Campus Protests: Culture War Or Civil War?

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The Philosophy of Campus Protests: Can Students Change History?
College students at places like Columbia, UCLA, and other universities across the United States have made national news for their recent protest actions. But can events like this actually change history? Are these students carrying on the legacy of civil rights, anti-war, and anti-apartheid protestors? Or is the media right in portraying them as over zealous and without clear goals? We'll try to figure it out in this video on the recent campus protests.
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[@alexwixom4599]

When you think of History Repeating itself, you think of people being ignorant of the past. Rather, we should be more concerned that the badguys can learn just as much to ensure History Repeats itself, giving them a second chance.

[@authenticinquiry]

Excellent point. They use history and weaponize it.

[@Tacom4ster]

Conservatives are too uneducated, actually hates education, so don't worry that much

[@degreeskelvin3025]

This! They know just as much as we do and know to learn from their mistakes. I feel like that's what wage slavery is: just an evolved form of slavery/feudalism that avoids the pitfalls of it's predecessors by keeping the people pacified through consumerism

[@darkshadowrule2952]

And I used to think the whole ignorant of history thing was because people weren't even trying to learn the real history of things, but like now, seeing it in real time? Like we gotta do everything we can just to make sure that history doesn't get distorted as it's being written

[@deadbeatSad]

I've often said the same thing after studying the Alt Right. Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do learn from history, are destined to replicate it. No matter who you are or your stances, you're going to repeat and replicate history.

[@leonmckoy7632]

This is exactly why the term “college kids” has always felt weird and most definitely infantilizing

[@TenMillionYearProgram42]

In fairness most of them are dependent on their parents during school, so they're not really independent adults yet. I think the name is appropriate. They're legal adults but not independent yet, so kids it is. Also, prefrontal cortexes and such.

[@richardlyman2961]

A title which progressives rush to embrace when they are involved in sexual contact with older people.. they are clearly not fully formed adults yet and often make decisions that will haunt them with regret for decades

[@thisdudegotreal]

@@TenMillionYearProgram42 By that logic all rich kids lack independent prefrontal nudity.

[@TenMillionYearProgram42]

@@thisdudegotreal yes.

[@QuietlyHere666]

​​​@@TenMillionYearProgram42 many adults are dependent on their parents for things like housing and medical insurance, living under a brutal economic system doesn't make you any less an adult. If they can be sent into armed combat then they're an adult that deserves the respect and dignity as such (Also, many people go back to school, not all collage attendees are fresh out of high-school)

[@sentientbakedziti]

"Be realistic. Demand the impossible." Goes so fucking hard

[@jordanthompson8268]

Typical communists lauding contradictions as if they're something to aspire towards.

[@LonkinPork]

Maybe it's the fact that I live in a very conservative part of Canada, but I'm seeing a lot of people that are proud of not going to college, verbally bashing the student protestors. I don't think that's coincidence.

[@lornm1856]

Good why go to collages funded by islamists

[@belmiris1371]

I understand being envious of people who can afford college. I don't understand the support for the political parties that made education unaffordable. I think that is classed as 'being stupid'.

[@BloodSplatterArtist]

Because the protestors are wrong and a liberal arts degree isn't the badge of honor or ticket to life success it was in the boomer generation. No reason they can't be proud to have found their own avenue to success without crippling debt and useless indoctrination.

[@nada3131]

@@belmiris1371And it’s also worth noting that while expensive (and very variable) university is still way more affordable in Canada than in the US

[@crabman732]

Conservatives are generally proud of being uneducated

[@Douglas_Props]

4:53 to Skip the ad

[@MrsShirotora]

The most "unrealistic" situation I ever found myself in was the aftermath of a natural disaster in a small US Southern city. The whole county had no power for a week or more and there was no chaos. People immediately took it upon themselves to start clearing roads, cleaning up debris, checking on neighbors. Like, our whole ZIP Code had a community meeting with a potluck lunch that we all somehow assembled having no electricity. It was so the local politicians could put in an appearance and you could find a representative of your insurance company to talk to - but clearly there was no logistical reason that meetings for community meals and democratic self-organization are impossible. The difference between a normal day and a disaster response is the illusion of control.

[@peterthegreat996]

Because functioning adults were there

[@joeyj6808]

The media grabbed the narrative after Katrina, but the facts on the ground were of Mutual Aid in disaster - people helping their neighbors. Some of us remember the reality.

[@jahliafinney707]

On one of the episodes of behind the bastards, they thoroughly discussed this phenomenon. Essentially, when disaster strikes, people are more likely to assemble into multiple prosocial groups(with the goal to rescue survivors, clean up debris, make sure people have food) than devolve into lawless monsters.

[@joeyj6808]

@@jahliafinney707 Nice to meet a Crooked Zone Media afficianado out there in the wild!

[@armorclasshero2103]

​@@peterthegreat996only when the politicians weren't

[@data-dylan]

A true liberal applauds all the past protests and condemns all the current ones.

[@17-MASY]

Watch Second thought's "The Most dangerous thing in the western hemisphere"

[@spht9ng]

@@17-MASYsecond thought is a tankie that supports babies being killed on October 7th. He said the babies were settlers so they deserved it. Really it’s Marxists that are most dangerous to the west. Not liberals

[@SageWon-1aussie]

It's like young people have the energy and idealism to engage in activism.

[@Petch85]

They still believe in change and still have an imagination.... But give it a little time and they will be numb like the rest of us. 😵

[@pierzing.glint1sh76]

​@@Petch85 yes...tHe trick is it to make a difference before life gets in the way of a greater purpose

[@Petch85]

@@pierzing.glint1sh76 yer... But even when you see change, the change is often super slow and it oscillates. You just see the same thing again and again and it just gets old.

[@pierzing.glint1sh76]

@Petch85 just do your bit before you have to get a regular job like everyone else.

[@ernimuja6991]

And the naivety and impressionability to be pushed to do so.

[@rodylermglez]

History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

[@gordonsulc8319]

Mao's cultural revolution.

[@arandomlemon6707]

​@@gordonsulc8319evangelism

[@revwolfe]

@@gordonsulc8319…has vanishingly few parallels to the current situation, unless you view history through a funhouse mirror lens?

[@QuietlyHere666]

​​@@revwolfe they might be wanting that period of history to rhyme

[@gordonsulc8319]

@@revwolfe Nah. You just have to not be an idiot. I'm sorry that's difficult for you.

[@dimasrahardja]

When human rights can be packaged as politics without question, whether people deserve to live with rights and dignity becomes just a matter of opinion.

[@isaac1670]

As I've gotten older, I've realized that most people/institutions don't really believe in human rights. I applaud those who stand up for them.

[@Gettothegone]

History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes. Same thing happened during Vietnam. College kids protested on campuses while the working class fought in the actual war. Their protesting is admirable but a larger class based movement is needed to pit power against power.

[@VLADICADIDA]

@@isaac1670 The funny thing there is that societies, or countries, or should I say nation-states, have OBLIGED themselves (in terms of how we agreed treaties function, or what the sources of law are) to adhere to rules and norms that guarantee certain rights to individuals as a matter of national and international law. It is, therefore, not a question of belief but of obligations. However, there is always this notion of belief involved when we talk about human rights. Imagine saying or thinking (and acting upon it) "I believe that taxes are bullshit" and simply living in line with that thought. I believe that sooner, rather than later, someone would tell you to pay up. Unfortunately, with human rights, unlike with taxes, we always need to remain vigilant and fight for the respect thereof. Things can go south quite easily and quickly.

[@treefrog3349]

Bravo! I love it when wisdom emerges amidst the din.

[@isaac1670]

@@VLADICADIDA You're right, and I'm not arguing against the defense of human rights. I wasn't as clear as I should've been, but I was trying to point out that the legal obligation to defend human rights doesn't mean much if the people who agreed to defend them doesn't defend them. That's why I have so much respect for the protesters. They are calling out the institutions out on their hypocrisy.

[@intellectually_lazy]

everything is political, just as everything is philosophical. if you think not, you're defaulting to the politics of the status quo

[@Marta1Buck]

Have you read it somewhere? That is beautiful 😮

[@fouadmaghamez7101]

Man I have just posted this on social media, the last time I posted anything maybe 3 years ago when I was high. I am totally sober now, and find this absolutly spot on

[@BladeTrain3r]

Indeed that big dump I left in the toilet this morning was very political.

[@pootispencer9765]

Ironically, yes - and it's a good example! Somebody has to regulate toilets, sewers, water treatment, etc. Even the shitter has social, political, and economic implications - just ask the people who've experienced life without porcelain poo catchers! It's absurd, but politics is always involved at some level. Does that mean the toilet is politically significant? Not if they're working okay. People get the most politically involved when something really isn't working right, like our tax dollars being funneled into messed up arms programs which are more concerned with making dough off tragedies than defending the country, or taxes being pointlessly overcomplicated.​ Hope you have a great day! @@BladeTrain3r

[@fouadmaghamez7101]

@@BladeTrain3r Ironically, being stupid also is very political

[@tomzimny7408]

My controversial opinion: people shouldn't assault other people

[@chinstrappenguin6603]

Maybe it would be wise for you to condemn the counter-protestors then

[@dalekrenegade2596]

​@@chinstrappenguin6603Exactly.

[@tomzimny7408]

Counter-protesters, I condemn you! 💪

[@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield]

​@@tomzimny7408 now, the thought needs to be considered.... How much do we condemn the counter protestors? Enough to assault them? Is it logical to, being aware of history and clear patterns of those in authority and power, simply assume, given all the available data, non violence was never an option, because that's is the default response, inevitably, of those types.... What changes with non violence? Non violent protestors die, are injured, jailed, and maybe, maybe a token effort is made for change. Yeah I'm sure George Floyd would be SO PLEASED that the BLM movement got aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben canceled. Just..... Thoughts... Reflection upon patterns and history.

[@maurofranklim5533]

The violence of the oppressed is not the same as the violence of the oppressor

[@ErutaniaRose]

I think one of the major benefits of college that people almost never get again, is having a walkable city. They def have accessibility issues, some better than others, but the point is that you don't have to have a CAR just to survive! That combined with more time for exploring various topics and your own mind with a diverse group of people is a recipe for understanding, activism, and positive change. I'm not gonna say colleges are perfect little communities, gods no, but they are built in a far more human-centric way where it is generally easier to bond with fellow human beings and really think about what you want and believe in.

[@BlueHooloovoo]

It was that way. Then, social media came along and destroyed the whole bonding with other human beings.

[@ErutaniaRose]

I definitely think the force of social media was apart of it, but it was more so a tool to fulfill interaction and replace in human interaction as in person amenities and structures were torn down for freaking highways and 6 land stroads. 'Cause if it was just social media, that puts the blame on people for interacting online and having internet addictions instead of the legitimate systemic issues that caused people to become so isolated and go online to fill the void. @@BlueHooloovoo

[@Joshua.David02]

Meh, than they all turn to angry communists

[@jonahsahn]

The whole part at the end about infantilizing college kids, just as Hillary Clinton goes on TV and infantilizes college kids.

[@crisgetcrucified6972]

​@@too1leasytheir whining prevented your grandpa from dying in Vietnam, or becoming a child killer.

[@crisgetcrucified6972]

​@@too1leasythat whining prevented your grandpa from dying in Vietnam, or becoming a child murderer.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

​@@too1leasy No that would be the Israel supporters.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@too1leasy Yes "idiots" peacefully protesting and your lot screaming your heads off about "anti-Semitism" when your not attacking these people.

[@Dangic23]

Class war. All previous college protests ended up with positive changes. That’s why higher ups are freaking out.

[@kintsugi6235]

Indeed 🔥

[@CrazyMama75]

Very true. Additionally, surveys have shown for a little while now that younger generations are shifting more to the political left, are more critical of assumed political and cultural "norms" and are more likely to be openly disenfranchised from capitalist lies. Which makes the youth especially a threat to the parties in power. They know that the baby boomers, their largest voter group, are not going to be around for much longer and that younger voters aren't replacing them at the same rate, meaning they'll try to secure their authority while they can still pretend to hide behind democracy.

[@TenMillionYearProgram42]

Nope. They like the protests VERY much, trust it.

[@jerben9462]

​@jonjonzz42 could you elaborate a little?

[@gordonsulc8319]

@@jerben9462 Who do you think is paying for it and why?

[@0mikr0n]

The French knew what they were doing, way back when.

[@OutlawMaxV]

Comes with long history of fantastic philosophers I guess

[@willjapheth23789]

Discovering a way for young people to be annoying but accomplish nothing?

[@jjmail1971]

Even now. They know how to take to the streets when the regime oversteps.

[@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield]

​@@willjapheth23789 guillotines accomplish not nothing.

[@TooGumbica]

Yeah, they were "keys of the state" (banks, police, rich...) revolting against monarchy. They couldnt vote them out, you can. And if you dont agree so much with the state ur in, change the state.

[@klutterkicker]

As an ageing guy, let me just say that college students really do have so much energy.

[@FacterinoCommenterino]

Today's Fact: In 2011, a man in Texas successfully fought a traffic ticket by arguing that the sign prohibiting parking was written in Comic Sans font, which he claimed was not a legally recognized font.

[@Comicbroe405]

That's cool. Thanks

[@intricatic]

I'm going to use that argument next time I get arrested for indecent exposure. It's so weirdly shaped that it's not a legally recognized, well... you know.

[@snooopledinkeroo]

That’s not even true tho. One google search shows you jus made that up

[@snooopledinkeroo]

Obvious AI/Bot account idk how you haven’t gotten banned yet

[@Teethmafia]

@@snooopledinkeroo that’s the real fact of today.

[@squeakypickles]

I was just thinking "Wisecrack hasn't uploaded in a bit" on my walk this morning lmao perfect timing!

[@abbasaliasgarrampurwala6758]

I think your thoughts may turn true ngl 💀💀

[@yaelo22]

MMMM... importing the Intifada to American soil may not be the best thing. also the thought that if only there wasn't a jewish state from the river to the sea all of the world's problems will be solved is highly anti-semitic.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Sorry bud, fighting for liberation from Israel is not anti-Semitic no matter how much you guys dishonestly twist the message.

[@DrizzyB]

Bro being against the bombing of innocent people is not antisemetic. It's quite literally just being against the bombing of innocent people. Nobody wants anything bad to happen to any Israelis, because nobody deserves to be bombed or anything

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@DrizzyB It is extremely difficult to feel any sympathy towards the Israelis at this point though.

[@DAM1443]

​@@dalekrenegade2596 My genuine question is, what the world would do with all the israelí citizens if they are forced to leave the country and the palestinian state is established from the river to the sea?... Who have to take them as refugees?.

[@Double_D__]

Boomers when they were in college: *Protesting the Vietnam War and for civil rights* "We will not be silent!" Boomers when modern kids protest genocide: "Shut the fuck up! We weren't this willful during _our_ college years! You don't even know what you're talking about!!"

[@bturtu405]

Palastinians are the only people that going through gencide but keep still growing as a population Israel really sucks at this genocide thing

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@bturtu405 Cope.

[@vVAstrAVv]

I mean. Didnt anti vietnam protesters litterally take a dean hostage or something. They were in a way MORE radical than the ones today. Mostly cus the current generation is aware enough of history to avoid the use of the national guard. Cus when they get called in even passers by are gonna get domed

[@stevecinneide8183]

the fact that the idiot who runs WiseCrack "liked" your defamatory post about Israel shows just how worthless WiseCrack really is. Hope you both lose your jobs.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

It's 2024! Haven't we already learned this lesson before? God damn, violently cracking down on non-violent student protests has ALWAYS been the wrong move and a violation of rights.

[@richardlyman2961]

Tresspassing is a form of violence

[@iExploder]

@@richardlyman2961The students paid to be there.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

@@richardlyman2961 It literally isn't. Not in the United States at least. It is generally considered a nonviolent infraction punishable by a fine.

[@gordonsulc8319]

Either you've learned nothing from Mao's cultural revolution, or you have and are trying to bring it here. We will resist the tyranny of American Maoists.

[@arandomlemon6707]

​@@gordonsulc8319we have them, they're called evangelicals, they're armed and love voting against the common good. The protests are figuring out against the pro-war propaganda and fabrication of consent

[@Ford_prefect_42]

I mean in college your main purpose is learn, use your brain for ideas and expand your existence. Yes you might also have a job or other interests but your purpose is education and thinking. The rest of us only serve our capitalistic over lords and don't have time to work all day, take care of the kids, do the dishes, and somehow ponder the existential issues of society before bed. We should listen when colleges speak up

[@sw0rdf1sh2326]

That’s why we need unions and civic organizations. If there’s no space in society for those issues to be considered, or the time to do so, can we really call this “democracy” in a substantive sense?

[@ShacklefordR]

Sometimes it does seem like we live in a fiefdom minus the dysentery

[@arc4859]

College students today are children who haven’t experienced the real world

[@RasmusVJS]

@@sw0rdf1sh2326 The problem is less with their being few options for political engagement, and more that people don't have the time and energy for them because of the way modern society is structured.

[@Ford_prefect_42]

@@arc4859 what is the "real world"? If you're taking about jobs and paying rent, some of these legal adults have been doing that since they were 16. The real world is not supposed to be a 9-5 job and capitalist activities. It's supposed to be philosophy and humanity. They're more in the "real world" than you or I are

[@thomasoconnell2150]

Not sure if Michael’s gonna read this, but here goes Hi Michael, funny you mentioned WashU. I’m from St. Louis and what I’ve heard the last week about the protests there are crazy. I’m not a student there, but it’s a shitshow. Students and others who joined the protest made a camp and campus police arrested over a 100 people including Jill stein. WashU then put up fencing. Doesn’t help that the campus is a private university. They also moved the protests to SLU and then outside of forest park. If you read this, dive into WashU and the protest last week. It’s nuts what happened.

[@richardjulien3345]

This city is full of braindead liberals

[@fernandohernandezcubillo1933]

As a latino, I think the student movements in Latin America in the 70s and on, would be good cases yo analyze when talking about this yopic and this video

[@peterthegreat996]

See October of 1968…makes Kent state seem mild

[@fernandohernandezcubillo1933]

@@peterthegreat996 Tlatelolco is precisely what I had in mind

[@michaelhammer6131]

I am typically a huge fan of this channel’s work and even found the analysis of college protest to be quite interesting. However I think it is incredibly dangerous to pretend that the current protest fit neatly with the paradigm of past protests. In no past protest has the persecution of a minority been so prevalent. As a visibly Jewish Columbia student I was threatened and told I was not welcome at the university or even in America. Even students not at all tied to the Zionist movement have been threatened simply for wearing kippas. These protest cannot be analyzed with ambivalence to “the Jewish question”.

[@dropyourself]

I thought it was illegal to lie on the Internet. You know if only someone could record this interaction because the only "anti-semitism" mainstream media is able to show is a single Zionists not being let into an encampment. These students have been disciplined in their messaging and explicitly against anti-semitism so all you can do is make stuff up. Also are you calling all of the Jewish supporters anti-semitic?

[@brady9592]

Lots of Jewish students are an active part in organizing these protests, including at Colombia, and are in no way unwelcome. This is your only comment on here, but granting you’re a real person and commenting in good faith, what happened to you is an edge case and should be outright condemned. If you want to be part of protest, you should absolutely be welcomed and raise issues like being threatened to leadership/admin. By all serious accounts, these protests have been by and large peaceful, disciplined, conducted with support from faculty and with a sensitivity to not letting anti-semitism seep into a protest centered on the cessation of unjust killing/destruction.

[@ZxZ239]

I remember US supports EVERY SINGLE STUDENT PROTESTS OVERSEAS, every single one.....​And the more violence the most Chaos the more support from US. But i guess when the peaceful one come to US....​Attitude is literally a 180.

[@trouserarmadillo8616]

You just made that up

[@simplethings3730]

I think the US is only vaguely aware of protests overseas. The same way it is only vaguely aware of the plot in movies involving guns and fast cars.

[@ashtonturner2862]

Human beings are doomed to repeat the same mistake over and over again.

[@HalfJapMarine]

Cycle breakers of trauma exist

[@stifflermclovin]

the three generations cycle

[@armorclasshero2103]

Only if the rich don't get eaten

[@User24x]

When the only people in a society with free time are college students...

[@calebsmith7179]

If only the rest of society could get more free time too.

[@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield]

And they really don't. That this can be said with any truth is evidence of the systems' intentional imperative and deliberate design to prevent anyone that could say anything against the status quo, from doing so. That our society, and governments' default desired position for its' citizenry, is already beneath the boot, "lucky" to even have any capacity to breathe.... Is that not a declaration of war issued by that which is considered "authority" against "We The People"?

[@beleden1215]

And the homeless

[@koat1153]

lol no, these kids were using their study periods and exam periods for this. Maybe some had JUST started summer. Any college kid who is trying to pass and get a job doesn’t have “free time”.

[@somekats]

Even then they have hardly any especially if they gotta work too 😅🙃everyone’s fucked we all deserve more rest and free time to live our life outside of our job imo

[@MA-cs2ty]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@JeroenDoes]

Sorry but colloge is really not a place to meet people from different backgrounds. If anything it is one of of the biggest social bubbles out there. Only for those with the money, drive and skill to attend.

[@martinpat94]

What I’m worried about is that this is gonna lead to even more defunding of education and continue to make it even more exclusive to the rich

[@belmiris1371]

That can only go so far. Right now the rich are brain draining the 'lower' classes by giving them high paying jobs helping to destroy the world. When that spigot dries up, some very smart people will have a lot of time on their hands and have no love for the elite. The elite, as always, get more inbred and worthless with every generation.

[@RedPhoenix550]

If this is what "education" brings then "education" should be replaced immediately.

[@martinpat94]

@@RedPhoenix550 what the execution of one’s constitutional rights?

[@belmiris1371]

@@RedPhoenix550 Yes. We should all be like you and gobble down whatever fecal matter mainstream news or fascist leaders feed us. Stay asleep, Obey. You're worthless.

[@BloodSplatterArtist]

An art history major from Columbia should be exclusive to the rich.

[@gemusefachlummel6467]

It's difficult for me to judge this: On the one hand I fully support the criticism of the entanglement of universities within the war industry. On the other hand I just can't believe that the progressive, feminist and liberal Students either openly support or at least be silent about patriarchal, regressive religious zealots. I live in Germany and it's unbearable to see how Jewish students are under attack just because they happend to be Jewish and thus the enemy

[@SockTaters]

The right of the Palestinian people to life and dignity doesn't need to be earned. Backwards beliefs by some or most Palestinians doesn't justify anything done against them.

[@llla8125]

@@SockTaters this is not at all what the user was talking about

[@SockTaters]

@@llla8125 They criticize the anti-zionist protestors by saying, "on the other hand I just can't believe that the progressive, feminist and liberal Students either openly support or at least be silent about patriarchal, regressive religious zealots," as if that's relevant to the issue the protestors are protesting. This is just like people who responded to George Floyd's murder by saying, "he was no angel". Some people refuse to care about oppression unless there's a 'perfect victim', and that's wrong.

[@Anverse-14]

​@@llla8125no, that's exactly what the user is talking about. They're being conflicted about some student protestors being pro-hamas, and Palestinians who are actually being slaughtered like cows in Gaza They're being self-serving as hell.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

​@@Anverse-14 Spot on.

[@TomPortegys]

Protesting the war is one thing. Antisemetism is another. You can't expect schools to tolerate that on campus.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

You have to actually prove that happening first.

[@dfui.]

Free the US from AIPAC

[@simplethings3730]

But all that lovely money!!!

[@krimichifa8025]

It's not about idealistic ideas in their head. What they are defending is reality. There is a genocide and it's a fact. No one can deny it anymore. These students are defending basic human rights to live. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@TheKidWunder]

i for one support you getting the miller light sponsorship. get your buzz on man!

[@TenMillionYearProgram42]

Pißwasser

[@1IGG]

As German who doesn't speak French, your pronunciation hurts my soul. Be strong my French brothers. That being said, great video.

[@kekikyavuz]

I read this with the german accent

[@princesscherry5217]

9:45

[@FeiFongWang]

French is a waste of time

[@LilFeralGangrel]

French Canadian here and my ears are bleeding.

[@alcoke1208]

Dynamutee shloompa

[@getnohappy]

Protesting the Iraq war (and later tuition fees) has left me with mixed feelings about student protests. Especially beyond the initial surge. I was against a pointless war but didn't like eventually marching alongside angry old Tankies waving USSR flags (half my family fled Stalin after all) or Islamists calling for death to all infidels. No you cannot judge a protest by its worst minority of members, but I saw a lot of people get a little too into that side of things to easily give my full support.

[@Anverse-14]

So you're just a coward? Your moral beliefs is defined by others behaviour rather than yourself?

[@chrischin_94]

​@@Anverse-14Guilt by association. I wouldn't wanna be seen with deplorables either

[@dmwalker24]

It is neither culture war, nor civil war, and the terms 'anarchy' and 'revolution' are not mutually exclusive. Actual anarchism is genuinely revolutionary. This isn't culture war in the current use of that term, because movements for justice and equality are not a distraction to keep the masses fighting among themselves. This isn't civil war, because the opposition is a significantly smaller fringe element, with no established military, who are in many cases being supported and directed by another country.

[@ixiahj]

I'm pretty sure these protests are artificial. Multiple protests near identical to each other popped up almost all at the same time in multiple universities. That means someone's funding it.

[@PirateLuffyDKing]

זה יהיה מביך אם אני אעשה לייק על התגובה של עצמי?

[@somethingunscripted]

Maybe you could pretend to be non bias.

[@quientine]

Please know that the information you present regarding the arrest of Faculty members and their associated work is not information that I receive elsewhere on social media, and most of the info pushed to me has a decidedly more conservative angle to it. The information you present is important, please keep it up!

[@joseleonido3479]

My controversial say: People shouldn’t assault other people because of their race.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Tell that to the counter protesters.

[@talglikman7276]

@@dalekrenegade2596 Tell that to the original protesters and Hamas

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@talglikman7276 Oh look the boy who cried Hamas.

[@talglikman7276]

@@dalekrenegade2596 Oh look the boy who is stuck in his echo chamber.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

​@@talglikman7276 Dude you are just yelling at a mirror.

[@JaceFalcon]

Privileged crybullying

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Yep Zionists are the worst.

[@edwinurbina7843]

My boy deserves to get his buzz on to help with the anxiety

[@dun769]

Wow, your extreme bias is showing, I’m clicking “not interested” when I see your videos. You’re obviously working for one side. Buh bye…

[@DrizzyB]

So you'd like it if it was supporting Israel??? Like no matter what, everything has bias attached to it.

[@pat.russStudios]

There's a lot to unpack in this video but here are some points that I'd like to address: "Nonviolent" protests: I disagree when you said most of these protests are nonviolent. You do mention the video was largely written before some very violent counter-protests and police crackdowns occurred, but I'd like to stress that the police crackdowns, especially at Columbia University, were caused by the protesters crossing a line. These student demonstrations are definitely violent, they refuse to leave even when breaking college rules. The college has no choice but to call the police to restore order. The protesters weren't being held against their will, and there are ways of civilly continuing the movement without occupying public space. They chose to stay and face the consequences of their actions. Infantilizing our kids VS ideological indoctrination: Everyone can see that colleges have been moving progressively to the political left over the years, to the point now where intersectionalist ideologies are taught in practically every college curriculum. Intersectional ideology is causing a generation of students to lionize victimhood status, even in more complex situations where more nuance is warranted. I'm seeing a shift in our country where there's a left-leaning college educated elite that bullies and cajoles its way into more power, and these protests are definitely a part of that. Fear for the future: A lot of these college students are in fact our future leaders, and here they are openly calling on us to betray an ally. A lot of the college professors were themselves disruptive protesters in the 1960s, it's leading to an escalation that isn't good for broader society. I would say it's right to be worried when we see our future leaders chanting terrorist slogans and demanding the destruction of our allies. Ultimately I think this may be the high water mark for academia. What self-respecting parent would want their kids to go to these schools given what's being taught there isn't really preparing the students for the real world?

[@austin19021]

Best comment, you summed it up perfectly.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Yes yes, you're another right wingers who hates the even moderately educated.

[@GlobalSouthCommie]

As much as I hate France as a country but I love french and their enthusiasm to say fuck you to their country is great.

[@peterthegreat996]

If they ain’t on strike they are on vacation.

[@Immudzen]

What I don't get is why universities are treating this as a threat that needs so much violence. It seems they could just largely ignore it or even give in on some issues like divesting from weapon manufacturers. It seems that other protests have had FAR less violence against the protestors. The violence only seems like it is going to make the situation worse.

[@LordLOC]

Violence against the protestors? First off, these protestors are breaking either the school's policies and/or making it nearly impossible to even hold classes - or breaking actual laws in whatever city said school is in. Breaking the law is you know, breaking the law. These schools have given these students SO much time to do their thing, leave and protest again if they want but they continue to stay in their encampments and continue to break laws etc. Do you really think any school should let them keep doing what they are doing? And then let's say these colleges "agree to their terms" which is the most condescending zoomer thing ever btw lol then what? When these kids think they can go protest in the middle of Time's Square and disrupt a major city to make them, divest from Israel still? When will it stop? Protesting only goes so far, and can only do so much - especially when SO many people either disagree with them for protesting or think they are left wing wack jobs basically.

[@BrianHockenmaier]

In many cases they were breaking and entering and blocking off building access. Multiple graduations were cancelled. The only reason most of the response seems like an overreaction is because you are being fed a narrative that one side is being non-violent and the other side is being violent. By the way, this is exactly what the other political bubble is hearing, but in reverse. @wisecrack really dropped the ball here and just reinforced the narrative that matched their priors.

[@deep_fried_analysis]

Corrupt people within the huge administrative branch of universities, one that has been growing disproportionately for the last decades!

[@ernimuja6991]

Give an inch, concede a mile. If they don’t crack down this will embolden more protests.

[@calebsmith7179]

@@ernimuja6991 causing unnecessary violence will embolden more protests, they have failed.

[@crankydragon]

With it being Israel that pulled out of the most recent deal that Hamas even made some concessions to make; who's really being unreasonable here?

[@summertime69]

I think the folks being unreasonable are the settlers who claimed they are defending their "right to exist" on someone else's land. Isreal has been invading Palestine for decades, and when Hamas fights back, suddenly it's the invaders who are the victims? Nah, fam. Bb's political career and future freedom relies on him taking all of Palestine. Politically, he can't afford to accept any ceasefire. This is entirely Isreal.

[@Jack-rp6zy]

The problem is the far right government in Israel. Any negotiation will be seen as weakness and they will be voted out

[@aryscharovsky9419]

Israel didnt pull out, hamas "consented" to a deal but if instead of releasing hostages alive they would be releasing their bodies. That was unacceptable, and so the deal fell.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@aryscharovsky9419 That's bullshit. Israel stopped pretending to care about the hostages months ago.

[@therabbi9848]

You should consider reading what the terms of the deal actually were.

[@cup.o.joe...]

In Colombia there was a rather curious phenomenon brought forth by students called "la séptima papeleta" (the seventh ballot) which basically paved the way for the 1991 constitution which is heralded as one of the best and most comprehensive in the continent so the fear of these rawdy children seeking change is nothing new and something the establishment will diligently seek to suppress

[@richardrodriguez843]

Raised fist for the campus protestors #vivalarevolucion #freepalestine ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@akshayde]

Aka. No one likes or trusts old people to look after the interests of others.

[@chickensalad3535]

These college protesters are LARPing revolutionaries and nothing more. Also, while I’m sure that you mean well, it is untrue to state that these protests have been nonviolent. For example, a pro-Israeli counter protester at UCLA was beat unconscious not too long ago and was hospitalized for her resulting concussion. Several months ago, a pro-Palestinian protester murdered an elderly Jewish man in California by bludgeoning him over the head with a megaphone, yet I NEVER see anyone talk about this. I don’t think that the protester was on a college campus, but they were a pro-Palestinian protester nonetheless. Additionally, I would not consider hate speech as non-violent. Bigoted slogans such as “globalize the intifada” and “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” (the original Arabic translation is “from water to water, Palestine will be Arab”. Talk about genocidal…) are inherently violent in nature because they advocate for political violence against Jewish people and Israelis, and the dissolution of the world’s only Jewish state. There is no non-violent way to be antisemitic because words have power. Also, while illegally occupying and vandalizing public property may not be violent in the colloquial sense, it is technically violent. I’m not saying that every pro-Palestinian protester is intentionally antisemitic or violent, but a very large portion of them are and that’s not okay. I don’t mean to attack you personally but it does come across as disingenuous to claim that most of these protests are “peaceful” when blatant bigotry, illegal activity, and violence is so rife among them. Finally, the idea that college protesters are always on the “right side of history” is mostly survivorship bias. The unsuccessful college protests generally don’t get acknowledged because they failed to actually result in significant change. For example, the numerous student protests against the US fighting in WWII in the late 1930’s-1941.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Man can you make it any more clear that your side lost the argument when have to lie this much?

[@nicole_1747]

@@dalekrenegade2596 can you make it anymore clear that this is a burner account? I see you trolling every comment with a reasonable dissenting opinion.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@nicole_1747 Sorry bud regurgitating Government/Israeli smear campaigns is not having a reasonable opinion.

[@ayoub8109]

palestinians was stabbed zionism is a racist ideology

[@dylr7883]

@@dalekrenegade2596engage directly with the claims or go away

[@guillaumecleroux4581]

You're right, your french pronounciation made me smile (as my english pronounciation would probably make you smile), but that's mere form. I'm here for substance over form and you deliver. Thanks for thinking and helping us developing our thoughts on diverse and important topics.

[@sergioremonalvarez]

this obviously takes a pro-protest approach and generally ignores philosophers who might have been opposed to the '68 protests, namely Roger Scruton, who deplored the '68 protests and lamented the destruction of public property and the a-historicity of the people involved. There are some similar things going on here - what I have found shocking most of all is the justification of the Oct 7 attacks or clear denial that they even happened. Also, you mentioned that students don't want "their tuition money" used to fund a war, it should be noted that generally, tuition money is used for the cost of the student's upkeep (room and board) and education (yes, education) and not to fund the war. Rather, the universities use endowment money instead for investment purposes to help bridge the operational cost of running the university. Additionally problematic is the disruption of education classes being cancelled, or going on line) and the cancellation of commencement ceremonies (which is extremely lamentable when one considers that the number of protesters, is exceedingly small when compared to the overall number of students attending these universities. Hence, what you hav here is a tyranny of the minority.

[@musicamaxima]

Didn’t scruton get sacked for peddling conspiracy theories about George soros? What a hero.

[@jomakreyes]

October 7? Nakba. Incidentally, Nakba Day is tomorrow.

[@austinpeterson6203]

I support free speech - I don’t agree with most of the campus protesters and I frankly don’t know fully where I stand on the Israel/Gaza argument because it’s so much bigger than me. BUT - I know I don’t support law breaking and societal disruption to promote a message. I also don’t support police brutality and unnecessary crackdowns when laws are broken that don’t necessitate that level of response. Palestinians and Israelis deserve to live in peace and dignity together.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

Both Hamas and Israel's governments are bad and have done heart-wrenching and unforgivable things. But the humanitarian crisis is with the Palestinians. More than 34,000 have been killed, with more than 70,000 injured. Nearly all of them have been displaced, 45% of all of their infrastructure (including churches, schools, and hospitals) has been destroyed, and they are currently experiencing a famine. Most are left without food, drinkable water, or other important resources and Israel has made it very hard for humanitarian organizations to provide assistance to them (murdering over 300 aide workers including over 170 United Nations workers and workers for Doctors without Borders and American Red Cross) If you print out Wikipedia's article on War crimes during the Israel-Hamas conflict, you'll see 6 pages of war-crimes by Hamas and 21 pages of war-crimes by Israel. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war Israel has power and resources and has been occupying the region for years. While the death toll against Israel is still tragic (over 1400) and should be condemned, Israel has been killing 25 Palestinians for every Israeli killed, with 90+% of them being civilians, at least 70% consisting of women and children, and at least 35% consisting of children. Over 2% of Palestinian children have died and Israel is still killing around 250 Palestinians every day with no end in sight. In the midst of this death toll, protestors are calling the United States to stop funding Israel and providing them with the weapons they use to slaughter Palestinians. And they're calling on Universities to divest from companies such as Boeing that builds the bombs that we sell to Israel. They don't like that their tax dollars and tuition dollars are being used to facilitate Israel in what can be strongly argued to be a genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

[@baileyduggan3659]

As someone who was on campus during the protests at UT, the only disruptions caused were by the state troopers who were called in. They blocked the main road to disrupt the protest, but also disrupted all movement North/South on campus. Note:there was no illegal activity occurring other than the protest existing. A world where you need permission to protest is a strange one. In follow up protests it was also police and state troopers who disrupted things. They would also at random grab people and arrest them, but leave others.

[@austinpeterson6203]

@@baileyduggan3659 hate to break it to you but those protests were immediately deemed “unlawful” based on both state and university statements and laws. I’m not saying I agree with that, people should have the right to lawful assembly to protest. But you can’t claim the police and troopers called in started it when the protest originated unlawfully…giving police the responsibility to disband the unlawful assembly. Very misleading and now I’m less supportive of protestors who claim the police start things - you intentionally misrepresented what happened with an easily proven fact. You can’t knowingly break laws that have real consequences and then claim you’re a victim to the consequences of your actions. It doesn’t justify a bad law though, and I agree the laws should be changed.

[@baileyduggan3659]

@@austinpeterson6203 note how I said nothing illegal was occurring other than the protest itself. I acknowledged the protest being illegal, but also pointed out how stupid it is to have to have permission. I didn't misrepresent anything and only stared my observations having to walk up and down campus that day.

[@austinpeterson6203]

@@baileyduggan3659 “the only disruptions were by the state troopers who were called in” Your words exactly. You implicitly misrepresented law enforcement tasked with breaking up an unlawful assembly. A better strategy would be to highlight the inequity and authoritative actions of UT and Texas that put protestors and law enforcement on an inevitable collision path. Not only was your right to protest suppressed but your actions forced law enforcement to break up the unlawful assembly. Don’t blame law enforcement, you NEED the working class INCLUDING law enforcement to enact change against the oligarchy.

[@9tailjeza]

Only 0:27 in and you’re already spewing nonsense like “ongoing genocide”.

[@simplethings3730]

Your inability to understand is not the definition of "nonsense".

[@9tailjeza]

@@simplethings3730 i understand precisely what a genocide is. And a war with HAMAS with civilian casualties is by any definition NOT a genocide. Unlike HAMAS’ explicit genocidal goals which are stated in their charter - they simply lack the military capacity to effectuate the genocide they wish for. So yes. It is nonsense.

[@chachomask]

What a cowardly way of reporting this issue without explicitly supporting your out of touch side - it is obvious the video's narrative adopts the Pro Palestinian side but is too cowardly to state it and instead implies it with out of context effects for example - it prefers to point out that some protestors were hurt without mentioning the documented violence orchestrated by the protestors themselves.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

The only ones being violent were the Zionists and the police. Don't bother lying here.

[@sembercarlson5999]

Love the video ❤ If youre looking for ideas, i recently learned about depaving groups and joined a local org working to coordinate flash events designed to save benthic river mussels during droughts. Could you talk about meaningful organized grassroots engagement in staving of climate change, or as im starting to see it, climate transition.

[@Comicbroe405]

I've been reading a lot about these type of protests. Really glad for this video.

[@leonamvonborowsky7559]

The french protester's quote at 20:32 reminded me of something. Us communists have a quote here in Brazil, I dont know if it comes from somewhere specific. "Aqueles que conciliam uma pauta máxima por uma pauta mínima, na busca de aprovação de seus inimigos, terminam com pauta nenhuma". i.e. "Those who, in seeking the approval of their enemies, reconcile a maximum objective with a minimum objective, end up with no objective at all.". In reference to the way electoral politics forces radical policies to be chipped away until their radicalism is stripped off, and then get chipped away again until they offer no threat to the ruling class, and then get chipped away again until they do nothing at all.

[@davidmandel8960]

Uau tem comunista ainda no brasil? Se quiser ajudar, para de lacrar e doa pro rio grande do sul, q votar pra um partido decadente como o PCdoB n vai ajudar em nada kkkkk

[@techhpro]

Hyped kids seeking excitement.

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

I might get a lot of pushback for this, but being in the UK and seeing how they protest over here and how the US protest is fucking night and day and it's scary. The main difference I've seen with protesting in the US is that in modern times, we seem to always make two mistakes. 1) Even though innocent bystanders can't always be avoided, we seem to just protest for the sake of distruption and dont care about the secondary ramifications. 2) This really applies to this generation, but the follow-up either doesn't happen or is misguided. The thing about student protest and why colleges typically are at the front is because higher education is supposed to be a neutral entity....keyword supposed to be. Now, to really show that despite the US being a superpower, the US is still pretty young socially. I've noticed that whenever a European country protetsts, they dont ride the line... they cross it, with a precision of getting their point across to actually make change. The latest protest in France was a recent example. The farmers wanted better treatment, and since their demands wasnt being met, they took their farm vehicles and blocked major roads (large vehicles, unlike using people to block a road which can be easily moved) and also dumped farm waste on various politicians or politically affiliated people. Needless to say, they got their way immediately. Im not saying protesting has lost its touch, but with the amount of major protests that have been happening in the US and seeing how it's more of a "hot topic" type of thing than actually standing for what they believe in. Then we come full circle to the "Useful Idiot" strategy used in politics, and right now, college campuses are the perfect breeding ground for that.

[@unprofessionallyamateur6354]

So it’s a mistake to disrupt innocent bystanders but they’re also not disruptive enough to the point of being useful idiots?

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

@unprofessionallyamateur6354 Yeah, basically, I know it sounds weird saying it, but you look at any historical account of an uprising or protest to change something significant and you will see the hard line in the sand that you really can't blame the average person for not crossing. Like I don't know about you, but I'm honest enough to say I'm not willing to cross that line. I know it's gets you cool points for saying you'll do it, but reality is not the same. That's where the "useful idiot" comes into play for economic destabilization, stir up enough discourse just to unravel various establishments BUT don't let them do enough to actually be a major threat to anyone but themselves. Basically "a house divided amongst themselves shall fall"

[@matthewbrooks5470]

So basically, “they should do more in their protests because they’re going to be overly demonized for protesting anyways”?

[@modell1084]

The other thing is for us in America , if someone was to protest that can possibly involve bystanders. Some third party is willing to take the law into their own hands with a gun. But politics in the US are more devices. So I agree with what you said

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

@modell1084 yo, I totally forgot about that, the amount of bad actors that infiltrate any movement is actually insane.

[@LilFeralGangrel]

As an Anarchist i find the title card to be very amusing: why not both?

[@corey8378]

Seconded - but I feel like it’s left unclear what Wise means by anarchy and is instead just sticking to the chaos connotation rather than contending with anarchism in these protests (like the mutual aid which has sustained many of the encampments).

[@Wookie.Boogie]

@@corey8378 It is they way it's used in the thumbnail, as chaos. And the basic historic reference they used was France's May of '68, where anarchists and libertarian socialists were at the forefront of the production of theory he analyzes. I would also find it amusing like the OP but the level of disregard is infuriating.

[@Jose-dh1xz]

Awe...an uncreative person.

[@user-sl6gn1ss8p]

@@Wookie.Boogie I've noticed they've used "anarchy" with the connotation of "chaos" a bunch of times while discussing political topics, in different videos, and don't remember it being used in the anarchist sense. It really is especially weird on this one though.

[@TreesPlease42]

Def out of touch, anarchy is liberty, where the systems we rely on are suited to meet our needs

[@navinvent]

Even though, I support Israel's right to exist as an independent country, the way protests have been handled by universities is terrible.

[@cmilla111]

Peaceful protest feels like admission that the electoral process can be wrong or slow so for serious issues like the Vietnam war it makes sense that you can’t expect people to 4 years for their side to get power. If you don’t give people some chance of peaceful protest than you are forcing violent protest. No two people protest for the same reason and cops can escalate of course but it feels like protesters today don’t accept any consequences. Like they can get permission to protest in a certain area and then start marching because their cause is worth it. Random instigators can start throwing rocks at police which is terrible but some think the cops should ignore it because trying to arrest a threat might break up the good protesters. When people chained themselves to trees they expected to be arrested and sued by loggers for lost profits. There was inherent risk in any important protest. I don’t want kids betting maced for no reason but I never understood how long a worthwhile protest could go on for even if I agree with it. Campuses might look bad cracking down on peaceful protesters. But protesters think protesting means demanding boards fire employees for allowing guests and not apologizing for not saying they were wrong. Protesting the Vietnam was a simpler idea seemed to be the right decision. But protesting to make a company not work with Israel or invite pro Israel guests? My boss can’t fire me for political views but college protesters can hold a business hostage until they conform? Most of these protesters don’t deserve to be taken seriously even if they are sincere. They gave money to these colleges without caring where it went. Except for blocking highways we were never going to agree on a limit for protests. But we saw liberals let their side take a city and conservatives took over the capitol. Protest lost all meaning after that.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Translation: How dare these students protests their schools investing in war crimes.

[@intellectually_lazy]

how productive is adding to the gdp? gdp don't do shit for us. i'm free, living on the dole, you know. kick me off, s'pose they will in due course. i think i still don't wanna toil to make some bigshot richer. i'd rather help someone for free and hope someone'll 'member me. that's community. productive? maybe. substantive is better

[@knightgirlio]

I’m not uncomfortable with people aspiring for the war to end - I’m uncomfortable with people aspiring for the end of Israel as a state.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Well Israel is giving less and less reason to justify is existence as more societal cracks keep getting apparent.

[@kevinwillems8720]

How the fuck are you calling this a philosophy channel and calling this video anarchy or revolution? Is this bait? Have I been baited?

[@user-sl6gn1ss8p]

other videos also use "anarchy" as simply chaos, sometimes when the context really begs for the anarchist definition, as here. It's a bit weird

[@kevinwillems8720]

@@user-sl6gn1ss8p incredibly annoying

[@kittenonthekeys8369]

It’s disappointing. I’m gonna unsubscribe this shit.

[@eaglesclaws8]

Are you for real or pandering right now? Im so sick of the words civil war.

[@themasterofinfinity]

it seems like there is some hypocrisy going on with WHO can protest, it is generally easier to rationalize and justify a cause you beleive in, for exapmle a lot of people say the disruption is justified becaue the cause is just. well a lot of peole thing the cause is just, a lot of people dont, once you start applying a moral litmus test to who should and shouldnt be able to use a certain means to get a certain end. then the :common community" and the coming together of disperate people becomes more difficult. if the same set of rules only applies to your side. dont be suprised when thoes who disaree with you use your tactics against you.

[@X-Warrior.1119]

Its Literally Both...

[@Biscuitsdefortune]

There is a lot that isn't talked about when we talk about Mai '68 in France that makes us realize that the slogan "demandez l'impossible" was actually what was happening for a lot of people in Paris. In mai '68, student and general strike created a fuel shortage in Paris and people in Paris were not able to refuel their car and started using en masse bikes to go around! A lot of people also started to create little vegetable and fruit gardens in front of their house by removing the bricks. A lot of people where not just actually demanding something, they were creating it and living it for one or two whole months and got a taste for a different was of living completely! It started with a student strike and it became so much more and got to the inhabitants in general.

[@azpont7275]

Anarchy or revolution is a stupid question. A revolution can be anarchiac, if it’s goal is to get rid of the centralized governemnt instead of replacing it. I hate when anarchy is used as a synonim for chaos. People don’t understand the meaning of words. Chaos scientifically is just basically something that is too complex for us to predict.

[@umbralupus6488]

Any cursory look at what Anarchism is shows that it isn't about chaos. Like, one of the more famous anarchist books is "Mutual Aid, a factor of Evolution". One of the more widespread contemporary anarchist organizations is Food, not Bombs. People shouldn't fall for laughably bad 1st red scare propaganda so easily.

[@Namlessnomad]

Good job guys another great video I appreciate the take. This does remind me of a story I heard a few years ago in my hometown which is a college town in Oklahoma. There was apparently a local Occupy Movement encampment at a local park and police were dispatched to disperse that demonstration. From what I was told, when told to disperse an organizer responded with "You can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad!" As the story goes this began a chant of " not my real dad! Not my real dad!"

[@ExtraEye]

a.there is no genocide. Israel is targeting Hamas in an urban warfare. it's terrible and normal that many would die b.complete disregard for the attacks on jewish people on campuses, on common chants being calls for intifada - a call for violence, and the eradication of an entire country. There is good reason to oppose these demonstrations and there is very little to compare with past collage protests

[@WhenIsItUs]

I am so proud of these youth. For all the horrible talk about "this generation" or "that generation", it is in situations like this where we see them come together in a beautiful way. Look at our poverty, our debt, and our struggles not as a personal failure, but as a failure of the system to account for the nuances of diverse life and of a history that has been severely unfair to many.

[@trouserarmadillo8616]

Yet, instead of using their time and energy to fix things that really matter, like their own lives, the lives of the people they love/care for, the community they live in, they are attempting to apply an American/westernized view of the world to a conflict in the Middle East. Seems foolish. But I do understand the need to feel important/leave a mark on the world. Joining a movement like this is the same kind of thing that causes kids to join frats, gangs, and other groups.

[@duvvly]

Neither. They're simply protests. College students did the same thing during vietnam and apartheid. Kids don't want their colleges funding Israel. Maybe try genuinely interacting with those you disagree with to see why they do the things they do.

[@darienodette]

As a Jew in college, life has been a living hell. People I once considered to be my friends are suddenly cheering for my death and assaulting my peers. I still don't understand why they were protesting during finals week?? I spent every minute of the week studying and earned straight As as an Accounting major, but that's just me.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Considering it's mostly Jewish organizing these I call bullshit on your claims. Saying "Screw Israel" is not a death threat.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

How much were you paid to copy and paste this crap?

[@darienodette]

@@dalekrenegade2596 None, but I wish I was lmfao. A little money would help me with graduate school ♥️

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@darienodette Nah Israel got you covered as long as you play victim.

[@nicole_1747]

You are not alone. I’m Jewish; I have always aligned with progressives and hate what Israel is doing to Gaza. These protests have been a fucking nightmare for me too. The endgame is clearly to eradicate the Jewish state, not to help Gazans. Past protests like 1968 were spaces to introduce new ideas; this is not that. This is the endgame of US polarization in politics: the far left has become a cult just like the far right, with no space for nuance or diversity of thought. The story being told in mainstream media right now does not match my lived experience at all. Anyway, you’re not alone. We’re out here 💙 We just don’t fit into the only two boxes left. Congrats on your straight As!!

[@matthewgreenhough9406]

I love the videos, never comment. You do not stand in a line at bars in the UK. Terrible etiquette. Don't know which bars you were going in. You start a line, I kick off.

[@dimasrahardja]

Early 2000-2010s culture wars were still, at least in the US, still VERY much a thing (I say this as someone who was much more involved with them then) In this era, though, it was the left who was more on the offensive. You had people challenging the narrative provided by those in power around the war on terror and the prism act. You had leftists concerned, rightly so in hindsight, about the right's moves to fascism and authoritarianism. You had groups like the Dixie Chicks getting a pushback for saying they disapproved of the actions of the president, and the American Idiot album by Green Day born out of a lot of the frustrations born of the right's control of the culture. The culture war didn't go quiet, the terms on which it was being fought, and which side held more power had just been different than it was in other eras you're discussing.

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

The left went from being anti war, anti spying, anti corporate, and anti big pharma, to now being prowar/ interventionist, pro corporate, pro spying into everyone's lives for "saftey reasons", and generally licking the boots of the democracy establishment. It's crazy to see

[@thenightwatchman1598]

expecting you to actually talk about the campus protests. used a completely unrelated protest as an example... i dont think you have as good of a case for people who haven't drank the leftist coolaid.

[@itaylevin4555]

You lost me on Genocide. Yeah I remember now why I stopped watching Wisecrack.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Yes simple facts offend you.

[@itaylevin4555]

@@dalekrenegade2596 Dude I live in Israel. I f***ing live this war. I have friends that buried they're loved ones because of the massacre so don't talk to me about facts. Israel is trying to save 130+ hostages that are still in captivity for more than 200 days! Hamas is hides and attacks from civilian population. You can criticize Israeli Government and Netanyahu (believe me I protest myself every week) but saying we conduct a genocide while trying to save our own people is letting Hamas play the victim card, basically justifying the worst massacre that happened to the Jewish people since the holocaust. Our intent is not to eradicate Palestinians but to eradicate Hamas and it's leaders, free the hostages and free Gaza from Hamas. This is not Genocide. Hamas on the other hand literally calls for the extermination of the Israeli population so who's actually want to commit genocide? Chanting "from the river to the sea" literally means eradicating Israel! The college protests aren't peaceful they don't talk about peace they talk about who's right. I expected Wisecrack to at least tackle this issue but as Michael really disappoints me now. If you want to end the conflict encourage dialogue and peace and a non violent solution. I don't see this in the protests. I see provocation, segregation, anti-semetism and many Jewish and Israeli fell unsafe and prosecuted when they're fellow classmates calling them N@*zis and genociders just because they are Jewish. Facts don't offend me. Fix yout hearts, You are on the wrong side of history my friend.

[@DrizzyB]

​@@itaylevin4555 damn so all those hospitals and stuff that the idf bombed had hamas in them i guess. along with those literal kids, i guess they were hamas too. sure man

[@dalekrenegade2596]

​@@itaylevin4555 Your country have been oppressing the Palestinians since it's inception. You destroy everything in your path and that includes the hostages. When the oppress bite back you play the victims card as usual. YOU GUYS FUNDED HAMAS IN THE FIRST PLACE. You get to enjoy free healthcare while Americans nothing You guys really are just modern day Nazis with extra privilege.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

​​@@DrizzyB This savage would certainly make that claim.

[@Americanbadashh]

Thumbnail: Anarchy or revolution? Neither, kinda sus that you're framing it using those terms

[@rozenzone]

"...These protests have largely been nonviolent..." And "... students who were OCCUPYING a campus building..." Are two sentences that do not go together.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Oh no they stood in a building how violent. s/

[@itaylevin4555]

@@dalekrenegade2596 "Stood in a building" is a hell of a sentence to describe the vandalism that occured not to mention that there are plenty of jewish and Israeli students that have been attacked, segregated, humiliated and don't feel safe with protestors chanting Intifada "from the river to the sea" which basically calls for the annihilation of all of Israel. So no, the protest is VERY NOT PEACFUL!

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@itaylevin4555 Vandalism caused by the cops. A bunch of thin skinned Zionist(most are not students) feeling slightly uncomfortable should NOT be taken seriously especially when they are the ones doing actual violence as the police just sit there. Just say you hate the first amendment.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@itaylevin4555 Yes yes more unverified bullshit*t from butthurt zionists.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@itaylevin4555 You were one of those actually violent asshats that attacked these students weren't you?

[@zurhilik]

Using big sentences like “stop the genocide ” while no genocide has taken place, and the pro Palestinian protests are non violent while the police and counter (Pro Israel, Pro America) are! You people clearly have no real connection to reality! The protests are very violent, go and listen to the antisemitic cries of hate ! Counter protestors singing the national anthem is violent ?! Go to Syria, Iran, Sudan, North Korea, go and see what a real genocide looks like, or better still, watch the October 7th massacre videos posted by Hamas, that’s genocide. I you can’t win a war don’t start one! Also, if you act against the law, like say, an unlawful protest, harassment or violation of human rights, it is the governments duty to act on pn the matter immediately!

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Agree there were no people more violent and hateful than the Zionists. You guys are really that scared that Israel is finally getting the pushback it deserves.

[@AJX-2]

Are you seriously denying a genocide? You're cool with being a genocide denier?

[@zurhilik]

@@AJX-2 It's not denial if there is no genocide first of all, in the Gaza war, there are about 16,000 civilian deaths (horrible tragedy) but, that goes with 14,000 Hamas terrorists, those are probably the best ratios of militant to civilian casualties in warfare history. regarding the word Genocide, Genocide is intentional killing with intent to eradicate. Israel has created safe corridors for Gazans to move to, Hamas is shooting people that use these corridors. but most importantly, Gaza's population has grown since 1948 to 2024 from 60,000 people to over 2,000,000 if there is a genocide, Israel is pretty bad at it

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@AJX-2 They are. It's how twisted their excuses for brains work.

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@zurhilik Wow blatantly making up numbers now Man Zionists are just shameless warmongers.

[@edo.creative]

You've got to take into account how people get their news nowadays. Tiktok and other Headline Social media platofrms. And with more and more government influence on both popular news broadcasters and the said platforms it can easily create a climate that influences the thoughts and beliefs of many. You have to take into account, whos the ones profiting from civil unrest and why?

[@AJX-2]

cool it with the antisemitism

[@ShubhamBhushanCC]

Columbia President Minouche Shafik is a trademark liberal writes books on "what we owe each other" and talks a big game and then calls the cops on peaceful protesting students

[@narutofan08nd12]

What we owe each other, except when it affects my money or my employer's money

[@ayoub8109]

she has arabic origin and knows the history of palestine 75 years of injustice and ethnic cleansing but she sell her soul for money

[@MrTakin00]

You easily find out most org presidents, ceo, and politicans are virtue signalers and hypocrites

[@Fun_GPT]

I admire the word choices (and lack of certain words) kudos!

[@socraticgambler]

Michael, if you come to the Philadelphia area, I will buy you a much better beer than miller lite. Cheers.

[@nismobug4076]

The french thing: Ya did pretty good, man.

[@MatejFerenc]

Fun fact. In Slovenias capital Ljubljana they specifically build different faculties in different parts of the city so students wouldn't be together and therefore wouldn't have that much power

[@serg407]

My opinion: 1. Most protest were blown out of proportion by the media since it was a small percentage that actually protested and even smaller who made camps and occupied. 2. The Schools jumped the gun when they went all in the camps. The protest organizers wanted attention and they got it thanks to the Schools and some lawmakers that wanted a hammer down approach 3. The protest lost support from the majority when they started burning or tearing down the US flag, or by raising the Palestinian flag and even some chanting D.... USA (they were of course exploited by the media) I understand, this generation were born just before or after 9/11. They see it from a historical perspective not as a witness and grew up not really understanding on why the US was in the Middle East in the first place and today the world is way messier than any time in the las 80 years In conclusion: just like the Israel / Palestine war both sides have some positive points in their favor but their execution is horrible and they just point fingers at each other

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Dude these protests are getting bigger. So support my ass.

[@serg407]

@@dalekrenegade2596 I mean by giving them coverage (more than they should ) they grew. They kinda sizzle out a bit by the end of the semester and they shoot themselves in the foot a bit when they started tearing down USA flags which actually generated a counter protest and emboldened the people who are for Israel

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@serg407 Not really shooting themselves in the foot when this became global. Israel's support among the general population is down the toilet.

[@racorker]

lmao let your boy get a buzz on. nice

[@Nestor_Makhno]

C'mon Wisecrack team! You're better than using anarchy as a synonym for chaos!

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

Anarchy IS chaos. It's literally the foundation of it.

[@Nestor_Makhno]

@@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer Read a book

[@culture-jamming-rhizome]

​@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer the etymological root on "anarchy" is from the Greek word anarchia which mean "an" Without "archia" ruler/chief. This is how the term is used in political theory and not the mistranslation of anarchy as "without rules" which I witness constantly by legacy media in the USA (probably on purpose). The Circle-A shown in my profile pic can be referenced to a quote in the 1840 book "What is Property" by Pierre-Joseph Proudhun which says "as man seeks justice in equality, so society seeks order in anarchy".

[@user-sl6gn1ss8p]

@@culture-jamming-rhizome afaik, "anarchy" already had the negative connotation before the anarchist movement, and that was actually part of the reason the movement got its name. Still, of course, anarchy, in the anarchist sense, is not chaos, and its meaning is closer to the one you give. Not disputing the etymology either, or that it is really weird how a left-leaning philosophy channel writes "anarchy or revolution".

[@user-sl6gn1ss8p]

I really don't think they are, tough. Like, I like the channel, but I've noticed them using "anarchy" in this way in other videos as well

[@markellison2152]

So I am pretty much am on the side of the students here on the fact that they do own the campus... they pay a MASSIVE tuition... as along as they are not hating on other students a preventing them from learning... who have also paid a massive tuition. Also it needs to be understood that most of the messaging about the "Free Palestine" movement has lost all nuance about how Israel is a very small country that has the right to protect itself and fights against monsters... yet has become a monster in some cases in this conflict. This is opposed to the "Israel is ALWAYS wrong" mind set that is dominated in the movement.

[@adham20v]

Omg the bot attacks on this video LMAO. the video is amazing and wisecrack did a good job

[@itaylevin4555]

Of course just think everyone who thinks different than you is a bot. The protest are dangerous and are siding with a terrorist organization. Go on call me a bot!

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@itaylevin4555 Oh no peaceful protesters standing against a terror state how awful. s/ With all the repeated lines of dialogue from accounts like you it is hard to tell if you're about it not.

[@mayocorp14]

Probably a waste of time to get into this on the internet, but the protestors are also committing violence themselves. Taking over a building, very briefly mentioned in this video, is not a trivial thing to ignore. Other students and community members are not barred from using a resource that they should have access to. Plus, many students that don't agree are reporting slurs, threats, and more from the protestors. I just don't understand why the Columbia students aren't protesting the UN down the street, or the Israeli Consulate down the other street... you know, two groups that could make a difference, rather than protest their college which has a miniscule effect on what's happening in the Middle East. OR! Protest their MANY house representatives and senators that have offices in the city!

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Occupying a building is a inconvenience not violence. Two their issues are with the universities sending money to Israel as they act like Nazis. Why should these students sit by and let their tuitions be abused like this?