Best bargain full-suspension bike | Mountain Bike Rider

[@k1ng617]

I love how Alan didn't reference $10k+ bikes. So many reviewers of "budget" bikes say, "XYZ is a fantastic bike, but it's no Santa Cruz Super Voloce XXX Black Edition." He makes realistic comparisons between features of bikes within the appropriate range. Everyone knows a 1k bike isn't a 10k bike, but we do want to know what we are missing that other bikes close in price offer. Thank you, Alan!

[@SteezyG]

Bossnut owner here, love this bike. Wouldn't swap it for anything else. Low price means I don't give 2 tosses if I crash or damage it. The most important part is fun. Smaller wheels are more fun for me and it's no fun having no money in your wallet either.

[@SD-vy9ek]

It's a trail bike am I correct

[@talljake]

Well said!

[@nottoday6284]

How do you find the bossnuts' front suspension holds up? I keep reading the 130mm travel is more like 120mm.

[@SteezyG]

@@nottoday6284 it's fine for me but I've never ridden a 120mm bike so I can't really say.

[@nottoday6284]

@@SteezyGThanks, appreciate the reply. Safe riding.

[@JacksJamz]

I always find it pretty clever how the budget bikes use components from different brands. Like my cassette is sunrace, my rear derailleur is shimano deore and my front chain ring/crack is fsa. It isn’t pretty but it works

[@talonforeman1254]

You should do just 500 more, you kind of break through and get great bikes at that point like, hawk hill 2, giant trance 3, vitus mythique vrx and YT jeffsy those are worth your money

[@machohogan]

talon foreman I’m looking at the Trance now. 2021 bike just released on Giant international site.

[@gromhub]

Yt jefsy for 1500 where is this? There like 2350 basic model where I am

[@Chris-de2qc]

@@machohogan is the frame as progressive as vitus?

[@SD-vy9ek]

Are these all trail bikes

[@frankiemazzei8882]

Calibre triple b has NX 12spd a dropper post and a 140mm sektor fork with 130 in the rear. For 400 more than the Bossnut it’s wayyy better value than any of these bikes

[@superspecky4eyes]

I used to have the old Voodoo Canzo, it was an excellent beginner full-suss for the time, but that was about 5 years ago and it looks like this is the exact same frame, with the outdated geometry and a respray. The fact that the seat tube cannot accept a dropper post speaks to how old the frame design is. It seems like they cut some corners with the spec as well, since the old model came with Maxxis tyres and Shimano deore brakes.

[@tizzels]

The 2020 edition allows a dropper and I've installed one and some new shimano slx brakes.. the bike is incredible!

[@caseydelaney9785]

It had tektro breakes not shimanos

[@snoopy10411]

Would be nice to see some reviews of some lesser known brands like Cotic, Stanton, Ragley and OnOne etc. Even maybe Orange too. Seems like most reviews favour the same old bikes from larger manufacturers.

[@sl077766]

I'm on my third Giant Trance (2) that I've had for 3 or 4 years (my first was £1000 entry model) and was looking into getting another but... having got back into motorcycles have decided that, much like any other popular hobby, customers are being royally ripped off. If you can get a brand spanking new 125cc motorcycle for £2100 (Benelli TNT) which doesn't need forks servicing every 10 hours, has far far far more tech and engineering in its construction, then you really shouldn't be paying more than a couple of grand for a top spec full suss mtb. And don't get me started on how quickly things wear out on bikes these days....

[@tonyparkin3379]

Just change out headset bearings for sealed races and your ready.

[@th_js]

But the problem is that most of the people buying these bikes are not going to do that, because they probably don't even know how to remove their fork.

[@stanp2281]

And get a dropper post

[@surfk9836]

@@th_js They may not know....yet.

[@TheCynabal]

@@surfk9836 well said! I was thinking the same thing.

[@calinfloyd]

I ride a budget hard tail and Id say I know most things because I'm always fixing or trying to make my bike better with upgrades.

[@TeddyParker]

I had a RockShox fitted bike before this, thought it was just fine. Got this bike and COULDN'T believe how poorly the X-Fusion performed. Threw a MonarchRT3 on the back and surprise! It feels like a proper bike again. Now I have to set about replacing the fork. I didn't quite have the money at the time, nor was it in stock, but I would have loved to get the VRX instead of the VR initially. Great review. Everything said was exactly how I felt on the trail. It's a good upgrade platform. Like I'm keeping the Deore drivetrain I think it works a treat. But I had to add the dropper and change the suspension and it will take me nearly to the same cost as the VRX. (But I won't be using garbage SX lol)

[@robertwoodhouse406]

The calibre bossnut is now available as the polygon Vander t7 through bikesonline I bought one yesterday and was looking for reviews when I came across information that polygon was the manufacturer for calibre and had rebranded the bike. Great review and can't wait to get my vander/bossnut

[@f1nch1312]

My Vander t7 will be here on Thursday 😉

[@AreebH_04]

I wish my 2016 voodoo zobop had a rear thru axle to make it feel sturdier on the rear but the frame is quite solid for hard riding

[@lewisjones7153]

I Rode Fort William World Cup downhill on my bossnut. It handled all the rock gardens, drops and I even sent the river gap! Amazing bike so glad they're made.

[@dannygarcia4573]

These two together make a great team. They should do a show.

[@jimw8615]

I manage to get my hands on the triple B & Vitus M VR during this period. Lucky me.

[@LeeK9R]

Not sure when this was filmed but the Vitus was £999 pre-covid, before demand drastically overtook supply. i have the VRS with 150mm dropper, 12 speed SX and beefier forks (+10mm travel +2mm stanchions) among other smaller changes for £1150 pre-covid, which is a clear winner for me, and the green looks sick!

[@TE_53349]

i think these vitus' look amazing and perform really well too

[@Rawkus919]

Bossnut looks very much like the Polygon Siskiu models, except with an older square tube rear end. Polygon rear is now nice and smooth.

[@MBRmagazine]

The Calibre is made in the Polygon factory 👍

[@AverageDadMTB]

Polygon baby!! 😎

[@simoncole844]

The V1, V2 and Evo were based on the Polygon Recon from 2014 but with a modified rear end; the rocker linkage became a one-piece design and then the rear axle went from quick release to thru axle on the V2. The latest seems to be a more custom frame but still using the same rear. I guess Polygon are not going to let Calibre use there latest designs as this would weaken their brand but, as they have almost no presence on the UK market, they are happy to develop Calibre's budget, but really good, full suspension bikes. Now Mike Sanderson has gone to Planet X it will be interesting to see if the relationship continues and/or Polygon start developing bikes for Planet X.

[@alexarna]

Interesting you say that - I noticed that too. I've not ridden a Bossnut myself but I rented a Siskiu T8 a few days ago on a trip to Scotland and was totally blown away by the performance, given the cost they go for. My normal bikes are a 2016 Rose Granite Chief with Pikes and full XT and a 2020 Intense Carbine with Ohlins RFX 36 Evo with full XT, Carbon bars, etc, as a point of reference. I'd love to try a Bossnut, just out of general curiosity as I reckon it'd surprise me too

[@jimw8615]

Indeed, I had a triple B that look 95% polygon. Even the factory grip is the same. It came from the same womb. OEM I guess. Is polygon not popular in uk or elsewhere?

[@Mesa3077Boogie]

I could not follow the co host at all at the beginning of the video. But after the intro I appreciated that he did speak his mind and was brutally honest tearing that first "bike" apart

[@jonathandjing1065]

I am definitely saving some money to start my journey in mountain bikes with one of these bikes

[@JAfonsoNunesMartins10]

I think you'll be better with a 800$ hardtail, it's already in the mid-high range of hardtails and you'll learn better with it because you can feel the bike better. I have a 400$ hardtail and I'm already having a blast and hitting jumps!

[@gurjindersinghkang5031]

In USA Polygon Vander T7 is same bike as bossnut. Currently it cost $1600 from bikesonline

[@Ricky-tr2hd]

By far the most fun way to keep fit.

[@robhughes645]

I really hope this 29er trend stays with the racers and pros, they make riding most trails a vanilla experience, where I live anyway. I have an old 2006 Mongoose Teocali with 26" wheels and took it out on the weekend for a laugh ... so much more fun than my 27" bikes.

[@AverageDadMTB]

I am pretty sure in 6 years we will all be talking about 31” tires.

[@nicklame2647]

When introducing each bike, could you also mention availability outside of UK?

[@MBRmagazine]

Hi Nick, the Vitus should be available outside the UK through CRC/Wiggle

[@tree267]

mx5cySS seems impossible to get Calibre inside the UK as well at the moment.

[@kyleslater5245]

Polygon might be the budget bike for outside uk.

[@jimw8615]

Kyle Slater polygon look exactly like the bossnut. They used the same grip. Made in the same factory.

[@alexj.3206]

I've been looking for a bike for weeks, maybe months. All the reviews I've seen seem to only be available in euros or Australian dollars. Otherwise, I go to websites and there are zero options to buy. No cart. Websites are all weird. Tells you they can only send certain bikes to a local dealer. Then there are NO local dealers. The nearest dealer will be 2000 miles away. WtF. I hate coronavirus. Can't buy a freaking bike for the life of me! In the words of the English- BLOODY HELL!

[@brianforbes4417]

Such a pity the boardman bikes aren't available atm, hope you can include them in future

[@tylerballard4170]

I just ordered a bossnut ( polygon vander t7 ) cant wait to get it !

[@f1nch1312]

Mine gets here Thursday! I can't wait!

[@adamharris2674]

Hard to see how any of these could be better than the Marin Hawk Hill. Just snagged a 1 and couldn’t possibly be happier. Added a dropper and Maxxises and she is ready. Oh and $1311 us w discount on GovVelo can’t be beat.

[@MBRmagazine]

We tested a Hawk Hill a couple of years ago rated it highly.

[@f0cuslel]

Just ordered Vitus VR. They really do sell well. Hopefully it's an upgrade from Giant talon 3. Could prob compare them but talon is pretty beat up.

[@jacobc1355]

That’s crazy I too have the talon 3 and I’m very interested in the Vitus as well. Let me know your first impressions when you get it.

[@f0cuslel]

@@jacobc1355 will do. This will be my second mountain bike so I don't think my review will be very useful. Since I am kind of gravel, dirt road rider. But I guess have to compare to what I got.

[@f0cuslel]

@@jacobc1355 got the bike. Assembly wise had to put in handle bar and pedals only. Out of the box the saddle is waaayyy to high. Couldn't reach the ground while sitting. Climbing is harder than talon. Did 20min climbing. My friend with his talon 3 was climbing easier. Maybe because of the saddle or suspension absorbing my energy. Gonna try out descending this week with both bikes.

[@f0cuslel]

My bike is small with 27.5 tyres by the way. Maybe bigger wheels climbs better?

[@mazdarx-8rotary.97]

I have a voodoo hoodoo. Great bike basically the same as the bizango but 27.5 instead of 29. Voodoo make quality bikes.

[@kevingeorge3169]

I've been waiting for the bossnut to be back in stock and now that it is they can't ship outside of the UK so LAME!

[@keslerkalaw2873]

Vitus Mythique here🙋🏽‍♂️🙋🏽‍♂️

[@harryingd2674]

I’m getting one just need to find one in stock

[@knivessurvives]

@@harryingd2674 same

[@PaulJoy]

I don't understand the statement about the Mythique being stronger in 27.5" than the 29" versions. What negative effect does the 1.5" difference in BB height make to the rider? I understand the extra few lbs in weight can make a difference in weight but surely the range of rider weights and carry gear can have just as much effect if not more?

[@richardokeefe2792]

Well-done again guys , a fantastic review on what most people can buy :)

[@MBRmagazine]

Thanks 🤘

[@scottlarson1223]

The reason all the Boss nut's are gone are because so many you tube channels are reviewing. Save some bikes for the riders.

[@jimw8615]

I bought a Vitus vr & a tripleB during tis Covid period. I prob got one of the last piece each. Vitus rode like a tank. Whereas TB is more nimble and fun. Nice entry level bikes. Though I notice TB resemble polygon Mtb almost 95%. Even the grip is the same. Though polygon comes internal cable routing. Difficult to get a Mtb of your size & preference during this period.

[@bora01vr6]

i had a Vitus escarpe 27 and now have a polygon vander T7 which is the same as the bossnut. Id have to agree, the vander/bossnut is a more fun bike, not as capable, but more fun for sure.

[@DJ_Sharpee]

i personally ride a Boardman MTR 8.8, I paid £1200 for it and i can say its amazing. should have been included in this comparison especially for spec.

[@Josho922]

Wish I picked up last year I just payed 1500 for mine it says 2022 but it's deffo the same bike lol damn inflation !!

[@Josho922]

Wish I picked up last year I just payed 1500 for mine it says 2022 but it's deffo the same bike lol damn inflation !!

[@DJ_Sharpee]

@@Josho922 its getting silly now. i ended up selling up and giving biking a rest due to the cost of it all now. even replacing parts and kit is silly money.

[@Josho922]

@@DJ_Sharpee ahh man thats a shame with the cost of everything going up wont be long till the countries peaple are a depressed mess !! what did you think of the bike when you did have it ?

[@DJ_Sharpee]

@@Josho922 brilliant bike for its money defo performed as a more expensive bike. I compare it to other more expensive bikes i have had and it was just as good. only thing i didnt like with the 8.8 model i had was the quick release rear wheel. would have been better as a proper axel like the front.

[@victordaraban4695]

You should also try the Devron zerga fs6.7, which comes in at ~1150 pounds and has 27.5 inch wheels and a Rockshox Sektor fork, or even the new 29er Btwin rockrider am 100, which has recieved a massive overhaul

[@lewisfoster5192]

1st ones frames not that nice in my opinion and the rockrider looks pretty nice

[@samb2334]

It’s probs the worst bike you can get for 1150, it still has 3x9!!!! Bossnut is wayyyy better for 50 less, that’s already almost half towards a dropper

[@goncalooliveira7436]

What you think of all mautain decathlon full sus bikes? This year they make a really good bikes for really low prices.

[@bora01vr6]

Do a 1000 dollar full suss versus hardtail . Or just include them both in your 1000 pound category . I’d be interested to see how a higher specced aggressive hardtail would fair against a full suss with cheaper components

[@MBRmagazine]

The verdict would probably be ‘buy the hardtail if you love hardtails and are young and can take a beating and your knees and back don’t creak. If you’re anyone else, get the full-suspension bike’ 😂

[@Synysterjmz]

£2000 gets you an entry level Vitus Escarpe 29er with a carbon frame. I think that's the sweet spot at the moment imo.

[@Skooteh]

weird unpopular opinion of mine: XT 10 speed is better than a GX 12 speed. Hanger alignment is less critical on lower speed bikes so it's easier to tune/stays in tune longer. The consumables (cassette/chain) are much cheaper too and it's pretty significantly lighter. The wider gear range or larger steps between gears aren't a big deal in comparison to those advantages IMO.

[@gamingcentury5114]

whered you guys buy that kickstand? looks so unique! would love myself one of them.

[@kidd6454]

Will you guys be doing a hardtail of the year for 2020 for £500 and £1000?

[@TheXthereason]

like to see "low budget" fully. good job

[@ThisWillCharacter]

better off with a hardtail- more fun and better quality at this price. I ride a nukeproof scout race (seen in profile pic)would have that over any of these

[@jasonlewis6914]

I agree with you man. I own a full suspension bike. But ride my hardtail way more. It's way faster than my full suspension and climbing ability is on a different level

[@uncleearl5115]

​@@jasonlewis6914 A hardtail isn't always faster, it really depends on where you live. My local trails are mostly lots of high speed steep tech, huge drops and jumps. Most mtb riders in my area ride enduro bikes or even downhill bikes that they just hike up.

[@mcmuphin]

Am i the only one mildly confused by the one host's accent? It sounds mostly american with a tilt of british or sometimes aussie. I just found that interesting

[@MBRmagazine]

He's originally from Northern Ireland if that helps!

[@ThirstysURL]

He's studied different regions pronouciation and uses it as he likes

[@ppp7277]

How would the New boardman MTR 8.6 2021 model fair against the bossnut in quality parts etc ? And the new giant fathom 2 ??? Got a grand ish to spend,,, for first bike,,, or should I start with maybe a bullet proof bizango????

[@Joshua-tm5ob]

Virus looks the best by far. The colour looks 🥵🔥

[@nvire5202]

Yall forget the Rockrider AM100S, might be the best valued full suspension enduro/ AM bike for 1500€

[@tidepods7364]

I'm planning on buying the vitus nucleus and upgrading the suspension over time, thoughts?

[@rozaldinhoras]

Good idea! I recently got the mythique 27 vr and I just think the full suspension is a huge upgrade for the small price difference. Whatever you think!

[@Naturexl]

How do you guys get it. It’s like always out of stock. When do they restock?

[@lukewilson5941]

The Caliber Boss nuts swing arm looks like the same swing arm on my Polygon Sisku. I am wondering if it could be a generic swing arm that some company makes and sells to bike ferms to keep the cost down? But if you're interested Google some images of the Sisku and this Boss nut and have a look at the swing arms.

[@cadenhinshaw9038]

That is very possible. Many Taiwanese bikes share parts. They may be catalog bikes.

[@MBRmagazine]

The Bossnut is made by Polygon for Calibre.

[@lukewilson5941]

@@cadenhinshaw9038 Polygons come from Indonesia, as for the Caliber....?

[@lukewilson5941]

@@cadenhinshaw9038 But looking at the MTB Riders statement, Indonesia too!

[@jimw8615]

Luke wilson calibre bike is so called handcrafted in Indonesia. So it’s actually a polygon Mtb. Just a different sticker. Like a mobile phone, computer,...all OEM.

[@lpt2606]

I am just mad that that bossnut dus not schip outside the UK, a shame if you ask me

[@danielbulmer299]

I’m looking for a bike and I’m struggling to find a good one that can mostly excel at jumping slope style while still keeping me grounded on a gnarly downhill any recommendations on spec or bikes under £1600-£1000

[@jbbulls5144]

Which bike is comparable to decathlon rock rider AM100s? It has longer suspension, 12 gears and a dropper post but not sure about the geometry. The pirice is 150 more than vitus.

[@RNicknackpaddywhack]

What are the frame weldings like? Do the frames have bad welding?

[@definitelynotcody2494]

Hey, im 12 in Australia and I’m quite short looking to upgrade to full sus but i don’t have much to spend and im looking at a second hand polygon siskiu d5 for 1250 and. Just checking if this is a good idea or do you have any other comparisons

[@vlbz]

The Voodoo frame just looks off. Crazy high top tube. One could be tricked into believing the Vitus is an expensive bike. The Caliber is just adorable like an oldschool British sports car.

[@julienboesch-thomas4391]

Sick video 👍🚵🏻‍♂️

[@alpowneyful]

Really enjoyed this

[@TopsMiah]

How do Decathlon bikes of Rockrider compare to these bikes. Similar price range

[@brucelee5340]

Was looking at the voodoo but after this bit bummed you’re saying it’s not that good 😌 £1000 sounded good but will need a dropper, better tyres, better brakes by the time you’ve added those perhaps another £300 or more and it’s not sounding that good 😒 worth £1000 as a first full sus? Don’t know perhaps would be better off getting a £1000 hard tail

[@benevans4616]

Could you buy the vitus mythique and then buy a rockshox rear shock to put on

[@MBRmagazine]

No reason why not, just have to make sure you got the correct damping tune and air can size for the bike. But someone like TF Tuned should be able to help with that.

[@tubzattwood3915]

With the vitus can you explain why you say the small wheel size was the best option?

[@samuelq1971]

Should I get the Giant Stance 2

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

2021 commencal clash essential green xl. 180 / 170 27.5 lyric top shelf red lowers. 34t x11x50 box two Get out the way

[@davidgolightly232]

I've just got a boardman MTR 8.6 its £1000 and it's a 29er and has sr suntour xcr air 34mm stanchions and and has a rockshox deluxe select and has a good modern geometry and wasnt in your selection my model is a 2021

[@chrisphillips9846]

Could you compare the Bossnut to the 2021 Polygon Sisku D7 ???

[@dblevins343]

to be fair IDK if it would be a great comparison. I think I would like to see it but the bikes are fairly different. The D7 is definitely meant to be an entrance level cross country bike due to its head angle while the Bossnut has a 66 angle. Thats competing with the polygon T7 head angle of 65 (or 65.5 for the 29er)

[@Steven-tm6kr]

I've seen it published that the Bossnut is the same bike as the Polygon Vander T7. Is this so? And if so where can the T7 be ordered from for UK delivery?

[@MBRmagazine]

It’s very similar to the Polygon Siskiu T7 (the Calibre is made in the Polygon factory) . Google is your friend for finding out where to get one in the UK.

[@Steven-tm6kr]

@@MBRmagazine The Bossnut is now £1500 and the Polygon is £1900. Is the Bossnut the best at these prices?

[@lweleven3423]

Excellent review 👍

[@MBRmagazine]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Steven-tm6kr]

Bossnut now at £1500. Is it still worth it?

[@PghMtbRides]

Polygon D5...or their T frame set

[@will_mtb3111]

Because I don’t have a lot a money should I go for the calibre boss nut. But second hand

[@MBRmagazine]

If it's been well cared for, then the Bossnut is an excellent choice.

[@Jon-nz3dm]

aaand Bossnut is still UK only...so sad. I don't know of any full sus bikes offered here in USA for these prices. The ones that I do know of are not even worth looking at. I own a Nukeproof Scout, but I'd totally be interested in getting something like the bossnut if it were available to ship here.

[@mauricioaspee]

Fezzari

[@mauricioaspee]

I have a 2018 Bossnut and I love riding it here is Washington State. Just ordered the Fezzari Abajo Peak but I'm 12 weeks out from delivery.

[@axial27]

Polygon offers a bike with the same frame and similar price because they are made in the same factory.

[@adamharris2674]

Marin Hawk Hill. Best bang-for-buck in the us period.

[@kingpet46]

Just get polygon siskiu T7. It's about the same price but with a dropper post.

[@kyl3d]

hi guys not sure if anybody will see this but i am looking at getting the vitus mythique vr 29 at one point it is mentioned to go for the higher spec model with 27.5 wheels due to the bottom bracket being too high can you explain this a little bit more... im a bit of a noob when it comes to technical specs how would this impact me as a rider if i get the vr 29 for reference im 6'2 so i will be getting the XL frame

[@CM-1723]

Will they be making these bossnut again ?

[@CM-1723]

Are the polygons what they sell at go outdoors now the same as the calibre but rebranding?

[@MBRmagazine]

Polygon made the Calibre bikes, so basically yes but the other way round.

[@CM-1723]

@@MBRmagazine have you done a review of the equivalent polygon model to the calibre bossnut ? So what would be the 2022 model bossnut ?

[@haninkhan8316]

I want to buy a mountain bike for my husband’s birthday I have a budget around 1500£ he ride road bike and I’m sure he will be thrilled with a mountain one which bike can I buy him is it better to get hard tail or full suspension in this price range ? 29 or 27,5 ? He is 176cm height and 80kg weight is it better to get size medium or large Plus most of bikes that I had on my list are out of stock can you guide me please many many thanks

[@MBRmagazine]

It totally depends on what type of terrain he’s going to ride. If it’s really rough, then we’d say full suspension. If it’s relatively smooth dirt roads, then a hardtail will be fine. Sizing will depend entirely on the specific bike. Ask customer service or shop staff for advice or check out our reviews online - we always give the height of the tester and the size of bike tested.

[@lewiscooper1044]

The boardman fs pro is the best for the price it is £1550 and the parts are worth up to £3000

[@Evolution2810]

i bought the Voodoo Canzo as my first mountain bike not long ago, do you think its good for a beginner that doesnt really have any experience of how a good bike should feel?

[@lewisfoster5192]

I want one got Christmas any good and please tell me the cons

[@skfunk4550]

Dude, it's perfectly more than good enough for a non experienced mountain biker. Geometry is something you will get to understand after a while and only if you get into mtb deep otherwise, it's perfectly good.

[@superspecky4eyes]

I had a 2015 Voodoo Zobop for my first full-suss, which is the exact same frame as the Canzo but just an older spec. It's an excellent beginner full-susser and more than capable for general trail riding. The only downsides are that you will struggle to get a dropper post to fit the kinked seat tube design and the geometry is quite behind the times since it is basically a 2015 frame resprayed. These are all things that can be overlooked until your riding progresses to the point where you will buy a better bike anyway.

[@Evolution2810]

@@skfunk4550 awesome thanks for the input :D

[@Evolution2810]

@@superspecky4eyes i have noticed that the standard seat post does not drop down alot, ive been looking into maybe cutting the seat post down, i measure it all up and i could probably chop about 2.5 inches off it safely and still have enough minimum insertion. a dropper post is my next thing but now you have said that i might not be getting one if thats the case

[@grifftr02]

Im current waiting on a calibre triple b

[@urg0nnah8me]

Wholeheartedly disagree with your argument about the drivetrain being limited. Not everyone wants a 1x12. Sometimes less is more. I run box components 1x9 and I'd take the shimano 1x10 over any of the SRAM 1x12 set ups.

[@ShahnewazYT]

There isn't much direct comparison with the Mythique against the Bossnut, and too much praise and reminiscing on the latter. Tell us exactly what makes it so great.

[@jamie-kd9tx]

The vitus has.. well, bad suspension. The cheaper X fusion stuff really isnt great and suspension is very expensive to upgrade aftermarket so its not feasible to buy £500-600 later. The bossnut has really great RS stuff and although they trade blows here and there, I think the suspension is a major thing. Also intangible things like ride characteristic etc. Even spending more the Triple B obliterates the top spec mythique undeniably. (even though the vrx does have a stiffer fork, the triple b is in a different realm of performance in nearly every other category)

[@WhiteRabbit1980]

Great Vid

[@dcell972]

What about the people in the USA. Can they buy these bikes?

[@vick_farkas]

Can you put a 40t chainring on the Mythyque?

[@darrellraindityo]

polygon siskiu d7 is $1000 in indonesia

[@GreenandGold]

Where can buy the calibre bossnut?

[@JD2ndcity]

Shame the Carrera Titan X wasn't tested. The spec looks great for the money.

[@xx-----------xx873]

Geometry is shit

[@asianskywalker]

@@xx-----------xx873 what makes the geometry shit?

[@MBRmagazine]

Halfords did offer to send us a Titan X a while ago but they must have gone out of stock.

[@xx-----------xx873]

@@asianskywalker 67 degree head angle is what a 130mm trail bike had in 2013, long chainstays (personal preference I guess), and a 442 reach on a large seems "short". It is incredibly well specced for the money though.

[@superspecky4eyes]

@@xx-----------xx873 Head angle isn't the be all and end all. You wouldn't want anything steeper than 67 degrees though, I agree.

[@shortymtb]

Bossnut is £1200 (or £1500 if you don't pay £5 membership)

[@valentinotarona8294]

No polygon?! Was hoping I'd see it here but I guess they are still short

[@az9913]

The polygon vander t7 is the same bike as the bossnut... I have it. And bikes online has em in-stock

[@R04IM]

is the stick the included in the price?

[@Tc-hb8vp]

I still cant afford 1000 for a bike where can you go for second hand bikes is it just the local sellers or is there a specific place shop forum that caters for folk like me

[@xx-----------xx873]

eBay, pinkbike buy and sell forums.

[@will_mtb3111]

What can you do on a bossnut can you do like 18ft jumps and go to bike park

[@MBRmagazine]

Sure, if you’re smooth and have got the skills.

[@cadenhinshaw9038]

How do you get such good clear audio outside?

[@kiltymacbagpipe]

Lapel mic’s.

[@azaman2604]

the bossnut frame looks ever so similar to the polygon t7, wonder if they come from the same factory in Indonesia

[@TheEnginesmith]

That's exactly what I was thinking too...

[@MBRmagazine]

Yes, the Bossnut frame is made by Polygon.

[@azaman2604]

That makes perfect sense then! Cheers

[@jimw8615]

Polygon has internal cable routing .

[@f1nch1312]

@@jimw8615 only the polygon sisku models. The polygon Vander is still external like the bossnut

[@tommtb5635]

best video

[@owenmitchell8532]

What's u guys opinions on the Boardman team FS 2016

[@rumplestiltskin1350]

My friend went through 5 frames in 18months an he only rides gisburn an degla an weighs about 70kg wet through. He now has a whyte G170 an loves it, no issues an has now stepped his ride game up but didnt enjoy an uplift day at stiniog haha

[@lewisfoster5192]

@@rumplestiltskin1350 Whyte are great

[@justinwbohner]

omg this valley girl uptalking is like nails on a chalkboard!

[@leeroy110]

That and the 4 different accents. He sounds American, English, Irish and Australian by turns..

[@kaatdebusscher4522]

"This one time, at band camp..."

[@thenyungsebbbikers9123]

where is the polygon sisku d5

[@sweeneyTodd-de4by]

Can you sill order this in August 2020?

[@MBRmagazine]

You'll have to check the brand's websites out for stock availability.

[@dominicheppner5988]

Missed out the polygon d7