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[@Marchant2]

I think the caller is icky. Do I get to curtail that caller's freedoms now?

[@Magnusfication]

Yes

[@BaronVonQuiply]

No, don't be silly. You have to invent a religion first, then you're good to go. I happen to be legally recognized as clergy in the united states and- OMG! Look! A seagull! Bam! You're a priest now. Nothing you can do about it either (or maybe there is, the law is on meth when it comes to religions, just for example, all of the above is true, except the seagull. I did lie about that.)

[@muadhib001]

100%

[@prestokrevlar]

Sure.

[@ekipogh]

I vote yes

[@Rage867]

Ain't no hate like christian love.

[@TheSkrobert]

The only thing Brojo taught me is how aggressively unlikeable he is.

[@vlastermaster]

right... LMAO

[@oxidize11]

He's indoctrinated, what do you expect

[@Nerobyrne]

I bet he's gay and mad that no man will love him 😂

[@Balfour.]

Never got to understand why religious people are so obsessed with sex. It seems to me it all boils down to a problem of resentment towards other people's enjoyment.

[@radiorebel8223]

I place the blame in the text obviously pushing for ppl to raise kids in the faith, since it’s harder to get someone out of faith the sooner you start them in it, and the early stages of the faith they were taking the over other places, so of course they needed soldiers for that

[@tekbarrier]

Some of the earliest mythological beliefs in human history revolved around fertility, so being obsessed with sex and reproduction is something that goes back all the way to the beginning of religion

[@kathykiger7548]

Sex is very personal. And if religion can control your sexual thoughts and activity, they can control everything else too.

[@nikhtzatzi]

Not even that, their mind just races with sexual thoughts, a reault of a strict upbringing or a self lost somewhere on the road, resulting in believing that anyone can keep on living like them swallowing and burying anything deep in them. So in a sense, is lack of sympathy for one that is not the same as them

[@CLPanda98]

Gay gen z here, 25 and happily married to the man of my dreams. I do not have aids, neither does he, nor does any gay person I've ever met or am currently friends with. Also the number of HIV infections among gay men in the west has been steadily declining for decades, with a cure literally on the horizon.

[@A-WallfromAL]

Straight GenX here, 54, and I’m grateful you and your partner can live happily together. I’d be your friend way before I’d want to hang out with Brother Brojo.

[@themanwithnoname1839]

​@@A-WallfromALthat would be husband, partner is so vague, what if i think you meant partner at work? Now if you say husband as the legal contract literally says husband lmfao it wouldnt and couldnt be misinterpreted lmfao rofl say what you mean, and mean what you say..... Or dont and be misinterpreted

[@A-WallfromAL]

@@themanwithnoname1839 I used a generic term because the OP did not use a specific term, mkay? Not everyone uses the traditional “husband” or “wife.” And I think from the context I was obviously referring to the OP’s spouse. If he prefers I use “husband,” fine. This was not an attempt to downgrade the legitimacy of his marriage.

[@Arquea_Lucus_Wolven]

@@themanwithnoname1839 If you are confused, you can ask, or you can infer based on the context of their comment. Saying "...I’m grateful you and your partner can *live happily together* " implies living together. Sure you can have roommates or friends who live together, but it's rare you'd refer to them as a partner. "Partner" is just a partner, partner ;)

[@hansj5846]

Religion has completely broken his brain. There's nothing left😢😢😢

[@thepanda1044]

His brain is now 💩

[@AGodlessLife]

He always hated homosexuality. Religion was simply the vehicle that allowed him to justify it.

[@somersetcace1]

Victimless behaviour between two consenting adults is no ones business but their own. indoctrinating children into a religious ideology that convinces them to judge people based on arbitrary and archaic ideas, is `icky.`

[@williammeyer214]

Excellent

[@o24735]

Amen. Beautiful comment.

[@mrcurly1147]

Maybe they should focus on cleaning up their own house first. Get the perverts in the pulpit - OUT! Then we talk.

[@robinwood4977]

@@LordOfThePancakes The only depravity & wickedness being brought into society comes from religion. Gay people make the world a brighter and happier place for everyone who hasn't been filled with hate.

[@somersetcace1]

@@LordOfThePancakes I agree! It's one thing to indoctrinate your own children into a depraved religious ideology, but when you try to indoctrinate other people's children, then yeah, that's a problem.

[@yvito125]

If thought crimes were enforced, we'd all be in jail, weirdo 😂😂

[@ivie2230]

Reminded me of the movie Minority Report. 😂

[@Thedrunkape96]

The idea for a homosexual of being with somebody of the opposite sex is icky to them, too. I'm straight, and if someone forced me to be with another man, I'd feel icky. Forcing homosexual people to be straight is icky because we're forcing them to be something they're not, which is uncomfortable and icky for them.

[@faelheavymetal]

That was an amazing way to put it.

[@Thedrunkape96]

@@faelheavymetal That's how I've always thought about it. Thank you for your comment.

[@oxidize11]

And people think that what's icky for them is icky for everyone, and they don't realize that everyone has different thoughts and preferences.

[@johnathanstevens8436]

I don't know how many times I've heard Christians say, "they can just marry the opposite sex" .. like you're not getting it .. they don't FALL IN LOVE with the opposite sex, they aren't attracted to the opposite sex .. to ask someone to live with a spouse in a platonic only relationship where both partners are frustrated is a big ask..

[@Thedrunkape96]

@johnathanstevens8436 I've also heard that "being gay is a choice." Nobody chooses to be gay. Especially back in times when gay people were stoned to death. But, there's nothing wrong with being gay. It's a completely natural part of some people's identity.

[@PorcelainLeigh]

One’s sexual preferences are none of your business. PERIOD.

[@hunkallgood73]

It is if someone's a pedophile and acts on their urges.

[@signwriter1]

No Harm no foul - be free to love who you want. Bigots are not living in the accepted world, I love and recieve love for being lovely. Excuse my English spelling from being UK English - One Love.

[@seekeroftruth6728]

Freedom exists for everyone, whether you like it or not. People are free to love who they want, and people are allowed to think that's gross. This is the biggest problem with the left... opinions and freedom are only permitted if they perfectly align with YOUR ideologies. That's not freedom. That's tyranny.

[@seekeroftruth6728]

I generally agree with you, but lately colleges have been cranking out some pretty nutso teachers who are imposing their very far left agendas and ideologies onto children, discussing seggsual topics that they have no business talking to kids about. In that case, it becomes our business.

[@davidgreen6490]

BS! One is entitled to an opinion about anything and should be allowed to express that opinion. Leftism is pretty disgusting when you actually think about it..

[@Mark73]

I think coffee is "icky" but I don't want to stop anyone else from drinking it.

[@davidgreen6490]

I dont remember him saying he wanted to stop anyone else from being gay..

[@youtubenightcrawler9571]

​@@davidgreen6490he said being gay is unjustified, ergo should b3 stopped

[@romulovinhas5725]

Heretic 😂😂

[@davidgreen6490]

@@youtubenightcrawler9571 HUH? How does unjustified mean it should be stopped? A - He said "not rationally justified", hes right there, homosexuality in a heterosexual speices of course cannot be rationally justified. B - Justified means having a legitimate reason for, it has nothing to do with being "stopped" or otherwise. Leftists are so desperate to scream and cry they dont stop to check whether they are actually "justified" in their reactions..

[@dougwalters8003]

Ya better not! *drinks coffee*

[@EnclaveAgent]

It's amazing how guys like this say shit with such confidence, like they really think they are smart lol

[@MooseMaunu]

And the irony is their claims and assertions are not their own. They're copied or reread from other toxic bigots. Case in point, "Brojo" is a well known Darth Dawkins sycophant, a person that is the textbook definition of the Dunning Kruger Effect.

[@A-WallfromAL]

@@MooseMaunuAnd with a handle like “Brojo” … am I wrong in my assumptions? Apparently not.

[@kpk1958]

The title should have been: "Caller can't differentiate between thought and action." Religious indoctrination almost exclusively has the worldwide franchise on growing these types of brains...yet is still legally protected.

[@ArlecchinoAKAFather]

The caller has never heard of intrusive thoughts before. People think horrible things all the time like "what if I jumped on the tracks?" But then they don't act on those thoughts

[@Rusticrogue17]

I think the vast majority of us have fucked up intrusive thoughts regularly. we just passively dismiss them because we know that acting on them would be harmful to ourselves or others.

[@Nerobyrne]

I think that those might be an adaptation to train our brain in decision making. Maybe not but I wonder about stuff like that 😅

[@BearDawl]

@@Rusticrogue17 yeah. It’s literally how we survive. It’s like our mental/moral echo ation. Like how bats find their way through the darkness by sensing frequencies,. They might sense a wall off to the left, and that would be bad for them to fly into. So they do not do it. Now, There was a possibility where the bat would’ve hit the wall, and that would’ve been bad. But the bat didn’t do that because the bat used its morals or echopation Thus the bat gets to live one more day or is rewarded or however, you want to come back to reality and connect it to the issue of pedophilia or mass murder

[@FlushGorgon]

People jump on tracks all the time. What's wrong with hurdling ?

[@BearDawl]

@@Rusticrogue17 I would wholeheartedly agree with this

[@Despondencymusic]

The magic word with sex or even anything that involves other people is "consent".

[@MrChiddler]

Consent isn't quite as simple as you seem to think. The line between informed enthusiastic consent and uninformed grudging consent is a blurry one - how many drinks is too many for consent to be valid? - as is the age between adult and minor (which varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction).

[@Despondencymusic]

@MrChiddler You're correct, but it's the best place to start.

[@muadhib001]

Right wing religious people don't care about consent

[@KochDerDamonen]

@@MrChiddler That's literally day 1 consent talk. No one said it was simple, and your condescending description does not run counter to what was said.

[@Doe174]

Caller: homosexuality makes no sense Me: prostate org.....never mind😅

[@jens2old2care]

Kudos to them being able to handle callers like this. I'm sitting here, blood boiling, heart racing, wishing I could reach through space and time at that guy.

[@petermeichan3160]

the callers from Arkansas, they are still stuck in the 1500's so relax, take a breath

[@vestafreyja]

​@@petermeichan3160 More like 1500 BCE.

[@Seticzech]

Backwarded brainwashed indoctrinated ignorant. No need to wreck your nerves. 🙂

[@petermeichan3160]

@@vestafreyja as athiests i think we should have are own BC/AD like BZ/AZ

[@froloket]

But you're not acting on it, so you're morally superior!

[@stevenmeyer9674]

Brojo has some self doubts-loathing about his own sexuality. Pretty obvious.

[@jackwaycombe]

They always think they have a new flex. They're always pathetically wrong.

[@JamesTKirkland]

How so give some examples. Just because somebody desires to do something in society it doesn't mean they have the right to do so. If homosexual sex between two men do too much harm to society how can it be morally justified and if it can't be morally justified why should it be legal

[@lukesmithasada]

@@JamesTKirkland First you have to demonstrate what harm they do. Bet ya can't.

[@Emperorhirohito19272]

⁠@@JamesTKirklandit does 0 harm to society so doesn’t need justification

[@istvansipos9940]

@@JamesTKirkland " If homosexual sex between two men do too much harm to society..." that's a huge IF. The floor is yours to demonstrate the evidence. Should enough % of our decision makers agree, they will limit those rights. it will be like the speed limit. Because driving above a certain speed has been DEMONSTRATED to affect society in a harmful way. by the way, morals often don't have anything to do with legal matters. see the speed limit again. Driving 1 km/h above it is not immoral. It is "only" illegal.

[@gazza595]

@@JamesTKirkland What you're proposing is that peoples conduct of their lives, when they are doing nothing that impacts anybody else requires YOUR personal approval. Can you not see how screwed up that is? If granted how would you accept someone else imposing unwarranted control over your life?

[@sergehychko3659]

Wow. The caller was like an old man falling down a flight of stairs. In this case instead of hitting every stair on the way down, this person hit every Daily Wire / Libs of Tik Tok made up accusation to go along with the perennial stupid assertions.

[@learningisfun2108]

Great comment! Truly funny. 😂

[@lockedonlaw]

I am not now nor have I ever been a homosexual but what other people do, or, rather, who other people do, is no concern of mine.

[@SpaceCattttt]

Unless they do it to you without your permission. I would presume. Then again, maybe not? Maybe that's what you want? Not for me to say.

[@marblecar1162]

@@SpaceCattttt ah, the classic "gay people are all r@pists" trope. are you from the 1950s? anyways, studies have shown that there is no known correlation to being gay or lesbian, and r@pe.

[@Maxrepfitgm]

I think onions are disgusting so let me get in power and legislate that for everybody else. 🙄

[@Thedrunkape96]

I hate pickles, so everybody should hate pickles too.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

I don't have any problems with onions personally, but why can't they just act like apples in public?

[@Thedrunkape96]

If I were president of the world, pickles would be illegal because I don't like them, haha.

[@AXKfUN9m]

@@Thedrunkape96 Don't hate the pickle hate the brine.

[@JamesTKirkland]

Homosexuality shouldn't be illegal simply because people find it repulsive. I find many things repulsive that I don't think should be illegal. I believe homosexual sex is immoral. I can make an argument from a legal standpoint because homosexual sex does too much harm to society. If onions offered no nourishment and because people to become severely sick get a virus and it was extremely expensive to the taxpayer to pay for that medicine there's an argument to be made that eating onions shouldn't be legal.

[@MooseMaunu]

Hey "Brojo" if you're using christianity to determine how you treat your fellow human beings, what other Bronze Age beliefs or customs do you use to navigate a modern society?

[@paul.c.gregory]

There is no hate like christian love.

[@EdithBromfeld]

There is no love like perverted men pounding the pooper.

[@sideboob6851]

​@@EdithBromfeld You don't need to worry about what consenting adults do in privacy, cLied.

[@EdithBromfeld]

@@sideboob6851 I don't. Just don't pretend it's marriage. Why should we overturn the foundation of human civilization to accommodate sexual deviances? Society is in collapse because of permissiveness gutting the family unit. Not just homosexual marriage, but all trashing of sexual and gender morality. Feminism is an even bigger disaster, for example. Idiotic ideas have real consequences.

[@sideboob6851]

​@@EdithBromfeld Hate also harms society as a whole. Religion is full of that.

[@AXKfUN9m]

@@EdithBromfeld Stop fantasizing about gay couples and showing it on youtube, there's sites for that.

[@ibringit987]

My favorite kind of argument, honestly. 'Homosexuality CAN'T be rationally justified if I just constantly compare it to things that aren't analogous.' The Beastiality and pedophile comparisons are always a clear indicator that the person making the comparison themselves doesn't know *why* they have an issue with gay relationships, only that they intuitively think of them as 'icky'.

[@StanSwan]

Not to mention over 95% of pedophilias are straight men related to the victim.

[@robhaskins]

And they think that somehow "gayness" usually leads to pederasty, or in some formulations, WILL lead to pederasty (under the assumption that gays want to create more gays, so the only way to do that is psychosexually)-scary stuff.

[@seekeroftruth6728]

Analogous?

[@ibringit987]

@seekeroftruth6728 woops! Thanks for the correction. Hadn't even noticed the mistake.

[@simonvetter2420]

Yeah, when they hung up I was kind of wondering whether they could have gotten to the root of why the caller had that position eventually if they had somehow kept digging, but even if that would have worked as a conversation (which I doubt), there probably IS no core, as you say. It's just brainwashing-induced bigotry with some fallacious excuses haphazardly propped around it.

[@smochygrice465]

The smell of Brussel sprouts gives me the ick 🤢 And a good Saturday Morning 🌞 AXP, Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🤠👍

[@markhaunert5029]

It's amazing with Human sexuality being extremely complex yet people with no education in the field have it figured out. 🙄

[@robhaskins]

Or let's say, "Inadequate education." He doesn't sound completely uneducated. Can't agree with him, tho.

[@markhaunert5029]

@@robhaskins I fixed it for you 👍

[@robhaskins]

@@markhaunert5029 Thank you. I'm too optimistic, I admit.

[@markhaunert5029]

@@robhaskins 😀✌️

[@davidgreen6490]

Everyone gets education in sexuality, be it from your parents or schooling. If you havent had any then your parents have failed you..

[@ronthered138]

I was not aware of a "rational justification" for straight sex, or even monogamy.

[@TheMahayanist]

I can't imagine that heterosexual sex is all that different than homosexual sex, despite only having done one.

[@spiritzion]

as a person who did both, its not

[@robhaskins]

@@spiritzion Some parts and movements may be exchanged. 🤣

[@jamezkpal2361]

Your results may vary.

[@clivesmith9377]

Icky?!?!? I kissed a boy, I liked it! 😘

[@hannotn]

I've done way more than that, and I really liked it.

[@ursidae97]

The taste of his monster energy drink 😜

[@CGB_Crash]

Brojo is one of those guys that'll say he has gay friends, but if you actually ask the gay people in his life I'd bet hard cash they wouldn't agree.

[@istvansipos9940]

"I am not a homophobe, but..." - brojo

[@henriccarlsson9052]

Amazing to see you guys still going! I have watched you for 10+ years with a 4-5 year gap. Lovely to see you again.

[@nicolab2075]

You've got me curious about the gap 😅

[@henriccarlsson9052]

@@nicolab2075 kinda forgot about it 😂

[@clivesmith9377]

Homosexuality naturally appears in thousands of animals, birds and insects.

[@dennisd3258]

And conversely, religiosity only appears in one 🤔

[@learningisfun2108]

Yup. That blows up the “it’s unnatural” argument. I learned about this 30 years ago when I was in university. It should be common knowledge now but people like to stick their heads in the sand with ideas they don’t like.

[@MrChiddler]

insects? I think thats a reach - insects don't have what we would recongise as sexuality.

[@kissit012]

@@MrChiddleryour diminutive opinion on another organism doesnt exclude them from the discussion. Many insects have mating rituals which means they have consent and preferences

[@elgringo1893]

​@@MrChiddler Sexuality is just a description of what kind of sex an organism desires to get involved with in this context.

[@renedekker9806]

Having negative thoughts about homosexuals is fine, he just should not have acted on them.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

What is it about some people who concern themselves with grown, consenting adults sexual preferences? Mind your own business.

[@diogeneslamp8004]

Toddlers who dislike their vegetables not only won’t eat them but can’t even stand seeing them on their plate. Brojo is no different.

[@gabe6646]

Excellent ending to that call lol

[@thomastrinkle2294]

I’d have loved to have asked him “Do you think two adults having consensual sex is the same as someone raping a child?”

[@barrythomson899]

Another masterful caller.

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

The only reason why something that has nothing to do with someone affects them so much as to say it gives them the ick, and provokes them to even legislate accordingly, is if in the back of their minds it *does* affect them because they are in an eternal struggle with themselves against it, all the while the shame and resentment causes them to lash out.

[@istvansipos9940]

"...because they are in an eternal struggle with themselves against it," that. Or they are professionals. Many people talk about all these "wicked" things to manipulate others. Wanna lead ignorant masses? Give them a target. Then, for obvious reasons, they pick a minority, NOT a majority as their target. Oh, and if you find a h0ly b00k supporting your rhetoric, even better. And by "better" I mean: more efficient. Nothing new.

[@amtlpaul]

I find bigotry icky. Far more importantly, it does actual harm to people. People are still bullied, attacked, and even killed because their 'queerness' is an excuse for thuggish enforcers to indulge their sadism.

[@davidstorrs]

What is the rational justification for HETEROsexuality?

[@krisaaron5771]

This. ESPECIALLY as our species is breeding itself into destroying the only home we've ever had.

[@DatDude04]

Idk, weenie in da pussi?

[@JimCastleberry]

Nature. Design. Utility. Survival benefit. Amazing this needs an explanation.

[@DatDude04]

@@JimCastleberry I was joking with that comment

[@GoodBrotherGrimm]

​@@JimCastleberryNice buzzwords.

[@johnosborne3187]

I think closed-minded bigots are icky.

[@darksoul479]

This telephone caller thinks people should be convicted of thought crimes. Unbelievable.

[@makesnodifference]

About what you can expect from someone who worships a celestial fascist dictator

[@RichardRoy2]

I think he's hung up on "if it happens in your mind, it is as the act" or something like that.

[@gottfriedosterbach3907]

Christian guilt complexes, it is what happens when you think a Santa sky daddy knows all and judges everything.

[@CascadianPatriotII]

It's the logic of Matthew 5.27-28.

[@RichardRoy2]

@@CascadianPatriotII That's the one. Convincing people of that keeps the church stocked with "sinners." Probably the kind of thing that made those soldiers able to pull the trigger. "They gotta be as guilty of sin as I am..."

[@blackwolfe638]

bro-ho is a terrible person, and NOT SMART ENOUGH FOR THE CONVERSATION.

[@frankjspencejr]

Generally agree, and certainly agree that we don’t choose our thoughts, but whether or not you choose to act on them is also a thought. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take issue with the action, and not the thought as you say the action is what causes harm. The absence of free will does not argue for the absence of consequences.

[@RubberMammy]

Coming to a cinema near you, Brojo Mountain.

[@vidfreak56]

The teachings of Jesus made him believe all of this. If looking at a woman with lust = commiting adultery then its no surprise that he thinks thinking about a child with lust means youre commiting child rape. In reality the two can never be the same.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

The caller clearly has never thought to question what his Unconscious (see Dual Process Theory) tells him to think to get to their own ends.

[@ShyyGaladriel]

Wow. That guy got so snooty towards the end. 😂

[@bunnybismuth]

The moment I saw the thumbnail I was like "ah fuck, it's one of Brojob's calls" Sadly, I was right.

[@amtlpaul]

Brojo's personal tastes should not have anything to do with what other people are allowed to do.

[@hplovehandle]

This guy is a classic Dunning/Kruger case.

[@leswatts8422]

Brojo is in the closet sniffing the the pain of repression.

[@darksoul479]

We have no control over what thoughts pop into our heads.

[@Seticzech]

I KNOW homophobia is icky.

[@robhaskins]

I'd like to rob a bank, but I will not act on this. Why is this so difficult? I think it has to do that with many brands of Christianity, the thought of committing "evil things" is just as bad-that verse about desiring my neighbor's spouse and all that.

[@learningisfun2108]

Ya, I think in one of the gospels, Jesus says something like, “if you lust for your neighbour’s wife, you have already committed the sin”. I’ve always had a problem with thought crime. I wonder if Jesus ever said these words. Maybe he wanted to warn people about dwelling on bad thoughts as that might increase the chance that we act on those thoughts.

[@ijaygee1]

@@learningisfun2108 I doubt Jesus ever existed, let alone said half the things the religious nutters/authors attribute to 'him'. The simple fact is, creating 'thought crime', is how religions exercise power over people's lives - and turn them into unthinking/unquestioning zombies like Brojo.

[@sleepingwyvern]

no that is bad too even if only desire my therapist always train me to focus and hone emotions and desires. what you say is bad desire and you should also practice to get rid of it.

[@robhaskins]

@@sleepingwyvern Who said I did anything?

[@JewsieJay]

@@sleepingwyvern No, either your therapist is bad or you are. "what you say is a bad desire... practice to get rid of it" don't police someone's thoughts when they've clearly said they won't act on them and they realize it's just a thought. Every person has bad thoughts, the best way to handle it is to let thoughts pass(do not act on thoughts which lead to harm) and you move on. Fixating on getting rid of bad thoughts does NOT help, if I tell you not to think about the word "elephant" you will start to think about it. This "practice" to rid of thoughts is not dissimilar to some people's OCD.

[@davidpatterson2178]

Never heard so much ignorant callers. This is unreal. A city full of cults, No wonder That Country is a mess.

[@darksoul479]

I went through a time in my life long ago that I had all kinds of horrible thoughts, but I never acted on any of them thank goodness. PS. I'm a completely different person now. All those bad thoughts are long gone.

[@halwasserman7905]

I get that this is several years old but it's not forty years old. In the 1980's people talked like this guy relative to homosexuality and AIDS. To think there are people in the 21st century who view gay men as AIDS spreading machines is amazing.

[@theriffwriter2194]

People often accuse the screeners of picking the dumbest callers so it's easy to embarrass them but everyone states, and I believe, that whoever calls get on the air as long as they have an interesting topic. Theist getting priority. Anyway: judging from the voice alone of, like the past 8 videos I've seen, at least on the theist side, it seems this channel is really popular with boys in their early teens. Needless to say wiping the floor with them seems pretty easy.

[@ursidae97]

The smart ones seem to be terrified of this show

[@LillyTheLonelySock]

Whenever I come across people like Brojo from Arkansas, I want to ask them what they would do if they discovered that, in the Bible, God forbids his people from wearing the colour red. If God declares that wearing *RED* is an abomination and people who do so should be put to death, is wearing red morally wrong and harmful to society? Also, what happens when people of a similar religion claim that wearing *BLUE* is an immoral abomination?

[@Gamy45]

this is pretty much the exact thing i came up with after thinking longer about why i don't like these types of religious people and about why homosexuality is fine down to the t shirt thing, although in my example it was only the color blue

[@hannotn]

But it does forbid them wearing clothes of more than one fibre and I doubt that any more than about 1% of Christians would adhere to that one, so they're fairly selective about what they follow.

[@lukesmithasada]

@@hannotn imagine if Christians protested as much outside of Red Lobsters as they did drag shows.

[@LillyTheLonelySock]

@@hannotn I know there are clothing laws in the Bible, but those laws don't declare that breaking them is an abomination and breaking them isn't punishable by death. As far as I know they are not considered "moral laws." I want to know what people would do if such a thing was considered a moral law -- would they expect their government to make wearing red illegal? Would they expect people who wear red to be immoral people who will corrupt their children?

[@nsf001-3]

3:00 The "right" thing, as if he thinks he made a good argument to start with and was moving on to his next good argument, is just so ridiculously solipsistic. He only called in to hear himself talk

[@SpaceCattttt]

I remember Brajo. He's the master of the insincere "Right...". Just another one-track mind.

[@seraeirian2]

These guys are just upset because they get semis when they see Brad Pitt. It's ok. He's a good looking dude.

[@blkdadintx]

Right! They think that it is possible to be turned gay bc they are bi-curious.

[@michaelnelson3752]

Me thinks the caller protests too much.........

[@vercoda9997]

Here in Ireland, I happen to know one of the country's (Republic) top HIV specialists; the vast majority of cases continue to be in heterosexual people, with a significant cohort presenting from people from a Sub-Saharan background, while junkies comprise another major propoertion. I suspect the caller isn't going to call heterosexuals morally wrong for mostly neing responsible for HIV transmission, however.

[@donaldsmith7824]

Best reason; reduces production of connon fodder necessary to military industrial profits.

[@riffhammeron]

Brojo's attitude is scary. If the actions and desires are of equal consequence, why not do the action?

[@roygarza2770]

That caller is ignorant 😒

[@Ex_christian]

It’s the Christian cult way…….

[@darksoulnj]

They have phones in Arkansas?? Who knew? Lol!

[@anushkasekkingstad1300]

I’m completely happy being homosexual but would be deeply embarrassed to be either ignorant or a bigot.

[@artyswell7913]

I will agree that it's "icky", simply because I'm heterosexual. However, to call homosexuality wrong, or immoral, is completely asinine.

[@jasonbower7763]

This

[@Jafiveon]

Being hetero doesn't mean it's icky. It just means you don't have a desire for it. I don't find it icky. I just don't feel compelled to engage in it. It's a you thing, not a hetero thing. But I'm not trying to berate you for feeling that way. I think it's fine to have that kind of visceral reaction as long as you can remain rational when it doesn't affect you and treat people the same.

[@jasonbower7763]

@@Jafiveon Yes, that's what we are saying. People are allowed to think things are "icky" - it doesn't mean anything else other than a visceral reaction.

[@artyswell7913]

@@jasonbower7763 Indeed

[@chriskeranen]

Very good.

[@hannotn]

So confident, yet so utterly devoid of any rational argument.

[@lvdrums]

I'm lost on the "god knows everything and all people are gods people that he made" but don't accept the gay people god makes, or the black people god made, and what about the Muslims god made?

[@jenna2431]

If that's the caller's opinion, then by all means and with my blessing don't do any homosexual acts. But then you must also afford the same to every.body.else.

[@SuperChicken666]

Admittedly, I think it's a bit icky, too. But seriously it's none of my business, and whatever makes you happy. I'll defend your right to do whatever you want that doesn't infringe on anybody else's rights. And did I mention that it's none of my business?

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

I've heard or read somewhere that Leviticus 18:22 has a mistranslation in it and the original text is against pedos or same-sex rape.

[@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons]

well if god is real he created everything so logic dictates he created gay people so leave them alone.

[@jerrycallender7604]

WE have been here since the Dawn of Time! WE pre-date ALL religious cults! WE are in EVERY family! OUR contributions to Society are incalculable! WE are NOT going A N Y W H E R E ! I'm a 79-year old gay male and do not have A.I.D.S. The highest incidence of A.I.D.S. is 18-24 year old STR8 people. If YOU don't want to engage in sex with an individual of your sex DON'T!

[@karenkalweit6018]

Broho wants to be the thought police

[@MrCanis4]

He could move to Afghanistan.

[@jonnaking3054]

the best days of the Atheist Experience

[@dimitrioskalfakis]

the excuses theists invent to justify their demented social views and limitations is mind boggling. why don't they admit right away that their tribal mythological deity in their book of ancient fables forbids them an array of human activities because they think he feels like it.

[@Godless_Doc]

Straight relationships don’t have a rational justification tbh.

[@jasonbower7763]

I mean, yeah they do: procreation.

[@Jafiveon]

@@jasonbower7763 What if they don't want children?

[@jasonbower7763]

@@Jafiveon Irrelevant to the point. The statement is simply true that "straight relationships DO have a rational justification; procreation" Whether people want children or not is irrelevant.

[@zachrichardson5581]

​​@@jasonbower7763well then so does homosexuality...happiness. "Because 2 people want to and nobody is being harmed" is an applicable justification to either situation.

[@jasonbower7763]

@@zachrichardson5581 True. I agree. Happiness is a rational justification. I was simply responding to the foolish initial statement about straight relationships.

[@jeffsaxton716]

So it ain't "icky" for 250 pound uncle Joe and 180 pound aunt Velma getting it on? 😂😂😂

[@golden-63]

🤢🤢🤢. 🤮🤮🤮 🤣🤣🤣

[@norocosul33]

this is an very old video, I would appreciate if some info about the original were provided in the description

[@davidgreen6490]

Homosexuality in a Heterosexual species of course cannot be rationally justified, but that does not mean its wrong or immoral.

[@jasonbower7763]

I think human sexuality is somewhat irrational. People are into lots of different things that don't necessarily make sense. That's okay though.

[@Jafiveon]

What do you mean heterosexual species? Humans aren't a heterosexual species per se. That is how the species creates progeny but we are a combination of hetero, homo, pan, asexual, etc. A species must have some form of reproduction to continue into the next generations but as a species we are very diverse sexually and it's possible that it can be beneficial to have non reproducing members of the population that don't need to focus on child rearing or to prevent overpopulation etc. Point being that while heterosexual is the majority of INDIVIDUALS in the species we are not as a COLLECTIVE a heterosexual species.

[@jasonbower7763]

@@Jafiveon By and large, all species are inherently heterosexual. This is proven in nature by the simple necessity to procreate. That being said - sexual preferences are a very diverse part of psychology and sexuality. These two statements can be true at the same time - We are primarily a heterosexual species... AND it's totally natural and okay to have other kinds of sexuality within the species.

[@davidgreen6490]

@@Jafiveon OMG! You have just said that homo sapiens sapiens is not a heterosexual species! One sex has a penis and one sex has a vagina. The mechanics are, one sex places the penis inside the vagina of the other sex and that is how the species is designed to produce the next generation. Whatever choices you care to make after that simple biological fact come secondary and are irrelevant to it. It is a system of reproduction that is over 3 billion years old, the leftists may be a little late to the party. I am done with the Americans and the left..

[@davidgreen6490]

@@Jafiveon OH FFS, my comments are censored on this topic. This left wing platform is absurd..

[@tehspamgozehere]

Love in a nutshell: "Genes: Dooo eeeet!" Lust in a nutshell: "Genes: DOO EET NAO!"

[@antoniom4099]

Right right.

[@makesnodifference]

Something I learned a LOOONG time ago sitting waiting for my turn in traffic court (where I won, BTW) is that MOST people have no idea what argumentation is, what constitutes a legitimate argument, what constitutes a rebuttal, and in that context what counts as a legal argument. Idiot after idiot showed up to demand their tickets be discharged because they had kids that had to go to school or because they were late for something or their car was malfunctioning etc essentially throwing themselves on the mercy of the court with excuses stemming from their own poor choices. It was utterly pathetic and I watched person after person receive charges and fines. Morons. The court, and the world at large, doesn't care about your feelings or problems. When I was called, I explained to the judge why the ticket itself was illegitimate because the camera that issued it was placed in a location that is illegal for the state to place it not just according to the official county maps and the maps issued to me directly by the city engineering department but also according to the specific wording in the state revised statutes. Essentially I took the path of showing that every piece of evidence that comes from that camera is void because their video and photos were illegally taken. THIS is a legal argument. Ticket dismissed. I saw multiple people behind me looking at each other for their tickets going "what just happened, should we steal her argument??" The vast majority of Christians are not even close to equipped to defend their dumb "faith" and there's not going to be a path for them to take to rhetorically or logically justify the bigotries that it requires of them. Most of the time I can't even listen to these people and have to switch to listening to failsons like William Lane Craig get pwned because at least HE understands what argumentation is and watching him get wrecked brings a certain level of satisfaction. From the rest? Expect stupid. The very least these people could do for themselves is to read legal jurisprudence to get an idea of how argumentation works (or even go to community college to learn basic argumentation and philosophy) but apparently that's too much effort most of the time from losers who don't even read the book they claim is the supposed word of god. I laugh when they have to pay all their traffic fines and I get to walk. LOL.

[@IAmTheMorningandEveningStar]

Really getting tired of people equating being gay to liking kids. Part of what was so hard about accepting myself was believing I was an actual danger to children and had mentally berated myself at every opportunity into disliking kids just to prove I wasn’t. Saying “I’m so far from being attracted to kids, I hate them and think they’re stupid, gross and terrible.” Which I mean….is not *completely* untrue but that’s beside the point. I’m a queerio cheerio and I work well with children because I am patient, empathetic and compassionate. I’m the same with animals. Being lgbtq+ does not automatically mean I want to or will ever want to sleep with kids. And as a child having to grow up hating myself for something that didn’t even apply to me is part of why I’ll prolly need lifelong therapy. *STOP IT!*

[@morbidlyobeserobocop3038]

Brojo(b) must not be getting any hits on Grindr and this is his tantrum.

[@jamesphilipson1289]

Good cop bad cop

[@hannotn]

And they're roughing up a particularly stupid criminal

[@user-sx7wo1yl7y]

Right. Yeah. But.....

[@Mxxx-ii9bu]

All you need to know about the caller is that he is an acolyte of Gary Milne/Darth Dawkins, a largely reviled and dishonest presuppositionalist.

[@glenbateman5960]

That's not weird. A lot of Homosexuals think Heterosexual sex is icky. Anything that isn't natural for you can seem icky.

[@lawrenceshadai4966]

For this guy even thoughts are a crime. Very 1984 ! "Thoughtcrime" !

[@Rick-da-scale]

Where is my man, Holger? We need to talk.

[@Fmj168]

It is