Calling an Audible During a Poker Hand

[@CrushlivePoker]

An audible in the sense that was discussed in the video, refers to an American football situation where the quarterback changes the play at the line of scrimmage usually because of what he sees from the defense. Also this might be one of my favorite thumbnails that we have published!

[@EllieBanks333]

This might be the most impressed I've been so far by the caller's play. Recognizing that king of hearts as the perfect card for his bluff is clutch.

[@effortlessawareness8778]

Why is the king of hearts the perfect card for his bluff as opposed to any other heart card

[@ぬんぬんビム]

@@effortlessawareness8778 Because AK "got there" and hero's hand looks a lot like AK. V's range has a ton of 2 pairs that now lose to AK.

[@kennydeschenes3390]

@@effortlessawareness8778 villain 2 pairs dont beat ak anymore and it a part of hero open for sure. hero dont have many bluff here. many of hero one pair hand have showdown so he dont to bluff that much. aq aj are a big part of hero range so it dont really make sense to bluff except with the a of heart.

[@irishock]

I was literally screaming SHOVE when I saw that Kh lol

[@michaelstephens9852]

Nice play. He was definitely checking back on this card.

[@KyprosEc]

Lotsof heart by this player on that river card. It felt like the player was making you pay for a draw and you convinced him to fold...this is really a player dependent move but a really good semi bluff. Given your Image I'm a bit surprised he folded

[@1vailchris]

I think the image worked in his favor. LAG's are going to call down on flop and turn with a lot of their nut flush draws when they raise pre-flop. They always think they're going to get there, so when the heart comes, villain's more likely to assume hero sucked out on him after making loose calls on flop and turn.

[@KyprosEc]

@1vailchris very good reasoning right there. With process of elimination it's quite unlikely the villain was betting a flush draw.

[@1vailchris]

@@KyprosEc Villain's flop raise is repping 2 pair or better, or a combo draw. If villain had the flush draw without a pair, like QhJH or 67 to 89, he'd probably just flat hero's flop bet and look to play some turns. If the flush comes in and hero doesn't have it, he's going to be checking a lot. Hero's flop call looks like he's drawing to the nuts with AhXh. The only reason for hero to call the turn is if he's willing to lead the river on a heart that doesn't pair the board, or on an offsuit Q. Once hero calls the flop and turn, villain should assume his lower flushes are no good, and mostly fold to hero's river bet. Some players won't be able to fold the 2nd or 3rd nuts here, but once you get down past the Q or J high flushes, most players are capable of folding, when there are so many better flushes hero can have here. If villain's got 9h8h, hero has all the Broadway heart draws in his range. As played, it really looked like villain was just trying to take it down on flop or turn with his bet sizing. It makes sense for hero to jam the river on a heart or Q.

[@KyprosEc]

@@1vailchris I don't disagree with your logic

[@mikeh7917]

Works vs 'thinking players', not against total slobs or drunks.

[@jefffrese748]

Caller is definitely a very skilled capable player. Love the play. Great analysis as always from Bart. The best!

[@Williy_Nilly]

Very unusual game setup, button straddle has a massive advantage.

[@ぬんぬんビム]

Button straddle games are very common live here in the states. (It's still not really an advantage because you're putting in a lot of money blind.)

[@Williy_Nilly]

@user-ml5ls4ld8b but you have position which is a huge advantage.

[@1vailchris]

I hate the button straddle. It forces the players in the blinds to play tighter and causes all kinds of weird shit to happen pre-flop.

[@Williy_Nilly]

@@1vailchris Straddling changes the dynamics of the game period.

[@ぬんぬんビム]

@@Williy_Nilly You're on the button, so you already have position against everybody postflop, and preflop you're only gaining position over the BB and SB. It's not nearly as -EV as UTG straddle, but it's really not that much of a gain.

[@troybenson5767]

That was a great move. Thinking on all levels and not giving up so easily on the hand. I don’t think it would’ve worked against a set of 5s or 10s tho but it’s okay when bluffs don’t get thru sometimes

[@relaxationmeditationsleep2934]

Love the jam on the river. Well played!

[@DallasDelRio]

At this stack depth I think caller has the perfect blockers to bluff any thinking player off their hand. A check raise on the river would’ve been better had he been deeper.

[@cial67]

Not an over-abundance of thinking players in 2-5, so I feel like this is getting called by the majority of players because they're just not ever folding a hand that strong

[@cameronandrew1853]

i think villian is checking back river an overwhelming majority of the time to go for the check raise approach

[@1vailchris]

I'd never go for a check-raise as a bluff here. Villain is going to be checking back at too high a frequency, and not folding to a x/r at a high enough frequency.

[@jordanross3290]

I think I was the button in this hand. When was this?

[@mattymcsplatty5440]

Great show Bart

[@monacojerry]

Love this play.

[@bryanjohnson8162]

I really like this shove I feel like his bet on the turn is to keep you from drawing out

[@patrick_kyker]

Such a perfect River card to bluff.

[@Egoinpokeregobroke]

Hey I really appreciate your videos. I am from switzerland and recently played a game in Liechtenstein and had a pretty interesting hand. I think I made a mistake on the river . How is it possible to discuss the hand with you?

[@DaveFu]

I gotta say, that last caller is a straight shooter that has upper limits written all over him!

[@rez2576]

I view it as an easy fold on the turn against most tight players. Most players are scared to semi bluff a flush draw on an Ace high board vs the pre flop raiser. Rightfuly so. When you raise pre flop and bet the flop on an Ace high board your hand looks like Ace Jack plus. When a player raises your bet and continues, he's basically saying he isn't scared of the Ace. Most players aren't scared of the Ace because they have it beat. If I think villain is wild I'm obviously calling, but most players won't get out of line on these board textures.

[@nolimitpoker]

I Dont know the rec played it perfect call pre fine re-raise flop makes sense. Hero should be checking this texture. Then the rec knows to go big on the turn and then folds the river like he should. He does ant sound like the rec to me

[@1vailchris]

Maybe he should have bet bigger on flop and turn. The problem is that his flop raise makes his hand pretty face up. He's repping two pair or better. There are going to be some river cards that allow hero to credibly bluff. Any heart, diamond, or K, Q or J will potentially make hero a better hand. That's half the deck. Villain's turn bet should be bigger, perhaps, if he wants hero to fold turn.

[@nolimitpoker]

@@1vailchris this makes no sense if his hands face up. Then the caller is just punting by calling. Calling turn is bad than blocking the flush draws if he only has 2 par plus.

[@1vailchris]

@@nolimitpoker why doesn't it make sense for villain to bet larger on flop or turn? His x/r on flop weights him more towards 2p or a set than a draw. Hero's call looks like top pair plus. Villain's hands should want to bet bigger to get max value from hero before the river, no?

[@santaclause3487]

Villain and hero seems really good.

[@drewberry8945]

What about the J Hearts on the and bluffing that, surely it's the same bluff as the King?

[@jacobbirkenfeld9261]

Opp had special glasses/contact lenses and was part of that father/son team that’s been marking cards in the 2/5-5/10 games there for the past 10 years. He knew you had the ace of hearts = easy fold by him

[@m.fheagle3286]

I think I go $450-500 bluff to really make it look like you’re enticing a call.

[@MM-vs5ej]

Leaving $250 behind? Why?

[@1vailchris]

I think that line and sizing works better when hero has the betting lead on the turn. If hero went bet-bet-bet, a smaller river bet looks like it's thick value, begging for a call. But when villain takes the lead with his raise on the flop and bets big on turn, I think the all-in jam on the river is more convincing. It looks like hero is "mad" at villain for raising flop and betting big on turn after hero raised pre, so hero wants to punish villain for making him pay for his draw with a max-value bet on the river.

[@m.fheagle3286]

That makes sense, I was approaching from the position that 1) we don’t win at showdown and 2) are repping a made draw. If/when a nut flush is made against an aggro in position on you, you would t want to run the risk of check/check so the smaller sizing “looks” like your trying to milk a call. Looking for a number that’s small enough for value but big enough that his curiosity doesn’t pay it off. K❤️ completes a lot. Maybe I’m wrong.

[@1vailchris]

@@m.fheagle3286 depends on how the hand plays out and the opponent. Hero said his own table image was LAG, but just said he expected villain to defend his straddle kind of wide, not necessarily that villain was aggressive. I think if villain takes the betting lead with a flop raise, then bets turn big, hero can lead river with a bigger bet. It's almost like he's saying to the villain, "I got there. I dare you to call." It would be different if hero had the betting lead on flop and turn. Going smaller makes sense then, because villain is either slow playing a made hand or doesn't have a strong enough hand to call an all in jam.

[@gabrielrockman]

I'd be one of those players that would check back two pair on the river if the front door hearts comes in. I just can't see betting two pair and trying to get called by a worse hand. If the hero had checked the river, is it really the right move for the villain to bet Ace-10? I know I wouldn't be betting Ace-10 on the river if I was the villain. I might bet Ace-King or a set, but I'm not betting anything worse than Ace-King for value if I'm the villain.

[@1vailchris]

You might get called by A5 or AQ, especially if your opponent blocks some stronger hands, like the nut flush. But generally, I wouldn't think you'd want to bet here with A10 very often on this runout.

[@sethshapiro5973]

Yeah… It’s a nice job on the river, but if you feel like you need to make that play because he’d do heavily weighted towards AT or A5, then calling on the turn is really bad. The only reason to call is if you already decide that you’ll shove on the river if any heart or broadway card hits. Otherwise, calling to just check fold to any non queen river is major -EV

[@iambadatpickingusernames6669]

Villains range to raise on the flop feels condensed around AT (less likely due to card removal), TT, 55, flush draws, and QJ/KQ of diamonds. While the A does remove the absolute nuts from their range, the action also leads me to think they usually have a set or better here, which I don’t think they fold much against a guy who has an aggro image.

[@1vailchris]

Villain would be 3-betting TT pre-flop with some frequency, we'd think. When villain raises the flop, it looks a lot like he has A10, A5 suited, or 55. Hero's range when he calls looks a lot like TPTK, top pair plus a heart flush draw, or some sort of combo-draw with hearts or diamonds. The K on the river completes both a heart flush and a straight for QJ, and could make hero a better 2 pair with AK. Hero could also have AA or TT, or KK. If we give villain all the combos of A10, A5s, and 55, and assume he's only calling with 55, that's 3 sets he calls with, but 9 combos of 2 pair that he folds. If we give hero all the AA, AK, TT, KK, QJh, QJd, and AhXh for value, and only AhQx and AhJx, as his bluffs, hero still has a ton of thick value (13 combos) compared to his bluffs (2). Even if villain has bottom set, he's still going to fold sometimes when the front-door flush draw comes in.

[@digitaldavid5633]

I still don't understand what an "audible" is. Please explain?

[@wills6487]

It comes from American football. It is when one of the players on the field changes the play from what was called by the coach/play caller to something else based on how the other team is lined up before the snap. It’s usually done by yelling specific code phrases to the rest of the team, hence the name audible. The “audible” here is simply that the plan changed when Kh came on the river

[@mikeh7917]

The famous NFL Quarterback Peyton Manning was famous for shouting "Omaha Omaha!" right before the play started. This was often an Audible...but sometimes a FAKE Audible...for balance and deception. He was a GTO QB.

[@mikeh7917]

^^NOT a reference to PLO btw.

[@digitaldavid5633]

@@wills6487 thank you!

[@digitaldavid5633]

@@mikeh7917 ty!

[@MrStevie57]

Well done.

[@intrepidus3378]

I mean, if he's looking for specifically the Kh in order to bluff, then doesn't that mean he should be folding the turn? I get the nature of the audible. But it feels like we just skipped over the fact that audibles are called when the original plan is discovered to not be so good. Also, the fact that the top card on the flop was an A makes it a little bit harder to rep the nut flush on the river. There is going to be a higher frequency of all in with top pair and the nut flush draw when there is a bet and a raise on the flop. That didn't happen. If I was the villain I would be so confused. The hero should have more AK here as played. But AK doesn't shove the river.

[@1vailchris]

Hypothetically, how would you expect hero to play a hand like AhXh if hero's kicker is lower than a 10? On this flop, he's losing to a lot of two pair combos if his flush doesn't come in. Even if he hits his kicker with A9, he's still losing to A10. If hero has A2-A4, he's also losing to villain's A5's. Even AhQh is losing to two pair if hero doesn't catch a Q or a heart. Seems like many top pair + flush draws would get played this way against a flop raise.

[@intrepidus3378]

@@1vailchris The line is not completely uncredible. It's just slightly less less credible than trying to rep the nut flush on a non-A-high flop. My bigger point was the fact that the hero got himself into that spot with some marginal play on earlier streets.

[@1vailchris]

@@intrepidus3378 I'm not entirely disagreeing with you. I think he should only call the turn if he's willing to bet the river on any Q or heart, not just the K. I just think that hero could play a lot of his top pair plus flush draw but weak kicker hands this way. Otherwise, he wouldn't be able to credibly rep the nut flush on the river. I don't think many opponents are going to call a river jam with A10 on this runout, as played.

[@1vailchris]

@@intrepidus3378 Just to clarify what I'm saying - I agree he shouldn't call flop and turn unless he's willing to bluff on a heart runout. You said his play was marginal on earlier streets. I think it's marginal if he's just going to check-evaluate the river no matter what comes. If that's the plan, he should fold turn. But if he's planning to bluff any heart, any diamond, and any non-heart Broadway card, that's half the deck. In that case, it's only marginal if his opponent is going to look him up at too high a frequency. I think in this hand hero was playing off his own table image (loose aggressive), and villain's fairly transparent range of 2-pair plus.

[@1vailchris]

Villain is definitely repping 2 pair or better or a combo-draw with his flop raise and large turn bet. Hero made the right read on the river, obviously, but I think hero could make this same play with any heart that doesn't pair the board on the river, because villain is so obviously repping 2 pair, a set, or maybe a combo-draw that gets there, but hero blocks the nuts with his Ace. I don't see why it has to be the K and only the K for him to make this play.

[@mariopaxechevarria6283]

Majority of Vs combo draws hold the K of hearts, so when K comes out, we can condense the range to sets at best. If it was a lower heart, Villain can still have 2nd nuts making it a much harder fold.

[@1vailchris]

@@mariopaxechevarria6283 but if the K comes, villain could still have the Q, giving him the second nuts, which is just as hard to fold as it would be if he had the K. If villain has QJ, the 10 and 5 on the flop and K on the river really limit the number of Ax holdings in hero's pre flop raising range. So if hero is going to make this play, it really works better if villain doesn't have any hearts at all, and instead has two pair or a set. In that scenario, it doesn't matter what the river heart is, because hero could have more Ax combos with two hearts, like AQ or AJ.

[@shoeyxc]

If villain had a combo draw on the flop, it is KQhh, KJhh, or QJhh. When the king of hearts comes, that leaves only QJhh. Compare this one hand to all the combos of 2 pairs villain has, it is much more likely villain did not make a flush.

[@davidculhane4388]

I disagree with Bart saying " if he is bad enough to call eith 10 5s pre, is he going to fold the river?" There are plenty of formidable LAG players who have a button calling range pre that wide and can make good laydowns and play well overall postflop. That ability is what makes it profitable for them to play those hands pre, whereas a lot of TAG players do not play as well postlop. I know Bart is not a nit, but he sounds like one when he constantly criticizes any kind of LAG play.

[@snex000]

If hero had Axhh would he not just stick it in on the flop? And would he really do this with AK? Story doesn't make sense to me.

[@tlrehmke]

This is the perfect situation to let the villain pick one of the cards to see!

[@brandonhelmo]

@crushlivepoker why wouldnt you do this if a queen of hearts comes on the river??

[@joeshab123]

He explained that in the video; you'd then have top 2 and it's too good of a hand to turn into a bluff.

[@1vailchris]

@@joeshab123 Villain's flop raise seems to be repping 2 pair or better, or a combo draw, which hero blocks with his Ah. I think a case could be made to bet the river on the Qh.

[@santaclause3487]

U can fold the turn with the A♥️ I think. It’s not a great card to have, u want him to have it kinda.

[@mattfox5933]

We also block JQ so that’s good.

[@brandonkelly3275]

Idk...if im Villian i think I would call here. Jam makes no sense for value...hero MUST know im not holding flush draw...so why would I call an all in? The only bets that make sense for flushes is small to mid value imo

[@brandonkelly3275]

If hero has the Ace...what can I hold that calls with that board? If hero doesn't hold Ace, they wouldn't jam because I might have it.

[@1vailchris]

Really? I think it makes perfect sense, otherwise no one would ever call on a three-flush board. Hero could be bluffing with just the stiff Ah, or he could have it. Many opponents will call down with worse than 2 pair.

[@brandonkelly3275]

@@1vailchris what hands would the hero be targeting that would call all in? Holding Ace flush wants the call not the fold... All sets make no sense as played. Id think every pocket pair on this board would 3 bet pre flop in position. The only target is QJ of hearts and that wouldn't have been pressed like villian played as hero clearly reps Ace (at least) And thats the point. Its not that nobody ever calls 3 flush boards. Its whether or not they call jam river bets with 3 flush boards as played. Without any real targets for value available...I would be inclined to think bluff and call.

[@brandonkelly3275]

@@1vailchris the fact he folded top 2 is all the evidence you need.

[@brandonkelly3275]

@@1vailchris well...top 2 until river lol

[@juniorperavlova]

What is an audible?

[@mkader2494]

Can't believe the villain advertised his poor play by showing the hand. lols

[@joshmullins4849]

I think villain played the hand fine tbh. Like 1 in 100 players at 2/5 are even capable of attempting this bluff, and even caller seems unsure whether it is right.

[@RealDJStew724]

Heart ♥ Banson ❤

[@noThankyou-g5c]

what does it mean to “pull an audible”

[@orion0716]

It’s an American football term meaning to change the play in the middle of the action. So the caller wasn’t going to bluff until he saw the perfect river card and then he changed his plan and pulled the trigger on the all in

[@greencell1968]

All the horrible euros, including me, like calling a what??

[@CallStation23]

I hope caller just showed the Ah

[@patrick_kyker]

Button straddled should be banned. it just seemed like it kills so much action. I mean maybe incentivizes people to steal and three bit later in position with a little bit of dead money.

[@KraphtOne]

Make a “sorry bro” comment or something. Then let him pick a card and you’ll show it. Hand over. You’re welcome

[@patrick_kyker]

The trick is remembering to being this aggressive when you have the nuts as well as a bluff. Don't be scared over bet with the nuts if your opponent has some value.

[@mangohavoc6428]

Berk Dansons?

[@micks9580]

Comitorcolia?

[@rudenurse2561]

algorithm

[@duncanglen3452]

What the hell is this audible chat ? Please explain to an old man coffee 😂

[@MM-vs5ej]

In American football when the QB changes the play at the line of scrimmage just before the snap.

[@duncanglen3452]

@MM-vs5ej ah I never would of got that. Thanks Cheers

[@blazeron12]

Folding pairs is for cowards.

[@cedarstuff]

buTTon

[@fmcdomer]

One time i was about to fold kks on the river. My friend comes out and says. Think about what he said!!!! I called and he was bluffing

[@skelthouser2730]

I would have thrown your friend out of the game.

[@fmcdomer]

@skelthouser2730 he wasn't in the game. But before the hand guy must had said some something like... I'm going to beat u in this hand