California caste law: US state taking on caste-based discrimination

[@edm5166]

They leave their countries then bring that nonsense witj them!! They should get deported immediately

[@BORN-to-Run]

I almost agree. Mexicans do the same thing. In their country, if you're lighter-skinned than brown, they call themselves "White people," and they severely discriminate against those who are darker skinned than themselves. That's how it is in Mexico, and they bring that lying demon with them to the USA. They should be thrown back across the border!

[@alexisbendelamousseauchocolat]

This! Is the Truth.

[@JUSTFORFUN-cd5dd]

Do it but dont deport to India cause we don't consider them as indians. They are coconuts 😂

[@__Man__]

Anyone who practices that nonsense should be punished. US is a meritocratic country.

[@krish38381]

Send them gangas river where as they belongs

[@HHFDCHIUT]

Anti-caste Bill should be applied in whole world.Brahmins are not superior by birth..I Support SB 403💙🙏👌 jai Bhim Jai Phule🙏

[@Seevawonderloaf]

Brahmins themselves say they aren't superior by birth yet the level of anti-Brahmin sentiment, including r*pe and death threats against them is utterly ridiculous. Not brahmin or even Hindu for that matter and was intrested bc this movement seemed important but holy F the level of vitriol is so disgusting.

[@manjunathnr4624]

Ok I'm oppressed and victim card holder 😅😂

[@Kiran37369]

@@Seevawonderloafoh please step outside of to house for once and see how Brahmins feel about themselves. They think they are better

[@アクシャイ-n4b]

​@@manjunathnr4624 cope and cry more power to anti caste bill

[@Giabimks]

"If Hindus migrate to other regions on earth, Indian caste would become a world problem"- Dr. B.R. Ambedkar. Rightly said by by this great man 8 decade ago. Shame on Hinduism

[@missdhara6434]

So ban them from anglo nations only let them go to African nations since they are all blacks anyway.

[@PoetryWithSheikh]

Ban caste based discrimination in all over US

[@crazyrider1880]

Ban Reservation in India!

[@donbabilio8298]

Ban immigration from these cultures. Not our problem

[@billyyank5807]

It's not a thing here. That's a hindu thing. That's on yall.

[@howardugland8348]

Should be addressed all over the world including India and other countries. Our creator does not discriminate or privilege any person.

[@gujarat8506]

@@billyyank5807 Sikhs have one too. And they are even more toxic

[@TonyWCV]

I am not Indian but have many times witnessed subtle caste based discrimination amongst the Indians in companies like Toyota Motor Sales @toyota @tfs and Toyota Financial Services especially with their outsourced IT vendors. Worst if the subordinate is of Muslim or Islam. The Indians are extremely exclusive and only choose their own regardless of qualifications. The discrimination is oppressive. Have witnessed good employees leaving which is unfortunately for employers. In itself, caste culture is slavery liked!

[@humptydumpty1481]

Most of these upper caste groups (basically Brahmins) are privileged and well-off due to inheritance they got because of their ancestors. So you can say they were 2 levels ahead of lower caste people (who were used by Brahmins as slaves and were ghetosized, and were considered to be at a very low level to the Brahmins) in terms of opportunities, land and power. The initial India. immigrants to western countries were these Brahmins who were able to immigrate because of their immense ancestral wealth and it took an average lower caste man decades to be able to do that. That's how Brahmins got hold of most of the top positions and roles around the world and now lower caste people are catching up to them slowly. That's why Brahmins who always felt superior to lower caste people are getting angry now as they have always considered lower caste people as their slaves.

[@justanaverageguy6583]

Toyota is not an Indian company you illiterate!

[@Seevawonderloaf]

Proof? Or perhaps just your blatant anti-Hindu and anti-Indian sentiment getting a chance to shine.

[@A.--.]

Thank you to all for shining light on this issue

[@nagas7740]

Hinduism is the most discriminatory and inhuman of all religions that has percolated in all walks of life and has been brought to the west. The manuvaadis boasts of Ramayana, Mahabharat, Yoga and Ayurveda but never mention Manusmriti which is the basis of religion, devadasi, pankthi bedha, Madesnana etc. Castiesm is there in all walks of life, one just need to do census of caste in US to know how the beneficiaries have disproportionally grabbed positions of power and influence. In india the lower caste are being brainwashed, given trishulas and made to fight against minorities on the street where as the upper castes shield their kids from this and give them good education, many of whom go abroad and further their agenda from there and whenever these are pointed out they build a narrative that it is hinduphobic, funny thing is they lie saying castiesm is British creation and yet they oppose Bills against caste discrimination. From religion scriptures to temples, from vedas to upanishads it is all about brahmins and their supremacy. Lower caste have no respect or representation in religion. On that note Kudos to Seattle and CA for taking the lead in fight against caste discrimination and upholding individual freedom and liberty and making sure the dubious groups that oppose this are exposed.

[@toughtome]

That's not the basis.That was the remains a past thing and things have changed a lot. No one actually follows that. In the past, there were some things called as rituals that was man made and a lot of reforms have been done. If you talk about caste it's almost in all religion that you can find but not same as this one. In India a lot has been changed ever since past. And this will completely vanish as there are reservation that's only make difference that's the basis of discrimination because some people think that they get opportunities more even in less talent that's why. What you mentioned the books name and even meditation forms that's your lack of knowledge that you think caste in everywhere. Saying just discriminatory and inhumane that's only your own created opinion. In India the caste is not fact of discrimination here.

[@chetanoimbe2572]

You are totally correct. Caste system is the base of Hinduism. Without this caste hierarchy there would no upper or lower caste. That's why the so called "upper caste" the Brahmins and other savarnas are adamant on protecting this vicious caste system. They will go against anything which threatens their caste privileges and caste superimacy.

[@arthuravalon914]

​@@toughtomeit's true that it's the most inhuman and discriminatory.

[@Lucifer-dd2nr]

​@@arthuravalon914you never read about the history and present aspects of other religions.

[@Jatav_Londa]

Obviously!! telling u as dalit hinduism is the worst form of mental disease 🤮🤮

[@bpp827]

Dark side of Hindu religion 😂..

[@m.krishnanunni]

What is this hindu religion? In which scriptures you got this name

[@NN94887]

Not dark side ,it's the actual hindu religion , if you remove caste , hindu religion finished.

[@understanding.everything]

​@@NN94887 dumb dumb it's a philosophy adopted by whole of Asia Asian culture is hinduism without caste in Chinese and Japanese and South East Asia

[@JS-wx8xm]

End caste system

[@revolt1947]

Brahmins exported caste to US

[@brarindersingh6789]

I appreciate America ❤ its always at the top for human rights ..now its time for usa to apply democratic value in South asia and lets work on referendum

[@JUSTFORFUN-cd5dd]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@gujarat8506]

South Asia?

[@cinefile0075]

"if Hindus migrate to other regions on Earth, Indian caste would become a world problem." - B.R.Ambedker Hindus are nothing without caste system and caste pride. It's their biggest identity unfortunately

[@JUSTFORFUN-cd5dd]

No ur wrong I'm indian we don't talk about caste anywhere untill marriage. Even then it's our choice

[@alok9307]

​@@JUSTFORFUN-cd5dd even if talking about caste in marriage is bad!

[@cosmosstudio3006]

the Muslim woman is the most helpless person. Islam strongly supports polygamy, Burqa etc that are inhuman practices. Dr Ambedkar said- " The Muslim woman is the most helpless person in the world. No words can adequately express the great and many evils of polygamy and concubinage, and especially as a source of misery to a Muslim woman. If slavery has gone, caste among Musalmans has remained.

[@RimaDesu00]

​@@JUSTFORFUN-cd5dd even if you are doing so you re just promoting casteism

[@RimaDesu00]

​@@cosmosstudio3006doesn't mean casteism in hinduism is any better

[@prashanthb6521]

Good job California and USA, congrats.

[@crazyrider1880]

Ban Reservation in India

[@billyyank5807]

It's irrelevant in the U.S. it's not used in the U.S. only people who use that system are familiar with it so stop discriminating against themselves.

[@arthuravalon914]

​@@crazyrider1880we should ban criminals like you instead.

[@sakshishinde629]

@@crazyrider1880ban caste descrimination in india first

[@Asoka-great]

No Reservation in US Dude..@@crazyrider1880

[@Raghav_Modi]

Namaskar 🙏🙏🙏🙏 All I wish for is that British return to rule India again. After 75 years of so-called "independence", India is Rank 107 on Starvation Index - worse than Nigeria and North Korea Clearly, we are unfit to rule ourselves 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@ParthPant25]

How can India have lower rank in starvation index than North korea. That makes absolutely no sense. How did they even measure North Koreas population statistics?

[@JUSTFORFUN-cd5dd]

​@@democracylives8448 he is a troll and ur answering him? 😂😂🤣

[@toughtome]

You should just put your real name here rather than trying to pretend here and atleast your country too. If you would have been in India then you might have known the reality. Even experts don't say and without having knowledge talking nonsense is all called as bullshit. If you talk about happyness index they have put Afghanistan and Pakistan above India, also in press freedom index Afghanistan is above India that doesn't make sense.

[@marie-on5yj]

Why does California need to have a ban on the caste system??? This is America! We have no caste to ban!!!

[@democracylives8448]

You are an American now, friends, with an equal opportunity at the American dream. Speak up about it since authorities may not be familiar with the cultural issue, I’m only just learning about this issue.

[@drakes4625]

That guy says the law will be anti-Hindu...completely false. There are already laws banning caste discrimination in south asian countries. If some of it has been exported to the US, obviously we cant accept this form of discrimination

[@dannydilbag7565]

😂😂😂

[@coldoutside96]

Dalits need there own country. More than 3000 years of oppression

[@Fontana-sb9ui]

It shouldnt be exported to the western world from india or nepal .

[@TheStringBreaker]

*This is quite important!*

[@rioroy3251]

BRA 👙HMIN ❌ should be ban in US.....

[@Lucifer-dd2nr]

That's not possible. US is a capitalist economy

[@Kumaarr101]

Thanku america 🙏🏻 💙 Jai bheem🙏🏻

[@SeeLasSee]

True, this does emphasize less desirable aspects of Hinduism. But the same cultural moment mislabels Christianity in the USA also, as chiefly homophobic. We need to find a balance between religion not being stigmatized provided it is not being used to discriminate.

[@nagas7740]

This is a sense of entitlement and supremacy speaking like holier than thou. Hinduism is the most discriminatory and inhuman of all religions that has percolated in all walks of life and has been brought to the west. The manuvaadis boasts of Ramayana, Mahabharat, Yoga and Ayurveda but never mention Manusmriti which is the basis of religion, devadasi, pankthi bedha, Madesnana etc. Castiesm is there in all walks of life, one just need to do census of caste in US to know how the beneficiaries have disproportionally grabbed positions of power and influence. In india the lower caste are being brainwashed, given trishulas and made to fight against minorities on the street where as the upper castes shield their kids from this and give them good education, many of whom go abroad and further their agenda from there and whenever these are pointed out they build a narrative that it is hinduphobic, funny thing is they lie saying castiesm is British creation and yet they oppose Bills against caste discrimination. From religion scriptures to temples, from vedas to upanishads it is all about brahmins and their supremacy. Lower caste have no respect or representation in religion. On that note Kudos to Seattle and CA for taking the lead in fight against caste discrimination and upholding individual freedom and liberty and making sure the dubious groups that oppose this are exposed.

[@kalgandikota7075]

Silas, Without stigmatizing religion as a whole, how can one ensure that it is not being used to discriminate against others because there are several stanzas in religious books that are discriminatory and sometimes even violent against people who do not follow those religions? In my opinion, certain religious texts or practices can foster discrimination and violence. Although it is true that some religious teachings can be discriminatory or promote violence, it is also important to acknowledge that religions are ancient, complex, and multifaceted belief systems that are interpreted and practiced differently by individuals and communities. In ancient times, religion served as the rule of law and religious scriptures were the written constitution, while the unwritten constitution was influenced by the whims of kings, dukes, feudal lords, and aristocrats. Kings relied on preachers, pastors, or mullahs to communicate with the public and maintain their image, so they had to follow the commands of religious leaders. As kings provided wealth and protection, religious leaders supported them in return. One way to ensure that religion is not being used to discriminate against others is to promote education and dialogue around these issues. This can involve encouraging critical examination of religious texts and teachings, as well as promoting open and respectful discussions within a religious group and then between different religious groups with an aim of promoting human rights and equality as universal values that should be respected by all individuals and communities. Another way to address discrimination is to promote inclusive and diverse communities where all individuals are valued and respected regardless of their religious beliefs or practices. This can involve creating safe spaces for individuals to express their beliefs without fear of discrimination or persecution, as well as promoting interfaith dialogue and cooperation. Ultimately, addressing discrimination in religion requires a multifaceted approach that involves education, dialogue including in media, and the promotion of inclusive and diverse communities. It is important to acknowledge that this is a complex issue that requires ongoing efforts and engagement from individuals and communities from all backgrounds. Besides educational and media initiatives aimed at raising awareness about the negative impacts of discrimination and the benefits of respecting diversity and inclusivity, it may be helpful to work with leaders and preachers of various religious entities who are willing to promote logic, tolerance, and inclusivity within their communities. Such leaders, with their rational and critical thinking, can serve as important allies in the effort to address discrimination within and between religions. While it may be challenging to address discrimination in some cases, it is crucial to continue working towards greater inclusivity and tolerance in all aspects of society. Negotiating with individuals or groups who are resistant to equality can be a complex process, as some groups have benefited from the marginalization of others for too long. To dispel the homophobia, the different religious cohorts and the Governments must gather evidence for their claims and counter-claims demonstrating the ways in which equality and inclusivity are important values for all individuals and communities. However, if individuals or communities who discriminate against others based on their religious beliefs are unwilling to engage in dialogue or education on these issues, it may be necessary to engage the government to take legal or other measures to address the discrimination. While some argue that the caste system is an integral part of Hinduism and therefore reflects certain negative aspects of the religion, others argue that caste is a social construct that has been used to justify discrimination and inequality. Whenever someone talks about social justice and the enactment of governance laws to uphold justice, such justice must be comprehensive encompassing as much population as possible, of various demographics within a region. It is important to seek common ground by acknowledging the concerns of both sides and attempting to understand their perspectives. This can involve listening to the concerns of both sides and trying to find areas of agreement or shared values, such as a commitment to human dignity, community harmony, employment opportunities, and the importance of family as a unit of society. In 21st century, there is a greater observability and accountability of religions and governments. Organized crimes and corruption in religion will fail due to the modern communication systems in place. Therefore, the biggest thing to worry for rich & powerful of all the religions of the world is poverty, adverse climate changes and global warming. I hope they use everything in their domain to alleviate the problems and not scheme to exterminate the poor and the meek. As long as people are well and their needs are satisfied, they will be doing their jobs and stay pacified. When they become very poor, that’s when they challenge the status quo. Dalit, Adivasi and other oppressed communities must first concentrate on the Urbanization of their communities thus mitigating the Cultural Appropriation of those cohorts by the privileged upper castes dividing societies into various social strata based on the birth of rest of the masses and giving caste certificates forcing them to do work and part with resources while the top three varnas of upper castes share power, media, arts and businesses. Urbanization will help marginalized communities get closer to the seats of political and business power to influence Government decisions. In other words, be aware, get organized and urbanized first before contesting status quo of larger powerful groups. Also, it is necessary to increase the number of universities and their global rankings so that South Asia will also have choicest man-power to work on not only latest sciences and technologies but also on social and political reforms ultimately improving the overall standard of living of all and their families. When the overall standard of living improves for all communities, they will have more time to discuss, debate, research and become more aware of their voting power inside universities and outside in communities. This is why we don’t hear much about the caste system of Japan, Korea, or China.

[@nagas7740]

@@kalgandikota7075 Well said, the beneficiaries of caste system comes up with narrative that speaking against it is Hinduphobia, the well cushioned beneficiaries come abroad and carry on their agenda from outside supporting dubious religious bodies and their service wings, but Americans have come out of their initial wonder of the religion and customs and now have become increasing aware of all these. With technology advancement and the world getting smaller they cant sweep things under the carpet and pretend everything is hunky dory with Hinduism and Indians. All one needs is to go to temples and see if there is diversity and inclusion of all castes in the priestly and in trust or management of religious institutions. They have given their own art forms classical status, not hard to figure these things out

[@toughtome]

@@nagas7740 That's not the situation here as your writing your same opinion here and there. In India that's isn't the issue of discrimination like the past as you wrote your opinion even in education talking about supremacy that's your own bullshit words that doesn't exist because today everyone is getting education doing great jobs. No one has supremacy here in India and even at anywhere else in the World

[@JusticeforPeanut-t6x]

I’m Thai and I never thought of caste never entered my mind. Until now. Thank you for making think of which caste you’re in every time I interact with an East Indian person.

[@samztweets2537]

Congratulations California 🎉

[@ansh_u_r]

Everybody is eating beef in US still talking about caste discrimination.

[@BORN-to-Run]

HOW do they know, they are of a different caste. Certainly, Americans, or other minorities in America don't participate in the East Asian caste system. So, who's doing it?

[@sakinahabdullah]

They are upholding it

[@Fontana-sb9ui]

Usually from their last names or what job they do back over there.

[@billyyank5807]

They are doing it to themselves lol. Because certain groups don't like their own people. It's as simple as that.

[@BORN-to-Run]

@JESUS SAVES THE DAY Amen.

[@BORN-to-Run]

@@Fontana-sb9ui BUT they're not back over there, they're over here! They must be working around a lot of other East Indians on their jobs, because this would not happen on the average American company where "Americans" run the business. They would never discriminate against an East Indian based on the Hindu Caste system. That's just ludicrous.

[@reginajanelilianapatterson5838]

You can't end casteism without violating Hinduism's rights.

[@lordtywinofhouselannister5433]

The biggest mistake is bringing them all in

[@aznamoon1111]

Embarrassing as an Indian American. I’m not surprised it’s happening. I’ve seen tons of recent Indian immigrants using “tradition” as the basis for justifying their outdated beliefs.

[@kenfu9334]

there is still caste discrimination in the usa for example the irish in boston the potato eaters the southerners they marry just people they know from their childhood

[@kenfu9334]

@themastermind8847 lol

[@kenfu9334]

@themastermind8847 the american government denied irish to have colored slaves back in the day while germans had in their household minimum one i still dont understand that

[@SeeLasSee]

This has been the strongest ‘-ism’ that I have seen living in the USA. I wish we did not have enough to address but it seems that we do.

[@Seevawonderloaf]

Love that a Qatari based media company would talk abt caste and slavery when they have slaves in their country and the non-Muslim is treated as a 5th class citizen. Any comments?

[@hugoedelarosa]

That's true, but caste discrimination sucks. Both of those things suck real bad.

[@abhishekkambanor2294]

​@hugoedela😅rosa

[@Tamilanban.T]

Casteless Hindu’ is an oxymoron, an impossibility. Especially an outsider becoming a Brahmin is simply not possible. Brahmins are born, becoming one is not possible. Every so called Hindu leaders knew that very well. B.R. Ambedkar wrote: “The real criterion is not the wearing of the sacred thread but the right to wear the sacred thread. Understood in its proper sense, it may be said without fear of contradiction that the right to Upanayana is the real and the only test of judging the status of a person…” According to religious texts, only Brahmins have the authority to perform the upanayana ceremony. Will they perform the upanayana sanskara even for Brahmin women or for new "Kar Vapasies" or Dalits? Answer is big NO!!! Caste is the fundamental basis of Sanatana Dharma. It's birth based discrimination, inequality and hierarchy is the foundation for ideas like karma philosophy and rebirth to sustain those structures. Without caste there is no Sanatana Dharma. To eradicate caste, the root of this evil must be eradicated!

[@ParamjeetSinghNimesh]

Congratulations ❤

[@inspectorgadget365]

Good news story showing how black Asian are been discriminated against

[@nighthawk5301]

If ca and the rest of the country actually cared about descrimination, applications would no longer ask for race, gender, disability status.

[@default_doppelganger]

Nonsense, first the bogeyman was creeping sharia and now Mola Ram is sneaking around?!? Uncle Sam is dizzy with all the new silliness.

[@thebangkokconnection4080]

They should apply the Castle Doctrine instead out in tent land.

[@darkgalaxy5548]

This wouldn't be a problem if Dalits were denied visas!

[@coldoutside96]

Why should they denied visa

[@darkgalaxy5548]

@@coldoutside96 Because they're Dalits! Duh!!

[@coldoutside96]

@@darkgalaxy5548 everyone is human

[@darkgalaxy5548]

@@coldoutside96 But not everyone is Dalit

[@coldoutside96]

@darkgalaxy5548 what does that even mean. You make no sense. Only indian culture has the caste system. Every other culture is fine treating others like equal human. South Asians scare me, your culture is so backwards.

[@JusticeforPeanut-t6x]

In order not to discriminate against caste. Don’t you have to be in one first??

[@jesagarmadhyabharat6373]

I am happy for this law and order But explain me Will it apply for Indian citizens

[@gujarat8506]

"South Asian descent". Come on, South Asian isn't a race

[@__Man__]

Origin would be more proper to be used to describe it.

[@Akv992]

Brahmins not happy saar 🤣

[@aadityakashyapboy1250]

Jai bhumihar-brahmin

[@Suraj-Verma_]

Caste was given according to work not by birth:- Reference Rig Veda and Gita....

[@arthuravalon914]

That's just a cover up story for atrocities committed by brahmins.

[@Lucifer-dd2nr]

​@@arthuravalon914it's a reality

[@manjunathnr4624]

Haha Qatar terrorism propaganda 😅😂

[@understanding.everything]

😂😂😂 propaganda

[@Rachel-gv6hw]

Yet I do not understand why some Dalits/untouchables in America are extreme racists

[@Rachel-gv6hw]

Yet I do not understand why some Dalits/untouchables in America are extreme racists