Victor Gao, Esq | THB China Is NOT The New Imperial Power in Hong Kong | Cambridge Union (2/6)

[@Ko-hj5nt]

Democracy without the rule of law will be demo-crazy!This is an excellent video! Mr. Victor Gao's actions were exemplary in both respects!

[@acanadian162]

Excellent presentation by Victor Gao.

[@yangzhenjen3985]

Thank you Mr. GAO. You have my grand support.

[@f60s78]

Rule of Law is above everything.

[@padmanabhannair423]

Slaves of autocratic rule do not know value of freedom and democracy!!!

[@dacn7451]

Laws without justice are useless. North Korea has laws. Those laws are meaningless. If one were to play by the book (of law), there is no way the north korean regime of oppression and tyranny (same as the ccp) can be overthrown and meaningful change be brought to that country. The ccp is doing the same thing to China and Hong Kong just as the kim regime has been doing to the North Koreans.

[@prasadpapolu]

Dac N every country in the world, every people in the world shall decide what they want and how they live! There will be a struggle between contradictions when a USA or uk or some other big bully want to decide how people in other countries should live and govern themselves. Actually these two thugs have been enslaving, killing and bombing and burning people all over the world. China does not allow that. It is coming down these bullies by resisting them not with war, but with developmental work for their peoples marginalised and looted by these western thugs whom shamelessly forced opium on China, killed and burned China! The times have changed. The world people will slowly bring an end and chain your legs and hands and stop you from invading other countries, bombing them, drone bombing them and killing them anywhere and everywhere in the world. Count your days!

[@billielok]

Big applause to you Mr. Gao 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@elizachan4505]

Truely agree with the speaker!

[@victorchew151]

When did Hong Kong have democratic rights. Its after 1997, before that, the governors was put in by the British empire and not elected by the Hong Kong people. Since then all governors were elected by hkners and China constructed expensive infrastructures ie bridges and xpressways to link with the motherland. Extradition bill was passed and withdrawn according to the hkners wishes and now they're asking for 5. Hk government gave them a foot but now they're asking a mile with petrol bombs, destruction of public transportations and infrastructures. Tolerance has its limits, its time for the central government to come in to install the rule of law for the good of future Hong Kong.

[@dennyliu7494]

Well spoken. Strong message which fell in deaf ears.

[@kimhaoyap]

9 OK l

[@wyunaboy]

because it came from a communist cadre, full of lies and deceit.

[@brendalo6210]

Very well said. Thank you to speak out . A lot of Hong Kong people is not agree the riots and violence.

[@raymondyang7959]

Good Victor

[@bel68]

Thank you Dr. Gao for your excellent clarification.

[@myyrules]

Well articulated speech

[@williamlao5191]

SALUTE TO MR. GAO.

[@hoisanglam5918]

Law and order are very important than others!

[@yanliu4192]

Well done Victor! You delivered loud and clear the message from 1.4 billion people. Mr. Deng would be traumatized by the scenes in Hong Kong. Chairman Mao wants to come out of his memorial hall!

[@JSLeow]

The British returned Hong Kong back to CHINA, not to Hong Kong people in 1997. If these BNO holders in Hong Kong don't like to be Chinese, we don’t give a damn about them. No one forces them to become Chinese. The fact that they are occupying Hong Kong, a Chinese territory, yet raising British and American flags and yearn for their U.K. motherland is a complete shame on them! Over one billion Chinese will not allow Hong Kong to be separated again. You can call it whatever you want “Imperial China” or “Communist Dictatorship”, we don’t care. Hong Kongers holding BNO passports are foreigners in Hong Kong and the rest of China. So, get the hell out of Hong Kong, period - by Derick Lin.

[@BKLau70]

Rather shallow question from the floor. Typical if young ones today, who really aren't Chinese not knowing own history in Hong Kong. Shameful.

[@catherinewong36]

Well done Victor!

[@Khotang34]

Spoke nice and clear.

[@tonylam5322]

Well said Mr. Gao

[@clemayk]

Well said. Excellent take on democracy and human rights and the exposed hypocrisy which is so prevalent in the western world nowadays.

[@timothytimothy4008]

Great speech, very reasonable.

[@julijuliho]

Violence is not the way For demands !

[@virginiaho4623]

Great presentation, Mr. Gao.

[@yangzhenjen3985]

Victor Gao... You are great.

[@rsun2226]

Mr. Gao is respectful & respectable. He responds with knowledge & calm mood

[@perkymt]

Very well spoken. Thank you.

[@mickho6115]

A good demonstration of decent debate, basing on facts and respect 👍

[@littlesquirrel3310]

Thank you Mr Gao for your speech.

[@mohmeegaik6686]

Salute Victor Gao. You speak the best.

[@realbuddy6662]

Why Westerners kept enforcing their ideal system on China but most of them not even practise it yet, the speeches mentioned 😂🤣

[@saintmichael5814]

Because it is just an excuse.

[@samliew6610]

Yes, look at what has been happening in US .

[@kkoon621]

So much courage and so well said by Mr. Gao! Hong Kong really needs to get together.

[@wrenso82]

Those 2 kids at the background should be taught proper etiquette, imagine an important debate and they are smack at the background picking their nose and worst smelling their fingers 😖

[@michaelw7867]

Well said.

[@peterc4831]

Excellent explanation, Victor Gao. Freedom belongs to everyone, if one ‘s freedom interferes other’s freedom then freedom is gone. A Country’s top level security is its central government’s top priority, which can not be handled by local government independently. If so then the country can be easily divided and conquered, citizen will suffer.

[@djqiao1187]

Great Speech, Mr. Gao!!

[@wongchan3972]

a very detailed analyses deserved every hk people listen to and think about👍👏

[@padmanabhannair423]

Fact is the HK people who resorted to strikes are the ones who do not want to be under the CCP rule. UK so also the democratic free world have a responsibility to ensure they are not thrown into chaos. If they need UK citizenship which they deserve they should be given it since UK put them into this pit.

[@laurettafong]

Good elaboration on democracy and human rights! This should go to both sides but we don’t see we have freedom of speech since riots started last June, if we have opposing opinions, we are being sworn at with hate speech or lynched or doxxed! Fake news abound to the rioters advantage! We like to go back to life in May 2019 where we have the high rank of freedom in speech and trade environment.

[@rubbyahassan9619]

Thanks Prof. Dr Victor Gao. You are right. I was born, broughtup and worked in HK until retirement from HK Gov in 2003 age 55. I saw the suppress of riots in 1950s, 1967 and some not as well known. The HK Police were really harrassed the protestors under the order of the white senior police officers

[@gohcheesin7626]

Well said Victor Gao.

[@realbuddy6662]

Very good answer to the bias asker.

[@autumnfar3114]

Mr. Gao, thank you for telling the truth about China! I salute you for your righteousness ! Keep up with your righteous work! Stay safe and healthy!

[@yang5159]

Obey China s law regardless you are HK or Taiwan. The west don't have to obey China laws if you are not in China

[@vincenttan9367]

Well said Mr Victor Gao

[@daniellasun9289]

Very well said ! Congratulations to this brilliant clarification !

[@BruceWayne-el6dx]

Concise, precise & excellent speech of Victor Gao !!!👍👍👍👏👏👏

[@JulieN-v4r]

Mr. GAO a Brilliant Intelligent, Intelectual and well Knowledge Person. Bravo a Great Explanation from History, Law. Hong Kong is China and Will be China For Ever on History.

[@clarelau7484]

America do not have one person one vote. 450 Californians = 1 south carolina vote.

[@robertkong7546]

Support Mr Victor Gao , you are right .

[@allanchen9337]

Awesome wisdom of the Chinese! The world would do well to learn from the Chinese.

[@ashtonbailey3970]

Well said Victor

[@mandhojmagar3615]

Well done. Rule of Law comes first. Democracy does not mean anarchy.. Siamese twins.

[@christinecheung9709]

Excellent speech from Mr Gao who has accurately nailed the current political situations in Hong Kong where it has long been used as a leverage/platform by Western politicians as a means to undermine the economic growth in Hong Kong and China.

[@mahsudesh]

I couldn't help watching two young individuals sitting behind the speaker constantly humoring each other, talking and giggling as if they were sitting in a bar. I was especially baffled and disgusted by the one having a feast picking on his facial skins and boogers! Wouldn't these two disoriented clowns fare better visiting a game parlor than attending Cambridge Union talk? Victor made a clear point supported by logic and historical facts.

[@luckarl]

Totally CORRECT.

[@gloriavanhilton7195]

10000%right and correct!

[@clarelau7484]

The moral of the story is No western countries wanted to admit that China is coming along doing great and recovering from the last 300 years.

[@dcav100]

Well said💪💪💪👍👍👍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[@JSLeow]

“Tyranny of Majority”: {Democracy is simply a mob rule; it is neither right nor just; in fact, quite the opposite can be true, evil and unfair; the “Will of the People” simply boils down to a Tyranny of Majority} - American Founding Father John Adams, 1774.

[@01AHLEE]

This guy talked rubbish, the Imperial power is in London and not China.

[@chongthinchoy8735]

Very True.

[@waindayoungthain2147]

It’s my opinion on the people , the most important thing is to live with prosperity in any kind of political sympathy by adapting to equality . It’s not just Democratic or Communists or Socializing, we can’t be at the ideological of each system’s. But it’s how’s nice going with the people first. Since it’s democratic it’s not by laws or real freedom, in society we are, must live by rules and rights likely we play sports 🏀 by the rules and spirit in. 🙏🏼

[@freedomlife3623]

Does he call Chinese society Democratic society then? Really?

[@hakeembintwahachotai7065]

Muuguuu

[@michaellaw3732]

China is working on it. Transformation takes time and never a single step change.

[@clarelau7484]

He said there is room for improvement. He is pretaining to Hong Kong ...one country two systems. China is a work in progress..pls visit China to see.

[@kinwong7474]

Well said, Mr. Gao. Hong Kong has to have rules of law. We need judges in Hong Kong to strictly enforce the rules of law and severely punish those thugs and rioters.

[@easypeasy2991]

Bottom line, rule of law and respect of rights. The moment anyone starts to deny the rights of others, it’s over. Even what’s something seemingly peaceful - the occupying of the Central District in HK in 2014, is in a subtle way, denying many people their rights, to earn a living, esp. grass roots. What’s happening in2019-20 is a lot worse. Not only are they moving backwards from democracy, they’re moving backwards from being a civilised society.

[@gergerthebest5727]

Democracy is a natural human phenomenon when a certain level of self worth is achieved. Therefore, true democracy cannot be obtained by fighting or imposed on by external force. Although China has the title of a communist country, it is slowly moving towards a true democratic country. This is due to the whole population have achieved certainly level of wealth. This change and improvement of life make people feel free and liberal. Even though the population cannot elect their own president but they are definitely agreeing with their recent decades of political and economic reform. We cannot say the same for other countries where the population elected their president. The key point is to have the population gain wealth at the same time. If the gap between rich and poor is too wide, we will have different form of social problems like racism etc...this is the problem in the US. It is not about color. It is about wealth. Mainly, the black community lives in poverty most of them in comparison to other ethnicity in the US. If we can close the gap, the racial problem will diminish.

[@mymvds]

Democracy is not one size fix all. China has her own Chinese democracy like socialism with Chinese characteristics, Democracy with Chinese characteristics. All the countries around the world have different ways of choosing the leader and different voting systems. I have been told that “You Chinese don’t have communism in your blood, look in China and around the world all Chinese practicing very good capitalism. China had no choice to liberate China from KMT tyranny, patriotic oversea Chinese joined Mao army. Then liberate as People Republic of China. Ruled the China with communist ideology till 197-77, Deng Xiao ping re-emerge and ruled with socialism with Chinese characteristics. Well now China is practicing capitalist better than USA, said some western economic professionals.

[@dtothebtotheh]

So sincere

[@yingkingcheung9269]

Well said

[@paulcowderoy6403]

Where is the rest of the debate???

[@ikonoklast3158]

Good arguments But people vote based on emotions

[@clemayk]

That exposes the hypocrisy of using democracy and human rights to appease people and their emotions. Thank u.

[@Abbey699]

HK protesters are not democratic. They beat up the public with different opinions from them, destroyed facilities and businesses. They can have democracy but need to accept that other people have democracy too. In addition, their democracy should not take away other people' democracy. Their riots push China into having no choice but passing HK National Security Law.

[@BKLau70]

A reason why democratic system is failing, voting in the wrong people who present a fake image very well like actors.

[@helpingsociety4447]

Victor is associated to HIGH COMMUNIST system directly.....he is lying....not even saying RED CHINA IS BREAKING RULE OF LAW by cancelling the agreed 50 year FREEDOM constitution BASIC LAW internationally AGREED....WITNESSED with UK, USA Saudi Arabia.....

[@jasonkong3705]

What a mind twister!!!

[@darkofius]

It is strange to compare advance of Honk Kong under its own rule, City of Hong Kong, and Paris, or London and 'Shanghai, or any other large China city, Honk Kong have retrograded, Paris in London also when compared to Shanghai...

[@gofar5185]

thank you for clear nd simple words that details the matters of hong kong.. their call for their misguided demo crazy...

[@majorcalvary6515]

They learned from the best. British.

[@stephenlee1642]

UK must return Diego Garcia Island to Mauritius.

[@mohmeegaik6686]

Well spoken Victor Gao. China rule of law is good for China included HK

[@jirehgn7288]

It Is and trying to impose!

[@hpaul2864]

China’s growth on the world economy is the “one of the greatest achievements in world history”. The poverty rate went from 88% to less than 1% and life expectancy increase by more than 10 years. And many more achievement can be added.

[@jackchoi9766]

👍👍

[@zealousprogrammer4539]

Hong Kong is part of China, it is ok to love China - I hope to see the unification of Taiwan too.

[@alessandrodastamio5314]

HK is China.. not UK.. not US....

[@helpingsociety4447]

Simply follow international law Sino British agreement

[@makemap]

Never going to happen as long as Western terror groups/spies causing trouble and getting away with it just like all the corrupt cops in USA. I'm calling them Western because of USD, everyone wants to be rich right? They are millionaires since Mafia era. Just like Americans putting Canadian flag on backpacks just to be less hated. No one knows what the Western Gov/Groups are researching because it is not publicly informed. Cultist groups and terror groups are smarter and better since WW2 Nazism. They are not as dumb as street gangs anymore. Modern day China is just following their game now because Chinese in Mao era knows exactly what the Gov is doing. Not anymore. "If you don't play fair, don't ask for fairness."

[@kitshum9995]

Rule of Law and Democracy are two completely different dimensions. In fact, rules of law can be dictated by an authoritarian leader without ever consulting with the general populace (which is the case in China), or through a legislative process with democratic oversight (as in the several major western democratic/constitutional governments). The one incontrovertible fact/trend that we can see from history is that democracy/representation of the general population have usually been advanced through strife, a willingness to defy the prevailing rule of law, and armed conflict; the drafting and signing of the Magna Carta, the Independence Declaration of the United States, the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, to name just a few. However, we should also not forget about all those unsuccessful attempts, recorded or otherwise, when and where the suppressed would find the courage to rise up against an unjust and absolute authority that shuns and ignores the wishes of the ordinary people, that suppresses dissident views and oppresses the weak. As a lawyer, trained in the west, Mr. Gao, Esq. should have known that a signed contract is a binding contract. To unilaterally flout it is going against the Rule of Law. No matter the context of the contract, one must follow the rule of law to contest it, IN A COURT OF LAW. Progress does not follow from democracy, economic and technological advancement do not derive from democracy. In fact, a benevolent dictatorship would be the most efficient way of bringing prosperity to mankind. The democratic process is by necessity a slow and painful process. China has prosper within the last twenty years because they embrace capitalism, which was supposed to be the antithesis of communism. So please don't attribute economic success, elevated GDP, etc. to democracy. It is quite disappointing to witness this kind of arguments in a public debate.

[@cungcung5042]

I agree that a good rule of law should go through a democratic legislative process. That's why, like other part of China, HK rule of law is decided by National People Congress, the highest legislature body of China. Just because there are two governing system in China, one can't act freely by disregarding the will of whole nation.

[@googlerwunn7344]

Kit Shum FYI, if the land was illegally occupied by Squatters, there is no binding contract to speak of. In fact, the contract can even be rescinded unilaterally by China.

[@JSLeow]

Are you so uneducated? British PM is chosen by her/his peers of MPs elected to form the majority in the Parliament, whereas American President is first nominated by his party {Republicans or Democrats} based on the number of delegates voted for him in each state to run for presidential election, the results of which is by the majority of electoral counts from each state and territories. So, nobody directly elect either a PM or President.

[@michaellaw3732]

My understanding was most laws in the world were written by a handful of people not the general public.

[@Dihorse371]

@Kit Shum What Victor said was the protesters were wrong in justifying their law breaking activities in the name of "freedom n democracy". "違法達義"is what these rioters promoting.

[@BukarestRO]

🇨🇳💕🇨🇳 Peking will be the guaranty for freedom and social stability. 🇨🇳💕🇨🇳

[@winartotan5643]

How about america, are they not imperialis ?

[@ngchongtuan]

The raise of China, its financing components and its global strategic ambition have changed the world financial machanism making the West very uncomfortable in recent years. The world of finance will change radically as it is affected by world politics play by the West and China. Finding an optimum solution for the West and China along the on going adjusting path is not easy but if they are willing to work together, it could minimise the conflicts.

[@AliAli-es2zf]

Mr Kao: 👍👍👍👍👍

[@declanpainter2832]

And so they should. ..bravo China

[@Jennyhoicon]

This is what true HK Elite looks like!

[@lololololololo]

Huh... huh.uh huh...????. Rule. Have it. Excusing actions is juvenile... the world is becoming an adult. Self learning... not a fan. Unsupervised.

[@wyunaboy]

he keeps mentioning as the Chinese government but never mentions it as the communist Chinese government, why? this is itself a distortion of what Hongkong people really fight. the new imperial power is the communist Chinese party, not china.

[@the1onlynoob]

Does the British not approve of the next imperialist power as they aren’t brutal enough?

[@najialqhfa7231]

There is no 100% democracy, what is democracy, how justify democracy, Chinese way to build great system that left million out poverty, and be able to produce highly informed many great man and great leader like xi, may Allah bless us and this nation with more great leader like xi.

[@jackong1570]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@bigb6879]

much acceptable than j wong.

[@kimchan382]

In ten years Hongkongers will be immigrating to the Mainland, because there will be a better life!

[@kevinnguyen1840]

What rules of law are you referring to? The arbitrary dictatorship laws of the CCP? If so, you are not promoting the rules of law but propagating for the CCP. That is to say you are using this arbitrary laws to oppress the people.

[@merlinf2869]

No one will violently disagree to great britain being the old imperial power. But can anyone with right state of mind acquiesce to any country , other than great britain having being the imperial power, once, to be the new one? That's why the basis of this argument can't move an inch forward before it rattles and collaps by the shear weight of its very heavy title: china is the new imperial power in hongkong.

[@seiyachan]

Distortion indeed. You victor.

[@vanle9549]

😍😍😍😍

[@merlinf2869]

The speaker is 'drunk' (not by way of alcohol) in that he obviously can't fathom and unaware of the contradictions he found himself in, liken to a blissfully unaware frog being inside a big beaker of continually boiling water in a laboratory situation. Can't find a more finer example of the case of loss of sense of direction and bearings. Especially in the use of the word 'new', which has to, in certainty, means that great britain was or is as 'foreign' as china was or is. Needless to say 'drukardness' plays tricks on people's minds where everythings in faculty all got jumbled up.

[@lobstertao2903]

Yes you are right you never annexed Tibet, Xinjiang, Mongolia and now the whole of South China sea now you would like to have parts of India CCP knows what is next, all hail the great CCP