Canon EOS R8 REVIEW vs R6 II: best value full frame camera?

My Canon EOS R8 review - is this the best value new full-frame camera?
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00:00 - Introduction and alternatives
04:07 - MPB - Buy, Sell or Trade!
05:07 - Canon EOS R8 design and controls
06:09 - Canon EOS R8 screen and viewfinder
06:29 - Canon EOS R8 ports, cards, battery and life
07:34 - Canon EOS R8 lens mount and lenses
08:46 - Canon EOS R8 image quality
10:01 - Canon EOS R8 autofocus and subject detection
11:33 - Canon EOS R8 burst shooting, buffer, RAW burst
13:58 - Canon EOS R8 photo features, focus bracketing
14:11 - Canon EOS R8 movie options
15:05 - Canon EOS R8 movie quality 1080 vs 4k
16:06 - Canon EOS R8 movie slow motion: 60 vs 120 vs 180
16:28 - Canon EOS R8 movie autofocus
18:07 - Canon EOS R8 vlogging quality
19:32 - Canon EOS R8 verdict and sample images
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[@cameralabs]

My Canon EOS R8 review - is this the best value new full-frame camera? Check MPB to buy and sell used gear: bit.ly/3ULU9yL Canon EOS R8 at B&H: bhpho.to/3ldsdqh // WEX UK: tidd.ly/40H8oI8 Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Cameralabs merchandise: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Gordon’s retro gear channel: kzbin.info Equipment used for producing my videos Sony A6400: prf.hn/l/pRO0wp5 Sony e 24mm f1.8: amzn.to/2TqWNzk Rode NT USB mic: amzn.to/3AdHcUp Rode Wireless Go II mic: amzn.to/3xkCvGo Rode Lavalier Go mic: amzn.to/3ygzzKY Godox UL150 light: amzn.to/2VpVbXE Godox QR-P70 softbox: amzn.to/3yQfGdF MacBook Pro 14in (16GB / 1TB): amzn.to/3PrKbPV 00:00 - Introduction and alternatives 04:07 - MPB - Buy, Sell or Trade! 05:07 - Canon EOS R8 design and controls 06:09 - Canon EOS R8 screen and viewfinder 06:29 - Canon EOS R8 ports, cards, battery and life 07:34 - Canon EOS R8 lens mount and lenses 08:46 - Canon EOS R8 image quality 10:01 - Canon EOS R8 autofocus and subject detection 11:33 - Canon EOS R8 burst shooting, buffer, RAW burst 13:58 - Canon EOS R8 photo features, focus bracketing 14:11 - Canon EOS R8 movie options 15:05 - Canon EOS R8 movie quality 1080 vs 4k 16:06 - Canon EOS R8 movie slow motion: 60 vs 120 vs 180 16:28 - Canon EOS R8 movie autofocus 18:07 - Canon EOS R8 vlogging quality 19:32 - Canon EOS R8 verdict and sample images Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases

[@pal54321]

Most peoples complaint was about the RP battery. Sometimes canon don't listen. I'd miss the wheel as well so I'll skip this and maybe there might be an R9 out by the end of the year. But great review as always Gordon.

[@ondrasheq21]

I don't think there is any "versus" here. I had an R6 II, I really liked it in almost every aspect, BUT: I need something smaller and lighter, otherwise laziness and convenience will eventually win and the camera will just collect dust. The R8 together with the 28/2.8 weighs about as much as the X-T5 without the lens, which is great. If someone takes photos for a living, their considerations and priorities will be completely different. Otherwise, nice video - as always :-)

[@mondujar279]

Hi Gordon, I have an R5 and R10. I rented the R8 because I wanted a full frame for traveling light. It was really very good, great low light and lovely image quality. AF is the best I have experienced, I would like Ibis but discovered I can hand hold stabilised lenses ok down to around 1/25 no problem. Good for me! I am going to buy it

[@MichaelSasser]

Amazingly in depth. Big upgrade fro the RP with the no crop 4k. I think think they will sell a lot of these cameras!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, and yes, I think it will sell well.

[@ElevenAce]

I really hate that the only reason we are upgrading to a new camera is because they don't have the 4k crop. I feel they could fix that with an update and Atleast keep it at 25p.....

[@cameralabs]

@@ElevenAce you mean from the RP? It's a very different sensor and processor, the one in the RP was very limited in what it could do by the hardware, not the firmware.

[@AdrianBacon]

This is great. My RP that I've been using as an EDC has been feeling a little long in the tooth, this looks like a great update, and I can keep the same batteries and grip extender, and nearly identical ergos except for the power/lock toggle on the top.

[@RC534]

I think the R8 and RF 16mm is indeed a great combo for vlogging. Light and wide enough to enable enhanced digital stabilisation for a really steady result. And unlike the R6 or R6 II you won't experience IBIS wobles that happen with that lens as Canon only lets you enable or disable all IS at once...

[@cameralabs]

Good point, I agree that digital IS can work better for vlogging than IBIS + digital.

[@shapes2000]

Thanks Gordon for another clear, concise and entertaining review. Always my first port of call for a new camera release.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@carlosbobbert862]

Great video straight to the point and simple but lots of knowledge taken in thank you 🙏

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@andrewbrooks2001]

I was looking at the R8 as my secondary camera. Thanks for the video.

[@paulmarks7185]

Always the best, most thorough no nonsense reviews.

[@cameralabs]

Thankyou!

[@dipankarchatterjee9416]

Good job Gordon with your review. Very well documented set of differences with R6 II.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@stingillusionfilms]

Thank you! I can't wait till it goes back into stock

[@Nextsession271]

I just bought the R8 in 2024. I have a T7i,2 EF lenses and 1 EFS Lense. This is an outstanding purchasefor me!

[@bozziovai]

As always. The best reviewer of cameras in KZbin. Been following you for almost a decade now. Thanks gordon As for the camera, so cute, so capable, so affor9

[@cameralabs]

Thanks for supporting me for so long! Glad you like my style.

[@josephmcgrath6814]

Enjoy all your videos. Keep up the good work. At my age of 82 and trying to get back in to a bit of serious for me photography I am developing more of an interest in jpg’s. You mentioned your book the other day and I bought it. I am looking forward to diving into both your book and some jpeg outputs. Ahhhh….I did have to breakout my “Coke bottle “ glasses though. Your headings are easy to read but lighter,smaller and thinner print in the body of your stories not so much. Well all the good info is still there and all that you say has great interest to me. I enjoy it when you and Duane get together as well. Thanks for all you do. Joe

[@cameralabs]

Thanks for buying my book! I didn't design the layout inside though, and I agree some of the text is a bit small! I hope you can still read it ok though and find some useful or interesting information - I'm a 99% JPEG shooter.

[@tonycain1497]

Gordon what are you using for denoise. I use dxo which I don't think allows jpegs

[@partygremlin2675]

Gordon, honestly, you're one of the most knowledgeable reviewers on YT, so I'm a little surprised that you said ''bigger pixels on R8 makes it better in low light'' when it is well known that it's just an urban legend but actually the whole size of the sensor accounts for light capture not an individual pixel

[@cameralabs]

On a per pixel level, a bigger pixel has the potential for greater light gathering plus higher dynamic range, BUT while higher res sensors with smaller pixels may be noisier per pixel, there's more of them, so the noise artefacts are smaller and often less obtrusive. Lots of factors to weigh up

[@davidaubuchon7309]

Great review! Thank you for posting this. Learned a lot and am in the market to upgrade from my Canon M50. Thanks!

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome! If you don't need IBIS, it's a great option.

[@FQ8]

Great stuff as always!

[@granthartley]

Awwesome review as usual! Thank you Gordon. 👍 Currently owning an RP, unfortunately, I'm still stumped on if I should spend the extra for the R6 mk ii haha. Aaah decisions decisions.

[@cameralabs]

Well, the R8 basically takes your RP and puts the R6 II sensor inside, BUT you have the same body features as before. if you wat a body upgrade with IBIS, dual cards, bigger battery, better EVF etc, then you need the R6 II.

[@benharveyphotography]

Another solid review, thank you Gordon. It seems like a very lightweight camera, probably good for use on a small gimbal. That said I remember using the RP when it first came out and the shock when I found myself in London with only one dying battery!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks Ben, and yes, you need to have a backup power solution if you're doing a lot of filming,. Thankfully a USB PD battery will do the trick.

[@craigcarlson4022]

Based on pre-release rumors, i wasn't expecting to have any interest in this R8, as I already have the original R6. But the much smaller body and weight, along with IS in the RF lenses I have and would use with it, make it a really intriguing option to switch to, for travel, general use, and with the focus composite, even macro work. When I need speed, I also need the reach of a crop sensor camera for birding, thus that's not so much of a downside for me. So, hmmm, call me intrigued.

[@mbrauwolf]

I was thinking the same thing - a handy backup camera. The one feature that actually draws me a bit is the pre-record 30fps RAW burst mode. That's a big deal with birds/wildlife. Often times you try to catch them taking off, but by the time you press the shutter, you're too late. This would give 15 shots and a half-second before you pressed the shutter. That can make a world of difference.

[@borispradel1037]

Canon the lenseless system, who may have guessed? Cheaper bodies but lenses costing three times as much. Canon needs to allow third party lenses to sustain its system. Especially the RF ASP-C line.

[@Stan8561]

Best camera review on KZbin ever, you're the real deal, I was considering the EOS R7 before your review, you didn't mention about it's live streaming capability, is the battery in the R8 not as good as the R? I was considering that yesterday now I'm leaning towards the R8

[@cameralabs]

I need to look more at live streaming from these

[@todanrg3]

Great content as always!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@brianludwig180]

Excellent video - thank you

[@AllinCrete]

Hi Gordon great review as always! Quick question, would the 30p Fine on the R7 be higher quality than the 30p on the R8? Probably you didn't get a chance to test this, just wondering as you've seen footage from both. Thanks!

[@cameralabs]

Good question. I think the r6 could oversample from more data, but not sure any of us would see a difference. Both look good.

[@AllinCrete]

@@cameralabs Thanks Gordon, I guess the R8 being a full frame vs the APSC makes the small difference probably. I am contemplating between the two. Perhaps if you get the chance it would be a good test in the future, as they're the same price! ☺️

[@zosozoso2]

Would be good to see. I have the R7 and the video is great, as well as the camera it self i sjust superb.

[@AS-oz6ep]

The third party lens debacle means I cannot recommend a Canon RF camera as a "budget" option.. or any option, at all, really. As a R6 shooter, I'm also appalled at Canon's obstinate refusal to release a firmware update to remove the 30 minute record limit, and personally have not been buying *any* Canon equipment, with an eye to potentially switching systems if Canon doesn't right this wrong.

[@Blitz_Shorts]

This is a review every objective person needs. Great review. No bias, no fanboy thing like the Fro. Giving the pros and cons just to a typical user who will need this camera for their use, or else others telling this is ultimate sports camera for somebody who shoots even professional. I really envy R8 video features as a Z5 owner, how much I wish I could at least have no crop 4k. In video R8 is obviously better than even Z6ii, but consider having a gimbal, and spare batteries. Would I get R8 if I was serious about video, probably yes, but R6 is also great option to consider, even being older. But in stills area, Z5 beats R8 especially after latest firmware and is 500$ less. IBIS , dual card slots, great EVF, battery life, 1/8000 mechanical shutter, ergonomics, 3rd party lenses, and I will argue in AF things, for portraits , events , weddings , street, landscape its AF is enough. For action and wildlife, yes it's slacking. But for majority of stills shooters , Z5 is a better camera than R8.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, and I'm glad you like my approach to making reviews. I wish there was a bigger demand for this style, as the more sensationalist videos always get more views and greater revenue as a result.

[@Viewtolove]

I can’t miss the IBIS. I’d choose the Panasonic S5 mark 2 with its lovely L2 colours and live LUT, and I’m dreaming of a 45ish MP version of that one… for the price of a S5 mark 2 X version, that would be a dream! With a nice affordable yet good quality Sigma lens.

[@craigcarlson4022]

Agree, plus, the focus shift option in the Pano could be handy for those times one really wants higher resolution!

[@DrWNoLs]

And Sigma lenses. Canon really misses out by not having Sigma. While Sony and Panasonic will continue to grow with them. That alone has me happy with the S5ii.

[@pahwraith]

On a camera this small, that can be mounted on a gimbal its nbd.

[@Viewtolove]

@@pahwraith No. Not 100 grams more to carry on Cabin Only luggage... if that's all you are allowed to carry.

[@pahwraith]

@@Viewtolove if youre getting paid to film then you can afford to check in luggage. Bill it to the client.

[@CZOV]

Thank you Gordon! Canon marketing dept sucks big time - they removed not only the joystick but also the wheel at the back for exp.comp, nerfed battery which was already bad on the R5/6, and... where is the full mech shutter? Another stil-born product from Canon like the R10. IBIS doesn't make a difference with IS lenses, but for vloggers it will suck. No particular target market, no particular idea why is his camera released except to have a cheaper FF camera. Not good for action (6fps), not good for landscape (no mechanical shutter), not good for vlogging (no IBIS), not good for video (crap battery), so what is it good for? Average joe who will use his phone camera instead. Stillborn. Jack of all trades master of none. R and RP users moved to R6. 6D Mark II did the same. Crop sensor DLSR users moved to R7, so who will buy R8? The odd walk-in who walks into a big store to buy 'a camera' having no idea what he is buying but having a budget of $1500 and the salesman pushes him into R8. But may as well push him into Sony or Nikon, Fuji, Panasonic or OM, depending which brand name sounds better to the client. Probably Sony. I think Panasonic and Fuji are celebrating the release of R8 and R10 like never before. OM will join in soon enough.

[@Skidoo22]

A great review, thank you!

[@cameralabs]

Cheers!

[@bensonmophakedi9159]

Detailed comparison. thanks

[@EpicsodeOne]

Thanks a million Gordon, I've been watching your videos sice your earliest ones. One question though, did you feel that the R8 falls short of Dynamic range, at least comparing it to my 5D IV or 5DsR?

[@cameralabs]

It's the R6 II sensor if that helps. I did some DR tests for that in my R6 II review and it works fine for my needs - I rarely push them hard in that regard though.

[@EpicsodeOne]

@@cameralabs Thanks a lot for the feedback.

[@jbennett3578]

Budget and experience (or lack thereof) made me order the R8. If I was a really good photographer, I'd probably want the extra features of the R6 Mark II, but I'm still learning, so the R8 makes sense experience-wise. Budget-wise, the $1000 I saved on the body will go a long way toward getting better lenses. Well, one better lens at least. :)

[@workingwiththelight3119]

For £1700 in UK with small battery, card on the bottom and expensive RF lenses, no thanks. Great review though as always Gordon! I am saving for Panasonic Lumix S5II X even Panasonic kit lens has better range 20-60mm.

[@mbr5742]

That f/1.8 RF primes and RF 15-30 or RF 100-400 are similar in price and optical quality to their Tamron/Sigma EF counterparts.

[@michalmuhammad4978]

Thanks Gordon. Nice review. Looking at this as an RP owner, it’s definitely an upgrade to the RP, not the R, even though Canon’s naming convention would suggest that it takes the place of the EOS R in the lineup. It’s a nice upgraded RP body. Same layout, batteries, looks like the same grip extender. I put a third party battery grip on my RP and I’ll be looking for someone to make one for the R8 since I’m sure Canon won’t. I’m excited to get an R8. It’s a great step forward from the RP at a good price point. But what will the R9 be? This is great, just not what I expected the R8 would be.

[@NoRegret08]

For $100 less, the R is a much better buy for stills.

[@hitfabryk]

@@NoRegret08 Why?

[@NoRegret08]

@@hitfabryk Because it has a normal battery with double the number of shots and has 6 more megapixels.

[@hitfabryk]

@@NoRegret08 Thanks, but the sensor? Isn't better? And the autofocus system much improved? It's easier to take with you that's a fact. But the sensor and autofocus I really don't know just asking.

[@NoRegret08]

@@hitfabryk Dynamic range is a little better on the R8. A little less noise on the R8. I have R7 as well and autofocus is better than the on the R. However , birds in flight - autofocus sucks on the R7. I returned the R10 for it's small battery and got the R7 and the battery life on the R8 is even worse than on R10. I read an article that the colors on the R magical. Viewfinder on the R also has higher resolution than on R8. If you also do the video, then get the R8 over the R. Just get a few batteries (extra cost) and you can only use these batteries on very few low end Canon cameras

[@sethmoyer]

FYI: The RP does not have a pop-up flash.

[@AS-oz6ep]

How do you change subjects without the joystick? Do you need to use the touchscreen, taking your eye away from the viewfinder?

[@AgnostosGnostos]

The Canon R8 is a replacement of 2009 canon RP. The price of canon RP will certainly drop lower than 900€ and it will be a bargain. The Canon R8 has a single card slot a maximum 1/4000th mecabincal shutter and only 1st curtain mechanical shutter. These are similar to the Sony a7C but the entry 2020 full frame Nikon Z5 at a similar or even lower price offers 1/8000th mechanical shutter double card slots, IBIS and much more. At the end of the day what counts is the quality of photos and Canon R8 is probably really good at that. With an entry price at around 1500€ The Canon R8 isn't cheap and with a lack of IBIS which is very important since the stabilization inside the lenses isn't common as before. Last the firmware of Canon mirrorless cameras doesn't allows the use of third party autofocus lenses contrary to Sony and Nikon mirrorless cameras. That is very very important since autofocus lenses by Sigma and Tamron are usually cheaper and with better optical performance.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

I thought about the original EOS R and the RP. The RP would have cost me more, I already had a stack of LP-E6 batteries of various brands, and I would probably have bought four extras for the RP. Eventually I decided not to, and I use mostly M43 gear, and an S1R with my TS-E lenses. That 90mm macro lens looks good, but it's not the MP-E 65 killer I anticipated. Teleconverters required for the higher magnifications? It's even more expens, unless you have the teleconverters, and more faffing around. AF and focus bracketting though.

[@bala1000mina]

Thank you so much Gordon for the detailed and informative review. As I know R8 doesn't have mechanical shutter system? is that right? thanks and God bless you!

[@cameralabs]

It has electronic first curtain which is electronic open and mechanical close

[@bala1000mina]

@@cameralabs Thank you for your kind answer! Good luck Gordon!

[@tokyorose1123]

I was really excited about the R8 as a replacement to my Eos R as a faster, second full frame body for wildlife. I could have lived with the reduction in mega pixels, the lack of ibis and the single card slot, but the LP-e17 battery is a deal breaker for me. It’s really too bad. A nice upgrade to the RP for shooters who are happy with that camera and looking to experience Canons new autofocus system and updated video options. But sadly, I think this one is going to be a pass for me. That aside, great review as always.

[@simonmaduxx6777]

Trust me it was not easy plopping down $2,500 plus for r62, but at least I know that I have all the bases covered for the next few years. I consider any camera without ibis unless it's very cheap to be a non-starter.

[@tokyorose1123]

@@simonmaduxx6777 I’ve got an R5 and just wanted a slightly refreshed R. But this just isn’t it. Think the R6 mkii will be the choice down the line.

[@simonmaduxx6777]

@@tokyorose1123 I would have went for R5 if I had the budget. That said, it's almost a sure bet that the R5 Mark II will come out sometime this year. Patience is a virtue it might end up replacing your current one and put that one on backup duty

[@cameralabs]

Yeah, the smaller battery is a shame, but they had to reduce the price, weight and differentiate from the R6 II. If you have a USB PD source though, you can keep it running, or carry a spare.

[@doros9.2]

Gordon, can you charge the battery inside the camera using a powerbank?

[@goldfries]

Given the body is like an RP and the battery is the same as RP, pretty sure the R8 is an RP replacement. Regardless, thanks for the review. Definitely one great camera here!

[@cameralabs]

You're right, it is more of an RP II, I meant to talk more about that, but my turnaround was limited.

[@goldfries]

@@cameralabs Keep up the good work, been a follower of Cameralabs even pre-KZbin days. I've already contacted Canon as well, preparing to purchase an EOS R8!

[@cameralabs]

@@goldfries thanks for your support!

[@mbr5742]

My guess is there will be no "true" R replacement. The lineup will have the R8 as a basic entry level full frame and the R6-II replacing R and R6.

[@goldfries]

@@mbr5742 yeah, there won't be. The world changed a lot, RP was launched at $999. R8 is now $1499 which I believe there's 2 reasons for it. 1. it's the latest gen Entry Level FF 2. EOS RP continues to be on the market. While R8 looks to be the RP replacement based on the physical nature of it, price and specs looks like it's kicking EOS R off the shelves.

[@Mrine2372]

I'm really conflicted between this and the Panasonic Lumix S5 II as my first camera. I was hoping to get gernally into photography, landscapes and street photography mainly, but also wanted the camera to serve video purposes for events or even streaming/video production. The lack of an IBIS seems a bit harsh, but a gimble could easily fix that

[@RamTengri]

Be warned the L and RF mount lenses are expensive! Which lead me to Sony E mount and third party lenses!

[@free_re_fells]

I love Canon but the S5 ii is a much better buy if you’re comparing the R8. That’s a lot of camera for your first buy though. I’d go with something you can grow in and really get comfortable with the system. Invest in glass, not bodies. You probably won’t use/need half the features on the S5 ii if you’re just starting out.

[@soormadhavstudiodm]

Very nice video canon R8 dip infermetion

[@Augnos]

Kicking myself I pulled the trigger on the R6ii 3 months ago. This was the RP upgrade I’ve been asking for, at $1k less

[@cameralabs]

True, but the R6 II is still an amazing camera and superior in many respects

[@brianmckeever5280]

Your reviews are my favorite!

[@cameralabs]

Thankyou! Your comments are my favourites!

[@canonlensesandcameras4425]

I wish more youtubers would stop praising this camera because they do not wish to upset canon. The rolling shutter is a big deal and I do not believe the electronic first curtain mode will eliminate rolling shutter completely 6 FPS is useless for fast action. In the world of fast action or building photography rolling shutter is a big deal. No mechanical shutter is some thing we need and canon has removed it.

[@crashryanphoto]

This is definitely on my short list when I finally upgrade from my existing Canon 5D2 and Canon M50. If only it had IBIS ... nuts!

[@cameralabs]

Yeah, they want you to buy the R6 or the R7

[@03chrisv]

I'm still using my 10 year old T5i Rebel (700D), it's in excellent condition and has served me well, but I might need to upgrade. I'm eyeing the R8 as my replacement.

[@ghbdtnbytn]

Can you power the camera from powerbank throught usb-c port and the battery inside while shooting photo/video? Great review for great camera

[@cameralabs]

I literally talk about this in the video

[@stoatsngroatsuk5012]

Thanks Gordon, I look out for yo when. Pop along the coast! With the R8s ability to provide a crop of 1.6x this would have the effect of increasing the EF100-400 to max at 640mm I think, but what is the resolution like? It would be a great all-round camera and decent for birds in flight if the crop image resolution is still good, no? I have a 6d, and I’m in the early stages of looking to upgrade - the R6 mk2 would,be my desire, but I have pennies to sane for a year or 2 first - this might swing me towards the R8 if the detail and sharpness were good enough. Thanks for the reviews - I’ve subbed! 🙏😀

[@cameralabs]

If you intend to crop for photo, you will lose a lot of resolution, so it's best to by a crop camera instead. the R7 and 100-400 are a great combo for wildlife. Cropping for video is ok through as there's still enough res for 4k.

[@stoatsngroatsuk5012]

@@cameralabs inters, thanks for this… I’ll keep looking at my options and keep using the 6d to improve 😀🙏🙏

[@workingwiththelight3119]

Does R8 shoot vertical video? Does it have so called product showcase AF setting? Does the screen black out when you connect monitor via HDMI?

[@rockutron9000]

It might be a good travel camera, since its smaller and packs enough features.

[@Gremlack13]

I have an rp that I quite enjoy. Been debating upgrading to perhaps the r5 or r6ii, finances pending. though the r8 may fit my budget better and skill set. I’m also torn between waiting to see if a r5ii comes out in a few months. Me and my wallet are torn.

[@jarednel]

Great video. How do you reckon the R8 would compare to the 77D for video recording? Similarities? Differences? Important features added or missing? 🧐👍

[@cameralabs]

You'd have to look up the 77D as it's been ages since I used it. You're best comparing the specs on Canon's web pages for both models - the R8 will have better video quality, AF and more features.

[@jarednel]

@@cameralabs Thanks. Do you know if the R8 has a clean HDMI out for external recording or streaming?

[@cameralabs]

@@jarednel I think it does

[@tintin69rr]

Nice one I was solely looking for a cropped camera but after not been happy with the r7 I’ve sold that to mpb and I was now thinking px the r6 in towards a r6mk2 untill canon release a better crop camera pref with a stacked sensor but then after looking into the r8 I’m tempted to keep the r6 and get the r8 and pair that up with a rf 800f11 for birds I had that lens before but wasn’t happy with the small af area on the r6 I’ve still got the rf100-500 and the rf 1.4 x so could use that for now and see how that goes and also the r8 at least has better shutter readout speed than the shockingly slow r7 although no5 perfect still a good improvement also the r8 battery is that the same as the m 50 battery as still have one a those knocking about with a few batteries lol 😂

[@cameralabs]

The R8 gives you the R6ii sensor in a less featured body. I like it

[@martialkacou]

What a time to upload a video ahah. Nice review as always !

[@cameralabs]

I published as soon as Canon allowed!

[@cy0722]

I was thinking to buy the RP before the R8 was released, but after watching I've changed my mind hence the newer parts and the price to performance on the R8 compared to the RP

[@cameralabs]

Yes, the R8 is a step up in many respects, but do keep an eye on used RP prices as there are bargains to be had.

[@robertschwarz8702]

@@cameralabs for us Canadians it seems like $1000 difference for better video, between the RP and R8. for myself I'm happy with my R7 for critters, and a used RP I got for FF richness, bokeh and wide angle.

[@ElevenAce]

Yes don't get the RP especially if you want to do 4k video. They really did us wrong with the RP 4k.

[@xray111xxx]

It is funny you mention the 6D. Not sure these are really an upgrade for me. I have the 6D and it is a great camera ready for the EF lens family. I noticed the R lens you showed there was a plastic mount. I prefer a metal mount. I am looking at a used Nikon D3s. It is less than a 3rd the price of these cameras. I am sure plenty of folks will find the R cameras the one for them. For me? Nope. I like the legacy. My newest camera is a Sony a6400. Doubt if I go any newer. I live for real, and not in a lab. Love your reviews in any case. So fun to watch how you see the new tech. I love your old tech videos too. Thanks Gordon. Cheers.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! As you may know, I actually use an A6400 for all my filming.

[@OozyImp]

Was considering upgrading from my R to this but that different smaller battery might be a deal breaker for me!

[@Convergence33]

Same for me...

[@cameralabs]

You could carry a spare or use a USB PD source to top up / power?

[@suburbia2050]

You dont carry spares?!

[@mbr5742]

@@cameralabs But why? Canon has the LP-E6 well established. And my guess is - there will be not full featured BG for the R8 either. They should have re-used the R body and BG-E22.

[@Hashterix]

If a battery grip comes out for this then I might be sold on it. The battery flap does look like it's removable for that purpose so I'm sure we might see one in the coming months.

[@enricportraits]

Nice upgrade of the RP, which is what I use, in my case I like the battery, since it is light for travel and for video I also use "dummy", what I don't like is the card below and the starting price something high...thank you!

[@simonmaduxx6777]

Great work is always Gordon. At first this camera on paper made no sense. It makes much more sense now, it's essentially both a replacement for the R and RP and then those triple duty as a step up and image quality from crop or rebel. Ibis was important enough for me to hold out for the r62. The r62 is much more of a replacement for a 5D. This is definitely not this camera can definitely be very situational and it's usage limits but I'm sure it is a lot of ways that this can be used very effectively. The lens that's on it it's going to be super critical especially for IS. Thanks again now going to check out your other review. Cheers.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@ArcanePath360]

I have found after shooting lots of video that the CLOG3 is much worse than using HDRPQ. You really notice it in the blacks. CLOG3 is way too noisy. I really don't know why people use it. The cinema gamut is also overkill for such a noisy image. I'd sooner have reduced colour depth and clean shadows. Resolve is very good at producing nice colours from even 8 bit footage anyway.

[@TylerHealy-u6r]

Does the r8 have a central pin on the shoe and does it have a 1/250 shutter sync speed? Or is the sync speed lower like the rp? Thanks for the video!

[@cameralabs]

good question - I don't recall about the pin, so will check

[@bigtredunzo]

Excellent review! I've been looking at the Sony a7c for my daughter so she can Vlog her construction business. Now this Canon R8 comes out, so I'm glad I didn't get the Sony...yet. I have shot Canon for 45 years but know absolutely nothing about video, and my daughter knows nothing about cameras. I have the R and all RF L glass. I'm looking for other people's opinions here...Will the R8 be better than the Sony a7c for vlogging? I appreciate any input that you or your readers can offer. Thanks!

[@gregorypecaut7164]

Don't forget, Sony is about to release the 7cii.

[@ghalibsworld]

Canon R8 in full frame, Canon R10 or Canon R50 in APS-C has the full potential to be a number 1 seller in their own category but will never reach that destination due to the stubborn behaviour of Canon. At least four or five lenses could improve the situation - like SIGMA 16mm & 30mm F1.4 in RF-S, Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 IS in RF, Sigma 150-600mm, RFS-22m F2, a better kit lens for R50 (like EF-M 15-45 F3.5-6.3). I am a user of R10 and I like it. I would love it if Canon gave C-log 3 in it and brought an overall zoom like EFS 17-55mm F2.8.

[@TZWG]

R8推出了!!!!

[@jon112media]

Wow! What a new camera 📸 they did a good job with what features are brought over from the r6ii considering the price point. Thanks for the review Gordon!

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@TubaSolotheHiker]

Yeah buddy!!

[@eichnermarc]

Would have loved to see just the digital IS alone!

[@Psyclonus7]

My brother got the R8 to use with a T-Ring on his telescope. Works perfectly!

[@cameralabs]

Nice! Look back long ago on my channel and you'll find a video about using an old Canon 40D on my own telescope!

[@Skux720]

Small battery aside this is really impressive, you're essentially getting an R6 II with its 40fps and uncropped 4k60 for $1500.

[@Yupthereitism]

Rolling shutter kills the 40 fps

[@cameralabs]

exactly

[@robertschwarz8702]

@@Yupthereitism same problem the R7 has shooting birds in flight, the trees start to bend...ha

[@oddy1526]

Thank you for yet another great review, just one question: does it offer the focus breathing correction as R6II does?

[@cameralabs]

Good question. I think so, but I'm not 100%

[@Leptospirosi]

2:49 the RP does not have a pop up flash. The camera really is overpriced for what it is: the price of the original RP at launch would have been fine "if" the EF adapter was included, but at 1600$/£/€ I'd rather get an S5II, a Z5 or a 7c, even paying a bit more: I'd get the money back while buying lenses later. Not that the R6II sensor could be seen as a great one too, compared to the others, so the price hike is not justifiable. At least the RP colours are more attractive, and no Ibis defies most of the advantages in video and low light anyway

[@cameralabs]

Good point, the adapter does add to the cost and bring it closer to bodies with more lens choices.

[@mbr5742]

No Canon full frame has a Pop up Flash. Neither DSLR nor DSLM

[@cameralabs]

@@mbr5742 yep, I'm not sure why I said that about the RP, it was a slip of the tongue, sorry!

[@bolumstar]

Great Review! A new sub here

[@cameralabs]

Thanks1

[@bolumstar]

@@cameralabs as a KZbin content creator already using Canon M50 Mark ii, I am thinking of upgrading to a camera with faster Auto focus. I have the F2.0 2mm pancake lens but upgrading to R8 will mean to start afresh with lenses. Wondering if I can use this opportunity to try other brands too. I don't like Sony color science and I don't have time for color grading. I want video and pictures I can post instantly from camera and Canon is good for that so far. M50 Mark ii is still doing an okay job on 1080p but I have to think about the future too

[@cameralabs]

@@bolumstar have you considered the Lumix S5 II? If you prefer Canon though, the R8 is really good if you don't need IBIS.

[@HumanMVMNT]

What do you guys think about using an EFM-adapter to the R8 combining the R8 with the Sigma 16mm f/1.4? Will that work well or is it just a bad idea?

[@cameralabs]

I didn't know there was an EFM to RF adapter available. Plus the Sigma is only designed for smaller APSC sensors, so you'd be in a crop mode on the R8.

[@akarshkc9329]

Is there any disadvantage of not having mechanical shutter

[@dollroom]

Sheesh, this really is very confusing haha! (although your video has been a great help, thank you!) What would you say would be the better camera for an artist photographing their own work, indoors, in good (ish) natural light? The R7 or the full frame R8?

[@cameralabs]

It is confusing! I think I need to make a dedicated comparison. As you know it's about weighing up body features against sensor size, but in good light the quality will be similar.

[@brentpolk8331]

Wow. I've been watching your videos since the Canon T3.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks for your commitment!

[@RestGeneration]

Canon R7 or R8? Which is best for indoor photo & Video shooting?

[@rayyyyljh]

im coming from 6D and looking to get either R8 or R6 mk ii, mainly shoot long exposure and landscape, which would you recommend?

[@cameralabs]

Probably R8

[@ScottoGrotto]

Not sure if this has been asked yet :) What is the dust & moisture protection on the R8? And why are images in video not affected by rolling shutter? Thanks, great video Gordon!

[@cameralabs]

What do you mean by images in video? Do you mean extracting photos from video?

[@ScottoGrotto]

@@cameralabs hi, both video and electronic shutter for stills both operate in the same way via electronic shutter, So just wondering why electronic shutter for still shots is subject to the rolling shutter distortion while the video images appear to not be distorting? Kind of reminds me of smearing images on lcd tvs some years back? Is it the resolution or frame rate that the digic processing can’t quite handle? Or longer shutter speeds? Thanks 🙏 Just curious why the “rolling shutter” effect happens?

[@cameralabs]

@@ScottoGrotto the rolling shutter effect is due to the readout speed of the sensor, line by line, so by the time it gets to the bottom, the subject or composition may have moved. It affects video and electronic stills but due to the way the video is scaled or oversampled from the full sensor, the effect may be less than for stills.

[@somasekhar957]

Excellent review . I am confused between Canon R8 and Sony a7iii. 🙆

[@cameralabs]

Both good choices, depends a lot on screen flip and lenses you like.

[@jamesb9643]

I currently have the EOS RP and was thinking of getting the R8. I am in no way a professional I am an average joe taking photos at Disneyland and so on. Would it be an upgrade in your opinion? And Would you upgrade from the RP? TIA

[@cameralabs]

Yes, it's faster and the video and AF is way better. But you won't be getting IBIS, dual card slots etc. The body is much the,same.

[@user-dc6vi4hg1k]

Does anyone know if g7x series is going to release a new model in the future？

[@glycerine3065]

As a beginner/enthousiast who moved from DSLR (EOS T3i) to Mirrorless (EOS R10) last year, I was disappointed to see Canon release a full frame sensor camera in the same price range. I thought I just missed out! But after viewing this video, I see that I'm better off with the specs and features of my R10, even with a cropped sensor. Thank you for the videos, Gordon! Always well done and appreciated!

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@mbr5742]

Canon had similar priced APS-C and FF in the DSLR range as well. 7D2/80/90D and 6D/6D2

[@glycerine3065]

@@mbr5742 I tried to find a 90D, but eventually opted to R10.

[@Nathan.1882]

APS-C and full frame caters to 2 different photographers though. the former being much better for telephoto usage.. totally depends on what stuff you prefer to shoot here. =)

[@donk8292]

Gordon, I hope you or someone has the answer to this question... I found the Limit subject to detect feature to be interesting. The only mention I could find of it in R6 II reviews was that it is for video. Is that true...video only, or does it work the same way for stills? Would be a major feature for any bird (or wildlife) shooter, where the focus goes completely off when the bird goes out of frame.

[@cameralabs]

Good point. Yes, it is ONLY for video on the R6 II and R8. What you're looking for in stills is some kind of focus lock, normally on a button on higher end lenses.

[@donk8292]

@@cameralabs Thanks Gordon. Too bad. Even the RF 100-500 does not have a focus lock button, although you can assign custom lock to a button on the camera. It would be nice if Canon would find a way to add a focus limiter option top the menu, similar to Olympus (now OM System) where you can dial in a min and max distance. It works great for BIF to drastically reduce the focus racking that is far too common when shooting BIF.

[@cameralabs]

@@donk8292 you're absolutely right, I'd forgotten the 100-500 doesn't have the button - it really should do.

[@digitaldevigner4080]

Great review as always. Something I noticed from all the early release reviewers however is not talking about over heating. With a smaller body I am curious to know how long it can sustain 4K at either 25/24/30 or 50/60. As a R6 user I am planning on upgrading to the R6 mk2. Would not go this route but I could definitely see the R8 being a great b camera for R6 mk2 users. Perfect back camera for photos or 4K video. Perfect compliment for a two camera shoot. Considering less expensive as well and if one is using this on a 2 camera shoot it’s likely going to be on a tripod anyway. I was really surprised to hear the video is pretty much identical to the R6 mk2. Even with the new false color which is awesome. So far it only seems to be lacking IBIS, unlimited record time, dual card slots, battery life and external raw for video. None of those a major deal breaker for a backup camera. I am a bit concerned with the record limit and over heating however if it would be a tripod locked down camera. Does it still have a clean HDMI out for external recording in video formats?

[@cameralabs]

Did you watch my whole video? I did test for recording times, battery life and overheating! On battery power, I only managed about 65mins before the battery ran out, but under USB power, I managed a full 2hr clip of 4k 25p without overheating.

[@digitaldevigner4080]

@@cameralabs I apologize I must have missed that part. I heard the 65 minute battery record time and then must have blanked out right after that. Thank you for the reviews and the response. It is appreciated.

[@kwangc6720]

Canon has seriously lost their direction. I'm still a Canon user but I have already, at the same time, moved to the Fujifilm system. I travel light now but I have access to some really awesome lenses. Look at all the "weird" lenses Canon has been producing for their APS-C sensor cameras, dating back to the M-series. The maximum aperture ends at f/6.3 maximum zoom. I have always been against their APS-C sensor cameras since the days of the 60D or 70D. There aren't any more great APS-C lenses since the EF-S 10-22mm and 17-55mm f/2.8. Lo and behold, they have now produced a ridiculous 24-50mm with a really smallish aperture range of f4.5-6.3. Seriously, Canon? Who are you targeting this lens at? The focal length range is limited, and the aperture is (again!!!) restrictive. We are talking about a full-frame R8 here! This is not some APS-C camera. I suppose Canon is trying valiantly to compete with Fujifilm and Olympus by slashing off their lenses' focal lengths and aperture range. But the attempt has failed very badly. Sony has an excellent 20-70mm f/4 lens. What has Canon produced? Just some dumbed down rehash general kit lenses. You're not gonna attract new photographers if you keep doing that, Canon. Many more will cross over to Fujifilm or Sony.

[@suburbia2050]

Because its meant to be a small and light travel camera, a light travel lens just provides options, plenty of heavy RF glass or even cheaper primes if you want fast aperture and lightweight

[@kwangc6720]

I don’t think Canon specifically aimed the lens for travel. It feels like another of their desperate attempt to compete with the rising popularity of competitors like Fujifilm and Olympus. Then hopefully, those new to photography might think erroneously that wow, Canon also has small lenses. But they don’t realise the disadvantages they have to bear. I don’t see how a lens that starts with a small aperture of f4.5 and a reach of only 50mm could be useful for travel. I wouldn’t want to be caught shooting at only 50mm but my max aperture is already at f6.3! 😅🫣 Precisely this is why many have switched to Fujifilm. For travel, I’m definitely using my Fujifilm, not an R8 with this weird 24-50. Canon really needs to rethink their marketing strategy. Leave the full frame market for serious enthusiasts and pros. They don’t mind carrying bigger and heavier lenses. Stop propagating the f/6.3 design and marketing strategy! At the same time, concentrate a lot more on the smaller sensor cameras and design much better APS-C lenses. The current batch of new lenses that Canon has is dismally limited and just not attractive.

[@suburbia2050]

@@kwangc6720 well they seemed desperate to keep the size and weight low and that can only mean they consider that a USP. A lightweight and small FF combined with a lightweight and small prime lens has a perfectly valid usecase. APS-C lenses are probably a separate discussion but the RF lens mount was designed around making FF lenses more compact and simpler. Maybe they want to concentrate on fleshing that out first.

[@johnsonguite]

Does it overheat at 4K 30 fps in more than an hour of recording?

[@norbertalleaume]

It’s the rp mark ii - all is good except for the tiny little battery 😅

[@robertschwarz8702]

The batteries are cheap and small to carry, for street or tourist photography, to have a couple extra in the pocket is no big deal.

[@dpestlin1]

Thanks Gordon! Does the R8 shoot video in 8 bit or 10 bit? How are the colors compared to other Canon cameras?

[@andreasbuder4417]

10-bit when in C-Log3, 8-bit when in regular picture styles.

[@dpestlin1]

@@andreasbuder4417 Thanks! Thanks! How are the colors on this camera for video? Are they the same as the Canon R5 out of camera?

[@andreasbuder4417]

@@dpestlin1 Ah you mean out of camera. Well yeah, just look for a comparison between the R5 and R6 II. I would not hesitate at all mixing footage, the color science is extremely consistent.

[@dpestlin1]

@@andreasbuder4417 I see. So you are saying the r8 has the same color science as the R6 II?

[@andreasbuder4417]

@@dpestlin1 Exactly.

[@asianavideography513]

Hi Gordon. Does the autofocus work in 120 fps?

[@cameralabs]

I think it does but I'm not 100% sure.

[@murphyandmurphybrand]

Can anyone help. Trying to decide between r6 or r8. Roughly a similar price in the UK when you add the grip to the r8.

[@NoSuRReNDeR001]

I hope that subject detect is in the new r5 firmware

[@cameralabs]

Me too

[@DigitalSamTV]

Hey Gordon. What's the smalles canon mirror less to have image stabilization in body?

[@cameralabs]

I think it's the R5 and R6, so not that small!

[@DigitalSamTV]

@@cameralabs ok cheers. I ditched canon years ago when they lost the game to Sony due to crap video features for a few years .... Now canon is back I might buy again as still have a bunch of L lenses

[@skyrunr]

Great and fair review. The lack of a joystick and ibis in 2023 is a deal breaker (cripple hammer.) If you're going to have one card, make it a CFE-B! Why aren't consumer cameras offering dual micro-SD-II slots?! I've built several RF kits in carts over the past two years, and the sticker shock is real. I'm done with adapting too. It ruins the main reason I went mirrorless; weight and portability. I went with an A7C because I can mount great, compact, affordable Tamron f2.8 zoom lenses to it. If Sony ever makes their bricks more comfortable to hold, everyone else will be in real trouble. The best value is a used Z6 from MPB for $950 paired with the 24-70F4S for under $400 as well. If you're into birding or shoot sports you still have to PAY to play, deal with lower hit rates, or stick with the DSLR route.

[@paulyeung6608]

dpreview noticed significant loss in image quality in the m6 mark ii when using digital IS and even worse losses in image quality in enhanced IS. Does the R8 see any losses in image quality when digital IS or enhanced digital IS is enabled?

[@cameralabs]

All cameras suffer when you apply any kind of digital IS, as it crops the image and scales it back up again.

[@lsamoa]

I reckon if I didn't already have the RP I'd get this one instead, but there isn't really enough appealling upgrades for me to replace it. I'll stick with the RP, it's still a really neat little camera. Thanks for a great review!

[@mostlymessingabout]

4K60 1080p180 2 hours record limit... 1/16000 shutter instead of 1/4000... worth it i reckon

[@Ralferator]

@@mostlymessingabout depends on what you use it for. Who doesn't need 4K can be perfectly happy with the RP

[@lsamoa]

@@Ralferator This. 4K files are unnecessarily big, and I can't think of any situation where I'd ever need 1/16000 shutter speed tbh. Both overkills for me. Upgrades that would make it worth switching would be in-camera colour correction calibration, proper multiple exposure options, in-camera panoramas, different formats for video beyond 16:9... This kind of things. But doesn't look like the R8 has any of these, and they're more things that could be added with firmware updates if Canon was so inclined. So off I am into the sunset with my RP haha.

[@Ralferator]

@@lsamoa I agree. I am fine with 1080 for video and don't need the fast shutter speed. Since we have cats, the animal Autofocus would be nice for us, but i will be happy with the RP for some years