CAMPING in the wind and rain - testing out the MSR Hubba NX in bad weather

CAMPING in the wind and rain - testing out the MSR Hubba NX in bad weather
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Hi EVERYONE! In this video I go on my first wild camping trip since lock down easing in England and it quickly turned into wild camping in the wind and rain. I was able to test out the MSR Hubba NX tent in the bad weather along with my directional skills (also bad) in the clag!
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[@SimonOutdoors]

I hope you enjoy the video everyone and I look forward to responding to your comments below, don't forget to subscribe and thumbs up on the video :)

[@MadCowOutdoors]

great video as usual Simon. Any chance of a top 5 backpacking tents for those with height issues? i am 6'4" and am struggling with finding a good lightweight backpacking tent that i can comfortably fit in for a reasonable price. all the best - Rich

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Rich, almost at the 1k mark so spread the video far and wide ;) straight off the bat I would say lanshan 2 but I will have a think. Thanks for a great idea for more content 👍🏻👍🏻 take care

[@amcoutdoors]

@@MadCowOutdoors Sorry for hijacking the comment lads but I just wanted to note that the Terra Nova Laser Comp 1 is just about long enough for your height. I'm 6ft4 as well and I have had many a comfortable night in mine when I used it 👍 I'd also like to see the video Richard suggested if possible 👍👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks for this mate again, really helpful 👍🏻

[@PaulMessner]

perfect camping weather mate...loved it.

[@SimonOutdoors]

ha thanks mate, ideal for ducks!

[@robalan57]

I watched another video on the Hubba. When it is raining you can setup the rainfly first to keep the rest of tent dry. Rainfly first, then footprint, and finally the tent main body. Keep the tent body and footprint in a dry bag separate from the rainfly to keep it dry while putting the rainfly up. Actually I am not sure if he did the rainfly first or the footprint first. It seems like the rainfly would be first. I am going to give it a try when the tent arrives.

[@SimonOutdoors]

I don’t think it’s possible mate as the only way the fly can stay up is because it sits on the structure of the inner and poles. Have a look when you put it up. Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏻 really appreciate it

[@multigabby2]

@@SimonOutdoors Hi Simon it is possible to put the Fly/ cover on first, its a bit of a faff but keeps the inner dry, you can also use it as a shelter without inner pitched, but you've probably worked this out by now cheers.

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@multigabby2 Thanks Gabby, that's really helpful. I have since parted ways with this tent due to an upgrade. I miss it though! Si

[@CampingDan85]

Great to see you out and that wind was unreal. "A rainy day in the hills is better than sunny day in the office " as my co worker always says to me. Hopefully you get better weather next time you are out. ATB Dan. 👍👍👍👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks for watching and commenting Dan, fingers crossed the weather improves 👍🏻

[@hoboesque_]

I also feel the MSR range getting unfairly judged re durability in windy conditions . its all about the extra guy lines and keeping them taut . I swapped out the cord in the poles for new and t also made a difference once the tent is a few years old.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Totally agree mate, I was surprised it held up. Brilliant brand and great tent in my opinion. Take care mate, good tip there

[@profd65]

MSR makes great stuff. A lot of people online are just idiots.

[@karlbratby4349]

And if it's windy before you picth then pitch in a sheltered spot... but im maybe a bit of a pussy LOL

[@My24hradventure]

I watched that with a big smile 😊 These videos are just more fun when the weather is bad. Well done and looking forward to the next one! 👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

Haha so true somehow, many thanks mate 👍🏻👍🏻

[@desbravatube]

tamo junto sempre, é isso aí Att: Weliton Marks - Canal Desbravatube

[@SimonOutdoors]

👍🏻

[@ChannelBMusic]

Brilliant! Cant tell how much you were waiting for this - out on the first opportunity x Looking forward for you to hit your first 1k!! Yayy!

[@SimonOutdoors]

😂😂 aww thanks Bhanu, appreciate the comments and you taking time to watch. Take care 👍🏻

[@welshboyoo715]

Simon, we can all say, in hindsight "I should have done this or that" or taken this, but it seemed to me you enjoyed yourself overall. I thought you did bloody well! I have an MSR Elixir2 and I live on the coast of Mid Wales, and yes it gets a little gusty at times lol. My MSR has never let me down, all of the MSR products I own (quite a lot) are great quality and perform really well. Good video that shows that even in the worst summer storm you can have a good night. Thanks for sharing with us, greets from wet, wet and wetter Wales 👍👍👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks for commenting and watching mate, I really appreciate it. I agree re MSR they do have some great products. I hope the weather improves where you are in Wales soon mate, take care and all the best 👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheDeterminedRunner]

Well done on the camp, you must have been keen to go in that weather, good to see the tent holding up well 👍🏃

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks mate, I was just happy to be out again. Take care mate and many thanks for watching and commenting :)

[@benhikescamps]

REALLY enjoyed that video mate. Crazy weather. I was at about 150m at the same time of you as you know. Ditchling is higher up so no wonder you were having it even rougher than me! You seemed really bushed at the end with the one-hour sleep! LOL - slurring those words mate! Great video as always. Keep going! Can't believe you're nearly at 1K. Proud to have been a sub since the start! ATB - Ben

[@SimonOutdoors]

Mate you're a legend! Thanks for all of the support over the last year, really looking forward to your version. Totally slurring! I was done by the end. I can't believe the 1k either, fingers crossed I actually make it. Take care Ben and have a good weekend my friend, Simon

[@babyharddrive]

That was a great video Simon. Authentic from the very beginning and interesting on so many levels. From the long walk through the forest, the tent you took and pitched, the clothing you wore, to the food you cooked and the can of Jack Daniel’s. I haven’t watched any of your other videos as yet but it you keep things real like this one whether or not the sun is shining, then you’ll always have my attention and my likes! Thanks for sharing 👍🏽

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks mate, good to know the individual points that you enjoyed! Si

[@ThePrimitiveOne]

The mist through the trees looked awesome mate. Great video👍 you will soon hit 1000 mate. Take care. Si

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks mate, really appreciate that 👍🏻👍🏻

[@karltubbritt8991]

You got out. At least you tested the tent out. Great video. X

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Karl, it was crazy weather but great to be out again. Take care and thanks for watching and commenting, Simon

[@AshOutdoorsUK]

Good to see you out mate, shame about the weather and lack of sleep. And glad you didn’t have to abandon this one! All the best mate Ash 🏕

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks mate, hung in there this time. Mostly because the tent actually held together! Take care 👍🏻

[@HardyTempestsWildCampsandWalks]

Just amazing how different the weather was in the UK that day. Was perfect in Norfolk. Great video. Hardy

[@SimonOutdoors]

Surprising and it’s not so far away, many thanks for watching Hardy. Looking forward to your next one 👍🏻👍🏻

[@theheightoflife]

Cool video as always... gotta love the weather in our country hahaha. Still tho looks like you had fun and always brilliant to be in the great outdoors no matter what the elements. Have fun 👍🏕

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks mate 👍🏻 really appreciate it. Totally agree, was just glad to be out again

[@peesua]

I purchased 4 Delta pegs and it was a great investment as staking those out on strategic points of any tent gives you that extra confidence normal pegs don't. I've camped in two storms so far (between 60 to 80/85 mph winds) and my tent was going nowhere due to those Delta pegs I reckon.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Nice one mate, the pegs sure do make a difference. Can you remember which supplier you got them from? Thanks for watching, really appreciate it

[@EventyrsorenDenmark]

Hi !!! Very cool video.Enjoyed it a lot.Love it when the weather go bad.The MSR tents are great.I got the Free lite 3 and love it.See you in the next video.ATB:Soren

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks for watching and commenting Soren, MSR are great tents I agree :) take care 👍🏻👍🏻

[@MontyOutdoors]

That MSR did do a cracking job 👏

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks mate! It really did, I was surprised. Take care 👍🏻

[@arranbailey4818]

Just makes me want to get out there, I actually like bad weather makes you feel more in touch with it all somehow, thanks again for a great video.

[@SimonOutdoors]

No problem Arran, thanks for watching mate. I agree with you there 👍🏻

[@WyeExplorer]

TAB - tactical advance to battle. I used to do that Simon with some of the best in the Parachute Regiment mate. It was a fierce pace in all weathers as you can imagine - a bit like this. Good going. Mark

[@SimonOutdoors]

Impressive Mark, I wasn’t aware you were in the army. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a good weekend 👍🏻

[@WyeExplorer]

@@SimonOutdoors Yes, Simon I was - did P Company a couple of times/strange twist in the story why it didn't happen for me and my twin. The aim was to be like my dad who was 22 SAS for over 22 years. A big name and pioneer in the regiment. Two of my Uncles were regiment to. Been outdoors most my life and been inspired by some of the best. That's it really my association with the army. They were all good people and my training and inspirations have been invaluable. Some stories are on my channel. Peace dude.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Really interesting story Mark, the SAS surely the elite of the British army. I have been following some navy seals on social media and their stories are impressive. Peace ✌️

[@WyeExplorer]

@@SimonOutdoors Yeah, the family have some stories to tell Simon. The Navy Seals are good. The regiment helped establish Delta Force. They're all worked closely. Peace!

[@BorderRambler]

Britain in summer Simon lol , it did add to the atmosphere mind . But as you said it was great to be out camping once again. I'm hoping to hit the fells on friday night and the weather looks a bit hitty missy . The MSR held well in those wild conditions and survived the night .atb Dave

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks for watching Dave, will look forward to the video if you do get out and shoot it. I hope you’re keeping well, surprised she held well! Britain in summer, bloody hell! Take care mate 👍🏻

[@jdhiker5576]

Loved it bud proper wild camp👌

[@SimonOutdoors]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching mate. Really appreciate it

[@seanmurphy6623]

Great you got out again. 1 week before I'm off to Dartmoor for 3 days next week cannot wait...

[@SimonOutdoors]

Good luck Sean, let me know how you get on. Thanks for watching and commenting

[@seanmurphy6623]

@@SimonOutdoors Will let you know how it goes and hopefully have some pictures lol

[@MuddyDuck...]

Congrats on getting out despite the weather - and great that the MSR held up fine. Look forward to watching your future adventures. Also Subscribed, as previous attempt obviously didn’t work. ATB

[@SimonOutdoors]

Ah thanks buddy really appreciate that, take care and all the best, Simon

[@jaioutdoors1481]

Fair play sticking at this one mate. Still nice enjoying a tot in the tent whatever the weather. 👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

Agree matey, I hope you are enjoying your weekend. Thanks for watching and commenting

[@LezleysAdventures]

when i saw that weather i thought oh boy lol

[@SimonOutdoors]

😂😂 it was horrific Lezley, thanks so much for continuing to watch, really appreciate it :)

[@danwebster5160]

Nicely done. Cycled up the beacon a few times. Shame you missed out on the view. Love that you went for it and enjoyed yourself regardless. What it's all about! Best wishes.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Dan mate, really appreciate the comments and you taking time to watch. Take care, Simon

[@DaveOutdoors]

Get in mate, glad to see you out.... Seemed very viscous out there, we had a vile night in the Peaks aswel. Almost at the 1k mate. look forward to the day you hit that. ATB Dave x

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks buddy, looking forward to seeing your vid. Nearly there, fingers crossed I will hit the mark. Take care and thanks for watching and commenting x

[@azclaimjumper]

A HOT meal when camping is always tasty, especially when it's windy, cold, & or rainy. Do yourself a favor, Simon. Get a small patch of Reflectix & then wrap it around a 750ml Titanium cup to form a Koozie then secure it with some tape. You want the Reflectix to cover sides, top, & bottom of cup. Next time, take your 750 ml cup out of it's Koozie, boil water, put the cup/boiling water back into it's Koozie, pour your Freeze Dried meal out of its foil pouch & into the cup. No need to use the foil pouch. Wait for your meal to rehydrate. The Koozie greatly reduces heat loss during the re-hydration of the meal. When you are ready to eat, you'll most likely find the food TOO HOT. You'll be able to enjoy a HOT meal right down to the last spoonful. Once you've made a Koozie for your Titanium cup & used it to retain heat you'll wonder why you never thought of this method B4. You'll then want to make a video & share this lil cooking trick/treat with the world. AZClaimjumper from Reno, Nevada in U.S.A.

[@SimonOutdoors]

This is brilliant advice, many thanks mate. Do you know where I can get the Refectix, I'm in the UK so probably amazon? Thanks for messaging all the way from Nevada! I hear you have some great mountains to explore over there. Take care, Simon

[@azclaimjumper]

@@SimonOutdoors I'd try Home Depot or any business that deals with builder's supplies You might even have some & not even realize it. Reflectix is the material used to make those sun shades people put behind the windshield to block the sun while parked. Yes, Simon, there are a lot of mountains nearby that have trails & or bushwhacked. I do a lot of geocaching. And speaking of Mountains the high Sierra's are nearby which separate California from Nevada. As I was watching your video inside your MSR Hubba NX I was thinking about my own COLD gusty windy overnight along the Rim to Reno 25 mile trek from The Mount Rose trailhead to the Thomas Creek trailhead. I encountered COLD STRONG gusty winds @ 9,000', fortunately, I'd put heavy rocks on top of the 10 stakes I needed for my REI Quarter Dome SL 1 tent + its 3 guyout lines. I didn't sleep because of the noise of the strong gusty winds which blew my tent to & fro all night. However, my tent did its job & provided me with protected shelter from the COLD gusty winds & I was comfy warm inside my sleeping bag.

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@azclaimjumper it sounds like you have had some great experiences and you live in a great area for it. Windshield to block the sun, I know that stuff! Thanks for your useful insight

[@azclaimjumper]

@@SimonOutdoors Here is a link to my Koozie wrapped cups: www.flickr.com/photos/bc_az/albums/72157717283951098

[@Del0w_]

Glad you replaced that rain jacket, lovely soul warming content Simon.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks for watching mate 👍🏻

[@stealthandysteath1069]

Nothing like crazy weather to test ya tent lol. Nice one mate. Tc Andy

[@SimonOutdoors]

Agreed Andy, it certainly was that! Thanks for watching mate :)

[@bigearsbridge4732]

Great to see you out again on an overnighter, shame the weather was so poor but glad you enjoyed it anyway. Can't believe you couldn't find a hill, lol. Fingers crossed for a better weekend.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks mate, it was good fun. Fingers crossed for better weather next time. Take care and thanks for the comment and for watching, atb

[@lizgray3369]

Great! Nice to see you out again!

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Liz

[@DaveGoodman1959]

Simon you are going to be so happy when you go camping on a glorious evening. 😉👍 See you on the hill.

[@SimonOutdoors]

😂😂 so true! Thanks for watching and comment Dave 👍🏻

[@colinjones7156]

Hi Simon,seems like you had an eventful trip😃 ,still its great to get out and about again .I had my first wild camp on Monday night in the hills of Snowdonia. The weather was quite good with a slight wind,but the return walk to the car was very wet....who cares anyway really an excellent night was had.....Cheers👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hey Colin, thanks for taking time to watch and comment. I’m glad you got out, Snowdonia looks like a great place to wild camp. Surprising weather at the moment but at least the gear can part protect us! Take care, Simon

[@dazzaoutandabout4870]

Glad your back out Simon , even in such wild conditions. Maybe a few more JD’s you may have slept more, waking up saying ‘what wind’! ATB. Cheers

[@SimonOutdoors]

Or maybe some Jim Beam! 😂😂 Thanks Dazza mate, I hope you’re able to get out soon. Take care, Simon 👍🏻

[@jad2484]

Any good quality hiking/backpacking tent from the big reputable manufacturers is great in fair weather. What separates them is how they perform in total shit weather. I have a chepo Rokk backpacking tent that my wife and I bought new for about a hundred dollars from an old Army surplus store 16 or 17 years ago. We had no idea at the time about hi tek hiking/backpacking gear and we thought this tent was badass. Well in reality it was compared to the 8 or 9 pound Coleman 3 man tent we used on our first 2 hikes. We used the crap outta that tent for years in nice weather and in serious shit weather out on the coast of Washington and in the North Cascades Mountains and it never let us down. Stayed anchored down in 50+mph wind and stayed dry in solid sideways sheets of rain on multiple trips. My daughter and I literally spent 2 days cooped up in it playing checkers and card games due to wind and total downpour rain. It was so wet on that trip our rain gear was wet all the way through. Stayed warm and dry in that tent. We have since upgraded to really nice, solid, quality equipment but that little "chepo" tent will always have a special place in our heart of travels. I still have that tent and its still solid and I wouldn't hesitate to bring it out of retirement and use it if I needed to.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Nice one buddy, thanks for watching and commenting. Always remember my first tent too, a Berghaus 3.1, brilliant little tent and fond memories. There’s a lot of dross around at the budget level these days, I bet years ago the tents were solid. Having said that there will be some exceptions. I’ve recently purchased a fjallraven for that reason, I wanted a 4 season solid tent I can rely on in bad weather as I’ve had tents break on me in bad conditions. Looking forward to testing it. Some great comments there, many thanks 👍🏻 glad you and your family got out in some adverse conditions and were safe. Take care, Si

[@jad2484]

@@SimonOutdoors I find it very cool that you reply to many of the comments. 👍 Our first backpacks were the old external aluminum frame ones our parents used in the 70s and all we had was basic "car camping" gear such as sleeping bags that when rolled up were probably 12-14 inches in diameter and weighed about 6 or 7 lbs. Big huge bulky sleeping pads that were 3 inch thick memory foam, plastic military issue canteens, a mini Mr. Heater heater with a 1 pound propane cylinder, an old Camping Gaz bunsen burner stove and that 3 man Coleman dome tent I previously mentioned. Our base weight with that equipment was probably 50 pounds. They were super heavy, awkward, and extremely uncomfortable but it gave us a start and lite a spark. We never had a lot of money in those days and no knowledge of "hi tek" hiking gear so when we upgraded we upgraded with chepo stuff like that Rokk tent and our Rokk Front Range backpacks, and Coleman inflatable sleeping pads. We put a lot of miles and many trips on that stuff before we got turned on to the hi tek stuff and had the money for it. However as a result of those experiences we have a Great appreciation for our hi tek stuff like our Osprey Xenith and Xena packs. Our MSR pocket rocket deluxe stove, the Klymit insulated sleeping pads, our Hyke and Byke sleeping bags, platypus water pouches, Toakes titanium cook pot, MSR hubba hubba nx2 tent etc...etc...etc.. A piece of gear that may intestate you would be the AquaQuest tarps. They're Awesome!!!! Super light weight and 1000% waterproof. I think a 10'×7' is $80 and a 10'×10' is a $100 and they're a great addition for backpacking in crappy harsh weather for added protection. Anyhow stay safe out there bud and enjoy!!!

[@DanGalla]

More props to ya in that wind Simon!

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Dan mate it was pretty wild 👍🏻👍🏻

[@sarahtaylor8877]

Wax ear plugs will block out most sounds. Great video, thank you.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Great tip thanks Sarah - I had some synthetic ear plugs which helped a little! Take care, Simon

[@amcoutdoors]

Nice one mate 👍 Just subbed to your channel, you look to have some brilliant videos that I'll be working through over the next few nights 😂👍 Cheers, Adam

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Adam, really appreciate it mate

[@edcrosshair]

I’m down in Cornwall and the weather ain’t much better! Haven’t been out yet myself but can’t wait! Nice vid 8)

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks for watching and commenting mate, good luck when you are next out. I hope you have a great time 👍🏻👍🏻

[@peesua]

You love your stormy wildcamps. Perhaps consider changing your channel name to 'Stormin' Outdoors!'

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks mate, appreciate it 👍🏻 have a great weekend

[@keithshwalbe6981]

My my Simon, how you suffer for your art. Bravo game hardy fellow.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Keith, always a good experience had and something to remember :)

[@keithshwalbe6981]

@@SimonOutdoors . . You are absolutely right Simon.. . One thing that I particularly enjoy, is your predisposition or seeking out and finding what j call "the places in-between" . . Those often overlooked and disregarded little patches of green camping heaven that you recognise for the pleasure they offer. Keep up the good work Simon, stay safe and look after yourself well dear fellow xx

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks again Keith, I think you will only find things if you go out and look. Very few people achieve something significant by being comfortable. Probably an extreme example! Take care mate

[@keithshwalbe6981]

@@SimonOutdoors . . I'm apt to agree with you Simon.

[@jamesrobert262]

You seem to have gone up a level, really enjoying the content recently mate. Well done for not tapping out on this one 🤣🤣 The weather was the exact same on my camp on kinder yesterday. Still loved every min of it, so good to be back out 😱☺️

[@SimonOutdoors]

Ah many thanks James, really appreciate it buddy. I’m glad you had a good time on Kinder despite the conditions, take care and thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻👍🏻

[@jamesrobert262]

No problem mate 👍🏻

[@Jamiecarroll93]

How have I only now discovered your channel, amazing content. Really enjoy camping on dartmoor.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Jamie, really appreciate you taking time to watch and comment. Take care

[@DJOutdoors]

Good to see you back out there

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks mate, it was a windy and wet one but great to be out again.

[@hw5789]

Well done, mate. Nice british weather. A simple advise: if you didn't sleep well, you you simple drunk too less beer. 😉 Cheers, Hal

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Hal, I totally agree 😂😂 I needed more! Hit the sub if you enjoy the video mate, it really helps with the support 👍🏻👍🏻 take care, Simon

[@donpardoe8067]

Very atmospheric. Was that a yeti running across the left hand pathway in the background at 1:37?

[@SimonOutdoors]

😂😂 it may well have been. Thanks for watching and commenting mate, really appreciate it 👍🏻👍🏻

[@treklinda1309]

I don't like pitching tent in the wind..it does take ages. Great vid.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks mate 👍🏻 agree with you 😂

[@JohnWilliams-ge7eh]

Just started watching your videos. Keep up the good work mate 👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks John, much appreciated. Take care, Simon

[@aln4244]

You can see on your video that the rain fly is touching the mesh, if you had any rain at all or condensation that would be dripping all over you. Wind is fine.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks man, Si

[@whitetongueoutdoors]

Well done !! atb

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks buddy, take care

[@jamesharris4151]

Great video! I'm going on my first wild camp to the Lake district friday!

[@SimonOutdoors]

Good luck with it mate 👍🏻 let me know how you get on. Thanks for commenting and watching, really appreciate it

[@steveharrison1765]

It must of been windy if a inner tent first flapped around like that it did well though not a fan of MSR tents but it did well. Nice camp BTW.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks for watching and commenting Steve, to be honest I was surprised the tent held firm. Take care 👍🏻

[@RJOutdoors]

Great video Simon, shame about the weather but I enjoy the challenge sometimes, I thought you were going to get blown away at one point 😂 I've ordered form go outdoors and had to wait 3 weeks for my delivery. Thanks for sharing, ATB Rob

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hi Rob, thanks for the comment and for watching. I nearly got blown away several times! That is a long old wait but good you got there eventually. Take care

[@jonnytentpeg]

Hiya pal long time no comment I'm just about to press the buy button on a msr hubba hubba nx2 I've researched the hell out of them but not many wind camp reviews out there can I ask you if you had the 'spreader pole' on top of the main pole there or underneath as it can have that collapsing effect if it's not on top of the main pole if it was on top I need to rub my chin a bit more before buying cheers mate atb 😀👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hi mate, hope you’re well? You can pitch either way, I didn’t give it too much thought but a few people have commented I think on this video about which is the ‘correct’ way. I wouldn’t like to say myself. Hopefully this helps? Si

[@gurgenmakaryan4428]

Jacket-Arcteryx Betta AR !

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@papergardenco]

Hi, Simon I commented on a previous video. I’m from Brighton and live off Ditchling road! So, I think you were in my parking spot when talking at the end 😉. The single bay by the junction?. Ha, I take my dog there quite a bit. What part of Brighton are you from?. I’m currently buying my kit, so that I can go on my first wild camping trip. Maybe, somewhere local to begin with! Wish me luck!

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hey, thanks for commenting and watching really appreciate it :) I thought I might get a ticket but yeah that is the spot! I am from Shoreham. Good luck, let me know how you get on! Take care

[@papergardenco]

Simon Outdoors Thanks! will do! Are you aware of the car park, just by where you were? As you were facing, turn left, the entrance is half way down to the exit for Lewes. Just watch yourself as it’s one small entrance for cars in and out. There’s another a little way up on the road you were parked, by the cottages. They close the gate between 5-7. You are probably aware, just in case!

[@SimonOutdoors]

I had no idea! I did spot the one by the cottages but alas the gates were closed by the time I arrived. Thank you for the advice I really appreciate it :)

[@ic8896]

There's only one tent brand for UK and that's Hilleberg, bought once and forever!

[@SimonOutdoors]

Agree! Soulo?

[@ic8896]

@@SimonOutdoors Soulo, Unna and Tarra, guess will never buy another tent again:) Most of the time use the Unna, the other two only when enjoying the storm, not that Unna won't cope with 10mm poles. In my opinion Unna is the most underrated tent, love it and highly recommend! Love your videos! Keep them coming!

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@ic8896 awesome, I was looking at the unna last night. Is it large inside? It looks like one of the longer ones, I’m 6’5. Does it work well in winter? Do you think I would fit in a soulo? Many thanks mate 👍🏻

[@ic8896]

@@SimonOutdoors it will definitely be a struggle for you in the Soulo, specially in the winter with all the gear. I'm 170cm and still would prefer a bit more room. Unna is wider and roomier, the door is bigger so it's a lot easier to enter and get out. When it comes to the gear I just detach a corner of the inner at the feet side for the 68l backpack and boots, attach what can be attached over night so is not flappy. It works well for me. I trust this tent in bad weather same as Soulo, just changed to 10mm poles for winter. Hope it helps! Can't wait for the snow:)

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@ic8896 ha me too mate! Thanks a lot for this - really helpful. The Unna is slightly longer too and reading about it again last night they talk about it in terms of snow load and I understood it was 3 season. Very tempted, gutted I can't get a Soulo though due to size. Take care

[@BurtonOutdoors]

Nice to see you out Simon.. Personally, I wouldn't advertise where you camp ever, just keep it quiet and just to an area perhaps as they will all be wanting to camp on DB on NT land 😉 Those JD & Cokes are lovely. Enjoyed this. Lee

[@SimonOutdoors]

Good point mate 👍🏻 thanks for watching and commenting. It was a lovely couple of drinks despite the weather! Take care Lee 👍🏻

[@gerbenvet1647]

Hello, nice movie. Thanks. Maybe i mist it somewhere, my english is not so well, but your msr tent. Is it the Hubba Bubba nx 2?

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hallo Gerben, it is the MSR Hubba NX. Simon

[@ThePainterr]

Been looking for a one man tent that can withstand British weather ...and finally think this MSR Hubba NX is it! So thanks for enduring a hectic night for all of us looking to buy a fairly robust solo tent to endure ol' Blimeys moods.I can respect someone who puts his money where his mouth is mate and does a thorough test of a product before shooting their mouth off how great the purchase is only to have buyers regret later on! Are there any other tents you could recommend that stand up to the challenge of wet and windy UK weather? By the way, got me sub'd!!!!

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks mate, really appreciate the comments and you taking time to watch. I had the old girl pegged out with Helm 2 pegs so I think that really helped. The ones that come with the NX are a bit lightweight! I've heard Hilleberg's are excellent but I have never owned one. I use the Wild Country Helm 2 which is pretty robust so far but it failed in a storm earlier in the year (I have that video)! What are your thoughts?

[@marcandsebe]

I have an MSR Hubba I use for kayaking. Never tried it in heavy wind before.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Nice one mate, it's a great tent. Do you have any other tents?

[@marcandsebe]

@@SimonOutdoors yes a North Face Particle 13, Coleman Phad 3, Jack Wolfskin Gossamer and a couple of Rab Bivi bags.

[@marcandsebe]

The MSR is my favourite

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@marcandsebe sounds very decent :) all the best mate

[@marcandsebe]

@@SimonOutdoors and you too. I love Ditching Beacon area. I have always wanted to do some wild camping, especially in the hills and mountains of the UK.

[@chrishomer]

Those woods with that must look perfect for photography! Are you ex forces?

[@SimonOutdoors]

No Chris, why do you ask?! Thanks for watching bud 👍🏻

[@chrishomer]

Simon Outdoors *mist.... I dunno just had a feeling you may have been, maybe a few things you said I can’t remember exactly. This was a few days ago. Did you say TAB? Maybe something else too. Anyway... got it wrong haha

[@SimonOutdoors]

No worries pal! Sorry it took me so long to get back to you! I sometimes miss the comments. Cheers mate 👍🏻

[@chrishomer]

Simon Outdoors Same here, half the time KZbin doesn’t bother to notify me

[@Karel.C]

How is the wind intrusion inside the tent in more normal windy weather? Do you feel the wind blowing on your body when you're sleeping? My tent has mesh almost to ground level and I can feel the wind too much. Just want to know if the Hubba is better.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Not really Karel, I’ve generally had a good pitch with this tent and the bathtub floor is high enough to prevent this. It’s a great little tent. Many thanks for watching and commenting

[@Karel.C]

@@SimonOutdoors that's what I wanted to hear😉

[@SimonOutdoors]

Karel Castelein no problem boss 👍🏻

[@KOOLKELLY94]

Hi Simon, thanks for the video, looked like a good bit of weather! I'm looking at buying the MSR Hubba Hubba after one of Vango's higher spec, lightweight tents failed after a few weeks of use so I'm looking to make a new investment. Only, I've heard that the seams on the Hubba Hubba aren't sealed and can be prone to leaking. How did yours hold up and do you think it could have handled it if the storm had got a bit worse? Thanks in advance! Josh

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hey Josh, yeah I think it could’ve handled a bit worse. It’s a lightweight tent really and handled things well, I’ve had no issues whatsoever with leaking. Thanks for commenting 👍🏻

[@SUDUTBELUKARofficial]

Great video bro 👍 Greetings from indonesia 🤝

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks mate appreciate you watching and commenting 👍🏻👍🏻

[@DAVIDPRETA]

So whats the final verdict? Should be get the Hubba? how did perform under the rain?

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hi David, it was great. Performed very well, no leaks and held up well in what was a mini storm. Thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@pascalhibon7928]

Interesting video! I'm trying to decide between the Hubba nx1 and the Helm 1 tent. The Helm 1 is quite a bit heavier but it can be pitched inner and outer together. The Hubba is quite a bit lighter. This is where I am... which tent would you recommend out these two (for multi day backpacking)?

[@SimonOutdoors]

For multi day it has to be the MSR, the quality is good and it’s light. If you’re only going for a couple of days save some money with the helm 1 compact. Also very solid tent. Where are you planning to walk? Hope it helps! Si

[@pascalhibon7928]

@@SimonOutdoors Thank you Simon! I'm planning on hiking the TMB and/or Tour du Beafortain.

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@pascalhibon7928 no problem, good luck Pascal! Si

[@ruiseverino7609]

Hi guys just came across this video and this comment as I'm in similar situation, not sure about the MSR hubba hubba, Helm compact2 or the Sierra designs Meteor 3000 2p. Which ever Il buy will also be used for the TMB starting on the 7th of July. Any advise guys? By the way great video harsh conditions but it seems like the Hubba did great.

[@bobv7753]

Thanks for the extreme weather review. There's not much in the way of 3 season tents that can handle that kind of wind. In the time that you were in the conditions did you get any water intrusion with the MSR?

[@SimonOutdoors]

None mate! This is a UK version which has taped seems etc and all was well. Are you thinking of getting one?

[@bobv7753]

@@SimonOutdoors Thanks for the reply! I just purchased one last evening. With all of the negative feedback in other reviews of the 2019 water leak issues I was a bit concerned. I was hoping it got resolved as I really like the tent design. Really appreciate your insight & experience. Very best wishes & thanks again!!!

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@bobv7753 no problems Bob, good luck with it. Thanks for watching and commenting, much appreciated 👍🏻

[@jamesbright742]

@@SimonOutdoors Where can I get myself a UK version? And how does one tell the difference between that and other versions of it?

[@monkynutzuk]

I'm looking for a light weight tent for Wales or the peak district. This is at the top end of my budget tho. Any experience with the alpkit ordos or jaran? I hear they're let alot of wind in tho

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hi Lewis, thanks for watching and commenting mate. I have not had experience with those tents but I'm aware Alpkit are a good brand and represent good value for money. Hopefully it helps and good luck with the purchase

[@leethemiller]

nice one ......thanks for the videos iam thinking about getting the msr hubba nx 1 man or the sea to summit alto tr 1 what is the internal space like is there enough room to get changed comfortably and is the msr easy to put up fly before inner in bad weather thanks

[@SimonOutdoors]

Easy to put up yes in the scenario you describe. It's narrow and if you're tall, I'm 6'5, the length is not amazing. It is the best tent I have owned to be honest, it's narrow so not much room to change, Si

[@leethemiller]

Thanks I think Iam going to try it but may need the hubba hubba

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@leethemiller good luck with it mate, want a hubba hubba

[@samboy1007]

I’m guessing there’s no way to erect this tent in the rain without the inside getting wet? I currently have coffin tent which can be put up with the fly sheet attached so there’s no issue with water ingress. However I would prefer some more head room like you get with the msr

[@SimonOutdoors]

No as far as I can tell Sam, I’ve been on numerous trips and the amount of times I pitch in the rain is really low. And a bit of travel towel or sponge usually does the trick :)

[@theknowlodge8294]

Yea I always find that's a bigger problem than people think it is. You can erect these tents really quickly once you know what you're doing and I always take a micro fibre towel with me regardless of the weather. Normally does the trick.

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@theknowlodge8294 agree Dominic, this tent goes up really quick. Slight issue getting the fly on in the wind but otherwise all good

[@fernojake]

Love ya jacket and the colour especially, what one from rab is this and colour mate? 👌🏻

[@SimonOutdoors]

Hi Jake, thanks mate and cheers for watching, much appreciated. The one in the thumbnail is the Rab Vital cactus green

[@fernojake]

@@SimonOutdoors all good man and ty 👌🏻

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@fernojake np mate

[@justinf1343]

Thanks for sharing. Would you recommend the Hubba NX as I am looking to replace my Force 10 Helium 200 and am trying to find a tent that doesn't suffer with condensation.

[@SimonOutdoors]

It's a great tent mate, I never had issues with it leaking as some have reported so I would recommend, cheers Si

[@justinf1343]

@@SimonOutdoors Thanks Simon. Always good to get an unbiased opinion.

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@justinf1343 no problem at all mate 👍🏻

[@azclaimjumper]

How many guyout lines can be pegged out? The next morning had all the guyout lines remained taut? Did the peggs remain in the ground, get pulled out some, or did you add any heavy rocks on top of any of the pegs? If you break any plastic parts will MSR Customer Service send you replacement parts?

[@SimonOutdoors]

4, I had to check before sleep and tension again but yes, no rocks the pegs remained in the ground - note that used Wild Country pegs from my Helm 2 (the MSR Hubba ones are small and thin). I don't know if MSR will replace parts, I have never tried. I hope it helps :) Sub for more, and hit a like on the video it really helps. Thanks for watching and commenting

[@azclaimjumper]

@@SimonOutdoors I did sub & rang the notification bell. Most, if not all, ultralight weight tents need larger, stronger, heavier tent stakes, that a given. In my mind, I've not properly pitched my tent until all the guylines are staked out. I've NEVER had to get out of a warm sleeping bag because tent stakes have been pulled out of the ground. It's a soul satisfying thing to snuggle into a sleeping bag inside a tent during a cold gusty windy night as it provides "shelter" from the storm. As a Boy Scout I first learned to tie a bowline & then a tautline hitch. I've probably tied 4 times more tautline hitches than bowlines. I have absolutely no use, no need for guyout line "tensioners".

[@SimonOutdoors]

Agree with you mate, it’s also satisfying knowing you are safe. Many thanks for the sub and I hope it goes well for you 👍🏻

[@azclaimjumper]

@@SimonOutdoors I looked at some of the equipment listed in the "Description". Stoves have been greatly improved with "regulators"; the new MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe is a huge improvement on the problem-prone MSR Pocket Rocket II. The Soto is 29% more fuel efficient than the PR Deluxe, here is an article that I'm sure you will enjoy reading. Yes, the Soto is my stove & is expensive however, it puts out 11,000 btu & uses 29% less fuel than the PR Deluxe: outdooreager.com/soto-windmaster-vs-pocket-rocket-deluxe/ There is only 7mm between the flame & the bottom of a pot with the Soto Windmaster. there is 10mm between the flame & the bottom of a pot with the PR Deluxe. I'm headed out for an overnighter tomorrow morning. I'll be at 8,350' elevation. Greeting from Reno, Nevada (The Biggest Little City in the World). My tent is the REI Quarter Dome SL1 & the footprint that is designed specifically for my tent.

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@azclaimjumper great information there mate top stuff, I will certainly check out the article. I am aware of both models. In what way is the PR II problem prone? I have one and it was a huge step up from my old vango stove. Have a great trip, that really is a mountain compared to what we have over here (our tallest is around 4,400 feet)!

[@greenleafycabbage8715]

What place is that? its beautiful. Its like in my dreams

[@SimonOutdoors]

:) Sussex downs, many thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@ArbourOutdoors]

Great video mate nice to see good feedback for once on the msr tents 😁 have a good one bud

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks buddy appreciate it, take care

[@OUTDOORCRIB]

Im inspired with ur videos and cheers to your jack, new sibscriber here. And hope i can do solo camping Thanks

[@SimonOutdoors]

Many thanks mate 👍🏻 I’m glad I can be of some inspiration

[@OUTDOORCRIB]

@@SimonOutdoors tnx bro and i cant wait to do the same

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@OUTDOORCRIB 👍🏻

[@andrewbrinkman5506]

How did the nutrino 400 work out in the weather?

[@SimonOutdoors]

Was perfect Andrew, toasty warm mate

[@theknowlodge8294]

Surprised it held up tbh. But thats fair enough. The problem with these US manufactures is that they don’t understand just how windy it is in the UK under fairly ‘normal’ conditions. As such, the tents just don’t hold up as they need to. For me, Hilliberg tents are the only ones I’d trust. Especially when I have my young daughter with me. Yes they are a bout heavier, but you can mitigate against that by cutting weight elsewhere. The Allak 2 is still only around 3kg

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Dominic, I do really like MSR mostly because of this particular trip. Do you think Hilliberg are overkill for what we have here in the UK? I'm thinking a lot of them are built for snow! With a young daughter though I wouldn't hesitate to get the safest one. Many thanks for watching and commenting

[@theknowlodge8294]

@@SimonOutdoors - it's a weird one mate. We are kinda stuck between extremes in the UK because of our humid climate which means we get mainly moderate weather but it's the wind that causes the problems. I've got friends from the US who come over and stay fairly regularly and they are genuinely shocked at how wild it gets. And that can bring with it extreme cold too. So moisture management becomes a big problem. With my hiking gear, balancing breath ability and wind / rain protection is a pain. So hard to get the balance right. With tents it's the same - but in the form of condensation. That's where the Hilleberg are pretty good, I think. For 4 season tens they vent very well, but they are also the only manufacturer I totally trust when it gets really wild. But it's also why lots of people in the UK either have 2 tents, or keep constantly changing them, trying to get the balance right. That's why I like the Allak - it's roomy enough to aid with the condensation, but still passably lightweight to make it kinda practical. Lol.

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@theknowlodge8294 yeah I think you’re spot on. 50mph wind is 50mph wind and I know which tent I would rather be in when that happens. And we certainly get a bunch of those every year in the UK. I think even the lightweight models are super strong, I’m looking at an Unna and the light Akto model (can’t remember what it’s called) and I’m sure they fair pretty well. Nothing worse than worrying about your tent blowing away in high winds and we’ve been there!

[@theknowlodge8294]

@@SimonOutdoors absolutely fella. I've been on some very ropey trips and that's largely what convinced me to pony up the cash for the Hilli. I just don't feel that confident in anything else. The Akto is very popular. Seen it loads on the Hill. And the Unna - is that a lighter version of the Soulo.? Can't remember. Like I say, I like the Allak because of that extra space which helps with everything - ventilation, storage, cooking, comfort generally. But they are all very strong and reliable. Had a Terra Nova and that was bomber too tbf, just not quite enough space. And didn't like the layout on the bigger tents.

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@theknowlodge8294 I think so pretty much, slightly larger too, and cheaper slightly. I’ve got the helm 2 by TN but I wouldn’t trust it in a storm as I’ve found out!

[@jbs11]

What is that jacket?

[@SimonOutdoors]

It’s a Rab Vital mate 👍🏻

[@jasonmaddison6148]

paramo jackets mate . 270 in go outdoors , last you a lifetime .

[@SimonOutdoors]

Good shout mate, I bought and reviewed the north face quest and it seems to be holding up really well 👍🏻

[@jasonmaddison6148]

@@SimonOutdoors yep there good , you can layer up with them, got a couple they never let me down yet !!

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks mate 👍🏻

[@aln4244]

The Hubba Hubba NX tent is terrible. I just bought one, unless you use this without a rain fly in absolutely perfect dry conditions it doesn't work. It leaks like crazy. The design is terrible. Yes its easy to set up which is great. But thats it. The rain fly sticks to the mesh, even in clear conditions the condensation leaks all over you. Light shower you are in for a bad night. Don't get it!!

[@SimonOutdoors]

I would recommend it and personally have zero problems with it leaking. Which country do you reside in? I believe they may be made differently depending on location, in particular the seam sealing may be different. Si

[@pootlingalong8928]

Not my experience. The dog and I lived in an MSR Hubba Hubba NX on our Lands End to John O’Groats cycle tour 2021 - 5.5 weeks on the road, it was brilliant and kept us safe and warm through Cornish heatwaves and Scottish wind and rain storms. I’ve also got the NX solo and it is my favourite tent ever. I think there was a problem with the 2019 tents but both my MSR Hubbas have neatly taped seams 👍🏻

[@jasonmaddison6148]

do u think the bergy 3.1 would of stood up to that nite

[@SimonOutdoors]

I’m not so sure Jason, I would hope any quality branded tent would as long as it’s guyed out properly and the winds are say less than 40mph but who knows. Thanks for the support mate 👍🏻

[@roos3013]

hey Simon! :-) where did you that "Russia" hat from? greetings from Russia :-)

[@roos3013]

ah, Borussia.... sorry, man :-)

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@roos3013 no problems mate, it’s a German football team Dortmund. It’s a great hat, thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@SHDW-sy7oz]

whats that green jacket homie?

[@SimonOutdoors]

Rab windbreaker, let me have a quick check..

[@SimonOutdoors]

Rab Vital fella, it is not waterproof though! I have another jacket for that in my latest video

[@robwithdogoutdoors1438]

How do simon not sure is the hubba nx the same as the hubba hubba ? Saw this vid on how to up its wind game kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWHOnKmppt58Z68

[@ShipWreck68]

Damn it, where's all that global warming they promised us? Looks like the same England I saw over 40 years ago.

[@SimonOutdoors]

😂😂 thanks Anthony, someone could’ve told me! Take care mate, Si

[@bazzmidas]

MSR tents don’t hold up in rain.

[@SimonOutdoors]

Top tip, thanks mate

[@SimonOutdoors]

I think it was ok on this one but I could be wrong!

[@darrensurff8554]

Terra nova is best price for wind and rain

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks Darren, I would def agree :) appreciate you taking time to watch mate

[@stu7371]

I wouldn't agree I'm afraid. Bought one of the new laser compact 'all season'. Failed on first outing. One of the short poles broke in conditions similar to what you had in this video. All season didn't even last all night. Returned it, waiting for a refund. MSR Hubba might be it's replacement.

[@tommycleets5640]

Cracking video brother💪 - check out my first ever wildcamp video. Any suggestions would be great - need to start somewhere 🙌💥🇬🇧❤️

[@SimonOutdoors]

Thanks man, will take a look. Si