Campaigners warn of 'decimation' in Wales if trees are planted in the countryside

[@dinah3525]

What the local people “don’t want” is the wrong sort of tree. Specifically, non-native mono crops (that is, row after row of conifers) which do absolutely nothing to support the local eco-systems (birds, bees, etc) and which indeed are damaging to suchlike. All that such mono-crops do is make money for the land-owner when they are cut down and sold off. Terrible. Very best wishes to the concerned people in that area.

[@craigharkins4669]

I agree with the local as well and wish them we'll. I'm sick and tired of seeing plantation forests everywhere. I'm up in Scotland and so many of the grougs of trees I see are non-native trees planted tightly together so there's not even enough space to enter with out being smacked by branches. No light gets in and nothing grows on the forest floor. It's terrible for biodiversity.

[@lesreid2704]

Very well said. The land will eventually become a desert if sitka spruce plantations are created. The vitally important upland mosses and habitat will be destroyed and this will only increase land erosion and cause flooding at lower levels. Monoculture is the cause of much of the flooding in the UK in the last thirty years.

[@MrTomo1188]

We need to plant the right trees in the right places, conifers are non-native and are bad for biodiversity

[@kate9576]

They are easy to harvest and make the local government a lot of money for Lumber. It was done in Scotland. Looks crappy, is crappy.

[@ulysseshenderson8717]

Sorry but exactly how bad is it for the environment ? Is it worse then not having any trees at all ? I don’t think so mate

[@iamaduckquack]

We can't have elms etc due to Dutch elm disease.

[@Andrew-rc3vh]

Sack the socialist government then. Ask anyone who lived in the USSR what top-down planning was like.

[@joe5922]

@@ulysseshenderson8717 He said "bad for biodiversity" not "the environment", and he's absolutely correct. Conifers don't contribute to ecosystems in the way that our native trees do. But they're cheap and profitable, and that's why they're chosen.

[@jasonuren3479]

They did this after the war in UK. Conifers don't do anything for the habitat. Big mistake if they go that route.

[@chllauk]

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[@jasonuren3479]

@@chllauk what has that got to do with anything?

[@lemdixon01]

@@jasonuren3479 maybe it has something to do with habitat. The clue is in the words.

[@bagpuss9494]

We have the same problem in New Zealand. Yes plant trees but the right ones in the right place.

[@paulgerg6879]

Investment firms ruining the environment. What a shocker!

[@ManDryver]

No more conifers in Wales please - native oak is best

[@chllauk]

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[@MrTomo1188]

Agreed conifers are non-native and bad for biodiversity

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

Agreed :)

[@galactic_nerd-sk4747]

They need to be planted in the cities where the air ought to be cleaner and where nature is seriously dwindling. It's common sense. The solution to the problem should be at/in the heart of the problem.

[@chllauk]

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[@lemdixon01]

Elites want to get us into smart cities

[@galactic_nerd-sk4747]

@@lemdixon01 this is nothing about smart cities, I'm talking about bloody trees

[@charlottemarceau8062]

Your framing of this issue is ridiculous. Its not environmentalism to destroy farmland for cheap pine timbre production and selling carbon credits.

[@glenith50]

As soon as govt, corporations etc started using phrases like "Carbon Credits" ,"Offsetting" and "Net Zero". I knew instantly that it's all bollocks and they're really just out to make as much as possible on something they presently don't have an answer for without decimating their own financial interests.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

“Substantial grants available” was the key phrase.

[@SnowofLight]

Pine/Fir trees where they don't belong is a huge mistake. Plant a forest of elm or oak, we won't mind.

[@notthemessiah9243]

Wasn't Britain once covered in forest up until people arrived?

[@thetimelapseguy8]

Yes but not carbon credit forests

[@nick000002]

They need to be Oak Trees 🐿🦡🦔🕷🪲🐝🦇🦉🐛🦋🐌🪳🪱🐞🦅🐴🐺

[@chllauk]

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[@TitiniusAndronicus]

A healthy woodland is a diverse woodland. A commercial conifer forest is basically a desert. Very little else grows or lives there. Land management is a responsibility requiring wisdom, not an asset for profit.

[@Aircraftsystemst]

Please do not plant Scots pine trees. We need more native hardwood forests. And while your at it release native wild animals into these areas. The human species knows nothing but greed.

[@iamaduckquack]

Be grateful they're not just building houses.

[@chungasrevenge4306]

Why oh why didn't the Welsh government buy all this land for the future of the Welsh national interest??

[@WileyFox01]

It's not a woodland their proposing - It's monoculture that does nothing for diverscity, if it was mixed deciduous it may be another story. Selling Britain by the pound !

[@checktheskies5040]

We the people want our leaders to work for the people whos tax they use unwisely. Its about time they started to give back. A Royal property auctioned off to go to the NHS (staff,training) schools and care homes. That would be a welcome action for all the people have sacrificed for decades. What a morale boost that would be? Not bailing out bankers gambling and public bailouts if unfair.

[@paulmcmorran7572]

Only thing is the royal family own all there buildings the government use tax payments go to help refurbishment because the queenrules our country not the government

[@checktheskies5040]

@@paulmcmorran7572True. Also Royal wealth would not exist without the people. A gesture like I posted is well overdue. The Gov is a criminal disgrace and needs rapid change.

[@paulmcmorran7572]

@@checktheskies5040 but the royals to bring in more in revenue than what they take out they have race courses aswell that brings them millions plus they bring in millions in torisum aswell so it kinda evens out what they take and what they give the real problem is the government it might not seem like that but they queen needs to sign every new law and without her a could see the government running wild like what's happening in America at the moment the government has all the power with no one to awnser to

[@naidadeschesne9958]

Carbon footprint... carbon credits... everyone has gone stupid! 🙄🙄🙄

[@addressadam]

I feel like this could have explained why aren't wanted a lot better.

[@richardsantos7356]

Well, well, well if it isn’t my predictions of the future come to light. America is doing the same and kicking farmers out of their land. The government’s grants won’t last forever. I think it’s a pretty generous window of 10 - 15 years they were given to innovate. They didn’t and blamed it on brexit.

[@pokeybit]

Bloody Trees

[@pokeybit]

Taking our jobs

[@MassiveChetBakerFan]

Wales needs a lot more trees, but they need to be oak, elm, beech, willow, sycamore, Scots pine, yew, etc, not sitka spruce.

[@teamev1976]

An English Baroness bought a farm in wales to plant trees on it. She threw off a sheep farmer in the princess.

[@mutantryeff]

Government should be treated like a bad marriage.

[@chllauk]

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[@karengregory8503]

We have to plant the right trees for our land!

[@BrynRees2008]

Well done for researching the pronunciation of both place names....... 🙄

[@bluemoon3264]

They don’t want trees 🌲 .

[@nick000002]

It could be used to its full potential as a car park for a drive through 🤔

[@dinah3525]

What those local people “don’t want” is the wrong sort of tree. Specifically, non-native mono crops (that is, row after row of conifers) which do absolutely nothing to support the local eco-systems (birds, bees, etc) and which indeed are damaging to suchlike. All that such mono-crops do is make money for the land-owner when they are cut down and sold off. Terrible.

[@OriginalMorningStar]

I'd rather see managed forestation than a bunch of cheap tatty housing developments...

[@lindahughes4409]

In Leitrim Ireland the young farmers have set up an organisation called stop the Sitka no forest company will invest in land and now young farmers have a chance to buy land to expand

[@timothysdog6130]

Conifers may be a great financial investment but they need to listen to the local community. I live in a beautiful place but wind turbines and building on open land has spoiled it. Seems money comes first

[@craigharkins4669]

Money always come first. These big companies don't give a damn about the "little' people.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

........”Substantial grants available” ... Ah, now there’s the key phrase!

[@Hi-hh2rv]

2012-2024 and many larch forests have been felled in S Wales. Some bright spark back after the war planted the one species for telegraph poles and such apparently but too close together. Now they're planting varieties to compliment the land. Total carnage seeing ancient routes and trees destroyed to get at the larch. Not exactly tidy about it either. However, speaking to one very old lady she did say 'about bloody time the trees are taking over!' She was used to more open land and our traditional British trees growing up. My own observation, not much else grew around these larch trees. My query has alway been though what about the rest of the tree, we all know a tree is just as much and just as much alive below ground as it is above. Does disease stop at the root system/ is the ground treated? Chemical worry if so. My point is.. if greed is involved will this happen again! My guess it will.

[@Greenz1100]

They can plant anywhere. Why Wales? Leave Wales alone. Let that group plant trees back in the Amazon forest. The only offset is the the rap group called the Migos. Stop this immediately...

[@beradogs922]

Go to Powys now and it’s just a mass of chicken sheds. I see more natural beauty when I visit Epping Forest in London.

[@buff2497]

Should productive agricultural land have trees planted on it?

[@cloudzack1090]

My ancestors came from wales, wish the best

[@terrenceebert7212]

In times of lack of food bad idea.

[@pedrothewise2584]

Theyre not keen on outsiders.

[@arsebiscuits560]

Farmers are going the same way as the coal miner

[@mbb05jb]

the building trade need more conifers to service house building. conifers are an important part of decarbonisation

[@evansrussell45]

This is the Welsh Assemblys idea????

[@teamev1976]

Conifers have shallow roots so will easily fall over in the elements.

[@theautisticcreative2619]

We humans can be selfish when it comes to what we see out our windows, because "property value" and the "view" If the land is suitable for crops plant crops, if it is better to plant a species of tree that can help offset CO2 emissions then plant Oak and other trees that can survive Britain, if a mix can be reached do both. If you overpaid for a house because of the view that's on you.

[@lemdixon01]

Globe elites can selfish wanting to make people into serfs and to take away their livelyhood, forcing them into Agenda 2030 smart cities, rewilding the countryside and making it out of bounds for the people. Human caused climate change is false, dont be fooled by the propaganda or don't be a sell out propagandist.

[@Pixieworksstudio]

I so agree. What the farmers do to the land is no better than planting conifers!!

[@aarononeal9830]

Shy news needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants tress ...

[@ukv7328]

In the name of green eco 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@chllauk]

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[@lemdixon01]

Ecofaxism

[@john-lenin]

Obviously trees are an eyesore.

[@darryltelka5043]

Useless waste of money

[@mooxbleach9073]

A change is happening and coming if we like it or not

[@lemdixon01]

UN Agenda2030 sastainability goals ?

[@deniscousley6905]

All part of the plan!

[@MotoTvWoodsFarm]

farmers going out of business, brexit?

[@lemdixon01]

Global Elites want a Hunger Games situation

[@aljanat5375]

Foresight to create a carbon sink in place of a carbon producing chemical intensive arable or anti-biotic filled livestock farm is worth its weight in Platinum. Good to know it is happening in the run up to HM's Platinum Jubilee :-).

[@chllauk]

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[@boredgrass]

Elect parties and Prime Ministers that, instead of juvenile delinquencies like Brexit, make laws that provide ecological guidance AND responsible oversight, in this case, a law that requires investors to limit their activities to such those that don't change the protected character or endanger in any way protected areas. *Of cause, parties and Prime Ministers that actually use their power to secure the enforcement of such a law. Brexit gamers have, of course, no time for that; they have the fallout of Brexit on their hands...

[@Pluto60]

Uk 🇬🇧 citizens can’t own it’s lands , but none uk 🇬🇧 citizens can Easily can lol 😂

[@CitrusMenace]

Meanwhile boris implements no restrictions despite 150000 cases a day and rising deaths. Oh dear boris im a Conservative but you are pushing me to the edge

[@mmyres2567]

Yeah well can’t live with restrictions forever and as a form of covid will be here FOREVER we should just learn to live with it and crack on

[@CitrusMenace]

@@mmyres2567 and sacrifice millions of vulnerable people?

[@galactic_nerd-sk4747]

I understand the point but as horrible as it sounds, everybody has to die from something. I'm in no way wishing illness on anyone, ofc I'm not but we locked down last winter (absolutely the right thing to do), we now have the vaccines and everybody who wants them now has theirs and we've just got to get on with it. There's no point cowering, covid will eventually just evolve itself into a more contagious flu-like virus. The balance is difficult and I don't mind some light restrictions this winter (masks are a big yes) but I think imposing more restrictions to control a virus producing less than 50 deaths per day doesn't seem particularly necessary imho

[@danielgray8243]

I'll sharpen my axe then 😉

[@rinkadink66]

tuff...

[@Diwana71]

Reverse colonization on UK.

[@kevinwebster5485]

O no, let’s not plant trees.. get a life