Calvinism Refuted: Unconditional Election | Book of Genesis Episode 53 | Pastor Allen Nolan Sermon

[@SherryYorkAuthorx2]

This message was excellent on it! Thank you for being brave enough to preach the truth!

[@mechele38135]

Thank you for your sermons, I am now watching Genesis. I have tried reading the Bible and understand it, Listening to your sermons is the first time that I have been able to understand it, love the way you explain everything. As a christian, I wanted to understand the Bible.

[@margaretpiner6799]

Thank you for continuing Genesis!

[@jimoyler1780]

You are growing on me sir. I appreciate your dedication to the word.

[@erichpengel1528]

Amen pastor Allen Nolan not all pastors are called by God some if them love the money they don't live God and the flock.

[@davidandrewasirvatham6207]

Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the WHOLE WORLD. God Bless you.

[@aletheia8054]

It says takes away the sin of the world not took away the sin of the world

[@Jojo32879]

Your statement implies everyone is going to heaven. Read John 6 v. 37-47 over and over until you understand that God draws people. Translation can also say “drags”.

[@jacobso223]

Thank you for your thorough explanation of Genesis. I now know more about the wonderful plan of our God.

[@mikewyckoff1123]

Well Amen for this one.

[@chuckw8391]

Another awesome teaching, Pastor Nolan, God Bless you, it’s Christmas Eve, merry Christmas ❤️🙏🏼!

[@markclifford1137]

This is totally wonderful. Thank you.

[@cocofernandez6688]

Pastor Allen I am waiting for Jesus and it feels like it will never happen

[@delgadorebinds987]

Matthew 7:7-8

[@robertwilczek6290]

It will happen at the exact appointed time. Stay faithful and obey your Savior and know that if you are here, God still has more for you to do. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@chuckw8391]

I know, I’ve been watching since I was a teenager, I’m 66, come quickly Lord Jesus🙏🏼❤️

[@jenex5608]

I know I'm late, but I was always wondering. Thank you sooo much

[@chuckw8391]

Well said, Merry Christmas🙏🏼!

[@boveega7]

Wow, what a fantastic message. I learned so much with this message. It’s thrilling.

[@swarlly325]

God bless you Allen I was really struggling with whether or not Calvinism is Gods way. I was getting confused there but you truly are blessed with wisdom!

[@ralphglass516]

We need to live by faith to be saved by grace

[@andrewbradice8916]

Thank you, great teaching. Does Pastor Nolan address the teaching on once saved always saved?

[@johndossey4590]

I have no option either way Im studying the scriptures to make my opinion, however I feel pastor Nolan did not explain the meaning of total depravity correctly.. The doctrine of total depravity asserts that people are, as a result of the fall, not inclined or even able to love God wholly with heart, mind, and strength, but rather are inclined by nature to serve their own will and desires and reject his rule.

[@andreamarrado]

Sounds like trying to find reasons for angument instead of spreading the gospel. If God chooses and we have no say on it, why even preach? Why pray for a certain individual to be saved? Again, splitting the atom.

[@johndossey4590]

@@andreamarrado no I wasn’t trying to be argumentative .. simply stating my understanding of the doctrines of total depravity. However per your comment it sounds like you are confusing the doctrine of divine election.. I suggest you read -1 Peter 1:1-2 NIV [1] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To God's elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia, [2] who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.

[@Jojo32879]

@@andreamarrado the answer to your question is in 1 Peter 4 v 6. Also, because Jesus commands it.

[@Jojo32879]

@@johndossey4590 I have several pages of scripture that make it clear that all mankind is spiritually dead. None seek God. Even worse, man is actually hostile to him. Something must be done by God before man can even desire him. It’s all in the scriptures if people would just read it before jumping to fallen human conclusions.

[@wwatkin21]

What about the scripture that says God mold some vessels for honorable use and others for dishonorable use?

[@aletheia8054]

And this… Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@Jojo32879]

What about when the disciples asked Jesus why he spoke in parables and his reply was “ so that they may be ever seeing, but never perceiving, and ever hearing, but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven”

[@diolenemarsh4451]

AMEN 10000000%

[@RESISTENCIAPOLOGETICA]

It is difficult after hearing this message to adhere to this fallacy in saying that there is no such thing as unconditional election, he never read the texts of Galatians 1.15ç Is 49.1 etc, please do me a favor! Marcos Lopez

[@llamalady8700]

He has read and studied THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

[@SherryYorkAuthorx2]

I had a firsthand experience with this, with a good friend and pastor. I had never heard of Calvinism, until, he told me about it. He believed three points of the Tulip. I did a lot of research after that and wrote a book on it. It is a religion used by the devil to confuse. I knew that I had been saved since I was 20 and I knew the Word. I am now 31 years old in the Lord. I knew, based on my personal relationship with the Lord, and knowing His Word, that it was a lie, straight from the liar of all liars! In the south, Calvinism was making a big comeback in the church through young preachers...seminary school preachers. Very sad, because many will believe it or turn a blind eye to it.

[@TheEngineer19]

and in southern baptist, pastors are raping children too, so this calvinism are not saved people for believing in a different God and different gospel..

[@aletheia8054]

Yeah I did a lot of research too and found out that most of it was correct I’m still doing research.

[@TheEngineer19]

@@aletheia8054 nope.. satan god of Calvinist is the same with MANICHEISM Gnostic god. Augustine being a Manichist before force into catholic because the emperor decreed "Christianity" to be emperial religion and will kill manichist monk if they will not leave the GNOSTICISM, of which Augustine was a manichaeism monk. Manicheism god operates like calvigod, the total deoravity is from them, the regeneration preceeds faith, fhe chosing who he wants to save and damn who he wants to not be saved is from Manicheism Gnosticist...

[@GodistheAnswer1]

The Decision of the Synod of Dort on the Five Main Points of Doctrine in Dispute in the Netherlands is popularly known as the Canons of Dort. It consists of statements of doctrine adopted by the great Synod of Dort, which met in the city of Dordrecht in 1618-19. Although this was a national synod of the Reformed churches of the Netherlands, it had an international character, since it was composed not only of Dutch delegates but also of twenty-six delegates from eight foreign countries. The Synod of Dort was held in order to settle a serious controversy in the Dutch churches initiated by the rise of Arminianism. Jacob Arminius, a theological professor at Leiden University, questioned the teaching of Calvin and his followers on a number of important points. After Arminius’s death, his own followers presented their views on five of these points in the Remonstrance of 1610. In this document and in later more explicit writings, the Arminians taught election based on foreseen faith, the universal application of Christ’s atonement available to all who freely choose to accept it, limited human depravity, the resistibility of God’s grace, and the possibility of a fall from salvation. In the Canons the Synod of Dort rejected these views and set forth the Reformed teaching on these points with the purpose of offering a deeper assurance of salvation to believers in accordance with the teaching of the Scriptures.

[@gaylezent9703]

I’m going thru the Genesis series using the sermon notes however this one #53 is missing. Is it available? Please send to me.

[@deansteele7243]

Yup i giggled;) with you.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

The Decision of the Synod of Dort on the Five Main Points of Doctrine in Dispute in the Netherlands is popularly known as the Canons of Dort. It consists of statements of doctrine adopted by the great Synod of Dort, which met in the city of Dordrecht in 1618-19. Although this was a national synod of the Reformed churches of the Netherlands, it had an international character, since it was composed not only of Dutch delegates but also of twenty-six delegates from eight foreign countries. The Synod of Dort was held in order to settle a serious controversy in the Dutch churches initiated by the rise of Arminianism. Jacob Arminius, a theological professor at Leiden University, questioned the teaching of Calvin and his followers on a number of important points. After Arminius’s death, his own followers presented their views on five of these points in the Remonstrance of 1610. In this document and in later more explicit writings, the Arminians taught election based on foreseen faith, the universal application of Christ’s atonement available to all who freely choose to accept it, limited human depravity, the resistibility of God’s grace, and the possibility of a fall from salvation. In the Canons the Synod of Dort rejected these views and set forth the Reformed teaching on these points with the purpose of offering a deeper assurance of salvation to believers in accordance with the teaching of the Scriptures.

[@aletheia8054]

No one needs to synod of Dort.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

@@aletheia8054 You might try educating yourself by reading orthodox Christian teaching prior to Arminium viewpoints that were contrived but not Biblical.

[@aletheia8054]

@@GodistheAnswer1 You have no idea what I’ve read. No one needs a synod of Dort to understand the Bible

[@GodistheAnswer1]

@@aletheia8054 Go your own way & understand what you think. Was only trying to convey that - arminian theology was debunked by prior Orthodox Christians when "" it first began"". It does tickle the ears to the Unlearned... **It was called Heresy.... Go your Way & I will go mine.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

It is indeed Strange & Even Funny That Those People are calling Calvinism Heresy & Evil. May God Forgive the self-righteous Arrogance & Ignorance. Only Bad People with Bad Motives would Spout such UnBiblical nonsense. **Today** it is only those who espouse the Arminium Theology - that degrade their fellow Christians. I certainly do not agree with them, but I do not call them evil names. But - Pastor Allen has decided that he knows better && he wrongly judges...As a Teacher - God will hold him & the likes of him accountable...

[@marilynfuller923]

I used to think I was a Calvinist. Pastor Nolan has helped me to see that I had not studied enough on this. I am not a Calvinist.

[@nelsonrecinos4354]

The problem most people have with predestination is this; they don’t believe in the sovereignty of God. If God is Sovereign, does not He have the right to choose who he wants to be saved??? Another thing; in the Hebrew culture of the Old Testament, The father will choose the wife for His Son. Didn’t Abraham choose the wife for Isaac??. So why wouldn’t God choose the Bride for His Son???

[@christianmama2441]

Yes, look at Jacob in Genesis, he wanted Rachel for a wife but it was Leah God chose to be the woman from whom Christ would come. Leah the wife he didn't prefer nor wanted to begin with. Exactly the same point being made: that it is God's election, not man's preference.

[@aletheia8054]

Yep

[@GodistheAnswer1]

The Decision of the Synod of Dort on the Five Main Points of Doctrine in Dispute in the Netherlands is popularly known as the Canons of Dort. It consists of statements of doctrine adopted by the great Synod of Dort, which met in the city of Dordrecht in 1618-19. Although this was a national synod of the Reformed churches of the Netherlands, it had an international character, since it was composed not only of Dutch delegates but also of twenty-six delegates from eight foreign countries. The Synod of Dort was held in order to settle a serious controversy in the Dutch churches initiated by the rise of Arminianism. Jacob Arminius, a theological professor at Leiden University, questioned the teaching of Calvin and his followers on a number of important points. After Arminius’s death, his own followers presented their views on five of these points in the Remonstrance of 1610. In this document and in later more explicit writings, the Arminians taught election based on foreseen faith, the universal application of Christ’s atonement available to all who freely choose to accept it, limited human depravity, the resistibility of God’s grace, and the possibility of a fall from salvation. In the Canons the Synod of Dort rejected these views and set forth the Reformed teaching on these points with the purpose of offering a deeper assurance of salvation to believers in accordance with the teaching of the Scriptures.

[@angelgaikwad9156]

@@christianmama2441 to beleive in the sovereignty of God, I don't think one has to beleive in Limited Atonement. Anyway Calvinists have their own JC John Calvin and not Jesus Christ whom they follow. Their understanding is based on the teachings of John Calvin and not Jesus Christ.

[@johnmcleroy3838]

​@angelgaikwad9156. how so?

[@RS-ru5ds]

another question I have is why we don't keep the Sabbath even though it is in the 10 commandments. Didn't Jesus say that not one word of the law is to be changed. ( something like that. I am praying to be able to share Gods word more clearly)

[@RS-ru5ds]

My question lies in the parable or wheat and tares ( not sure of spelling). Doesn't that mean that God planted then satan came along and added his own. Which would be not of God? Evil ones to carry out satans work that we can clearly see going on today?

[@CharmaineLangley609]

Thank you for the depth of knowledge. Oh for the faith of these patriarchs. Lord, teach me in my old agd (61)

[@timclark2925]

The true heresy is Arminian free will theology. The bottom line issue is this; Does God choose us as believers; or did we choose God? Just as God chose only Israel as His covenant people in the OT; God chooses only an Elect Sheep (chosen from both Jews and Gentiles) in the NT. Jesus told His disciples plainly; "You did not choose Me; but I chose you!" "That is why the world hates you; because I have chosen you out of the world." If God does not choose you; then you will one day here from Him; "Depart from Me; I never knew you!" There is not even a debate on this topic....the only reason there is a debate is because humans naturally hate the idea that salvation is 100% God ; 0% man. Many of the disciples hated it when Jesus taught what you call Calvinism. Simply read John 6:64-66 " Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.” From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him." If Arminian free will theology were true; then you would have NO NEED whatsoever for words like Predestination; Called; Chosen; Elect etc etc....The Arminian has to make up a bunch of nonsense to even try to explain what those words mean or why they are even needed.....

[@timclark2925]

@@allennolan To correct the lies!! Thats why! We are to stand for Biblical truth!

[@timclark2925]

@@allennolan If you really believe in free will theology then 1) you should go door to door preaching the Gospel 12 to 15 hours per day....why do anything else if people are going to hell for all eternity 2) with the internet you should be able to take over the world for Christ because there has never been an easier time to reach the world with the Gospel......but what did Jesus tell Peter....He asked Peter, "Do you love Me?" and what did Jesus respond? "Feed my sheep." Notice He didn't tell Peter to get out there and save as many goats as you can!" Did He? Thats because God builds His Church...Jesus said "I will build My Church!" He includes us in the process; we get to preach the Gospel. But He is not depending on us to build His Church. Jesus saves ALL the Elect sheep; not one more, and not less; ALL of them. Thats what Jesus taught in John 6 and John 10. God is depending on us to feed the sheep however.....and there are huge consequences when we fail to do that.

[@theConservativeTAKE]

@timclark2925 one of the best breakdowns I have seen...

[@timclark2925]

@@theConservativeTAKE thanks Brother....I do appreciate that. I don't get many compliments....:)

[@Jojo32879]

Why stop preaching on Romans 9 verse 13? Keep reading verse 14 through the 25. It’s very strange Pastor Allen stops teaching at verse 13. Please explain what the rest of the chapter means? Please stop cherry picking scripture.

[@Alan-hw1np]

25:20 "but because he foresaw that Jacob would repent and believe". You mean God chose Jacob because he foresaw that Jacob would come alive of his own free will? Are you saying that man is capable of waking himself from the dead when the bible teaches otherwise? (Isaiah 64:7 the word stirreth means to awaken). That is not true and you have contradicted God. Only God can resurrect man, we can do nothing by ourselves

[@Jojo32879]

@@Alan-hw1np John 6 Jesus explains No one can come to him unless the Father draws him first.

[@raymondgills4301]

Malachi 1:2-5 Which is the better translation for the text, hate, not chosen, or preferred? I believe the correct biblical exegete interpretation is hate. God laid to WASTE HIS HILL COUNTRY, left his heritage to JACKALS OF THE DESERT, and if they rebuild He will tear down the WICKED COUNTRY, a people the Lord will be ANGRY WITH FOREVER. This passage reminds me of 1 Samuel 15. For many Christians see God's character in the light of Veggie Tales or Santa Claus, He is always loving, fair, and forgiving. No, HE is GOD. He is outside of my parameters of understanding and I can not impose my values on HIM. Good job on Romans 9, salvation is not by works nor family heritage. Thank you ... Good Study

[@fanchonirber2933]

God is love he doesn’t know heat so that should tell you right there

[@trevajmaiden]

Why was Esau so hairy?

[@roselubbe9815]

Faith without works is dead (James 2:26). You are saved by faith if you are in situation liked the thief on the cross. The thief had no time left to show his faith by works. But Abraham's faith and deeds worked by putting Isaac his son as a sacrifice. God was pleased with Abraham! Therefore we all need to show our faith by obeying God's laws.

[@jakesarms8996]

God gives much to those he hates. Most people go to damnation. Election and predestination is biblical.

[@jakesarms8996]

@@allennolan Election and Predestination are not terms- they are actual words in the bible. Calvanisim is a term , and it's the first word used in this block of instruction. A better term would be the doctrine of grace. A better argument is will those outside the elect be saved? You're on dangerous ground going against election -

[@jakesarms8996]

@@allennolanHow many times does the preacher say "Calvinist" ? Like we are not Christians . Predestination and election means what it says in the text. Away with the emotional, animated , sing songy messages against grace.

[@jenex5608]

Predestination referring to Salvation is unbiblical

[@GodistheAnswer1]

@@jakesarms8996 Exactly; There are @ 100 places in the Bible that refer to election. Funny how only a few are brought up in this sermon for debate & even those were not properly analyzed -- only insulted.

[@scotthull2141]

Jesus can die for everyone AND know that not everyone will believe. He can also know this before the foundations of the earth which He made, then reveal His Sovereignty in His Word. it takes man to misunderstand the difference between God's understanding and mans lack of it. "I am the Potter, you are the clay..." Predestination is Gods understanding, (clearly) not mans. i understand it pretty "clearly"

[@aletheia8054]

The Potter makes the Clay however he wants it. It’s not up to the Clay to decide how its going to be made.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

As God told Job, Were you there ??? No -- Job was being Arrogant && God called him out. Arrogance is Not counted as Righteousness; Arrogance is Counted as Sin.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

The Decision of the Synod of Dort on the Five Main Points of Doctrine in Dispute in the Netherlands is popularly known as the Canons of Dort. It consists of statements of doctrine adopted by the great Synod of Dort, which met in the city of Dordrecht in 1618-19. Although this was a national synod of the Reformed churches of the Netherlands, it had an international character, since it was composed not only of Dutch delegates but also of twenty-six delegates from eight foreign countries. The Synod of Dort was held in order to settle a serious controversy in the Dutch churches initiated by the rise of Arminianism. Jacob Arminius, a theological professor at Leiden University, questioned the teaching of Calvin and his followers on a number of important points. After Arminius’s death, his own followers presented their views on five of these points in the Remonstrance of 1610. In this document and in later more explicit writings, the Arminians taught election based on foreseen faith, the universal application of Christ’s atonement available to all who freely choose to accept it, limited human depravity, the resistibility of God’s grace, and the possibility of a fall from salvation. In the Canons the Synod of Dort rejected these views and set forth the Reformed teaching on these points with the purpose of offering a deeper assurance of salvation to believers in accordance with the teaching of the Scriptures.

[@lawrencestanley8989]

Calvinism is BLASHPHEMOUS??? I swear, listening to non-Calvinists talk about Calvinism is like listening to a man describing what labor pains feel like... How can a lost person who is spiritually dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1), by his own innate ability (which he does not have, cf. John 6:63), correctly understand and interpret spiritual truth (1 Corinthians 2:14)? How can a lost person savingly believe in Christ when saving faith is a free gift of God (James 1:18) and when, by nature, man is at enmity with God (Romans 5:10) and will not (John 1:13) and cannot (John 6:44) come to God because he is enslaved to sin (John 3:19), loving only to practice evil deeds continually (John 3:19)? The Biblical answer to both of these questions is that man can neither actually nor logically cause nor contribute any efficacy to his salvation because he is spiritually unable to do so, that is, he is totally depraved.

[@scotthull2141]

that's right, well done. a "gift" is given. my Pastor also beats this anti-Calvinist drum and i've about had enough of it! why do these people and Pastors not pay attention to the Words like "chosen", Jesus clearly stating the "CHOSEN" were given to Him by the Father since before the foundation??... on and on i could go...

[@lawrencestanley8989]

@@scotthull2141 Maybe suggest that he read the small book by Gary D. Long, "Definite Atonement." It is by far the best book on the subject that I have ever read. I'm also going through another book right now by John Frame entitled "The Doctrine of God," it's a bit lengthy, but it's well worth it, and it's a part of a 4-volume work entitled "A Theology of Lordship."

[@jenex5608]

You just presuppose argument. I agree we have a sinful nature, but we have a choice to accept or reject jesus

[@lawrencestanley8989]

@@jenex5608 Except that the prerequisite to an individual coming to Jesus is that the Father must draw him, and the Father does not draw absolutely everyone without exception.

[@charlessmith4242]

@@lawrencestanley8989 * And, you know this how? You have no idea how the Holy Spirit interacts with individual people. Everyone is born a sinner, some gravitate more toward sin due to their environment, and their individual physical susceptibility to various substances, but that does not mean that God can not save even the most deplorable of sinners. God doesn't say to anyone " your to sinful to be saved". To often man thinks he can know the inner thinking of an all knowing God by using his miniscule mind. If someone misses out on Heaven, it's because he chose to reject God's attempt to save him. After all God knows the heart and the intent of every person.

[@sharonh4694]

It's a great lesson, but I'm not sure why you are using the NLT, unless it supports what you want to say. It doesn't follow the Greek in so many cases.

[@janabennett6989]

He read right through unconditional election in the following verse. "To everyone who believes " who is this? The elect right. If they believe then they are elect. Who saves you? God right! Does God know that he saves? Of course! So he knows from the foundation who he saves and who will be damned. EXPLAIN THIS! ‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [16] For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

[@timtownsend5252]

Are there some things God chooses not to know? -maybe for the sake of a personal relationship.

[@stankozubenko8520]

I've wondered that myself

[@delgadorebinds987]

Hebrews 4:13 Nothing in all creation is hidden from God. Everything is naked and exposed before his eyes, and he is the one to whom we are accountable

[@wayneroper3629]

So basically pastor Nolan is implying that Dr RC Sproul (RIP) was not smart enough even though he obtained degrees from Westminster College, Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh-Xenia Theological Seminary (M. Div), the Free University of Amsterdam (Drs.), and Whitefield Theological Seminary (PhD) because he was a Calvinist?

[@sircassie891]

If Jesus died to cover the sins of all, one of two realities must be true. 1. Jesus successfully did what He intended to do, and paid for the sins of all. Since He paid for the sins of all, all people will go to Heaven. The Bible speaks of people going to Hell, therefore this must not be true. 2. If not everyone is going to Heaven yet Jesus paid for the sins of all, His payment was an imperfect payment. Jesus is perfect and as seen Psalm 115:3, He has all that He desires. So, either Jesus blood, though sufficient for all, was only applied to some, or Jesus is Imperfect.

[@sircassie891]

If Jesus died with the purpose of saving all, and not all got saved, than His death was imperfect.

[@nelsonrecinos4354]

@@allennolan Salvación Is not based on God’s omniscience, it’s based on God’s decree.. Acts 13:48

[@christianmama2441]

@@allennolan Jesus died for all who would believe...well the ones the believe are only the elect....limited atonement, do you hear yourself?

[@christianmama2441]

@@sircassie891 The best arguments for limited atonement were written by John Owen in his book, The Death of Death in the Death of Christ. Jesus not only purchased the forgiveness of our sins but the finished product of our salvation (sanctification included). He looses none of His sheep, complete redemption, body and soul. Jesus did not die in the potential for people to choose to believe in Him, He died in particular for all the elect.

[@aletheia8054]

The Bible says Jesus died for her. his bride. So no one has to guess who Jesus died for it literally says who. Ephesians 5:25

[@LHarroldSD]

DID HE SAY: "Most pastors aren't very smart? they went into ministry because they couldn't do anything else." Sounds like hubris pastor.

[@raymondgills4301]

Thank you for your insight into scripture, it is a joy listening to you preach. However, you little secret comment, "pastors are dumb, lazy, and can not do anything else for a living" seemed very unprofessional. I know many pastors and most of us who teach at small churches have two or in some cases three jobs. I am not a Calvinist but the ones I know are very knowledgeable, intelligent, and well informed with the word of God. And yes, Calvinist are very aware of biblical hermeneutics and exegete.

[@sircassie891]

It is hard to believe see you preaching against a straw man. The “Calvinism” you are talking about isn’t true Calvinism

[@sircassie891]

It is important for us to remember this is a disagreement between brothers. Sadly, the belief of Calvinism(a term which I do not prefer) has been soiled in the minds of most, by Hypercalvinism, also know as Fatalism, who are not true believers

[@charlessmith4242]

@@sircassie891 * Could you please answer the question " what is true Calvinism "? Thank you.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

The Decision of the Synod of Dort on the Five Main Points of Doctrine in Dispute in the Netherlands is popularly known as the Canons of Dort. It consists of statements of doctrine adopted by the great Synod of Dort, which met in the city of Dordrecht in 1618-19. Although this was a national synod of the Reformed churches of the Netherlands, it had an international character, since it was composed not only of Dutch delegates but also of twenty-six delegates from eight foreign countries. The Synod of Dort was held in order to settle a serious controversy in the Dutch churches initiated by the rise of Arminianism. Jacob Arminius, a theological professor at Leiden University, questioned the teaching of Calvin and his followers on a number of important points. After Arminius’s death, his own followers presented their views on five of these points in the Remonstrance of 1610. In this document and in later more explicit writings, the Arminians taught election based on foreseen faith, the universal application of Christ’s atonement available to all who freely choose to accept it, limited human depravity, the resistibility of God’s grace, and the possibility of a fall from salvation. In the Canons the Synod of Dort rejected these views and set forth the Reformed teaching on these points with the purpose of offering a deeper assurance of salvation to believers in accordance with the teaching of the Scriptures.

[@sircassie891]

I had submitted an email to the given link and received no response. If you would like to message with me, you can give me an email at which I can reach you.

[@timothykeith1367]

If "a person is unable to respond on their own" and yet upon hearing the gospel, they believe in Jesus, and they are saved - what's the problem with that? Unless your goal is a church full of ritualized unsaved people, then it must be okay to just depend upon rituals like "coming forward" , saying a "sinners prayer" or signing a pledge card. If a person is unable to respond on their own, but they do respond and are born again - how would you ever know that they were saved by Grace Alone, or whether it was something that they did that helped to save them? If they are saved, then they are saved. This pastor is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I have no idea what the secret things of God are, and neither does this pastor. Is he trying to say that the Holy Spirit, the 3rd person of the Trinity is not involved in salvation? If Jesus died for every person who has ever been born, then Jesus died for persons who are in hell. That is not a Christian belief!;. That can't be true.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

God Chooses Us - Before We can Choose Him. Only if The Holy Spirit Allows - Can Faith Exist. Jesus Said that He Came to Savevthose that His Father had Given to Him && He would Not Lose Any of them. This is Stated over & Over again -- without SCREAMING. JESUS IS THE GOOD SHEPARD & HE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY OF HIS FLOCK TO BE LOST... THE REGENERATED Christian will not be lost - but taken into Glory... You are Saved by Faith - Not By Your Works ( any thing that you do ). Being Chosen by God is The Key....Only The Elect - according to The Bible -- will have Faith Increased so as to Understand ....Only the Elect will have their Blinders removed... Predestination is indicated throughout the Bible. This Teaching on this Subject is poppy - cock by someone who speaks quickly & rambles back & forth -- without certain straightforward orthodox teaching..

[@RaimoSurvo]

Romans 9:6 clearly starts to open that not all from corporate Israel are true Israel. It is not from ethnicity. God elected from the whole of Israel the true Israel. See verses 7-9 the language clearly is speaking in salvation terms. "Children of promise, children of God". We all come to different conclusions. I love all brothers and sisters in Christ.. but it makes me sad to hear this mocking tone when he speaks of Calvinists and says that many pastors are not just smart. He is wrong in that. In all Christian traditions there are smart men and women who have studied the Scripture and this is one of the passages. I am not one of those smart guys.. hope to be one day.. but I will change my views if I am wrong. I studied this chapter and the whole section, but the passage clearly speaks of salvation to eternal life. TULIP acronym is a poor one and is used often by non-Calvinists to summarize this doctrine. God bless you!

[@Jojo32879]

I taught my children about much of God’s word using many pastor’s videos on KZbin. Pastor Allen has been a beloved character in our home until I heard this doctrine. The Bible is clear on predestination doctrine once you are aware of it as you read. Yes, it is a delicate topic and must be studied with prayer. But- to imply that a true heavyweight in theology like RC isn’t smart enough to do anything else??? That man was clearly gifted and intelligent. Wow, just wow.

[@llamalady8700]

The only thing that matters is our salvation and we KNOW JESUS. One of satan's tactics is dividing the church and causing dissention. Let's be aware that we're giving the enemy an opening to work here and stop this disagreement. We can disagree without posting comments that someone is wrong.

[@michaelblanco6665]

The theological implications of what’s being said with regards to molinism and with regards to God basing His salvation of an individual being related on the actions of the person causes so many errors I have no idea where to begin. All this assumes that there cannot be a decree of God. God simply created but there was no decree so therefore God has to take in knowledge from future events and then saves the person based upon what they’ll do in the future. So many errors that if he’s consistent, he would be an open theist. Goodness me, this is what happens when you try escaping the clear teaching of scripture.

[@JeffreyMcKinley-pz2lc]

Love Pastor Allen but I would say this differently. All God's children are pre-destined for Heaven. None for Hell.This explains why the aborted or mentally ill still go to Heaven despite not hearing God's Word, repenting and seeking salvation. We're all pre-destined for Heaven, the only we can do is screw it up and willfully reject Jesus as our Lord and Savior.

[@Jojo32879]

“Did God hate Esau?” Hebrews 12 v 16 says -see to it that no one sexually immoral, or godless like Esau. His descendants were the Edomites and worshipped Baal. Whether its foreknowledge or not, God destroyed the edomites.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

Does God actually give everyone the ""same Chance"" No. He did not in the Old ir New Testament -- and only those who Are His will receive a Glorified Body... There will be more lost than saved && that is a Fact.. This is not Scriptural && You are Twisting God's Holy Bible. It is Fighting Words to Hear Someone Twist Scripture Into His Own Desire -- of What God's Will Is. God Clearly States that He will have Mercy on who He wants to Have Mercy on..He also clearly States in the Bible that Those Who Are Lost will also be used for His Glory.

[@pililani_blessings]

Great Preaching Great Teaching Pastor Allen. (Just alittle correction Brother in Christ....Please avoid putting your hands..one or both in pockets whilst preaching or teaching. Its not polite to do so, when addressing people Doing so, with/without knowledge incites the spirit of pride) . Other than that, Thanks brother. Thats an excellent teaching Well explained Thoroughly covered.

[@hornplayer1228]

When differentiating between Jacob and Esau we have to consider the reason God preferred one over the other. What is completely overlooked is that both spirits had to incarnate from somewhere in the lower spirit world where they had been confined since The Fall. We are not suddenly all born into human bodies from nowhere. Everyone is so concerned trying to ensure their entry into Heaven - life after death, but nobody gives any thought as to where we have come from - or "life before life". Was Jacob a spirit of better disposition or standing than Esau? They were fighting in the womb which suggests that perhaps Jacob was a spirit chosen by God and Esau chosen by Satan in an attempt to thwart God's Plan of Redemption. Until Reincarnation is recognised as the missing doctrine of Christianity (The Church Fathers acknowledged it) the great questions of Christianity will remain unresolved. God's apparent cruelty does not appear so extreme when one considers that He was simply resetting the chess board at the time of the Flood. Everyone was sent back to the Hell from whence they came and the human race was restarted all over again. I suspect most of us have incarnated and returned to Hell on several occasions. Thanks to Christ's Redemptive Mission we no longer have to return to Hell at the end of our earthly lives - we have the option of rejecting the ruler of this world and accepting Christ, whom we rejected so long ago, as the rightful King of Heaven and our Saviour.

[@rinihogewoning6528]

You mean, God centered theology refuted.

[@nelsonrecinos4354]

Sorry but You are mistaken, Calvinism does not teach double predestination.

[@j.timothydunn9454]

This pastor is either being deceptive or ignorant... Know this: 1.) Translations of bibles are done by comitees. It just so happens that God has given us our translations and commitees by Calvanists. He is eluding to the translations being wrong (and it just so happened that Calvinists translated all credible translations.) 2.) God created everything not arbitrary, but exact. Middle knowledge is the idea that God knows everything "because he is God". Divine Unconditional Election is on account of God knowing what He has made everything out of. Everything being everything aspect of a personality and your journey. Everything accounted for being all sin Jesus died for as well. Christ didn't ultimately die for every sin, ever... He could of, but according to what God put in an individual it will not be redeemed. Salvation is a gift. All have been called to recieve, but only the elect of Jesus Christ can recieve because they belong to Him. Any who enter the sheep pin by any other means than the gate is a thief. His sheep know His voice, because they were elected to recieve the word... not just lucky or smart. God does all the work in salvation, even calling you. If this isn't the case, maybe you could brag or boast about how you got in... it wasn't through the creator creating everything. It was because you heard the word and saved yourself. Ultimately brethren: it is God who saves not mere men responding to God, but God who has completed the work once and for all. Prideful pastors and hate filled pators hate Calvanism, because it is a doctrine you will understand... whenever you start living like your told. Not just in word or in action, but from the heart as God intended it. Answer this question: If Calvanism were true would you believe it? If your answer is no... then you do not follow the truth, move aside and allow others to heal from truth. If your answer is yes. Search John MacArthur unconditional election for a fair understanding of the position. It will make everything very clear.

[@randym.7238]

God has not looked into the future like some fortune Teller, and saw who would believe and who wouldn't, and then decide to Save! It is God who created the Future and all the events that are to take place in it! Those who believe in The Reformed doctrine aren't as stupid and ignorant of the Meaning of Scripture as this Fellow is claiming. All the events this Preacher spoke about came about only by the Will and purpose of Almighty God, NOT by Happenstance, and if he believes they did, then He's the Idiot, not me. If you don't Believe God picks and chooses whom to have Mercy and who not to, what do you think He did with The Flood of Noah? How about Lot's family and the people of Sodom and Gomorrah? Where do you think Sampson's strength came from, and when? Was it just by Chance? What about all the Peoples of all the Nations God has destroyed for the sole reason that His chosen people would continue? If God chooses to Elect those who HE saw in the future Elect Him as this Preacher stated, Then God's choice of Election means nothing! The choice would have been made FOR Him already, not BY HIM. "Free Will" doctrine is the most Self Centered Egotistical, Man centered Doctrine being taught in Churches today. It puts Man at the center of Salvation. The Reformed Doctrine, which is backed by Scripture, puts God at the beginning, center and end of Salvation, through Jesus Christ. To GOD be the power and Glory, amen.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

My listing of comments and proof keeps disappearing from here Because Somebody does not want to hear Proof that goes against the Narrative of this Pastor -- who speaks from an Agenda , Not The Bible Itself on Thus Subject.. Ok -- Hide From the Truth && Deceive the Simple- Minded; You will be Greatly Rewarded.

[@GodistheAnswer1]

@@allennolan Well, Evidently the KZbin Filters out any & all other links to the info that I have posted -- which certainly is Biblical & existed back in the 1500's in the Faith Statements of The Churches that believe in The Reformed Faith -- that are being " More than Insulted " in this sermon video. You can Keep your beliefs; I am not trying to change your opinions which are set in stone - right or wrong. I did choose to alert Fellow Christians of this Poor Practice... I actually believe in Freedom of Conscience; You have a right to your beliefs && I certainly have a right to mine. Never has Armanism been proven better than Calvinism... Yet -- You Wrongly Judge your Fellow Christians, who do not do so to you. I have attended Methodist & Presbyterian Churches & felt equally at home -- until some uneducated Methodist Preacher ( with an agenda) starting railing against the other denomination... Nuff said: I see hypocrisy & self-righteous arrogance in this Sermon && have seen it in other sermons from Pastor Allen that I actually admire on his grasp of other subjects. The way I see it -- He is blinded & cannot help himself.

[@Plethorality]

Jesus demolishes calvinism that why churches only teach from paul.

[@nelsonrecinos4354]

You need to read the gospel of Jon about fifteen times and you will know what Jesus said about it, specially Jon 1:12 6:39, 6:44 just to name a few.