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@AetherHub
@AetherHub 4 жыл бұрын
Sparks are weird.. what do you think should/should not be allowed to be a Planeswalker?
@griffca4814
@griffca4814 4 жыл бұрын
I think they should have killed off most of the plains walkers in War of the Spark so Nicol Bolas would have gone in magic history an amazing villain but like 2 people died and now they have way to many characters. Instead he did absolutely nothing but bring down a few buildings.
@VFenris6184
@VFenris6184 4 жыл бұрын
What I’d like to think is that after the events of war of the spark, the energy of Bolas’s elder spell failing spread out from ravnica and to other planes. Giving more magical energy to other planes that can give sparks to those that couldn’t gain them. So if we think of it like that, planeswalkers could be popping up more often then usual. However that’s just my opinion anyway.
@rylandelliott2912
@rylandelliott2912 4 жыл бұрын
Hello
@Torriotorres
@Torriotorres 4 жыл бұрын
I think they should stick to the established foundation of what we have invested in. It seems like a bad decision to leave creative license to people, who don't know the subtle nuances of the product they are supposed to work on for us.
@Terrivian_Vess
@Terrivian_Vess 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think a group of Bebels could all share a spark. O Wait. (Yes, UN set, ik.)
@draxthemsklonst
@draxthemsklonst 4 жыл бұрын
Calix's very being was created for one purpose. Theros, being based on belief, allowed his spark-ignition to occur, because he believed it needed to. Clothys knew about the god-walker Xenagos, so that realization may have been passed on to Calix.
@Darth_Sithis
@Darth_Sithis 4 жыл бұрын
I like this explanation the best.. Plus in the little short story for beyond death it states in his moment of extreme grief he had a dark thought, and Planeswalked after her. That would be the moment he put such belief power to use.
@draxthemsklonst
@draxthemsklonst 4 жыл бұрын
@Shade Collins For sure, had to be something like that. Xenagos was at least a template/example for Clothys to start with.
@Philigan87
@Philigan87 3 жыл бұрын
My head cannon is that Klothys used Xenagos soul to craft Calix. Xenagos died in Nyx, so his sould could have still been there for Klothys to capture ans repurpose.
@youcancallmeal313
@youcancallmeal313 4 жыл бұрын
Give the gingerbread man a spark
@chaostear13
@chaostear13 4 жыл бұрын
Gingerbread woman's spark should ignite so she can hunt down Garruk.
@danielbretado7660
@danielbretado7660 4 жыл бұрын
@@chaostear13 Good Un-set subplot. It will be like those random chicken fights in Family Guy.
@ulipeterson6112
@ulipeterson6112 4 жыл бұрын
i want Fblthp to become a planeswalker.
@03dallasjs00
@03dallasjs00 4 жыл бұрын
Uli Peterson his +1 shuffles a creature you control into your library
@walrusmctusky6549
@walrusmctusky6549 4 жыл бұрын
Found this on the mtg wiki figured it would help a little Calix is artificially created and artificial creatures normally can't spark. Doug Beyer explained that artificial creatures like Angels and Demons which are manifestations of mana do not have the right soul/essence to hold a spark.[4] While Calix is an enchantment, per se, he is indirectly made by mortals. Mortals' belief made the gods in their image, who in turn made a creature with a very mortal-like soul. It is implied that Calix's spark ignites because his entire purpose, his existence, is dedicated to the pursuit of Elspeth and he can't fulfill that without a spark and that strong desire and belief (which is a particularly strong influence on Theros) is what helped him push further.
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 4 жыл бұрын
Except angels are affected by worship too.
@lenajohnson6179
@lenajohnson6179 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but there's already Demon and construct plainswalkers floating around, only a matter of time before we get an Angel walker probably as well. Shouldn't Ob Nixilis count toward the artificial construct count?
@rickliao7259
@rickliao7259 4 жыл бұрын
@Lena Johnson Ob Nixilis was originally a human who became a demon. He probably still has his own soul.
@MrFForger
@MrFForger 4 жыл бұрын
So everyone on Theros can become a planeswalker if they believe it hard enough...
@dargossss
@dargossss 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrFForger That seems logical...
@danielbretado7660
@danielbretado7660 4 жыл бұрын
I remember some theories (no proof, just speculation)that Aminatou may have changed her own fate to give herself a spark, or to ignite it automatically.
@ernestlam5632
@ernestlam5632 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@danielbretado7660
@danielbretado7660 4 жыл бұрын
@@vorthosnick Thanks Vorthos Nick. Next time, I will lurk more. (BTW, Aminatou is most OP walker. I just thought she was seeress or something)
@vorthosnick
@vorthosnick 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielbretado7660 She is my favorite planeswalker and I cannot wait to get another card of her or meet her in story. Whichever happens first.
@shadowstargaming7186
@shadowstargaming7186 4 жыл бұрын
yeah Ami is powerful but she isn't like Calix. this is a different case. Ami is a natural born person that thanks to her magic, was able to bypass the struggle/trauma/revelation required for a spark and just unlock hers early. Calix is an entirely artificial being that just *wanted* a spark to do his job and got one out of nowhere.
@duo317
@duo317 4 жыл бұрын
Calix saw elspeth planeswalking and was like, aight I'm gonna head out
@bryancontreras8099
@bryancontreras8099 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I thought the God Phenax knew that Ashiok was a planeswalker. Keep up with the great work. I love this channel and MTG lore.
@AetherHub
@AetherHub 4 жыл бұрын
He did. I talked about it in another video. Wanted to bring the Thassa connection into this one!
@The_Murder_Party
@The_Murder_Party 4 жыл бұрын
Bryan Contreras I mean kuprix knows everything anywhere on nyx, including planeswalkers.
@anthonymccuistion313
@anthonymccuistion313 4 жыл бұрын
Gingerbread woman needs a spark....Garruk ate her boyfriend
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 4 жыл бұрын
There is no excuse now.
@glitch3141
@glitch3141 4 жыл бұрын
Just going to remind everyone that when Xenagos died, he was a GOD. We don’t know what happens to gods when they die, and even less about a nyx-formed planeswalker. Where did he go? Where did his spark go? And can his shreds of reality be molded by others?
@Atiklyar
@Atiklyar 4 жыл бұрын
Xenagos sacrificed his mortal form, and his spark, in his ascension. His god card is very clearly not a planeswalker.
@Dragonlover553
@Dragonlover553 4 жыл бұрын
I read a while back that he still has his Spark as a god, they just didn’t represent it on the card. No clue what would happen if he actually used it though. Maybe he’d leave his divine self behind trying to leave. Gideon did say that gods are tied to the fabric of a plane, but Amonkhet’s gods were able to leave... when they were undead. So who knows.
@siegfried1422
@siegfried1422 2 жыл бұрын
I think The Amonkhet Gods were able to leave because the venom of the Scorpion God unraveled the gods, breaking their ties to the plane.
@Inspirawesome
@Inspirawesome 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen so many ads on a MTG video. It's borderline unwatchable without adblocker.
@adamparsons1216
@adamparsons1216 4 жыл бұрын
Omg, so we might see a dragon planeswalker now? Finally! Oh... Wait...
@JLawrencium
@JLawrencium 4 жыл бұрын
Don't care how he got it, we need more smexy male planeswalkers
@donnylurch4207
@donnylurch4207 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how much skin he is showing. I say, don't cover up all the sexy ladies, just put more dudes in skimpy outfits!
@kazune414
@kazune414 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way!!!!! they seriously need to introduce a lot more magic the gathering husbandos to make up for the death of Gideon!
@DoomStarRequiem
@DoomStarRequiem 4 жыл бұрын
The art in the thumbnail kinda gives off Prince vibes.
@gerardocardona4427
@gerardocardona4427 4 жыл бұрын
You’re so gay and probably suck at magic
@Gab8riel
@Gab8riel 4 жыл бұрын
@@gerardocardona4427 Or maybe they're female (and therefore straight)? And why would finding him attractive make you a bad player, that's pretty stupid.
@bigdill9531
@bigdill9531 4 жыл бұрын
Glad too see you back homie. Even if the story isn't worth a shit, You're making something out of nothing and we love you for it
@dragonballtalk8527
@dragonballtalk8527 4 жыл бұрын
Not my boy stangg twin back on his job
@bigdill9531
@bigdill9531 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you just said but I like the cut of your jib
@JoanneG110
@JoanneG110 4 жыл бұрын
what if calix spark is actually xnagoses that stayed in the nyx after he was defeated
@kateshungi8945
@kateshungi8945 4 жыл бұрын
Part of me wishes for this to be true
@indigo_tribe
@indigo_tribe 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. It would be so easy to say that Klothys kept Xenegos's spark and just put that into Calix. And since Xenegos died that would explain why the spark had to be reignited. That would make total sense and take ten seconds to explain.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 4 жыл бұрын
I was even hoping that Klothys was Xenagos twin he killed in the womb... but whatever.
@floor_tank_shanks4194
@floor_tank_shanks4194 4 жыл бұрын
I can see that, considering his mana consists of what red and green, like Klothys. Maybe Klothys didn't find out yet from Athreos himself that he let Elspeth go. Maybr that's why Calix is still pursuing Elspeth. He doesn't know, cause Klothys doesn't know?
@evilmonkey2184
@evilmonkey2184 4 жыл бұрын
so i wanted to wait for the video to finish to see if you brushed on the subject, and you sort of did, but i feel the reason Calix worked, and by that i mean had a soul, is because of who/what it was that created him. unlike Urza whos just a planswalker, Klothys is a god, every plane is unique, with varying lore as to the creation of life, all of which could very well be true for that plane. i know that it was mortal life believing in gods that made them real, but if the mortals of Theros believed the god's had the ability to create soul's, wouldn't they just have that ability. this is a long winded way to say that i think because the creature type that made Calix was a God, they would have that ability inherent to them, planewalkers may have been treated like god's, and in many cases were more powerful then them, but this is the real deal, only a god can create life from scratch perfectly, i just feel like thats kind of their thing.
@AngelMageKnight
@AngelMageKnight 4 жыл бұрын
While I could understand gods being able to create souls, but dose that mean all gods can. THe amonket gods couldn't as far as I am aware. Also they should at least mention it in the lore to help explain things. Like the god of Destiny crafted a soul similar to a planeswalker that had died on Theroes long ago. Something to help that explanation.
@evilmonkey2184
@evilmonkey2184 4 жыл бұрын
@@AngelMageKnight man, any amount of lore would be welcome in this set. I love the idea though, it's a shame when the fan fiction is better than the cannon
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, gods do create people. The Nyxborn. People that are half mortal half nyx. We have no idea if they could planeswalk
@DrPlant-fg9yn
@DrPlant-fg9yn 4 жыл бұрын
I am still upset that Mowu gets to planeswalk with Jiang. (Also Kaya being about to bring one person)
@bigdill9531
@bigdill9531 4 жыл бұрын
That was some forsaken bullshit. Cannon Kaya can't pull that off. My cannons everything but those two war novels.
@lach7324
@lach7324 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigdill9531 hell yeah
@kyleellis9177
@kyleellis9177 4 жыл бұрын
Or kiora basically being an old walker by bringing dozens of sea monsters.
@lach7324
@lach7324 4 жыл бұрын
@@kyleellis9177 well that one actually has a bit of precedent. She does have the bident of thassa, meaning she is basically adding a gods power to her own.
@kyleellis9177
@kyleellis9177 4 жыл бұрын
@@lach7324 she did it before she had bident. its weird she can still summon creatures from other planes and garruk also did in one of his first comics. walkers should have lost the ability post future sight.
@Krishnath.Dragon
@Krishnath.Dragon 4 жыл бұрын
The Demigods were once mortals who died, then got resurrected as Nyxborn (thus being enchantment creatures), therefore Calix could technically still have a soul.
@MrGallobird
@MrGallobird 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like the nyx is just a version of the warp from warhammer.
@czernobog1731
@czernobog1731 4 жыл бұрын
Time for Sliver and Eldrazi planes walkers :^)
@gregoryoaks2173
@gregoryoaks2173 4 жыл бұрын
A sliver walker would be dope, but much like demons, the eldrazi already exsist in a state that traverses the blind eternities without a spark. Also, ever since Ugin revealed that the eldrazi are the extension of a being that resides in the blind eternities they probably are what a sliver planeswalker would look like.
@kyleellis9177
@kyleellis9177 4 жыл бұрын
I want a Phyrexian Koth walker and since red was the not fully evil color he can be neutral.
@antigrav6004
@antigrav6004 4 жыл бұрын
And phyrexian. Sign me tf up.
@efremvarnadoii2849
@efremvarnadoii2849 4 жыл бұрын
You know all they really had to do was say they used a planeswalker's spark native to theros like Xenagos or Gideon as apart of Calex's creation and nobody woud be mad. If anything people would think the creative team was smart. As they now have a God/Plainswalker that is "dead" and Gideon who just died. They had 2 ripe apples and chose to ignore them for a retcon
@codiehennigan6007
@codiehennigan6007 4 жыл бұрын
Now this is my thought, enchantments can essentially be anything and there have been artifacts in the past that can allow for movement in between planes, what if Klothis essentially created an enchantment which can do that very thing🤷🏼‍♂️
@chrismalone2136
@chrismalone2136 4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing in the mytho's that state the Nyx born don't have souls, just that they are enchantment beings made from the Nyx a spiritual meta-physical force fueled by belief, not mana.
@joshuaperrine2019
@joshuaperrine2019 4 жыл бұрын
It seems less like a retcon and more like you're jumping to conclusions and filling in blanks with your best guesses.
@Xerin0
@Xerin0 4 жыл бұрын
They could've just said that he altered the origin of his creation to be compatible with a spark
@gregoryoaks2173
@gregoryoaks2173 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Ob Nix had his spark suppressed by a hedron implanted in him, not the transformation of the curse suppressing it.
@jacobdominguez916
@jacobdominguez916 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm you refer to the Nyxborn as artificial and constructs, but I believe they are just another form of life coming to be as all other “regular” life forms are on Theros. Even though their way of being born is more unique. It reminds me of the short lived (unless vampiric) Aetherborn on Kaladesh, though born differently, they seem to have souls and may as well be like other forms of life like humans, dwarfs, and elves from the plane. These life forms seem far less artificial that those of phyrexia. As for being different from demons and angels, it seems harder to differentiate them. Perhaps the cycle of demons and angels dying and “resurrecting “ disrupts this planeswalker compatibility making them more artificial mana beings. Just my theory on this ^_^
@josephbrenton3164
@josephbrenton3164 4 жыл бұрын
It means the writers got lazy
@phobiawitch835
@phobiawitch835 3 жыл бұрын
I saw another comment after a TON of scrolling that voices my own thoughts on the subject of Sparks. And that is, The Elderspell. While I’m not entirely sure what all was entailed by it, Planeswalker Sparks were a major component of the spell, to the point that Bolas was making NEW walkers on Ravnica during the War of the Spark to make himself a god (or god-like as Planeswalkers were before the mending). We know that sparks were essentially torn out of mortals, and fueled the spell. It makes me wonder, after Calix, if the spell changed the Essence of the Planeswalker Spark. We had Pre-Mending Walkers, Post-Mending(modern) Walkers. The spell may be something similar to The Mending, with all the concentrated mana and sparks changing the core of the multiverse in a way thag we will now have the new “Post-War Walkers”, a new generation that will follow their predecessors in shaping the multiverse. And are possibly with fewer limitations upon them, as Nyxborn are Aether given mortal shape, but not mortal body. They are very much Walking Souls that will turn to nothing if and when they perish, after all. Anyways, that was just a theory of mine, and I’m excited for more of the Post-War Walkers to be revealed to us! Didn’t we have a set of Twins who share a spark in Eldraine, something that I haven’t heard of in recent memory. That’s likely the first example of a Post-War spark we were introduced to, and Calix is the latest.
@BretasDoc
@BretasDoc 4 жыл бұрын
Calix is the MTG version of the Terminator. I love it 🤩
@numnut154
@numnut154 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I wish we could go back to not having Planeswalkers in every single bloody set, back to when the players were the Planeswalkers exploring all these different worlds through our own eyes.
@kodiewillems5718
@kodiewillems5718 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the whole bloody point of the game is "your a wizard versing another wizard, casting spells and summoning creatures to beat your opponent". Never once heard the player was meant to be a planeswalker 🤔😪
@pogeman2345
@pogeman2345 4 жыл бұрын
@@kodiewillems5718 That's actually the whole background story of the game. Players are meant to be planeswalkers that go from plane to plane and battle each other. Technically yes, the players are 'wizards' because planeswalkers are wizards. That's why every planeswalker has their own signature form of magic like Jace's mind magic, Chandra's pyromancy, and Liliana's necromancy.
@red_spect3r833
@red_spect3r833 4 жыл бұрын
For Calix’s Spark, it could be a case similar to that of the Worldsouls. Either Klothis, maybe even the Gods in general without them fully knowing, or some other factor could have been powerful enough to allow for this to happen.
@tokenbenji
@tokenbenji 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work. :)
@topherrobeson4446
@topherrobeson4446 4 жыл бұрын
Is it at all possible that after the war of the spark there has been a "remending" of sorts and the multiverse is trying to recorrect itself by more planeswalkers being awakened? Is there anything to deny this being the spark of xenagos, gideon, or another unnamed planeswalker that was in the underworld that klothys repurposed without knowing what it is?
@enderhayes4211
@enderhayes4211 4 жыл бұрын
As sad as I am to say it, I'm pretty sure since Gideon died off of Theros that his soul/spark couldn't be in the underworld. Xenagos on the other hand is entirely possible, unless becoming a god means you give up your ability to go to the underworld for some stupid divinity reason like "to be a god you must give up your mortal shell and become pure spirit" so when he died it wasn't so much that his body died but that his soul was destroyed....this was a very long winded way to say Gideon no but i agree with Xenagos
@tracephage
@tracephage Жыл бұрын
Angels can't be planeswalkers... Elspeth: "Hold my sword"
@UniGya
@UniGya 4 жыл бұрын
Calix is more of a corner case as opposed to throwing out the rules. In a way Calix is an amalgamation of all mortal souls as he was created by the power of mortals beliefs which created Nyx and by extension Clothys. In this way, Calix is more like if Karn than you think. While he wasn't made of a specific mortal soul he is sort of a golem made of magic rather than metal with a mortal soul forced into it
@herolumierelumanite1608
@herolumierelumanite1608 4 жыл бұрын
Is it weird I want something like a Kobold Planeswalker? Just something really out there that actually sounds weird? I think we had a Goblin or two Planeswalker, but I can't remember.
@ricardoboetto8650
@ricardoboetto8650 4 жыл бұрын
Slobad and Daretti
@DanyF02
@DanyF02 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me realize there was a missed opportunity for a squirrel planeswalker in the recent un-set.
@MadMage86
@MadMage86 4 жыл бұрын
This is something I've pondered since Theros first introduced actual God cards to the game; Planeswalkers themselves were the closest thing in MTG lore to being actually omnipotent beings pre-mending. Theros itself is an utterly unique plane in the MTG world and the existence of actually omnipotent and omniscient (within their frame of being) beings does pose some interesting questions about the nature of their existence - Nyx itself is quite probably energy from the Blind Eternities and Theros is simply a world with unique qualities which allows that energy to manifest, unto actual Gods being formed of ideas and mana. Either way, if anyone can create a being capable of bending the rules of the mulitverse, would it not be a God?
@dahl7817
@dahl7817 4 жыл бұрын
And now Calix is mtg's terminator.
@zachcrouch168
@zachcrouch168 4 жыл бұрын
Calix meeting Karn would be interesting. Calix could definitely use some mentoring from someone.
@kyleellis9177
@kyleellis9177 4 жыл бұрын
Garruk and Calix buddy cop one discovering for the first time and the other relearning how to be human. following Elspeth/Rowan/Will who meet up. she mentors the knightly twins and garruk mentors Calix. GArruk and Calix both following the 3 not really knowing the full reasons of either.
@gyorgyor7765
@gyorgyor7765 Жыл бұрын
Calix got desparked.
@mysterygamer4086
@mysterygamer4086 4 жыл бұрын
IMPORTANT NOTE: WHAT I SAY HERE IS NOT BASED ON FACTS JUST BY LOGIC The nyxborn are beings of mana but they form natural bodies when outside the nyx, that is explained by the fact that they are enchantment creatures but the creature type dosent change. Beast are still beast, fish are still fish and humans are still human
@adeladekoza6558
@adeladekoza6558 4 жыл бұрын
It seems as though the Nyxborn are mortal by “different” physics. They are still “born” and in Calix’s case being born fully formed adult, his destiny/fate was written/woven into Nyx/Theros as though he was always there, an aspect of the plane we are only now seeing that Klothys emerged from the underworld.
@blujay2979
@blujay2979 4 жыл бұрын
What if this whole thing was because of the elderspell?
@Chickeen0shaw
@Chickeen0shaw 4 жыл бұрын
Could be that the elder spell desparking people could cause new spark rules.
@twenty-fifth420
@twenty-fifth420 4 жыл бұрын
Chickeen Shaw Earlier then that tbh. The Pre Mending Spark was honestly OP. Like we are talking characters who can create planes OP. Like Serra with Serras Realm, Karn with Argentum/Mirrodin and a few others. Since the Mending, Planeswalkers are now more Mortal then Immortal then before and the Elder Spell was implied to re elevate Bolas back to his pre mending days. So it was time we got some updated spark rules, but we have retconned the rules once before and outright nerfed them once before with the Mending. Glad to see a new ‘type’ of Planeswalker, but I just wish we could undo the mending sometimes.
@brandonbrooks779
@brandonbrooks779 4 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine Athreos at least knows of Elspethbeing a planeswalker
@MrTzirkel
@MrTzirkel 4 жыл бұрын
About the mortal soul thing, what about ugin and nícol bolas? And angrath? These are not humans whatsoever but plainswalkers nevertheless. Anyway thanks for this video and the others. You are doing a great job. It's much more relevant now when you are our only source for some lore :)
@tonysmith9905
@tonysmith9905 4 жыл бұрын
Well, Bolas and Ugin are "old" walkers, planeswalkers from before the Time Spiral event. The only new rules that apply to them is how powerful the spark makes them. But still, all three have mortal souls any ways, even if the dragons cheated their mortality.
@lucatraverso3495
@lucatraverso3495 4 жыл бұрын
There where sooooo many ways to justify his spark in a coherent and beautiful way
@dakotamcintire7419
@dakotamcintire7419 4 жыл бұрын
Ob nixilis's spark was only suppressed because when he fought Nahiri on zendikar eons ago she shoved a small hedron into him, suppressing his spark and his power. Later conflicts resulted in his hedron being removed, and by manipulating the hedrons during the eldrazi conflict, he channeled enough of zendikars mana into himself to forcibly reignite his spark. All that said, he was initially cursed by the chain veil long before that all happened, and it was in search of a means to break that curse, lured by the rich mana of the plane, that led him to zendikar in the first place.
@dimmok8344
@dimmok8344 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Urza wasn’t a normal planes walker but became one due to the thran artifacts he found. (It’s been a long time since I’ve read his lore)
@michaeld2440
@michaeld2440 3 жыл бұрын
Very late comment, but I built a deck with Calix recently and noticed something in his art. He has one of those golden masks on his arm, same as character's like Daxos who died on theros and came back to life. I think Daxos might have a soul and thus a normal spark, resurrected and used by Klothys.
@MackAttack-vh1vz
@MackAttack-vh1vz 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always bro!
@TravisSchachtner
@TravisSchachtner 4 жыл бұрын
Here is what they could have done, Calix was formed from a collection of souls that gave him the abilities he needed to hunt Elspeth. One of those souls had an unawakened spark and by using it in the mix gave him the potential to planeswalker. That would make planes walkers like the highlanders, some people have the spark and it just never happens, making the activation of a spark more rare. Done.
@ungulatemanalpha
@ungulatemanalpha 4 жыл бұрын
If only we had some sort of narrative format designed to tell us about important aspects of the Magic: the Gathering universe! Alas.
@joshuaperrine2019
@joshuaperrine2019 4 жыл бұрын
When was it stated that nyxborn don't have souls?
@kukivave
@kukivave 4 жыл бұрын
pretty simple fix... Xenagos was a planeswalker who ascended into Nyx (ergo his spark ascended into Nyx)... They could just say because of this, the fabric of Nyx occupied by Xenagos upon his death, was imbued with his spark... so if Kloyths created Calex from Xenagos's mana, he inherited his spark.
@InvaderZim07
@InvaderZim07 4 жыл бұрын
So, I’m new to MTG. Reeled in by the Godzilla stuff what can I say. But the first stuff I looked into to get a feel for things was Eldraine. I was told it was a good jumping on point since it was a whole new plane right after some other big lore event (WOTS). I instantly grafted onto the Planeswalkers and felt some endearment towards Oko and the Twins. But. That trailer. That dang trailer, man. If Calix means the Gingerbreadwoman can be a planeswalker in some iteration in the future, I am all for it. Lore is important, but I could see a mass death of Planeswalkers causing some shift in the multiverse. And that shift might allow for sparks to form in those once not thought possible.
@dakotamcintire7419
@dakotamcintire7419 4 жыл бұрын
If thos retcon allows other species to become planeswalkers, then Im keeping my fingers crossed for a sliver planeswalker XD
@456Tal
@456Tal Жыл бұрын
Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer becomes a Planeswalker at some point because of Memnarchs machine...
@MrRaisinBran
@MrRaisinBran 4 жыл бұрын
What if the magic put into Calix made it possible for a spark to be created? I mean, he seems pretty tailor made to the task of brining in Elspeth. Elspeth is a Planeswalker. It stands to reason that we may not know just how powerful destiny magic really is. Perhaps he was given a mortal soul unknowingly. That being the only way a being like Elspeth could possibly be brought back, it was part of his creation. I mean, this is a multiverse where some people can SHARE a spark merely by virtue of being twins. That's pretty awkward too.
@MrRaisinBran
@MrRaisinBran 4 жыл бұрын
Ultimately, I think it'll come out that Calix is far more than a simple Nyxborn
@MrRaisinBran
@MrRaisinBran 4 жыл бұрын
It's also not the first time the nature of the spark has changed.
@joystickgenie
@joystickgenie 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at this with a Greek mythology point of view it can make sense. Greek gods can create mortals with mortal souls. Prometheus shaped man out of mud, and Athena breathed life into his clay figure. So you could look to it as that. When Klothys created Calix she did so in a way that imbued him with a soul and therefore can gain a spark.
@darthrevan2410
@darthrevan2410 4 жыл бұрын
Only mortal souls can have a spark! CALIX: hold my beer.......
@AngelMageKnight
@AngelMageKnight 4 жыл бұрын
What if Calix is a new type of Nyxborn born capable of having a Soul, and like the angels and Demons could visit other planes, or something like that. Having a soul would actually help his story in future sets as he could defy his creator.
@raydelmartinez2905
@raydelmartinez2905 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, so Calix is the first of it's kind. I had to go watch your lore video on Serra after this, since I was thinking she was an Angel. Keep up the good work.
@christopherlewis6423
@christopherlewis6423 4 жыл бұрын
Id point out that davriel is a person with a dead worlds avatar inside him that gives him his power to planeswalk i believe theres also a twin who killed her otherside to complete the bog avatar from innistrad then planesd away so maybe avatars can and calix will be reconned as a avatar planeswalker maybe thatd cover the nyx creation.
@SinfulTitan
@SinfulTitan 4 жыл бұрын
Wotc: Hasbro told us we MUST make them more money.... Sooooo.... planes walkers are whatever we want now... oh, you dont like that? Must be this sets not for you.
@DrukenReaps
@DrukenReaps 4 жыл бұрын
I think demon lore could perhaps be used to help this all make sense. It is going to probably require another ret-con... Or someone with more knowledge than me about MTG lore. But since Demons, and Eldrazi too, are able to not planeswalk but move between planes perhaps the line there could be blurred more and the way in which that travel is achieved could be more closely related to planeswalking.
@quincyking010
@quincyking010 4 жыл бұрын
Since we don't truly know what the spark really is it is possible for any living or undead to be a planeswalker
@Tonz_of_Fun
@Tonz_of_Fun 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy! Who else us waiting for the elesh norn planeswalker? Since anything can be a planeswalker now that means the phyrexians are gonna figure it out and start spreading.
@DuxBellorum13
@DuxBellorum13 4 жыл бұрын
This will lead to the first Phyrexian Planeswalker and the return of the Phyrexian Threat being the big bad.
@SoundsOfSushi
@SoundsOfSushi 4 жыл бұрын
Why does Calix look like a sexy Robb Stark?
@Soldierjason1
@Soldierjason1 4 жыл бұрын
I would have said that Klothys grabbed Xenegos’s mortal soul and bound it to Calix. That would explain the spark.
@kyleellis9177
@kyleellis9177 4 жыл бұрын
i figured Calix was a demigod so someone who died. i figure he was someone who died a long time ago and klothys stuck his ancient soul into a new demigod/golem body
@totalcoward
@totalcoward 4 жыл бұрын
Do we have any idea when in the timeline Theros Beyond takes place? Like is this before, during, or after War of the Spark. Mainly asking because the most we saw of Gideon/Kytheon was Taranika’s flavor text referencing him, and I honestly expected him to at least appear on a saga.
@grimtopia4804
@grimtopia4804 4 жыл бұрын
Calixs spark ignited because he was created to guide fate ergo keep elspeth from leaving the underworld he failed at that which basically broke him proving that his entire existence was useless because he couldn't chase her but now his spark then ignites where the trauma met devotion
@commonsense9173
@commonsense9173 4 жыл бұрын
She didn't create his spark. She, as the god of fate, fated him to have one.
@torrieitazura4343
@torrieitazura4343 3 жыл бұрын
What I don't get is that the artificial creations built by klothy's have emotions. How is that possible and wouldn't that effect the future because they can get emotionally attached to things
@brandonguffey5959
@brandonguffey5959 4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing in magic that says nyxborn do not have mortal souls. On Theros, being nyxborn isn't artificial, it's a natural form of birth unique to the plane. Also don't forget Memnarch built a spark transferring machine so obviously sparks can move.
@oogaboogabe3464
@oogaboogabe3464 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think this retcon is for the best. I think it should be if you have a soul, you can Planeswalk.
@johnathangarland8501
@johnathangarland8501 4 жыл бұрын
I love your content! Keep it up
@rollingsnail7277
@rollingsnail7277 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the planeswalkers of mirrodin were also artificial. I may be wrong because it's been a while since I've even read the lore, but I'm pretty sure Memnarch gave the plane life to farm for a planeswalker spark to put into himself to spite Karn.
@Philigan87
@Philigan87 3 жыл бұрын
My head cannon is that Klothys used Xenagos soul to craft Calix. Xenagos died in Nyx, so his sould could have still been there for Klothys to capture ans repurpose.
@ArdenWhitefur
@ArdenWhitefur 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Aethur Hub... fun theory... what if Calix's spark was taken from Xenagos? Would be interesting and fit with the lore. Though I will admit the impossibility as Xenagos is pretty much dead.
@DavidHernandez-yc3cq
@DavidHernandez-yc3cq 4 жыл бұрын
some time ago my friends would argue with me, because i would say demons could go to any plane. but they argued with me because MaRo didnt list them as beings able to planeswalk.
@proudlarry8225
@proudlarry8225 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I think that there is no discernible restriction on who or even what can be a Planeswalker, only that the powers that be beyond the blind eternities acknowledge their existence. If anything, BECOMING a Planeswalker might have a greater effect on somebody than the event which ignited their spark. As I suspect the case may be for Calix. As a Nyxborne manifested directly by a goddess, you would think that Calix would be merely a construct, a pawn, without soul or will of their own and only the simulation of such to better aid their purpose. But by igniting his spark at the existential crisis he had confronting Elspeth, we might see him struggle with newfound independence and soul granted by his spark. I think a heel face turn is in the works for Calix.
@CRIMS0N_KING
@CRIMS0N_KING 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a non-humanoid planeswalker
@tsizzle7883
@tsizzle7883 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think this is a retcon for how sparks work. If anything, it's a retcon for how Nyxborn work.
@rockonblackops777
@rockonblackops777 4 жыл бұрын
Karn isn't just anything he us from Urza which is his pass. But the other one is ...
@Andrewdet06
@Andrewdet06 4 жыл бұрын
you said furious rage instead of furious rise 6:28
@eaglespiritt
@eaglespiritt 4 жыл бұрын
In the next set only forests and islands will be able to planeswalk
@VirtuesOfSin
@VirtuesOfSin 4 жыл бұрын
There was a Demon Planeswalker and an Angel Planeswalker?
@Andrewdet06
@Andrewdet06 4 жыл бұрын
technically
@Hysube
@Hysube 4 жыл бұрын
I mean when a walker dies (xenagos) their spark jumps around to another worthy vessel mayhaps when xenagos gave his spark to be a god klothys got ahold of it somehow?
@tristansmithrhamos1866
@tristansmithrhamos1866 4 жыл бұрын
Better have Glissa come back as a planeswalker then
@houndoom73
@houndoom73 4 жыл бұрын
I love the background music in your videos
@Hakelous
@Hakelous 4 жыл бұрын
my current guess is xenogoss spark could have been fused to him
@kurtsloop2462
@kurtsloop2462 4 жыл бұрын
I nominate Stuffy Doll to be a planeswalker
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is a flavor miss not to make this guy an enchantment planeswalker.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 4 жыл бұрын
I still think Klothys should have been Naya colours (red/green/white) fate and destiny= nature. Calix needs ''Calix counts as an enchantment'' added on the card What about Karn? :P
@Happymasks
@Happymasks 4 жыл бұрын
The wrong god was chosen to do this in my opinion. Klohtys should have asked Kruphix to create her new champion since the latter god instantly learns everything that anyone who steps into the plane knows. The only thin excuse that I can see happening is since she and Xenagos share the same colors, she used his Spark to form Calix.
@JoeNeutrino
@JoeNeutrino 4 жыл бұрын
Considering Klothys's role in the pantheon, I don't understand why she's red-green. Her purpose is to maintain the order of fate. She should be white instead of red.
@Lancealphas
@Lancealphas 4 жыл бұрын
Karn actually has 2 sparks. Gerrad had a spark that had not ignited and Urza's
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