жыл бұрын
Victor Lombardi bingo.
@p31bjp4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, exactly what I needed to hear, I’ve just ordered one of these as my first full suspension bike, and I’m so excited for it to arrive
@richarde13554 жыл бұрын
Did you get your bike? If yes, are you happy with your selection?
@p31bjp4 жыл бұрын
Richard E yes thanks, I’m very happy with it
@JamesBrown-wp1di4 жыл бұрын
@@p31bjp what size did u get and how tall are you? I'm 5 foot 7 and don't know what to gey
@joescott75004 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBrown-wp1di you'll want a medium, but set some money aside for pedals and tyres
@JamesBrown-wp1di4 жыл бұрын
@@joescott7500 thanks man. You have one?
@WesMacaulay4 жыл бұрын
You guys are doing a great service to the sport by giving proper reviews of great entry-level bikes! Kudos to you guys. Seriously.
@mikeyp46904 жыл бұрын
The Calibre Triple B fixes most of the issues you raised with the Bossnut. It does cost £1,499 but I think it's a pretty modest price all things considered.
@Metal-Possum4 жыл бұрын
Bossnut, sounds like the grand finale in a long list of sexual escapades.
@SUPERCOOLZZ4 жыл бұрын
It's what you get after you walk into your boss' office while wearing something sexually provocative.
@BengLang844 жыл бұрын
I love this kind of videos comparing decently priced mountainbikes that I think 80% of the people stats wise would most likely be considering especially for the ones who are still venturing on this ttpe of sport. Thanks for the review Mike on Mike 😀 Ride safe always guys! 😀
@headoverbars87504 жыл бұрын
When I got into bikes in late 90s I thought I needed 1-2k for a dream build... I am an engineer and make a decent wage... Now, granted I suck with money like half the population but I should be able to afford the best shit, I worked hard to get to where I am... now the best shit is 10x more expensive. I make a decent wage, I would argue in there with some docs and dentists that folks love to joking reference in the high end reviews and I still have to buy in at 2k and upgrade over time. Had I gold credit though I would be riding a brand new Forbidden Druid or Unno lol!
@piciu2564 жыл бұрын
Dude this bike is cheaper than the Kona hardtail and has the same spec... Something's not right...
@tehllama424 жыл бұрын
The Kona has fewer throwaway parts (in my weight class), and for what it is the Kona is a more premium product... but that does tell you which way the market is going in. Slap a cheap dropper on this thing, and party on.
@renjisama46304 жыл бұрын
Piotr Sulej same as everything else...we pay the brand first,then the spec...
@mikael27484 жыл бұрын
You can hear at the start of the video that Calibre is a direct to consumer brand. Kona is not. Bikeshops need to make money too, so you can have a place to get your stuff fixed close to home when it breaks.
@Cakeborb4 жыл бұрын
Kona's also American. American products are generally overpriced.
@tehllama424 жыл бұрын
@@mikael2748 Very true - although I've been quite happy to go direct, and bring every task that needs specialized tools or skills to my LBS, and buy all the parts and touch points I want from them too. I don't need an LBS to do basic setup, but ones good enough to rebuild suspension, true wheels, replace bottom brackets, and service pivots ends up getting more business from me, because I can afford to ride my bike more.
@richardlintang82554 жыл бұрын
The Polygon D series warrants a look. Similar concept in terms of price, geo, and spec. Quite popular in the Asian and Australian market too.
@jedimanultra4 жыл бұрын
Bossnut is a really good bike, got one myself and moved the fork travel to 150mm! Feels soooo much better descending
@olivert.71924 жыл бұрын
wow, you really see the frame flex at 6:00 !! Will you guys review the Propain Tyee on video?
@viperrules244 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with frame flex as long as it's not permanently set! If you had an infinitely stiff frame, you'd feel it a lot more and/or it will break way too often!
@JessHines4 жыл бұрын
Just found out about this bike last week and was impressed. Thanks for the great review!
@richardknight51614 жыл бұрын
You sound as surprised by this bike as we all were in the UK when it came out. They're an incredible bike for new riders interested in the world of MTB who don't want to spend thousands until they know for sure they like the sport. Several people I know have bought them, ridden them for a year or so then switched up to a £3000+ bike. The bossnuts hold their value incredibly well, the last guy I knew who sold his (after 18 months) got £900 for it from an £1100 initial outlay. Amazing!
@dano7274 жыл бұрын
I love this series, Great Job !
@rocco.mbb.zoccoli4 жыл бұрын
10:06’ish... Levy failing at holding in a smirk at the name = LuLz! Thanks, to the editor for leaving that in and highlighting it. Lmao!!!!
@zedsnotded44824 жыл бұрын
I have a version of this bike. I’ve got the shadownut it’s the same bike except black with tan wall tyres it’s a great bike
@lewisjones71534 жыл бұрын
Same it's great
@owenrm25664 жыл бұрын
I’ve got that too
@marhgaming63064 жыл бұрын
OMG YES FINALLY! I have this bike and i absolutely love it
@scottie30834 жыл бұрын
I also HAD this bike... Purchashed 3 month's ago it went back this week 😭😭 rear break completely failed and noticed front and rear disc rubs on the frame slightly... Will buy another 1 when there eventually back in stock next
@marhgaming63064 жыл бұрын
@@scottie3083 dang that sucks, I've owned the bike for a little over a year now and I've abused it, I've had hard cases and nothing seems to give, only time something broke was the linkage bolt, but I believe that was my fault since I over torqued it
@scottie30834 жыл бұрын
@@marhgaming6306 without doubt the bike is amazing... Think mine was just one of those things.... The rotten egg! They just need to hurry up amd build some more 😁
@javiersyll57673 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy it?
@marhgaming63063 жыл бұрын
@@javiersyll5767 i bought it used, if you are in the UK then buy it off gooutdoors, and i think polygon has a bike similar to this if your in the US
@TonnahG4 жыл бұрын
When is the grim 🍩 don’t making an appearance?
@John-en4vd4 жыл бұрын
Gage Hannot not*
@mgilby284 жыл бұрын
Love my bossnut it's been a great starter full sus bike with a few upgrades it makes all the difference
@kemalkarakaya38824 жыл бұрын
What kind of upgrades you got mate? Also, why you needed? Thanks
@TeddyParker4 жыл бұрын
Does this mean they are finally shipping outside the UK? Don't suppose you would review a bike that is only available in the UK. They NEED to get thing thing out there and compete with Vitus and Polygon.
@waycon4 жыл бұрын
Also one thing of note is that the bossnut is pretty much always on sale after summer dropping to as low as £850/$1050
@mauricioaspee4 жыл бұрын
I got mine in 2018 and have been very happy with it. Riding everything this summer here in Washington State. Love it! Was going to order their Sentra but they are out of stock. I ordered the Abajo Peak the other day. 12 weeks out. =-(
@headoverbars87504 жыл бұрын
Thank so much for these!! I paid 2000 for a fuel ex with no dropper post, no tubeless tires/rims, mt200 brakes, 11-42 10 speed.... basically crappy components all the way around... But my Fuel Ex platinum aluminum frame is way nicer! I will replace everything else over time so glad I paid a bit more for a good platform. My fork I run 25 psi over with the Recon. How heavy are you geared? They say 75, I did 85 then saw your last video you guys said '20 over'. I tried it and OMG so much better. no more stink bugging but still harsh on jumps. I will try a bit more. I didn't know folks over pressured the cheap forks. Excellent review because I see what is valued in the budget world.
@Curran_E4 жыл бұрын
10:09 when you try not to laugh at Bossnut 😂
@valentinotarona82943 жыл бұрын
I wish you guys would do more affordable bike reviews like this e.g merida, polygon etc, would be awesome for people who want the gateway bike of their noob dreams...
@shanebenham96194 жыл бұрын
Yo! I have the Bossnut, it’s an amazing bike for the money. A note on the tyres...I think Calibre provided a tyre setup for the UK. It’s pretty muddy a lot of the time, and they’ve been pretty good. But yeah, if you’re thinking of starting out, you will be hard pushed to find better value, BIG BANG FOR THE BUCKS 👍🏻👍🏻
@12jamiegavin124 жыл бұрын
I bought a shadownut to replace my buggered Santa Cruz Bronson and it’s been great! I’ve stuck a 140mm pike, 4 pot brakes and tubeless maxxis minion tyres on. My times are quicker on the nut than they were on the bronson which retailed at around 7k new and I’m not far off my downhill bike times on an orange graded trail. Properly good little bike for the money.
@jeromep41484 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a review on the Polygon Siskiu D7 Dropper 29. Any chance?
@christiane32764 жыл бұрын
6:06 when buddys chain almost hits the ground lol
@krazed04514 жыл бұрын
If the sag is correct and the fork isn't excessively bouncy, then it's not over pressurised...
@Primoz.r4 жыл бұрын
One benefit is that 142x12 will be cheaper to upgrade to a fancy wheelset than a boost wheelset, maybe even a used one?
@richellis21404 жыл бұрын
Calibre Trille B would have been a good bike for this test - cheaper than the Giant tested and much better spec - NX Eagle, dropper post and Guide RE brakes plus 140mm fork up front
@ab_mtb4 жыл бұрын
And better tyres. The BBB has an incredible spec for the money
@fjph88264 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Which bike would you recommend to get this year as a budget fully; Callibre Bossnut or Vitus Mythique VR?
@hardtailparty4 жыл бұрын
Well done boys!
@alexdesjardinsmtb54094 жыл бұрын
Hi, could you please (if you have the chance) do a review on the Rocky mountain thunderbolt alloy 10 2020? It’s a 2000$ trail bike whit 140mm of travel up front and at back. thanks, I love your vids
@esdubya4 жыл бұрын
Levy and Kaz. Love your work! You mentioned that this bike was a fast as bikes twice it’s price! Got me thinking 🤔 is it as fast as the top end bikes? So I thinking you go grab your personal bikes do the loop so we can devour the data. Would love to see more mikevsmike and Humbled too!
@sammilburn4454 жыл бұрын
the triple b is definitely the way to go with calibres (if you want a trail bike) as its got a ks dropper, a sektor fork, a nx eagle drivetrain, better tyres, dub bb and guide re brakes, as well as a few other nice finishing parts for only like £300 more. Then there's the sentry, which I recently got for £1700. By far the best value bike on the market, with a yari, super deluxe shock, guide re brakes, ks dropper, wtb rims with Vee tyres, nx drivetrain and dub cranks and a very modern, capable frame, just a bit heavy. Dont notice it on the climbs tho, only when it comes to picking up the bike
@josiahgolding78264 жыл бұрын
I picked up a 2020 yt Capra for 1300 usd.. 170 lyric, 170 super deluxe r, sram nx 12spd, code rs, maxis dhrs and it’s 13.8 kg roughly (think that’s 31 lbs?) good deal and it’s new!
@Bobbleoff4 жыл бұрын
I live near the outdoor retailer who makes the bossnut. Loads of them ripping around Sheffield UK
@richarde13554 жыл бұрын
So, adding a dropper seatpost and changing out the tires, that brings the cost of this bike close to the VItus. With the upgrades, at about the same price, do you all prefer the Calibre or the Vitus?
@tonyhruzek42504 жыл бұрын
How did you guys get a Calibre? I have trying to figure out how to get one in the US. They have an enduro bike that looks great for the price!!
@SDplinker4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't appear you can. I don't get the point of this review - riding a bike in AZ that USA buyers can't get.
@hunkyheyward4864 жыл бұрын
I have a 148 wheel in my 137 spaced aluminum frame, the only problem is the bearings wear out faster and so does the qr
@williamanders74054 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this channel
@dantecalandra23894 жыл бұрын
To bad you can’t get it in the US
@erraldstyler4 жыл бұрын
look into Vitus bikes on CRC, they ship worldwide. the mythique would be the equivalent i guess, but they start to get sold out for this season...maybe they get a restock
@Alan-754 жыл бұрын
Check out UK company BIRD
@erraldstyler4 жыл бұрын
@@Alan-75 they got some good stuff, was looking at their am Zero but in the end i went with the Dartmoor Hornet
@samt734 жыл бұрын
International shipping incoming... hint try Blacks.co.uk
@tarantulasam76094 жыл бұрын
Also look at polygon
@wim9821 Жыл бұрын
Question; i have started upgrading my bossnut. i would like to upgrade the fork next, but finding a secondhand fox non boost fork is...hopeless. iknow its a 27.5 frame but... would a 29" fork and a 27.5 wheel fit? i would also use a boost wheel btw. tried to contact calibre but no answer
@PhaktTheIsolationist4 жыл бұрын
I expected snobbery. Respect for the balanced review. You guys should review the Calibre Sentry Pro, coil-spring Enduro. Much better bike, can still be bought for under £2000 with freely available discount codes.
@LJ-fr1ei4 жыл бұрын
Calibre triple b or Vitus mythique 27 vrs?
@kelvin1987campbell4 жыл бұрын
LJ7, did you make a decision yet? I’m looking at the same price point, the triple b, giant trance and Mythique were all in my consideration. I think I am leaning to the Triple B but want to sit on the bike before buying, hopefully can do in about 3-4 weeks time!
@LJ-fr1ei4 жыл бұрын
@@kelvin1987campbell same, I just can't decide they both look amazing
@geauxtime4 жыл бұрын
my next upgrade will probably be one of these two
@adamlevoir69394 жыл бұрын
Check out my budget bike video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWasmGd4l5JphtU
@marco45704 жыл бұрын
The bolts on that shock linkage look pretty gnarly
@marco45704 жыл бұрын
Haha hadn't even watched untol 8:30 when they mentioned the problem. Sometimes it seems like engineers don't use common sense these days
@darkviper66344 жыл бұрын
I got both tires to go tubeless first time and they haven’t gone down since
@ajs03504 жыл бұрын
TheAwsomeChannel the rims are compatible so idk lol
@joescott75004 жыл бұрын
@@ajs0350 they are??
@ajs03504 жыл бұрын
@@joescott7500 yea says it on them
@JB507134 жыл бұрын
I have Recon forks on my 2016 trekking bought last summer. I don’t see where I can change air pressure.
@MaplePanda044 жыл бұрын
J B There should be a cap labeled “air” on the left side of your fork.
@bendik4074 жыл бұрын
How do you shiped the bossnut to the US. I is not easy to get it outside of the UK.
@TheDoctor46vr3 жыл бұрын
What sag did you run on the fork? I used your formula and ended up with 13.8% sag I then let pressure out to bring it to 20% sag. I have a V2 btw I'll see how 20% goes if it's too soft I'll try 15%
@rossurquhart494 жыл бұрын
Rode the Bossnut V1 & V2 - so much bike for the price, incredible bike
@zaek5038 Жыл бұрын
I have this bike and I've recently bent the derailleur hanger. Does anyone know what hanger is compatible with this bike? Cant seem to find any info online!
@jamesshields59584 жыл бұрын
Are you guys going to look at Calibre's Sentry/Sentry Pro?
@Mububban234 жыл бұрын
Great to see the value end of the market producing such good bikes for us poverty spec riders :-D
@iainramsay15374 жыл бұрын
I set the stock tyres up tubeless with mucoff kit and valves first go??
@CM-17233 жыл бұрын
Think calibre / polygon are Australian but go outdoors sells them in the UK
@petesahad30284 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great beginner fully to upgrade over time👌
@ADVRaiderKTM4 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do an episodes on bikes actually available to buy now?
@bipedalame4 жыл бұрын
I own one. Improved at Cathkin Braes by a mile compared to my more expensive hardtail. Add a dropper post
@24mtb744 жыл бұрын
Feel like you should mention if it has sealed bearings
@joen39924 жыл бұрын
Question: I'm in my 50s, 215lbs. What would the required shock pressure be for a rider like me for the Recon? Sounds like a great bike for someone getting into the sport without spending 3k Canadian....
@holzstueck36054 жыл бұрын
Just look for the right pressure for the shock online! But i think it would be about 120 to 150 psi. :)
@joshbenson80394 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun bike but it needs lots of upgrading... I’m still stuck on the Vitus, and they’re still sold out!
@abadatha4 жыл бұрын
That's a FS trail bike for $100 more than my all-mountain hardtail and the only thing I'd want to change is the brakes over to some Shimano M500 2-pot brakes.
@bayardohurtado3874 жыл бұрын
Buenos días, Saludos desde Medellín Colombia, una recomendación por favor utilizar otro color en el tipo de letra utilizada no se alcanza a leer el color rojo
@yoda1123584 жыл бұрын
What's the actual process like for buying a Calibre in the US? Seems like you have to go through Go Outdoors and they don't have international delivery yet.
@moozlauwereys96244 жыл бұрын
I had mine delivered to a friends house (in the UK) and then got it sent over
@ryankiernan96313 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where i can purchase one? No joy so far, seems to be big demand so surely they will make more ?
@uonadtehrrocks4 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy this in the states?
@SDplinker4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't appear you can. I don't get the point of this review - riding a bike in AZ that USA buyers can't get.
@andrewblewski79263 жыл бұрын
It would be great if you could actually buy one...or really any mountain bike on their website.
@f1nch13123 жыл бұрын
My polygon Vander t7 will be here Thursday 😁😉
@rickmoz4 жыл бұрын
Looks like you should’ve tested the Triple B
@Alan-754 жыл бұрын
True, dropper and better shocks/spec for £1300 or so
@kelvin1987campbell4 жыл бұрын
ALAN BRYANT where have you seen the triple b for £1,300. I have been shopping around and best I can find is the standard £1,500.
@Alan-754 жыл бұрын
@@kelvin1987campbell go outdoors website, sometimes they will knock off another 20% but you have to catch it at the right moment.
@akiraung4 жыл бұрын
I would have got that bike but I can't get it in the USA
@br97604 жыл бұрын
You should be able to ship it for, what, less than $80?
@yaacovr4 жыл бұрын
It seems like this bike is a great entry bike to trail riding. In this case, tubeless wheels might actually be a mistake. Tubeless tires and fixing could be a real hassle even for an experienced biker and might be a deterrent to a new rider.
@robinrai49734 жыл бұрын
Do the frame pivots use bearing or bushings?
@TrialBicycles4 жыл бұрын
An interesting bike in a similar price range would be Octane One OMG
@_Vicarious4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a lot of rear brake force on such a small area that's attached to the frame.
@krazed04514 жыл бұрын
Looks like at least 30mm of weld junction on a well designed riser... I'd be astonished if it failed from use.
@smokedsalmon39074 жыл бұрын
That does look super thin compared to most bikes. Interesting thing to keep in mind. That would suck to have your frame rip apart on you haha.
@exeverrr4 жыл бұрын
This is a lot of bike for the price, I have tested it myself. I have hybrid Cannondale Bad Boy with heavy upgrades to almost everything this felt like all I would ever need if I went for a MTB.
@aamgdp4 жыл бұрын
Hope they'll build it on Shimano next year, sram sx and level are just bin parts.
@axial274 жыл бұрын
This and the polygon siskiu D7 are made in the same factory but the polygon is better value.
@abrychelette51752 жыл бұрын
Where can I get this in the U.S.?
@gulfcitynd4 жыл бұрын
Apparently my Cannondale trail 8 has a setup for a dropper post 500 dollars and I can put a dropper post
@duncanh60454 жыл бұрын
Damn are you saving the Commencal Meta TR till last?
@mattiasvanoverbeke18314 жыл бұрын
I have a $800 bike, its gotten to the point that i am to big for it... (i drive a large now) saving for 2k to buy something better, but not sure witch one
@alfieowens30334 жыл бұрын
What frame size were you testing?
@BrokeGalaxy414 жыл бұрын
For just a bit more you could get the base model bird aeries 145, I've got an old aeries that I picked up for around the same as a new bossnut in mint condition with an ext coil hope parts shimano xt/saint absolute bargain the bike rides amazimg
@victoriathegreencheekconur54773 жыл бұрын
why are the seals white?
@jacobbockover16284 жыл бұрын
I have heard of calibre bikes but have no clue how to buy one
@russellparker45684 жыл бұрын
32.4 lbs! Isnt an aluminium santa cruz bronson like 36 lbs?
@s14tat4 жыл бұрын
A tiny less robust trail bike vs a long travel 27.5 or 27.5 plus bike.
@russelltaylor15004 жыл бұрын
You guys at pink bike Deffinetly buy in to the whole must be 29er must be long must be slack thing. That's great for racing, but most people don't race.... Long and slack is good to a degree, but when things get too long and slack they are hard to throw around
@alcard97834 жыл бұрын
It seems it's exactly the same frame that the Polygon Siskiu D8
@joshua15774 жыл бұрын
So which one are you going with? I was looking at the D7
@illestFlavor4 жыл бұрын
What's the intro song to this series?
@stankygfx98174 жыл бұрын
Is it light or heavy
@williambell_mtb29724 жыл бұрын
Should of reviewed they're £2000 29er enduro bike!
@JesusVasquez933 жыл бұрын
It’s so hard to find a bossnut I want the 2021
@YanDoroshenko4 жыл бұрын
How could the Universe produce such two similar individuals and put them in one company?
@ErExxMASTER4 жыл бұрын
Is it me or the front tier is bigger than back tier