Caltrans pilot program will charge drivers per mile

A pilot program aims to find new ways for the state to pay for road maintenance by charging drivers for the amount of miles driven. Marianne Favro reports.
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[@kmusic5944]

This is getting beyond ridiculous...

[@calisingh7978]

Welcome to agenda 2030, 1 US vote to 54 African votes que bono

[@Sean-yw1fe]

I support this bill! And 30 cents is too little! A dollar a mile should be fine!

[@Sean-yw1fe]

I support this bill! And 30 cents is too little! A dollar a mile should be fine!

[@walterwhite1]

Vote them out guys

[@geopietro]

@@Sean-yw1fe Why stop at $1.00 per mile. I think $5.00 is better. ;-)

[@atumra7285]

How about NOT mismanaging the funds you already got?! What a noble idea!

[@rxonmymind8362]

The fifth world's largest economy and we don't have enough money for our roads? Wtf.

[@duckhunt1058]

@@rxonmymind8362 That has nothing to do with it. The state wastes money like its nothing. Then again why care when it's not their money.

[@BeamyTarzier]

@@rxonmymind8362 they were taxin people for gas. This is the law of unintended consequence. Cali was so erroneously manipulating people to buy electric cars with their “no gas vehicles sold after 2035” bs. And now they don’t have enough tax revenues from the gas tax, because people are driving ev’s. And the world’s “fifth largest economy” means in terms of GDP, doesn’t mean the government has all that money. I know communism is a way of life in Cali, but stop thinking that just because the gdp is the fifth largest in the world, all that money belongs to the govt.

[@infinitigjj6779]

When our government is corrupt and wanted more money from his people is beyond ridiculous

[@ryulee458]

Exactly I agree with you 100%

[@Manskilz]

No More Taxes! FU.

[@chrisconsorte7893]

FU is right!!

[@calisingh7978]

Welcome to agenda 2030 🎉

[@phongvang5161]

Another revolution anyone?

[@JW-mz1fp]

FGN/

[@chrisconsorte7893]

@@phongvang5161 Try Civil War!!

[@jjdiaz5304]

If they’re shelling out billions to fix roads then why are there so many potholes.

[@Awesome_Aasim]

Most of your roads are paid for by local governments. Local governments are very tight on cash. Low density car dependent suburbs cannot financially sustain themselves.

[@speedy0]

Newly paved roads have huge pot holes after a rain storm. This tells you how much the technology has advanced.

[@b0btlechat]

Its embezzled before it gets anywhere just like every other program in california.

[@TurboCarlos]

@@b0btlechatnobody gives a flying Fack The entire California state looks the other way. They could care less that they’re getting taxed to death

[@rollinia7770]

Freeways in California got more speed bumps and holes than the streets.

[@redacted6650]

Fuck this shit, I'm out!

[@oftengone]

I don’t blame you

[@fanwu7015]

ok,come to China and become a English teacher.

[@gcm323]

Why don’t we vote them out, stay here, and help make things better again.

[@goddamngrapes]

@@gcm323too many libtards keeping them in

[@awnzotheman]

​@gcm323 that's too much logic. Won't work in blue strong hold.

[@UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart]

NO MORE TAXES

[@DemPilafian]

NO MORE CANCER FROM TOXIC LICE* VEHICLE EMISSIONS *Legacy Internal Combustion Engine

[@ramagharfeh2733]

Say it louder so they can hear you. Why are you Californians so complacent. Stand up and do something instead of being on your keyboard complaining.

[@DemPilafian]

NO MORE SMOG

[@RAdaltonracer]

There’s always one.

[@bribri6985]

😂 everything around you is taxed -what you eat -where you work -where you sleep -where you drive 😂

[@smoothoperator1083]

They are killing this state! 😮

[@ramagharfeh2733]

Do something about it…

[@jamesparker1071]

​@@ramagharfeh2733 Sounds like someone is still living in Mommies basement.....

[@smoothoperator1083]

@@ramagharfeh2733 I vote Republican Bud. Have a good one 👍

[@smoothoperator1083]

@@jamesparker1071 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@45th_is_47th]

It's planned and deliberate

[@IrvingtonArms]

So, if we charge by mile... are we removing the gas tax... I do not believe it. I bet it will end up being both.

[@3107karan]

And the tax we pay when purchasing a car

[@BeamyTarzier]

This is a permanently temporary government plan, you know, like the income tax, or the patriot act!

[@Lobsterdollar]

This is a good point.

[@johnmourer5747]

It's all about revenue. To put into the general fund. Not using the money for its intended purpose.

[@walterwhite1]

Only a fool votes this in

[@SSid-or8rv]

Between the income tax, sales tax, property tax, gas tax, electricity surcharges, dmv fees, CARB/smog fees and many more hidden charges plus closing state prisons etc if CA is still running out of money then it's time to fire the politicians who are completely disconnected from the realities and are working against the general population. Crime is through the roof, companies are leaving the state, insurance companies are dropping policies, and on top of that everything is already more expensive in CA.

[@dogsense3773]

Crime is down

[@ramagharfeh2733]

Why don’t Californians do something about it. Here in Texas we would hang out politicians. Seems like Californians either don’t care or are too scared.

[@MPier]

property tax is already 3 to 4 times the federal income tax for many people. federal income tax is the bench mark tax for the nation and no tax can be higher than that. State needs to refund all property taxes collected in excess of the property owner's federal income taxes.

[@duckhunt1058]

@@ramagharfeh2733 Because Californians by and large love government and love paying excessive taxes. Only fools do that and for that I give you the typical California voter who votes for any moronic Democrat in office or running for it.

[@elcompaish2141]

100% agree

[@justachipn3039]

🤣🤣 Calif gov no longer works for us... WE WORK FOR THEM !!!

[@DemPilafian]

You work for the oil industry.

[@justachipn3039]

@@DemPilafian I'm 68 and happily retired Veteran. Working for the life blood of the Oil Industry would have also been a good call !!!

[@ChinchillaInManila]

What about all the projects that use gas tax money for non-road projects. How about we stop doing that.

[@lambertlum1087]

Diverting gas tax to non-road projects violates the principle of user-pay/user-benefit. A driver who pays gas tax should only be paying for the road, not someone's BART ticket.

[@DemPilafian]

@@lambertlum1087 The gas tax should also pay for the cancer caused by smog, especially when BART passengers still have to breathe that toxic air from LICE vehicles.

[@lambertlum1087]

@@DemPilafian If you want gas tax to pay for lung cancer, then you need a proper calculation based on statistical data that directly correlates car-based air pollutants separate from cigarette smoke, and other air pollutants. If you can't calculate, you can't levy a tax.

[@DemPilafian]

@@lambertlum1087 According to the Union for International Cancer Control (UICC), air pollution causes $8.1 trillion of health damages each year. Yes, that's a "t" not a "b", and that figure does not include damage from climate change. Statistical analysis cannot identify individual cancer patients, but statistical analysis with enough data absolutely can calculate the cost of smog.

[@chrisconsorte7893]

You mean stop spending?? But that would too much sense!! 🤪

[@MrProy33]

Where, when, how often, and how much I drive is not the governments concern.

[@crabkilla]

Government: Go electric! Consumer: OK - I bought a Tesla Government: We are increased electricity rates 3x Consumer: FU! Government: We are going to tax you per mile driven Also Government: We have no money because of this high-speed rail project that no one will use

[@joesmith3590]

EV is just the disguise to get rid of people owning cars and Uber or walk/ride everywhere.

[@theobliviousinvestor6722]

They already charge all EV owners every year for road maintenance through an extra EV registration fee, its far more than I paid in gas taxes when I had a gas car, where was that money spent? Now they are complaining about gas taxes, I'm so fed up with this state and the politicians, they are worse than the criminals constantly breaking car windows.

[@GetTheFOutOfMyWay]

To be fair... no one will use it, because no one will be afford to take it. LOL

[@duckhunt1058]

@@theobliviousinvestor6722 You got what you voted for. I live in this idiotic state. What is going on here is borderline insanity.

[@theobliviousinvestor6722]

@@duckhunt1058 I wish I got what I voted for, it would be a significantly different state and federally we wouldn't have a blank staring president wearing Depends and shaking hands with invisible people. The only thing I got in California voting was to give the boot to Pay Davis in the recall, Clown Brown and Gavie Newscum more than made up for the Recall of Pay Davis. If I also got what I voted for, I wouldn't still be seeing articles about the high speed phantom desert train to nowhere, it would have died in the initial bond/tax measure. Like a virus that train crap is now spreading to Texas. Nixon killed passenger trains federally in the 1970's, no high speed project will ever change it without first changing the federal maintenance regulations for trains.

[@leunam3434]

Please release the data that confirms your statement about lost gas tax revenue. It’s all speculation and irrelevant.

[@Calinotch06]

exactly

[@nestorvargas2399]

These greedy officials will do anything to get their revenue

[@user-vf6ru8gm9p]

She drives a tesla but is worried about putting a tracking device in her vehicle. Thats hilarious.

[@Cmorrison626]

Exactly. I’m sure having that smart phone, not only tracks your location but just about everything else you do (purchase, consider purchasing, and so forth), doesn’t bother her though.

[@walterwhite1]

Tesla cars track nothing guys. So ignorant

[@ajg2094]

@@Cmorrison626We are talking govt controlled GPS access buddy not just the regular car companies access

[@crabkilla]

Putting a government transponder in my car LOL LOL LOL LOL

[@kennygaming208]

Big brother is always watching

[@markmartinez768]

Born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area moved to Nevada two weeks ago roads here in Nevada are much smoother with no potholes plus cleaner no bumpers on freeway from previous accidents It made me realize California steals money from its residents and nothing gets fixed 880 freeway has been horrible for years especially from Fremont to Oakland.

[@kenmarron1938]

880 thru Fremont is like a gravel road

[@antster7]

Isn't that why EV drivers pay more in registration? No double dipping, Caltrans!

[@lordzenchi]

I was thinking the same thing. Looks like they just want more of your money!

[@damnjustassignmeone]

It doesn’t even come close to making up the difference though. People pay dramatically more in gas taxes than EV owners pay in registration

[@evoxfe9848]

CHP is funded by vehicle registration fees.

[@duckhunt1058]

EV owners should be taxed on their electric bill when charging their car with the same taxes as the gas tax. The government told people to buy an EV for the environment now they are losing money. People wonder why this state is the laughing stock of the country because of this type of nonsense.

[@outdooroperator714]

EV pay less for vehicle registration

[@steelersbxl]

This is BS. Plus the State is removing the carpool lanes and turning them into FastTrack lanes to charge drivers. More people will leave California as its getting ridiculously expensive to be here. My 2 cents….

[@rxonmymind8362]

1% of California's own electric vehicles. What do they mean by so many people?

[@Omar_Zazzle]

And people will not keep buying electric cars anyway, since they are a disappointment.

[@1streylight]

What they mean is: “The general public is too stupid to do the research on how many EV are actually out there, so let’s sneak this in.”

[@LaJuanHughes]

​ Typed like someone that doesn't have a clue.​@@Omar_Zazzle

[@Avrakadavra1418]

Why not just get rid of the EV tax credit…..

[@3pieceAndAsoda]

How bout charge a tax for charging your vehicle.

[@DreyZee-vn3kl]

supercharging or DC Fast Charging your EV is actually more expensive than buying Gallon of gas.

[@PereiraMichael19]

Doesn’t EV drivers get charged at registration isn’t that how they pay for their share of the road?

[@DreyZee-vn3kl]

$150 I think they add for the EV renewal. but if they implement 3cents per mile, that is like driving only 5,000 miles for that $150. So for an American average 12K miles of driving, EV owners would be paying $360 on top of the already higher registration fees. thats not very inviting to switch from ICE to EV... this is like a kid being lured by the IT Clown.

[@noname9585]

For their PENSION ?

[@striker44]

Stop paying high salaries for caltrans management. They need to add more services for the taxes they already collect, not pot hole filled roads and highways.

[@isailevilopez5134]

Vote Red no more socialism blue

[@rcnightlife9611]

Rideshare drivers will be paying $2,000 - $3,000 each year if it's $.03 cents a mile. Time to start stealing cars.

[@mrparkerdan]

charge the employers who force employees back to the office, when they could work at home just as effectively.

[@lambertlum1087]

Absolutely not. Your work-at-home issue is between you and your employer. The state should not get involved.

[@DavidCasey-ge9nv]

What an entitled brat.

[@GetTheFOutOfMyWay]

They'll then MANDATE it for all and still keep the gas tax... Pocket all the money...

[@MoneySavingVideos]

How is California going to charge visitors driving from other states? Will they look at the odometer when they enter and leave the state?

[@MikeM-bn2ij]

They're not going to get rid of the gas tax and just charge both unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong

[@maxxhammer664]

No and FU😂😂😂

[@maxxhammer664]

This is what you voted for enjoy and don't fault anyone else

[@walterwhite1]

@@MikeM-bn2ijthat makes me sick

[@doright8355]

​@maxxhammer664 No matter which party we vote for, we all get F one way or the other, it's Cali way.

[@tycchock1]

How many years has it taken for the light bulb at CalTrans to turn on and see the light? Why is it that "evs" have been exempted from driving on the roads that "my gas tax" have paid for? This is another example of the rich getting a free ride on the backs of the working class.

[@DemPilafian]

Why is it that EV drivers get cancer from toxic emissions spewed by ICE vehicles?

[@whatsreal7506]

OMG! How stupidly insane!

[@b566t3]

You give a inch they take a mile .........NO

[@jeffreybarrette3844]

you give a mile and they take 3 cents

[@bhavanpatel7331]

I saw them working on printing the leaf design on the 880 divider. It looked like a waste of money since it does not reduce the potholes on the road. I believe they should bring this concern to our useless governor rather than just imposing additional charges on people.

[@WorldTraveller514]

If cars will be charged per mile it will be the end of rideshare!

[@Sirhc2023]

We pay taxes on everything, Sacramento has a spending problem.

[@user-yg1cp2yi1e]

I spend most of my hours in California. I spend most of my miles outside California. Why should I pay California for my use of non-California roads?

[@H1mynameisLarry]

This is impossible to enforce, there's a 99.9% chance it will not get approved. I can't even imagine trying to get everyone to report their mileage regularly... and honestly. The only way they can even verify if it's truthful is if they make autoshops confirm the miles and report it to the govt. Good luck! Just another random law presented to stir up controversy.

[@MoneySavingVideos]

It will be on the honor system. What can go wrong?

[@grandche3966]

How about car manufacturers are mandated to submit miles driven (especially EV) for the drivers and deduct their tax from credit card that used to subscribe some self driving services?

[@Herbie11]

Ha ha! Democrats will vote for it!

[@vidpro1786]

Caltrans don't give em a brake.

[@alihakimi1707]

Money money money money…it’s never enough because of corruption in Cali

[@Cheez1979]

You’re paying for a road that you Already pay for !!!! You guys are so ignorant.

[@janet53589]

We need an alternative maximum tax law in California. That should apply to the state as a whole. It would say that Sacramento is prohibited from taking more than a given number of total aggregate dollars in tax from the people. Such excess money is syphoned off from the people by Sacramento that it always leads to massive corruption in our state. The best way to illuminate corruption is to run a very lean government. State taxes should be halved. Sacramento should then be made to live within their new reduced budget and get honest and get efficient. No more grifting. No more corruption. No more extravagant taxes.

[@chrisconsorte7893]

Hey Governor, ask your aunt for insider trade tips to get more $$$$!! 😡😡😡😡

[@Omar_Zazzle]

I am sure that he already does.

[@ac1143]

Ok, zero miles this year. Swap odometers annually

[@cheldosarmiento2733]

Wow! So now since yall cant screw people with these gas prices now yall have to find another way to screw them. This is unbelievable🙄

[@richardwilliams5842]

How about charging EV drivers the same tax that they're charging ICE drivers?? 🤦‍♂

[@angry.8]

Wtf? What road maintenance???

[@user-gx7te5ok8e]

Jesús more taxes what the actual fuck all these people with those contracts are the real winners in all this shit they milking tf out of the people paying taxes

[@t2rx7crx1]

If this comes, roll-back mileage OBD2 devices will sell like hotcakes.

[@mrhardy7660]

This is criminal we already pay so much in taxes

[@wheelie642]

Gas tax goes into the general fund. It does not go to the highway dept.

[@DirectX3]

Corruption 😂💸💸💸

[@mingfung7777]

We probably have to pay taxes for walking soon

[@Omar_Zazzle]

Newsom will never charge a nose picking tax since that would cause him to file for bankruptcy.

[@denniscarver7681]

Those heavy EV coal burners where I live you pay tax upfront when you register it because you won't be at the pump paying tax.

[@USDM2JZ3OO]

So for every 100 miles I’m going to have to pay 3$ so each tank I’m going to have to shell out 9-10$ of taxes for just one tank on top of the 50$ to fill up.

[@randalljohnston4508]

Why wouldn’t they charge by gross vehicle weight per mile? Heavier vehicles cause multiple times more damage than a light hatchback.

[@khantra4568]

Because that would discourage more people from buying an EV, the average EV weighs a lot more than an ICE. Also if you ever owned a truck in California, we already do pay a weight fee of $80 and have to pay the commercial reg rate even though it’s a personal vehicle.

[@randalljohnston4508]

@@khantra4568 That's my point. If personal pickups are paying heavy road use taxes then EVs can as well. Evs save the owner around 1,000 a year. An 80 dollar road use tax isn't going to stop you from saving money.

[@JuanRuiz-je6cb]

Where is the 26 billion

[@lordzenchi]

It's so ridiculous... next thing they will do is charge bikes to use the bike lane then pedestrians for using the sidewalk... when or where does it end?

[@ColAngus]

So, exorbitant fuel tax is no longer enough?

[@frayydoh]

Hell no. I've had 3 flat tires in the last 6 months all in different cities on sections of road that have been severely lacking in repair. For years. Until they can maintain an accurate and speedy repair process for potholes, they shouldn't see any change in income for them.

[@davinxi5926]

I barely see them on the roads doing anything where are they and where’s their sites

[@Napoleon-xp3sm]

Jamonique would make an excellent Shrek for Halloween and 6/19.

[@cheapguts2080]

I wonder if this was looked with a socio-economical lens... My best guess is that people who earn less, drive more... so why take more money from them?

[@carter7554]

No one will ever see your information. Unless you want to see the information, and eventually will.

[@TurboCarlos]

My entire Latino family is voting for garvey and Trump RED WAVE TRUMP 2024 -lifelong California resident

[@elcompaish2141]

I file so many complaints about pot holes and over half never get fixed. I call and email and still nothing.

[@andrewgates8158]

Start the pilot program in SoCal.

[@mteffeau]

10% for the big guy

[@maxxhammer664]

And they are volunteering 😂😂😂

[@iguezz3121]

I appreciate Caltrans' efforts in maintaining our roads, but here's a thought: How about finding a way to charge electric car owners for road use instead of proposing a 30 cents per mile fee for everyone? Right now, gas car owners are footing the bill for road repairs while electric car owners cruise for free. It’s like asking someone who can't afford a Tesla to sponsor the road trip of someone who can. Let's level the playing field - equal roads, equal responsibility!

[@fernandoavila1410]

Car registration is already sky high in California. How about running an audit on where all the funds are really going. The roads and highways are in utter disrepair throughout the SJ Central Valley. Mismanagement of funds is the real issue, not the lack in revenue.

[@didamnesia3575]

Yet another gate to pass through if you want to succeed

[@kitmarshall4084]

If this happen, im moving out of state, electricity expensive, and now this

[@moejoe1863]

Of course they can track your location. Looks like you went to the liquor store a few too many times. No liver transplant for you (Medical).

[@andrew_l1900]

What a shit show of a state 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@saramae9878]

As long as they accept odometer values that's fine, that's not particularly invasive. Per mile charges are more fair. EVs create even more wear and tear than gas cars due to their increased weight.

[@lukasfoo]

I live in CA and bought a Tesla model Y. My vehicle registration is about 3X times more than a gas powered car. I paid $750! I assumed this was to compensate for the loss in gas tax revenue. Now the authorities want more from EV drivers? That’s insane!

[@khantra4568]

Was that the first time you purchased a vehicle over $42k?

[@lukasfoo]

@@khantra4568 yes it was. Is that the reason for the high registration fee?

[@khantra4568]

@@lukasfoo yes, registration is determined by 0.65% of the purchase price/value of the vehicle plus fees from your county. Some counties will have higher fees than others. Anyone who bought the cyber truck as their first truck is going to get sticker shock from their registration because CA DMV will slap them with a weight fee and commercial fee.

[@ss6830]

This happened 6 years ago as well, and then just ended, never to be heard from until this week... what happened?

[@mattnigro1108]

Good luck with this . What about people with multiple cars like myself and 4 motorcycles you ain't tracking ship

[@hoosierplowboy5299]

It will start out at 3 cents per mile, then as more EV's are used, it will go to 5 , then 8, then 10... there will be no escape.Keep in mind that the cost per mile that one can deduct for valid business travel is now 65 cents per mile, and you can see where this will lead...🤔

[@vish_010]

If you drive 25k miles per year - be prepared to pay 750 USD

[@andrewgreene8163]

They don’t get gas tax from electric vehicles but there are taxes on electric utilities, so don’t act like they are not getting taxes. So add a tax at super chargers or for those who add home chargers. Make no mistake this to get more money as we have the highest gas tax in the country!

[@ibnfaqir9223]

Adding more fees won't solve the problem, they'll still have a deficit and corruption.

[@tpolerex7282]

This would work fine for someone like me who typically drives 3-4k miles a year with that $400 payment offsetting the gas taxes and in a 30mpg vehicle, but I know I am in the minority.

[@AdamHird]

Anyone find able to find the link to the pilot.

[@user-lt5no1xt1z]

Why on earth would you want to sign up for that

[@AdamHird]

@@user-lt5no1xt1z Because I drive an electric vehicle and I want to pay for the services I use

[@andybaker1784]

I thank God I don't live in Taxifornia

[@fladave99]

I thought it was all about the EARTH NO-ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY

[@kevinrodriguez7106]

Voting to put that 30 cent charging out of California

[@JesusAlways1st]

They should charge those who own EV’s. Those who own gas vehicles are paying their share!

[@EthnosSynergyEnergy]

Lots of people are also moving out of state. Why not just charge ev owners.

[@Wisecookies]

CA squeezing us too tight

[@eddie6968]

What about us truck drivers & companies who pay a California heavy highway tax of $550.00 per year per truck

[@dennistyler9852]

Can’t afford to own a vehicle, can’t afford the taxes, can’t afford the mortgage and can’t afford to go to work

[@user-uj5kn6co5q]

This sounds good to me if they charge by the mile instead of having a gas tax. The first words of an EV owners mouth when you ask them how they like their car is "no maintenance costs and I don't have to pay high gas prices."

[@clutchdisc8391]

Wake up, do you think they’re gonna actually take away gas taxes if they charge by the mile there’s no such thing they continue to charge both.

[@gustavocervantes5604]

We already pay too much

[@jyc313]

‘Totally at the control of the participants.” Perfect 😂.

[@ESUNintel]

Seems fair; electric cars are heavier and likely cause more stress to the roads, not to mention guardrails are having to be replaced since current infrastructure can’t support their weight. …not to mention that electric cars need roads more than gasoline vehicles; haven’t seen anything electric that’s able to compete with a 4Runner, Defender, Wrangler, Grenadier, etc…

[@thevoid1337]

LMAO, yea I will NEVER put a transponder on my car, and it's so easy to just take a photo every few days to show your miles and upload those pics when it's time for them to be sent in.

[@IFoundMyUsername]

They asked for it. There is a tax on gas to boost green technologies. What a brainstorm in CA ...