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@bruski41206 жыл бұрын
Camelworks this kind of stuff tickles more than my fancy (if you catch my drift) 😫💦😍
@NMG.116 жыл бұрын
100% like rate on this video so far :)
@crystaldanielle52036 жыл бұрын
Did you notice the weird audio in the background? 2:00 was that just ambiance or what??
@MasterMahan-qm8hu6 жыл бұрын
Camelworks Theory on Amaund Motierre: Just a theory, however, I would like you to consider the evidence for yourself and come to your own conclusions. Just want to provoke thoughts and ideas. I want you to look closely at Amaund Motierre in Volunruud...... And then look closely at the Motierre you meet in Whiterun....... It's clearly not the same person. Some have said and will say that the Motierre in Whiterun is supposed to be an aged/stressed version, but that doesn't make much sense since the mission could and can be completed rather quickly and even if you waited months, that doesn't explain the different facial structure. Furthermore, if one professes that he has simply aged, then why hasn't Rexus, who looks exactly the same??? There's also several other thing's to pay attention to that made me strongly believe the Motierre in Whiterun is a body double, aside from the obviously different facial structure and features. 1) While seemingly a whiny, snobby and spoiled brat, it seems Amaund Motierre is highly intelligent and capable. He supposedly formulates and puts into action a multi-layered plan that opens up the Emperor as a target. He seems intelligent and knows how to cover his tracks and tie up loose ends, it would seem. 2) In Volunruud, Rexus is there with him in case things go sour. In Whiterun however, Rexus is in an entirely different room. For a faithful servant who supposedly never leaves Amaund' s side, it was most peculiar to notice......I'll come back to that later. 3) Amaund Motierre is a descendant/distant relative of Francois Motierre, a Dark Brotherhood contract from Oblivion. He knows who he is dealing with, as his family has dealt with the DB in the past, and so is very cautious as a result. 4) When you ask Babette about the contract, she says, " The man you need to speak with, his name is Motierre? That's a very old and powerful Breton family, firmly established in Cyrodiil. Most curious........". There is simply too much about this guy and the situation that doesn't add up. It's also most unusual for supposedly loyal Rexus, who is always by his side and had sworn to protect Motierre, to mysteriously not be by his side if/when you decide to "alter the deal". And then it hit me........ If it wasn't a body double, which is a smart move that we saw in an earlier mission involving the Emperor (this lends further credence to such a theory) then Rexus might be the real "mastermind" behind the scheme. Stay with me........ 1) When in Volunruud, Rexus says very little and in fact stays back, to far back to protect Motierre, and observes the whole exchange. I also found it odd that he'd wear Imperial Legion armor which has never been seen on any type of personal guard outside of the Penitus Oculatus. This is a sound tactic, as he could observe and gauge the assassin's reaction, while having a human meat shield in case thing's go South for whatever reason. 2) Rexus is the only constant in this mission; he's there in Volunruud "guarding" Motierre, but not near his side when in Whiterun when it's clearly a different Motierre than before. Also, the Rexus in Whiterun looks the same as the Rexus in Volunruud, as opposed to the two different Motierre's. 3) This is kind of dark, but if Rexus is the real brains behind this operation so to speak, then he might have killed the first Motierre in Volunruud (just another dead body right) to keep things under wraps, and used a similar personal attache to serve as the Motierre we see in Whiterun, serving as an attractive target. 4) In Whiterun, you can close the doors and kill Motierre in private. Where's the supposedly loyal and never far from his side Rexus? In a side room that few would even check as they barge into the Tavern and them speedily make their way out after the deed is done. I know that many people may not have even noticed that Rexus was in a room off to the side. If Rexus is the brains/the real Motierre, then he could have laid out a tempting target, essentially getting the assassin to do the work for him this time and no one would be the wiser. And he could simply slip out the back door undetected and without becoming a target himself. And aside from Rexus wearing Legion armor, there's something else, Rex is Latin for 'King'. Make of that what you will. I for one don't believe the developer's at Bethesda gave him that particular name by accident. After thoughts: Are the two Motierre's you meet different men altogether? If you look at the still shots of them side by side, you can see most certainly they are not the same person. The Motierre's are in fact a powerful and old Breton family in Cyrodiil. A sudden political rise after the untimely assassination of the Emperor wouldn't be to far fetched. The member of the Motierre family that you meet in Oblivion may point to something as well. It's interesting in that you give him a poison to trick people (DB) into thinking he has died........ Motierre may or may not be after the Throne for himself, there may very well be some kind of conglomerate group he is apart of working together to make a power-grab for the Ruby Throne. Some kind of old school 9-seat Cabal meeting in a smoky boardroom in a deep, remote location somewhere in Southern Cyrodiil. Cheers
@MasterMahan-qm8hu6 жыл бұрын
Camelworks Wonderful theory Camel, I wrote a theory on this very subject some time ago on an Elder Scrolls discussion site. I will present it here. I also have a theory on Amaund Motierre that I will post here as well. Did Titus Mede II order his own assassination? IDK, maybe. Was he alright with it? It would seem so. I am going to approach this from varies angles and attempt to make an argument for them. Let's see where it goes! Titus Mede II is/was a Colovian Warlord/Warrior-King whose aware that he's become a political liability to the Empire. Even if he made the right decision in appeasing the Thalmor/AD, while the Empire rebuilds their territory, everyone believes he surrendered Tiber Septim' s territory to Elves and blasphemied against the God of humanity (Talos). He can't rally the troops or other province's around the Empire anymore since he has gone it seems from being a badass Warrior-King who leads from the front to being another word for craven. His every decision is suspect and the Nords think he's a weakling, along with many Redguards feeling the same way. So what's the best solution if not to kill himself? Or have himself assassinated? It fits with the Roman ethic of the Cyrodiil Empire and we see that Titus Mede is completely alright with the DB killing him. He's resigned to the inevitable and seems positively happy about the development. Mede ordering the execution of the 'person behind it' may actually just be him tying up 'loose ends' so know one finds out about this Grand Scheme. Mede II being assassinated by the DB allows him to end his reign in a manner that he can prepare for with a chosen heir ready to take up the cause/Throne. Furthermore, it allows the majority of the Empire's wrath against him to die with him. Titus Mede II the appeaser being killed allows a Mede heir (or a chosen General) to be the "Winston Churchill" they need against the Thalmor. A uniter rather than a divider. A side note: Do you think it is a coincidence that the book "The Brothers of Darkness" is on his desk? Bethesda is trying to tell us something with that. Be sure. A different rationale is this; Titus knows he is a liability to the Empire, and he knows his credibility has been shattered to pieces by signing the WGC. Maybe he didn't organize or order it, otherwise he wouldn't want you to kill his contract holder, loose ends or not. And Amaund Motierre says there is or needs to be a 'change in policy'. Maybe Mede stayed Emperor and never stepped aside because he knew the Empire needed some time to recover. If he stepped aside or died right after signing the WGC, the Empire might have just fallen to pieces, right back to succession crisis. Waiting a while for the Empire to somewhat put itself together meant that if someone has the political juice or acumen to kill him, they just might have the clout to replace him. And I think he would be ok with that, knowing the Empire is in good hands. Mede always seemed to be planning ahead, and is clearly far more intelligent than most gave or give him credit for. His advisors recommended rejecting the original Thalmor ultimatum, but he signed it anyway. His Generals recommended against abandoning the Imperial City, but he did it anyway. He then led what some would call a desperate attack on the AD to retake the Imperial City, which saw almost the entirety of their army in Cyrodiil slaughtered. Even when it comes to his death by the DB, he came to Skyrim against the advise of the Penitus Oculatus. He stands there and let's you kill him, despite the fact that it seems to make little sense to anyone around him that he's even there in the first place. I'm not sure what his end game is/was, but Mede seemed to be playing a much bigger game than anyone else could see. Considering the access the Emperor's have to the Elder Scrolls, and the fact that the only other Emperor we have any experience with (In Oblivion) took a vested interest in prophesy through the Scrolls, it's possible Mede may have been up to something only he knew. There are some paradigms to be drawn towards Mede's actions and the socio-political nature of Cyrodiil. He waged war like a Colovian and then tried to be diplomatic like a Nibean. In the latter case, we can't really say as of yet whether he succeeded or failed, as we're not really sure about the political climate after Skyrim and the attitudes towards Mede in Cyrodiil at present. Still, it's safe to say that he was losing political support and had he just stepped down, that lack of support would almost certainly had carried over to his successor. The sins of the father and all that. By being assassinated, he takes his sins with him, ensuring whatever successor replaces him starts with a blank slate. And an army on the Dominion's border............ Cheers
@MrDJ21056 жыл бұрын
it always bothered me that he didnt clap when he says "Rexus, the items!"
@ya_fbr6 жыл бұрын
god yes ! i mean , how hard is it to make another animation ? besides , i'm pretty sure it could be used for many other purposes , if it actually existed . or , if you don't want to do it , just don't do the clapping thing at all ! he could've just asked him for the items , it's not such a big deal .
@gavins.52976 жыл бұрын
I mean when people dance at a Inn they sometimes clap
@ya_fbr6 жыл бұрын
yeah , but i think they still dance at the same time , don't they ? that would be kind of weird . ' yes , we are here to discuss the assassination of the Emperor , now let me dance and clap my hands , while i ask my servant for the items ! '
@CharterForGaming6 жыл бұрын
FlanelFil They could have easily copied the animation and remove the dancing. Ir create a new animation. clapping is easy enough to make. Interaction with other objects is trickier
@ya_fbr6 жыл бұрын
oh well , then it's just simply annoying .
@laughingtraitor19695 жыл бұрын
It was all a ploy to cover up the murder of that insufferable body double.
@sirshotty76893 жыл бұрын
Maybe the body double and actually emperor switched positions and we were meant to assassinate the double but accidentally killed the actual emperor.
@rogirek33625 ай бұрын
Do you get to the White Gold Tower often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don't.
@MARQUARIUSZARNICKLE5 жыл бұрын
I love how the Emperor’s decoy has the same voice as Nazeem😂😂
@misterkid5 жыл бұрын
Had to be the most insufferable lol
@orcreviews19545 жыл бұрын
Looks like he finally visited the cloud district...
@Alex-dj7pi4 жыл бұрын
The same voice actor
@ogalo16534 жыл бұрын
Up next: Is The Emperor of Tamriel secretly Nazeem?
@AfroAnon45004 жыл бұрын
Mark Zarrin we've been killing Nazeem this whole time and didn't even know it.
@thatothermax92994 жыл бұрын
We join DB: Astrid, their leader dies. We join Thieves Guild: Mercer, their leader dies. We join The Collage: Savos, The Archmage dies. We join Companions: Kodlak, their Har-whatever dies. Coincidence?
@m4djust1ce4 жыл бұрын
Maximus2031 hey at least there’s the bards college
@thomasrial44444 жыл бұрын
I THINK NOT!
@bandawin184 жыл бұрын
Now that u mention it, these questline's endings do seem a little on the nose to me
@PlatoonGoon4 жыл бұрын
Protagonist syndrome. You always gotta be the top dog for whatever reason
@thenifell4 жыл бұрын
Nirn is known as "The arena".
@obeezytex54665 жыл бұрын
* vittoria dies doing a back flip* Dragonborn- “Weird flex but okay”
@Crusader-tg1wx4 жыл бұрын
death animations go whrrrrrrr
@JoeyDND4 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad somebody did a funny comment for this 😂
@David-Starwarsfan4 жыл бұрын
And dabbing
@AmigoRoberto4 жыл бұрын
Husband/widower "this is fine"
@broz.506 жыл бұрын
In the emperor’s room on a shelf hiding under another book the book kiss sweet mother can also be found which is a black sacrament tutorial. Just adds to the proof that he planned his own assassination himself. Although I doubt he ever performed a ritual.
@realzachfluke16 жыл бұрын
For The Sake Of Gaming oh damn I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing that dude!
@apa123APA6 жыл бұрын
I just assumed he was brushing up his information on the Brotherhood after everything that'd happened. Probably why he wasn't surprised when the assassin does show up in spite of Maro supposedly having wiped them out, since the Dark Brotherhood history is full of events with them being nearly exterminated.
@realzachfluke16 жыл бұрын
apa123APA true, true.
@fabien97656 жыл бұрын
Doesn't prove anything. Any Emporor would have had that kind of book with him. You better know everything that is going on in your Empire, especially that kind of thing.
@Sleepy_Apocalypse6 жыл бұрын
I also found nightshade within a bowl on one of his dressers that holds no real significants tho I just found it interesting finding a poisonous plant in the Emperors room
@MayorLag6 жыл бұрын
Titus Mede II was a wielder of Goldbrand, an artifact of Boethiah. Boethiah's domain is deceit, conspiracy, treachery and sedition, also referred to as "unlawful overthrow of authority". Her followers may gain her favor by expressing will and through deeds, rather than words. What greater deceit could it be, than to stage your own death? What greater deed could it be, how great would your Will have to be, than to sacrifice your own life to obtain results you desire - to go against Thalmor, bend the knee on paper (as words are meaningless to Boethiah, only deeds matter) and then die to provide Empire with an emperor it's subjects could believe in? Titus Mede II was the greatest champion of Boethiah in Tamriel history, and through his deceit, none were the wiser.
@ACH1EVE_CH1M5 жыл бұрын
Wow... wow, wow, wow...
@DuyroZeppeli5 жыл бұрын
That would be incorrect. It was the Forgotten Hero that wielded the Goldbrand while being disguised as Titus Mede II. It's in Elder Scrolls Legends' story mode fyi.
@E-Brightvoid5 жыл бұрын
But isn’t that another layer of deceit?
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim5 жыл бұрын
@@DuyroZeppeli That would just be another layer of deceit.
@DuyroZeppeli5 жыл бұрын
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Exactly. And it's canon. And it's another layer of deceit.
@hermannvonteutoburg99226 жыл бұрын
I died when you shot Vittoria and her husband just casually stares at his wife's corpse fly through the air.
@davidavaughn74065 жыл бұрын
Erik Hoffmann and he’s just smiling about it
@pedigreeann5 жыл бұрын
It was a political, arranged marriage. By the way, I once sneaked into Vittoria's house at night to see what there was to steal and I found her asleep in bed with a man not her husband-to-be. Not pining for young Snow-shod.
@Subject755 жыл бұрын
@@davidavaughn7406 cant blame him, cracked me up as well
@thomasjenkins75065 жыл бұрын
she died with style, fitting of a wedding. that last kick was amazing, too.
@TheTaintedWisdom4 жыл бұрын
"Honey... please. Stop. You're embarrassing me..." "NO! I MUST DANCE!"
@muffinman25465 жыл бұрын
11:44 Amaund Motierre screaming the top of his lungs in praise that the Dark Brotherhood isn't dead and that they are still planning to kill the emperor makes the rest of The Bannered Mare seem incompetent as to not intervene in this blissfully obvious scheme. And yet he threw a hissy fit about 'discretion' when questioned about his personal life. smh
@GoldenSunAlex2 жыл бұрын
Well, that's...not actually Amaund Motierre. His appearance after his initial is a completely different character model that looks vaguely like him. Enough time will have passed that players won't notice it on a first playthrough. ES games don't do that - in fact, Amaund Motierre is the only character in the ENTIRE game series to have that happen. TLDR: Amaund Motierre sent a decoy the second time onwards.
@benraby5775 Жыл бұрын
@@GoldenSunAlexincredible tidbit if true
@multigamer856 Жыл бұрын
@@GoldenSunAlex Funny I've actually had that feeling, when I encountered Amaund in The Bannered Mane, wait.. is this the same character? He looks different. Now I know I wasn't incorrect about this assumption. Interesting theory that real Amand Motierre is actually still alive and he somehow knew the emperor would want to take himself with him into the grave. And he and the emperor both had decoys too, wow.
@GoldenSunAlex Жыл бұрын
@@multigamer856 Nice you spotted it by yourself! I didn't realise it till I saw the two models side by side when someone did a youtube vid about it. My personal theory is that him and the Emperor were in on it together.
@hazeltade3679Ай бұрын
The voice actor did great I think he just wasn’t given enough context lol
@megamorphiweenis10835 жыл бұрын
I think the other assassin is meant to protect the lore just in case you destroy the dark brotherhood.
@dacraka54765 жыл бұрын
MEGA MORPHIWEENIS it’s a sick bay. That’s why there’s an alchemy table and I believe health potions. On my playthrough, the sailor wasn’t stuffed under the bed, he was on top. So it must have been glitched out for his playthrough
@dacraka54765 жыл бұрын
I will say that the invisibility potion is unsettling and does support the assassin theory. But I think it was just placed there by devs to help get you to Titus.
@EmberwindTale5 жыл бұрын
@@dacraka5476 or what if your playthrough was glitched and he was actually supposed to be under the bed?
@waddle_plop4 жыл бұрын
@@dacraka5476 Nope, he is meant to be under the bed, as he always is in my playthroughs and as many other Skyrim videos have mentioned. Yours is the one that glitched. Also, it is nothing like the "sick bays" we see elsewhere in the game with wounded, groaning people in temples, military camps, etc. Only a dead guard, a dead sailor, and a totally chill "sailor." I think Camel is spot on, and @MEGA MORPHIWEENIS has a great point.
@santicheeks11064 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking that, so maybe the emperor is meant to die
@shannasemenza88216 жыл бұрын
any one else want to smack Amaund when he starts shouting about where the Emperor is while in a tavern?
@prince_nocturne6 жыл бұрын
Every time. Sitting in the middle of a bunch of people "I STILL WANT THE EMPEROR DEAD!" well... okay, just tell the whole legion while you're at it...
@jerichohill4876 жыл бұрын
Shanna Semenza every time all I can think is "amateur"
@Junebugz73756 жыл бұрын
Yeah,and whiterun’s political climate is generally loyal to the empire too
@Mathadar5 жыл бұрын
I think it was brilliant, because it also suggests to the player about "tying up loose ends" by killing him, thus leaving Rexus a.k.a. the real Amaund Mottiere to get back to Cyrodil, without having drawn attention to himself.
@SallinKari5 жыл бұрын
@@Mathadar I mean that didn't work out well for him in my play through as I assassinated Rexus on the way out just to be sure.
@tonysmith32325 жыл бұрын
I like the theory, and on further investigation, I noticed a few things... Not only did the emperor arrange his own death, he also arranged for a particular successor. Hear me out: The targets themselves provide more clues. 1)The Gourmet was simply in the way, a means to an end- BUT, the impersonator had to die so he didn't assume the public role of emperor, likely as a puppet to the true threat that the emperor was trying to mitigate by his own martyrdom. 2) Vittoria: She had to die so that she didn't cloud the issue of succession, especially after marriage and the production of an heir. 3)Maro had to die discredited and labeled traitor not only so he couldn't assume the throne (as has happened in real-world history, see the history of the praetorian guard), but also to curtail his father's attempts to control the throne. His father was way too well informed, and was the only real obstacle to completing the contract, indicating one of two things: either he was not taken into the emperor's confidence, indicating a lack of trust- or- he was actually in someone else's employ... The Dominion, by chance? Who could more directly need a tool in the throne? 4) Motierre's death, if you choose to kill him, can result in you receiving an inheritance... From Motierre himself. Why??? Who was the "deal"with and to what end? The inheritance and the deal are not related. You're in his good graces and receive an inheritance in the event of his death because of all you did to help him gain the throne- which was his deal with Titus. Titus used Motierre as a pawn to arrange his own death in exchange for the throne, but knew he couldn't leave the throne in the hands of such an immoral man that would willingly arrange several murders to get it. Motierre's comment about it being a blessing if Titus killed himself showed two things: he didn't like Titus and wasn't helping him out of duty or devotion, and also that he wasn't aware or didn't care that Titus' suicide would be a BAD thing for the empire. All in all, Camel's theory is sound, and using his theory as a basis, I expounded on it to create this further theory, which reinforce each other in turn.
@IYPITWL4 жыл бұрын
Tony Smith... Basically Titus was playing Imperator
@aurenkleige4 жыл бұрын
Okay, this is epic.
@DGARedRaven4 жыл бұрын
Good thinking. There may be more than just a kernel of truth to this.
@dereinzigwahreRichi4 жыл бұрын
This also goes along well with Motrierre giving his amulett instead of the gold he obviously had, too...he doesnt need something showing he is a member of the imperial council he IS going to be the Emperor.
@kegwg18304 жыл бұрын
I see your last point with Motierre but what I can’t explain how good is your theory and the theory shown in the video connectable as the Emperor would want to die and be assassinated but on the other hand why would Titus want revenge for Motierre carrying out the Emperor’s wish? It doesn’t really make too much sense You could argue that Motierre was so eager to get the thrown he was just being selfish but why should Titus
@Raptorman02056 жыл бұрын
24:00 I still love what he says when you're in both the Brotherhood and the Guild at this point "Oh. Oh I see. Well, you're making friends all over, ain't ya?"
@Mr_Peem5 жыл бұрын
Raptormann0205 not funny
@Mr_Spaghetti5 жыл бұрын
Matthewm 1802 shut da fuck up!
@AmadisLFE4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Peem Was it meant to be? >.>
@GobaGNon4 жыл бұрын
Matthewm 1802 Shut the fuck up
@TallCanDan024 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Peem shut the fuck up
@tiagox32755 жыл бұрын
"Don't you have all the information you need? Please, the Emperor isn't going to kill himself. Hmph. Now wouldn't that be a blessing..." ―Amaund Motierre Now that line carries a whole different meaning!
@deiansalazar1402 жыл бұрын
Elaborate?
@marcosrodriguez.97532 жыл бұрын
@@deiansalazar140 the video theorizes that he ordered the assassination of himself, which would be killing himself indirectly
@deiansalazar1402 жыл бұрын
@@marcosrodriguez.9753 but the blessing bit
@will2brown502 жыл бұрын
@@deiansalazar140 because it's meant to be ironic. The emperor is killing himself, as a blessing to the empire.
@deiansalazar1402 жыл бұрын
@@will2brown50 oh okay, I couldn't see the irony in the sarcasm. Autism ya know?
@chriskoloski322 жыл бұрын
I enjoy that Delvin, immediately after starting to warn us about repercussions for killing a council member hes like "sure I'll buy the necklace"
@gavinakrolin7997 Жыл бұрын
His desire to collect rare items is stronger than his self-preservation.
@rimanahbvee6 ай бұрын
@@gavinakrolin7997 hes just like the average player, we love collecting shit
@J_Squatch6 жыл бұрын
7:06 "Sick flip babe... b...babe?"
@thelaughingrouge4 жыл бұрын
I laughed way too hard at this. Perfect time stamp.
@ChocoFlyJMoCo3 жыл бұрын
shitting and pissing myself at this comment lmao
@LeFaisDoDo3 жыл бұрын
hell yeah dude
@myles38563 жыл бұрын
Truet
@RoxyLuffer6 жыл бұрын
Emperor Tidus Mede II is actually my favourite character in all of Skyrim, despite his rather short appearance, and few lines. His character is really well written, and exudes the kind of ambience you'd expect from a good king/emperor. I kind of felt bad killing him.
@IRedpunk Жыл бұрын
that's the thing, he wasn't a good emperor. If he was, his empire wouldn't be in ruins and crumbling before our eyes.
@gingerjack8863 Жыл бұрын
@@IRedpunk He can’t be solely blamed for the state the empire was in the Concordant was a better deal than they were going to get originally. His plan to retake the Imperial city was a huge success and forced the Thalmor to be more lenient in the treaty. The Thalmor were still winning the war in Cyrodil, they had greater numbers and where still in control of most of Cyrodil. That doesn’t include the state the empire was in after the Oblivion crisis. Which happened before the Emperor was born. The truth is that he was dealt a terrible hand from the start. The video shows he is laying the foundations for the Improvement of the Empire. He was willing to die not in a last stand but in an assassination to help his people in the long term. If that’s a bad Emperor then Tiber Septim wasn’t a badass.
@goatslayer3160 Жыл бұрын
If this theory is true and he ordered his own death that means he also ordered his cousin's at her own wedding. He doesn't deserve anyone's sympathy.
@cosmic2750 Жыл бұрын
I really like the character too, despite for different reasons. It very much solidifies your assassin character as "Kingslayer" or "Killer of Kings" (or, inspired by the Witcher 2, "Assassins of Kings"). His demeanor only gives more effect to that title of "Assassins of Kings".
@WolfgangRP Жыл бұрын
And if Bethesda weren't so raildroady, you would have the choice to spare him, the quest advancing to an alternate ending. We can all dream...
@gmanthetrue70935 жыл бұрын
The emperor say's he don't fight you. But if you pickpocket him and you get caught he attack you. LMAO
@christianmarrero51964 жыл бұрын
Assasination is one thing, petty thievery is where he draws the line!!😂
@essexclass81684 жыл бұрын
he wanted Martyrdom not Molestation
@barisi.84544 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, he is taking one of the weapons and run after you, same as astrid if you bash astrid with bow while she is waiting for her death, she gets up and try to punch you and fall immediately :-)
@GHOST58000004 жыл бұрын
courage illusion spell, then hell try to kick your ass
@MVDfree4 жыл бұрын
"Of course you wont mind if I fondle you first? No? Okay, I wait until after."
@Great_Olaf53 жыл бұрын
That conversation with Titus Mede really proved to me he deserved to be emperor, regardless of his heritage. He reminded me so strongly of Uriel Septim VII in his final moments, it was uncanny, and likely intentional. He wasn't quite as mystical about it, but he was just as accepting of the inevitability of his death. Gave me shivers.
@VeryProfessionalGamer Жыл бұрын
Most people who rule, especially for a longer time, come to accept that they might get burned someday. Kings and Emperors were the most likely to.
@redlabsgaming5086 Жыл бұрын
I've never thought about that
@Skip.8221 Жыл бұрын
That’s how I felt as well. Despite the fact that whenever I did the Dark Brotherhood questline I knew nothing about the elder scrolls lore and was a devout Stormcloak supporter, I still got the feeling that he was a solid emperor (since at the time I blindly hated the Empire)
@leveebreaks6496 Жыл бұрын
he actually was so kind and gentle when asking to murder Motierre i just couldn’t resist, a vendetta but asked in such a noble way…
@beefrd5 жыл бұрын
therapist: “Titus Mede’s eye-mouths aren’t real. That can’t hurt you.” Titus Mede’s eye-mouths: 16:13
@viveka29944 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@joebobby14124 жыл бұрын
Nothing will ever be more cursed than Trump’s eye-lips. Nothing.
@Chico_Julio4 жыл бұрын
That makes me remember that video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJPIoYFqmbB_mLc
@myles38563 жыл бұрын
😂
@deecoe3726 жыл бұрын
There's also the fact of where and when and how. As you point out, he dies in Skyrim, then in the midst of a war of the Stormcloaks against the Empire. A good number of Nords may dislike Titus Mede himself...he signed the White Gold Concordat outlawing the worship of the traditional primary god of the Nords. But he also knows the continued Stormcloak rebellion weakens the Empire on several levels. First and most obviously, it costs Imperial resources, both treasure and manpower..something he wants to stop before the inevitable resumption of the Great War. Second, aside from the Imperials, possibly the most respected and worthy warriors the Empire depended upon were...the Nords. In order to end the rebellion AND bring the Nords into a state where they might be willing and indeed desiring the repair of relations between the Nords and the Empire would be twofold...the blackening of the Stormcloak reputation and the possible resumption of the worship of Talos. Remember, Vittoria V was assassinated while...and perhaps BECAUSE she was marrying a person favoring the Stormcloaks. To assassinate her would at least appear to point the finger of blame at the Stormcloaks or at least the more fanatical among them. The assassination of his double also makes it appear that the assassination of his niece and (eventually) himself, were not coincidental but the result of a coordinated plot. Then he is assassinated in the major Imperial supporting city and province of Skyrim. The fingers all point at the Stormcloaks. So, by dying in this way he strengthens the Empire in Skyrim...Nords pride themselves on honor...killing a bride, a servant of the Empire and the Emperor himself by ASSASSINATION rather than honorable combat and at the hands of the most feared and despised order of assassins...it doesn't make Ulfric's followers look that good. By having it done in Skyrim, it lessens the appearance of an Imperial political assassination...why kill the Emperor in Skyrim when any rival for the throne could do it right in the Imperial City? It also doesn't make the Thalmor look any better...they supposedly are in favor of Titus Mede...but they couldn't (or wouldn't) protect him. (As the player will become the head of the Dark Brotherhood and MAY have in his or her possession a copy of that Thalmor "Dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak", it could make the Thalmor even more suspect. Something about calling Ulfric a Thalmor "asset"?) And finally and most importantly as you point out, it makes way for a new Emperor...one who can, with some justification, refuse to honor the White Gold Concordat...he didn't sign it and I suspect the successor was not totally in favor of signing it. Revoke the Concordat and I suspect the first order the new Emperor would give would be the restoration of the worship of Talos...who was after all the deified Tiber Septim...the FOUNDER of the Empire. Nords would almost universally hold such an act to be a restoration of relations with the Empire. No more civil war, the blackening of the reputation of the Stormcloaks (and tangentially the Thalmor)...no more loss of treasure of manpower, indeed an increase in potential manpower...and a fairly honorable causus belli to restart the battle against the Dominion.
@availabIe5 жыл бұрын
This makes no sense at all
@Wired_User5 жыл бұрын
unavailable No, it does. It’s the kind of emotional “logic” that politics is built upon. You have a, currently small but dangerous, rebellion in a very honor-obsessed warrior province. The empire doesn’t have much of a chance to fight, as almost all of their soldiers are Nords, the very people rebelling. Kill the cousin of the emperor in the biggest pro-imperial city in Skyrim. The public opinion will be that this assassination was due to her marrying a Stormcloak-friendly man. This makes the Stormcloaks very angry, and makes the Imperials look bad. 125% guarantee this fuels some Stormcloak attacks that we don’t see. Later, an attempt on the emperor’s life, and then a successful assassination. This will be pinned on the Stormcloaks in the court of public opinion. Someone ordered the DB to kill the Emperor as retaliation for the (also DB) assassination of a bride on her wedding day for her husband’s political leanings. Remember, the people don’t know that the Vittoria’s assassination was simply a means to an end, and that rumors are treated as facts in public opinion. So in the public’s minds, they KNOW the Emperor was killed as retaliation for the killing of Vittoria, and both killings were politically influenced by the Stormcloak rebellion. Instantly the Stormcloaks look like horrific, dishonorable terrorists who retaliate in the worst possible way. All but the most diehard Stormcloak supporters will INSTANTLY turn away from the rebellion and fully support the empire. Without the rebellion weakening the empire, they’ll stand a better chance against the Thalmor.
@prisonerofthehighway10595 жыл бұрын
Blue 2003 Toyota Echo - Vici’s assassination is what bothers me. I’d have put it out publicly that the emperor was going the use his cousin’s wedding as an excuse to come to Skyrim and broker a peace deal. After he’s dead, put out the rumor that the Thalmor had him killed to prolong the civil war. The legion is professionally loyal to the emperor and the Stormcloaks hate the elves. With both sides pissed at the Thalmor, the new emperor could come in and negotiate a settlement. Maybe Ulfric goes into exile and someone neutral like Baalgruff becomes High King of a semi autonomous Skyrim. Vici’s death is what causes me to doubt the whole theory. It sows confusion instead of directing public opinion against the real enemy. That makes it seem more like a Thalmor plot. Pinning the blame on the Stormcloaks and drawing more of the legion to Skyrim and further weakening the empire. Assuming Bethesda doesn’t go under before we get TES6, I think canonically, the Dragonborn will be the next emperor. It’ll be interesting to see if we ever get the truth about Medes assassination. .
@viveka29944 жыл бұрын
I think that The Empire is Germany during the Depression and the Thalmor are the Allies, and the name "the Great War" suggests that maybe a hitler like human will rise and restore the Empire to glory while genociding millions if elves and eventually conquering Tamriel in the Second Great War.
@maverickdarkrath47804 жыл бұрын
Wait the empire would be suspect since it happened in solitude the empires main base of operations in skyrim, ironically this would make them look bad one person even points out he believes it's a conspiracy by the imperials, the emperor would probably be blamed on the stormcloacks because it was outside of the city in other words both sides will blame each other nobody wins
@Sera-F1nn5 жыл бұрын
Look at him. Look at Titus Mede II. What an Emperor. I ADORE the interaction we have with him on the ship. His presence is so... respectable. He takes such a regal posture in the face of death. I am in awe.
@roflguy1143 жыл бұрын
And with uriel septim in oblivion.
@ivanf.4823 жыл бұрын
Goobye Imperator.... What a man.... sacrificing his life for the Empire.... ♥️
@Snazzy123413 жыл бұрын
The man is willing to send his soul to Sithis just so that the empire could have a slight chance at defeating the Aldermeri Dominion. Absolute GOAT
@will2brown502 жыл бұрын
@@Snazzy12341 megachad. The Mede dynasty are arguably more worthy of the ruby throne than the septims
@aaronforsyth34862 жыл бұрын
@@will2brown50 than the guy that conquered the entirety of Tamriel…?
@simeonrice60474 жыл бұрын
I always feel bad for Vittoria Vici. She didn't deserve to die, honestly. Just gives the meadry guy more to mourn about than just his sister.
@finlaywallbanks73042 жыл бұрын
He died as well, bloody veezera came in and stabbed them all in my playthrough
@darkwolfag122 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's fair, but apparently if you dig into Vittoria vici character more, you find that she sleeps with Aquillius Aeresius in solitude, who so happens to be her assistant and goes on to being the director after she is killed. She doesn't sound exactly excited to be marrying Asgeir Snow-Shod, if you talk to her before and/or during her wedding. It even sounds like a act if you listen to her dialogue. Plus, this might not be exactly canon, but in the creation kit she's the boss of both Deeja and Jaree-Ra. (The two black blood marauder argonians who plotted the raid of Ice runner in the quest in "Light's out") It could be just coincidence, but you have to admit it's a little suspicious. She's not so innocent if you look at it.
@phoebe80862 жыл бұрын
@@darkwolfag12 i never knew that, that’s so cool. Makes me feel a bit better when killing her during the quest line 😭😂
@olivercharles29302 жыл бұрын
@@darkwolfag12 Idk lol, cheating seems a bit tame compared to cold blooded murder.
@olivercharles29302 жыл бұрын
It reminds you that you are in fact part of a group of cold-blooded assassins. Innocence and guilt is meaningless, only the contract matters.
@firetarrasque46674 жыл бұрын
If Tidus Meade II had lived during any other period of time, he would have been remembered as a good emperor, even a great emperor. But he lived at a time only the truly exceptional might have succeeded and, alas, he was not Tiber Septum.
@Altair1243WAR2 жыл бұрын
Except for the fact he signed the one document which was going to destroy the empire? At the very least, I refuse to believe that signing the white-gold concordat wasn't a foolish mistake I mean, if nothing else, there's no way the Thalmor could possibly conquer & retain the while of the empire. Disregarding the racial tension that would cause, they would for a long time be seen as the aggressor (plus the racism) leading to a long campaign of guerilla warfare & rebellion Once you reach that size you don't just "lose", unless you do something to foster distrust among yourselves
@svenrio85212 жыл бұрын
@@Altair1243WAR It was a necessary sacrifice. The Imperial Legions were reduced by 80% by the time it was signed, Cyrodiil and Hamerfell were devastated by the Thalmor and the elvish homelands were still intact. That means the Empire would have to fight through forts and well placed chokepoints with a greatly understrenghed army if they wished to "win." This is of course only the military situation as the Imperial economy was in an even worse state. How much longer could the Empire even maintain the troops? Perhaps a year at most, certainly not the 5 years it took the Redguards to free their land. And this was with help from tons of "ex" Imperial Legionairs mind you. In short signing the treaty when Titus did was the wisest decision, perhaps not the decision his people wanted, but a necessary decision nonetheless. Besides with the time bought with the treaty a new generation of humans were born and raised. A generation that is now at the age to join the Imperial Legions, meanwhile the Mer breed far slower than men and have not yet replaced the losses they suffered during the First Great War.
@drfreshey4 жыл бұрын
I noticed something about Delvin recently during a playthrough. I did the Thieve's Guild storyline before even starting the Dark Brotherhood, and when everybody finds out about Mercer Frey's treason, Delvin says "It's like the Dark Brotherhood all over again!" I'd be really interested to know his history with the Brotherhood, since it seems to have been somewhat turbulent.
@MareWT Жыл бұрын
Delvin also knows location of sanctuaries and he knows contections that can repair them. He is really interesting character
@MasterMahan-qm8hu6 жыл бұрын
Theory on Amaund Motierre: Just a theory, however, I would like you to consider the evidence for yourself and come to your own conclusions. Just want to provoke thoughts and ideas. I want you to look closely at Amaund Motierre in Volunruud...... And then look closely at the Motierre you meet in Whiterun....... It's clearly not the same person. Some have said and will say that the Motierre in Whiterun is supposed to be an aged/stressed version, but that doesn't make much sense since the mission could and can be completed rather quickly and even if you waited months, that doesn't explain the different facial structure. Furthermore, if one professes that he has simply aged, then why hasn't Rexus, who looks exactly the same??? There's also several other thing's to pay attention to that made me strongly believe the Motierre in Whiterun is a body double, aside from the obviously different facial structure and features. 1) While seemingly a whiny, snobby and spoiled brat, it seems Amaund Motierre is highly intelligent and capable. He supposedly formulates and puts into action a multi-layered plan that opens up the Emperor as a target. He seems intelligent and knows how to cover his tracks and tie up loose ends, it would seem. 2) In Volunruud, Rexus is there with him in case things go sour. In Whiterun however, Rexus is in an entirely different room. For a faithful servant who supposedly never leaves Amaund' s side, it was most peculiar to notice......I'll come back to that later. 3) Amaund Motierre is a descendant/distant relative of Francois Motierre, a Dark Brotherhood contract from Oblivion. He knows who he is dealing with, as his family has dealt with the DB in the past, and so is very cautious as a result. 4) When you ask Babette about the contract, she says, " The man you need to speak with, his name is Motierre? That's a very old and powerful Breton family, firmly established in Cyrodiil. Most curious........". There is simply too much about this guy and the situation that doesn't add up. It's also most unusual for supposedly loyal Rexus, who is always by his side and had sworn to protect Motierre, to mysteriously not be by his side if/when you decide to "alter the deal". And then it hit me........ If it wasn't a body double, which is a smart move that we saw in an earlier mission involving the Emperor (this lends further credence to such a theory) then Rexus might be the real "mastermind" behind the scheme. Stay with me........ 1) When in Volunruud, Rexus says very little and in fact stays back, to far back to protect Motierre, and observes the whole exchange. I also found it odd that he'd wear Imperial Legion armor which has never been seen on any type of personal guard outside of the Penitus Oculatus. This is a sound tactic, as he could observe and gauge the assassin's reaction, while having a human meat shield in case thing's go South for whatever reason. 2) Rexus is the only constant in this mission; he's there in Volunruud "guarding" Motierre, but not near his side when in Whiterun when it's clearly a different Motierre than before. Also, the Rexus in Whiterun looks the same as the Rexus in Volunruud, as opposed to the two different Motierre's. 3) This is kind of dark, but if Rexus is the real brains behind this operation so to speak, then he might have killed the first Motierre in Volunruud (just another dead body right) to keep things under wraps, and used a similar personal attache to serve as the Motierre we see in Whiterun, serving as an attractive target. 4) In Whiterun, you can close the doors and kill Motierre in private. Where's the supposedly loyal and never far from his side Rexus? In a side room that few would even check as they barge into the Tavern and them speedily make their way out after the deed is done. I know that many people may not have even noticed that Rexus was in a room off to the side. If Rexus is the brains/the real Motierre, then he could have laid out a tempting target, essentially getting the assassin to do the work for him this time and no one would be the wiser. And he could simply slip out the back door undetected and without becoming a target himself. And aside from Rexus wearing Legion armor, there's something else, Rex is Latin for 'King'. Make of that what you will. I for one don't believe the developer's at Bethesda gave him that particular name by accident. After thoughts: Are the two Motierre's you meet different men altogether? If you look at the still shots of them side by side, you can see most certainly they are not the same person. The Motierre's are in fact a powerful and old Breton family in Cyrodiil. A sudden political rise after the untimely assassination of the Emperor wouldn't be to far fetched. The member of the Motierre family that you meet in Oblivion may point to something as well. It's interesting in that you give him a poison to trick people (DB) into thinking he has died........ Motierre may or may not be after the Throne for himself, there may very well be some kind of conglomerate group he is apart of working together to make a power-grab for the Ruby Throne. Some kind of old school 9-seat Cabal meeting in a smoky boardroom in a deep, remote location somewhere in Southern Cyrodiil. Cheers
@felixschmitt39776 жыл бұрын
Boaz TubalCain That is very interesting I love this idea of a puppetmaster who disguise himself as a loyal servent
@soyboydivision6 жыл бұрын
Tl;Dr
@mithrandirsilvertongue14066 жыл бұрын
Boaz TubalCain could you perhaps leave time stamps to the different Motierres?
@mithrandirsilvertongue14066 жыл бұрын
Boaz TubalCain I still can’t tell the difference between them, sorry... nice theory though
@juice23076 жыл бұрын
Let's turn this whole thing on its head. Maybe we're looking at it wrong. As you said, we've been assuming a certain aspect of the whole plot is a constant, when it's really not. The aspect we've been assuming is constant is, of course, Motierre. He's actually the variable. We see two different versions of him. Rexus though? Only one, and he acts the same no matter what time we see him. He's always distant, like someone being protected, rather than being the protector. The truth might be that Rexus is the real Motierre, and the two different "Motierre" we see next to him? They're the soldiers/protectors acting in his place. This explains why he doesn't do much "protecting", and why "Motierre" visibly changes the two times we see him.
@lucashampton62696 жыл бұрын
That Vici corpse launch tho! 😂
@nikolajurican87046 жыл бұрын
Lucas Hampton You know there is a gargoyle statue on balcony above ?
@dexfrancolini47346 жыл бұрын
nikola jurican what does that comment have to do with anything? He was talking about the corpse of Vici which was flung into the air when she was hit by the arrow in the video.
@Merrygate_6 жыл бұрын
Backflip for style
@DemonicaaD146 жыл бұрын
Lucas Hampton so beautiful
@prieterico6 жыл бұрын
That backflip tho
@derigity89286 жыл бұрын
Up next. Is Ralof ALDUIN??? Tune in next time for SKYYRIM detective
@meusana36816 жыл бұрын
No, but Delphine is really Esbern and Esbern is actually Deplhine. They agreed to trade names after Delphine was called a gay nord and Esbern couldn't find a Tinder date that wasn't a Hagraven.
@elgrantiburonasesino89405 жыл бұрын
@@meusana3681 this blew my mind how could have i been so blind
@meusana36815 жыл бұрын
@@elgrantiburonasesino8940 Man skyrim scandals run deep
@jaredcross8975 жыл бұрын
These are all far more plausible than the video I just watched
@cassidysawyer99824 жыл бұрын
You won't stop us this time, Hadvar
@AimlessSavant4 жыл бұрын
Did Delvin's voice actor ever manage to sneeze durring his recording session?
@TheGamingCathedral5 жыл бұрын
"... he didn't jump out of the window (which I would have done)."
@Mr_Peem5 жыл бұрын
The Gaming Cathedral but he is old and a assassin could easily catch up to him and kill him or swim to shore and wait for the emperor to wait in the water and drown or accept his fate and swim to shore to let you kill him
@gabrielm.9424 жыл бұрын
Thicc_Boi_Matt you swim to shore. He swims to the other shore lol
@yoavweiss87794 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielm.942 or back to the boat and set sail. regardless you can shoot him in the water but it's still the best chance he's got
@myles38563 жыл бұрын
Truetrue
@THE-BIG-JP-REILS6 жыл бұрын
19:16 so basically, Heimskr is the one guy keeping the human race alive?
@Janoha176 жыл бұрын
THE-BIG-JP- REILS Rikke is a Talos worshipper, and there is a worshipper in Markarth.
@invock5 жыл бұрын
Which explains why he must shout until his voice eventually breaks.
@harrowedone9745 жыл бұрын
No he just keeps the power of Talos’ Thuum alive by yelling it at bystanders.
@watermelonhead80545 жыл бұрын
I ALONE HAVE BEEN ANOINTED BY THE NINTH, TO SPREAD HIS HOLY WORD!
@Chu8rock4 жыл бұрын
Balgruuf and many others still worship Talos.
@Makarosc6 жыл бұрын
Anyone the least bit concerned that Motierre yelled "I wanted the Emperor dead" in the middle of a crowded bar
@tuckermoore83566 жыл бұрын
If you are correct about Rexus being the loyal friend of the Emperor then it could be possible that when Rexus found out about Motierre's unease he reported to the emperor. From there the Emperor sees the opportunity to sanctify himself with your proposed theory and has Rexus plant the seeds of thought in his mind. From there, our plot unfolds.
@ya_fbr6 жыл бұрын
i like that explanation for that part of the theory even more . and it also explains why rexus doesn't attack you or do anything , when you kill motierre , and plants him in a more valuable position in the story , since i don't think rexus could even potentially be the next Emperor . also , if Titus wanted everybody , who knew that he orchestrated the assassination , dead , wouldn't he ask you to kill rexus too ? he was supposedly motierre's most trusted and loyal companion , so he had to have known the details , at least simply because he followed motierre around all the time . and , if it the Emperor's request was more of a vengeance type of thing , it makes sense why he would plant it in hands of his assassin , who might or might not kill motierre . because , trusting a 50% chance of success doesn't make much sense to me , when such an important thing as the Emperor assassinating himself being revealed to the public is at stake .
@MyHellaKitty6 жыл бұрын
It was all going to happen, whether it was you, someone else in the DB or the assassins that were already in place. There was the assassin for the Emperor. Maybe Rexus was instructed to kill Motierre. But, would the bride and the cook still have been assassinated, had you not got involved?
@cosmiccookie77154 жыл бұрын
Astrid: Let’s take our relationship to the next level. Don’t do this to me astrid...
@love2fight2054 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah baby ;)
@Ostentatiousnessness5 жыл бұрын
I love how the Emperor is voiced by Sheogorath
@ethanheron81534 жыл бұрын
He voices the guards in Oblivion as well
@gabrielm.9424 жыл бұрын
He’s the same guy for Shegorath in oblivion and his voice as the Emperor is a reference for oblivious guards.
@marck97984 жыл бұрын
Wes johnson
@myles38563 жыл бұрын
@@ethanheron8153 true
@madisonsosa213 жыл бұрын
Did not know that despite killing him like 20+ times
@skaking045 жыл бұрын
"The ship won't stayed moored forever!" Oh, yes it will. Until I say it can go. I'm the Listener, dammit!
@orangeapples6 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a persuade option to say, "Actually my target was the impostor"
@magic5935 жыл бұрын
*YES*
@igi12253 жыл бұрын
Why woumd you meet the real emperor then
@charlesquick99773 жыл бұрын
@@igi1225 persuading guards that the real target was the body double still doesn't mean you've fulfilled the contract; it would still play out more or less the same way even if the Empire didn't destroy the sanctuary in retaliation
@igi12253 жыл бұрын
@@charlesquick9977 i understand but it would be kinda weird to go to some guy just to tell him he wasnt your target (even if you then killed him)
@cynicalia3 жыл бұрын
sus
@marcustulliuscicero54436 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your conclusion on Mortierre. The members of the Elder Council are NOT the most trusted advisors of the emperor. Well, in theory they should be, but in practice they are a bunch of squabbling nobles, vying for power against one another and the royal authority itself. Most likely, a faction of nobles wanted to see Titus II dead in order to see the new emperor forced to transfer power from the central authority to the nobility. A faction which the emperor then exploited to faciliate his own death. I've played more than enough CK2 to be sure of that.
@roflguy1143 жыл бұрын
Ever get the numidium in elder kings?
@samuelwithers22212 жыл бұрын
My bet is that Motierre and his faction of the Elder Council are Nibenese. Titus Mede I, a Colovian warlord, was strongly disliked by the Nibenese Elder Council members, due to long-standing enmity between the two Cryodiilic cultures. While the Elder Council was ultimately wrangled into supporting Titus I, the absolute devastation seen during Titus II's reign probably convinced many Nibenese councillors that it was time for a new Emperor from their ranks. Titus, however, must have anticipated this, and orchestrated the entire assassination to place another young, Colovian Emperor on the throne--Rexus--who could lead the Empire in the next war against the Dominion.
@Kingfizh Жыл бұрын
@@samuelwithers2221 Motierre was actually a Breton from a noble Breton family in Cyrodiil. Babette says it in the sanctuary and another Motierre has a contract for you in Oblivion. But otherwise I agree
@descalzitao67793 жыл бұрын
From this theory it's pretty obvious that the Emperor wants to frame the Thalmor for his murder, in order to turn the public opinion's hartred from him to the Thalmor, that's very obvious the first one everyone will blame after the emperor's death will be the Thalmor, regardless of if it was actually them or no. Considering that, that completely explains why he want Amaund Motierre dead : since Amaund is seemingly the only one to know that it's wasn't the Thalmor that assassinated the emperor, he's the only one susceptible of revealing the truth to the world (considering his apparent position, it's very likely that the Thalmor were going to interrogate him at some point). The Emperor asking to the Dragonborn to kill Motierre thus has nothing to do with personal revenge or punishing treason but can rather be explained as the Emperor covering himself and making sure to get rid of any blind spot in his plan by definitely silencing Motierre. This would also explain Motierre last line, since if the Emperor informed him that he also needed to die for his plan to be completely fullfiled, Motierre would probably never had accepted in the first place. This also explain why the Emperor used Motierre as an auxiliary, because if he rather directly conducted the black sacrement on himself (like Astrid does during the Dark Brotherhood quest line) then the entire Dark Brotherhood would have known that the Empire wanted to kill himself and as we know it could have easily have gotten to the outside world from there. In any way, this only proves Titus Mede II is a diplomatic and political genius that is not only capable but also willing to see the big picture and sacrifice himself for the greater good of the Empire and by extension mankind. Probably one of the best NPC in Skyrim if this theory holds true
@djmay12313 жыл бұрын
I like your theory about him wanting to pin the blame on the Thalmor, there’s one big problem with that. If the “truth” got out to the public that the Thalmor were behind the assassination, well that’s pretty much a declaration of war, no? As in, the whole Empire would see it as an act of war and immediately need to retaliate, yet in the game, everybody just acts like business as usual, not seeming concerned about another Great War happening.
@lucastellanos384 жыл бұрын
I think Rexus is just a reference to the fact that "Rex" is a very popular name for dog, especially guard dog
@prince_nocturne6 жыл бұрын
Huh. I always just got the feeling that the Emperor was just relieved that the assassin finally came. He was a man at the end of his rope, so to speak. An ill prepared man thrust into a situation with no positive outcome. He was hated by his own people, and the Thalmor are still strong and powerful. An assassin was only inevitable. And now, he can stop watching over his shoulder and let it happen. But this theory... does kind of fit, actually. Going to have to look out for lore books when 6 comes out to see if they mention Rexus the 1st replacing him... I have a follow up, though... A question I've always wondered. Why does Motierre give you that amulet? It's a unique thing that can be tied DIRECTLY to him, as each is crafted for each member of the Elder Council. And he just... gives it to a random assassin he just met that CLAIMS to be dark brotherhood with little proof at the time. Later, that same assassin is ambushed by the imperial legion, and it is always possible that the assassin might fail to kill the Emperor and be either captured or killed. If that assassin hasn't sold the amulet, the legion is going to find it on them. If they are so unique, it would immediately tie him to the attempt. That's not just political suicide, that's just suicide! So why, oh why, does he give you his amulet? Unless... he wasn't actually who he said he was. It doesn't debunk this theory. If anything, it only pushes it further. The Emperor had someone claiming to be of the Elder Council do all this, to throw suspicion somewhere else. If this would-be assassin is caught, the man who hired him would be killed and the Emperor could claim that he is still such a threat to the Thalmor they're trying to bribe even the council. He may then purge the council. To what end? I don't know. But if he is killed, and it still leads back to this council member... well, similar thing. He may have been setting up a corrupt council member to fall with him, or possibly take out a rival with himself. Ensure the one member he doesn't want to sit on the throne never will. Why kill the messenger then? No loose ends. And Rexus... is the only one that lives. My theory is that Rexus... is a Blade.
@aurenkleige4 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure. I think perhaps Motierre had the favor of the Emperor's Guard. If they killed the Dark Brotherhood Assassin with the Amulet on him, they would just get rid of the evidence or return it to Motierre. And if the Assassin tried to get the truth out, which is unlikely due to his chosen profession, the Emperor's Guard would just cover it up, like a secret police (which is precisely what they are).
@thesun52753 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a random assassin It was a member of the dark brotherhood, how does he know? The fact he performed the Black Sacrament and an assassin came. The likelyhood of it being a fake is extraordinarily low. The people willing to sell and buy the elder council amulet really wouldn't ask questions as to who got it from where and how, all they know is they have an almost priceless amulet.
@daegzy30316 жыл бұрын
Camel, have you ever been contacted by any of the devs about any of this? Any Brotherhood assassins sent after you because you've discovered too much?
@Lavourrin5 жыл бұрын
Bethesda would be "Nah, all that is just a bug"
@beelzibubbles6 жыл бұрын
Guy trying to lie low: I STILL WANT THE EMPEROR DEAD, CAN YOU DO THAT?!
@andryuu_20003 жыл бұрын
The emperor replies: "Yeah, me too! For the sake of Tamriel!"
@anondutchie71273 жыл бұрын
Mortierres decendants are linked to the Dark brotherhood since Oblivion, where you had to stage a death for a client also part of the Motierre family. Being an Elder counsil member with Dark Brotherhood ties made him the perfect man to setup the Assassination on Titus Mede II. I think it's possible Motierres family is trying to become the 4th Bloodline to gain control over the Empire, if that would happen it would be an Empire with close ties to the Dark Brotherhood, which reminds me of the Morag Tong or that other group who worked for the ruling body of Morrowind. It would become a unstoppable empire with assassins at their disposal.
@KendoSoldier3 жыл бұрын
It actually goes back further than that, Mirabelle Motierre was a Dark Brotherhood assassin from the 2nd Era
@SuperNova-vu3el5 жыл бұрын
Camelwork : "Why would he want to die?" Millenials : *visible confusions*
@spectralassassin60304 жыл бұрын
I'm going to make a completely original joke. You ready? Dammit I forgot it!
@stephan27964 жыл бұрын
Camelworks is a millenial I think.
@stoneheart82203 жыл бұрын
Why anyone doesn't kill Astrid. I don't know. She is just a users. You're a dragonborn not assassin to be used by some already dead brotherhood wanting to make a comeback. That already tried killing you before you meet Astrid.
@paritosh46433 жыл бұрын
@@stoneheart8220 >You're a dragonborn not assassin to be used by some already dead brotherhood What an understatement! Also, you can get Shadowmere (disputedly the best horse in the game) And the quests are fun. Also, being a good dragonborn or letting someone use you/ letting a daedric prince make you their pawn is really just the player's choice.
@stoneheart82203 жыл бұрын
@@paritosh4643 😂😂😂 yeah k bro
@moonscript46756 жыл бұрын
I like how the emperor is such a humble man in the face of death. It portrays him as such a humble character, he faced it with no fear.
@omnimon4016 жыл бұрын
Latin Lesson! The word Rex translates as king, as mentioned in the video. But the suffix -us doesn't have any meaning on it's own (as far as I remember), instead it's used to mark that a "masculine" word is being used as a singular subject of whatever sentence it's in. Rexus's name is is merely coincidental, as Rex has it's own ways of forming separate from the "typical" masculine words that end with -us. But, good video all around, nice and entertaining, as I just may decide to play a character who doesn't destroy the Dark Brotherhood
@chengzhou87116 жыл бұрын
But Rex is of the third declension and not second or fourth
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl62065 жыл бұрын
It's no mere coincidence, you have to remember, bethesda plan these games years upon years in advance, since redguard they had oblivion planned, possibly even Skyrim
@misterkid5 жыл бұрын
@NotJo no
@Ajsirb246 жыл бұрын
After performing a black flip, the husband casually stands up 🤣
@Nr47472 жыл бұрын
When I played through the Dark Brotherhood questline for the first time long ago, it seemed incredibly obvious that the Emperor ordered his own death by proxy - so much so that I expected some kind of twist that never came.
@ako67604 жыл бұрын
Emperor Titus Mede II: Skyrims real absolute legend. The guy straight up says he knows hes gonna die then turns his back to you and stares out the window awaiting his death
@shirel.a84214 жыл бұрын
I always felt bad cause I always had a kill anination, stab the back, slice the throat, ect and I just want to give him a peaceful death that suits him
@rustyk46454 жыл бұрын
I felt bad that I couldn't cut his ears off and make him run naked through Solitude shouting "Ulfric is the True High King, I am the Lowest Wretch, lickspittle of the Elves." Then kick him into a ditch, throw a bag of gold at his head, then watch the beggars of the city bum fight him to death. That would have been a fitting end.
@rustyk46454 жыл бұрын
@Radium Rifle still gets me Stoked. I don't even play the game any more, but I won't hear a good word said about that no good, craven Fool.
@joserijalkasyasyaf97233 жыл бұрын
@@rustyk4645 ulfric will sell skyrim, watch
@rustyk46453 жыл бұрын
@@joserijalkasyasyaf9723 maybe we will find out, if there's a Netflix series set around it....
@TheAmethysta76 жыл бұрын
If he really did plot his own assassination to help the Empire, he truly was one of the best Emperors of all time. Not only dying for his people, but even dying in the most helpful way. If this theory is true, that man has my deepest respect. Although it seems more than a bit questionable to have the own cousin, the best chef in all of Tamriel and the son of Commander Maro assassinated during the process, not to mention the cook of Markath, his decoy and, at least in my case, Commander Maro as well. Asking the DB to kill Motierre makes perfectly sense, but the others seem like rather unnecessary bloodshed. Do you maybe have an explanation for that, Camel?
@jay159516 жыл бұрын
TheAmethysta7 I do he's a cold blooded bastard, in the best of ways>:) and included them all to make it look convincing. He was the champion if boethia at one point, wielder of goldbrand so I wouldn't put it past him
@DakalaShade6 жыл бұрын
I know I'm a month or so late on this, but... I can see a few reasons for some of those additional kills. Vittoria Vici - One, her death makes things more convincing that an assassination plot was in play, and gives Titus Mede a reason to show up (his cousin's funeral). Two, he's eliminating family ties, and just about guarantees whoever his successor will be, they have no ties to the Thalmor or the Stormcloaks. Basically, a clean slate, not carrying any of the Mede Dynasty forward. The Gourmet - He's already written a book and is famous, but no one knows who he/she is. Why not have them killed so you can have a body-double die by poison in an assassination attempt? Especially if one of your 'dreams' was to have a dinner made by the Gourmet, adding to the credibility of dodging death one more time. Commander Maro's Son - What better way to enrage your Commander and get him to wipe out the Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary? Clearly all the books the Emperor has on the Dark Brotherhood has shown the Emperor that the DB tends to make violent come-backs when you think you've killed them all. Markarth's Cook - The only person who's ever known the Gourmet. If you're trying to make an assassination plot go smoothly, the last thing you want is to be dead and gone and have someone running around screaming that there's no way the Gourmet would do that. It might lead into an investigation, and loose ends left around tend to get interrogated. And if any information wasn't carefully swept under the bear pelts, your careful plan to be 'assassinated' is blown wide open, and the Empire appears weak. He was a loose end who needed to be killed. (Admittedly, this one's a little shaky.) Emperor's Decoy - Commander Maro probably insisted on this after the events leading up to the assassination. One, Vici's murder, and two, a side-plot by Maro trying to kill the assassin (Remember, he did have a deal with Astrid that he made, but after killing his son, he's destroyed the Sanctuary. Exactly as planned, perhaps?) Three, it's more credible as the "Assassins are after me" situation if you lose a decoy through a poisoning. Commander Maro - Loose ends, after all. Could look at it as a mercy-killing. You've killed his son, made his family name a joke, killed the Emperor right under his nose, and he's the only one who knows the Dark Brotherhood was nearly wiped off the map. By killing him, the Dark Brotherhood ends up being unknown in size, and the People get to see him as the weak-link in the chain when all the dust settles. As he has no further family (that we know of, at least) it doesn't trash a family name that matters, and makes the Assassination Plot more credible in the end. Could also be seen as a brutal revenge-plot by the Dark Brotherhood for what he did to their Sanctuary, so it goes either way. Just the best I can come up with.
@TheAmethysta76 жыл бұрын
Well, if Titus Mede II has a wicked and violent mind in secret, then this could make sense. Otherwise, I am not quite convinced. Vittoria Vici, yes, seems legit. The decoy as well, and if the Emperor didn't like (or rather hated) Commander Maro, this could fit as well. But for the Gourmet and the cook of Markath, this seems a little too far-fetched to me. The poisoning could easily have been replaced by any other method of killing. Taking two lives to add like 1% credibility to your plan does seem a little exorbitand and cruel. Also, do you think the Emperor knew Astrid would make a plot with Maro? There is no way he could have known about the Night Mother's arrival in the Falkreath Sactuary and Astrid's problems with the newest recruit. He still could have hired a decoy, being a careful man. But I am very sure the burning of the Dark Brotherhood Sactuary was not a part of his plan.
@DakalaShade6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I don't deny that the Gourmet and Markarth's Cook were on shaky ground. With the information we're given, it's the best I could come up with. As for whether the Emperor knew Astrid would make a plot with Maro... No, I don't think the Emperor knew. What I think happened is that Maro insisted on having this 'dinner party' because he had that plan in motion to catch and kill an assassin. I'd put the blame for the death of the Gourmet and Markarth's Cook on Commander Maro's head, honestly. A bold attempt to kill an assassin, except it backfires when the assassin gets away, and now has the sanctuary burned. Now, I could completely see the Emperor knowing that Commander Maro would hunt down and destroy the Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary if his son got killed. So in an attempt to back the Brotherhood into a corner, where they have, on many occasions, come back with blades flashing, he needed to give Commander Maro a good reason to bring their top fighters into the Sanctuary. Revenge works as a good reason. Plus, one has to remember that Titus Mede II is a Warlord and not just an Emperor. He is a strategist, so it's possible he had some unknowable reason to want the Gourmet and the Cook dead, along with Maro's family. After all, we're only given so much information to work with ourselves.
@Fenris26 жыл бұрын
All his family members would be next in line as for the son of the leader of his defense the death would keep him in a frenzy to kill the ones responsible
@jailbotmark13796 жыл бұрын
Trust nobody not even yourself
@adampeters8926 жыл бұрын
Nice
@urmumlol19916 жыл бұрын
Jailbot Mark 1 👏...👏...👏
@H1storybr3akdown6 жыл бұрын
Jailbot Mark 1 *insert Spider-Man meme pointing at himself*
@erinmayo51705 жыл бұрын
Stalin
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl62065 жыл бұрын
XDDD That actually makes sense because time travel & alternative realities
@christopherzarcone13636 жыл бұрын
I think he knew about the plot but was not actively planning it. Maybe the advisor planned this against him and he laid down and accepted it because he knew that he couldn't fight you and wouldn't gain anything from surviving. He wanted the advisor dead so word of him keeling over never gets out
@Chraan6 жыл бұрын
He is an Emperor who can decide his own security. One who reads about assassins surely would aquire protection if he really expected them. He also *is* a veteran warrior himself. Him waiting for you alone really was the strangest scene in the entire game. Of course he doesn't have a chance no matter how many soldiers he has because you are the Dragonborn and the hero in a computer game so everybody should just give up as soon as they see you, but realistically speaking and in his perception you are just a normal Dark Brotherhood assassin, which means you are technically less skilled than a seasoned warrior in open combat (and that room only offered open combat).
@fuzzydunlop79285 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot more sense than him having planned it - without knowing his successor it's impossible to postulate the feasibility of such a plan.
@Fabelaz5 жыл бұрын
That's more believable. He reasoned that the dark brotherhood survived, or thar assassins will eventually deliver the blow, maybe had a little bit of depression and self-doubt as a worthy leader, so just went with it?
@thebonezone2526 жыл бұрын
"I think there's something wrong." Me: Where's the soup!?
@GeneralGorillaSonicOC4 жыл бұрын
It's actually a genius move by Emperor Titus Mede II. Also you can hear Captain Aldis talking to the Solitude guards about their shitty archery skills while Commander Maro reads The Writ Of Passage.
@ripple85956 жыл бұрын
Your Elder Scrolls Detective videos never dissapoint, great work again Camel!
@realzachfluke16 жыл бұрын
Ripple you’re welcome.
@avery90766 жыл бұрын
The Old Ones one kinda missed the mark imo.
@adammitchell18626 жыл бұрын
Remember Francois Motierre in Oblivion, you had to kill him for the DB. Is this guy his descendant?
@peryite99796 жыл бұрын
Adam Mitchell yes
@jennyford18356 жыл бұрын
Adam Mitchell There's also a woman in the dark brotherhood in ESO with the same second name.
@misterkid5 жыл бұрын
@@jennyford1835 that's also the same lineage
@Dunkle0steus6 жыл бұрын
When you looked up "-us" and saw that it was the masculine ending of a name, you should know that this DOESN'T mean masculine the way we use it in English. It doesn't mean manly or strong. It just means male. Like, in modern Italian, Mario is the masculine form of the name whose feminine form is Maria. This feature is common in Romance languages. It's just how you conjugate names for men. Think of Roman male names like Julius, Augustus, or Octavius (and compare the female names Julia, Augusta, and Octavia)
@aurenkleige4 жыл бұрын
Still doesn't disprove the "Rex" portion of the name, which was the centerpoint of the argument anyway.
@owenjames85754 жыл бұрын
that is how we use masculine in english though?
@owenjames85754 жыл бұрын
@@Dunkle0steus no, I understand your point. Also unless I'm mistaken, as I have very poor memory, didn't he say the suffix us meant new? I swear I remember him saying his name was new king
@owenjames85754 жыл бұрын
@@Dunkle0steus I know how words work. I just dont remember him saying it was masculine suffix
@VioletSunflowers84 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, I work in the classics and study Greek and Latin. Rexus is first of all, declined incorrectly for it to mean anything. "new king" would be rex novus. Rexus is most likely just a play off of Rex, plus making the Imperials mimic Roman names has been common throughout the games. The -us is a masculine ending but for the second and fourth declensions, but rex is a third declension noun, and -us is not used in the third declension.
@editorrbr21073 жыл бұрын
It’s not necessarily the name Rexus that makes it likely - it’s the fact that Rexus is wearing penitent oculatus armor. He’s one of Titus Mede’s sworn bodyguards. It would stand to reason that Rexus had orders from the emperor to not interfere with the death of Moltierre, or to ensure that Moltierre died, even if the Brotherhood didn’t do “him this kindness.” Let the assassin do his work and return to Moltierre, makes sure the DB kills Moltierre, and if not, then Rexus is to do it. Moltierre speaks longingly of Rexus’ allegiance and loyalty. And indeed that is the case - but to the Emperor.
7:00 can't stop laughing after Victoria got that arrow in the face and performs matrix like side flip, amazing stuff !
@jonathanfulmer84226 жыл бұрын
Titus Mede II is really an underestimated emperor.
@MasterMahan-qm8hu6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful theory Camel, I wrote a theory on this very subject some time ago on an Elder Scrolls discussion site. I will present it here. I also have a theory on Amaund Motierre that I will post here as well. Did Titus Mede II order his own assassination? IDK, maybe. Was he alright with it? It would seem so. I am going to approach this from varies angles and attempt to make an argument for them. Let's see where it goes! Titus Mede II is/was a Colovian Warlord/Warrior-King whose aware that he's become a political liability to the Empire. Even if he made the right decision in appeasing the Thalmor/AD, while the Empire rebuilds their territory, everyone believes he surrendered Tiber Septim' s territory to Elves and blasphemied against the God of humanity (Talos). He can't rally the troops or other province's around the Empire anymore since he has gone it seems from being a badass Warrior-King who leads from the front to being another word for craven. His every decision is suspect and the Nords think he's a weakling, along with many Redguards feeling the same way. So what's the best solution if not to kill himself? Or have himself assassinated? It fits with the Roman ethic of the Cyrodiil Empire and we see that Titus Mede is completely alright with the DB killing him. He's resigned to the inevitable and seems positively happy about the development. Mede ordering the execution of the 'person behind it' may actually just be him tying up 'loose ends' so know one finds out about this Grand Scheme. Mede II being assassinated by the DB allows him to end his reign in a manner that he can prepare for with a chosen heir ready to take up the cause/Throne. Furthermore, it allows the majority of the Empire's wrath against him to die with him. Titus Mede II the appeaser being killed allows a Mede heir (or a chosen General) to be the "Winston Churchill" they need against the Thalmor. A uniter rather than a divider. A side note: Do you think it is a coincidence that the book "The Brothers of Darkness" is on his desk? Bethesda is trying to tell us something with that. Be sure. A different rationale is this; Titus knows he is a liability to the Empire, and he knows his credibility has been shattered to pieces by signing the WGC. Maybe he didn't organize or order it, otherwise he wouldn't want you to kill his contract holder, loose ends or not. And Amaund Motierre says there is or needs to be a 'change in policy'. Maybe Mede stayed Emperor and never stepped aside because he knew the Empire needed some time to recover. If he stepped aside or died right after signing the WGC, the Empire might have just fallen to pieces, right back to succession crisis. Waiting a while for the Empire to somewhat put itself together meant that if someone has the political juice or acumen to kill him, they just might have the clout to replace him. And I think he would be ok with that, knowing the Empire is in good hands. Mede always seemed to be planning ahead, and is clearly far more intelligent than most gave or give him credit for. His advisors recommended rejecting the original Thalmor ultimatum, but he signed it anyway. His Generals recommended against abandoning the Imperial City, but he did it anyway. He then led what some would call a desperate attack on the AD to retake the Imperial City, which saw almost the entirety of their army in Cyrodiil slaughtered. Even when it comes to his death by the DB, he came to Skyrim against the advise of the Penitus Oculatus. He stands there and let's you kill him, despite the fact that it seems to make little sense to anyone around him that he's even there in the first place. I'm not sure what his end game is/was, but Mede seemed to be playing a much bigger game than anyone else could see. Considering the access the Emperor's have to the Elder Scrolls, and the fact that the only other Emperor we have any experience with (In Oblivion) took a vested interest in prophesy through the Scrolls, it's possible Mede may have been up to something only he knew. There are some paradigms to be drawn towards Mede's actions and the socio-political nature of Cyrodiil. He waged war like a Colovian and then tried to be diplomatic like a Nibean. In the latter case, we can't really say as of yet whether he succeeded or failed, as we're not really sure about the political climate after Skyrim and the attitudes towards Mede in Cyrodiil at present. Still, it's safe to say that he was losing political support and had he just stepped down, that lack of support would almost certainly had carried over to his successor. The sins of the father and all that. By being assassinated, he takes his sins with him, ensuring whatever successor replaces him starts with a blank slate. And an army on the Dominion's border............ Cheers
@flopexclusive5046 жыл бұрын
Isn't the Dark Brotherhood sanctuary the last one in Tamriel? So it's even more suspicious for the emperor to come to Skyrim.
@danielbolerjack20236 жыл бұрын
Storm Trooper lives matter it wasnt the last one it may have been the only one still functioning in Skyrim, but when that hole gets destroyed you move to the one by dawnstar or solitude
@fishingtheworld79386 жыл бұрын
Daniel Bolerjack by Dawnstar. There's no sanctuary near Solitude
@danielbolerjack20236 жыл бұрын
Fishing The World then where ever the second backup sanctuary is when you finish the main questline of the dark bro
@Chraan6 жыл бұрын
It would be weird if the Emperor, or anyone else for that matter, would actually know that. They are a secretive society, remember?
@Raptorman02056 жыл бұрын
All of the sanctuaries in Cyrodil had been eradicated by that point, not necessarily all of tamriel. Probably none in Morrowind, as that's the Morag Tong's territory. I'd venture to guess though that there's at least a couple in Black Marsh, and probably some in either Elsweyr, Hammerfell, or both.
@Andrew-fe7zi4 жыл бұрын
An Emperor planning his own assassination for the good of the realm... sounds familiar.... "The only ones who should kill are the ones who are prepared to be killed."
@TheguyfromJurassicpark35 жыл бұрын
When I killed him I had to look out the window to see what he was looking at because I was confused
@drago30366 жыл бұрын
7:04 P H Y S I C S
@50shadesof_jamesgray5 жыл бұрын
@Terror it JUST works
@kukifitte73574 жыл бұрын
It-just-works
@elvenbredx60125 жыл бұрын
Turn in next time to True detective when we try to uncover if Maiq is Lorkan !
@bjarne35215 жыл бұрын
Good Theory
@soulofresolve95144 жыл бұрын
Some evidence: lorkhan is represented by the fox, for how he tricked and deceived the aylieds, but what is another “sneaky,” “deceiving” animal? The cat. Maiq has a title, as well. Maiq, the Liar.
@darklord48786 жыл бұрын
Does the emperor sound like the guards from oblivion?
@erickhenriques62196 жыл бұрын
STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!
@TheGamingCathedral5 жыл бұрын
Same voice actor. Just like Lucien Lachance and Sheogorath. That dude's got talent, and is giving me so much nostalgia with his voice alone.
@SleepingLion5255 жыл бұрын
Wes Johnson
@keeganowens89496 жыл бұрын
The Imperial Emperors have a history of prophecy. That was always my theory.
@kyleanderson4494 жыл бұрын
That stopped after Oblivion. When the septons were no more.
@andryuu_20003 жыл бұрын
Nah, he literally ordered his death so that his son would kick both Ulfric and Almeri ass.
@maddywolf76904 жыл бұрын
There’s actually two Motierre’s that have ties to the Dark Brotherhood. In Oblivion, we help Francois Motierre by faking his assassination with a poisoned dagger, then resurrecting him and helping him flee the city of Chorrol. Then we have Amaund Motierre, who wants to assassinate the emperor. I wonder, are these two related? Is Amaund a distant relative of Francois? We do see reoccurring names between Skyrim and Oblivion and other games quite a few times. I know this isn’t really the topic of the video, but I thought it was interesting to note!
@skjaldulfr6 жыл бұрын
"But we had a deal" No shit he was talking to us.
@MSgtRazor4 жыл бұрын
There wasn't a deal with the player leaving him alive after the assassination was done - only for the reward for doing it, so no, not really
@simonandre47736 жыл бұрын
As for Mortiere saying "How could you" and who he actually refers to, you could try to play the game with a language where the word "you" differs depending on if one speaks to a male or female, using a female character. It's a long shot but it may work!
@Phiro006 жыл бұрын
Simon André any uptade on this?
@justincox90966 жыл бұрын
We need to know!!!
@codeninja18325 жыл бұрын
He doesn't say, "How could you", he says, "but... we had a deal". Also, I don't think the gender of the word has anything to do with the gender the sentence references. For instance, the Old English word for Woman (wīf) is not a feminine word, it is a neuter word.
@supergirlihateu6 жыл бұрын
I know this doesn’t have anything to do with lore but the last Montierre we interact with in The Elder Scrolls hired the Dark Brotherhood to “Assassinate” himself
@supergirlihateu6 жыл бұрын
I know, that's why I put the word assassinate in quotes
@rkeough84 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I completely missed the other assassin on the boat! I saw the sailor and the two bodies but I didn't put the obvious pieces together! Great video!
@Ishamv35 жыл бұрын
7:00 - This is art, my friend.
@funnydepressive324 жыл бұрын
Before I watched this video: "No way in hell this is true, you on Skooma?" After I watched this video: "Titus Mede II, you crafty son of a...."
@BladeStrike5 жыл бұрын
This is a great theory. Its either this or The Emperor knew someone close to him wanted him dead and started researching The Dark Brotherhood looking for possible ways to counter it. When he learned that he could do nothing he gave up. I prefer your version though especially considering he could have just fortified his defenses if he really wanted, instead of staying out in the open with minimal guards. DB assassins aren't really supernatural after all. They can be stopped.
@jaymckeown7601 Жыл бұрын
What I like about how these videos are put together is everytime you make a point and I think of a reason that doesnt make sense, you then address it right afterward. Well put together.
@DecodeZx5 жыл бұрын
I've never actually played this game and I dont quite know how I ended up watching your videos but I love them. says alot about you to be fair. thanks for the videos fella.
@phantomthunder2036 жыл бұрын
Can you throughly investigate the Silver Hand?
@Lichdemonz5 жыл бұрын
They're renamed bandits with no given backstory. The end. :P
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl62065 жыл бұрын
@@Lichdemonz Not true, that's incorrect
@banessuperbrutalmetalfunti25615 жыл бұрын
I've seen a theory that suggested they were ex-Companions that went against the offer of lycanthropy. How else would they know that the Companions were werewolves?
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl62065 жыл бұрын
@@banessuperbrutalmetalfunti2561 Exqctly man exactly
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl62065 жыл бұрын
@@wintersinferno9779 Well no actually he's still wrong due to the simple fact that bandits have backstories, well at least some of them, heck, even some of them have names! for christ sake, as well as special weapons, some even legendary or enchanted
@prince-electorsnoo25406 жыл бұрын
Story of a truly depressed man...
@GenericUsername-qp1ww6 жыл бұрын
and useless
@moongirl7866 жыл бұрын
But... he was quite at peace and self-assured at the end. That is not the mark of a depressed person, trust me. A depressed person would be panicking and disorganized, and lack self-confidence. He seemed to know exactly what he wanted, and trusts the player implicitly to do what, in his view, needs to be done. His body language alone clearly shows this; he is not sitting and moping when the player walks in, he stands and addresses the player as an equal, before calmly turning his back to them, showing immeasurable confidence in his course of action, and again, trust in the player
@peachyjam94406 жыл бұрын
Why are you greeting us with ,,Welcome ladies and gentleman'' and not ,,Welcome moon and star''?
@DarkDisc15 жыл бұрын
Nerevar moon & star
@garrettrae65012 жыл бұрын
You are a genius. I am completely speechless on how amazingly in-depth this video is and your observation skills to see these obvious Easter eggs that are coincidence. My only regret is all I can do for this video is like it.
@sixstringblues065 жыл бұрын
You’re videos made me start a new save file to really check things out deeper now, I always had a lot of hunches.
@YeloFelo6 жыл бұрын
18:37 "the imperial empire"
@endikaaspeurrutia10134 жыл бұрын
ah yes, and The empeor of the imperial empire.
@Mana-xd2tp4 жыл бұрын
Federal Federation
@kajpiotrowicz57794 жыл бұрын
Authoritarian Authority
@RoachDoggJR42004 жыл бұрын
The department of redundancy department.
@vanilliqs93034 жыл бұрын
dictatorial dictator
@hiimz4 жыл бұрын
And Elder Scrolls 6 is most likely going to take place in Hammerfell.. the Redguards were the only other people to oppose in a rebellion besides the Nords.. just something to think about.
@lettucethemosa57e5 жыл бұрын
There are many great mysteries in the Elder Scrolls lore, the greatest of which is: Why don't the Jarls buy some long sticks with pointy bits, typically made of metal
@Tree_-wp5zn4 жыл бұрын
I just watched that How ironic
@Tree_-wp5zn4 жыл бұрын
@Winterhold Guard foolhardy skyrim parody
@userequaltoNull4 жыл бұрын
I got into an arguement with a friend about this.
@ZekeWaters_5 жыл бұрын
"Emperor got hurt in his confusion!"
@hylianglitchmobber75704 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great and your detective work is deeper than the quests your analyzing. Quite enjoyable!
@OneOctaveLower6 жыл бұрын
Aha! I actually thought about this when doing this quest for the first time. Glad to see it get discussed.
@jasoncrowell88636 жыл бұрын
I think he was ending the Mede dynasty so a new dynasty could take over the Empire, and I think he already knew who would be the only figure that could unite both Stormcloak and Imperial behind them. One whose abilities proved they had been blessed by Akatosh. The Dragonborn.
@IamaDinosaur6 жыл бұрын
I knew I wasn't the only one crazy! Remember back in morrowind where Talos was there in wolf form telling us that the old empire will die out but there would be a new empire coming soon while in wolf or human form.
@IamaDinosaur6 жыл бұрын
Jason Crowell or he is a boethia worshipper and does not want to meet boethia in the afterlife?
@wolfbatson76685 жыл бұрын
sembarangjaknama hero of kvatch is sheogorath there is a perfect explanation as to why he’s anonymous
@thebk2475 жыл бұрын
The last Dragonborn isnt just blessed by akatosh, he is also a Shezzar just like all prior true dragonborns.
@thebk2475 жыл бұрын
sembarangjaknama Shezzars cannot be servants to daedra lords.
@blagageorge38246 жыл бұрын
Certainly, if he did not order his own assassination, he at least saw an opportunity in it.
@sharoncropp6101 Жыл бұрын
Again, Camel, thank you for pointing us in the right direction in all our thoughts. Wonderful bit of enlightening us as players. Great story telling, please, keep these wonderful and enlightening videos coming.
@donnagriffith27166 жыл бұрын
The whole thing felt weird to me, but I sure didn't think of this. And I noticed the difference between the two men that contracted, and I actually hesitated for a while before approaching him in Whiterun. I was sure it was a trap. Noticed the lack of bodyguard, too, but didn't notice him in the other room either. Your theory works beautifully, and I thank you for that, because it was really bugging me. Gods, this game is DEEP.
@lortshmagool6 жыл бұрын
damn got me up at 4:30 in the morning for this. it's worth it tho
@DamienStarry0w06 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the emperor that died also knew he was going to die in oblivion
@dirkbaldorad36346 жыл бұрын
He must have planned it!
@juice23076 жыл бұрын
To be fair, that Emperor came from a very special bloodline.
@DamienStarry0w06 жыл бұрын
Juice wait so is titus not of the special blood line its been a while since i played skyrim bc my ps3 broke
@juice23076 жыл бұрын
abstractMaverick The information you're looking for is available in past TES games, though I suppose Skyrim might've had an in-game book talking about it too. The Septim lineage died out with Martin Septim during the Oblivion Crisis. Titus Mede II isn't a Septim, thus not from the same magical bloodline.
@Whydoineedahandlepissoff6 жыл бұрын
Desuo they were dragonborns that what made them special, so wouldn't it make sense for skyrims DB to also possess similar powers?
@sirgamer445 жыл бұрын
That moment you realize you the Dragonborn a title held by many emperors just assassinated an emperor
@kyleanderson4494 жыл бұрын
The moment you realize in order to be dragon born you have to be descended from the septons. You therefore can receive visions of the future and are entitled to be emperor. This also explains why we were crossing the border. We knew alduin was coming.
@ostensiblegoosethief13054 жыл бұрын
My first playthrough I missed all that dialogue, I went through the door with an arrow drawn and after the loading screen immediately shot the Emperor between the eyes... Didn't even know there was a loading screen
@pegi42036 жыл бұрын
the serenity the emperor displays is truly admirable. He had the certainty that his death would bring strength and unity back to the empire.