I hate they killed two of the eldrazi by burning them, but I like that it was through channel + fireball
@alexbelfry87964 жыл бұрын
A few things let me accept it. First they just burned their physical forms right? the actual ''eldrazi'' whatever that may be could well still exist in the blind eternities. And it was a fireball powered by an entire plane that's whole characteristic is ''extremely pumped with mana''
@llongone24 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how big your creature is; it will die to a channel+fireball!
@kyoken86914 жыл бұрын
@@alexbelfry8796 They first pulled the whole body of the eldrazi into the plane. The story makes it clear that the full bodies of ulamog ang kozilek were so huge they filled up the whole sky of zendikar. Then they torched them. This was the only way, according to Ugin, to kill an Eldrazi, because if even a piece of them remained in the blind eternities they could run away and recover eventually.
@hyperluke10344 жыл бұрын
Kyoken exactky what I thought, they like forced them to reveal their entire forms somehow (I forget exactly how, probably bedrooms)
@kyoken86914 жыл бұрын
@@hyperluke1034 They actually just pulled really hard. Ugin used this analogy. Imagine the plane as a lake and the inhabitants as the fish living in the lake. The Eldrazi is like a hand entering the lake to catch the fish. If you cut the hand, the rest of the Eldrazi is still outside the lake, so what you do is use the hand to drag them down into the water and kill them while they're submerged.
@kenthehobo4 жыл бұрын
He is back!!!
@tylerwilldrickable4 жыл бұрын
I was also waiting for him to return before I listened to another lore video
@Iruka19914 жыл бұрын
Naruto shippuden op1 sounds in the distance
@ry7hym4 жыл бұрын
yes! yay!
@DragonspineInfiniteZero3 жыл бұрын
I love the logic in nissa plan let me released starved world eaters in hopes they'll turn tail and run on a world that would be a hefty meal for them, and it's still weird nihiri or nissa dont even bring this up in their match in zendikar rising
@Thumpdizzle4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks for giving me something to listen to on my beer walk!!
@MrEugene1124 жыл бұрын
Wow based on other posts of yours I thought the Vorthos wave was over. I'm glad you are back to feeding our addiction.
@DiceTry4 жыл бұрын
Great video my dude! Glad to see you haven't abandoned your MTG Channel
@andreschion23344 жыл бұрын
I hadn't realized that Nahiri also blamed Sorin for the presence of vampires in her plane. I guess that Ulamog in a way copied Sorin's condition to create them.
@malouqvastor44554 жыл бұрын
You’re telling me Nahiri trapped the eldrazi with the power of rock and roll?
@keenanevans78884 жыл бұрын
What about the entire sorin vs nahiri arc, where nahiri went to innistrad saying "the fuck, bro" Sorin retorts with "lol sorry, but you fixed it so w/e" So nahiri goes on a rampage and sorin locked her in the hellvault, then she broke free, murdered all of Sorin's family, stuck him in a wall, and then called emrakul to Sorin's home plane all in the name of revenge, leading to the "Shadows over Innistrad" couple of sets I guess it's more innistrad lore, but it seems like a big exclusion that explains nahiri's absence from Battle For Zendikar EDIT: OH it's summed up in two lines at the end
@garrett14334 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see ya!! I'm happy we are returning because the lack of Angel's in magic is making me sad;-;
@snoopanoop77054 жыл бұрын
This is so nostalgic since I started playing MTG in Zendikar.
@bosstsuna1144 жыл бұрын
Which one lmao
@snoopanoop77054 жыл бұрын
@@bosstsuna114 Original Zendikar
@bosstsuna1144 жыл бұрын
@@snoopanoop7705 ik I was just making a joke
@matthewkress61614 жыл бұрын
Same! The original Zendikar set was the first set that I started playing MTG
@iainoftheizzetleague98504 жыл бұрын
I started on dragons of tarkir
@superCattaz4 жыл бұрын
"omfg we couldn't make Zendikar the big adventure plane because of the Eldrazi, we hate them, we never gonna have them again!!1!1!1" ~at Wizards headquarters. What a waste of villain potential, the best after Bolas.
@muse68154 жыл бұрын
There is still one Eldrazi though. Granted it's currently living in the moon on Innistrad if my memory is working, but they are not gone. Merely waiting.
@hoppeltrottel74844 жыл бұрын
That is not dead what does eternal lie, until strange eons, even death may die.
@CT-12553 жыл бұрын
@@muse6815 yeah emrakul put herself in the moon so she's definitely plotting something
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena3 жыл бұрын
@@CT-1255 I think she is starting up a cult because she only sealed herself away as the plane was not ready yet as i think she liked the idea of being worshiped either that or she is trying to produce something that she can mate with considering how she mutated just about everything to be a Eldrazi hybrid and considering there were only two known male ones yeah she had to do that. Realistically though its option 1 as she was shown to take interest in Human emotions but was probably messing with Jayce however there was no reason for the god to seal herself other than to provide a perfect opportunity to study Emotions
@GodxOfxObelisk4 жыл бұрын
GREAT video, Simon. I wasn't playing during this set and appreciate the catch-up on the lore. I'm not a WoW fan, but good luck with your passion for that manifesting into a KZbin channel.
@jonathonkissell4434 жыл бұрын
Welcome back
@AetherHub4 жыл бұрын
thanks my dude
@Damonxv164 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Perfect for both old players who wanted to brush up and for the new who wanted/needed a quick summary.
@HexproofAnarchist4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming back for lore, Seiben. Great vid!
@tadeovalverdemolina97194 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! I've always loved your lore content. Subbed to your other channel as well! Keep it up, Seiben!
@ГригорийГ-ч4н4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that you are little incorrect about initial part. Specifically Ugin met Sorin and Nahiri when they lost battle on some world overrun by eldrazi, and not called Sorin in while Nahiri was preparing hedron network.
@artaratoryx40774 жыл бұрын
WoW and MTG lore? You sir are sent from heaven
@aquagirl51494 жыл бұрын
Ok this is freaking insane. I have never heard of this or seen any ads and yet I had a very vivid dream of this place .... lol
@planarcleansing4 жыл бұрын
Wasnt Ob Nixilis' spark suppressed by a hedron placed on him by Nahiri and was later removed by Jace to put in Garruk or is the whole early mtg digital games non canon?
@thefrontman99963 жыл бұрын
True or no?
@miguelfreitas53434 жыл бұрын
Damn, i am now a lot more hyped for the lore of the next MTG set 😍😍
@EffinChat4 жыл бұрын
Great video - really enjoyed the chronology that you set up within the 25 minutes I spent with you on Zendikar! Few questions regarding lore though - firstly, I thought that Ugin was the spirit dragon way before he even met with Sorin and Naihiri and didn't become so before reappearing on Zendikar to tutor Jace. Question the second - you mentioned that the reason Naihiri sealed herself in stone was to extend her life, but I thought that as an Old Walker she was effectively immortal? Thirdly, you mentioned that in Zendikar Rising we'll see the world as Nissa knew it, pre-eldrazi corruption... Isn't Nissa a NewWalker, so wouldn't her entire life be the eldrazi had been sealed on Zendikar, meaning this world will be different for her too?
@rjphilla4 жыл бұрын
Love these Lore vids, the amount of ads is frustrating though.
@octopunch93004 жыл бұрын
Whats up man? Good to have you back!
@framzelgranada90884 жыл бұрын
YES!!!! BEST MTG LORE CHANNEL ON KZbin!
@diggerdog92054 жыл бұрын
Better than a guy in a chair lol
@TacticalDingus3 жыл бұрын
they NEED to make a movie about this even like the WoW movie kind of animated. they could expand on this universe and make so much content its insane
@clarknes31114 жыл бұрын
Please keep doing these for future returns! this is great!
@Suavek694 жыл бұрын
This "bolas wanted to see if someone would rise up to the threat" idea is SO WEAK it really ruins the whole thing
@patrickterryjr47644 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@tochoXK34 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, it's actually part of a very complicated masterplan that cumulates in War of the Spark (he wants a group of planeswalkers to form to fight the Eldrazi, because these planeswalkers might want to defeat him, which he can use to lay his trap) kzbin.info/www/bejne/boSrm5idZqmHfNU
@gunheelee44174 жыл бұрын
its good to see that youre back meng
@Sephirothstrife-yk8en4 жыл бұрын
Great to see you again sieben and thank you for your awesome videos. You are the reason I am a vorthos and I hope that your other projects are going well as well.
@robertwalmsley14 жыл бұрын
I love lores like these thankyou
@HughManatea4 жыл бұрын
So glad I can not wait for the next Zendikar set.
@cyborgcat42624 жыл бұрын
Wizards had the chance to create the triumvirate and they went with the "THREE". You got to be kidding me
@The_Loreseeker4 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, glad to see you making more lore videos.
@redghost57054 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Glad your back
@Vidious8084 жыл бұрын
I missed the old hub videos like this. Sooooo good. 👍
@Maw_thuugn4 жыл бұрын
Love the nice and focused lore video. Looking forward to more focused on other planes
@lirangorgon4 жыл бұрын
By the gods, it's good to have you back
@monsieurm0u7314 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how much zendikar looked like ikoria before the eldrazi
@jakoberntson12384 жыл бұрын
You reminded me that I need to go to ABU and pick up some packs.
@callumreilly9107 Жыл бұрын
Was there a retcon? The MTG wiki says that Ob Nixilis lost his spark because Nahiri stuck the hedron in his skull. Edit: Also at about 6:50 , you say that Nahiri encased herself in stone to extend her "mortal life". It's my understanding that, as a pre-mending planeswalker, she was immortal. Additionally, I remember reading a story (which I can no longer find) which recounted how she had lived alongside the Kor but eventually grew detached as she was timeless and they were mortal, doomed to die over and over. So she eventually retired to slumber in the stone (attached to the pulse of the world essentially) to only awaken when needed. Then she woke up and discovered vampires and went "???"
@tomatojeff21744 жыл бұрын
Joriiiiiiiiii ennnnnnnn... is cool.
@BlackJack21R4 жыл бұрын
Ugin, became the spirit dragon when Bolas killed him on the meditation realm when he dived into it's waters and came back something more, its in the core set lore.
@owenphillipsilvesterlopes38184 жыл бұрын
Man we miss you a lot...dont stop doing this goodlwork...
@ninjaofthedarkstar4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Surely 8 ad breaks is a bit of an overkill?
@AetherHub4 жыл бұрын
Dude I’m so sorry. I turned on automatic mid ad rolls. No idea that would add so many. Moving forward I should just put on the ad at the start only
@johnsabilla58974 жыл бұрын
I subbed on your channel way back during battle for Zendikar.
@AmritaZardor4 жыл бұрын
This was a great recap!
@MrJoberg4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the MtG Netflix series
@patrickterryjr47644 жыл бұрын
Same
@watchandbeamazed95794 жыл бұрын
Aether hub = the goat
@SpectrumTide4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this beautiful lore video sir!!
@c.d.dailey80134 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh! I love World of Warcraft. It is my favorite game. I am usually annoyed by calls to action, but I am really interested in the second channel. I am going to check it out. I also like Magic the Gathering. I got into that game much later. In this video, I learned a lot about what Zendikar is like. It is basically the Magic the Gathering plane with a Lovecraft theme. The idea of the mana and life of the world is interesting. It is also noteworthy for having the gatewatch. I find this group interesting. There is Nissa, Chandra, Jace and Gideon. I have noticed something. There is no Lilliana in this video. I wonder what happened to her. I am used to her being with the other four. Oh well. Sorin does have black, like she does. Maybe he takes her place in this story. In a way, the Eldrazi titans are the Magic the Gathering version of the Old God in World of Warcraft. Between those two games having Lovecraft and eldrich abominations is a thing.
@cwill10904 жыл бұрын
I want to know more about omnath, it's easy to see that he has had three cards so far and each new one adds a color, and in the artwork we've seen it looks like they are throwing white in next. What's up with that?
@bluedog42484 жыл бұрын
Omnath is one of my favorite legendaries. What I'm guessing is he is becoming close to becoming Zendikar's soul. White is the color of order, so he might get intelligent at this point, possibly even becoming a Planeswalker later
@cwill10904 жыл бұрын
@@bluedog4248 nah, he'll never become a planeswalker. But I'd be fine with him becoming the plane's avatar. I honestly don't know if a single non-pw to have a many cards as him.
@skyarrow92554 жыл бұрын
@@cwill1090 I think Niv-Mizzet has more cards.
@cwill10904 жыл бұрын
@@skyarrow9255 ooh, good call!
@jimcharles14794 жыл бұрын
i hope he goes black as he suppose to represent the the divine manifestation of the wild and chaotic mana of zendikar though the fact that he suppose to be divine can make him go white but at the end he'll end in all five colors magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/worldwake-plane-revolt-2010-01-18
@charlielarson24074 жыл бұрын
Okay since the eldrazi are in innistrad eating which one would you rather see slivers or myr or the phyrexian or a combination of all three
@Haurent4 жыл бұрын
Listening to every planeswalker's actions gives me a headache. Make your guesses
@carlsiminiano33634 жыл бұрын
Can you cover the last apex of ikorai Vadrok the apex of thunder im curious of its lore
@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow4 жыл бұрын
The best mtg series is back!
@WolffangLightwood4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but you got the timeframe between the Nissa shattering the last seal and the return of Gideon with help only took the span of a single year, not three
@cis224 жыл бұрын
So... Nicol Bolas knew of the Eldrazi from Ugin, and was the one who planned to release the Eldrazi, which eventually led to the formation of the Gatewatch, and that same Gatewatch eventually defeated Nicol Bolas in Ravnica with the help of Ugin. What the hell, Bolas!
@patrickterryjr47644 жыл бұрын
The whole he wanted to see if they could defeat them and then him too was literally disappointing
@keiths81ca2 жыл бұрын
One 5e adventure that fits well with this plane is Princes of the Apocolapyse. Has anyone run this campaign in Zendikar?
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus82994 жыл бұрын
Gideon: Hi Chandra I hear you like big burly men. Chandra does not answer just stares at Nissa dreamily as if that action in itself was all the spoken words needed between them :) I think my favorite story from the Zendikar block is about General Tazri surviving the time distortion effects of Kozilek.
@Zizi_top3 жыл бұрын
Great job, thanks!
@jennaeasley22772 жыл бұрын
Why was sorin confused about where nahiri was when he had been the one to lock her in the hellvaut?
@Infernoblade10104 жыл бұрын
Love your work!!
@j-lohome-slice74254 жыл бұрын
Zendikar is such an amazing plane
@thegooddoctor4134 жыл бұрын
Everything on Zendikar: I’m fighting for my life
@RagsLighthouses4 жыл бұрын
Vid was sick, that was so many midroll ads tho
@raydelmartinez29054 жыл бұрын
Awesome lore, keep it up.
@LordSpleach4 жыл бұрын
The Eldrazi form of attack reminds me of Zeiram.
@supercannonball12364 жыл бұрын
Return of the King
@titankiller92504 жыл бұрын
What happened to the whole part where sorin goes to zendikar alone to stop the eldrazi from escaping. And sorin teams up with nissa to solve the problem until she betrays him and frees the eldrazi. Then he dips to safe guard innistrad
@DerekScottBland4 жыл бұрын
Bolas' motivations are exceptionally stupid for a being of his supposed intelligence. "OK, these Eldrazi could challenge even me if they got loose. So I'm going to arrange for them to get loose, and for these heroes to fight them to see if the heroes are capable of fighting me." So..... if the Eldrazi win, Bolas has already conceded that they're more powerful than him, and now they're loose. If the heroes win, they're more powerful than the Eldrazi that Bolas has already said would be a challenge.
@jesok37614 жыл бұрын
What about Yarok?
@luckyadrian1003 жыл бұрын
Some of these illustration made by my fav illustrator
@hipsterimagestudios63494 жыл бұрын
Are the books any good?
@WarforgedCanuck4 жыл бұрын
Ob's spark was suppressed when a hedron was forced into his head.
@darklightmagus12224 жыл бұрын
You got part of the lore incorrect. Sorin knew very well that Nahiri couldn't light the signal because he trapped her inside the Hellvault. Sorin was only confused as to why Ugin didn't signal and why Ugin never came to Zendikar.
@darklightmagus12224 жыл бұрын
And you also skipped over the part about Ob Nixilis getting confronted by Nahiri after he damaged his spark. Nahiri then stuck a Hedron on his forehead to seal more of the remainder of his power. In "Duels of the Planeswalkers" we find out Jace was the one who defeats Ob Nixilis. Jace then removes the hedron from Ob Nixilis' forehead believing Ob Nixilis was dead.
@Kahadi4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing regarding Nahiri being in the Helvault. But at the same time, I'm a little confused there still. I know she was sealed in the Helvault alongside Avacyn and Griselbrand. But wasn't the Helvault destroyed, freeing them, in the first Innistrad block? Thus the return to it, where Avacyn had been corrupted. And when it was destroyed, Nahiri was set free and attacked Sorin for everything he had done, but he managed to hold her off. But she had also been corrupted. Something like that, details are fuzzy to me. My confusion lies more in the timing of that. I could have sworn Nahiri being released was before Sorin visited Ugin, before Sarkhan Vol brought dragons back to Tarkir, before the Eldrazi were released, in which case it brings back the question of why she didn't join the fight to save Zendikar. Or am I wrong and her release, the destruction of the Helvault, happened after or even during the Gatewatch's fight to save Zendikar?
@darklightmagus12224 жыл бұрын
The timeline is Zendikar - Worldwake - Rise of the Eldrazi - Innistrad - Dark Ascension - Avacyn Restored - Battle for Zendikar - Oath of the Gatewatch - Shadows Over Innistrad - Eldritch Moon. Zendikar - Jace, Chandra, and Sarkhan Vol inadvertently unlock the seal for the Eldrazi. Worldwake - Nissa and Sorin travel to the Eye of Ugin. Nissa betrays Sorin in the intent. Instead of redoing the seal, Nissa completely undoes it hoping the Eldrazi escape Zendikar, the world that held them hostage for so long. Rise of the Eldrazi - Gideon fights the Eldrazi. He figures out he can't fight them alone and leaves to recruit other Planeswalkers. Innistrad - Not much happens in story. It just introduces us to how things work in Innistrad but we do find out Avacyn is missing and that the moon has great effect over the denizens of Innistrad. Dark Ascension - Sorin comes back to Innistrad to find that his angel, Avacyn, has gone missing. The power balance has shifted and humans are getting overrun. The city gates have fallen. Cities are getting breached. Avacyn Restored - Liliana uses an ultimatum black spell to destroy the Hellvault (look at her ability for the set). Nahiri, Avacyn and Griselbrand are released. Liliana kills Griselbrand in a surprise preemptive strike. Battle for Zendikar - Nahiri returns to find the Eldrazi have devastated her home world and forsakes it believing it is beyond saving. Ugin gives Jace advice on how to stop the Eldrazi. Oath of the Gatewatch - The Gatewatch alongside Kiora defeat Kozilek and Ulamog. Shadows Over Innistrad - Nahiri created a beacon to attract the Eldrazi to Innistrad. Emrakul encroaches upon the plane corrupting Avacyn and Jace. Liliana takes Jace to Tamiyo who "repairs" his mind. Eldritch Moon - Nahiri defeats Sorin and traps him. She leaves him to watch helplessly trapped and unable to stop the devastation of his world the way he did to her. The Gatewatch with the help of Tamiyo manage to seal Emrakul inside of Innistrad's Moon.
@Vidious8084 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the same thing!
@voralek4 жыл бұрын
yeeeah!! great video
@garmatey38164 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand. You said ugin told Jace they need to trap them and not kill them but then said Chandra just burned the crap out of kozilek and ulamog and killed them. What did I miss?
@timschowalter63084 жыл бұрын
If I understood correctly, Jace decided to disobey Ugin and kill the eldrazi so they would never have to worry about them again.
@garmatey38164 жыл бұрын
Tim Schowalter ah thanks. Dammit Jace...
@hilossrt43 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the part where Sorin locked Nahiri in the helvault
@duditsgrey51484 жыл бұрын
Eldrazi are the coolest thing. I wish they would bring them back
@hahano42814 жыл бұрын
I miss the eldrazi already
@markhohnke28014 жыл бұрын
No. *Points finger like a stern parent* You go get back in your moon!
@VerrouSuo4 жыл бұрын
these days i constantly find myself saying “the MTG story isn’t that bad, actually. there are some really cool parts...” **AND THEN BOLAS APPEARED** “...never mind.”
@corhydrae32384 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of why I hate the stupid lizard. I mean, what did he think when he planned for the release of the eldrazi? The motivation stated felt like they pulled that out of their asses to drive the plot forward. Nicol Bolas has no actual motivations or personality except for being an amalgamation of every villain-cliché.
@giganoverlord15184 жыл бұрын
Who said the eldrazi are dead for all we know they could still be alive.
@moritzk.60556 ай бұрын
awesome!
@DStrormer4 жыл бұрын
Yay. More Zendikar. Woo. -_- Thanks for the lore drive, it was great. Just so tired of this plane.
@plaguemarine77674 жыл бұрын
More kamigawa. Aka more ninjaaaas
@pkphantom4 жыл бұрын
Sooo Nihiri is after Sorin's head because his emergency eldrazi solution blocked her call for help...and now they want each other dead...? *WHAT THE HELL?!* They're trying to kill each other over a damn *MISUNDERSTANDING?!*
@tristanmabbitt98284 жыл бұрын
If I understand correctly, it was a couple misunderstandings, Sorin was a bit of a dick about it, and then Nahiri called Emrakul to Innistrad, and it escalated from there.
@TheArcSet4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. video.
@elephoontoftheshanpes81034 жыл бұрын
missed you
@FioreCiliegia4 жыл бұрын
Yay a noob guide for a noob! Glad you’re good and it’s not health related! I don’t even play the game, it’s just a cool story.
@DragonspineInfiniteZero4 жыл бұрын
Thank you now if the next zendikar fat pack doesnt have a guide i can count on you to fill me in
@dantecasalla31744 жыл бұрын
you are talking about lore, right?
@DragonspineInfiniteZero4 жыл бұрын
dante casalla yea I get most of my lore from word of mouth or the guides from fat packs
@smolbrain6713 Жыл бұрын
didn’t Ob become a demon when his spark ignited and he sold out his home plane to its demons?
@luffyzero134 жыл бұрын
Holy crap the amount of ADs i got during this vid was longer then the video itself
@AetherHub4 жыл бұрын
People have said this before but I just used the normal YT mid ad break algorithm. How many ads did you get?
@Cognitivestress4 жыл бұрын
Ad blockers are amazing
@rowiin81074 жыл бұрын
How are the Eldrazi able to be trapped when their physical manifestations are just avatars? They exist as beings of mana essence, can't they just create a new avatar?
@corekidfrom97004 жыл бұрын
You can take the analogy of Ugin, when the man (one of the titan) put his hand in the pond (its avatar), the fish can bite them and trap their hand so the human can't remove his hand of the pond But you can also explain that by the rules of MTG, they're logic in the lore even if it can seem weird outside of the lore
@joeygallagher63054 жыл бұрын
Thank God ! Hahahaha we thought we lost you ! Hahahaha
@isostat164 жыл бұрын
Kinda disappointed that you left out everyone's favorite blobby elemental, Omnom.
@mononokemar4 жыл бұрын
Sorin did encounter Nahiri though....and Nissa only destroys it because she thinks Sorin will betray her....
@CoconutSphinx4 жыл бұрын
Nissa's reasoning was more about thinking that setting the Titans free would mean they'd just leave Zendikar behind after having being trapped in it for so long. Her distrust for Sorin's reinforcement was that Zendikar would still have to deal with the side effects of keeping the Titans in it.
@Nylon-xj9ml4 жыл бұрын
Oh hello there!
@Alkhemia84 жыл бұрын
the fact that they blew them up is still the 2nd worst thing wizards has done to magic lore after like all of the war of the spark it still makes no sense.
@pairot014 жыл бұрын
If you think war of the spark lore is bad then I advice not to look at the planeswalkers' design