There Are Too Many Bad Nikola Jokic Takes…

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[@srivatsavyaddanapudi7772]

Thank you Kenny. Nuggets fans have endured this for the past 2 szns and we still don't understand why ppl do it

[@darnellwilliams8783]

Srivatsav Yadddanapudi I hate to tell everybody the truth but Jokic didn't Deserve any of his MVPs he only won them becuae of the media dislikes Embiid that's why the media shouldn't vote MVP jokic is slow and the worst MVP since Steve Nash won over Kobe Bryant Twice jokic is not athletic nor fast

[@durkdaperk4297]

@@darnellwilliams8783 goes to show you don’t watch basketball 😂😂 if anything the Media doesn’t like Jokic, compared to Embiid. Watch some basketball gain some knowledge about it, then come back and see if you still feel that way lmfao

[@darnellwilliams8783]

@@durkdaperk4297 sorry that the truth hurts but Jokic is the worst Statistical MVP Winner since Steve nash

[@strangeofdesert4032]

@@darnellwilliams8783 the media don't like Embiid? lmao the media was the only reason last season that made the MVP race close for Embiid, even Giannis at some point had surpassed Embiid in the MVP race, even Luka was playing better and had more impact with a worse team than Embiid.

[@gunnartherunner4395]

@@darnellwilliams8783 wrong technically the worst statistical mvp since nash was steph curry with 24, 4, and 8, Jokic had a 26, 11, and 8, and a 27, 14, and 8 season with the highest PER recorded

[@archle1169]

Warriors fan here: playing against Jokic (even though his series against the warriors wasn’t his best) was super impressive. He was clearly the best player in that series, but just had nobody to help. He won ONE less game against the warriors than the Celtics, and his second best player was Will Barton.

[@terrancevanliew1814]

Not sure what you mean by "wasn't his best" he played great.

[@aaronlevin4037]

good take tbh👍

[@Murphyj102]

He was the best player on the court that series by every stat and eye test imaginable

[@archle1169]

@@terrancevanliew1814 Only that I think hes capable of being even better.

[@juniorbeastyt]

Nah he deserves it because when was the last time an MVP lost in the first round and nobody was making the excuse about his team in the regular season soo and if another player like Steph was to win and lose in the first round … he would get roasted all day so keep the same energy

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

After seeing my team go against Jokic, Morant, Doncic and Tatum in the playoffs, the most dangerous guy and the dude that gave me so much anxiety every single possession was Jokic. The dude is right there with Giannis as the 2 unstoppable forces of nature in the NBA

[@micahkiyimba8641]

I feared Luka more than Joker though

[@mylonevibe]

jokic does it with such ease too. softest touch around the rim

[@BigPurp9]

Jokic is crazy cos he does it in the most unorthodox non flashy way that you don’t even notice, then you look at the stats and he’s got 26/13/8 🤣

[@wyattcarney4393]

morant 4 me

[@OscarUnrated]

Dude won one game come on

[@drmarshmellow6565]

As a Nuggets fan, I’ve been hating the disrespect on Jokic for the entire year. Thanks for the upload

[@thisuserdoesnotexist478]

same, but it felt so good to see sixer fans crying over the mvp selection

[@arjunvivekraj8758]

@@thisuserdoesnotexist478 Joel stans are actually stupid.

[@darnellwilliams8783]

@@thisuserdoesnotexist478 Jokic only won MVP because the media dislikes Embiid .jokic is nash and Embiid is Kobe so dont be a casual sports viewer

[@drmarshmellow6565]

@@darnellwilliams8783 bro Jokic put up better stats then Embiid and led in EVERY single advanced stat. And you’re stacking it up to the media not liking Embiid.

[@lathenthomas2422]

@@drmarshmellow6565 the only argument philly fans got is the eye test

[@codynardone8772]

God I love this man. Such tempered, measured analysis. No hot takes, just pure enjoyment of basketball. The GOAT

[@Ty-L15]

da bro. became a fan today

[@wunderkid8749]

Jokic is a generational player in his position. His fundementals and his IQ are off the charts. He is truly amazing. I am fortunate to see him play. Giannis and him are showing the path to all the international players who want to play in the NBA.

[@vanessaamesty6739]

He is the evolution of the center and is changing the NBA. No one wanted to be a center because they always disregart as low IQ, low Shooting % etc.

[@Dick-Cheese-4]

Dirk nowitzky and manu ginobily set the path for internationals players before gianis and jakic

[@wunderkid8749]

@@Dick-Cheese-4 i am talking right now. They are (Giannis and Jokic) b2b MVPs. We have never seen two international playees get the trophy 4 years in the raw. It is a crazy achievement. Ofc Dirk, Manu, Tony, Pau and even Sabonis were great.

[@jacoblarkin267]

@@wunderkid8749 embiid?

[@wunderkid8749]

@@jacoblarkin267 Embiid is great also. He played amazing the last 2 years.

[@nicolascaraballo1534]

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! It gets me so worked up seeing people still disrespecting Jokic talking about “oh this your mvp? Losing round one?” First of all, MVP is regular season, second of all, his numbers were improved from the regular season, thirdly he had no help at all, and finally the warriors went on to win the whole thing! How tf are people using that to knock him

[@eamonhogan2635]

@Raytheslay second round pick 41 turned into a back to back MVP, safe to say Jokic is the greatest diamond in the rough draft pick of all time

[@jonaalstern3899]

I’m takin ad her jokic in the playoffs anyway.. he dominated jokic when they played in a series

[@mikec2903]

@@jonaalstern3899 no he didnt lmao, if it wasnt for a lucky game winning 3 from AD nuggets wouldve won that series go back and check that series b4 u try and disrespect jokic

[@jonaalstern3899]

@@mikec2903 why u acting like that game winning 3 was for the series 😂😂 it was game 2 and go look at the stats Jamal Murray was carrying.. ad dominated him strictly off his being more physical and his lateral movement

[@Soosss]

@@jonaalstern3899 bro the bubble was almost 3 seasons ago at this point, y’all need to move past it

[@dylannuggetsfan]

As a nuggets fan I really appreciate you posting this. He’s been so disrespected for years

[@ogi618]

@Raytheslay troll

[@racimegacar]

At the end of his career they will eat they words

[@samuelmason2703]

He's a total headcase with his super short temper, what he did to Morris was straight-up assault, and his suspension after what the did to Cam Payne was totally justified. I think he's too easily rattled to the point where it's irresponsible and reckless, and I'm not a fan until he fixes that. Great player, bad dude. And I feel like he gets much more of a pass on being a dangerous menace because he's white, to be completely honest. (I say all this as a white guy who has gone to a lot of therapy)

[@dylannuggetsfan]

@@samuelmason2703 the cam Payne one was a little over board and I agree with that but his emotions got the better of him in an intense playoff series however the Morris one was a retaliation from Morris hitting him first and almost taken him out. Morris gave him a cheap shot so Jokic was like I ain’t going to take that and did it back

[@zero-ui1ul]

@@samuelmason2703 it literally has nothing to do with race at all look at giannis look at embiid they retaliate to things as well. When you’re such a impactful player and half the time you’re essentially carrying the team frustration can get the better so I don’t blame him even though sometimes unwarranted

[@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449]

No one can judge Jokic for getting put out the playoffs when his team has been injured for the past two years. His accomplishments in the regular season are undeniable. Best center in the league for at least the past 2 years.

[@Tonio5100]

Replace Jokic name with KD name and your statement is still true so WHY is it ok to bash KD for the SAME THING you want people to stop bashing Jokic for? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@remikpawlowski]

@@Tonio5100 kd been injured and not played as good as jokic the past 2 years and kd got swept this year too, having one of his worst playoffs ever that’s why

[@juniorbeastyt]

Nah he deserves it because when was the last time an MVP lost in the first round and nobody was making the excuse about his team in the regular season soo and if another player like Steph was to win and lose in the first round … he would get roasted all day so keep the same energy

[@juniorbeastyt]

@@Tonio5100 facts

[@bogdanjankovic1453]

@@juniorbeastyt Westbrook,Dirk being 1st seed and losing

[@adam17]

Hearing these takes make me wonder if they even watch nuggets games. I'm not even a nugs fan and I can tell Jokic is something special. Always in control of the game. Maybe because he has a unique style in doing it, they don't fully comprehend what's happening lol. But Jokic fully deserves those MVPs

[@angahbg9089]

They dont really understands that when Jokic hold the ball.. He is basically controlling the whole court movement. And when defending Jokic. You dont even know he wanna pass or wanna score

[@Skadongle]

He gets bullied on defense he isnt even close to Giannis’ level

[@julianlannoy808]

@@Skadongle Bullied on D? By whom and when exactly? No one can back him down and he led the league in deflections per game+ top 10 in steals. Nice try tho

[@notyouraverage10k95]

@@julianlannoy808 💯

[@khanager2814]

Taking Booker over Jokic, holy shit that is one of the most clown takes I have ever heard hahahahaha

[@ericmyerss3586]

"worst back to back mvp" is the craziest take ive heard considering steve nash, not hating on him, just isnt on jokic's level.

[@bregozy3330]

Neither should have been back to back

[@TOSH-vi6dr]

@@bregozy3330 yea they both should have been Jokic has had some of the best seasons by a center ever and Steve nash was playing on a different level. Im sure you think kobe should have gotten one of nashs mvps and thats just stupid

[@luvanton5731]

Giannis had better season than jokic hes really just overrated there so many players errbody would take over him tatum lillard etc and of course players that are on the higher tier curry giannis kd ad lebron etc

[@ClemintineCake]

@@luvanton5731 AD🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WidgetWagyu47292]

@@luvanton5731 But the statistics say otherwise 😂

[@truittfowler8728]

This has aged beautifully for you. Jokic is on a legit all time run, beating future star in Anthony Edwards in 5, beating DBook and KD who were the favorites for the title in just 6, sweeping the Lebron and AD lakers, all while averaging 30 13 & 10 and shooting 47% from 3

[@Klocks420]

THANK YOU KENNY. I remember Stephen A Smith saying he’d take healthy AD over Jokic and Luka and I was like “okay, this sh*t has to stop….”

[@luvanton5731]

But thats just fax tho?

[@Klocks420]

@@luvanton5731 It isn't. AD as a #1 didn't do anything. Jokic and Luka took their teams to the WCF.

[@4channinjadagoat14]

@@luvanton5731 hell no. I'd take luka or jokic any day dont get me wrong ad was a beast when he was healthy and I know this arguement is about when hes healthy but you can never catch this man healthy

[@dansheshe8039]

Thats not a bad take

[@Klocks420]

@@dansheshe8039 You're right. It's a horrendous one

[@Jac0b22]

Need more of these on occasion. When you really break down some of the shit these people that talk in front of audiences say it doesn’t always add up especially when they have clear bias or deep down know they’re reaching. Sometimes he not even purposely argued his own take

[@whaleking6445]

jokic is overrated asf. kyrie is better

[@Byronic19134]

Thats why nobody watches these big shows anymore because they are just...trash.

[@thesorham03]

Uh first off I agree and the other two comments 1st ones a troll and the second one is either a Lakers or nets fan that does not actually watch basketball

[@BarshBananagan]

This is even more perfect after he won his ring

[@fiftyburger]

Thank you for this video Kenny. People keep talking about Jokic like he's just some guy. It's crazy.

[@daan8702]

He is not some guy but he shouldn’t have won mvp

[@willbarnhart8833]

@@daan8702 you’re delusional

[@TJ_Reactz]

@@daan8702 how? He literally had the best PER in nba history had better stats than embiid took a team of Aaron Gordon and will Barton to a 6 seed

[@juniorbeastyt]

Nah he deserves it because when was the last time an MVP lost in the first round and nobody was making the excuse about his team in the regular season soo and if another player like Steph was to win and lose in the first round … he would get roasted all day so keep the same energy

[@bogdanjankovic1453]

@@juniorbeastyt His 2nd best player in the playoffs was Monte Morris who was traded this offseason. Thats how good his teammates were.

[@chadkelly1161]

As a bucks fan I hate to see a two time MVP getting disrespected, but Jokic isn't the first player to be in this exact situation. Giannis was so disrespected until he won his chip. Jokic must do the same to get the respect he deserves.

[@bdimess]

next szn 🤫

[@PhoenixTeamMG]

&, a Bucks/Nuggets final. 🤔

[@robertbloom4424]

@@PhoenixTeamMG A Bucks/Nuggets Finals would be sensational to watch and great for the league.

[@PaulGubalane]

@@PhoenixTeamMG Nuggets vs Sixers will break the internet for sure though

[@ishyameru6232]

@@bdimess As an OKC fan I hope so. J Murray is one of my favorite players in the league man hes SO fucking underrated

[@rithvikganti6252]

Kenny this the only thing keeping me going through a rough study session rn

[@user-zu5bf5nc4i]

FR BRO SM HMWK

[@User45x92]

Rithvik, Sit down… smoke a joint. Put on some smooth jazz, and turn off KZbin. Focus and learn your study booo inside and out. I believe in you king

[@deepavasudevan1761]

good luck bro, you got this 😤

[@KleinpeterHank]

Nikola Jokic is having a top 2-3 offensive peak by a center and one of the 10-12 best offensive peaks ever by any player imo. The dude is a magician, once in a generation talent. Also, THANK YOU for mentioning at 14:58. People need to look at who guys lost to not just when they got eliminated.

[@jasonmassouh1128]

Good to have you back Kenny, much love for the commitment

[@whaleking6445]

jokic is overrated asf. kyrie is better

[@hamoiq908]

@Raytheslay why are you such a spammer?

[@hamoiq908]

@@whaleking6445 why are you such a spammer?

[@TheOGHoopByTheBook]

Thank You KB this is absolutely facts ive never seen someone so absurdly disrespected because they’re not flashy/“entertaining”

[@joshnarey2701]

I’m a nuggets fan and Jokic literally everytime he plays amazes me with what he does, the fact the nuggets made it to the WCF with both players healthy and we beat a healthy Blazers team with Campazzo and Austin Rivers in our back court in the playoffs last year just shows how amazing Jokic is. Jokic deserves so much more respect then he gets and it sucks to see people hate on him like this because he’s from my perspective and I am bias for being a nuggets fan, but the most unique and talented player I’ve ever seen

[@PurpleGASM]

Happens with Giannis aswell, its called xenophobia. I remember SAS replying "So" when confronted with gannis' game 6 50 piece. LOL

[@mhhmmhhm3301]

idk if you into baseball but SAS did the same thing with Shohei Ohtani when he was becoming a star in the MLB by saying "the best player in baseball cant have a translator", it truly is weird

[@smime5672]

It’s not xenophobia it’s just a bad take. It happens to all players.

[@ClemintineCake]

@@mhhmmhhm3301 wow wtf is that really a quote? That's gross asf.

[@ClemintineCake]

@@mhhmmhhm3301 of course it was Steven A SMH

[@ThaTruth223]

lmfao so what about all the non foreign players ? Lebron/Steph/Harden/Russ who gets worse slander and has gotten it for longer ? y’all cling onto that b.s narrative that the media hates foreign players

[@slompywompus7966]

This whole clip is an example of why no one takes nba analysts seriously

[@traviskrueger9531]

This guy isn’t an analyst though. Literally all he’s doing is making hot takes for clicks. If he were an analyst he would either have some comprehension of statistics or a deep background in the game. This guys is a MTV product, that says everything you need to know.

[@bencargill4479]

To get Denver to the 6th seed with a very sub par team is incredible he dominates a lot of the advanced stats.not getting past the first round without his 2 best teammates against golden state is nothing to judge him on

[@Sigma4k_]

Love to see kenny get so passionate about a player, especially one that isnt a bull/former bull.

[@introvertedmadness]

kenny im so glad you reacted to this vid, when i saw this guy pop up talking RECKLESS about jokic i was like oh nah

[@thomaspella5776]

Man I’m like the definition of a casual when it comes to the NBA… I watched the warriors vs Nuggets and imo Jokic was the best player on the court and cheering for the warriors it had me worried that they could lose when Jokic was on the court… the dude is unreal and stood out to me

[@juniorbeastyt]

Nah he deserves it because when was the last time an MVP lost in the first round and nobody was making the excuse about his team in the regular season soo and if another player like Steph was to win and lose in the first round … he would get roasted all day so keep the same energy

[@jahcode6132]

@@juniorbeastyt literally 5 years ago (russell westbrook) and nobody cared because "he averaged a triple double". lmao.

[@micahkiyimba8641]

Bro. Joker is not better than Curry and has never been. Being the only guy on a team and putting up numbers doesn't make you better than an all time great

[@radicalfamily]

@@micahkiyimba8641 All time, it's not close, but right now, Jokic might be better. Steph did amazing but the reality is, he's not as good as in his prime, despite the fact that he's still amazing.

[@thomaspella5776]

@@micahkiyimba8641 never said he is a better player… I said he was a better player in the couple games I watched… there’s a difference

[@Sasoridellasabbia]

Thank you Kenny. There are so many people that don't watch basketball and talk about basketball. Kenny thank you for saving my ears.

[@razoo911]

this video aged so well

[@josephdurgan7030]

This was a solid video. Giving respect where it's deserved, and commenting on where you disagreed without going overboard. I wish more discourse was like this.

[@LSSJ_Rose]

This is basically history repeating itself with the Steve Nash MVPS 16 years ago

[@SS-tz3qd]

Video aged like fine wine

[@ddawg2396]

The C’s take last year and this one this year. My guy knows ball.

[@riyaad7419]

As a Nuggets fan, thank you for this Kenny ♥️ These morons love hating on European players for some reason

[@finjupp8498]

Mate, I couldn't stop nodding my head at everything you said. Nice work :D

[@noname4god]

Bit of common sense in today’s polarized “take” world is so refreshing! Measured and nuanced! Please keep it up

[@seti3bb]

Of all the trades happening this off season I saw nobody talk about the moves the Nuggets made. I think we’re gonna be dangerous this year

[@QualitySnipz]

i needed this kenny for real video so badly

[@theepoetrygod]

I would love for this to become a recurring series of sorts. There’s been more than a few videos about whether loyalty in the NBA is a curse for players like Dame and Bradley Beal as opposed to ring chasing that I’d love to hear your opinions on.

[@rocketmonkeyxx9996]

great video, love to see more content like this during the dry spells of the off season

[@jeffreyfitch9090]

Karl Malone was mvp twice. I love Karl Malone, but no one has ever described him as an athletic freak. He was a big beefy bruiser who hit a lot of midrange shots and... had John Stockton on his team. Jokic is like taking Karl Malone and John Stockton and putting them into the same package. He certainly is better than Nash, he is better than Dirk when Dirk won MVP, his numbers are way better than 2015 Curry when Curry won. His numbers are similar to every version of LeBron that won the MVP. The difference is he looks so ordinary that he doesn't fit into the flashy style that people want from an MVP. He is more comparable to Tim Duncan than anyone else but a far better shooter and facilitator. Blocks are great, they make highlight reels, but that isn't the only thing that matters. Embiid is a more athletic and physically gifted player but, as far as understanding the game... Jokic. Also Jokic takes 6 less shots and 5 less free throws per game because he is getting his teammates involved. Also, comparing him to Jimmy Butler is hilarious. The gap in PER between Jokic at 1 and Butler at 9th is bigger than the gap between Butler at 9th and DeAndre Ayton... at 35th.

[@jaxsonbateman]

On the Russ winning MVP comment - I had a look at the MVP winners since the 09-10 season, and there were only two players who won while not having the highest WS/48 (win share over 48 minutes). Russ, and Derrick Rose. In the Rose season, LeBron was looking at his third straight MVP and was the highest WS/48 - so you'd argue that Rose won due to voter fatigue. In the Russ season, Durant was the clear standout in many categories, including WS/48. But that was the season he first joined the Warriors, so between a combination of people hating him for it (and appreciating what Russ was doing with the OKC as the last man standing there), and Steph sometimes distracting from how good KD's season was, Russ won that one. Basically, Russ winning an MVP but getting knocked out in 5 is not a good counter-argument for Jokic being amazing, because Jokic was the legitimate best player over the season in the 2 years that he won his, whereas Russ won his largely due to factors outside the raw game. And as a fun fact, Jokic has a huge lead in WS/48 this season. If he doesn't win, it'll likely be due to voter fatigue. Embiid is doing pretty well in WS and WS/48, so I imagine he'll win if Jokic doesn't get given it.

[@kameronjackson9626]

That take when he said Russell Westbrook won a mvp and lost in 5 games in the first round just irked me and idk why😂

[@MikeyMike0330]

Kenny the definition of clutch fr I needed something to watch

[@JDNoble]

Kenny vs. Take Integrity! I love it!! Please do more of these! This could be a whole series!

[@jamespratt529]

Great video Kenny, you’re actually really good at this type of thing. I enjoyed this a lot

[@TysonIke]

3:58 you could take everyone off that list and add Robert Horry, Allen Leavell, Udanis Haslem, Pippen, DJ Mengba, David Robinson, Michael Cooper, and Andre Igudala. 8 players 41/43

[@kaii0162]

But they are no the best players on their team? A team led by Iggy doesn’t make the finalsn

[@bigdubs9998]

I’m down for videos like this. Love hearing you talk hoops man. Also welcome back!

[@TheMissiIe]

Jokic is a HISTORIC player, he is the embodiment of what real "basketball" is.

[@Saiiint27]

thats actually hilarious lol. the guy who got pulled out because his defense was so bad, with the season on the line is the “embodiment” of basketball ??! 💀 jokic fans are truly delusional

[@ThaTruth223]

this is why y’all be getting flamed, “the embodiment of what real basketball is” what the hell is “real basketball”

[@kylehowe6761]

@@ThaTruth223 not shooting half court threes flashy dunks and flopping all over clown like your favorite player probably does

[@ThaTruth223]

@@kylehowe6761 so players with great range and athleticism are “real players?” ? matter of fact who are you to say what’s real and what’s not. pretentious basketball “fan”. wipe your mouth off next time m, goof

[@thegoat4617]

What is "real basketball".

[@squidfather]

I love this format of reacting to clips of other takes.

[@Username92381]

7:18 fam Our boy gives me something different, nice to feel. Personally, I (who is from Serbia 🇷🇸 ) follows Kenny for 2 years already 🖊 Even before he started these multiple channels thing, I just wanna say this man is from Chicago where's around 100,000 to 250,000 Serbian people (according to Google) hopefully someone give him respect as I do.

[@vvkth2500]

That Portland argument is literally non existent. When he lost in G7 it was his first Playoff run, and he was arguably the best performer in the first two rounds. Also, last year, he ended the Blazers WITHOUT half of his team. What the hell is that guy preaching?

[@BuckshotM]

Kenny, my man, I couldn’t agree with you more on every single level. I’m not gonna get into everything I agree and disagree with from the clips you played cause I’d be writing a novel but I’m just going to end it with this and this is obviously my personal feeling and an opinion but the Joker is a straight up hooper. He is possibly the most unappreciated and under valued superstar the league has ever seen. I get it, he’s slow, can’t jump, awkward and unorthodox, however, as I said before, dude is a straight up hooper. Yeah, he doesn’t do the flashy things with the style of other greats but dude is the quintessential NBA player.

[@LeviAntics]

Him and Tatum are so alike with the way their teams use them they both have such high usage rates but they’re both still on really good teams when healthy

[@silentdevilgaming]

This is why Kenny is really one of two basketball channels I listen to (no dunks). He has rational takes and backs up his takes with facts

[@donovanpitts6907]

Him and Jxmmy are it to be honest.

[@maxwellscialabba4687]

I think now is the kind of make it or break it moment for Jokić’s legacy (top 50 vs. top 15, etc.). He’s put up ungodly numbers in the last two years, but injuries have prevented his team from winning. We always judge players based on how well they perform on championship caliber teams, so next season he’ll have the chance to end the debate on his greatness.

[@truthhurts837]

Let’s pretend that the Joker and Luka are as slow and unathletic as the racists haters say. Are you admitting that their IQ must be sooo much higher than the idiots who can’t figure out what to do with their athletic bodies? Are you saying that they out work the athletes that much to become so much more skilled?? All I gotta say is 2,000 pts, 1,000 rbs, 500 asts. One man has done that. EVER. The double MVP does what the F he wants!!!!

[@minocah1919]

I agree with the pronunciation part but I have one thing I want to add. Players like Giannis or Jokic being amazing shouldn't be the reason we pronounce their names correctly. We should say it properly because it is a respectful thing to do to human beings. Even players like Sandro Mamukelashvili deserve to have their names pronounced correctly

[@ClemintineCake]

Great video today, you know you really riled up Kenny when he starts pulling up receipts like Salary cap.

[@hunterhottman4905]

Jokic is an interesting case dude is so good he can get tripled team and he still gonna drop 30 but his defense is a liability but he can easily be a number one on a team.

[@HiHi-on5gs]

He isn’t even as big of a liability on defense anymore he jus gets killed in the pick n roll but his post defense n shot blockin has improved

[@cartersteele]

He actually has the second best defensive rating in the league according to 538s raptor ratings

[@yunan9610]

@@HiHi-on5gs yea, and most centers in the league gets killed on the pick and roll anyway, or when they got switched on quick guards

[@ClemintineCake]

@@yunan9610 not even nowadays shaq and Kobe almost lost a couple WCF to Shaq getting cooked in the PNR

[@ThaTruth223]

@@cartersteele lmfao 😭😭😭

[@darrengordon-hill]

4:15 AS I WAS ABOUT TO TYPE THIS!! "Kawhi (2x FMVP if not mistaken)/KD/Giannis can't be the best player on a championship team as he isn't on THIS list" KL should arguably be on this list for SA/Toronto

[@rian8476]

Jokic will go down as Top 20 ALL TIME.

[@User45x92]

Well obviously… I

[@favordave]

Not sure if it's what he was trying to say, but it does make sense to say that if we agree that you can't take away a team's accomplishment because of injury on the opposing team (which I do agree,) you also can't use it as an excuse of why you lost. Either injuries are consider external factors or they are part of the game. You can't say they are part of the game when you win, and external factors when you lose.

[@ricek.l9973]

Honestly I'd love to see more content like this, this was very enjoyable to listen to

[@dare-rioussmith4569]

I love these types if videos do more plz

[@TheAdidasKnifer]

Always a good day when kenny uploads a new video

[@spencerclason7558]

Facts

[@brayanpalma8773]

Thank you for bringing light to the hate. I don’t understand why Jokic is criticized negatively. I love hood style of play

[@neelkumar9839]

I agree with most of this video except around 16:20. The difference between warriors-nuggets and bucks-celtics was that the bucks took the celtics to 7 and were up in the series multiple times. Yes, they had jrue Holiday, and jokic didn't have MPJ, but the warriors felt so comfortable with jokic that they brought back steph from the bench

[@frostyjay1249]

Steph only came off the bench twice. Because of injuries. Do you really think that series goes to 7 without jrue?

[@KyleLowryRaptorsGOAT]

I swear, Jokic is one of the most, if not the most hated MVP of all time and it is not fair. Coming from a Raptors fan

[@bookaufman9643]

even though Nicola jokic had an amazing all-time great kind of season last year everybody who had a vote was trying to give it to anyone else but him. There was a time where it was lebron, giannis, KD and anyone else who was playing well and had a pulse. As they all dropped off the list because of missed games there were writers who were almost forced to vote for the guy that should have won it no matter how much anybody else played .Please believe me that I'm not the kind of guy who normally says anything like this but I think the hatred towards Nicola Jokic has got a bit of reverse racism tied up in it. It's also got that old school, new school thing going on because the old school doesn't want to look at any of the advance numbers that show that Jokic is an all-time great when it comes to the impact he makes for his team when he's on the floor. Back in the day there were a lot of guys who couldn't believe that Larry Bird was really as good as people said he was and a lot of that had to do with him being a country white boy. This is the first time I've mentioned race in any way in a long time so I am not wanting to get into this stuff for no reason. The dude is just flat out amazing and has passing skills that we've only seen in big guys like Bill Walton. It's always amazing to be able to watch a player who's in his prime and getting better every season.

[@Luka-st4uf]

I think it's much more of him being a foreigner, who doesn't play flashy and can't dunk which is all the NBA media cares about. Look at how long it took the media to stop discrediting Giannis as the best player in the world and he's black but he came from Europe with African parents. Even African players like Siakam often get overlooked and underrated. On the other hand media loves Luka who's basically like a shorter Jokić but is more flashy and more of a character so they love him.

[@bookaufman9643]

@@Luka-st4uf being a foreigner is just another part of the picture. I do think that white basketball reporters sometimes have a subconscious fear of voting for a White Guy. There's no bad intentions there just people can't get past their own dumb ideas. If I'm wrong about that then that's fantastic because I I'm not into talking about this kind of crap. I just thought it was partially true.

[@truthhurts837]

Let’s pretend that the Joker and Luka are as slow and unathletic as the racists haters say. Are you admitting that their IQ must be sooo much higher than the idiots who can’t figure out what to do with their athletic bodies? Are you saying that they out work the athletes that much to become so much more skilled?? All I gotta say is 2,000 pts, 1,000 rbs, 500 asts. One man has done that. EVER. The double MVP does what the F he wants!!!!

[@bookaufman9643]

@@truthhurts837 I'm not saying anything like any of that. I'm saying that people have a natural inclination against the Euro players and sometimes believe that the white player gets more hype for doing the exact same thing that an African-American player would do. Sometimes that's actually true but it's not true in the case of Jokic. IQ has nothing to do with race and hustle has nothing to do with race. If you're saying any of that then please stop talking to me and go somewhere else and leave me alone if you're not trying to say that and you're trying to say that I'm saying some shit like that well then you're just flat out wrong. All men are equal and that includes women.

[@conner6943]

thank you Kenny putting respect on the goat I appreciate you man

[@ronathan7212]

God I really hate when people just say oh he lost in the first round so he didn’t deserve it. He put up amazing stats in that series, he just went up against a far superior opponent. It’s so strange how people don’t care how good an individual player performs and only look at win or loss. It’s like when people criticize Lebron for losing to the warriors in the finals when he was literally averaging 35 point triple doubles.

[@ukog6048]

This is why analysts are jokes in the nba😌

[@Faded42O]

THANK YOU KENNY 🙏🏼

[@splitzcruz4935]

kenny make my day better every time he uploads

[@glyle2504]

The guy who was on Colin Cowherd’s show and basically said he’s Carmelo Anthony was the last straw for me, I’m just completely dumbfounded.

[@ajwalker8804]

I and Nuggets fans alike have dealt with people underrating Jokic since 2019. I don’t understand why people can’t use context while evaluating numbers and stats. Saying Jokic isn’t the MVP because he lost in the first round to the eventual champs without his 2 best players honestly it isn’t even worth arguing

[@JacksonDreyer]

Great video bro

[@CMP_18]

Although I do believe Embiid should have won MVP. Jokic gets a ton of undeserving hate. Even though he wasn’t my MVP pick, I understand why he won. He had a great year.

[@dxfifa]

Embiid was not even on Jokic's level, that's the point, Embiid is amazing but the fact so many people act like it's neck a neck, it's not. Jokic has been better every season recently and elevates a team

[@CMP_18]

@@dxfifa this was the response I was expecting to get because we are on the internet, but just so you know. We are aloud to respect each others opinion and move on with our lives. Good day sir.

[@dxfifa]

@@CMP_18 Some people have a hard time accepting reality. This video is about bad Jokic takes, yours is an indirect one

[@CMP_18]

@@dxfifa 😂

[@jayclean5653]

Saying Jokic can't be the best player on a championship team while the 2004 Pistons having a ring makes that statement complete nonsense.

[@ijokesolo8260]

I'm a Raptors fan, but anyone throwing shade at Jokic getting the MVP doesn't have eyes... And don't know what advanced statistics are.

[@juniorbeastyt]

Nah he deserves it because when was the last time an MVP lost in the first round and nobody was making the excuse about his team in the regular season soo and if another player like Steph was to win and lose in the first round … he would get roasted all day so keep the same energy

[@ijokesolo8260]

@@juniorbeastyt Consistency aside, I think post season stuff shouldn't be a factor, in general.

[@irene7218]

Loved this video would love to see more similar to this style

[@vtxrenegade824]

Been saying this for years he puttin up insane numbers. Hot take: jokic will be top 25 all time. W or l

[@matthewsemenoff72]

Big L he’ll never win a chip

[@WriteWhatISee]

@@matthewsemenoff72 Dudes 27 I think he still has plenty of time.

[@kanathekid7814]

@@matthewsemenoff72 Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Allen Iversion, Karl Malone. They are all Top 25 players yet they never won a ring so?

[@dt-lg2oc]

He needs a defensive team so he can win nuggets are ass

[@Foxy-rs3gp]

@@dt-lg2oc we got exactly just that this off season

[@comettracerpl5529]

This type of videos from Kenny are what I need in life

[@pulledporkparkattendee1]

Not to mention that he still was able to lead his team without his two best teammates to a non-play-in playoff team. Imagine what he’s gon do when they get back 🤯

[@christianbaird8800]

Kenny watching film in the offseason. We love to see it 😂

[@cole1528]

Because He shouldn’t have won MVP back to back. Curry, Giannis, or Embiid should have one of those trophies 🤷‍♂️

[@philliphopkins6268]

Just found this channel, loved this video dude.

[@Raptor77.]

The funny thing is all the dudes on the list started being called all time greats after they won, I’m sure if you asked people in 2017 if Giannis was an all time great they’d tell you no .. same as jokic right now

[@todd-2362]

Thankyou for defending him. We appreciate it. Hell yeah.

[@henry7241]

It's important to note, though, that the injuries on his team were a major factor in him winning mvp this season

[@frostyjay1249]

Yes him carrying a heavily injured nuggets team to the playoffs by himself was a major reason.

[@aaronsung5523]

2004 Detroit pistons challenge Win a championship using only half of whatever team has the highest salary for that year. Also One of the players in your starting lineup has to be a player that you drafted (tayshaun prince for the pistons)

[@alexstanko5775]

Kenny, I feel like you just skipped over the fact that Giannis still took the series to 7 though, it always felt like the bucks had a chance to win that series vs it never felt like the nuggets had a chance vs gs.

[@srs2458]

The bucks still had from top to bottom a significantly better team than the nuggets. Yeah the bucks didn't have khris who is a massive piece to their team, but the nuggets second best player for the series against golden state was Will Barton who would be the 5th best player on that bucks team without khris.

[@Foxy-rs3gp]

If Giannis was in Jokic's shoes. He wouldn't have Khris nor Jrue.

[@dtmuffinman]

People just simply CANNOT wrap their heads around Jokic's greatness, because it simply doesn't LOOK like the greatness they've witnessed throughout history. He looks like he plays slow and lazily, it doesn't LOOK like dominant basketball even though it completely is in every way. He's not loud, he doesn't bring a lot of attention to himself. This causes them to look anywhere they can to twist different nothings into somethings to fit their preconceptions about him. He just goes out there and hoops, and he does it better than nearly anyone.

[@mchlwllsnd]

The Jokic disrespect is absurd. He’s easily the best player in the NBA, and yet no one thinks he is. Just throwing this out there, he had better defensive stats (especially advanced defensive stats) than Giannis did this season, who people say is the best defensive player in the NBA for some reason.

[@zackshewchuk8483]

I’m sorry but nobody takes Jokic over Giannis outside of Denver. It’s alright to be #2 at worst 3 ( if you have Steph up there )

[@sunshot9757]

@@zackshewchuk8483 jokic is better than giannis

[@TJ_Reactz]

But everyone can tell in the eye test Gianni’s is the better defender it’s about more than jus stats

[@willbarnhart8833]

@@sunshot9757 even as a Denver fan I think Giannis is slightly better when factoring both sides of the ball, I give jokic a slight edge offensively though

[@BrothaGoneBased]

Giannis is definitely better than jokic.... using "advanced defensive stats" to justify this is not good.

[@andygossard4293]

You can't win one playoff game a year and be taken seriously as a touted MVP. None of the other NBA players do. No matter what the media, the fake news, and the Denver locals think about it.

[@bregozy3330]

I have honestly seen a lot of Embiid disrespect he is more disrespected than jokic

[@viralserbia]

Kenny is the king, for real!! 👑 greetings from Belgrade!!

[@jakoreyaj]

Lmao Kenny over here talkin bout Jokic like Iggy didnt just say Giannas wouldn't be better than fucking Rasheed Wallace. If anybody getting disrespected its the 2 time MVP and Finals MVP champion. Not the dude that hasn't won anything besides a questionable MVP. The 1st 1 was deserved, the 2nd 1 was given to him. Giannas the best player in the league.

[@LoveEatingBricks]

Nikola literally literally just had one of the best individual seasons in league history, da fuck you talkin bout?

[@LoveEatingBricks]

Ofc Iguoadala's statement is on this "what you snorting" level, but I think at this point most everyone understands that Giannis is ridiculously good. Remarks like this are mostly just something to laugh at. Remember when Oakley said Giannis would be a bench warmer in the 90s and everyone clowned him for it?

[@jakoreyaj]

@@LoveEatingBricks lol don't stat me to death. Has he won? Yes or no. I think Jokic is amazing, but Joel Embiid had just as amazing a season is defensive a bit more reliable, so this whole narrative about him having a "historical statistical season" does nothing for me. Oakley sounded like a clown but every other month a few people come out and say some ignorant shir about Giannas, the narrative around Jokic for the most part is positive and because he hasn't had Murray, ppl just give him all the grace in the world.

[@LoveEatingBricks]

@@jakoreyaj Yeah, Embiid also had a historical season. But the voters decided Jokic's was a little bit better, a sentiment that I also happen to agree with. Although I will also say it was pretty much a toss-up

[@LoveEatingBricks]

What does winning a championship have to do with the MVP award?

[@GoatLee96]

Jokic needs to give 1 mvp to Kobe and 1 to shaq for their mvp snubs. Kobe and shaq should have at bare minimum 2 mvps each. The media just hates them and decided to vote for Nash