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[@jubilee]

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[@pavsofficial4284]

For those wondering, Jubilee uploaded this video and then made it private for some reason. Then made it public again, which is why there are comments from two days ago.

[@riddance1]

@@pavsofficial4284😂😂jubilee trippin

[@ricoswartz345]

Stop deleting my comments jubilee

[@YoZachStarr]

jubilee is high or something

[@k-ace-x3732]

How is this comment from 2 days ago?

[@kaitlynx.9093]

i like how much calmer this debate was in comparison to the others

[@AnimeProtag]

Compare the officers hairline from the Floyd video with his mugshot and u will see something strange. They got us

[@mentalalchemysubliminals]

⁠@@AnimeProtagyou mean how that guy also was an actor on the Ray Donovan show? Because I was rewatching that show when all that went down and if you think that didnt give me a mini heart attack, then I dont know how to convince you.

[@tgr5312]

The only other debate that was loud was the one where it was one conservative vs 20 liberals

[@thesufferingpodcast]

Trying to stay calm even in the most difficult conversations is what we are trained to do.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

@@AnimeProtag Not sure what that means

[@princemalnkomo8664]

the cop suggesting that every cop should be a purple belt in jijitsu is actually an incredible idea.

[@eddiebankston13]

and a marathon runner

[@Momonoskia]

@@eddiebankston13idk running a marathon but I've walked one and I think that's really all you need to be able to do. But I see what your saying they should have higher physical standards

[@rippen1982]

Nah.. Jits is AWFUL as a self defense.. Going to the ground with an opponent that may have friends or weapons puts you at a HUGE disadvantage..

[@getoffme2630]

@@rippen1982he spoke about it for confidence. In a 1on1 situation, which a lot of cops are in, it’d be extremely helpful. No martial art is helping you when you’re getting jumped by 5 people, and some have weapons. That’s why they have their weapons. Jiu jitsu is the best for a 1on1 fight.

[@el29]

ofcourse... In Scandinavia its standard.

[@thexchox1554]

Criminals and a cop getting along better than Liberals and Conservatives. 🤣

[@thesufferingpodcast]

isn't that a shame

[@brandonkalz]

Forreal

[@reignnyjoseph8531]

Amen!💀🙏

[@HxghPxnda]

And Christians and atheists😂

[@rickyayy]

100%

[@geniusondrugs3769]

“we’ll talk about it afterwards” from the cop after the dude got voted off is great, he really wants them to see each others point through

[@thesufferingpodcast]

Thank you

[@mikeroczkowski8545]

The criminals have more respect allowing people to that speaking chair than normal people in these videos lol

[@JC-ex3gp]

That's. Because civilians. Lack discipline and don't no there place

[@tiffanymiranda1840]

The “woke-students” video was hectic 😵‍💫

[@BrandonV-o5z]

probably because normal citizens dont go to jail, arent in gangs, dont have to respect people to survive, etc

[@TingTingalingy]

I can see you were raised without a dad with that mess. You also built wait staff, don't you? ​@@BrandonV-o5z

[@willmrgn]

@@JC-ex3gp “they don’t know* their place” they were told to get to the chair when they had something they wanted to say so when they had something to say they rushed to the chair. in what way is that not their place?

[@itsinviss2831]

That one black guy with the blue bandanna was the perfect example of a balanced person, he is so mature and listens to other opinions too

[@the1andonly_rajaa]

It's a durag not a bandanna

[@jeanrewss]

I agree

[@ramifaes6161]

​@@the1andonly_rajaa damn the dictionary police...

[@the1andonly_rajaa]

@@ramifaes6161 💀

[@goger282]

@@ramifaes6161 ADCAB

[@Liam-ym8gv]

The guy in the blue bandana is perfect representation of a level headed reasonable person. He may not agree on everything the cop said, but he is able to see past his views and see where he is coming from. That's maturity.

[@Viod753]

Yeah we need more people like him in these discussions.

[@spaciovs]

Agree

[@dffskaffy3531]

its a durag

[@RyMuEntertainment]

But still somehow a criminal. 🤔

[@DP-mv7ph]

@@RyMuEntertainment being a criminal doesnt automatically make you a bad person

[@Toni0z]

What a beautiful video. There's 20 criminals out of 21 people in that room and that's the most respectful discussions i've seen on this channel. Shows you that going through a lot make them grow a lot as human beings even if some of their wounds are probably still wide open.

[@sukmahdik69]

I read the title and thought he was going to fist fight with 20 criminals. 😂😂

[@grymaldus40k41]

Tbf the cop looks like he could take at least half of them.

[@moosiewilliams9255]

@@grymaldus40k41lmao okay bootlicker

[@combatveteran240]

They worded it that way on purpose

[@sanriohamtori]

i just belly laughed at this 😭

[@Meek2001]

The title is a bit misleading as well bc if you count the number of criminals it changes over the course of the video for example in the first statement there are 18 criminals but at the 3rd statement there are 16 criminals

[@theterriblepanda]

The amount of ppl that still don’t understand why negativity will always be frontline news over everything still amazes me

[@YohanCort-es9kh]

Some of them actually live it. They are criminals after all.

[@pablo4yu]

Cops still evil tho. They serve the tyranical system not their neighborhoods. As a conservative its my shared belief cops are our enemies

[@TAmatt25]

Facts. Negativity gets more clicks unfortunately.

[@Dollparade321]

Well, that and most people don't actually read the news, they just see a headline and then adapt to the opinions of the comments under it without question.

[@SpaceIsThePlace_]

He explained it to that guy like three times, he still didn’t get it 🤦‍♂️

[@gianag8824]

we need to rework the flags because they’re perfect when a convo reaches a dead end, but suck when convo is really starting

[@dagancollins7854]

They need to let them finish what they were saying not just make em stop mid sentence.

[@aem99]

Totally agree. I wasn’t really sure what the flags were doing for this video.

[@eduardowollants820]

Exactly, I've seen that it happens a lot when the person going for the chair tries to find a middle ground or partially agrees or attempts to understands the perspective of the guy in the hot chair, and unfortunately that impedes a productive conversation

[@Excal123]

what do the flags mean i dont get it they dont explain it i think

[@Qit_qt]

Look around everyone out there that says fuxk the police or something along those lines , they are nearly all criminals and have records ...

[@lil00008]

I would really enjoy talking to this cop, he seems so down to earth

[@thesufferingpodcast]

I try to be

[@Bdubtheblack]

Blue durag guy is the GOAT for actually listening.

[@jescollo]

That’s a loose way to use that term

[@terryallen8463]

He is. He’s the only that actually followed up, questioned and carried on. Most of ‘‘em kept creating new points way too quick without, a follow up convo. And they barely attested anything he said. Education is IMPORTANT.

[@annaagapova3583]

He's the greatest of all time because he listened? The bar is so low.

[@DoopoBob]

@@annaagapova3583 In the room? Yeah. He's the goat. In the room.

[@99Drema99]

45:25 damn haven't seen a joke fall so hard like that in a long time. Editors let that one stay 😂😂

[@limittesterRN]

“ Why do we need soldiers in our own country, aren’t we like.. united…??? “ girl.. 😭😭🤦🏼‍♂️

[@yosuar1986]

😂😂

[@jurgnobs1308]

a cop calling himself a soldier is a much bigger issue. and there were a whole lot more fucked up things he said.

[@millionairesburner24]

Bless her heart

[@lapisgaming8070]

​@@jurgnobs1308like what?

[@vidowatcher91]

At least she conceded when he said "tell the criminals to stop doing the crime"

[@Izzys_Autos]

This cop is an absolute G. We need more people, let alone cops, like him.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

Thank you my friend

[@sanriohamtori]

@@thesufferingpodcast hello

[@thesufferingpodcast]

@@sanriohamtori hello

[@calisims258]

No

[@wattw3900]

Agree

[@Yourbeautiful666]

50:00 He came to be mad, not to have a conversation. He came to express his hatred rather than to learn something.

[@aunderiskerensky2304]

This officer is a solid dude. I really really like what he has to say and how he views his career. I hope he teaches police somewhere.

[@chrisromanoff4707]

I was going to comment this. Very well spoken. Stood his ground

[@OVOSocki]

He could definitely be a great trainer for new cops

[@markhurter]

Except the comment about thanking a cop when you get pulled over for nothing. I agree otherwise.

[@itsty4short392]

Solid how he completely denied everyone’s experience has it there is a video proof for everything he denies

[@aunderiskerensky2304]

@@itsty4short392 You see the story you want I guess.

[@dgizzle101]

Whats bad is, they all want him to answer for every bad cop but would be pissed if he wanted them to answer for every gruesome crime scene he stepped foot on.

[@Artryom]

Truuuee bruh! That’s what makes these gripes and generalizations hilarious.👀

[@dgizzle101]

@Artryom to me it's sad. It shows the box they trapped themselves into. One that doesnt allow them to see that they are only seeing .01% of this country. They can't tell the difference between local and national.

[@mimi7574]

Nah the difference is the lack of accountability from one group criminals are forced to be accountable often times more than not when police brutality happens other stand back and let it happen.

[@blueeyedbatman]

Seriously though..... even just responses like the criminal who tried to claim he is the victim isn't taking responsibility for his own actions, much less those of people who have done worse than him. Imagine if he was treated like a child predator or serial killer for a simple possession charge. He would NOT be ok with it.

[@noahpassmore6452]

Cops do that lol they judge criminals based on other criminals actions

[@diegomontoya172]

Some of these criminals just wanna rant on the cops and not even find a solution 😂😂😂

[@practicewhatyoupreach79]

find a solution to what exactly? this was just a discussion

[@tem3111]

No accountability. I guarantee that 90 percent of these ex cons are still mad at the police instead of themselves for the crimes that they committed.

[@CoffeeTastic1]

⁠@@practicewhatyoupreach79like a compromise and explanation to why this is happening. Not just arguing with him about why everyone in the field is bad

[@rhymeswithtyme]

Because they probably still wanna commit crime.

[@jumpy2783]

Yeah it was kinda odd Even when the cop agreed with them entirely, they took offense. I think a few of them had a notion that agreeance isn't possible

[@LarryXLR]

Black lady in the red shirt was rude and nasty to the cop the whole time then in the post interview she goes "The cop was cool. He was nice." 😂

[@t0xic371]

I couldn't stop laughing at how quickly she gave up once the cop started doing math. She can't think past a grade school level 🤣

[@TheDualDv8]

hope she's never in a situation where she never needs help... but yet help "cops" will come

[@NecatiKubat-kb5dz]

​@@t0xic371well dude at least she acknowledged she was wrong in some way or another. Be happy with that

[@t0xic371]

@@NecatiKubat-kb5dz Very true, she could've further embarrassed herself by proclaiming more emotional based speech than just giving up so I'll give credit where it's due.

[@Mattznick]

she states cops do whatever to her and her people as if the rest of us wouldn't judge immediately based on her looks and how she acts like come on lady

[@neon_quest]

Absolutely love how this wasn't handled like an academic debate. One should never be unwilling to agree when the other party makes a reasonable point, that's how productive conversations happen.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

This type of debate is how we get things changed

[@rongike]

shouldn't academic debates be like this? what are they teaching kids?

[@ocularmusic3174]

That is what an academic debate is. Political debates are rarely academic or held in an academic format 🤓

[@BobbyMack]

@@ocularmusic3174 I interpret 'academic' debate as when an extremely obvious point is made but the person still disagrees with it because of some obscure 'scientific study' that says the opposite. That's what I see all over the place and it drives me nuts.

[@bendadestroyer]

Half the video was the cop validating the crimes experiences. Like "Hey, sorry that happened to you, but that ain't all of us." Trauma sucks but these people need to take steps to move on.

[@booper92169]

I cannot believe she said, "why do we need soldiers in our own country we're supposed to be united." 🤦‍♀️ I can't even.....seriously?

[@Anonymous-uw4sr]

😅

[@leighton6907]

Marvel ahh writing

[@lordwhippleton9734]

Utopian thinking applied to everyone is naive

[@untitled795]

women.

[@Toro562-k4s]

@@untitled795a women doing only fans 🫠😂

[@devynrodriguez8151]

I can tell just by the way this cop answered questions and explained scenarios, that hes extremely genuine and caring for his job. Respect to him. Hope to encounter more people like him.

[@gregogrady8027]

Police spend their entire lives training themselves to lie and coerce people. This is an actor putting on the mask of concern over the face of evil.

[@turbotreehouse9780]

The first two interactions really warmed my heart. Cheers mates, appreciate you treating one-another as fellow humans

[@tiyanaf]

I actually thought his approach would be different. He did a great job not belittling them or questioning them being criminals.

[@michael7264]

He knows he's powerless by himself.

[@MsDudette21]

meanwhile some of the criminals refused to take any responsibility for their actions

[@7ai932]

@@michael7264huh? That cop spoke better than everyone 😂😂😂😂😂

[@hotice9828]

@@michael7264 You're not even making sense, what does your statement have to do with anything related to this? if you think hes lying and that hes a horrible racist cop then ur just sad, and blind. i hope you can open your eyes and start thinking for yourself. grow up

[@plutoslikk1404]

Giving the cop to much credit

[@IvyGraphic]

The black guy with the blue durag ,listens to understand. He is here to have a conversation, not to put blame.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

he was a great guy and I really appreciated talking to him

[@IvyGraphic]

@thesufferingpodcast Sir, you were awesome out there, you kept your communication in a respectful, polite ,pleasant and clear manner. Even when you disagree, the respect was never lost throughout the debate.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

@@IvyGraphic thank you my friend

[@Obesebirdd]

@@thesufferingpodcasti loved every word you said. Jubilee couldnt have picked a better person to represent most police officers

[@thesufferingpodcast]

@@Obesebirdd you are too kind

[@gradydoran4738]

As a law enforcement jiu jitsu coach... I LOVED hearing the COP bring up the importance of jiu jitsu in policing. ❤❤❤

[@LazyEyePolitics]

To what. Abuse people?

[@robby2369]

@@LazyEyePoliticsTo protect themselves against criminals who try to fight them probably…

[@JohnKing-yr7xn]

I agree. If the average cop knew how to level change, arm drag, body lock, and had ashi waza in their arsenal I think we'd see less gun play. I feel they shouldn't be *allowed* on the streets *UNTIL* they achieve a purple belt.

[@Derpylmao]

@@LazyEyePolitics lil bro actually liked his own comment 😭😂💀💀💀

[@abcdefghij1234567327]

@@LazyEyePolitics -Smartest Kamala voter

[@zombieslayer9304]

This is insanely more chill than the Charlie kirk one. Amazing what happens when adults sit down to debate instead of kids

[@datboi-ui9ci]

they are adults who have turned their life around and ive noticed the mature ones are so much more respectful because they have been through the worst in life it was refreshing to watch this and I could tell some people changed their opinion

[@Beme6736]

​@@datboi-ui9ci stop glazing KSI

[@datboi-ui9ci]

@@Beme6736 I'm not chronically online like you so idk what you mean

[@ericmorin9613]

😂 i just heard a criminal ask a cop why dont you do something productive with your life 😂😂

[@Larri6]

The funniest thing they said. They're being so annoying and a hypocrite. Acting like being a police officer was wrong. They annoyed me so much. Throwing childish insults because they have zero debating skills.

[@ariannateodora5469]

@@Larri6theyre so embarrassing. The one with the tatted head was annoying me the worst. Dude takes no responsibility for his own actions and instead blames others

[@rico989]

@@ariannateodora5469 he was for sure an inmate. Most inmates have that victim mentality.

[@lazydaisy2292]

​@@ariannateodora5469he said that in every interaction with police, he had never done anything wrong 😂

[@stalkerverzion7401]

The Irony

[@professional_larper]

The cop that they chose is clearly a very sharp individual, and knows his stuff. Nice!

[@thesufferingpodcast]

Thank you

[@the-outsider8458]

This was much more reasonable than the others I've seen. They're always contentious topics, but at least this retired officer is willing to admit the bad apples on his side. Love the topics and discussions you bring to the forefront. Cheers 👍

[@SnapWrench3s]

@@professional_larper yes very true

[@true1stresponder]

Actually this officer did a terrible job. He doesn’t even know what qualified immunity is, he had no relevant data, and couldn’t articulate his position very well. He made generalizations only and had very little Use of force knowledge. I will say he was civil and presented himself well.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

@@true1stresponder I didn’t throw out specific data or knowledge because I didn’t have it, because it would’ve been wasted on people who are unwilling to hear the truth

[@Cold_Brew_Drew]

My favorite part is when the criminal tells the cop that he could have cleaned the ocean or became a first responder… YOU COULD HAVE DONE THOSE THINGS BUT YOU COMMITED CRIMES INSTEAD!!!!!

[@6xthexm]

not all crimes are equal

[@anti-baka]

​@@6xthexmexcuse. They're all criminals

[@jj-vf7wm]

@@6xthexmthat doesnt really matter in this scenario thats not the point lmfao

[@missangela1984]

Especially when a Cop is A First Responder lol

[@80spurple13]

Yes haha but then again, his intelligence needs a bit of work

[@yooni0921]

He handled this so perfectly. Props to everyone that was contributing to the conversation.

[@shannondosher1270]

Damn, when he took her hands and said he had been there, i cried for both of them. Prayers goin out to them both.

[@autumngeorge3255]

that was such a touching, heartbreaking moment

[@patsie00]

the people that started raising their redflags during her part are heartless.

[@EpicRainbowLollipop]

@@patsie00 it is a room full of criminals after all lmfao

[@nickromo8195]

​​@@patsie00yeah quite a few of the criminals seemed extremely close-minded and incapable of taking in new information and thinking about things differently that go against their anecdotal experiences. Plenty of them clearly had partially pre-planned statements that they wanted to say, regardless of anything else being said which may have explained the foolishness of their pre-planned talking points with common sense and facts. However quite a few of them we're actually there to have a conversation and acted very reasonabl, even more so than a lot of people in other debates

[@orang9134]

52:17 timestamp

[@jonathanalicea8940]

Some of the criminals that spoke were clowns and some were calm and trying to make their points and listen. I applaud those who do this to make change.

[@mrbgpg8459]

Because only criminal hate cop law and order.. Criminal will cry begging for cop when they're getting trouble with rival geng

[@colinronayne9177]

Yeah, there was about three or four that were incredibly ignorant in their statements

[@dickfitswell3437]

Tattoo face has misguided anger. He hates cops and wants to blame everyone but himself.

[@djtednam]

I love how CRIMINALS keep calling cops predators

[@revmsj]

@@djtednam cops tend to be predatory

[@pavsofficial4284]

For those wondering, Jubilee uploaded this video and then made it private for some reason. Then, made it public again, which is why there are comments from two days ago.

[@kobe3770]

Thank you for clarifying this, none of us know why they’ve been hiding this video. They did a massive edit from the original tho. I believe it’s because of the gov response to the vid.

[@lilkiwi1076]

@@kobe3770what gov response

[@YaYmoney]

Your telling us this because? 😂😂😂

[@lilkiwi1076]

@@kobe3770 what was the gov response

[@TimothyAlexzander]

​@@kobe3770what did they cut out in the original one

[@darkwolf5625]

the guy saying raise the flags got me 🤣

[@ChurritoFrio]

"Why didn't you become a doctor or lawyer?" Because he wanted to be a cop. What kind of question was that 🤦🏽🤦🏽

[@jessehervias8623]

😂😂they’re criminals jit what questions are you expecting

[@tequt]

lawyers are worse than cops

[@PsychoC4rnivore]

Coming from a criminal also. Bro could have been a doctor but he chose to commit crimes. There is no doubt that a criminal will hate the police because they are the only thing standing between that criminal doing what they wanna do and the innocent population

[@yourlifeisagreatstory]

“Like… like… like…. Like…” - Blonde girl every other sentence “Why did you become a criminal?” - should’ve been his response; we all make are choices.

[@ralboraggins9564]

because there's more than 20 criminals for every 1 cop...

[@kmfdmfan7316]

My first take away from this conversation is that the public education system has failed to adequately teach mathematics

[@agr0nianTV]

Ikr 😂😂

[@brostyle1036]

True that’s why people become cops

[@Tortilla.Reform]

Police officers tend to be incompetent

[@FOXeye95]

@@brostyle1036seriously? Look up statistics my dude

[@illiji915]

@@brostyle1036 and criminals

[@johnberholtz5945]

Tatiana definitely gives cops that same attitude when she gets pulled over, and that definitely causes 99% of her hatred. Lol

[@madisynpannier707]

100%

[@zachwiseman6297]

She probably has that attitude with everyone she meets or is in her life.

[@KyRogers]

Okay bootlicker.

[@PutThatonaPole]

@@KyRogers bootlicker for saying an observable statement lol you’re not too bright

[@spacepanda7096]

@@KyRogersyou are DESTINED to be poor and be in trouble your entire life. then you’ll beg for more welfare

[@savionidlebird9174]

Hes definitely a chill cop.

[@nicknickson3650]

*guy with a giant teardrop tattoo that symbolizes you've murdered someone* "I've been profiled for no reason."

[@CNM3]

That guy is an absolute fool.

[@wartortle577]

To be fair, he could've been profiled before the tattoo

[@cat_alyst6306]

That dude has no sense of personal accountability, responsibility or self awareness. 6-12 months he’s back in prison, bet.

[@cat_alyst6306]

@@wartortle577 When he was like 12? 😂 Doubtful….

[@wartortle577]

@@cat_alyst6306 what do you mean?

[@WhatTheWHAT524]

The dude in the "Cars are pain" shirt was painful to listen to. His level of delusion and projection was WILD!! Props to all of them for having such an overall calm and respectful conversation. So much better than the last few "debates."

[@mean3g161]

Its not his first time in a Jubilee video. Just like this one he had so much hate for how he is and he himself even commented back on the people who hated on him

[@Yessir_shine]

@@mean3g161do u have the link to the other vid he was in

[@julie66822]

They need to get rid of him-easily heated and illogical.

[@oc4063]

@@julie66822thats why he’s there. Most these people are here to cause people to comment and talk.

[@ranga4921]

and paris shirt holy

[@kissem456]

“They stop me because of my skin”…..you sure it’s not that big a** tear drop in your face? 😂

[@6xthexm]

that's still profiling

[@0udrey1995]

@@6xthexmhahaha

[@noone-hd1ck]

Pretty sure that's quite literally what profiling is

[@fax-on.366]

@@6xthexmyea a tattoo that means you murdered someone and often are affiliated I wonder why someone wouldn’t trust you with that

[@xanderab]

@@6xthexmsure but not racial profiling. Everyone profiles to some degree

[@DerinGold]

This was amazing i love the fact that this was grown people having a civil fight. The past surrounded episodes are people who yes have ideas but are immature on how to actually deliver there ideas. Also giving a round of applause to everyone who was apart of this

[@alinamandarina4095]

respect to the cop for handling every conversation so well

[@thesufferingpodcast]

I tried

[@likeaprotutorials5150]

​@thesufferingpodcast you earned yourself a subscriber ✌🏼 my father just retired after 30 years of policing, and I'm currently in training myself. Both you and him are exactly the type of person and officer I want to be.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

@@likeaprotutorials5150 stay safe

[@trorisk]

lol full of lies and copsplaining.

[@alinamandarina4095]

@@trorisk your comment is worthless if you cant properly articulate why you think that. you just seem salty otherwise

[@devanhadlock8888]

This officer deserves a medal for the patience and class with which he represented himself and his profession. Some of the panel members gave him a really interesting and productive run for his money. Others could barely express themselves, let alone defend whatever they were saying.

[@fabiusque4266]

Agreed, I would love to watch a longer discussion with some of the respectful, informed dudes.

[@SquirtlePower809]

He was phenomenal!

[@DadOM8999]

He is an exceptional human being.

[@Anonymous-ee7si]

By suggesting cops are a racial group? Lmfao. This comment section is so out of tune lol.

[@theceech]

lets not give medals for basic human manners

[@HandDriven]

Buddy has a huge tear drop on half his face and says it’s his color that makes cops act a certain way ☠️

[@EthansTradeJournal]

Like his past is being projected to everyone on his face

[@CMH_1975]

I like how he blamed cops for the way he looked. Like cops pinned him down and scribbled all over his head and face against his will. 🤣

[@jordanboykin2745]

Lmao do you think he was born with a face tat or that he’s lived a life prior to the tattoo?? And does someone having a face tattoo or “looking menacing” precludes people from being treated with decency and due process???

[@3rdEyeWide]

@@jordanboykin2745 It's what the "teardrop" under the eye represents. It has a particular meaning. Look it up.

[@tingmin5411]

The tear drop was most likely received after the fact. It’s usually meant to signify you off-ed someone

[@slnoll21]

It’s amazing how literal criminals are 1000% more civil and respectful than college students

[@CrimsonDoc721]

the woman talking about 5150s brought tears to my eyes. And the way that he was mad about the fact that cops dont do training enough for it. it speaks loud

[@katelynlaviolette1023]

Fr breaks my heart for him too. To have gone through it himself and still have the system failing.

[@SogratefulJoe]

That moment when he grabbed her hand and felt for her. That’s what I love about these conversations. We find the commonality, the human nature we all have for better or worse.

[@CrimsonDoc721]

@katelynlaviolette1023 you could tell he hated the system there entirely

[@stevieray8993]

;

[@kevy4493]

Why is it that when the conversation was ethical and reasonable, the flags were raised instantly but when the lady was talking crazy about how she hates cops, they let it happen? Those flags need to be taken out

[@TheeSilentObserverz]

bingo

[@Mattznick]

pretty common thing for any of these videos just shows how much people generalize and don't want to think and see things outside their own bubbles

[@cy5282]

Noticed that as well. Most are close minded and the flags remind me of the “we dont do that here” meme

[@kermitatsubway9113]

This is a thing especially in the liberal vs videos. When someone doesn’t fit their side fully or is questioning things that they agree on they get switched out. When they are in a middle ground they get switched out it’s frustrating. This vid at least the first 10 mins it’s more about they got what they wanted to say and they wanted to leave to let someone else go. Idk tho just for the first 10 mins

[@zakm4n450]

45:32 YEEEOOOOOO WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS😭😭 HES SAYING THAT HE GOT S**T BECAUSE HE WAS PACKIN😭😭😭

[@RyattWolf]

That scene was soo awkward I had no idea if it was okay to laugh or not 💀

[@ffgggkok]

frrr💀

[@Lui2Smoove]

bro im sayin i been lookin for a comment like dis why he trollin like that 😭

[@bernardosales9350]

Super cringe moment hahahahaha

[@zakm4n450]

@@Lui2Smoove 😭😭😭

[@alabamaman1372]

Not all cops are the same. Not all criminals are the same. 👌

[@thesufferingpodcast]

very true

[@ShotoScrub]

Some cops just allow the bad cops to be bad. Just as bad if not worse than the bad cop. At least you know the bad cop won’t help you to behind with.

[@Morithea]

@ShotoScrub okay and all criminals take advantage of others to fulfill their own selfish desires? that's why we need cops, and not worthless, useless criminals who offer nothing but their self entitlement and filth to society

[@erikgarcia2854]

​@ShotoScrub That's why a few rotten apples spoil the bunch. Here in california, we're expected to lose 5% of our police force every year due to severe misconduct cases. Now imagine how much more that goes unreported.

[@JROB447]

This is common knowledge

[@dswofford22]

The "Cars are pain" guy's last two brain cells are in a wrestling match with each other. What a mouth breather. 😂😂😂

[@efrainlopez8563]

Its always the ones w sunglasses inside a room.. or warehouse in this case.. reminds me of dudes scared to look in the eyes of the enemy.

[@mohammednebil2570]

Dude was the joke of the episode. He really said “there’s oceans to clean, pets to save” to a cop. Also loving the quote on quote gestures 😂

[@Nefstyy]

Ya that guys a goof

[@shyannamarie3954]

He had the nerve the ask why he didn’t do something better with his life when he is a criminal lmao like bro what

[@shyannamarie3954]

Like bro you’re a criminal what did you do with your life or to help the world

[@codyjones3456]

That girl sitting behind the cop moves so much lol when that guy at 35:25 agreed with the cop she almost had a stroke😂

[@Brii98]

Emotional immaturity

[@SkyKid002]

Then she got the chair and said nothing

[@NaeUnlimited]

😂😂😂

[@thesufferingpodcast]

She needs to find a way to resolve her anger

[@westword6558]

@@thesufferingpodcast exactly

[@matthewmajor5435]

It's crazy to see how civil this episode is Vs. the others on political issues. Kudos to these people and the cop for showing how to be passionate and debate but also respect each other.

[@Envelopedlove]

people in the comments praising the participants for being polite but i think the way some of these people spoke to the cop was plain rude and disrespectful. props to him for remaining so nice the whole video.

[@MsDudette21]

yes the ENTIRE time. with all the disrespet thrown his way and blaming him..why didnt the cop ask why did they choose to become criminals?

[@Sol-01]

especially that girl in red and the guy in white with the shades

[@PPR924]

@@Sol-01and the guy with the white shirt and glasses. Talking about “you are cowards… why couldn’t you be nurses and doctors?”

[@christianortiz4520]

Cars are pain guy and the one with the tear drop found it impossible to make an argument separate from their emotional weakness

[@TroyerFilms]

Cars are pain guy is super online, just regurgitating popular lines

[@timmyv148]

They’re both pathetic and have weak bias arguments

[@jroc523]

Let their emotions control them.

[@ShootStraightUp]

Bro, did we watch the same videos? The cars dude was putting it all caps which by the way is based by his own emotions

[@rhymeswithtyme]

I guarantee they still commit crimes.

[@jly444_]

Judging a cop on his careerpath.. “why didn’t you become a nurse?” Why didn’t YOU instead of becoming a criminal??

[@burbanpoison2494]

"I made bad choices because I wanted to take advantage of people and feel like I had power over them them. You?"

[@0lovely_bpd0]

some of them have an inability to present an argument forsure, and that was one of the comments that was ignorance/didn't help them lmao 💀

[@TyL-u6w]

Facts. It's because he's a brown guy and he didn't have the same opportunity as the rest. Just ingorant way of thinking.

[@Industry-insider]

Because they believe they are the victim

[@jessivietgirl]

him wearing sunglasses indoors shows how much of a coward he is

[@MysteriouslyUnknown-f5m]

Cops voice sounds like John Cena😂

[@thesufferingpodcast]

lol

[@jessemiller6413]

31:13 “how many men are willing to get it tattooed on them?” Hardest mic drop in the entire episode.

[@luisguzman6046]

No just proves he doesn’t wanna deal with money , proving he’s NOT SELFLESS and does care for him self , that statistic that that former criminal said shut that whole statement that most cops are selfless and honorable, I’ll have to ask what majority is , in my opinion 60% are and the rest are not, that’s majority yea but wtf is the 40% then ??

[@the-ironclad]

That was badass bro

[@erickrosa7277]

@@luisguzman6046nah actually it proves nothing. It just means he has a ring tattooed to his hand. He could have an actual ring at home and chooses to not wear it but of course you have all the answers

[@erickrosa7277]

@@luisguzman6046well you said it yourself. If 60% is the majority, it would only make sense that 40% would be the minority

[@lockeland6969]

@@luisguzman6046you still have time to delete your post and save some embarrassment, sweetie.

[@jamesmcd71]

The only thing you can take from this is that most people are ignorant of reality.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

their perception is just a bit off

[@Wilsongaboi]

10% of billions is still millions.

[@blueeyedbatman]

Most criminals.

[@alorabrooks8310]

@@blueeyedbatmanno most people. the cop was ignorant of reality a bit as well when it came to race related issues.

[@jescollo]

@@alorabrooks8310in what way?

[@TheKickinStudios]

how can someone with a teardrop tattoo claim someone else is evil. like dude your tattoo literally means you murdered someone.

[@nellebuhrmann5343]

I could not agree more!!! Truth!!!

[@jamesorlong]

More than one evil person can exist at the same time. 😅

[@prestonpowers7376]

Not the point. The dude is staying he is calling the kettle black. He's a hypocrite! ​@jamesorlong

[@vibez2806]

​@@prestonpowers7376a tu quoque means nothing. Even if he was evil, that don't mean that he can't call out other evil

[@alexthomet5101]

It means someone he cared about got murdered, and he got his get back. Taking revenge isn't evil, it's human. Acting like none of yall bootlickers wouldn't slide for a spouse or a brother is a lie or yall are weak

[@moniwaters7707]

I’m so glad this is a video because so many people are so hostile towards police and call them pigs when they don’t understand all the different variables

[@thesufferingpodcast]

Very true

[@datboi-ui9ci]

I'm not a cop I don't want to be, but it makes me angry when people are so disrespectful toward police, similar to kids being disrespectful to teachers they are underpaid, and do that job to help society just to be called names and generalized(?) to be the worst

[@thesufferingpodcast]

@@datboi-ui9ci nobody should ever be disrespectful to another. With social media it’s too easy and then it translates into the real world.

[@Beautiful-ModelBarbara-Hut-s1j]

I haven't finished the video yet but I wish the criminals came with more facts and statistics, rather than just anecdotal evidence.

[@JTM56]

The reason they don’t do that is because the stats would back up the cops

[@Trackpad12]

You wish the criminals were smart and prepared??? 🤣🤣🤣

[@Davee774]

A few did but they grossly use those statistics to support their own bias. rather than being aware of both sides most of them are stuck in such extremes and only see that

[@lilderose]

There qualitative experience is more substantial

[@JTM56]

@@lilderose it’s not because there just going off emotions

[@avoxados690]

This is the first debate where people are so mature and respectful to one another. Everyone is listening and not talking over each other. Kudos to all of them!! I'd love to hear their personal stories too.

[@rileyambrose3444]

Thank you❤

[@tavonroberts5459]

Yet nothing will change this is just for show....

[@0udrey1995]

Absolutely not lol

[@hoopadooppoopnloop1267]

Lol uhhhhh most of the criminals weren’t listening. They just came to make a statement and then ask people to raise flags to bail them out when they are challenged

[@rjs9456]

Did we watch the same video?

[@martinSteelyZero]

“Cars are Pain” guy has a problem with authority and being told what not to do. Dresses it up as victimisation.

[@jakedavis1129]

Crazy the punk criminal telling a cop to do something better with his life 😂

[@DobyDuke]

His future so bright, he needs shades indoors!

[@wdubduece8913]

It's a donut media shirt lol it's a car KZbin channel lol

[@Chrisgallierhobbit]

100%

[@itsDelfi]

I don't even get that phrase, can someone explain?

[@NotTheRealPD]

Someone needed to do something about that damn fly in the close ups

[@ronin2229]

“When your willing to give your life you don’t know who hates you when you willing to do that that’s honer” 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯🔥

[@thesufferingpodcast]

thank you my friend

[@joseadan13m]

Gave me chills

[@paulpsycho78]

Construction worker more dangerous. Logger more dangerous. Delivery driver more dangerous. Cops aren't even top 10 most dangerous jobs in the us

[@natethetoe386]

Cars Are Pain shirt guy, "we don't need you." All his victims, "but we do."

[@TheDetroitLFC]

Dude is straight up a bad person. You can tell he's salty AF being arrested

[@realquadmoo]

OMG someone has a cars are pain shirt?? That’s awesome!!! Cars ruined everything!!

[@Abrotherhood-rt7hj]

@@TheDetroitLFCthat’s so astute you should seek a career in behavioral analysis with the cia or fbi. and i’m completely not being sarcastic at all😂

[@eduardotrevino2816]

I’m pretty sure it’s the same guy from the cops and criminals middle ground. Acted the same in this video as he did in the previous one.

[@HodgizeroNeo]

I thought he was roleplaying "Shades" From Luke Cage

[@alyssacampos13]

I love how the criminals are like if you want to make a difference then go be a doctor or blah blah blah yet they are CRIMINALS

[@zavierthomas]

Lmaooo

[@MdVaDc]

Yeah who were most likely brought up seeing violence and drugs their whole young lives. You don't know what people go through. Most only have 1 parent if that. The police judges lawyers are all in this for profit. If it wasn't for criminals they would be jobless. The prison industry is for profit. People invest in prisons. Police are encouraged to hunt people down and lock them up. Police paid over 3 billion dollars I lawsuits last year alone and your taxes pay for that. Those taxes could have went to community centers, programs for disenfranchised youth and many other things. But it's people like you who judge so quickly that keeps this same wheel spinning the way it is. They might not be able to articulate themselves properly but they are not wrong.

[@cgualandi30]

Until you've been forced by the hand you're delt to do crime, just to survive, you'll never understand. People have to ask the question "WHY is crime committed? What is causing people to commit crime in our society?"

[@Daniel-pi5qd]

@@MdVaDcevery action in life is a choice. So many others grow up in bad places and chose not to do crime or drugs

[@goldengloves2388]

@@MdVaDc the first few sentences describes of few of us in the comment section. However, understandable.

[@FerdiNand-em5zd]

bro, they so calm, i can feel something aura there, even i just watch

[@lockdowng112]

Homeboy with the tear drop crying about being profiled lol

[@stevesoutlook2675]

Lmaoooo

[@madisonsmith1573]

Tear drop bigger than Dallas 😅

[@lockdowng112]

@@madisonsmith1573 He thought if he got a massive tear drop on his his face the cops would take pitty on him. Looks like an extra from Fast & Furious who never made it to the final cut lol

[@spencersharp]

u know what thats crazy, this dude is an actor ive used him in like 3 diff projects over the past 10 years

[@iknownothinguknow]

OF girl keeping sterotypes alive. That girl is an airhead lmao

[@bens_lifts]

Frfrr

[@HekkaDopePinoy]

And she thought Star Wars was really filmed in space 😂

[@theceech]

u just like finding any instance to hate on OF models. U could make the same claim about other ppl on the panel

[@suppleTits]

wow took the words out my thoughts

[@holyromanemperor420]

​@@theceech It's because their entire job is about preying on vulnerable, lonely people who crave attention too much and are ripping them off. And they are also not contributing anything meaningful to society, they are just selling their own body and preying on others. I have no more respect for OF models than I have for those beauty companies preying on people's insecurity.

[@altaccount9716]

Title made me think this was gonna be another kind of video 😂

[@sandhanitizer15]

Imagine if half way through they all kicked away their chairs and someone off camera tossed a pipe into the middle

[@riddance1]

@@sandhanitizer15😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@migyman321]

Let em fight😤

[@thesufferingpodcast]

@@sandhanitizer15 bring it on

[@thesufferingpodcast]

We had a great discussion

[@nighthawksim6675]

This debate is accually respectful from everysones base. They respect each others point of view.

[@cardamone37]

It's staggering how many people can't wrap their head around the idea of generalities and just hyperfocus on outliers or exceptions and in their mind that's the majority

[@C_555]

i wouldnt even say that, but in specific jobs, such "outliners" have a bigger impact and it should be prevented by the system the best it can. same with teachers, judges, childcare/kindergarten-workers or doctors.. but especially cops. where they have shorter education time of all (afaik). nobody cares when a bus driver is racist or is unfair to their customers etc. but if a cop or judge does that, its just a no-go.

[@honeyisthebestdog]

​@@C_555 wtf are you taking about? The gd civil rights movement was spawned bc of a bus driver, if you read basic USA history. But yeah, no one cares if people are racist unless they're a cop. 😅😂 🤣😂😅

[@mayainverse9429]

super hyper generalize others while asking no generalization

[@jvr6809]

​@@C_555 also criminals dont you think? why is all the responsability on the cops and not on the people comiting the crimes

[@C_555]

@@jvr6809 i agree, at least to a certian amount, cause ofc people commiting crimes have responsibility, but when a cop do something wrong because of that, the cop have some as well. but what "also criminals"? have higher responsibility than others? i wouldnt say so, i dont expect from a criminal that he act like he have morally high standards and act professional.. which would be nice, but again, we pay cops, train cops, and have cops represent and fight for our system. i expect more from them than from people going against it

[@firstlast-yc7tk]

This police officer SLAYED. Wow he had so many valid points. And he was respectful and willing to listen 👏🏻

[@52G52G]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[@chrissy7388]

And empathetic, too. Great quality in a cop.

[@ShootStraightUp]

which is most cops

[@anonymousbo0318]

😂 Did he, though?

[@tainii-san5879]

Well, young adults are largely still developing. Physically speaking, they're adults but their brains are not fully developed (if we're talking about the video with college kids), they're probably taught that if they had something to say that it was perfectly fine whoever they did it to get to be the first one to say something (somewhat childish, at least the ones that came back multiple times were), they're not largely taught discipline and etiquette/respect... They're civilians. People here are older and mostly more disciplined, self-aware how acting a certain way might reflect either well or poorly for them.

[@johnirby8847]

1 cop vs. 20 attorneys. Let's see if cops know their own laws! 😂

[@kristieandreas2971]

Or 1 attorney...20 cops!!

[@TheTomFlynnChannel]

Challenge accepted…💪🏻☘️💚🤘🏻⚡️

[@undyingdreams]

@@kristieandreas2971 I like this, one civil rights attorney vs. 20 cops.

[@ShadowManceri]

And that attorney gets disbarred on the spot if they lose. No joke.

[@jesusescobedo3547]

Or what about 1 criminal vs 20 prosecutors?😂

[@kaneslayer3467]

This debate or discussion was so much more civil than any other surrounded I've watched

[@Sampa-ut1kj]

Sending a virtual hug to the 5150 lady. I have a friend who went through the same thing. She also said she was treated like a criminal. They have to be more tender with people going through a crisis.

[@Malama_Ki]

The public needs protection. Your family needs protection. You need protection, even from yourself.

[@missred101]

My heart BROKE for her. I also had a friend with a similar experience. She called 911 herself and they sent cops that pinned her to a wall, cuffed her… and then she spent the weekend in an uncomfortable room with not even a tv and only saw a psychologist ONCE… to clear her to leave on the Sunday. She got out and said she hopes she never enters that mindset again because she’ll probably just end it instead of calling for help after such treatment.

[@Malama_Ki]

@@missred101 no tv??? Oh the horror…..

[@MsDudette21]

@@Malama_Ki what about the other stuff she mentioned? oh that would go against your narrative..

[@Malama_Ki]

@@MsDudette21 I’m all for mental health/institutions. Now how do suppose a violent or harmful, or self harmful person is to get there; by furries in a fuzzy wagon? Part of healing is owning up to your mistakes, even if you were mental when you made them. Did you have your pacifier taken away too soon?

[@rekahwills2391]

everyone's talking about the criminals -- and they were so amazingly respectful! -- but oh my gosh kevin is one of the gentlest, thoughtful, patient and respectful guys i've ever seen on the internet

[@XolaThaboMasuku]

Isn't it always funny how the people who REALLY know violence are the most respectful and civil in these Jubilee videos? Society needs a reality check.

[@3emad.305]

Yeah the vids with liberals running like toddlers and spout some nonsense and conservatives that just wanted to rant unopposed and scream compared to this is too funny for me.

[@Nunya-gk9fr]

Democrats need a reality check

[@Nunya-gk9fr]

@@3emad.305nobody screamed in that video the conservatives were far FAR more respectful than the prior video of 🗑️ human beings

[@3emad.305]

@@Nunya-gk9fr both were screaming not all but the majority I’ve seen

[@jaobillionaire]

Bro I was just saying the same thing...

[@LEZGO42]

It’s crazy to see people say we don’t need cops. They don’t understand what a society would be like without them.

[@Christiansstillstruggle]

46:16 SHE KNEW SHE WAS COOKED LIKE A GRAND FEAST ON THANKSGIVING DAY 🤣🤣😭😭😭

[@ww9081917]

Best Jubilee video I've ever seen. Each person was respectful and the cop handled himself very honorably.

[@loganjohn5863]

Cars are pain guy and Tatianna definitely weren’t respectful

[@trey0001069760]

I feel what she has gone through too I was balling as well, I never did a 5150 call but I've had about 6 really close calls, from barrel in my mouth, to overdosing, to jumping. And the crazy part too is that I'm in the military too. if I brought up the same thing he said about talking to his officer in charge in my unit, we both would of been in a WAY WORSE POSITIONS. It's terrible what happened too her, hope she can forgive the people handling that problem wrong and see a brighter future.

[@dustinwalker5481]

Bruhhhhh.... when brosaid... " well maybe he was well endowed"....i started howling lmfaoooo

[@Stevo-zd8en]

hahaha when was that?

[@JP-vn8up]

was looking for this comment lmfao

[@aliceandappetizers]

It’s some of the criminals laughing with him for me

[@DreamMakeup-h4k]

​@@Stevo-zd8en45:32

[@emilymurdoch6713]

The way my jaw dropped

[@eduardowollants820]

Its so ironic seeing the guy with the huge teardrop in his face going up there claiming that he has always been innocent and that the cops are always the bad guys. But then, why does he have a tear drop? doesn't he know that means he has RIP someone?

[@anovosedlik]

IKR and he claims all he did was sell weed 😅

[@hollycady8694]

it can mean they’ve lost someone they loved too it’s not just that they’ve unalived someone

[@xhammiex7676]

@@hollycady8694I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the context clues tell otherwise

[@vibez2806]

​@@xhammiex7676what context clue?? Just being a criminal don't tell his crime. Pretty sure one of them was locked up for weed.

[@jordanremington]

The woman who shot the guy instead of her taser happened in my hometown of Lawrence, KS. She had multiple instances of bad judgement and had only been on the force for less than a year... 6-months is NOT long enough to train to be a cop. Edit: the consensus seems to be most people agree more thorough training is essential. Call your local senator and state rep and advocate for such. CALLING them is the best way to initiate change, emails are answered automatically, but calls are taken by interns and staff and are passed off to the rep/senator directly.

[@SrtRacerBoy]

There was also a female cop in MN that just did it after the Floyd incident. It's not all that uncommon. Remember the woman that accidentally discharged towards a guy already detained on the ground. I think it was in a Walmart parking lot. Very common.

[@Therealmathilda]

​@@SrtRacerBoyLook at the national statistics. This is a very uncommon event that gets all of the mainstream media's attention. Through their filter they want you to believe this happens everyday. When you look at the statistics, this is very rare.

[@thesufferingpodcast]

Everyone in every walk of life needs more training

[@jothamheystee]

@@SrtRacerBoy I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but it seems you are implying female officers do this often. Male officers are way more reactive, aggressive, and escalating. Male officers violate code and cause problematic situations way more per capita. The primary problem is related to inefficient training but there are a myriad other complex issues. There are qualifications to be an officer and many women meet those requirements, same with the military. Stop acting like women shouldn't be cops when the main problems are far from gender.

[@brandonkalz]

Agreed, we need to boost funding to police departments to allow for better more thorough training, and boost salaries to attract more candidates which will in turn allow for more strict hiring standards.

[@izzyb6657]

This is one jubilee conversation where there’s respect on both the cop and the criminals than the other conversations on that channel. No speaking over them, not letting them speak or let them answer their questions. This is key example respect isn’t given. It is earned. With just a short time respect has been earned between them. This whole woke new age adults can learn from this. Will not be holding my breath for such change.

[@donhowardii1626]

The Hispanic guy with the teardrop tattoo bigger than his face acts like everyone is out for him. Rough life I imagine.

[@moriahpalmas5264]

Imagine the reasons To why he is criminal and now he feels offended.

[@azsa3705]

The issue is all these criminals seeing themselves as victims.

[@Wiz_Outlaw]

Bro this annoyed me so much. They complained about "why didnt you do this. Why didn't you do that." Bro, why did you become a criminal? Why did you do what you did? Why didnt you become a doctor. "Why cant you do something else with your life." Bro, look in a mirror. Half these people have such a deep-seated victim complex.

[@Steel_teabag]

because they are victims

[@azsa3705]

@@Steel_teabag lol

[@kelseestatum6605]

You can be a victim and "criminal" - some people are treated wrongly

[@azsa3705]

@@kelseestatum6605 Ill agree with that. Criminals can be victims of excessive force by police. But majority of these criminals escalate the situation enough to where police have to escalate their tactics then claim they did nothing wrong for them to be treated that way and that the only reason they were treated wrong was because how they look.

[@johnmartinezm]

It’s pretty rich that criminals expect cops to not be treated like a human with flaws yet the criminals have every excuse of why they are criminals. Criminals are not victims

[@TamiTribbiani-z8p]

Exactly, people expect cops to be perfect and never mistakes. They're human too!

[@cohengamertv6548]

Some criminals are victims

[@Freddy-b7g5t]

@@TamiTribbiani-z8p shouldn't they deferred to the mistake then instead of immediately being violent and throwing people in a cage you would think you'd revert to not being violent first

[@SpaceCowboy260]

@@cohengamertv6548most are victims of there environment

[@SpaceCowboy260]

You’d be just like those criminals if you grew up without family or role models in a dangerous area where the only successful people are drug dealers

[@Xternal47]

This cop is absolutely amazing! Best person that handled all the questions really well!

[@tsavv7099]

I would like for these criminals to disclose the crimes they have been arrested for😂😂

[@thesufferingpodcast]

you would be surprised

[@katielea99]

I would love to see the ex-officer’s file.

[@geoffreylincicome7298]

​@@katielea99 sure. But thr fact you're more concerned with the cop and not the documented criminals says quite a bit. But I agree full disclosure.

[@gquiroz007]

Exactly................

[@aliceandappetizers]

You know that’s a touchy topic 😂

[@stickwithme907]

No honor in being a cop??? That’s true for the bad ones. But what a wild thing to say, especially coming from a criminal

[@zenzorkle5160]

Yeah the ones that said "well why didn't u become a DR, or Nurse, or Soc worker etc.. and they are criminals..😂😂😂 It's wild. Most soc workers suck, and most are..drum roll please...women. The problem is soc work doesn't pay much so men don't get into it, yet men are much better at spotting red flags in people vs women. Isn't soc work AKA "the system" something we complain about? Yes and it's 83% women.

[@Guda88]

Criminals trying to hold cops accountable is about as Ironic as it gets.

[@Gringogay]

Let's not pretend that all crimes are equally immoral and some crimes could even be argued to be morally neutral.

[@nedflanders4158]

​@@GringogayNo crimes are morally neutral. What is wrong with you?

[@Gringogay]

@@nedflanders4158 homosexuality used to be illegal (still is in 60 countries), personal weed use, jaywalking, loitering laws, assisted death, selling stuff like water without permits... Go 75 in a 70. Does that make you morally corrupt? Is illigal gambling by itself immoral, or is it the crimes comitted along side it that are immoral? Is simply owning a banned knife immoral? The law is not a basis for morality. There are plenty of immoral acts which are legal.

[@ESENTE]

@@nedflanders4158 there are morally neutral crimes.

[@rationalryan954]

@@Gringogaythose aren’t the crimes these criminals are accused of.

[@melindah.9900]

I’ve watched 2 other episodes today… the “criminals” have been the most respectful! I loved this, I could hear every point. At least I t feels like both sides heard each other

[@drakeisaskinwalker5104]

Glad that we’re not fighting for the chair anymore. Guess it was just the college students that couldn’t contain themselves

[@jorgemedrano1764]

You gotta understand, their feelings were hurt as soon as they knew who was coming to the debate

[@echung168]

It happened in both sides of those videos

[@0udrey1995]

@@echung168no it didnt

[@Enta_Da_Sage]

⁠yeah no not really

[@drakeisaskinwalker5104]

@@echung168 wdym Charlie stayed in the chair the whole time that’s the point