NEW Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN II Art REVIEW in-depth

[@cameralabs]

My Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN II Art review: half the price of the Sony GM II! Order the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN II Art from B&H: bhpho.to/3WEtmbf or WEX UK: tidd.ly/3wGVFev Sell your used gear to MPB at: bit.ly/3ULU9yL Buy used gear from MPB at: prf.hn/l/YLqwRAP Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Cameralabs merchandise: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Gordon’s retro gear channel: kzbin.info Equipment used for producing my videos DJI Osmo Pocket 3: click.dji.com/AIOhqT-LWUFDq-bGk8hD4Q?pm=link Panasonic Lumix S5 II: amzn.to/3Hf5IcI Sony A6400: prf.hn/l/pRO0wp5 Sony e 24mm f1.8: amzn.to/2TqWNzk Rode NT USB mic: amzn.to/3AdHcUp Rode Wireless Go II mic: amzn.to/3xkCvGo Rode Lavalier Go mic: amzn.to/3ygzzKY Godox UL150 light: amzn.to/2VpVbXE Godox QR-P70 softbox: amzn.to/3yQfGdF MacBook Pro 14in (16GB / 1TB): amzn.to/3PrKbPV 00:00 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art introduction and rivals 02:36 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art design and controls 04:10 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art profiles 04:37 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art focusing 05:39 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art focus breathing 06:20 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art stabilization 07:56 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art landscape quality 10:50 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art portrait quality 12:13 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art bokeh quality 13:27 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art sunstars and flare 13:43 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art macro quality 14:43 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 DG DN II Art verdict and sample images Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases

[@everydayisextra]

I absolutely love it when you not only do a very informative review but also manage to answer absolutely every possible question I didn’t even have four hours earlier. Thanks for your continued greatness in what you’re doing, Gordon!

[@cameralabs]

Thankyou very much!

[@PaulAmyes]

After all these years of using Belvoir Ginger Cordial bottles for your autofocus tests they should sponsor you. The tag line should be "Belvoir the drink that helps you focus".

[@cameralabs]

YES! Someone needs to tell them!

[@Candasul]

The review is amazing.. I looked at all the reviews posted online. And frankly, I find it unnecessary for someone using the Sigma 24-70 DG DN Mark 1 to switch to this one. There doesn't seem to be enough difference between DG DN Mark 1 and Mark 2 to sell the old lens and buy a new one. 24-70 DG DN The corner performance of Mark 2 is slightly better than Mark 1. Contrast is improved. Apart from this, a diaphragm ring has been added. And there is 1 extra button. It is not better than its rival Sony 24-70 GM II. But it is at a very good point in terms of price. However, the 24-70 DG DN Mark 1 was in a much better position than the Sony 24-70 GM 1 when it was announced. In short, the situation shows this; If Sigma 24-70 DG DN Mark 1 users do not need an aperture ring, 100 grams less weight and a little more corner sharpness, there is no need to switch. For those who are going to buy a new lens from scratch and find the Sony 24-70 GM II too expensive; If they want to achieve 95 percent of the performance of the GM II at almost half the price, it makes much more sense to buy the Sigma 24-70 DG DN II.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@Nonaxisymmetric]

A busy day for lens and camera reviews! Wonderfully comprehensive as always.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, it's been rather busy...

The focus breathing there 17:03 is VERY strange, you can see it actually changes the spherical distortion quite remarkably, meaning that'll be difficult if not impossible to fix with normal tools (such as Resolve stabiliser). There must be something quite odd going on with the elements. It's less visible at 70mm, though it is there.

[@cameralabs]

My test does show the full focusing range from nearest to furthest though which no-one is likely to do. I'd base an eval more on my shorter focus pull on the bottle or my piece to camera.

@@cameralabs That's a fair point. Regardless, it's a very odd effect, especially at the wide end! To be honest I do often pull all the way from background to quite close for products and so on, but usually with a longer focal length. I don't think I've seen this kind of distortion variation before!

[@backdrifter49]

Thank you for another fabulous review. I am partial to the smoother quality of the background blur/bokeh on this lens in comparison to its predecessor and also the GM II. The mark I Sigma, just based on sample images I remember seeing, seemed to have a more sudden falloff and a harsher, busier, somewhat distracting look to the background. This new lens seems to render quite nicely.

[@cameralabs]

I agree, it's an attractive style

[@funtaril]

I watched 5 reviews (Chris&Jordan, Christopher Frost, Gerald Undone, Arthur R and you), and everyone sees completely different results with all aspects of this lens, except maybe center sharpness and focusing speed. And it's not the case of "you should watch more reviews to get comprehensive opinion" - no, it's just like y'all got very different lenses. Just compare results in testing LOCA, focus breathing, distortion, onion ringing and even sun stars! I can't build ANY opinion this time

[@cameralabs]

Hmmm, that's odd, maybe, sample variation? Mine was very good

[@6gwilliams]

Thanks Gordon Laing, excellent work as usual. I have had the version one of the Sigma Art 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN for years now and love it. Not sure if it is worth it to sell the version one and get the version two. I shoot A1, A9III, A7RV, so maybe I will save up and get the Sony 24-70mm f2.8 GM II in the future just for the higher frame rates. I wish Sony would stop its enforced restriction on fps with third-party E-mount lens, as these same lenses do full fps on L-mount. Cheers

[@zepps46]

Hi Gordon hope you are well. I am torn between the om-1 or the G92, I have checked out both of your reviews which are both excellent, would you have a preference which one Gordon.

[@cameralabs]

It's been a while, but probably OM1

[@kenneth6102]

It's always at the Briton Piers that I realised KZbin changes my resolution to 720p 😂 I am on the R8 as I made the purchase after watching your Canon EOS R8 and Sony A7iv videos. I am very happy with my purchase. I put the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG OS HSM Art lens on it with the Canon EF-EOS R Control Ring Mount. The image is better than I anticipated and I was very happy with it... until my family of 4 went travelling to some high altitude destination. The lens + mount was 1.2 KG and it felt like a mini-fridge. I traded it in for the RF 24-105mm f4L for halving the weight (600g). I regret that purchase. The image is inferior, both the sharpness and, especially, the chromatic aberrations are very disappointing. It's good enough for travel, at least it is light, but it's inadequate for my studio fashion portfolio. I am thinking whether I should buy the old Sigma lens I previously own secondhand again, or wait for this lens to come out on the RF mount, since I heard Canon is finally allowing 3rd party manufacturers to make RF lenses. I still have my non-L RF prime lenses, so I am not in a hurry. You have helped every of my camera gear purchasing decision, and I have been very happy with all of them so far (it wasn't you in the 24-105mm f4 video). Please advice. PS. I wasn't unhappy with the purchase, just that I expected more of the new RF lens. I literally feel that the RF50mm f1.8 and RF85mm f2 both outperform the RF24-105 f4L at f4 and the zoom is set at the primes focal length. Of course, the zoom lens is way more diverse in focal lengths. You win some, you lose some.

[@cameralabs]

Well I wouldn't hold your breath for full-frame Sigma lenses for Canon, that might take some time. It's only cropped APSC right now. So maybe consider using some RF primes until then?

[@kenneth6102]

@@cameralabs True. I might actually buy another used Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG OS HSM Art for Canon EF mount the second time if changing lenses on set becomes too cumbersome. I made 200 quid after using it for 2 years, I simply cannot complain.

[@cellphonehistorian1491]

Hi, Gordon, do you think this is better than lumix Pro 24-70 and Leica SL 24-70? What’s your opinion? Thanks! And BTW I bought your book, I find it is very good 👍

[@cameralabs]

Thanks for buying my book! Unfortunately I've not tested either that Lumix or Leica lens, but my suspicion is it would outperform the Lumix one being newer.

[@JessDemant]

I bought this Sigma lens for my Sony A7cII as I thought that Sony's equivalent GM lens way too expensive, and I have not regretted it at all as my Sigma lens has now really opened my eyes 👀to Sigma's fantastic Art series lenses 👍

[@cameralabs]

It is really good isn't it?

[@JessDemant]

@@cameralabs Yes 👍

[@mohammadsiam4819]

For travel and landscape will you recommend this lens? I'm planning to buy it with sony a7r iiia

[@cameralabs]

Yes it's very good

[@p.k.babacreation4505]

I hv g masterii ..its really amazing....compelling then sigma,, price is secondary thing, but quality,,,,is d first priority for me...

[@alchemymagick]

Hi Gordon, which would you say has better AUTOFOCUS (both photo & video) between this new Sigma 24-70 II or the Lumix S-Pro 24x70? Also if price is not an issue, in general which of the 2 would you choose? I want the lens that works best with the camera body S5IIX.

[@cameralabs]

Good question, but sadly I can't answer as I've not tested the Lumix lens. I'd expect them both to be good though, maybe the Sigma would be faster as a newer lens.

[@grgosimovic]

Amazing content!! Would you recommend this or panny 24-105 for mainly video? Is it a battle even? I don't necessarily need 70+mm the panny offers. I own lumix s5iix, which is very good in low light anyway and IOS (which only the panny lens has).

[@cameralabs]

If you don't need 70+ and you'd value f2.8, then this is the lens for you!

[@Whaever_1981]

Great video. Thanks!! :) Seems like focus breathing is worse than on the 24-70 2.8 DG DN mark I though :/

[@Whaever_1981]

And I also believe the Mark I is more parfocal, not 100% but definitely more (based on reviews I've seen online and experience with my own)

[@jaketheman7402]

Damn I finally found a video with that stabilisation. I need one that compares with Sony gm ii

[@maaaps]

Agree that active stabilization works better on sony native lenses than third party… just curious if you thought the active stabilization on v2 of the sigma was any better than v1? Or about the same?

[@cameralabs]

About the same

[@kevinl8791]

Mostly for video, which one would you choose, Sony 24-105 f4 OSS vs this new sigma 24-70 art mark 2 f2.8? btw I’m using a Sony zv-e1, also I have gimbal dji rs mini 3, thanks!! 🙌

[@maaaps]

@@kevinl8791 Ultimately only you can make that decision. Both options… every option really, will have upsides and downsides. A couple things I would point out; the 24-105 is a bit old. Wouldn’t surprise me if it gets a refresh before too long. I own the v1 of the sigma 24-70. Overall it’s fantastic. Biggest downsides for me are the weight; it works pretty well with the rs3 (I have the regular gimbal, not the mini) but any heavier I think would be too much. Don’t know how it would be on the mini. V2 of the sigma is a little lighter. Second and biggest problem for me is the fact that active stabilization is less effective on 3rd party lenses. That really hurts when I don’t want to drag the gimbal around. Does sometimes make me wish I had the native Sony 24-70 2.8 or supposedly upcoming 24-70 f2.

[@maaaps]

​@@kevinl8791 There's no perfect lens, it's all a series of tradeoffs. I use v1 of the Sigma 24-70 with the RS3 (not the mini) and it's pushing the weight limit. I think it's doable on the mini but barely. Don't know if there are any reports yet about the slightly lighter V2 on the mini. Thing I miss most with the Sigma is the enhanced active stabilization. For that reason (and it's probably the only reason) I do sometimes wish I had the native Sony version. The 24-105 is an older lens; it's probably going to get a refresh before too long. Sony 20-70 F4 and 24-50 2.8 should probably be on your list too. Personally, I don't like zooms that start at 28mm; losing 24mm is a deal breaker for me, but again, all down to preference.

[@Djalesalty]

Amazing review!! Thank you!!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@brianmckeever5280]

I was just noticing you always have the edge-to-edge angles so the ocean doesn't flood Brighton, good call ;-) Nice thorough review to my eyes and ears. I use MFT, but I still enjoy your videos.

[@cameralabs]

It's my tripod, I can't get it level

[@brianmckeever5280]

​@@cameralabs Ben did a video on tripods recently, maybe he has a recommendation ;-) Hey, do you use geared tripod heads? Suffering from some G.A.S. WRT the Leofoto G4. I use them so rarely its hard to justify the $$ let alone the $$$$ for an Arca-Swiss. Sadly, the two I currently have both sag a bit too often, which is what I was trying to avoid in the first place! Understood if it is not your area, just didn't see a lot online and thought it might be a topic of interest to you. Cheers!

[@cameralabs]

@@brianmckeever5280 actually I do use geared heads, I have two Manfrotto models, but I normally on;y break them out for eclipses.

[@pedrol.5417]

Good video. This lens works great with the Sony A7RV.

[@cameralabs]

Yep, it's a great lens

[@rubenramirez8241]

Is this one better than the original Sony 24-70 GM i? I’m in the market for a 24-70 and I found the original Sony for the same price as the new Sigma mark ii.

[@cameralabs]

I'd go for the new Sigma over the old GM

[@Paulus449]

I really want to buy this lens but the only way I can afford it is to sell/ trade in my Sony 24mm f1.4GM lens to go towards the cost, I am conflicted as to this, am I making a mistake getting rid on that lens to buy this one?

[@cameralabs]

Depends if you want to trade two stops for a zoom range

[@robertcudlipp3426]

Unbeatable value for money.

[@cameralabs]

It's certainly very good value for the performance

[@vhs8204]

Does it support the focus breathing comp in sony

[@cameralabs]

No, only Sony lenses. I think I mentioned that in the video, did you watch it?

[@tboughten]

have you tried this on the fuji x mount?

[@cameralabs]

No because it's not on Fuji x mount.

[@Raymondey]

Great review!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@minorrhoads5318]

As meticulous and positive as always , cheers 👍

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@benjaminbrosdau1626]

Enjoying your reviews for over a decade now, thanks! Your math regarding the IBIS effectiveness is slightly off though. The difference between 1/10 and 1/60sec is not 4-4.5 stop but only 2.7 stops. It’s expected in a close up type shot I think.

[@goodbokeh]

As we know these 24-70 2.8 zooms (of all brands) are difficult to design and have chronic issues with sample variation. DPReview just passed on posting sample photos of their new Sigma 24-70 2.8 DG DN II because of the low IQ. I personally had IQ problems with my Sony 24-70 GM II and had to have it serviced. So my advice to Sigma 24-70 DG DN I owners that are happy with their lens is be careful about trading it in for this new model. BTW Gordon your lawn needs mowing. ;-)

[@cameralabs]

Ha ha! I've not mowed it for about 5 years!

[@goodbokeh]

@@cameralabs Well your grass looks very healthy, it must be all the rain ;-)

[@bigblindray]

Australian stores are charging the same price for this Sigma lens as the G Master ii. In some cases charging more. We are being robbed.

[@cameralabs]

Really? That's bizarre. if they're the same price, I'd go for the GM II

[@bigblindray]

@@cameralabs yeah man. Currently Aus stores are selling the Art ii between $2070 - 2500 Aus. The GM ii is going for around $2500-2600

[@TefikKaki]

Recently bought Sigma 24-70 should I return and buy this instead for $100 more?

[@cameralabs]

If you can, I'd say yes

[@RyanH0809]

Lovely review, as always!!

[@cameralabs]

Thankyou!

[@maZec31]

It must be Gordon! First your review and THAN maybe reviews from others :). Thank you Gordon for your reviews

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, you're very welcome!

[@williamedge9888]

Great review, thanks

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Oh My, you have had a busy few days.

[@cameralabs]

It has been mad!

[@parmanduke]

The availability of lenses like this for Sony is why ill never buy Canon ever again. One cant tell the difference between this lens and a GM lens.

[@hikertrashfilms]

Sony cripples Sigma linear motors on A1/9 bodies. For the SSM 85GM to have higher FPS than the linear motor Sigmas is pi$$ing down the backs of photographers while telling us, “It’s Raining!”. Make a 24mm F1.2 DN DN Art or GM and shut us up