I have been told by the company who sent this stove that the Campingmoon XD-2F Rocket Stoves is made in China but designed for them in Japan
@jimf19642 жыл бұрын
Can’t get away from the made in china sometimes, but so long as it wasn’t patent infringement.
@bigstick52782 жыл бұрын
Just received mine today in the mail.. Totally beyond the price I paid on Aliexpress, amazing value. This has to be the best built Chinese Back Packing stove I ever bought for $25.00.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I so agree. Best stove in my collection. Thanks for commenting
@darwinmejia3692 Жыл бұрын
I have a Windmaster and MSR Deluxe, that's why I'm curious of this stove . Very detailed review thank you so much..Now I know it's a clone of the Windmaster.. The advantage of this stove is much cheaper than the original.. If you are on a budget and you like the technology of the Windmaster, this is the best alternative! Thanks again 😊
@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
@russelljackman14132 жыл бұрын
As has been mentioned by you and previous viewers, this is a knockoff of the Soto Windmaster--a wonderful camp stove. I own a Windmaster and I love it! It is very wind resistant and very quick to boil water. As you mentioned, the flame adjustability is terrific! It has been mentioned by other You Tubers, that the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe is ALSO a knock off of the Windmaster. I agree, completely with Jim F, regarding intellectual theft; I will gladly pay twice the price (or more) for authentic products, and in the process, stay miles away from unethical business practices. Thanks for another great review, Mark!
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is q polarizing topic for sure. Thanks for commenting
@carmenmartinez2882 Жыл бұрын
Well not me. Prices have to be competitive and several of these companies you’re paying for the brand. Look at the Yeti for example, I have a Stanley cooler at a fraction of the price, my friend wanted the expensive brand, camping at 92 Fahrenheit outside and even hotter inside the bear box my cooler held ice just as many days. You guys can have the “originals” I’ll settle for same performance and less $.
@g4ry Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I own the Soto Windmaster (and Amicus, Fusion Trek, ST-310 for that matter), and it is without a doubt my favorite canister-top style gas stove. I have many, many stoves, and on occasion I have bought the Chinese knock-offs as well. When I saw this one come out a year ago, I was intrigued, mostly because I have various 'Camping Moon' brand adapters that I found to be very high quality. For $30, I was curious how it would compare to the actual Windmaster that it was obviously cloning. Examining them both side-by-side, I'd say they made a half-decent stove for $30, but it fails compared to the Windmaster in a couple of key areas. 1) The pot stand: they changed the design of the burner cup outer profile, and as such, changed how the pot stand hooks onto it every so slightly. This change actually makes it much less sturdy, when compared to the Windmaster. As I like to use the 4-flex pot stand for larger pots, the stability is pretty important to me. I notice that most of the time with the camping moon version, only 3 of the pot supports actually touch the pot (by a considerable clearance) because of this extreme deflection allowed by the attachment mechanism. 2) the regulator does not work as well as the one on the Windmaster. It doesn't seem to hold a low flame nearly as well...to the point that I am planning on disassembling it (destructively if necessary) to see if there is actually functioning regulator in there! I'll admit I haven't tested it over temperature or canister fill, it just seems to not be as adjustable in direct comparison at room temp. The case, however, is nice (although unnecessarily bulky).
@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. I have also started experiencing the issue of regulating the flame at very low levels. I find when I set it, it slowly diminishes on its own. Thanks for commenting
@danielkutcher57048 ай бұрын
That stove offers great performance and looks like it would take some wind. The manufacturer could shave a few grams by only using three pot supports. Four might be good for heavy pots, but a canister-top stove probably shouldn't be used for large, heavy pot. Thanks, Mark!👍
@MarkYoungBushcraft8 ай бұрын
It would help some for sure but of course, this is not an ultralight stove in any case. First thing I would ditch is the overbuilt carry case. Thanks for commenting
@SDWNJ7 ай бұрын
You mentioned refilling canisters - Camping Moon makes a canister that is designed to be refillable (the disposable ones are not, though they can be but it is recommended to only refill to 80% capacity). Their canister holds 110 grams. It’s a bit pricey but looks to be quite sturdy. It would be a little heavier than a disposable, but safer. Maybe you could review that in the future.
@MarkYoungBushcraft7 ай бұрын
Yes, I have a video showing this cylinder as part of a Campingmoon gas lantern set. Thanks for commenting
@SDWNJ7 ай бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Cool. I’ll have to check out that video.
@happyfuntimereviews56002 жыл бұрын
I have this stove. It has replaced the BRS in my cook kit. The BRS is more than 1/3rd the weight, but is not as efficient or wind resistant. Great review as always Mark! Thank you.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Right on. It may be a bit heavier but is so efficient, it has become my go-to gas stove. Thanks for commenting
@daijoubu45292 жыл бұрын
The BRS-3000 is what I would call stupid light lol
@mikevandebunt8112 жыл бұрын
I have had a Soto Windmaster for a while now, and I absolutely love it. It came in a nylon stuff sack, and I suspect that Soto is aiming it at ultralight campers (gram counters). That nice case with yours must weigh almost as much as the stove itself.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Likely true. Easy enough to ditch this case though. Thanks for commenting
@oil-change Жыл бұрын
Thank you. this is the only video about XD-2f.
@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for commenting
@patfinn88592 жыл бұрын
Nice stove. I have a pocket rocket msr and love it. Good video!
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
@hypo3452 жыл бұрын
Welcome to modern gas stoves Mark. I hope this is licensed by SOTO, I have the windmaster and it’s a great stove along with its slightly smaller sibling the Amicus. If remote stoves are to peoples liking SOTO do the Fusion Trek, a windmaster on legs. If one uses a heat exchanger style pot it’s an even more efficient use of gas and a bit quicker. The carry case looks really nice.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I will look it up. I may be testing a Fire Maple remote stove with gas regulator. Thanks for commenting
@northwind74092 жыл бұрын
Hi. My name is Mike and I'm a stoveaholic. Mark, I guess that makes you an enabler. The features of this stove at a low price makes room for it in my stove fleet. I think it would be interesting to do a comparison video on pots. New pot vs fire-blackened, materials (SST vs Ti vs anodized Al), and factory coatings, as you showed on the Sea to Summit pot.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Think of all the money I am saving you from spending on useless stuff😅. I have done a clean VS sooty pot video but may consider another. Thanks for commenting
@northwind74092 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft What do you mean 'saving'? I ordered it before my first comment.
@brucematys85972 жыл бұрын
That looks like a nice stove Mark. I have never used a gas canister stove, but recently I have been thinking about trying one. I haven't been seriously looking but I definitely like some of the features of this one. Like you I prefer wood stoves and have used alcohol stoves. And we get fire bands here in Ontario as well, so this makes sense and if it speeds up the time it takes to make my "Java" all the better! Cheers my friend.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
What ever it takes to make the coffee😅. We are having more "no burn" days than before. Thanks for commenting
@bigstick52782 жыл бұрын
The stove is more close to the MSR which is a close copy of the SOTO, the SOTO part is the pot stand. The stem and igniter is MSR. Bought one of these from Aliexpress, should be in the mailbox in another few days.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Right on. Thanks for commenting
@terryw.milburn85652 жыл бұрын
Fair Price & Great Performer, Thanks Mark. Have A Swell Weekend ! ATB T God Bless
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting Terry
@Winnie1224592 жыл бұрын
Nice stove with some great features
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed! Thanks for commenting
@northwind95052 жыл бұрын
This is a game changer. First time hearing one that doesn't sound like a jet! Lol Mark , will you be reviewing the Firebox Scout? It reminds me of the Ikea Hobo stove. It has my attention along with the price.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I have the FB Scout but am waiting till the fire band ends before testing. Yes, I see it as a purchasable version of the Ikea Hobo. Thanks for commenting
@shawnr61172 жыл бұрын
Nice 😁 You should test it with a mug pot, like the Stanley from your recent video, not a full review just 2-3 minutes would be enough, because a lot of people who'd buy this stove that's all they really carry .
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
So, I took your suggestion and used a 750ml titanium mug. Boil time was 1:55. Slower but still pretty good. I could see some flame wrapping the sides. Less surface area in contact with the flame. Thanks for commenting
@shawnr61172 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft good to know thanks 😁
@hardrockhaha Жыл бұрын
Check out Campingmoon Z01 stove stand when you have time, it works great with XD-2F or windmaster.
@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Will do. Thanks for commenting
@taber2473 күн бұрын
I ordered from AliExpress but " logistics " supply problems, it was dispatched then returned to supplier, ment they refunded me rather than resupply, very odd. I shall reorder soon though. Wildsea stove @£5.39 has a Triflex removable pot stand, eager to find out if the stands are compatible. = Two stoves with two stands smaller dia.3 leg support and 4 leg larger diameter support. Thanks again for sharing.
@MarkYoungBushcraft3 күн бұрын
I must check to see about the Triflex stand. Would make the stove a bit more versatile. Thanks for commenting
@patriciaribaric34092 жыл бұрын
I am curious about the fire bans you experience. How are you notified of these bans? omg you have the best toys!!! I have to know about that pan you are cooking with (pb bread). Gotta see more of that. I love the name of that stove "Camping Moon." Seems like they chose that name to attract us feminine spirits. Got a call from my nephew this morning who lives with my 96 year old mom. Their electricity goes out often, and I had to send coffee. This product would be awesome for their house.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
So many questions😂. I am using my Sea to Summit set to bake the bread. Video on the set and on the bread coming. Fire bans in Nova Scotia are a bit convoluted. Between March 15th and October 15th each year we have a fire bans season. No fires are permitted every day between 8am-2pm. At 2pm an update is provided that will allow fires the rest of the day (green), fires after 7pm-8am (yellow) or no fires 2pm-8am (red). There is a website that we can go to for updates. Hope this helps
@carmenmartinez2882 Жыл бұрын
I’m in California, you’ll see the signs as you enter a campground, on off roads and even on mountain highways, if a ban changes while you’re camping either the camp host will tell you or perhaps the rangers, it is your responsibility to make sure you’re aware of the signs as conditions can change from day to day, fires only in designated areas and is a huge fine not obeying. If you’re careless and cause a forest fire you can be criminally charged and do jail time.
@sirdee96072 жыл бұрын
Nice stove my friend
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@9abe94 ай бұрын
Did yours smell of burnt plastic when you started using it? Mine arrived a few days ago, and now it smells after being used. I saw some smoke coming from the burner
@MarkYoungBushcraft4 ай бұрын
Strange. I don't recall the burning plastic smell on mine. Wonder if there was something inside the unit. Did it clear up after use?
@9abe94 ай бұрын
@MarkYoungBushcraft the wierd thing is, it started smelling after a couple of days using it. I even thought I might have dropped a plastic piece over the burner, but when I saw smoke coming out of it, It really seemed to come from inside. The only part I can think of that is made of plastic is the wire of the piezo igniter. If that is the culprit, I'm hoping it burns but keeps working. So far, it is working a 100%, which is good, because the thing is amazing!
@jetodeocampo90722 жыл бұрын
i have this stove and its quite hard to source out here. There is another stove (less than $7) that uses the triplex pot support and it fits quite nicely on this campingmoon...so you get the quad pot support and the triplex...
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Do you happen to know the name of the $7.00 stove? Thanks for commenting
@jetodeocampo90722 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I will take a video of both stoves. Not sure if the other stove is available in your area...or via alibaba or amazon.
@jetodeocampo90722 жыл бұрын
Here is the video of the two stoves... kzbin.infoQuK-sHhmpz4?feature=share
@marcusmingfang Жыл бұрын
SOTO Wind Master: 2800 kcal/h 3260w 11,000 BTU; 67 g / 2.3 oz; 64.95 USD vs Cm XD 2F: 2760 kcal/h 3300w 11,260 BTU ; 92 g 3.2 oz; 34.80 USD
@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@jaspurr617310 ай бұрын
The only 'down' side, (and you made no comment) is the 'case' looks pretty 'raw & dry" you need to spray the case with silicone and let it dry, then repeat, then you should be good to go.
@MarkYoungBushcraft10 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@peterjessop18782 жыл бұрын
So I guess this is a Soto windmaster copy or Soto stove that is just made in China rather than Japan?
@peterjessop18782 жыл бұрын
Haha sorry Mark I should have watched the whole video before commenting.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
You are pretty much right on. Thanks for commenting
@wahyueko305 Жыл бұрын
sorry sir but is this really equipped with a gas regulator feature? because on the official website there is no mention of it.
@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Yes, this model is has a gas pressure regulator, despite what the website says
@bakayagi2 жыл бұрын
This small stove is very strong in flame, but The Rotary Switch (valve) of My XD-2F is very loose at the first twist, almost no friction ? Is yours the same ?
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your experience with the stove. I just checked my stove to see if it had the same issue. My valve appears fairly tight with no looseness at all and turns very smoothly.
@bakayagi2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your confirm, I've read a review in amazon and 2 comments in Aliexpress, they had the same issue with me. Maybe their quality control is not good. I've heard this brand export mostly for Japan Market although it's China brand. I really like their design and quality, especially the adapters and connectors for camping stove, very solid and feel good in quality.
@kelimaxxx Жыл бұрын
yes, mine is like that too the same happened with firemaple polaris that use the same micro regulator like this stove maybe just some short of safety mechanism
@bigstick52782 жыл бұрын
Mark, How do you like those collapsible pots?
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I have a recent video on my Sea to Summit set if you are interested. Thanks for commenting
@carmenmartinez2882 Жыл бұрын
I have the GSI collapsable and absolutely love them they come with heat exchanger and excellent nonstick on the bottom which I personally like, last thing I want to do while camping is scrubbing pots or wasting water if I’m dry camping. The lids are hard anodized and I think they’re way better, I’ve cooked plenty in them and I’m happy.
Yes it does. Works well in cold and when the tank is almost empty. Thanks for commenting
@jeffm58082 жыл бұрын
i have a soto windmaster looks like a direct copy .
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. Just a few differences. Thanks for commenting
@charlesseelye35282 жыл бұрын
Will this work with propane using a canister adapter ?
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I assume so. I don't have an adapter yet but it is the standard connection. Thanks for commenting
@Linus0079 ай бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft thank you for your excellent review of this stove. I would be interested in your results with propane. Some of the butane regulators do not like the propane pressure. I came up with a solution to lower propane down to butane pressures. Butane pressure is about two bars. This video shows how I did that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2asaniEhK6noqcsi=67MTncmv-N6MT5XQ Hopefully your regulator does the same thing for propane. Again, I really liked your review.
@charlesfaulkner86532 жыл бұрын
Where does this ship from Mark?
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I believe it ships from China through Amazon. Mine arrived quite quickly. Thanks for commenting
@jimf19642 жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of Chinese intellectual theft. Occasionally though, they charge so much from other places that that it’s a bit ridiculous. I have to say though that the small issue of waste with these cans has become a big annoyance to me. That can had to have minerals mined, processed and shipped, then made into steel, shipped to be made into a can, shipped to where it’s filled, shipped to the store. It may be cheap, but that’s all high energy, high polluting. Then it’s used for a couple hours, and in most cases thrown out. Perhaps recycled, but that too is a high energy process, using most of the same stuff listed above. Not that big a deal to me, because, though I am concerned about pollution, I don’t buy into the global warming stuff. However, so many of the camping channels have people that do, yet for the sake of a tiny convenience, they don’t seem to care. Like what? They want the world fixed, but they can’t be bothered to fill a fuel can? Seriously? They just want the government to magically fix it with not one little tiny thing they’ve done? It’s supposed to be us in control, not them. Plus it’s never free when they do it. Not to mention what you said at the beginning that you have to carry that darn can around, and when it’s like 1/4 full, do you carry 2, or throw it out and take a full one? Nah. These were popular for a while when I was young, and they went away because of this. Don’t see a reason for them to make a big comeback
@darthkek19532 жыл бұрын
I do agree, I'd never not use an alcohol stove as my main stove - but I don't live in somewhere that gets many fire bans. I understand gas if you're through-hiking in fire-ban trails but I really don't get people choosing to make so much waste when it's not necessary (e.g. the fetish for UK hill walkers/campers to use them at on 300 meter high hills in slightly damp conditions). It's like a billionaire who'd buy a standard family sedan every day and set fire to it at the end of the day after using it for a couple of miles... just because you CAN afford to make that waste doesn't mean you SHOULD make that waste.
@jimf19642 жыл бұрын
@@darthkek1953 Yeah, exactly. It’s become one of those minor things that sort of become a symbol to me of a larger issue. Like I know they can be refilled, but the majority of people won’t, and to be honest, the majority of people should not be refilling them, as it it potentially very dangerous.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
No argument from me Jim. That is the reason I have not used gas stoves much in the past. I plan to refill the canisters to help mitigate the impact and save a bit of money as well
@jimf19642 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yeah for sure. Refilling would change it a ton. Much less waste, and no worrying about bringing half full cans etc….but there are a lot of people out there that I wouldn’t want to see doing that because of safety reasons, and I’m willing to bet that almost all the young people I was referring to will never try.
@hypo3452 жыл бұрын
All fuel needs energy and resources to make and transport and store. These canisters can be recycled but they need to be depressurised and pierced (certainly in the UK) before putting in recycling with something like the Jetboil crunchit.