Cammus GT1 Direct Drive 15nm Base & Wheel Review

Another new brand enter the sim racing direct drive market with the Cammus GT1 15nm base and GT1 steering wheel.
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[@norafirestorm]

Crazy how another KZbin reviewer was near enough blown away with the performance of this wheel base and compared it to the likes of Simucube and high end Fanatec stuff! No idea what to think! 😂

[@JoseFcoBN]

😄😄😄...That he is a KZbinr and that he recently started trying things, calling Fanatec high-end is a bad example, DD1 without flex in QR? KZbin is not the best for this...

[@wow35master]

i would say just trust karl i don’t always see eye to eye with karl but his always honest and fair

[@KarlGosling]

The other reviews I've seen are far from accurate IMO mate, looks like small channels (not that mine is massive) being incentivised to produce a positive review.

[@KarlGosling]

DD1 and DD2 are high end wheel bases, the original QR does have a very small amount of play if you apply enough force or do not do it up correctly.

[@dimsoneill]

Do I sniff the pong of a sponsorship deal for this other YTer?

[@roller12coaster]

Those type of quick releases are probably just Ali Express quick releases. I used one in my real car made by D1 Spec. Same system, but zero play in that one. Awesome video as always, super detailed and nice to listen to. I just got my ART cockpit today after watching your video's, and I'm planning to buy Fanatec gear soon. I noticed you used V3 pedals, and I'm looking at the inverted set, which looks very nice to me. Would you by any chance be able to review those, and give your opinion on wether or not the extra money if worth it for the inverted set. If not, no worries! Have a good one.

[@KarlGosling]

Yeah could well be then mate! The inverted V3's are identical to the normal V3's except they mount inverted so take a look at my review those if you're interested mate.

[@roller12coaster]

@@KarlGosling thank you, I'll have a look. I'll be sure to use your link when ordering!

[@dimsoneill]

"TOMY my first steering wheel button colours" - had a chuckle at that one. Nice one Bruvva!

[@jimski5358]

I bought this wheelbase last Friday now I need a rig

[@frankzappa2274]

Hi Carl would love to see a revisit this Cammus 15nm. I hear the software is much better now and it feels great right out of the box. Alot more sliders now as well.

[@KarlGosling]

The one I was sent went up in smoke so no chance of that I'm afraid! lol

[@frankzappa2274]

@@KarlGosling Dang I really liked that base but immediately sent it back and upgraded to a VRS Direct force pro (still waiting for it) haha reviews like this kept me thinking it is just a matter of time before it dies :/. Honest Reviews are important.

[@michaelboyce3227]

08:43 we as society need to get away from this type of comment, where we associate Chinese built products as inferior or of poor quality. I hear it all to often, I was guilty of it for a long time as well, and it's certainly not just here I've heard it. Many, if not majority, of the high-end products we use are also Chinese made, so clearly it's not because it's Chinese made that it's of lower quality, however, it's the reason you mention many times in your video and that is it's cost. I'm not affiliated with the company so can't say for absolute certain but it's not hard to imagine part of how they're able to sell things so cheaply is allowing parts to pass that high-end brands would have to throw away that are still perfectly useable but are definitely not perfect. Parts as mentioned where the threads aren't ALL perfect would be a costly item to throw away, which is something we as consumers pay for when we buy high-end products, as I'm sure you can imagine happens on every manufacturer floor, and someone has to pay for it. Anyways, back to my original point, I can appreciate as a reviewer pointing things like this out, it's inaccurate to attribute a cheaply made component of a product to it's Chinese manufacturing, it's a cheaply made component due exclusively to the fact it's cheaply made to allow savings to be passed to I'm consumer and sell at a very cheap price. hopefully this message is seen not just by you Karl, but all of us who say this in error. p.s. this shouldn't matter but I'm neither associated with the company nor Chinese.

[@Hatredy11]

Fanatec is also made in China. It's only developed in Germany.

[@nofloco3175]

Yeah when you get a machined piece of metal and a metal quick release standard vs when you get a fanatec plastic quick release that is a starter issue with every wheel and requires a $100 replacement.

[@DouglasThompson]

Perhaps the type of racing you did/do with the base is why you feel that way. I know you do rally sometimes but I do it all the time and I have it feeling very similar to my real cars. I disagree with some of what you said but we all have our preferences and that's why we need more than one option, I suppose! ;)

[@KarlGosling]

Yeah we all like our wheels to feel how we like our wheels to feel... but sadly there's no disputing the cheap quality (hence the price) or the software being partially in Chinese! lol

[@DouglasThompson]

@@KarlGosling They will improve as they are new to the SimRacing market, happy you took the time to show it off. :)

[@Roger_Diz]

Great review, my friend... I got flamed by some commenting on another reviewer about hating those cheap looking colored buttons

[@KarlGosling]

They are what they are, we can't ignore them! lol

[@michaelcarrier103]

So stop hating until you try it?? 🤷🏽

[@Roger_Diz]

@@michaelcarrier103 I don't know how trying it is going to change my opinion that it looks like it was designed by hasbro. 😝

[@Roger_Diz]

@@michaelcarrier103 appearance is subjective. If you like the way it looks, I'm happy for you. Function is more important than form anyway but when faced with two similar things for a close price, aesthetics matter to me.

[@zb8725]

Interesting thoughts. Not sure if I’d be referring to Fanatec as high end. Having owned their DD 8nm with the horrible plastic QR lite I cannot help but feel disappointed.

[@KarlGosling]

You bought a low end Fanatec product, it's literally their entry level DD base, wheel and QR.

[@tobytoxd]

Thank you very much!!

[@Botmeister37]

That quick release has too much flex *laughs in Simucube2. But the price is very nice though so as you state Karl, you get what you pay for.

[@rossharper1983]

Hello Karl. Any VR content on the horizon? It's the original reason I subbed, now I'm just here for the ride

[@KarlGosling]

lol Not unless a new interesting HMD comes out (wireless preferably), I get offers to review head straps, controller grips, stuff like that all the time but I honestly don't think people care (from my viewing statistics and looking at other VR channels) these days, there was a big spike in interest when the Q2 launched and thats faded away now.

[@roromkl3278]

Great video! Please, could you share your Cammus settings (power, effects ratio, damper, friction, inertia and idle spring)?? Thx. Michael

[@horsefly1020]

In another 5yrs we might be able to buy sim gear at walmart as fast as it's growing.

[@KarlGosling]

Hey you never know!

[@Space-O-2001]

Wow I saw those buttons and thought of the toy I had growing up (Simon Says). I wonder how much can be finessed through software, I mean if they nail the feel I don't care about the other items so much but a lack of decent software support is something that concerns me (not saying there is but as an unknown it could be abandon hardware in 6 months

[@KarlGosling]

Exactly mate it could so a big risk.

[@horsefly1020]

I had a simon says when I was a kid LoL

[@victormuller4462]

Great video! Are the ports on Cammus wheel compatible with the Fanatec shifter, pedals, and handbrakes?

[@KarlGosling]

No mate.

[@abuelb]

this cammus package is actually has better built quality than fanatec csl DD. That csl dd gt pro wheel looks like a toy compared to the cammus leather wheel. The csl dd shaft is weak and flawed with design. It can easily bend and pulled out. Plastic quick release compared to NGR type quick release of cammus at similar price, csl dd motor gets hot to the touch you can fry an egg on top.

[@richysracing9524]

Been using a tsxw for 5 year's, i want a decent direct drive wheel, but don't want to pay over a thousand, What would you recommend, i was thinking a r9 but idk

[@KarlGosling]

Fanatec CSL DD.

[@richysracing9524]

@@KarlGosling you reckon, im tempted with the m12, i don't want to upgrade again fir a while so yh, idk

[@McH3NKIE]

Great review. Tnxs

[@Biroo]

Seems like a meh product. Why would you go for this vs Fanatec or Monza at the same price range

[@dylanmosley3030]

I’ve watched only a small handful of reviews- each have a fairly different perspective. Logitech/Thrustmaster seem to be later and later to the party.

[@tinzalix8624]

I don’t think Logitech has any plans to make anything other than an entry gear driven wheel, thrustmaster on the other hand, I agree is way behind the curve

[@dylanmosley3030]

@@tinzalix8624 you may be right.

[@EazyDuz18]

Thrustmaster is releasing a DD wheel soon. But in terms of midlevel nothing beats the T300RS GT

[@wegpiraatjochem]

@@EazyDuz18 t300rs is not really mid level to be honest.

[@wegpiraatjochem]

The ts pc racer is more mid level

[@catnipherb]

Ten amps, 360 watts, 36 volts. I don't understand electricity but 10 amps is a lot! The maximum limit electricity comes out of your socket is 13 amps. You do not ever want to get close to 13 amps or else you'll overload! I'm not sure if the Cammus is energy efficient. How much electricity does the Moza R16 and the Fanatec DD1 use compared to that Cammus?

[@anjo2]

European sockets are rated for 250V 16A, the power supply is only 110~240V 3.5A (i would assume that it is the same as Simagic Alpha, both have 15Nm and 36V 10A PSU)

[@lethargic2221]

its not that good but still would you prefer it to a driven belt wheel? say cswv2.5 or tspc?

[@KarlGosling]

Not for the price shipped to the UK which I'm told is another $450!

[@TheRatlord74]

For the price it looks pretty decent but like you said support could be a major issue. With the fanatec for instance if you get an issue then the likelihood is you could probably find a KZbin video that solves your issue in a few moments. But with something like this you would be unlikely to find any videos like that.

[@KarlGosling]

Apparently UK shipping is $440 so it's no longer even cheap! lol

[@TheRatlord74]

@@KarlGosling lol.

[@bullit199]

How many games did you try it with? ACC and AC seem to do great. To me this seems like a mostly negative review. Think you should compare this to the CSL DD with boost kit. Which would you buy and why? Also, no mention of the fact you’re not forced into a steering wheel ecosystem.

[@KarlGosling]

It is a mostly negative review as it's not very good, both the hardware and software are poor! lol The CSL DD would be my choice as I said in the video, a much more refined experience but with a less power.

[@bullit199]

@@KarlGosling You are in the minority on your review. Also, I've had this base and wheel for over 1 year and its a good DD wheel for its price point. Does it require some tinkering in certain games, yes. Is it poor compared to CSL DD, no.

[@EdEMitchell]

$440 shipping to the UK make this far more expensive than the base price!

[@KarlGosling]

Wow!! That much?! In which case no, don't buy it! lol

[@jimski5358]

@@KarlGosling Shipping to uk is 70 quid

[@EdEMitchell]

@@jimski5358 still quotes me $440 shipping to UK for base and wheel using Karl's link. Where are you seeing £70 shipping?

[@jimski5358]

@@EdEMitchell I bought the wheelbase it's 70 quid shipped

[@EdEMitchell]

@@jimski5358 that's much more reasonable then. Enjoy the new wheelbase dude.

[@karleverett3507]

I love my Moza R9 wheel and base. Used my mates CSL DD and he’s used mine. We both prefer the Moza. Not sure why you shit on it so much.

[@KarlGosling]

I've not used the R9 but the R16 and accompanying wheel, screen and pedals were literally the worst I've ever used, the screen didn't work and the pedals were so poorly made they cut me open live during the video review... doesn't get much worse than that mate! lol

[@karleverett3507]

@@KarlGosling that doesn’t track with other reviews I’ve seen. I know some were not impressed with the R16 and pedals at first but it wasn’t build quality and was fixed in firmware updates. The steering wheel is excellent quality (which it should be for the price) so I don’t understand that. I don’t think you can see past the Fanatec eco system which is a shame. I’m glad more reviewers are pushing past the Fanatec choke hold, as it’s creating better products at cheaper prices.

[@dimsoneill]

@@karleverett3507 WIll from Boosted Media also had a crap time with the R16 quality-wise. Rust on the motor shaft, unfinished shifters, bad wiring routing, they kept lying to him telling him first it was a production review ready product, then back-pedalling once the quality issues were highlighted and said it was a prototype. Dodgy AF. The R9 looks to be a much better product at a much better price. Glad you are happy with yours. I'm currently about to pull the trigger on a CSL DD, will have to keep the R9 in mind but that start from Moza put me off them TBH. That and China and Australia aren't really seeing eye to eye at the moment, so really F 'em and their social credit scores big brother BS.😉

[@karleverett3507]

@@dimsoneill no that’s fair enough I ordered a CSL DD originally but the wait time was too long so started to look elsewhere hence giving the R9 a shot. I have the Fanatec H patten/sequential shifter and a few other parts but don’t sign fully up to the hype which I know can get you lynched on socials. I don’t see many reviewers going back to say how bad the CSL quick release is and addressing all the problems people are having. Reviewers get lots of stuff through Fanatec because they are a massive company and I that generates the views and the channel growth, then I feel it’s don’t bite the hand that feeds you. The CSL DD is great though, you will love it.

[@AdzzVR]

Yep I got the R9 too, I’ve seen so many Reddit users of the Fanatec having qr issues and broken and bent pins, so I looked elsewhere and now my R9 is arriving in a few hours.

[@lightsiderevan7233]

Hi, a few months ago I purchased the ThrustMaster T-LCM pedal And I was immediately disappointed with the brake pedal I purchased every brake mod I could find but they all either cost to much ( I paid £19.99 for a single printed spring ) or didn't give me what I wanted so I bought myself a 3d printer and I went to work now after 15 revisions I think I have something that works so I need testers the first 5 people that reply to this post will get a free brake mod kit all I need is detailed critiques on what you would add, remove or change about my system. And if anyone can get me in contact with Karl that would be great.

[@gsam_dad5540]

Hi, I'll happily try your mod & let you know exactly how it works for me. Let me know how to get it & we can move this along. Thanks.

[@ThatGuyJeromeYTC]

I have a TLCM and I’m looking for mods, if you want I can test for you.

[@lightsiderevan7233]

If anyone is interested in testing for me please message me with your email address and we can talk.

[@lightsiderevan7233]

@@gsam_dad5540 go to my about page and pm me on twitter

[@justklutzyYT]

hey let me know, i am definitely interested

[@angelodejesus9138]

dreaming to have one

[@StatsGam4er]

Dream bigger bro... lol

[@fazlee712]

important technical question: what do you use in your hair?

[@KarlGosling]

😆 Now this is a random one! lol I use whatever shampoo the missus has in the bathroom and Fish Shape Texturizing Cream - amzn.to/3l0yUZG

[@hoezyyy]

the only game that really works flawless with this steering wheel is acc. i've tryed power and effects ratio on 100% and the rest on 0 and now i have a bruised thumb 😐

[@gulfcoaster210]

It works best with acc because of the much much higher ffb delivery rate. The cammus base essentially lacks interpolation filters making it a poor fit for sims with much lower resolution (slower refresh) ffb delivery like iracing.

[@aqulex84]

15nm? Peak or holding torque? Mostly the cheaper brands talk about peak torque which is pretty irrelevant if it comes to real life driving experience. Holding torque is the important figure we need.

[@KarlGosling]

As I said in the video mate I don't know.

[@aqulex84]

@@KarlGosling i thought you might have asked them again and maybe got an answer. It's sad that "new players" in the Industrie always think that especially youtubers and "influencer" are that easy to impress with meaningless (or better described) big numbers instead of giving the full picture to reviewers.

[@seebarry4068]

That’s going to cost a bit to ship I would think.

[@KarlGosling]

Just don't buy one! lol

[@Jo-oy9ko]

Sorry, it's been a year since this video, has this base improved? Do I respect a moza r12 or a Simagic alpha mini? 

[@disapwned]

better to have this option... :)

[@FatswellSmart]

it's 18nm at absolute max according to cammus

[@abercrombie9585]

Hey, so I bought the star tech Display port to HDMI adapters, (among many others,) I have 3 LG C1’s with the rog strix 3090 and even at 60hz I can not get GSYNC to work, any ideas? I’ve tried 2k, 4K, 120hz, 60hz and still no matter what GSYNC won’t work.

[@00Clive00]

Is g sync or VRR working ok without the adaptor on just one TV? I have a C1 and experience with G-sync/VRR, so may be able to help.

[@TheRatlord74]

Apparently this can only be achieved using displayport. Your adapters may be the issue.

[@KarlGosling]

Probably the cables IME.

[@abercrombie9585]

So I can achieve GSYNC with two of the C1’s using hdmi 2.1 cables, it’s when I add the 3rd screen and have to use the DisplayPort to hdmi adapter when nvidia surround then disables GSYNC/VRR on all 3 screens. My cables are all either DisplayPort 1.4 or hdmi 2.1, but it’s all the DP to hdmi adapters that just can’t seem to get everything to work correctly.

[@abercrombie9585]

I have tried over a dozen different adapter, active or not, and don’t get me wrong the startech adapter is probably the best quality I’ve gotten so far except maybe one of the active adapter that needs to be powered with a usb cable, but I was just curious if anyone has figured out a way to get triple LG C1 screens to run flawlessly yet

[@Sean-ps3ec]

ThrustMaster rebranded DD wheel lol

[@OhItsThat]

Ugly as all hell. I’d never buy one. Simagic is the only Chinese company I’d consider spending any money with and that’s only because they’ve been around longer then the others and seem to belong in the space for the right reasons. I won’t just buy a product because it’s cheaper.

[@KarlGosling]

Agreed mate!

[@thyresias194]

To start the simracing this steering wheel is fine, people are not all rich. The problem with youtubers is that they don't have the a realistic concept of money. If you at least pay your simracing hardware ? It’s easy to say simcube DD has 3000 euro is great or the wheel cube controls has 1500 euros is a good !!!

[@KarlGosling]

You have no idea what my concept of money is (I actually come from a poor family where we had very little) and I work hard for what money I have now! Also I pay for a good percentage of what I review on this channel and the rest I have to work for so I do not agree with your comment at all. This wheel base for it's price is ok, but that does not make it a good wheel base or option for people.

[@chrisj5753]

Looks like junk, I would never buy this

[@earthexplorer579]

for 700 bit too much cos fantec sell for same price dd1 and wheel

[@chrisjames7803]

fixed on asthetics review imo, having owned a c5 for a few months now, its a solid wheel that far far out performs twice the price items by EVERY other company. Personally Id argue this is a better item BECAUSE your not paying the 'bullshit' boujie industry pricing. It was really interesting to see you not actually using the item at all in your review, and then draw comparisons to chinese companys,, funnily the exact same companys other manufacturers get to make components OR to assemble said components then Profit off you. Its a brave move by this tiny company to stand in the face of these giants (and im not talking fanatec or moza etc Logitech/ thrustmaster) offering a BETTER product at a VASTLY more competitive price. given Fanatec has proven just how shocking they are in the last 2 yrs, why are you still band waggonning with people who cant run a business DESPITE extortinate pricing structures. It just shows where @product placement@ gains you favour.. Great Job Karl!!

[@KarlGosling]

You do see me use everything in the video, you obviously didn't watch it all and instead went straight for your keyboard defending your purchase... not uncommon. But this exact wheel base literally went up in smoke two months later! The cooling fan was missing from the PCB it overheated and caught fire!... It's a prime example of poorly made eastern products with very poor QC. The C5 (I have one here right new for review) has come a long way and I'm hoping is a much better all round product.