Caller: "My husband wants to disassociate but I can't let go of my parents"

[@hybridous]

this sucks so bad. you gotta feel for them... if you have a choice between making your PARENTS happy...and giving your kids a decent childhood...you know what you gotta do.

[@bigboithe8th]

She doesn’t want her kids to be the “weirdo religious kid that she was”. Yeah I think all of us that grew up in this cult can totally relate to this, yours included. While I sympathize with the caller and her situation, it warms my heart to continually hear of so many people call in who are waking up, especially the younger generation.

[@thehannahregina]

I let go of my parents this week... they told me they would stop talking to me if I disassociate tomorrow... good for them... I'm done...they made their choice in life I'm making mine. So long... still love them no matter what.

[@skippy1012]

Just fade....

[@thehannahregina]

@@skippy1012 already have... but since they said they would stop talking to me... good riddance. I love them but would not be treated that way. I asked them why are they talking to me now? I already told the elders to take me off their list and never contact me so why are they still speaking to me... might as well stop now... lol... they couldn't answer... lol

[@skippy1012]

@@thehannahregina don't hurt them to much ok. But stay strong and live your life.

[@thehannahregina]

@@skippy1012 hey they made their choice. I'm the one in therapy because of growing up in this cult. Everytime I have a conversation with them I have to get a therapy session. It comes down to my health. I don't do emotional blackmail anymore.

[@thehannahregina]

@@skippy1012 when your parents laugh at you and blame you when you try to describe the trauma you endured ... it's time to move on.

[@thebestevernurseshow9427]

I just went through this. I put in my disassociation letter a few weeks ago. I was also worried about “killing” my mother as she deals with heart problems and high blood pressure. So far she is alive but I hear through the grapevine that she isn’t doing well dealing with the stress. I’m sure she’s getting used to it with time though. I still choose to have hope that my whole family will be out one day! (About 10 people to go! 😂) So far it has been so worth it! I thought I would be distraught over the shunning but I’m actually filled with freedom and joy. I think you would benefit more than you can imagine in the long run! ❤

[@trevorariza9550]

At least she has feelings for you. My parents cared more about the embarrassment than anything. They weren’t heart broken they were ANGRY and 🔥 UP!!!!. My father literally said “ now we are that family” smh

[@thebestevernurseshow9427]

@@trevorariza9550 geez

[@trevorariza9550]

@@thebestevernurseshow9427 yeah my house was weird. The jw religion was almost used like a weapon when I was growing up. If I got in trouble(by trouble I mean talking in class type of trouble)on school my father would make me wear full suit with watchtowers in hand and me him and my mother would do street work all the way to school and then stand in front of school while everybody was going in. His words “ oh you wanna be like them huh I’ll show you”. I think he enjoyed watching me cry

[@rogerramjet4997]

@@trevorariza9550 no wonder you left. That’s not an upbringing that’s child torture😮 Hope you have come out the other side ok👌

[@georgeporgy7568]

I'm still Pimo myself my family is pressuring me to get back into field service they don't even know I haven't attended a meeting in a year and a half.

[@barbarahedges1791]

I will pray for this family to get free of the watchtower. I know a young girl, in her very early 20's that got disfellowshipped. Her family (all J.W.) did not shun her. They spoke on the phone and her mom would meet her in another area hoping not to be seen together, go shopping, have meals etc.

[@laymanphil8513]

For me, there is no hesitation. If my children were at risk of being insidiously indoctrinated by members of my family I would protect my children from this toxic influence. What parent would want to see their offspring get brain cancer?

[@laymanphil8513]

@@mollymalone2838 You really have to protect yourself, but above all, you have to protect the children as a priority. Their psychic future is at stake. There is no reason that only the JWs decide to ostracize us, we can also take the initiative. It was I who cut all ties with my sister when I left this cult in April 2019. Today it is my sister who is starting to think...

[@justdont2019]

Bless you, Lloyd. 3rd Gen born in here. Now Jewish and retired military. You are doing a great service. The trauma the JW’s inflict is lifelong and life-altering, no matter how successful we may become after leaving. The “organization” sets people up for failure in every way imaginable. Protect the children above all else. God Bless, Brother.

[@evalution3234]

Your freedom is paradise.

[@hustonmices3976]

Hilarious when she said I watch your rebuttals so I can tell my mom i watched the conventions’ 😂😂😅 I bet it’s acid to the watchtower when they hear this

[@jonwoodmass2849]

Fully awake well done.

[@ssbakker5798]

I also went through this. I choose for my kids and not for my parents. I wanted my kids to be free. I genuinely hope that I broke this generational cycle/curse. It's hard, but it is worth it. To truly be yourself and also to know that whatever choice your children will make in their life, they will never have to choose between giving up their relationship with you and being true to their self. You can now give your children the gift of unconditional love. I wish you all the best.💚

[@thebestevernurseshow9427]

I also agree with what Lloyd says about the fading/moving option! I did this years ago while I was getting ready to make my stand with a disassociation letter. It’s hard. I am a 5th generation.😮

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

God, the real one may help you 🇭🇳🙏

[@extraterrestrial4287]

Sometimes you just gotta flush 'em.

[@d_e_a_n]

What if the husband disassociates and she fades. The husband can celebrate Christmas while she is there and she can just say it’s all him.

[@skippy1012]

Yes.. Good point.

[@snowwhite2709]

It's a hard decision to make. I grew up in this cult and although I faded years ago, I still have some trauma left over from this religion. I had my kids after I faded, but know that I could never sacrifice my family and children's welfare for others that would would turn their back me for not believing what they do. I am so glad I left and my kids had a normal childhood being mixed up in this cult.

[@alisonschmitt9533]

Tough one. This really makes me appreciate the fact that I wasn’t close to jw family, or anyone else in the congregation, and I never had kids in the org. So when I DA’d at 19 I was able to focus solely on my own freedom. And it was still incredibly hard!

[@ogenmatic]

Can never tell anyone what the right thing to do is but it’s important to keep in mind that Watchtower is what put you in this awkward situation. If there’s blame to be doled out for emotional injury to yourself & others it falls firmly on them. I couldn’t live the lie.

[@philipatkins405]

Got to live your lives for your self not for a living cult as life is very short

[@kellyevans207]

This is what is so disheartening about this religion. The destruction of the family is beyond sad. I am glad she is able to call you and get some reasonable advice. She will be better for leaving!

[@ronwillan3179]

I have found fading and telling any JW's who try to speak to me of my deep love of God and the bible totally confuses them!!!

[@kathynmic5132]

I read this quote in Greek (I hope I translated it well enough) "The world would be a much better place if, instead of trying to be great offsprings, we were trying to be great ancestors." We are trying so hard to please our grandparents and parents, even at cost of our freedom of choice, life, thinking. All this does is creates a generation of suppressed and depressed people who will be waiting to be pleased by their own children and so on. I do not have a child yet. I thought I had to go through therapy before I even considered that, and now that therapy actually started working, I found the reason I want to have a child. To stop this circle. To offer true unconditional love to a new human and hope that this person will continue a brand new circle. We owe to our children, not to our parents.

[@pamelaruth7400]

Excellent point!!!

[@virginiagirl7014]

Well said Lloyd! I’m not responsible for my parents happiness!

[@madamecurious]

It’s so hard 😢 but someone has to break the cycle so future generations are not caught in the trap of a cult. And you never know - your parents and grandmother might “wake up too”. My daughter woke up first and told me everything and I listened. Now that we faded and moved away we feel free!! I wish you the same 💙

[@mamacat6959]

This happened to me also and I am so grateful to my daughter for loving me enough not to let me stay in this cult. She started by just saying little things that bothered her such as the gb having expensive suits and rings , then about the csa cases and so on..

[@madamecurious]

@@mamacat6959 , I’m so happy for you that you too found your way out of the org with the help of your daughter :) 💙

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

My children are my first priority BEFORE the beliefs of any parent or grandparent.

[@esmeraldapooner751]

I feel this parent will make it. I am blessed to have had this stopped in one generation,with only one parent believing in this. It's very important to get out before kids attend school. Make sure nobody brainwashes your child behind your back.

[@suzannep]

One thing that I didn't realize when I first woke up was that I had no obligation to talk to the elders about how I was feeling or about my status as a JW. Other exJW on facebook groups and on KZbin helped me realize this so I am technically still a JW since I just refused to speak with the elders when they started to hear things form other people about me drifting and about my social media posts. My mother has chosen to be an uber JW and shun me even though I am not disfellowshipped, but recently she has spoken to me a few times. Since in the callers case there are grandchildren involved the parents of the caller may be more willing to maintain a relationship even after finding out there is no intention to attend meetings or teach it to the kids. There are some JW who will look the other way in order to keep the relationships, so it might be worth trying to do a hybrid fade, where the parents are informed and the ground rules about not teaching the kids are outlined while the rest of the congregation can just think you are inactive and spiritually week, but you can avoid the announcement. I maintained superficial relationships for a few months with JW friends by just trying to change the topic when JW stuff would come up. By the time I decided to let JW friends know how I felt I had already made friends through local facebook groups and by actually talking to my neighbors and just getting to know them, and also by reconnecting with friends who had left the JW already. Having those outside friends really helped me through the stress of losing the JW friends one by one when they found out my intentions to live openly as who I am and not to come back to meetings.

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

Yes, yes... Getting s new setting clean from venom, toxicity. It's gonna help you to rebuilt inner strength. God may guide you. Ask him to do it. Listen BBN radio from internet 24/7 on air.

[@suzannep]

@@MrChinchilla_hn I do not believe there is a god, not like what is described in the bible or any other book. I can clearly see in the worlds holy books how they reflect human thinking and how they use religion to manipulate people into benefiting those who convince others to follow them. Take for example the radio station you mention, I'm sure those running it are making a great deal of money and they are able to influence peoples decision making. They can influence what people think, what they buy, who they vote for, and who they fight against. I will have nothing to do with religion ever again. Especially not a religion based on the bible a book that claims atrocities of genocide and human trafficking are condoned or caused by god. Best case scenario is that it is all made up, worst case scenario is, god exists and actually did those horrible things and tried to trick humans into thinking he is showing them love by doing those things. That is what an abuser does, they gaslight the victim into thinking the things they do are to show love.

[@Nanashi20]

Usually disassociating shouldnt lead to disfellowshipping. So if dissasociating leads to disfellowship nowadays then damn these guys are on some weird crusade.

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

One word: destructive. If they can't control you, they hate you.

[@RY-rz5fg]

It’s considered the same. When you are announced on stage, they say you’re no longer a witness so no one really knows why.

[@Nanashi20]

@@RY-rz5fg i guess the only time they dont announce anything is if you disassociate through fading huh? at least, thats what it seemed like to me? i never wrote a letter, but i did tell my parents i no longer wish to go to the hall, i told the elders i just dont want to be one anymore. So i guess im now on that case of just no longer a JW, but still able to talk to my friends and family from there if i so choose to, i guess it all depends on the country and congregation huh?

[@fujman100]

I successfully faded in 2012. I want to disassociate myself in writing - but it would prevent my brother from speaking to me. He's able to do so on this technicality. My mother and I haven't spoken since I stopped going to the meetings in 2012.

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

🙏🇭🇳

[@rogerramjet4997]

My only tit bit of a point of view. When I faded I thought it would break my parents and two brothers hearts and family life would be very different. But it has had the opposite effect my father thanked me for giving him a excuse to leave as well. As he knew the religion was a cult for many years and he was the Presiding Overseer and was on the Building Society right to the day he told the other elders he’s out. I’ve never had as good a relationship with my two brothers as I do now. There both PIMO just for there believing wife’s. I think it’s only a matter of time till they quit the insanity and leave for good. So you never know why or what the reasons people stay or what will make them wake up

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

Aha, it's a matter of time. Greetings from Honduras 🇭🇳

[@nigelwright850]

I am in awe of the common sense in this broadcast. It is so well presented and delivered. It is worth listening to again.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

The price between a cult and a religion is the price you must pay when you try to leave.

[@elizabethroblyn1392]

Hello all. Eventually YOU must come to the realization that yours and your family's mental health depends totally on the decision you make as difficult as it may be. You can and should love your parents and grandparents but please believe me that, yourself and your husband and children COMES FIRST regardless..... Please don't think I'm being harsh. Blessed evening all.

[@cooperjackson4348]

Please, PROTECT your kids at ALL cost!!! We ❤️ our parents and grandparents, but our children count on us to care and nurture them. IF, they truly ❤️ YOU and their grandchildren NOT the organization they will respect you and your husband's wishes. Life's to short and precious to be wasted any longer!!! You will be fine, you have your babies and a husband that supports you, please don't allow this organization or others to rob you and yours of the precious time you have left with your children. They grow up so fast, cherish them while you still can. Wishing you and your family the absolute best. #ONELIFE2LIVE #YOURLIFE #YOURFAMILY

[@southernsal3113]

My heart just bleeds for this gentle lady. I do hope she finds her way out.

[@twilightingX]

I think disassociating would be a mistake and the kids being indoctrinated shouldn’t be a concern. They should just slowly faded. I faded when my kids where young. But they have grown up having full contact with their believing father, Elder grandfather and pioneer grandma’s. I even encouraged them to be respectful when grandad talked about JW stuff and when they pray at meal times. But I also taught them how to make it clear in a respectful way, if they didn’t want to talk about it. I told my children all I could and exposed them to the real truth about the organisation. I wanted them to hear both sides and decide for themselves. My daughter even studied for a short time when she was about 13. My only rule was I would not allow her to become a publisher if she ever decided to. I said she could make her own choice when she turned 18. She never wanted to. I was pretty sure they would choose not to not be JW’s. There’s way too much material out there debunking what the org says and if they ever came home with questions. I would show them the truth. My elder ex father in law and mother in law are lovely people and have bought so much to my children lives. Their dad too. Much more than JW talk. Which was minimum. My children are now 24 and 22 and both none believers, obviously 😀

[@JohnandMary1971]

I was picturing sitting down and laying down " ground rules" for the family to visit their children. It reminded me of Jade sitting down and laying down " ground rules" to her Mother in the 2022 covention. It is a terrible situation. I feel that moving away is their best way to deal with it, and start their new life. It was how we kept my Mother in Law from ruining our life.

[@gratefultobehere]

This situation is so difficult all the way around. Listen to your instincts - you're right inside of YOU.

[@seniorsergeanttomcroydon6401]

Ah... I stopped going to Catholic church when I was about 22... became agnostic at 23 and atheist at 25... when I was 26 I got a nice Christmas card from mum talking about why I should go back 🤣. Now 41.... no regrets whatsoever... logic trumps unquestioning religious doctrine everytime...

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@b.w.7588]

If the caller is able to, I hope she might seek help from a mental health professional if this issue is causing her unnecessary psychological and emotional stress. Unfortunately, she's in a tough spot. Her husband apparently doesn't have a very good relationship with his JW relatives, while she has a very close relationship with her own JW relatives. She doesn't want her children having any further exposure to the Jehovah's Witness faith but is worried that if she left the JW denomination entirely, it might seriously aggravate her grandmother's health. I think it's a possible scenario that if she and her husband were to become inactive in the faith, the caller's parents or her grandmother might try to take the children to meetings at their Kingdom Hall as well as attempt to indoctrinate her children themselves because they feel that the grandchildren and great-grandchildren's "eternal lives" are being jeopardized. I hope the caller is able to ponder these issues further because they do require careful consideration.

[@farcenter]

She's not " killing her grandma" by leaving. Yes it sucks, yes it's no one's fault, but you gotta save the kids not your grandma

[@Markypoo-poo-8-Beans]

Love these voicemail videos Lloyd, keep them coming

[@skippy1012]

Do not dissociate.. Just fade...

[@cmotherofpirl]

Lloyd, you are a good man.

[@Ianm3247]

In my opinion, stick to the fade option, just act spiritually weak, say you're getting your meetings online, don't react when your family start witnessing to you, my friend advised me to keep it as the elephant in the room, say as little as possible. My mom has been doubling down recently, she has took it on herself to inform me about how wonderful the meetings are even though I haven't mentioned it. I really have to bite my lip but it's not worth the hassle.

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

Try to keep your good attitude though. Pray all the time about. Jesus can do the hardest part you can't. Pray specially before talking to her.

[@tiiatuuli339]

It shouldnt be this hard, protect your kids. ❤ I´m shunned my mom, and all JWs i knew all my life it sucks, it hurts, but its the costs of to be free of that cult its worth of it. Its your life and your kids life that matters.

[@gisella1350]

The truth of the matter is that our parents need to let go, they had their chance to make their own decisions through ought their life. Now it is your turn to decide for our own life. Unfortunately, this religion is full of meddling through fear and guilt. Be strong, claim your life back, you are the one in control of your life not other people. I can not think of anything worse than being forced to behave a certain way just to please other people. Drop words, hints to your family, ask questions, Don't give them one big shock. Bring up the Royal commission. All the very best. Thank you Lloyd.

[@chroniclesoflucifer]

3rd Gen born in here, baptized at 17 yr, pomo. My youngest brother was baptized at 12 yrs old. Then he was disfellowshipped at 19 yrs old for smoking marijuana. My parents say that my brother was df'ed because he broke the state law. But my brother did not get caught, he actually confessed. My brother's attitude is that he was kicked out of my perents' religion. My parents pretend like they do not shun my baby brother. My brother moved on with his life, got married and had kids. When my neice was about 4 or 5 years old my parents tried to take her to the KH without my brother's permission. That caused my sister-in-law (not a jw) to flip out, rightly so. My brother never thought that my parents could be so deceitful. So my advice is to set boundaries now for your children. If your goal is to allow your children to seek out their own religion, then try not to make the JWs taboo either. Its hard to believe that our parents are trapped in this religion. ❤ My compassion goes out to your caller. I was in a very similar situation decades ago, I had to walk away from my family in order to raise my kids in a safe environment. As adults, my children figured out who my parents are. But they were never grandparents to my children.

[@wendyh2708]

The caller needs to realize she/hubby are going to have to make an incredibly difficult decision. What is more important? Your children or your parents and Grandmother? Your husband and children are your family that MUST come first. I know which I'd choose.

[@toriwolf5978]

Did the governing body make themselves a nice new GOLD bible lol just noticed it in one of the talks ? Why do they need new gold bibles for them lol

[@ellengarr9781]

Fading has its own struggles, but still I am glad that is the road I chose. I have a friend who now, 40 years later still cries over her parents still not talking to her because she chose different road.

[@moriah1202]

I think a question you could ask yourself is: what value is your parents relationship in your life right now? Is it worth it to compromise so much for your own family and children to preserve the relationship with your parents?

[@AnayhiasMimi]

Oh boy they are kind of trapped

[@noonespecial5517]

Forgive me for asking but how do people call in? I would like to but am not good with tech and can't figure out how to find the #???

[@markmello1366]

How about you say you’re gonna go to a foreign language group?

[@user-ce8tr1ex2m]

Your situation is not as bad as it seems to you. You think you have to choose between your kid & your grandma when you can have both. Your parents might want to shun you but I bet they’d still would want to have a relationship with your kids. And you can use it as a leverage. They agree not to cause any troubles you let them see your kid. When it comes to your grandma, I assume she’s of a very old age & her health is fragile. Does she attend meetings herself? Because if not, you can make a deal with your parents to simply keep her out of all of it for the sake of her health. You love her, they love her, you can both agree it’s not something she should worry about. So they agree not to bother her with u leaving JW, you agree to play it cool in front of her like if you’re still JW. I would also sit down with the kids & put my best efforts into explaining them what’s going on. What you’re going through is potentially a religious divorce with extended family. Kids are a part of it. They shouldn’t feel guilty or if it was none of their business. If you can’t figure out how to explain it to kids get some advice from a kids psychologist. Wishing you best of luck

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

Very healthy and sound suggestion!!!

[@pamelaruth7400]

But that sacrifices the chikdren to a potential covert indoctrination from their grandparents.

[@DrOldhen]

Hey, Mom, Dad, Grandma, I want you to see 1 of the Gov. Body Defend Jahs Organization with the AU ROYAL COMMISSION. See the Anointed doing God's work. Think of a few things that will be brought out (unknowingly to them) See how the Anointed take this on. Then maybe "WAKE UP" while it is going. Show where that or this is not what they said before. HOW MANY?? THEY WILL SEE IT. THEN FLOAT ALONG. This makes them just as guilty!

[@pamelaruth7400]

PS to the caller would you want your children to base making this detrimental life decision on whether to be a jw on your mothers potential emotional reaction to it.

[@b.w.7588]

I don't blame Lloyd and Dijana for setting their foot down when it comes to Dijana's JW parents trying to indoctrinate Jessica into believing Jehovah's Witness doctrine. They might attempt to do the same thing with Lloyd and Dijana's younger daughter, Julia, when she gets older. I just hope that the caller of Voicemail no. 142 will be able to one day come to a decision that will benefit her, her husband and their children. I wish them the best of luck--just as I do with Lloyd, Dijana, Jessica, and Julia.

[@1stvivification70]

Either way she will suffer. She could stay a witness and allow her husband to be the bad guy. He disassociates and make the brothers know that he doesn’t want his children indoctrinated. She stays married to him and play the victim until she can’t take going to the meetings anymore. Just have a happy home life.

[@MikeGz92]

I think Lloyd is right. I know that it's terrible, but if you have to choice between past (your grandma) and future (your kids), it's more rational invest on the future, on your kids. Sorry for saying that. I'm not a parent so I can't understand your situation. That is only my personal opinion.

[@markprovan4332]

You're living a lie. I did it we all did it. I had the opposite situation, my grandmother [not a JW] told me not to leave the org because it would kill my father. So, I didn't, until I was 34. I am now 60 loving life, travel and my academic achievements. I wish I had followed my heart and left earlier to become a MD; however, I made up for lost time and followed a different academic path. I decided long ago to stop making decisions based on emotions, ill-informed opinions and the determinations of others. Watch the brilliant movie 'In Time' to readjust one's concept of time and living. Cheers.

[@RvdR-14]

For all brothers and sisters(Matthew12:50For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.” )in the will of God that are in a similar situation; This is the time to drop the silence as it will be like a clear cluster bomb, in peace and love. From the other site of view; This Organisation(falshood) will get silenced in shame, BE NO PART OF IT!Be a christian! For the ones, beloved brothers and sisters, still in there faith under the false teachers; Preach the Word of God, the greater sin is for those who are responsible, but yes, you will join the shame. (Hebrews 12:11 True, no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but it is painful; yet afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.) 1 Peter 2:19For it is agreeable when someone endures hardship and suffers unjustly because of conscience toward God. Galatians 5:22,23 On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. Luke 12:48 But the one who did not understand and yet did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him.

[@racevanandros2916]

AT SOME POINT WE ALL HAVE TO LET THE DEAD BURRY THEIR DEAD

[@racevanandros2916]

Bredren PLEASE do not give up on Abba/Christ becuz many others do. "The two powers in the heavens," (Dr. Michael Heiser) helped me out and to bear under satanic harassment, a STARRING role in a snuff film. (come to find its COMMON/typical demonic fear mongering of the dark lords💛🦁👍🏼

[@vilettabyrd546]

I know it's easier said than done but family should stop shunning their loved ones and watchtower would not be able to put out everyone for people are leaving in droves already we really have no time lloyd and we waste enough already

[@jacquiarchambault2581]

I woke up two years ago and became a Born Again Christian. All I can tell you is choose Jesus. God tells us to choose this day whom you shall serve. I know it's hard but Jesus is calling you out of a cult before it's too late. God wants us to put Him over man. Make this a matter of prayer.

[@Chandler27]

You left one cult for another though...

[@dancingnature]

That depends Chandler , not all religions are narcissistic controllers like the JWs are. My church doesn’t do these horrible emotionally abusive things

[@bortgov8624]

Any "loving God"would not demand worship or blind faith of his children with the threat of hell or annhilation.

[@cooperjackson4348]

Exactly 💯, sorry NOT a God I want to serve.

[@elexododelostestigosdejeho8161]

At least new born Cristian don't shun

[@michaelwinkler7841]

Might sound hard but take it as an opportunity to grow up. Of course it‘s nice to have a good relationship with our parents during our entire life. But if we can’t let go even under such circumstances, it might be a sign of immaturity.

[@RvdR-14]

It is hard, incase of the weaker vessel, the feminine one

[@gambotage]

Stand your ground. Your parents also need to wake up to the idea that being a JW ISN’T the only way to live. Its extremely narrow minded. You’ll probably be shunned but you’ll have to bear the news and take a stand for what you believe (in as they teach). If they’re the generational type worried about their name they also need to come down off their high horse. JWs ARENT special… best of luck

[@abdielgaldamez7393]

Loyd Jehova God exist loyd he took me to heaven as teenager why should I fallow your lies you and ex jw fallowers those who leave God to fallow another human are crazy

[@UndercoverScambaiter]

And what lies did Lloyd day in this video?

[@harambetidepod1451]

You're playing with fire.

[@dandretwoodard]

My advice... Just do it. Life is all about losing people we love. give up on those willing to give up on you, for any reason. After I left I've developed a cold view on situations like this. I have one aunt who still spends time with me and that's it, out of hundreds of people I met. Those that love you will stay. For people leaving any religion I always recommend reading "The practicing stoic" by ward Farnsworth. Good luck