Camera Comparison: Sony a7R III vs Sony a7 III vs Nikon D850

[@TheSlantedLens]

Hey everyone, we realize that there was some misinformation about the D850 on this video. It does NOT have an optical low pass filter. Thanks to everyone who pointed it out. We apologize for this and try to bring you the best camera comparison/reviews we can. We will learn from this and make adjustments to move forward. Thanks for your continued support of the channel.

[@stevecraig9384]

The Slanted Lens you are welcome hope to see you again, at WPPI 2019

[@TheSlantedLens]

yes let's try to meet up

[@alicomalicom1796]

Underexposed files made by nikon cannot be" pulled " by third-party editors. Only in the family, for example Capture NX-D, Capture NX. In any other third-party developers RAW files from Nikon are pulled from overexposed or underexposed - not correct! The dynamic range becomes narrow and fragile. It's a fact!

[@1971musthafa]

I like nikon but sony a73 💪

[@lvminh]

Seems that Sony doesn't have 50mm f1.4 GM also, it's a Zeiss lens.

[@DennisMoncla]

Apologies for the long post but you asked so... I was a Canon shooter. I mainly shot birds and wildlife and shot the 7Dmkii. I wanted to go full frame but couldn't justify the expense and giving up my focus system and 10 fps. When Nikon announced the D850 I actually thought of jumping ship but held on to see what Canon would do in response such as the long awaited 7Dmkiii. Enter Sony. I started watching all sorts of videos on the R3 and was thinking wow this could be really good. In February my birthday was approaching and I was about to order in an R3 when that same day Sony announced the 73. I pre ordered it the next day! It fit everything I wanted. Full frame, awesome focus system and 10 fps and it did it all better than any Canon could. Now after shooting with it for almost 2 months I sold my Canon and have almost finished selling off my Canon glass. If Canon introduced a mirrorless (or even a DSLR) that matched the Sony point for point right now I would not go back. I feel that Sony is innovating and that Canon crippled their cameras and overcharged just because they could. I personally feel the 73 beats the R3 in all but resolution (I don't use video so I have no comment on it) I would LOVE that resolution for bird photography but the focus system on my camera is better right now. I plan on looking at the R4 when it arrives as I'm guessing it will do what the 73 is doing and beat it along with more megapixels. I just got into portrait work and as I'm sure you can guess it blows away what I was able to do before (The Canon wasn't bad and I got good results but...) The eye auto focus coupled with the 85 1.8 lens is a portrait taker's dream. I only have to worry about composing the image and press the eye focus button. No more click, click click as I maneuver the joystick to get a focal point on my subject!

[@TheSlantedLens]

hi dennis, thanks for taking the time to write this. your insights are great. really nice points about canon.

[@Eddie87Grant]

Dennis Moncla I'm still rocking the 5D Mark III and 1DX IMHO I didn't see enough improvement for me to invest in the 5D Mark IV. I'm soooooooooo tired of Canon with their game of incremental improvements and charging a boat load of money in their new gear. I will purchasing the III and the R4 when it comes out. I don't think Canon will be able to compete with Sony in the mirrorless field. Canon shooters has been asking for years for features that Sony put in the A7III. Canon has been asleep at the wheel and Sony is innovating period!!! Kudos to Nikon in bringing the 850 online.

[@derekalv911]

FYI Nikon does NOT have a low pass filter. A7 III does.

[@kennethcmerrill]

Derek Alvarado you’re right we misspoke about the Nikon. However the A7III does NOT.

[@dr.sommer5069]

Kenneth Merrill The A7III does have an AA filter!

[@derekalv911]

Kenneth Merrill this seems to be a hard spec to pin down, but here is a pretty good source: twitter.com/TCSTVChris/status/971819557085048832

[@mralexlex]

A7RIII does not have AA filter, A7III have only horizontal AA filter.

[@ekphotography]

Which makes the Nikon look even worse than it was compared to.

[@ggclawyer]

The D850 doesn't have a low pass filter , you can't compare sharpness using different lenses ! Try the same lens , i tried a7riii and d850 using the Milvus 85 , and milvus 135 both are equal in sharpness .

[@TheSlantedLens]

hi, yes we were wrong on the low pass filter. next time we'll try to get our hands on the same lenses.

[@philindeblanc]

@ggclawyer Of course you are right that you cannot compare sharpness with different lenses. They know this very well. This is not their first SLANTED video. They are professional product pushers, not honest info givers. Read my point by point call out on their "review" in the main thread..I still like their delivery and at least I hope the images they post and show are honest so we can see for ourselves. When that changes I would unsub :-)

[@MacClellandMan]

You are not buying just a camera body but a system. It is perfectly fair to put each maker's glass on each maker's body. This wasn't a test for third- party lenses. If a body cannot resolve with native gear, you probably don't want to buy that system. Being stuck having to go third-party is a big deficit. Pentax K1 being a good example.

[@NickGranville]

You guys forgot to mention the Sony’s have in body stabilisation, which Nikon doesn’t have. This is big for video, as even primes are stabilised.

[@kennethcmerrill]

Nick Granville dang you’re so right!

[@fdanny03]

but my A7R doesn't have it. did i have to buy it separately?

[@legendp2011]

+Dani F ....the original a7r doesn't have in body image stabilization (non of the 1st gen a7 cameras have ibis). everything after the sony a7ii does have ibis, you just have to enable it in the menu

[@acsaiyanbalce4610]

Absolutely, I have the Sigma mc-11 adapter and 3 sigma lenses all with OS. Im wondering if all the stabilization with both body and lens are used together? Only reason why I got the Sigma OS version (newer versions only come in OS) was for better focus tracking vs the older models...

[@Chopperbob56]

The Nikon D850 does not have an optical low-pass filter . Well done guys . I shoot the d850 and I absolutely love it . I think all of theses cameras are amazing. I do like that I can buy lenses all the way back to 1959 and still shoot them on this body. It’s also built like a tank and weather sealed. Nice review,thanks !!

[@brianfulda]

Got my a7III a few days ago and just watched this video today...thanks for confirming my purchase :)

[@TheSlantedLens]

Sweet! Hope you enjoy the camera

[@itsMido2]

Brian Fulda damn you're handsome!😍

[@Paul-D-Hoff]

Nikon D850 does not have a low pass filter. My D7200 and D5500 are the same in not having one.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey paul, thanks for catching that. you're right, it doesn't! apologies for the misinformation.

[@jennygw1883]

The Slanted Lens again.

[@333payaso]

Coming from them(TSL) are you surprised?

[@alexandreblanchet8856]

Maybe you should do a quick edit to the video to correct that. I also think that the very small differences in resolution that you see between the D850 and the A7R3 are more related to differences between lenses than sensor per se.

[@lookalikehuuh]

Also to note that the A7III DOES have a low pass filter. Sorry but this video needs to be redone with the correct information.

[@rtrajanoable]

This is the best review I’ve seen comparing the 3 Best Cameras right now. Thanks for making the video !

[@TheSlantedLens]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching and check out our other camera comparison videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHvHZmSXbcZ8b68

[@BarefootMediaTV]

my a7iii shipped today!

[@TheSlantedLens]

🙀 congrats, man! what are you shooting first?

[@BarefootMediaTV]

not going to lie, i like the nikon colors though

[@BarefootMediaTV]

i do video full time for an online school so probably just video testimonials. but lots of photoshoots lined up for fun at the beach this summer

[@TheSlantedLens]

sony still has a way to go on that front. but a lot better than where they were a few years ago. i think people just love them for the features.

[@TheSlantedLens]

nice! shoot over some of your photos on our facebook page when you get a chance.

[@sizzlemann]

Price considered, the Sony A7III is the clear winner for all around function! As a photographer and vlogger, the choice is easy.

[@TheSlantedLens]

it's a great best value buy for sure.

[@marct9587]

I just watched the whole video, and it seemed to me that the Nikon consistently had the best color in still shots. Look at the color in the model's clothes. It also had the best overall image quality in the low iso tests, as I can deal with a bit of grain if everything else is better. I just wish the D850 had a pop up flash on it. That said, the Sony a7 III looks really good for the money.

[@FlinterWoof]

I absolutely LOVE How in depth this comparison is!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good to hear. Thanks for your comment!

[@mallred4347]

Thanks Slanted Lens for a fun test. It's fun to see a bunch of arm chair editors out there with all kinds of comments about lenses used, low pass filter corrections and so on. And, of course, we can't forget the all important Bias allegations. Ignoring all of these silly comments, this was a fun, well intentioned review that I thought was very useful - coming from an A7R3 owner and would be D850 owner.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey M, thanks for taking our review with a grain of salt. we always suggest people to do their own comparisons so they can get a feel for the camera.

[@bemyzeke]

In your D850 vs A7R III comparion posted in December 2017, you guys declared A7R III superior in focus over D850. Now D850 is better then A7R III, what gives!

[@georgegbo8441]

It's depends on which camera maker is paying the most

[@AcidicDelusion]

Test nikon at iso 64 it will have the highest DR. Use a proper lens, the Nikon will be sharper. Drop all 3 cameras and the nikon will still work.

[@TheSlantedLens]

some of these things might be true! maybe our test was flawed.

[@MegaWeitzel]

They used a 24-70 F4 on the Sony, which is known to be the worst lens in the Sony system.

[@TheSlantedLens]

We did not use a 24-70 on the Sony. There is not one image in this test with a 24-70. It was a lens you may have seen as we traded the Sony 50 between the cameras. All Sony images were taken with the same 50mm lens that we traded between the cameras.

[@philindeblanc]

@AcidicDelusion I agree :-) The review is for the mass binary brains.

[@dalewatkins9889]

@Foto4Max - then there are those of us that rarely if ever use video (I never do) and don't care about ibis either...

[@Mcguppy]

I would go with the Nikon, being a landscape photographer the camera has a rough life sometimes, I know of a couple of people who have dropped their Sony and the lens mount broke clear off. ( Simon Baxter). I also dislike EVF’s, they have their advantages, would love a histogram in my OVF (technically impossibly). But the results from the Sony’s are great.

[@TheSlantedLens]

what do you prefer to use if not an EVF? do you shoot with a monitor?

[@gcnphilly]

Guys this was an awesome video. Super helpful and covered all the details. One thing that would have been interesting is a view of how the cameras perform in other situations, like architectural and the results of cropping. Beyond that, you helped me immensely. I shot with a Canon 5D MKII for years and it was definitely time for a change. I wanted a smaller body because I sometimes go out with a large format film camera to boot. Hauling both the film and Canon gear was crazy. The Sony makes all the difference, and one thing I'll say is that 24mp on the Sony is a vastly different experience and outcome than a similar mp count on the old Canon. You also helped me decide on the Sony a7III over the a7RIII. Thanks! Keep up the great work!

[@lucuslopez6866]

I was at BH Photo Video 2 days ago testing out the af on the A7r iii, Canon 5d mark iv and Nikon d850. The thing that blew me away was how fast the af on the A7r iii was compared to the other 2. The coverage and spread of the af point was very nice and it tracked the people walking around effortlessly. Canon 5d mark iv and Nikon d850 wasn't too impressive. Worked but didn't feel as responsive. With the Sony I didn't have to "focus and recompose". Old style af system with majority of the points in center. Fyi i have been shooting Canon dslr for last 8-9 years. Leaning toward Sony now but might do some more research before moving.

[@photojournalists]

No ISO 64 test? I think for DR test, I would have preferred to see you guys compared the Nikon at IS0 64 against the ISO 100 of sony. That way all cameras would be tested at their optimal iso settings.

[@DennisMoncla]

The Sony does 64 and 50. Would have liked to see it to but loved the video anyway.

[@RobertoPavan]

Those are non-native ISOs on the Sony. ISO 64 is native on the Nikon.

[@photojournalists]

@roberto - precisely! Nikon D850 (and D810) has a native iso 64 where it suppose to have the highest DR at that ISO.

[@DennisMoncla]

I think Nikon makes it "native" but it is doing the same thing. Either way I would like to see them compared.

[@photojournalists]

@dennis Monla - it's unclear what exactly Nikon is doing with their imaging pipeline. But various serious tests shows that Nikon 64 has an added bump in DR than 100. So it's seems to be doing something more. But then again the Sony A7Riii seemed darker. So maybe what sony calls iso 100 is more like iso 64 or 50.

[@davidbrown2806]

Your final suggestion was based on the price point. If money was not an issue would you still take the Sony 7iii over the Nikon 850 ?

[@trustnugget280]

One of the best videos regarding these latest cameras. Thank you for the detailed studys, I'm going to comb through your channel.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey thanks for checking us out. please subscribe :)

[@trustnugget280]

I did.

[@MLee-vcrr]

Even with the heavy compression, 4k uploads still show more detail when viewed on a proper 4k monitor. I own the A7R2 and a GH5S...yet I''m still torn between getting the A73 or a G9 as a backup for stills. There is no denying the A73 dynamic range. This video has been extremely helpful. Thanks for such a quick response and keep up the great work.

[@bobbyvwildlife]

Despite all the "you should have done this you should have done that" comments I thought you guys did an excellent job here. I wish more KZbin comparisons were as useful!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for the support Bobby! We just gotta keep on clickin and posting. We do appreciate the help we get from all our supporters. We wouldn't have been able to continue to improve without your help!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Have you checked out our new gimbal comparison video?

[@senged]

So use a $1000 lens from yesterday on 7R3 and a $500 lens from a whole decade ago on D850 and call it a comparison while not even being able to make sure they are shot at same ISO.. Well done.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey thanks for watching. hope you liked the video. sorry we couldn't get the same lenses.

[@kennethcmerrill]

Not sure what you mean about the ISO. We literally shot the same exact settings on every camera. Nikon is simply rated brighter than Sony. As for the lens, it's Nikon's own fault for not having a good 50mm! haha

[@taurusx1000]

i think the Sony a7iii wins outs in two key areas,focusing and low light capability,plus the advantage as a mirrorless to shoot through the lcd,for low/high angle compositions,as u rightly say the extra money can go into a good piece of glass which is more important

[@PeacePham1991]

Thanks for the test! What lenses did you use for this?

[@jmmott1424]

Thank you! This was very well done, an enjoyable learning experience. You covered all the points beautifully and helped me decide which Sony camera to buy next! The only aspect that was missed was the additional usability of the Sonys because of IBIS. It really makes a difference sometimes between catching the shot or missing it. Thanks again.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey jm, thanks for checking out our video! we're happy it was able to help you out. IBIS is a great point! thanks for your insight.

[@luminusbytanya3603]

We went with 2 a7iii cameras, I personally cannot express enough how much I LOOOOOVE this camera. We had Nikon's and Canon cameras prior. They are now sold.

[@TheSlantedLens]

yeah it's pretty amazing the type of quality you can get out of such a small camera

[@richardpcrowe]

For a guy who started photography when ASA (pre-runner to ISO but about same numbers) 125 was considered HIGH-SPEED; the high ISO capability of today's digital cameras (I shoot with a Sony A6500 and an A7iii) is absolutely mind boggling!

[@TheSlantedLens]

We will be going LIVE! at 3p so post some questions you have for us down below 👇

[@tucompaivan]

The Slanted Lens can you add to the test the flash, obvious manual and ttl

[@petrmarsal1697]

The Slanted Lens i

[@ObelixCMM]

Tamron 28/75 mm f2.8 for Sony FF next please

[@TheSlantedLens]

that's a great lens! we are definitely going to talk about it when we get our hands on one!

[@stackyal5807]

Is the resolution of the EVF on the a7III a deal breaker? Appreciate any feedback

[@CaravanMovies]

sir i shoot only videos I have nothing to with image quality so I just want to know A7III shoots 4K video without crop or not if it is a full frame camera surely i would like to buy A7III .. what is the differene in video quality between A7III and A7R

[@Galabsharma]

Best way of the reviews i have seen so far .. really illustrative .. clean

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for watching! Which one did you prefer?

[@Galabsharma]

@@TheSlantedLens A7 III going to purchase tomorrow evening .. sending off canon 5d3 already alongwith 70-200 2.8 mark ii

[@TheSlantedLens]

Sweet, I use the A7R3 as well as the A73 they are both great! Are you selling off your Canon 5D3 in exchange for the A73?

[@itsjustme77]

Great video and comparison! I learned quite a bit. I'm curious though why you didn't mention that the Sony A73 has a slightly different / tweaked color science compared to the A7R3. Look at the 9:00 mark. The A73 has less magenta, and earthier tones - looks more like a Canon even.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey jimmy, hmmm sorry we didn't catch that. good catch!

[@fayainz]

Really nice comparative review! The Sony A7iii gets my vote but I do think they can improve the weather sealing and handling on the camera. The boxy edges could be more rounded and refined but still maintaining a compact size.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey derek, thanks for your support! that would be great if weather sealing could be best.

[@wandererstraining]

Great review! I see a couple really good mentions in the comments below. -Using the same lens on all bodies for testing resolution would be a good idea. I suggest the sharpest Sigma ART you can find in the center (testing the sensor, not the lens). -Testing Nikon's ISO 64 for dynamic range. -Doing a little bit of noise reduction then downsampling the D850 and A7R III's files to compare them with the A7 III, because to me it's more about how much clean detail you can get with the camera you got.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey thanks for your thoughts! we will keep it in mind for next time

[@wandererstraining]

The Slanted Lens Awesome! And I love your videos, please keep them coming!

[@palashdesai1]

So I have a nikon 7200. I have about $1500 worth of lenses all of which work with an FX sensor. Thoughts about choosing a7iii over nikon 850? Basically from a price standpoint it is a wash because the sony is lot less expensive so I can invest in glass. Having a hard time deciding. I am concerned about the evf

[@fuzzytalz]

Nikon user here. I've been using an A7RIII for the last month and, with the vertical grip and controls customized, actually love the handling. And the 24-70/2.8 and 85/1.4 G Master lenses are dramatically superior to the Nikon counterparts, contributing to overall image quality that is a step beyond my D810. As a portrait shooter, it's getting hard to find a reason NOT to choose the Sony over the NIkon. BTW, the Nikon D850's sensor DOES NOT have an AA filter.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey garland, thanks for sharing your experience! it's good to hear!

[@Nikonover]

Great review, the best I've seen, I was a Nikon owner for 20 years, and just changed to Sony a7r111 + 300=600 G lens. The menu takes some working out, but very happy with it. The Nikon is a D7200 which is still a great camera.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Glad to hear you are happy with it!

[@KevinSaruwatari]

Nice work on an interesting comparison! Further to pixel peeping, I think an exercise in cropping the image would help differentiate the 7III from the hi-res cameras. More than composition, the high-res camera are like a full frame and crop sensor 2-in-1 so the cameras can (arguably) make more use of lenses and create DOF options that may not be available at lower res. Take a 70-200 for example, 200mm has a better chance of acting like a 300mm on the high-res cameras. Pull it back to 135mm and for the same aperture get more DOF than using the full 200. Making more use of less lenses can offset the price difference, especially on the long end... not that I care since I'm an M4/3 loser anyway! But it seems to me the ability to crop is the main advantage of high-res. If you are going to add tests, I think the results would be valuable for decision making.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey kevin, thanks for your insight. we will keep that in mind for next time.

[@515capncrunch]

On the topic of exposure accuracy or bias between the Nikon and Sony, and also giving another tool addressing the recovery capabilities in RAW digital files, my Sony A7iii has the ability to fine tune the “Exposure Sandard Adjust” for each of the five metering modes. My Canons do not have this capability and I have never heard any discussion of Nikon having this ability to fine tune your meter bias in 1/6 stop increments for a more accurate base meter reading for each individuals style of shooting. The “Zone System” did not work if your meter was not calibrated properly (as well as your technique in applying it). There is a difference in the manufacturers bias in metering and this is the first tool I’ve seen to make it your own rather than the old exposure comp dial permanently set at -1/3 etc.

[@TheSlantedLens]

thanks for your insight!

[@jharmon1164]

One thing that may concern pros or even avid amateurs is the ergonomics. I hand hold my camera for sessions that are 2 plus hours in length. The form factor on the Sony’s is so small that I have heard people complain about there not being enough space between the grip and the lens, mainly the larger 70-200 lens, and their knuckles being sore from pressing against the lens. I shoot a Nikon D850 and love it. I don’t do much if any video and I love the ergonomics. I think all 3 cameras are great and leaving Canon in the dust, for now. For me and my use as a professional portrait and landscape photographer Nikon was the best choice for me. Yes I wish they would have in camera stabilization.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey, definitely something to consider.

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

One thought about the high ISO test: for the high-magnification inset, different magnification levels for different sensor resolution might be more informative. For example, looking at the subject's eye, using 200% for the A7RIII and D850 and 300% on the A7III would give approximately the same size inset image. While it seems like a "have your cake and eat it too" situation, emphasizing the total resolution at low ISO but setting aside the high resolution for high ISO pictures, I think that is how the cameras are used. When a photographer wants to make the best, high-res image, they will try to keep the ISO low. When they are going up to ISO 6400 and higher, they generally want the best overall image, rather than a high-res blow-up. The A7III may still be better at 300% magnification than the A7RIII and D850 at 200%, and it would be interesting to see that. Thanks! For the resolution test, while the Nikon 50mm f/1.4G is a very good lens, it is far from the best lens available for the D850, especially if the budget goes from $450 to $1500, the price for the Sony Planar T* FE 50mm f/1.4 ZA. Of course, it's on Nikon that their 50mm f/1.4G is subpar compared to some of the other Nikon (and third-party) primes. Overall, a great review! And even with these nitpicks, I agree that the A7III is a good choice for many, for $1300 less. Until the price of all the G-Master lenses eats some of the difference, of course. :-D

[@sethcashman1011]

Great review, as always, guys. However, the D850 has no low pass filter, either. Wondering why the a7riii is so much sharper. Lens?

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey seth, thanks for catching our mistake! sorry, we're only human, right? the a7riii has more megapixels which could be a factor. but the nikon supposedly had a bad 50mm on it.

[@Photo-ms1mo]

The Slanted Lens More megapixels , that's interesting hmm ???

[@a1adtakx]

Talking about the sony a7r3. If you have the focus point on the eye and continuous on doesn't that throw it off in the results you found? Making it hard to pull a good eye focus?

[@james1939-s1c]

The second you threw the Canon I gave you a thumbs up! LOL Canon gave up on the camera market, so we might as well give up on them.

[@TheSlantedLens]

yeah i think they're concentrating more on their sensors and lenses.

[@farisalfaris8120]

At 8:06 you said that the D850 has a low pass filter, the truth is that it has no low pass filter. An other poit to view is that nikon d850 seems not to be less sharper in that image, for a simple reason, may be due to some shake in the model face or shake in the hand of the photographer .. etc For sharpness test you must always do the test using a tripod and stationary well fixed detailed object, and for sure try to use the same lens for each as possible as you can. An other important point here, you use the model's eye to make your decesion, and the eye tracking makes abig difference here toward the sony, because the nikon has no eye tracking autofocis. Thanx for your videos ..

[@TheSlantedLens]

Wow, I think you should be doing these comparisons. Great points, most of which we are doing.

[@farisalfaris8120]

@@TheSlantedLens Thanx Bro.

[@irajnaghash]

You should have used Nikon Lens Not Tamron lens for Nikon, Not Fair Comparison

[@BensCoffeeRants]

For the Noise test you should also zoom in on the detail area to see if you're losing details / sharpness to noise suppression, perhaps one looks like it has less noise but it also has some noise suppression removing details where the noisier one does not.

[@TheSlantedLens]

thanks ben for your suggestions. we are always trying to make these reviews better!

[@paulgrimard7863]

I paired my 850 with a Sigma Art 35mm 1.4,.. I have never seen such clear pictures in any other camera configurations yet.

[@youareawesome8]

Nice review guys, I think you should have a high iso test in video too. I think is quite important feature. Thanks again

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey kc. we did an iso test for photos and thought it wouldn't add anything to do one for video. maybe for next time we can!

[@youareawesome8]

The Slanted Lens . Thanks for the reply other reviewers tested and the result was quite shocking that the A7III were almost 2 stop better at 6400 and above. I just want see if others have the same result. Thanks again.

[@Sacrypheyes]

wasn't surprised at the Cont-AF test results since the A7RIII uses the same sensor as the A7RII with the same amount of AF focus points, while the A7III sensor is pretty much the little brother of the A9's, with the main difference being it's not stacked.

[@TheSlantedLens]

interesting good to know!

[@ilja4420]

Models of cameras is in list, but lenses - no. Lenses is more important :)

[@jerryfaircloth]

Where are the long lenses for the Sony's. So if you need 600mm f4 glass what do you use, an adapter and a Nikon/Canon lens? How well do they track fast moving objects like birds in flight, racecars, motorcycles etc? Can you switch autofocus modes instantly with programmable buttons while shooting? I could be biased as I need and use those with my D850/D500's. When mirrorless can do everything I need better than what I already have then I will be switching. They already can do some things better just not everything yet.

[@TheSlantedLens]

yeah sony is a bit behind when it comes to native glass

[@thajourneyofk.delaiso4268]

Which Sony out the two are good for Landscaped,Sport and Portrait

[@robertgiguere875]

Great review! Your review is definitely a pleasant surprise. I have a Sony a7ii, with some Tameron & Sigma glass and plan to upgrade to either the A7Riii or A7iii. (Of note: I've been trying my 18-35 Sigma with converter for Canon mount and getting surprisingly good resolution even with serious reduction in megapixels). crop-sensor

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is great to hear. Thanks for your comment!

[@jeanchristophe1134]

Thank you very much for your video. Very investing. I don't know much about photography. If you had used a Nikon Lense instead of a Sony (apparently, a 50mm), would the results have been even better for the D850 ?

[@TheSlantedLens]

lens choice does matter. a good lens is better than an ok camera. a sharp glass with less adorations will give you better results. if you're just starting out, just work with what you have until you feel comfortable spending more money on gear

[@jeanchristophe1134]

Thank you for your answer. Does it make sense to change a Canon EOS 100D (EOS Rebel SL1) for one of this camera? I never tried a digital full frame camera. And it is hard to know if there is a big difference for photography (and video).

[@Zeckson]

The video looks very soft even at 1080p on KZbin. What did you use to film it? In addition, Sony does not have a 50/1.4 GM. That's a Sony/ZEISS Planar T* FE 1.4/50 ZA.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey zeckson chow chon wai. thanks for checking out our video. we used the c200 to film this. maybe we missed the focus?

[@croppermc]

Although there are a few flaws in this review, I think it is one of the most useful reviews on these cameras out there. Thanks for making it. One suggestion I have is that I think there should have been more attention paid to color rendition between these 3 cameras.

[@TheSlantedLens]

thanks for your thoughts. we will take it into consideration.

[@thehorologist7926]

Guys the camera store which I buy my gear from have the A7RIII for only $230 more than the A7III...now that their prices are almost similar which camera would you recommend to buy?

[@malcolmkermode9794]

I think the difference in sharpness is down to the lens used. Try it with a Zeiss Milvus or Sigma Art 50mm or 85mm lens and the resolution will change dramatically.

[@TheSlantedLens]

lens sharpness does play a roll in that. we will try better next time!

[@sdgreen1960]

I'm puzzled : if both the D850 & A7Riii both don't have a LP filter, how is it that the latter appears to show more detail, especially that the D850 has fractionally more resolution? This could be related, but in my opinion the biggest weakness of the Nikon system is their lenses (optical & build quality). The Sony lenses are excellent in both categories

[@marilyndenyer8107]

Hi, downloading files from does that take for ever with an i7 16gb ram? or using them in lightroom?

[@TheSlantedLens]

Processing speeds are a concern with large megapixel sensors. But that is the beauty of Lightroom, it is a virtual look at the image.

[@veerbhadraarya8918]

Great review .It helps me lot to choose camera

[@TheSlantedLens]

thanks for tuning in. be sure to check out our other reviews.

[@realographystudios7035]

AT 29:49 you said the A7Riii on the right...... but that was labeled A7R. did you say it wrong or were the images labeled backward?

[@TheSlantedLens]

I am sure I must have said it wrong. Thanks for watching.

[@bemyzeke]

Nikon has been producing cameras without OPLF since 2012. They started the industry trend with D800E. You guys just found this out through the comments! Similarly Nikon has had Eye-Detect AF in all modern cameras, including D750, D810, and D850. RTM! RTM!

[@Kennyh27]

Great video has helped me make my decision going with the a7iii. Thank you 👍

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey kenny, thanks for checking out our video!

[@AI-mo6tx]

It’s the first A7r still worth getting in 2020?

[@TheSlantedLens]

We haven't tested the a7R. It is still worth looking into.

[@MacM545]

I don't know about video, but my favorite for photography would be Sony A73 or Nikon D850. If you don't need pixel shift, which I find I don't need for landscape, because I can do better with image processing. D850 is then king of resolution, but I find the A73 design desirable. However, I prefer the D850's viewfinder.

[@TheSlantedLens]

yeah. it's too bad the a73 and the d850 can't just get together in a room and have a baby. because then you'd get the best of both worlds.

[@sittieainie9871]

I personally own an A7III and its really sharp. However its in landscape and architectural shots where the A7RIII really shows its versatility, as you can be a bit more flexible with cropping. Also, it maxmizes your arsenal of lenses by giving it an pseudo-extended reach in super 35 mode ✌🏻✌🏻

[@DmitryBrodsky007]

everyone mentioned it but i will as well, Nikon of course should have been tested at its native ISO64, that's where it has the most optimal DR

[@joecerda630]

Tested the Sony's at WPPI...still bought the D850...and have not looked back.

[@TheSlantedLens]

glad you were able to find a camera that worked for you. what was your deciding factor?

[@joecerda630]

The Slanted Lens...the feel in the hands, the construction magnesium with carbon fibre...oh my 😎, (picture quality was good on both even on your video I believe its splitting hairs), used to Nikon s menu system from my D500, I have lots of Nikon glass so to start over...😵. One of the specs that had me on the fence was the continuous exposure view...as it turned out both my D500 and D850 have it in live view...the D850 also has focus peaking for when using my Voigtlander 58mm 1.4 and has electronic shutter...so I don't see Sony in my near future.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey joe, yeah it's hard to switch when you're already so invested in one lens system. the form factor and menu system is both really great on the nikon as well.

[@zaintlouis]

What lens did the nikon camera used in this comparison?

[@TheSlantedLens]

nikon 50mm f/1.4

[@RezaMolavi]

Thank you for the post. Are you using the latest Sony a7RIII firmware; they have in=mproved the general and specific autofocus functions.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hmm i'm not sure actually. i should check on that!!

[@chandan6119]

nice comparison keep it up guys,but you should give some points to sony and mention many video centric features that nikon lacks.hybrid cameras are essential nowadays.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey thanks for your insight! would love for you to join us on our chat at 3!

[@harrywayneclayton542]

Really good comparison...but in my country the Nikon D850 is 4,000 dollars for body only..where as the Sony a7iii is 2500 for body only...so as a hobbyist I can only afford the Sony A7 iii..by the time you add G master glass...or similar...it gets pricey..

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is a drastic price difference. The Sony A7R3 is a really great camera though, don't sell yourself short!

[@TheMesomovie]

The video leads the viewer to believe the Nikon D850 has a low pass filter. It does not. The differences in "sharpness" can be explained away by differences in contrast of the lenses used.

[@TheSlantedLens]

thanks for the insight! wish we could be right 100% of the time, but hey, we're only human

[@petergunndetective]

Have to agree with you on that. It looks like they are using the 55mm 1.8 for the Sony, one of the sharpest lenses they have, and the 50mm 1.8 for the Nikon... which I own and never use because it doesn't do the D850 justice. Nikon really doesn't have a good 50 for the D850 so I just use a Tamron 45mm for mine. Other than the spotty autofocus I would say a Sigma 50 1.4 would be a good lens to use for sharpness comparison. It's right up there with the 55mm Sony.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey peter, thanks for your insight! we try to test the cameras with native glass since they usually are pretty good. your suggestions are helpful though! thanks!

[@TheMesomovie]

Peter Gunn Wow! Ditto here. I use the 45mm Tamrom instead of the Nikon 35mm (which seems sharper in corners) because of the VC. I have the 50mm 1.8f...somewhere, maybe in my lower desk drawer....

[@TheSlantedLens]

it's a good paper weight!

[@sunkenbranchphotography9943]

Thanks for the nice comparison. I have the 7R3. Mirrorless can be great if implemented right. Olympus OM-D with its touch to focus/touch to shoot back screen is great. Sony could improve theirs with that technology including eye focus. Also, portrait orientation shooters could use an articulating screen. Sony could extend their focus points to the edge of the sensor. My most used Nikon is the D500 for sports and I look forward to a Sony high end APS-C competitor or a D500M (mirrorless). I would not want to give up the high resolution viewfinder just to save some money, nor do I think that the A9 is worth the money with its mechanical shutter limitations for flash. The benefit of mirrorless giving a preview of the live view effect is very nice and Sony's manual focus assist is great.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hi sunken branch photography, thanks for checking out our video. pros and cons and you have to meet somewhere in the middle.

[@RolandAyala]

Hard choice. Mirrorless is the future and Nikon is only just now figuring that out. D850 would be my choice considering cameras alone, but can't bring myself to continue investing in Nikon glass that will need to be adapted to future mirrorless cameras so I've jumped the Nikon ship. As for Sony, I've owned them all the A7 series cameras up through A7RII but I sold them all in 6 months or less. They're great on paper, feature packed, and deliver great technical IQ. But they're a terrible ergo fit for me and I hated shooting with them, Play Memories is a joke, they're not very rugged, and product overall feels rushed to me. I've since moved on to Fuji and am elated with their system and the images they produce. Fantastic lenses for about 1/2 the cost of Sony because less glass required for crop sensor, they're lightweight, well thought out ergonomically, and fun to use. I love the images that come out of the camera much more than my old A7RII and D810. My advice to people trying to decide a system is try out different cameras and don't let bandwagon effect sway your decision making. Pick the camera you enjoy using the most and that delivers the most pleasing images without worrying about technical specs and sensor size, etc. The reality is that most modern cameras are capable of producing great images.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hi roland, yes! lots to consider when buying a camera in today's market,

[@tooshmart6669]

Im ready to sell $6k of Nikon equipment to switch to the A7III, Tamron 28-75(Native) & 70-200 G2 (Canon mount) all for $3800 brand new. If Nikon delivers eye-AF, IBIS, and 4K, then I wont be going anywhere for the next 10 years just like the past 10 years. Nikon's release is gonna make or break them in my opinion not only with me but with quite a few mirrorless hold-outs. On a side note I honestly couldnt care if it was mirrorless or not, todays features is what I crave.

[@rahulbareja6490]

Nikon D850 doesn't have a low pass filter!

[@TheSlantedLens]

thanks for pointing that out rahul! sorry for the misinformation!

[@thearabicdp]

These where my the choices right now as well. I'm definitely going with the a7iii after doing all the research. It would have been nice if you can do some glass comparison between these cameras

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey jihad, thanks for checking out our review. we suggest you try testing out those lenses and see which ones you like best.

[@jpdj2715]

When you compare resolution (as in megapixel), then look at the linear difference. I.e. pixels resolution horizontal. MP ratio: 24 100% 42.2 176% 45.7 190% H Linear ratio: 6000 100% 7952 133% 8288 138%

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey thanks for doing this research. i'm sure it would be helpful for someone on here!

[@314shorts]

The d850 does NOT have a low pass filter, just to clarify since the video was incorrect

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@lwhite7991]

With sharpness your test is flawed, lens selection play a major factor on the results. Next camera shoot out , if possible use 85 sigma art on all 3 bodies. This would help with maxing out the sensor and giving a more accurate skin tone rendering. Auto focus test would still need to remain with native glass for Max accuracy! Great review!

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey l, thanks. we try our best. grabbing 3 of the same lens is sometimes hard/expensive. but we try our best.

[@lwhite7991]

The Slanted Lens understood! The quality of content you guys put out I’m sure borrow lens or lens rental will loan some glass. My sigma 85 1.4 are is super sharp more sharp then my 85 1.4 and 1.8. I’m currently selling both my Nikon 85’s to maximize my sensor sharpness

[@PieterBreda]

Excellent video as always.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey pieter, thanks for the comment! we appreciate your support!

[@PieterBreda]

Your channel is one of the channels which take the time to really test things out. That is always nice to watch. You should rewatch some of your own videos in which Sony cameras featured when they had just started. Amazing how they have progressed and the once mighty Canon slowly sinks in the waves.

[@TheSlantedLens]

glad to hear that you've been a fan for a while! thanks again for keeping us in mind for camera reviews.

[@lorenzo4262]

hello, what do you think now, with last firmware upadates, regarding autofocus a7riii vs a7iii

[@peterherzog2454]

Been a Nikon shooter for many years. I picked up a Sony A6000 and a couple of kit lens for around $550.00 for a trip I'm planning later this summer. Love this camera but not wanting to put too much cash into a new system, I traded in my Nikon D810 for the Sony A7RII. It should arrive later on this afternoon. I was pretty much an even trade at Adorama. If things work out, I'll purchase an adapter that will allow me to shoot A Sony lens mount lens on my E mount Sony cameras. Still going to hold on to my Nikon D 500, just love it.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey peter, thanks for sharing your story. good luck with the a7rii battery life!

[@peterherzog2454]

Going to get the grip that will let me use 2 batteries

[@Hebhansen]

Low light iso in print would be really cool to know 👍

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes, that would be nice to know. We rarely do print work in our reviews.

[@anunnakirs]

a7iii 14 stop of dynamic rage on video, is that for real, better than black magic pocket the old one?... please say yes!!!!!

[@timothyhines6220]

I owned the Nikon D850 (got in on the first batch of pre-orders) and sold it. It had several major issues. The number one issue was that face detect would get nose, forehead, or cheek instead of eyes. I switched to a Sony A7RII and it was the best decision I've made in years. Eye AF, small, lightweight, EVF shows exposure before image is taken, lenses are typically sharper than Nikon's, silent shutter mode, no need to extensively calibrate each lens for accurate manual focus, slog, better color rendition (in my opinion), sensor stabilization, etc, etc... I realize the Sony A7RIII has better AF, longer battery life, and dual card slots... but I don't miss any of those features. The difference in AF performance isn't that great. The A7RII comes with two batteries instead of one, so I've always been able to shoot all day without trouble (I get far more images than what they rate the batteries for). Even when I had dual card slots available, I never set the second slot to record a backup file. I've had an issue with a memory card just once in over ten years (and I was able to get the images from the card), so I don't bother taking extra precautions. Anyway, I spent the price difference between an A7RII and an A7RIII on an extra lens. The A73 and A7RII are about the same price now, so I think the A7RII would be a good option for those that want a higher resolution. A higher resolution generally makes the images look sharper and you are able to crop in extremely close (I was able to get an amazing shot once by cropping in when I didn't have the proper lens available). Overall, it's not that important. The file sizes are larger, which means you need a lot of memory on your computer to work on multiple images at the same time (my computer couldn't handle it until I put in more memory). I've also heard that higher resolution sensors can cause more motion blur, but I haven't noticed it in my images...

[@TheMesomovie]

And yet, Nikon D850 is still in deep back order and the Sony A(whatever) can be bought right now...

[@robertsmithington8892]

Haha! The beginning cracked me up. It’s ironic that the Canon and Nikon folks teamed up to bash the new A7III and r, when Canon isn’t even in the same league any longer and Nikon is using Sony Sensors. Keep up the entertaining and informative videos.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey robert. thanks for watching! glad we could get a few laughs.

[@bill2292]

Thanks for the great review! I always appreciate the opinion of a true professional.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey bill thanks a lot for checking it out! hope it was useful.

[@derrick9903]

great video you gave me the approval my descision was a good one :D ty guys great testing

[@kismat_rana]

This video was applicably quite informative !!

[@TheSlantedLens]

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[@TheSlantedLens]

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[@rattoh]

Why didn't you guys downsample the big mega pixel cameras down to the a7iii for the ISO grain test?

[@TheSlantedLens]

hi lirc, we didn't because we were just comparing the cameras as is. one of the features of the a7r and d850 is that they have more megapixels so we wanted to see how they faired.

[@hendryyyy1262]

Guys help me to decide.. im a nikon and lumix shooter.. used a d300s and d500 before for works.. now im planning to upgrade my gear.. already sold my camera and lenses.. which one should i go.. d850 or a7r iii.. i shoot prewed and weddings.. and i always have hobbies for astro photography and landscape..

[@TheSlantedLens]

you would have to decide on what features are the most important to you and go from there. is low light performance important? hi resolution? form factor? size?

[@hendryyyy1262]

The Slanted Lens my kind of work take all of that into account.. eventhough im rarely shooting in low light situation.. but i do need my camera to be reliable aince i dont have a back up camera.. im using g85 for video.. i like the form factor of d850 more than the a7 lines of sony.. since im used to using nikon before.. but i do think that sony finally have become the game changer in the industry.. since mirrorless seems to be the future of camera.. if it u guys to decide.. which one would u pick?..

[@stevecraig9384]

I own the a7iii and I just love it. The a7ii is not quick on focus I stop using it for weddings but the a7iii focus is point on. The a7ii is great for portraits but not for nothing else as far as action work.

[@TheSlantedLens]

hey steve, thanks for your insight. glad to hear that you found the camera that works for you

[@ItsPinecone_911]

Now that the A7R 3 jas had its firmware update 3.01 back in early 2019 its better at auto focusing. I also have the A7R 3....just got it because of the 42.4mp resolution.....but yes the A7 3 is prolly the best. But fast forward today and Im waiting to see what the new A7 4 will be capible of come early next year before I deside if I want the A7 3 or get the A7 4..........Im already wanting the A7R 4 for that 61.0mp resolution.