We Need To Have A Conversation About Giannis Antetokounmpo

[@UnholyChurchboy]

Giannis just had the greatest volume scoring season of all time and nobody cared. Yes giannis is underrated

[@yup7995]

and embiid was having the best offensive season of all time and no one cared, they just want to suck off jokic

[@JayL3wis]

Thank you!

[@ethanma3916]

30ppg on 60% is diabolical how did that go under the radar

[@yup7995]

@@ethanma3916 bc the bucks were underwhelming and it’s giannis essentially all his attempts are at the rim, not saying it’s not impressive but i’d expect giannis to be able to do that

[@vaqueroliquido7339]

@@yup7995 but that's the point, like, why has no one ever done it before if it's such a matter-of-fact thing?

[@jaredvalleskey9888]

Thank you for FINALLY giving him some attention! People hate for no reason and voter fatigue hit him hard. Getting the Lebron treatment at 29 years old

[@imranxalamin]

he's better than lebron though

[@itsgl00my88]

Cap​@@imranxalamin

[@Killa_Kamz]

​@@imranxalaminBetter than Jokic and Luka too.

[@aewisjericho8848]

@@Killa_KamzNo luka and jokic Are better

[@Killa_Kamz]

@@aewisjericho8848 Naw

[@ATF-]

This is the opposite of never winning a ring curse, you get a ring and everyone is ready for you to retire now

[@beckembrown7002]

1. Jokic 2. Embiid 3. Luka 4. SGA 5. Tatum 6. Giannis

[@i.qena_]

@@beckembrown7002😂😂😂

[@kaz7690]

Half of the NBA community only cares about players that struggle until they actually go all the way. It happened with Giannis, ppl loved his underdog story but now that he's won it all, they don't pay him any attention anymore. Jokic is the same, he won the championship last year and now folks seem to care less about him as opposed to Luka, aka the new superstar that has not won a MVP or championship. If Luka does go all the way, you can bet this community is looking for their new shiny aura man (aka just watch out for Ant or Shai)

[@GhostiePostie]

​@@beckembrown7002no

[@j0eyhz620]

@@kaz7690the thing is Jokic and giannis there games aren’t the most commercial thing. Edwards and Luka are magic on tv same thing won’t happen to them

[@austinbender8333]

Giannis’s performance to close out that finals was probably the best playoff performance I’ve ever personally seen, having not been alive to watch basketball in the 90s or before.

[@elcampeon212]

2x MVP, 1x DPOY, 1x Champ and Finals MVP. This dude is arguably one of the 3 best power forwards of all time.

[@srdjanpajic2404]

Second best in my eyes

[@smgyro1476]

He's number 2 imo, no doubt

[@oggalaxyxxryuma7702]

He is there with dirk and timmy forsure. Better than kg imo cuz he was the man of that bucks team.

[@timothy_b03]

Best Buck of all time too

[@malikwilson7387]

​@@srdjanpajic240410th best .Jokic clears giannis. Giannis has zero skill

[@justicemiller1805]

Giannis gets so much hate for no reason. He’s definitely become underrated, I’m so tired of the “no bag” narrative. People don’t give him his flowers so thank you for doing so

[@smoothsavage2870]

Naw, he gets hate for injuring Kyrie in 2021.

[@G34SZN]

@@smoothsavage2870so aka casuals?

[@smoothsavage2870]

@@G34SZN Most people dont know that he intentionally injured Kyrie that series. Those would be the casuals. There's a reason he hasnt so much as seen an ECF since then and he's only been to an ECF one time outside of 2021.

[@G34SZN]

@@smoothsavage2870 this is the most casual comment i’ve ever seen

[@smoothsavage2870]

@@G34SZN Giannis fans regularly make the most casual comments i've ever seen. Is what it is ig.

[@pedrobellizzi4703]

As a bucks fan, it feels like no matter how good giannis is he won't win a MVP no more. And it is frustrating to have 3 all star caliber players and throw it to the trash with doc rivers and darvim ham to coach it

[@AceTheCap823]

I still feel he can win more mvps. However, I do agree his path to more mvps will be harder than other candidates

[@hfjdksalable]

Jokic and luka are mid on defense, if mvp voters cared about defense giannis would have 5 mvps right now.

[@OfficialTyrellP]

3?

[@KurinKato1]

He reached that lebron tier after he won a chip he can average 35 15 and 5 still won’t win

[@smgyro1476]

Darvin Ham was literally an assistant coach when they won in 2021. He's not the problem in an assistant role. You should know that as a Buck's fan. Also the hate Doc gets is overblown. The people who criticize him often have zero knowledge of the X's and O's about basketball. He actually coached fairly well in this years playoffs with well executed gameplan and adjustments throughout the series. The only problem was the injuries to the stars. Stop acting like he still doesn't have a major chance to win right now. If you are paying attention to this off season and the young players we have, you'd know we have a really good chance to win it all this year

[@Daemon633]

Saying Giannis played '3' of the 5 games last year vs Miami is so disingenuous. He got injured in the 1st quarter of the 1st game and forced himself to come back the last 2 games CLEARLY being still injured and still dropped 38/20 in the elimination game. You guys driving stupid narratives like the one i mentioned is the reason why you made this video

[@rayneozier]

Yeah he “played in” 3 games. But he didn’t actually “play” 3 games. I agree with you.

[@DontuseMyRealNameYTplz1425]

If there’s one thing to criticize him of though is that elimination game, he shot 12/26 from the free throw line in a game they lost in OT

[@GwumpusLumpus]

Did you watch that elimination game 5? 4th qtr he looked lost and terrified with the ball in his hands, he was getting hunted by the 8th seed at home

[@howarddavis3517]

💯

[@wh0.tf_]

@@GwumpusLumpusdid you read the fucking comment dude

[@mollypond5]

he’s got the same energy as tim duncan. he’s just unbelievably dominant in a way that isn’t flashy at times. it goes under the radar but in terms of intangibles there’s no one like them

[@mollypond5]

@KennyFR8 kys

[@guilhermebittar917]

He's still mvp caliber. The most talented player in the east by far.

[@bani9407]

Mvp caliber yes, most talented no

[@user-kf8xv4qe4c]

@@bani9407in the east? Easily

[@thebeesknees6896]

@@bani9407whose more talented in the east? Embiid the fraud? Its not Jalen Brunson. It ain’t Tatum or Brown. So again i ask you who is more talented than Giannis IN THE EAST ?

[@mikeblaze7424]

@@thebeesknees6896embiid is def more talented better footwork more finesse better handles better shot actually takes shot outside of the restricted circle and plays defense just as good or better

[@chrilpy]

@@bani9407just because he can’t shoot and doesn’t have a bag doesn’t mean he can’t be considered talented. KD has one of the deepest bags in NBA history but he’s nowhere close to Lebron whose only move is running into defenders

[@alexsmith3598]

It was "we can't give this guy MVP until he wins a Finals" which is crazy to begin with. Then he won Finals that year and it's "is it Embiid's turn or do we give it to Luka yet?" They don't even look at numbers anymore and Giannis on the Bucks is one of the best teams. Without they're a first round out. He does need to play healthy this year especially playoffs, but people are constantly biased and look for their favorite story. They forced Joel Embiid to get an award because he isn't getting one any other way.

[@divinemattress]

As a bucks fan, i am happy to see some love on my goat ❤. Giannis is the best player on earth and he’ll show it this year. 30+ppg on 60% fg last season and best 2 way player on earth. Can’t get better than that

[@JOK3RC4RDx]

I’m firmly believe Giannis is the best player slightly ahead of Jokic and if he wasn’t injured and played in these playoffs I think he would’ve put that debate to rest

[@Renegade-kf8fp]

Lol

[@pouihurmen]

Lmao

[@JOK3RC4RDx]

@@Renegade-kf8fp lol

[@JOK3RC4RDx]

@@pouihurmen lmao

[@MeBihhhh]

Facts

[@QW22312]

Best player in the game, not playing in the post season made people forget.

[@kaidouvalorant9827]

What’s crazy to me is that Giannis wasn’t in MVP conversations despite the 30 ppg on 60% shooting. To me I think the media just matters a lot, and Giannis isn’t getting the media attention he deserves. Milwaukee is a smaller market with a smaller fanbase, so for Giannis to regain that title of best player in the world he would have to do something to really shock everyone that’s completely new, I just don’t see it happening unfortunately.

[@rob.parsnips]

Ehhh, Denver’s not a huge market either, plus Giannis is one of the beloved stars in the NBA. There’s a movie about him and his family on Disney+. If there’s a media bias, I don’t see it. But I could be wrong. He’s got two MVPs already, and Shai and Luka have zero. People want to give them their flowers. And Jokic is just undeniably the best if you care at all about stats, it would be crazy to give MVP to anyone else (except Embiid if he didn’t get hurt, a full season at that level would demand an MVP).

[@Virgil191]

@@rob.parsnipsthe issue is that the people whos votes actually matter cannot get enough of jokic, giannis isn’t appealing to them due to his game

[@youngty7174]

​@rob.j.g if we base ourselves on their stats, Luka shouldve been the MVP tbh. The media just loves Jokic, and it's clear this year's MVP was meant for Jokic as an apology for what they did last year when they gave it to Embiid

[@kaidouvalorant9827]

@@rob.parsnips Right, Denver isn’t a big market but still Joker is getting that kind of respect because the media is paying attention to him. Giannis is only not the best player in the league because no one on TV is talking about it because they’re all used to it now. I think we’re on the same page, just at different times, I don’t think Giannis deserved the MVP last season (I was rooting for Luka) but I certainly think he deserved to be brought up in those conversations more than he was. It’s just unfortunate to watch 82 games of your favorite player dominating and some people got Jalen Brunson over him, no disrespect to Brunson of course. I just think it’s unfortunate that people can maintain greatness and not get any appreciation for it. The market has nothing to do with getting popular, but does with maintaining it. Just my take but I appreciate your input.

[@TidePodChan]

@@rob.parsnips Jokic had has bunch of media guys who suck him off at literally every opportunity, not his fault, but its a thing.

[@mjohn3126]

It’s crazy that Giannis is the first player to finish a season with 30ppg while shooting 60% from the floor and we’re asking “Is he underrated?” Hopefully the Bucks will bounce back and show that when healthy they are a top team in the league

[@broizon205]

Bucks should be able to easily bounce back for who they got on the team, but don’t forget that Doc is still in power. As long as he is in power, Bucks will most likely always be held back from getting another ring or multiple rings, as we have seen from past teams under Doc (such as the Sixers and Clippers).

[@Asaenz2468]

The thing about Giannis is he gives his 100% every damn game. ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FLOOR. The consensus three best players in the league have been Jokic, Luka, and Embiid. As great as Luka is, his defense is just atrocious, Jokic is a good defender at best, Embiid is the only guy out of these three that is elite on the defensive side, however he has his post season slip ups. But here’s Giannis, a guy who is ELITE on BOTH SIDES PLUS he has proven he is a playoff riser. I don’t get why people don’t see Giannis in that that best player in the world category. It honestly baffles me.

[@jacksonpayne3477]

He should definitely be on the category and I honestly rarely see Embiid put above him, and anyone who says Embiid is better is being ridiculous. Jokic vs Giannis I think is a fair discussion for best player in the league tho. I would personally take jokic, but I understand if someone would go the other way.

[@ThreatFifa]

I don’t think giannis is elite on offense, his shooting could always be better but I agree with everything else

[@Repl1ka404]

Cause people are casuals

[@lilshawnweezy1]

​@@ThreatFifahe shot 60% from the field last season loool

[@RealParadox85]

​@@lilshawnweezy1cuz most his shots are dunks lmaooo

[@chop735]

YES YES YES he defenetly has become underrated

[@beckembrown7002]

1. Jokic 2. Embiid 3. Luka 4. SGA 5. Tatum 6. Giannis

[@sportsskeptics]

@@beckembrown7002exactly Kenny’s point. You putting Giannis at 6 has shown he’s become underrated

[@beckembrown7002]

@@sportsskeptics 6th is fair

[@chop735]

@@beckembrown7002 1 jokic 2 luka 3 giannis

[@kamsimba3152]

@@beckembrown7002fair but not correct

[@buoyed06]

kenny really making me tune out of the olympics for this

[@beastboy9472]

watching this during the timeouts

[@bigbabyjosh]

Olympics don't start until the 26th cuh

[@joeking122]

@@bigbabyjosh he talking bout the exibition bruh. Same typpa thing

[@beckembrown7002]

1. Jokic 2. Embiid 3. Luka 4. SGA 5. Tatum 6. Giannis

[@burning69]

​@@beckembrown7002 what you smoking its 1. Jokic 2. Giannis 3. Luka 4. Embiid 5. Sga 6. Tatum

[@rt2121]

He's definitely been underrated. Since his injury I've seen some of the worst takes on Giannis. People forget about that finals run

[@beckembrown7002]

1. Jokic 2. Embiid 3. Luka 4. SGA 5. Tatum 6. Giannis

[@Lightdragon773]

​@@beckembrown7002 Drugs are bad

[@motivationhub9534]

@@beckembrown7002obvious troll

[@lilshawnweezy1]

​@@motivationhub9534yeah i seen his comment everywhere

[@JohnStockton7459]

@@beckembrown7002 Nobodies taking that bait baby bro😂

[@MarioBlue-mm2ih]

It’s straight up crazy that people don’t think Giannis is a top 3 player. 30 points on crazy efficiency while being an amazing defender. Dudes a walking double double and probably the 3rd best scorer in the league (behind Luka and Embiid you could argue maybe SGA but I don’t think he is that level yet). You can make a really good argument for Giannis being the best player in the league. (I personally have Luka at 1 and Jokic and Giannis as an interchangeable 2). Extra note: I’m not a bucks fan so I don’t want anyone to think I’m biased towards Giannis, I just think he ignored by the media.

[@Sam_Berghammer]

People that call Giannis solely "run and dunk" are the most dismissive basketball fans out there. His offensive game is so much more than that. The amount of euros, spin and swim moves he uses to get to the basket is crazy. He moves so fast for his size he is practically impossible to defend unless you throw multiple bodies at him, but obviously his playstyle wears him down due to how much he gets fouled on what could be argued as every play. Not to mention, Giannis's passing might genuinely be the single most underrated skill a player has in the league, he makes so many ridiculous finds and throws to shooters and cutters. He is insanely good as both a P+R ballhandler and roller, they did that stuff a bunch with him and Khris as well as Brook. The Bucks coaching the past few years just did not utilize him off-ball enough with his movement, it's something I want them to take more advantage of. Lastly, his defense isn't even a question for how much better he is than Jokic/Luka on that front. I do think we will see him be more on-ball this season so that will be fun. It's a clear 1A and B between Jokic and him for me.

[@rohandunbar2072]

@@Sam_Berghammer more like travel & dunk

[@glazzy4826]

Still cant shoot man that's why they aint won nothing after 2021

[@nomicon2770]

​@@rohandunbar2072 lil bro doesn't watch basketball

[@Chessbox09]

I like how you said "swim moves", that perfectly describes he's variety of moves around the rim. I've never heard it described that way, but it's perfectly said.

[@MlLFS4L]

He’s still top 3 IN THE WORLD guys cmon

[@drewp839]

He’s still 1, last time we saw him in the playoffs he was injured putting up 40 and 20

[@xKingofHearts87x]

I think he's number 2 behind Jokic but yeah he's easily a top 3 player.

[@drewp839]

@@xKingofHearts87x I definitely think Jokic over Giannis is a valid opinion, but I think Giannis has just been consistently better personally

[@joe-ol9mh]

3/10 bait

[@yeetiiss5763]

Top 2

[@whoisbj_1516]

He had 50 points and made all his free throws in the last game of the finals and the espn just went back to the lakers😂😂😂”how can the lakers compete for a title next year “

[@QW22312]

Giannis has 💯 become severely underrated.

[@smgyro1476]

The Bucks had one of the best off seasons and nobody knows about it. The vet minimum signings they brought in are all fantastic and could potentially be some of the sneakiest and best of the entire NBA season, like Derrick Jones Jr was for the Mavs. We also have really good young players that nobody knows about it because they rarely played last year, and it's gonna be funny when the Bucks have a fantastic season next year, defensively and offensively, and people act like this is unexpected. Also, for the record, the Bucks starting lineup was number 1 in net rating last year. Above the Nuggets who people say is the best starting five in the NBA. People need to stop acting like the Bucks are a bad team with bad pieces, including you Kenny. The pessimism is built off of bs media narratives that were either directly lies, or lies due to the ommision of important context. They were and are gonna be a really good team

[@silversoulken]

Only thing I’m worried about is Doc playing those players you’re talking about. Bc I do feel like they are better on paper but…….its Doc 😭

[@Renegade-kf8fp]

Here we go again

[@HyperVentilation-d6f]

no idea what shi you talking about but I trust in Kenny more than you

[@Flame_comp]

thank god someone finally talks about him.

[@OldAfrobeats]

1st player to average 30ppg on 60% shooting

[@Kodreanu23]

just take out defensive 3 seconds and these numbers will go down, no worries.

[@MeBihhhh]

@@Kodreanu23cope harder

[@Kodreanu23]

@@MeBihhhh no, this is good enough

[@bethanyreynolds7270]

​@@Kodreanu23Sure take away all the rules that makes basketball, basketball. Ofc every superstar would play more terribly

[@Kodreanu23]

@@bethanyreynolds7270 no, that rule doesn't exist in international bball

[@BradtasticCraft]

So glad I found you and the Boys at Numbers on the Board this season. Y'all are a major upgrade in my NBA life!

[@phishinabucket7331]

only plater to average 28ppg on 60% shooting, there are 12 seasons where a player has average 25ppg, 5apg and 5rpg while shooting 55% from the field. Giannis has 6 of those seasons, hes also the noly player to do it while also getting a steal and block per game (which he did for 5 seasons). if you move the marker post and make it 28ppg hes done that 5 times and the only other player to do it was KD (who only played 47 games). i know stats arent everything and you can nit pick through stats to find ones that suit your argument but this is pretty impressive.

[@youngnas15]

Still can’t shoot. Over rated defender. Can’t make free throws. Got carried by jrue holiday

[@toogud7918]

@@youngnas15carried by jrue holiday is ridiculous lmao. I’m a Celtics fan and I can admit Jrue was not nearly as impactful as even Middleton for their title run. Giannis is an all defense, maybe not dpoy but he’s phenomenal on both ends. Theres 100% chance he’s the best player on whatever team you like

[@MeBihhhh]

@@toogud7918he’s literally won dpoy. On top of that he avg 30

[@toogud7918]

@@MeBihhhh but I didnt really agree with that dpoy, he’s to slow on the perimeter compared to AD, bam, JJJ, or even embiid. He’s great but some people act like he’s a 1-5 defender but Tatum would seek the switch on him during their series. I think his offense is underrated though

[@MeBihhhh]

@@toogud7918 I would only give AD the nod over Giannis. None of those guys you name are 1-5 either FYI Giannis clamps Embiid better than th other way around. 14-6 in his last 20 matchups vs embiid btw

[@LilianaMcleod-pj9jw]

Love your style, keep rocking it!

[@HezekiahHopkins-j9h]

We must support this man… this is the friend we all wish we had to chat basketball with.

[@dylanadams7919]

Get friends?

[@SteppaLil404]

Giannis’ recent playoff losses isn’t his fault tbh, Took the Celtics to game 7 with No Middleton and was injured the next two. All he needs is a Healthy playoffs and he’ll prolly reach the finals again

[@Kodreanu23]

missing free throws against the Heat doesn't have any connection with his injury.

[@smoothsavage2870]

We dont wanna hear about injury excuses. They are a part of the game. Giannis was on that floor in the 2022 and 2023 postseasons and lost. Period.

[@rob.parsnips]

I’m a big Delon Wright fan. If you look at his disruptions (like steals and deflections, or even just changing an opponent’s play) per 48 or 100 or whatever, he’s awesome. I think he has more IQ than people recognize, since he’s a low-profile player. But if you emphasize a disruptor/playmaker role for him, he can still be impactful, even at 32.

[@Adrik808]

Wait no way Delon Wright is 32 😭😭

[@subjectively_objective]

@@Adrik808 crazy cuz i remember that raptors bench mob like it was yesterday still...

[@Adrik808]

@@subjectively_objective fr fr

[@vikings_fans_anonymous]

If Giannis was a 34% 3pt shooter, he would never catch the kinda hate that he does. The fact that he doesn’t have a reliable jumpshot and doesn’t play in a big market is a big reason for the hate

[@MeBihhhh]

So basically you want him to be dominant at everything? Giannis can literally do more than any player in the league and all yall care about is a 3 shot?

[@tooforwon241]

Thank you for this Kenny! People quickly forget because of the injuries sadly

[@jaretallred8138]

Bucks front office has been hampering Giannis last two or so years, have made some puzzling moves

[@camchangfilms]

The dame move wasn’t puzzling at the time

[@jaretallred8138]

@@camchangfilms Talking more about things like hiring Doc Rivers of all people when the team was on a 57 win pace, I get Giannis had beef with Budenholzer but much better to work that out than hire a complete dog shit coach to appease him. Just a terrible decision all around

[@basket.ball.]

@@jaretallred8138problem was hiring AG in the first place. Idc about the record the team could barely beat the pistons with griffin

[@Torgospizza930]

​@@basket.ball.That's what he's saying. Griffin was a coach that giannis himself had a hand in hiring

[@RealParadox85]

Oh, coach killer who signs off on every move isn't to blame somehow? Its the FO huh? Yall worse than Bronsexuals dodging accountability

[@drummerjos]

Health is wealth, Giannis and Khris injured in the post season is rough

[@phrog4323]

Seeing people make comments about the video 3 minutes after it drops when the video is 11 minutes long is comedy 😭

[@silversoulken]

That’s literally every video this length on YT with accounts with thousands of subs lol.

[@rahulyaadavvv]

Here’s something that will blow your mind, people don’t need to watch the whole video to make a comment. Hope this helps!

[@discobassgroove]

His game six is one of the best finals close out games of all time

[@pdiddy5235]

I have so much respect for Giannis. Came from nothing and is a star.

[@himothy04]

Username is crazy😂😂

[@pdiddy5235]

@@himothy04 I’ve had it for years lmao. I don’t even party

[@smoothsavage2870]

Most of the players in the league came from nothing...

[@pdiddy5235]

@@smoothsavage2870 not to the level of Giannis. Nobody in the nba worked harder than him to get where he is today.

[@skeeeeeeuuuup1593]

Thank u for this vid man finally someone talked about it

[@symeoncarter8144]

He is underrated because of media like yourself lol 😂😂

[@BigBroKuma]

Giannis isn't underrated he is under discussed. This is why we can't have a face of the league at this point if you get hurt in back to back seasons most NBA fans aren't waiting for you to get back up and reclaim your throne there always gonna be someone else doing something amazing there is too much talent in the league rn.

[@Yntag]

I think Giannis is still the best in the world. Jokic and Luka are better playmakers and shooters, Luka is a better scorer than Giannis too, but Giannis had the most efficient 30 ppg of all time last season and he’s miles better than both of them on defense. Plus Giannis is an underrated playmaker, he’s really becoming underrated because people are just used to him and I think that’s dumb, Giannis had better stats and a better record than both embiid and jokic last season and he wasn’t even really in the conversation for mvp. I think it’s insane that Jokic has more mvps than Giannis does.

[@romsawyer2694]

Thank you Kenny for putting this in conversation. Giannis the best!

[@skiefdabes]

*HOT TAKE*: people called Giannis the best player in the world reluctantly (because of his simple looking play style) and now that a more fancy player has an argument he is overlooked despite still being the best.

[@Kodreanu23]

nope, people called him the best because of the 2021 Finals. He smashed the team which has never won against the fully healthy team. Bohoo.

[@smoothsavage2870]

@@Kodreanu23 AND Giannis himself injured a player on the way to that championship as well.

[@Kodreanu23]

@@smoothsavage2870 that's another thing. But whenever I bring that up, they call me a Nets fan. SMH

[@Kodreanu23]

@@smoothsavage2870 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKvOk6Cids98rbcsi=eywEH43UV-n6ijql I don't have to say anything else

[@smoothsavage2870]

@@Kodreanu23 What's so funny about it, is that they laughed and told us to cry about it, but every postseason after 2021, either Giannis or his teammates were injured. And when those tables turned, the Giannis fans became the biggest crybabies about injuries i've ever seen. Even after that winnable series against the Celtics in 2022.

[@Wallyworld30]

Giannis starting 5 this year is elite with PG: Dame SG: Gary Trent Jr. SF: Khris Middleton PF: Giannis C: Brook Lopez. Coaching staff is elite with both Doc Rivers and Darvin Ham who was assistant coach when Bucks won chip in 2021. Khris Middleton is back and healthy Khris averaged 25/9/5 in playoffs this year. Bucks are going to win Chip in 2025 playoffs.

[@King_of_Sofa]

Luka Donic is over rated, not Giannis. Basketball is a two way sport. Most people don't put enough emphasis on the importance of defense. Luka's defense was absolutely exposed in the finals. I don't get how he can be considered a top 10 player after seeing that. A top 3 offensive player, sure

[@alexescutia4805]

Luka is at worst a top 5 player in the league

[@Mrcool19771]

In the 2022 Celtics series, with no Middleton, Giannis was the first player in NBA history to score 200 points , 100 rebounds , and 50 assist in a playoff series.

[@averyshaw2142]

He definitely has the least amount of offensive versatility in conversations with Jokic, Luka, Embiid, Shai, Tatum etc but that doesn't mean he isn't the most dominant player in the world at what he's good at

[@youngty7174]

And he's easily the best defender on that list you mentionned.

[@JSauer21]

@@youngty7174 Jokic has been a better defender the last several seasons believe it or not

[@knacho751]

@@JSauer21 are you okay?

[@solgonzalez271]

​@@JSauer21 jfc 😂😂 you can't be serious

[@solgonzalez271]

Crazy cos he averaged more ppg last season than all of then except for luka.. had the 3rd highest apg out of them all & was more efficient than them all.. so idk.. maybe he is just as offensively versatile as them all 🤷‍♂️

[@flowstyle21]

Giannis mvp szn incoming. Bucks got a good roster if they remain healthy.

[@tokyotalkshoops]

He’s top 1

[@CubaSmileSauce]

Not underrated, just forgotten.

[@WestCoastCheeseHead]

NBA fans have amnesia Giannis shot 60% from the field this year everyone didn’t want to talk about him because the bucks were disappointing

[@MrNixth]

Regardless of if he's the best player or not, he's someone you wanna root for. That makes him special in my eyes

[@immartyfromowteam8064]

Bucks are, in my full honest opinion, in one of the weirdest situations in the league. Bad things keep happening to them, they keep choking and they're not really getting younger or developing young players. They're just so old... Lose Brogdon, lose Jrue, miss out on Bogdan Bogdanovic, KMid getting injured, Giannis getting injured, weak bench, fire your COTY, sign an unheard of Coach, fire him halfway through the season just to sign Doc....

[@broizon205]

Right now, as long as Doc is in power, Bucks are most likely screwed when they need to win the games that actually matter, similar to what teams like the Sixers and Clippers went through under Doc, but potentially worse.

[@saughs]

Not sure if choking is the right term if Giannis wasn’t playing. Last two series he was healthy they won it all, and then took Boston to 7 games. Gets hurt 1st quarter of the playoffs next year, and misses the entire playoffs last year.

[@justinthompson436]

he's underrated, undervalued, and undercovered. That man is different.

[@jaysonjackson7916]

Media coverage of Giannis is disrespectful.

[@DarthEardrum]

Dark Horse Trade ideas for Lauri: Lauri to Indiana for J Walker B Mathurin and a slew of picks. Could put Indiana in the contention conversation with Boston, New York and Philly.

[@jakematter1819]

Nba forgot Bucks existed for a while. Like GTJ signing to the bucks? Sleep. NEPO Baby in LA? Evrey fucking headline

[@DontuseMyRealNameYTplz1425]

Well when your team is first round exit two years in a row and you’ve been injured the last two postseasons (both aren’t his fault) your reputation will take a hit Hopefully he can stay healthy so the Bucks actually have a chance this year

[@noahmedrano222]

I mean how many injuries can you say is the players fault? Nobody injures themselves on purpose. Now the 2023 injury was retarded on part of Kevin Love undercutting him, but this past year his calf was sore for a while and kept pushing himself. And no coincidence that it stopped him on the Celtics game, perhaps his rival team. Both in East MKE eliminated BOS in 2019, BOS eliminates MKE 2022. Khris Middleton is historically a Celtic killer.

[@rabeechowdhury]

​@@noahmedrano222 if he isn't taking care of his body seriously, of course he is going to get injured. That 2023 post season was arguably the best chance Giannis had at a second ring. Homecourt against the celtics for the first time in a 7 game series. Poor paint defense nuggets teams, chemistry-less knicks team, etc, etc. That team would defeat the 2021 bucks in 6 if healthy.

[@DontuseMyRealNameYTplz1425]

@@noahmedrano2222023 was definitely just an accident but last season he was dealing with calf issues that I think lead to the calf strain, that’s up to the Bucks training staff and they kinda failed to protect him in that regard

[@noahmedrano222]

@@DontuseMyRealNameYTplz1425 I get the training staff has to protect him but giannis knows his body better than anyone, he has to be honest with the staff about his health

[@noahmedrano222]

@@rabeechowdhury What team would've beaten the 2021 bucks?

[@SaniulHaque]

Great video! Just wanted to correct something you said - Bucks would not be able to package a trade sending out Portis and Connaughton - since they are above the second apron, they are NOT allowed to aggregate salaries in a trade.

[@jay___don]

His game isn’t pretty to watch compared to players like Luka which causes people to underrate him. Especially with more and more people caring about “having a bag” even though Giannis is extremely efficient

[@Binkkyyyyy]

Can’t believe Giannis is almost 30 years old😢he was just 24 istg

[@viperstrike0]

He def is, people look at Jokic and Luka and fall in love with their all time offencive out put and yes they are both better than Giannis is that sense but Giannis does it on both side of the floor while still being an offensive powerhouse. I dont think Jokic and Luka are cones simply because they are smart and got size but they for sure arent putting in effort he does.2 way stars in general are underrated in that sense except for Trey for some reason, he is the only guy with offensive powers in the 1 percentile that gets shit on for being a turd on defense for some reason.

[@panther_divinity]

Giannis quietly had possibly his best season and it seems like nobody noticed/cared outside of Milwaukee

[@yummyteeth7021]

Short answer No. Long answer Yes.

[@blablablaa14]

If Giannis has another season where he isn't healthy for the playoff, he is gonna start seeming much closer to Embiid than people think. There was always a real concern that Giannis won't be as great as his body ages. He just spent two offseasons hurt and his team was eliminated in the first round. If it becomes three in a row people will start doubting why we should care about him, same as they do with Embiid

[@Cell9074]

Giannis is a champion. Greatest finals of all time. Simply can never take that away from him

[@Kodreanu23]

Giannis, Kawhi, same tier... in case Giannis starts with playoff injuries.

[@MeBihhhh]

Embiid who can’t even get out of the second round? 😂maybe layoff the drugs

[@allank8497]

He’s the best player in the world

[@emilfrederiksen.1622]

Giannis is elite hopefully the supporting cast steps up and we can make another deep run.

[@justtheguy7184]

good shit

[@Bolt_btw]

Appreciate you making this video Kenny. Yes giannis has become extremely underrated and as a giannis fan it's sad to see the disrespect ppl put on his name. Doing gods work 🙏

[@demontime9490]

Giannis had THE most efficient season ever,not his most efficient ever. No one has had 30ppg+ on 60%. Should have won MVP . Either him or Luka. Entire last season was a narrative clown show.

[@Mogollita_]

Coaching and team chemistry are critical to winning, while Giannis is having an all time offensive year it won't matter as long as he is coached by doc and it won't impact their winning % as long as he and Dame can't figure out how to fit together on the court

[@theoneabovethou9601]

We need a conversation too about luka being on one leg and leading the playoffs in total points rebounds assists and steals

[@anthonydurante7109]

Make sure to include his defensive ability in that convo

[@theoneabovethou9601]

@@anthonydurante710941% dfg and led in steals, thanks for shouting out luka

[@thebeesknees6896]

@@anthonydurante7109before he was hurt his defense was really good by luka standards after that it was a blow by simulator

[@anthonydurante7109]

@@thebeesknees6896 no one gave Tatum a break after he had a screwed up shoulder in the warriors series and played like shit. Why yall mfs goin easy on Luka?

[@glst1974]

As a Bucks fan, I agree. I feel health is key. Dame getting back to veing Dame and the upgrade will help, a lot . In the end, Giannis will need Dame to help lead.

[@Gyannisins]

Imo Giannis is still the best player in the league because of jis defense along with his top tier offense, but im not taking away points from jokic, Luka or them. Js my opinion

[@charlielaur]

THANK YOU KENNY!! Us bucks fans have been screaming what you said in this video the whole offseason 😭

[@erv_.]

2nd greatest Pf of all time

[@nj2236]

We always down for Kenny rambling about basketball during the offseason

[@brady.walczak]

He’s the best player in the league. The fact that people will argue about who is better OFFENSIVELY between Jokic and Giannis should tell you all you need to know, as Giannis is twice the player Jokic is on defense. Even if Jokic is 10% better on offense, Giannis is 200% better on defense.

[@theonewhogotaway6384]

Obviously joking is better offensively, bro. Gianni is great, but joking us just way more versatile

[@AnTana-zt9ln]

Giannis is for sure a better 2 way player, however you're really underestimating that you can always go to your go to guy on offense, and you can bypass the best opposing defender. Not to mention that Jokic is a considerably better playmaker, and 5 more assists per game means 10/15 points more every game. Not to mention that you also have to take into account efficiency and A:TO ratio, and Jokic has the edge in both.

[@49zeph]

Saying that it’s an argument between jokic and giannis offensively is ridiculous. Giannis is great offensively, of course, averaging 30+ efficiently and being a solid playmaker, but jokic is another level. The conversation about 2 way play versus offensive juggernaut is a valid one, but there’s levels to jokic’s offense that no other player in the league can reach, and it’s an offense driven league like it or not

[@slightexag]

I'd say Giannis is 2. Jokic is way more than 10% better than him on offense, especially considering every single guy who plays with him is 150% better+ because of his passing. He would make any team way better, whereas Giannis' skills would fail to elevate the guys around him to the same degree on a team without another primary scorer (like Middleton). Jokic is easily the best player in the league, while Giannis is the second best, and best two-way guy.

[@nicerice9689]

@@49zeph no tf he is not what

[@augustoribeiro6567]

I'm a casual and a Bucks fan, 100% agreed.

[@m.d.692]

Giannis is better than Jokic. Jokic has a better team.

[@POLOMAN847]

Giannis is the best player in the league imo

[@4Reggie]

How you view the Bucks is how you view GIannis. For my money , I'm not taking anybody over Giannis .. and because of that , I think him being literally one of the 17 - 20 greatest players of all time can make them just as good as anybody in the league.

[@chrilpy]

Giannis doesn’t deserve any MVP consideration until he learns how to set a screen

[@urbaindelva7869]

Yeah, because that's the determining factor for MVP. 😒

[@jimbobfisher8904]

People also forget jokic and Giannis aren’t on the most popular teams in the league location wise

[@Wagwan38]

In this era, if people aren’t being extremely negative to a player, then they’re okay with them. That’s why Dame and Doc got so much flak (deserved or not)

[@nicco6020]

i have never thought of Giannis as the best player in the world, because his offense is so limited and i do not fear him in the half court in late game during the playoffs as much as i do a Lbj, Luka , Jokic.

[@zaytoff7999]

Post more golfing content, I love your golf channel

[@henockjoyimanuel1763]

Thank you Kenny 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@_i_a_n_]

Kenny you're a real one 👏

[@lakeshoreexclusive]

Kenny is always showin up for Milwaukee

[@Wallyworld30]

Khris MIddleton is back healthy and is once again a BEAST! In playoffs this year Khris averaged 25/9/5 on 49/38/83 shooting splits. Gary Trent Jr. is a legit starting SG huge upgrade over Beasley who can't play defense and Beas also can't hit 3's in the playoffs.

[@Buff-Wings]

I mean yeah you miss two postseasons in a row people are going to forget about you. He’s still absolutely top 10 in the league, almost inarguably top 5, but the playoffs are where you make your impact. As far as regular MVP goes, he’ll pretty much need to carry the Bucks to the 1st seed and/or put up career high numbers.

[@westregent66]

Giannis not having Khris in '22 killed a sure back to back finals appearance

[@codyfeisel6970]

He's like Tim Duncan was at this moment. People know he's goof but they don't talk about him enough.

[@verward]

What I think is hurting giannis is that somehow he is more focussed on offensive production than defensive right now. When he was regarded the best player in the world, he was also maybe the best defender in the league. Atleast one of the guys. This made it really easy accept some of his shortcomings. But yeah, I genuinely believed he should have won the 2023 MVP award. His was the number 1 seed and he played out of his mind.

[@shannalikehannah4185]

100% under-rated and the fact that people try to down play his championship because players on other teams got hurt is ridiculous. It literally happened to all kind of teams this year and the media isn't trying to take away from them.

[@justnahayo8490]

Thank you Kenny for making a Giannis appearance post🙏🙏yessir