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We started a podcast! Listen to a follow-up conversation with one of the Flat Earthers in this first episode: 👉anchor.fm/radicalempathy 👈 - leave us a voice message after listening! After many requests, we're happy to share this episode of Middle Ground with you all! In this episode, we explore belief, science, and how our experiences shape our worldview. We'd love to hear your thoughts!

[@lovefromsarah]

first!

[@danicarakic2270]

hey

[@everythingisawesome2903]

I used to think this whole "flat earth" thing is just one of those Internet jokes where trolls are pretending that earth is flat, you would think this joke is only staying on Internet. Until I came to know that there are people out there who actually believe that earth is flat and conduct conferences for it from time to time. What's worse is these people even bring their children into these places and brainwashing their mind since childhood.

[@nicholassmith3341]

Congratulations

[@TheOne10525]

Can we have the name of the participants, specially the scientists!!!

[@Han-tt5hg]

_'I don't think you guys are uneducated, I think you are wrongly educated.'_ How to politely offend your opponent 101

[@suprithapochiraju9829]

Exactly

[@raum6241]

Wtf

[@harshavardhan-xg8sz]

In terms of a proper debate , that would be proper

[@renrosemary9882]

@@harshavardhan-xg8sz indeed. Few people would be liking this comment in a different context. For instance if this were being said to a communist only the commies would be disagreeing.

[@GachaKittie]

XD true tho

[@chi-e]

notice the difference between.. flat earther: “i’d like to tear them to pieces” scientists: “i’m open to having a discussion”

[@luanunes14]

Exactly

[@achsaniadevi9391]

THIS

[@YeshuaisKing7777]

The more I study science, the more I believe in God" Albert Einstein "The more I study nature , the more I stand amazed at the work of the creator of Science brings nearer to GOD" Louis Pasteur "The half-hearted thinker will not believe in GOD, but people who think carefully with full heart will have to believe in GOD" Isaac Newton Seek JESUS people and repent he's waiting that U open the door of your hearts to heal every single one of you ✝️🙏🏾 And also in Isaiah 40:22 the scriptures tell us that the earth is and was round " It is He who sits above the circle of the earth" Circle was Hebrew word that I can't spell "Ru" but it describes something spherical not flat GOD is the Alpha and Omega the almighty the most powerful and intelligent being these are just people who have misunderstood the bible God bless you

[@JeSus-hl6zj]

@@YeshuaisKing7777 Dude stop spamming trough comments it just confirms how crazy you are

[@shijimjob5772]

@@YeshuaisKing7777 " God doesn't want you to be annoying"- Me22:35 So stfu and go back to your cave

[@pogo_lemon]

"im an astrophysicist" "well *i* live on the beach" 💀

[@vcamie8755]

😂

[@melsop54]

My thing is when she repeatedly insisted that her argument was not rooted in religion. It 100% was because she laid the foundation for her reasoning with the Bible at the beginning. My immediate question as soon as she pushed back saying religion wasn't her main driving factor, would be "Are you willing to consider that scripture may be wrong or that you are misinterpreting it?" Of COURSE she would say no...and you'd have your answer.

[@dreznoryorkekeenanbuckley2226]

​@@melsop54 Yep! The scientists were WAY too polite!!!

[@ianroman5333]

Living on the beach would be more important if the bottom part of the ship is always visible

[@johngaynor3819]

“ never believed it until my husband died and I was grieving and trying to cling on to his memory” I’m paraphrasing obviously but that lady needed counselling not dragging into the flat Earth cult

[@skorz7889]

Exactly what I thought

[@spsbv8821]

Nobody trying to prove her wrong cuz everyone feels sorry for her, also because she probebly drops that boms like 10 times a week

[@phil2245]

Change the title to: How to frustrate 3 scientists.

[@Nathan-Croft]

Actually torture them! Lol

[@julius-theodorbarth3893]

Lmao

[@WolfeRavenwood]

Those poor souls had no chance. You can't argue with mental ill ignorance.

[@Nathan-Croft]

@@WolfeRavenwood yh and they also hurt us

[@Koooles]

And everyone watching.

[@J4keto]

There's a saying: "winning an argument against a smart person is hard, but winning an argument against an ignorant person is impossible"

[@IndoPhazrVX]

i am now using this sentence in every argument i shall ever get into

[@user-sh8ms1kp1c]

@@iamthebread8440 hey stop that insult! It's very hurtful to compare your mom with an npc. Npc deserve some respect

[@chillipeno9465]

So I guess that flat earthers are ignorant

[@unsharded8503]

Galaxia LOL

[@tsmilingatu]

Jaakko Ihalmo Yasssssss 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@haslahali746]

"Do you see the other side as uneducated?".. flat earthers ran to their chairs when the actual educated scientist just stood there in disbelief.. as they should in this situation. I'm scared for the future of mankind!!

[@natalialowen5892]

There are no real scientists on this show! Don’t you see that these are just actors acting according to a written script? I give you a 100 percent guarantee that real scientists will never take part in low-grade shows, especially on KZbin!

[@sparehead8911]

⁠@@natalialowen5892Prove it. Prove that these scientists aren’t real, given that the likes of deGrasse Tyson and Cox have appeared on KZbin.

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@natalialowen5892And your proof if what? Can you proove that you are not a school drop-out, pretending to be a genius?

[@melsop54]

And the scientists reply after was amazing. "It's not that I think you are uneducated. I think you are wrongly educated." One side believes people are misunderstanding things, the other side thinks everyone who disagrees is actively evil or being purposely lied to.

[@haslahali746]

@@raimundematiusaityte9929 - My bad, I somehow saw like you've had answered to me

[@brianalexander7784]

“Hi, I’m an astrophysicist.” “Hi, I like turtles.”🐢

[@TheRealSpencerMarks]

LOL … 🤣🤣🤣

[@IisLasagna]

Ngl, I would like anyone who introduces themself like the turtle person if they weren't Flat Earthers

[@amazinghannure6440]

It's hard to win an argument against a smart person, but it's impossible to win an argument against an ignorant person

[@adealtas]

@Hell N Degenerates and you're the perfect example that could describe that quote

[@theunknownonetuo2033]

@@adealtas Deymmmm chill out man, that's too harsh😂

[@laurenmartin6259]

Hell N Degenerates explain how seasons work under a flat theory for me. Like they said, give me some evidence of situations that would NOT occur under the globe earth theory.

[@hereliesmyreputation2559]

@@laurenmartin6259 Perfect. How would anything work with a flat Earth. Seasons, days and the zones.

[@laligarci-yuh6601]

uzair Hannure well said!💯

[@Pyriphlegeton]

"I'm Ali, I'm a theoretical physicist." *"I'm Shelleeey and I'm a free thinkeeeerrrr"*

[@TheVaderdader]

Pyriphlegeton free *CRITICAL* thinker

[@goatneck]

A free thinker that loves Jesus lol

[@andrijablazevac2136]

I am so mad watching this video, the best part is when toilet cleaners insult scientist. Sorry for bad english.

[@matrixstrobe1176]

Isn't a theoretical scientist simply a free thinker?

[@graemenias577]

@@matrixstrobe1176 Yes. And a religious fundamentalist is the exact opposite.

[@darksparkle9849]

The flat earther at the end telling the scientists to “do their own research” 😂

[@Globeishoax]

In flat earth

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, there is no flat earth, therefore no research possible.

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeishoaxKiddo, it is called geodesy. I am sure you even haven't heard about it.

[@ianroman5333]

He should've said "do your own observations"

[@Globeishoax]

@@TriIIiian flat earth simply means globe is a lie. Start watching videos exposing the lies and deception.

[@joeschmo8755]

Logic didn’t lead them to believing the earth is flat, logic won’t change their opinion.

[@Globeishoax]

She never said it’s a belief.

[@sparehead8911]

@@GlobeishoaxIt is a belief; and flat earth is one that has no fact to support it.

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, without any evidence it is still a belief.

[@melsop54]

Particularly with the lady, in addition to religion, it is quite clear that the death of her husband played a MASSIVE role in pushing her there. There is zero doubt in my mind that she went full throttle with it when he passed as a way to keep his memory alive with her. And she's as outspoken as she is about it here because, I'd wager everything I have, that to tell her she is wrong on it is to tell her her deceased husband was wrong. And that is NOT an easy thing to accept. None the less, the point stands, logic did not lead her there. Religion and grief did.

[@dreznoryorkekeenanbuckley2226]

​@@melsop54Yeah.. that's why they kept stopping! I wish they kept pushing her on it... It's not doing her any favors to live in fantasy. I am sad her husband died! Of course! I hope she finds a healthy way to honor her husband without pushing absolutely insane ideas!

[@cameronnelson7749]

Everybody: saying their jobs Shelley: iM a cRiTiCaL tHiNkEr

[@baptistem.2497]

*she's unemployed

[@skyubu]

And I’ve jumped out of the plane

[@Ryano966]

Then goes on to demonstrate the exact opposite of critical thinking

[@peagames2002]

I literally laughed when I heard woman's profession. Critical thinker and plane jumper?

[@michaelunknown6723]

Matt Wuhu haha

[@darraghconnaughton1671]

Flat earther: “Ancient civilizations believed that the earth was flat” Ancient civilizations: *have human sacrifices for better harvest*

[@ryannattress7817]

I love being in ap world

[@allanrojas9226]

How do you know they sacrificed people? You just believe what the government teaches you

[@pandagmail3505]

Allan Rojas literally carved in walls

[@derrickcarter4165]

@@allanrojas9226 yes, sir. I too am a sacrifice denier

[@allanrojas9226]

@@pandagmail3505 carved in walls is proof so you dont think som1 would go and draw on the walls?

[@TimZoet]

The best argument against a flat earth is capitalism. If the earth was flat, the edge of the world would be the #1 destination advertisement for your honey moon or next vacation

[@Globeishoax]

But how do you know there is edge. What if it’s a barrier

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeishoaxSo the barrier would be a great tourist attraction.

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, then you have to go beyond this barrier to the real edge. When in history humans where successfully stopped by a barrier.

[@sissyfus6181]

@@Globeishoax At this point Komrade Kletus you are making russsian bots look really bad.

[@zoejohnson4160]

It’s funny because they tried to use capitalism as the excuse for why NASA would even lie about this.

[@MrAsh-hr9mm]

"Science is trying to divide from the creator" Science isn't a religion. Science is the process of observing the happenings of a particular subject.

[@santividal9387]

Yeah, literally what I thought. Also, they act like scientists are atheist. Newton is buried in the most important church in Anglicanism, how can he be atheist? Lmao

[@evolicious]

These people do not possess the critical thinking required to understand anything outside of their delusional beliefs. They simply lack the skills. I know for a fact that all of those flatbrains walked away feeling like they won the debate. They do not learn, they memorize rhetoric told to them by conartists and liars. Notice how they convey information, then their entire language changes when they have to make conversation outside of repeating rhetoric. It shows that they don't understand the information given to them, they just repeat it so they can sound confident in their extremely weak beliefs that make up their personality.

[@natalialowen5892]

We observe the flat, straight surface on which we live, drive, fly, and the horizon is always at eye level

[@ooofgod1601]

@@santividal9387A lot of scientists are atheist and a lot are not

[@DiodeMom]

Science doesn’t create anything. Science studies the creation.

[@theoddhuman9388]

Flat earthers: Show me. Regular scientist: *Shows them* Flat Earthers: No.

[@greeodessen6570]

Thank you mate this gave me a good laugh

[@Zestisonline]

flat earther: SHOW ME YOUR RESEARCH Scientist:well her yo- Flat earther: |\| ●

[@NoName-nf5xl]

Flat Earthers: WR0NG!

[@Joe-vx4yi]

mack FN you made is unfunny😐

[@weareone7315]

JFK had a big flat earth map on his airforce one. Thats all the proof I need. Oh and theres sealevel..not seacurve...airplane..not airglobe. When its winter in America its summer in Austrailia. Sunrises in Michigan before it does in Florida. Lunar eclipse, solar eclipse.. Thousands of Oblekes around the world used as sundials to tell time before we had a clock...sundials only work on flatearth..

[@errordump]

“I’m an astrophysicist” “Well I’m a critical thinker”

[@aaronmcpherson6015]

Sooo, an astrophysicist without critical thinking is better than a critical thinker alone?? Ironically enough, you should rethink this!

[@kamelijadukova715]

Critical thinker jumping from an airplane

[@iIIvmi]

@@aaronmcpherson6015 "I jump out of planes"

[@jseden]

Aaron Mcpherson you might wanna try this critical thinking thing for yourself sometime.. do you believe an astrophysics degree removes the ability for critical thought?

[@alexayala3264]

James Eden lmao chill this person is obviously low iq so when they misinterpreted this which is like insanely hard to do, just ignore and let em live

[@windanger2023]

Before i reach 50 percent of the video trying my best to listen and have an open mind, i gave up. I realized I don't really have time to waste with flat earthers.

[@NJVArtimations]

Im not gonna waste the earths rotation watching these people

[@user-gw8ui8ru6l]

I love how flat Earthers describe themselves as “critical thinkers” and “truth seekers” when it was literally that from which we discovered the real science and the shape of the earth.

[@Globeisahoax]

They know globe is a lie

[@user-gw8ui8ru6l]

@@Globeisahoax yet they can’t prove it, and guess why, because it’s a globe 👋

[@Globeisahoax]

@@user-gw8ui8ru6l they can

[@sparehead8911]

@@GlobeisahoaxThen prove it. Tell us what actual evidence you have that irrefutably proves the earth is flat. Or are you just saying this because you’re a troll?

[@buddy_weiser]

​@@sparehead8911provide 1 globe proof you wolly

[@haia4523]

"I'm a critical thinker*" in other words shes *unemployed*

[@katerinaaqu]

If only she were unemployed but an ACTUAL critical thinker! I am an unemployed archeologist and yet even if I don't consider myself Einstein smart but these people make my brain fry!

[@MyReligionIs2DoGood]

@@katerinaaqu Ancient history and astrophysics were my main topics in university, but I have not been working in either of these fields for a long time. However, seeing people go back to the level of ignorance from before the great Greek philosophers almost makes me lose hope in humanity... :/ To haia: The status of employment does not change the truth value of anyone's statements, nor is the ability to think critically depending on it. ;)

[@katerinaaqu]

@@MyReligionIs2DoGood Exactly and as much it honors me since I am Greek, Greeks were not the only ones who had guessed that the earth was not flat. Hinduism even like thousands of years ago knew (I believe they mentioned an egg instead of a sphere, not sure) These people are overusing their right to be ignorant!

[@ZuhebusMaximus]

@@katerinaaqu hell, even Islam, which is Abrahamic, like christianity ,says the earth isnt flat!

[@katerinaaqu]

@@ZuhebusMaximus I am sorry I am not sure what Islam cosmotheory is but I think pretty much everyone does think like that at some point of religious texts. The problem with Holly books are written down afterwards by men of their time. If one of the scribes believed that earth is flat so if one idea passes like that to some parts of a book is not necessarily accurate. Also texts have been written down at monasteries before the printing machine so the number one organization that made propaganda for flat earth was Roman catholic church. Of course the copies chosen would be the ones mentioning flat earth or parts of it that were rescued in duetime. It is downright wrong to use books written and copied down thousands of times in the past like a thousand of years ago as sources for actual facts. Because in the course of time many details might have been altered or omitted. From slight changes in orthography till paraphrasing entire pages. The copier at that time had the power to live his seal in time. Many people did change stuff while copying a text to "correct" them.

[@nx5406]

"They think we are uneducated?" The best line so far.

[@Az21-]

LOL. I was hoping someone would comment this.

[@areebmasoodi8932]

That was too good.

[@joelpyy446]

@@Az21- why didnt you?

[@aliaaiz278]

" you are not uneducated you are wrongly educated" was my favourite one😂😂

[@Az21-]

@@joelpyy446 Because I knew I'd find someone who beat me to it.

[@TheOriginalJohnDoe]

“Critical thinker” is another way of saying: “I’m ignorant and have my own opinion”

[@engrademafias]

Well that is essential in a world full of lies. Not the ignorant part though

[@CommackMark]

Flat earth theory is grounded in science.... the science of mental health.

[@kiwon7709]

When the scientist said “Well, that’s the problem.” I felt that

[@trevorheimler7520]

Kimberly Wong I actually thought that the flat Eartehrs were right on this one just because the internet doesn’t force you to believe the earth is flat unlike school that pretty much force feeds it to you

[@thejokestersquad3686]

@@trevorheimler7520 *I sense a traitor*

[@danielberntsen3252]

Kimberly is one letter from being wrong and the two replies are from jokesters and clowns

[@worthierdock9929]

Lol felt that too, but idk y

[@thejokestersquad3686]

@@danielberntsen3252 whatcha gettin at there with the whole jokester thing 👀

[@nevaehhi4308]

“i don’t think you’re uneducated i think you’re wrongly educated” that was hot

[@AliciA58776]

I-

[@722Moo]

I still believe the earth is phlat

[@Sarah-dq1qb]

@@722Moo what

[@doievenwannaknow1239]

@@atlproductions216 because the magnetic force is in the middle of the earth and if the earth was flat we will all be in the middle and our surroundings outside the magnetic force will be weak or will not be there at all so no gravity.

[@atlproductions216]

@@doievenwannaknow1239 who says gravity is in the middle

[@Jeffrey-ib5yk]

When she speaks I lose brain cells.

[@Globeishoax]

Same when dementia buyden speak

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, it’s really boring work you.

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeishoaxHarazzments again, troll?

[@thebaconized4733]

My Christian in laws believe the earth is flat. They live in Hawaii on the island of Kauai. One of their arguments is you can still see Niihau (a small island to the west) from the western shores of Kauai. They say if the Earth was round you shouldn’t be able to see it. When I was visiting I went to investigate. In reality, you can only see the upper portion of Niihau, which satisfies the round earth prediction. What they had failed to realize was that Niihau is roughly 1100’ tall. If the earth was flat, you would not only be able to see Niihau’s shore, but the island would appear taller from that vantage. Not only was the shore NOT visible, but my back of the napkin estimate was that only roughly the top 40% of the island was visible based on how it appears from the west up close. This was very consistent with mainstream calculations based on the curvature of the earth. In the end, there are people who decide what is true, and there are people who discover what’s true.

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

I am sure they can see mount Everest from their window too.

[@Globeishoax]

Did they ever mention a local sun? It proves solar system doesn’t exist

[@sparehead8911]

@@GlobeishoaxThere is no local sun. Only in your head.

[@thebaconized4733]

@@Globeishoax Nice rebuttal there.

[@Globeishoax]

@@thebaconized4733 I asked you a simple question. If you can’t answer, then your premise is flawed

[@ahmedas1991]

‘’I don’t think they are uneducated but wrongly educated” Much respect for the scientist.

[@emilycornfoot521]

Ahmad Mohammad also the other scientist talking about the cherry picking was really interesting

[@laralopez1645]

that’s exactly what i thought when i heard the prompt

[@rivera6613]

Very wise choice of words

[@JTStonne]

Being educated by an institution where the government ultimately controls text books can teach any story they want. The difference between the scientists in this video and the flat Earth researchers are the flat Earth group is doing hands on experiments with results that don't follow the scientist definitions. You can see things in the distance that you shouldn't while the scientists keep steadfast to the "facts" they believe to be true without the open mind to truly consider anything different. Science changes all the time with new proofs that replace old truths so why is it so beyond the realm of possibility that the truth of a globe can't be replaced by the proof of a flat one?

[@rivera6613]

Jayson Stonne Elon Musk literally lived stream a Tesla going to space my dude

[@tashmaxwell3774]

Jubilee: *literally has to put the dictionary definition of scientific theory because the flat earther won’t allow the SCIENTIST to explain SCIENTIFIC theory*

[@faznaz7455]

I know right! That made me laugh so hard as a Physicist 😂😂

[@alonglong3281]

@@faznaz7455 yo no need to flex

[@faznaz7455]

@@alonglong3281 Sorry, i just put it out there because it's the bread and butter for all scientists.

[@alonglong3281]

@@faznaz7455 O

[@xg3990]

@J Q Prove it isnt using the scientific method. Go. Refute gobs of evidence that the earth is flat using the scientific method. Prove you have 0 iq by commenting on KZbin. Let me give you a tip. Only one of these things will happen. GO

[@phtevenmolz5030]

Shelley - “wHy CaN i SeE tHe IsLaNd?!” Also Shelley 20 seconds later - “atmospheric refraction is only a valid argument when it suits my viewpoint and I don’t need to explain why it works in one instance under extreme magnification, but not identical circumstances to refute your evidence-backed argument.”

[@Waznewz]

I love a quote i read once: If you removed every single holy book, and every single science paper, one day they would return, the holy books would be different, and the scientific papers and books would be the same. Because one is based on man's imagination, the other is based on facts.

[@sparehead8911]

Absolutely brilliant quote- thank you for sharing it👍

[@paxdamaxgaming4920]

👍

[@TimZoet]

You got that from Ricky Gervais interview with Stephen Colbert. But yes, this is a strong argument

[@dreznoryorkekeenanbuckley2226]

I love that!

[@dreznoryorkekeenanbuckley2226]

​@@TimZoet I love him too!

[@crazykrish3684]

Globe Earther: I’m a theoretical physicist. Flat Earther: I’m Dan the Water Man

[@Naturelover-jz3zi]

Bas kr bhai rulaega kya😂

[@chibidoggosowoblm2543]

lmao

[@uversusog4495]

Crazy Krish YAHAHAHAHAH

[@amitgeismar2857]

Yeah....

[@uversusog4495]

Amit Geismar yeah what?...

[@marycatalina2489]

Shelley: that’s not true Scientist: why Shelley: ... but that’s not true

[@lairoslairoslairos]

Flawless logic.

[@niklaspbecker]

But...it’s not true (Valid argument for the flat earth Theorie 2021 colorised)

[@adityakashyapable]

The answer to every mental conundrum is "SCIENCE".

[@thecoffeeengineer]

Coming from a 'critical thinker'

[@kokoleka808]

Neither side presented unequivocal proof that supports their beliefs that the earth is round or flat--I was hoping the scientist would have provided such proof. One of the scientists 29:55 flashes his credentials, mentioning how he's a theoretical physicist who combines string theory with cosmology. The issue I have is string theory is a joke and so is the current understanding of quantum physics/mechanics, as no one on the face of the earth truly understands string theory or quantum mechanics. No matter how intelligent a scientist may seem, he or she can't answer the difficult cosmological, least to say, ontological questions, which are prerequisite to our understanding of the earth and the universe.

[@panamapapertiger1720]

The position of believing the earth is flat isn't a logical one, it's born from a lack of distrust and feelings of betrayal. It's not based on a logical conclusion from a body of evidence. Trying to debate someone with this idea with logic will never work. The only thing you can hope for is to understand why the person feels so betrayed and feels this lack of trust. There's hints of the woman's reasons in her story about her husband dying. I suspect there's trauma in the past of everyone that believes in a flat earth. Of course it's very frustrating to come up against such an idea as flat earth, but debating it will get nowhere. It's most definitely not a logical issue.

[@Globeishoax]

You so gullible. People waking up to a globe lies and nasa fakery

[@penguin82875]

Yeah, precisely zero people

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeishoaxNot waking up, falling for a hoax.

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, your Self delusion is so pathetic.

[@peewee0224]

10:00 this is the most telling moment. this is literally the definition of the dunning Krugger effect

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

"Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can be the best player in the world, but the pigeon would still knock all pieces over, poop on the board and go out in triumph" - Helmut Schmidt

[@sunshineman5640]

Omg thus coment!!!!

[@christianschonbachler5039]

This is literally the best comment!! 😂😂

[@gtr1247]

You explained it very well 👏

[@joanapereiratube]

🤣🤣🤣

[@user-ls6lq9pe7s]

Exactly 😂 idiots can’t be conviced they won’t change their point of view and think they won although they got ridicule

[@isaacmagana9405]

Scientists: have education Flat earther’s: I jump off planes

[@aniruddhrao3489]

yeah probably landed on his head

[@Magellantheboyimpregnator]

@@aniruddhrao3489 *BONK*

[@philipvareberg216]

how does that even work when you don't belive in gravity? magic?

[@fendy5124]

@@philipvareberg216 bet ya their brains are floating lol

[@FUZionist]

Ya if u get to parachute from that height, shouldn’t you technically be able to see some curvature. Lol

[@Benjamin-om3ih]

Im floored by the nerve that the flat earthers called the scientists uneducated while the scientists had the respect to not come forward.

[@Globeishoax]

In flat earth

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeishoaxHow do you know? Do you have degree in geodesy?

[@waterfoker8558]

There is no middle ground... That's the beauty of mathematics, there's no room for interpretation

[@Globeisahoax]

I’m glad you bring it up. Here is some math for you. If the axial tilt is 23.4 degrees from vertical line, what’s 90-23.4

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeisahoaxI am sure you even don't know how to make simpliest calculations, fx 2+3*4-6/2=?

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeisahoaxBut Cletus, the axial tilt is 23,44 degrees. It’s called „axial“ because of earth‘s axis. Why do you need a calculation?

[@evolicious]

@@Globeisahoax Sounds like you need a graphing calculator, there trailerpark bobby. They are expensive, guess you can't afford one.

[@marcolapel1282]

"I'm an astrophysicist" "I'm dan the water man"

[@rapando5834]

Had me dying I knew this argument was going to be facts v "facts", just wanted to see how it ended

[@mariesewelscroon7536]

the only man i trust

[@vurhzs618]

*Yes* _Im Dan the water Man_

[@kylelee1469]

WATERBOY

[@zeuxlaught2797]

is he wet tho?

[@MubarakMarafa]

Scientists: “I’m open to having a...” Flat Earther: “I’d like to tear them to pieces”

[@swapnilkuwalekar4678]

excuse me?? its Dan the WATER MANN

[@LL-wu5ui]

Primitive.

[@vyelduma3102]

LMAO PLS

[@88feji]

By the look in his eyes he really wants to tear them to pieces ... physically ...

[@ccatlc]

How he felt after saying that 🐶👺

[@Muddatang]

Introductions: Scientist: “we have credentials and careers that require a high degree of skill and education” Flats: Unemployed

[@mathislaplante5271]

What’s even more scarier is these people can vote

[@Globeishoax]

What about people who can hack voting machine and change numbers in the middle of the night

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, that are only alternative facts from your criminal wannabe president.

[@sissyfus6181]

@@Globeishoax "What about people who can hack voting machine and change numbers in the middle of the night" Ask your Roosky bosses Komrade!!!

[@blaytonchak1316]

“I view the other side as uneducated” scientists: “They think we’re uneducated??”

[@flookd5516]

@@KangenAlec FE’ers can’t explain how seasons work and your brains fuse when given the working explanation.

[@madiemery8442]

welp, we really did waste our good money😂😂

[@noor-qk5kz]

say the people who use KZbin as a source!

[@alif6526]

If old boocks say the earth is flat i mean hoe the faq do they know they

[@donnanoe6736]

The uneducated scientist is an oxymoron.

[@freshphenom1610]

“The internet changed my opinion Flat earthers: step forward Scientist: “well there’s the problem” Lol they get it

[@eldiadelsenorvene2258]

Lol

[@roroo3045]

Haha checkmate!

[@paeches5621]

Lmao

[@adrieldavis]

No one starts as flat earther. 🤷🏾‍♂️ The notion only becomes fathomable when a piece of your world doesn't make sense. You then seek answers for yourself. Not the internet, and not in books as such because now you're questioning everything you ever believed in, so the next step is to ask more questions find ways to prove it and seek your own answers. I'm not rich enough to to book a rocket ship. But I love to sail. I can say that after finding out that apparently for every square mile there is roughly (just less than) an 8 inch curvature of the the surface ... water is the best place to test this. So I did. So all I can say is move from your computer and stop being naive and ignorant and just rest for yourself. It doesn't make much sense and you'll not even ask your questions out loud coz they sound crazy...but you'll see if you bother

[@lovemesomemoss4260]

Adriel Davis you are an absolutely lad I hope I can live a life half as adventurous and intuitive as yours holy hell

[@zoelbanana]

flat earthers: possible? ANytHiNg iS pOsSiBLe! Me: Just like the earth being a globe.

[@matthewturan9343]

No matter where you go on this big round ball we live on, there's always going to tell you the sky isn't blue and water isn't wet. You can't change their minds.

[@Globeisahoax]

Will they also tell how dementia buyden is still in WH

[@sparehead8911]

@@GlobeisahoaxRelevance?

[@natalialowen5892]

The sky is not always blue, it is often gray, but at night it varies from dark blue to black, and in the evening and in the morning all the colors of the rainbow. and water is not always wet, it can be solid and dry and gaseous.

[@chlownee]

The guy who said “I’d like to tear them to pieces” is the reason we can’t have calm debates lmao

[@this_is_beanstalk]

But TBH he was pretty calm, at least in comparison to Shelly or whatsherface

[@Alibern7]

Lol maybe he was joking

[@helainanatasha7496]

Nah the girl was the one who started snapping

[@ayDerci]

which one said that?

[@Ringdingdong206]

@Matthew Mirza It was this one lol the guy with the black vest and red shirt

[@thiccieredd9606]

“I’d like to tear them to pieces” “I’m dan the water man”

[@spudmagnum7394]

Ahahahahaha

[@ashtonnefn5262]

Jajajajaja

[@mudkipkid7011]

Le monke

[@Willy72070]

He haba juju meeeeè

[@numbercube7341]

Simp Police I respect your line of work

[@joneo]

The most scary thing is: these people vote.

[@johnderkacz3586]

Two observations: 1. If people undertood the difference between 'evidence' and 'proof' there would be no flat Earthers. At all. None (apart from trolls). 2. If people knew what logical fallacies were (I heard one particularly glaring misuse of 'begging the question' at the end) there would be no flat Earthers. At all. None. Apart from trolls.

[@Globehoax]

One observation : a local sun. That means solar system doesn’t exist

[@sparehead8911]

@@GlobehoaxLocal sun doesn’t exist.

[@IisLasagna]

​@@GlobehoaxProof it exists at all?

[@seurn7801]

flat earther: "you keep coming back to religion--" scientist: bruh you literally started on religion i'm just adding a rebuttal

[@dawnt7664]

No, the person asking the questions started with religion...

[@seurn7801]

@@dawnt7664 True, but 2 of them are christians so they'll mention it anyway.

[@sinabonz8108]

“I don’t think you guys are uneducated, I think you’re wrongly educated” damn I like that, I’m gonna start using that.

[@flwerhpe3380]

Deobihoe || What’s the time stamp?

[@flwerhpe3380]

Nvm I found it 11:13

[@kyleherrell7172]

Deobihoe hi

[@myman8336]

So I've copyrighted it

[@sinabonz8108]

Hell N Degenerates what?

[@ynlnz]

"you don't have to go to the moon to get MOON rocks" WHAT????

[@sunflower381]

I think he means the rocks did not come from the moon, but earth instead.

[@anthony_3636]

She says she is a "Critical Thinker" and then goes on that everything that is written in the bible is the holy truth and everything else a lie. HOW CAN YOU BE A CRITICAL THINKER IS THIS IS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS????

[@hurdylynwoods3252]

Who else clicked on this video knowing that is would piss them off?

[@nexxusty]

Yup. Absolutely.

[@maybe_matt3397]

I’m half way through and I feel like I’ve sat here for hours

[@evansuddreth388]

Me

[@danielpasos_]

I don't know why I do this to myself haha

[@LyricVideos4U]

me

[@graycat7704]

Flat earthers: “ Do your own research ” THEIR JOB IS TO RESEARCH

[@lloyd20118]

Roxas In Japan yes you are

[@justonetime6179]

Gray Cat scientists are not unbiased, I hope you know. History should show you that... all the “evidence” science have found based on sponsored research.

[@tempbees4713]

Just One Time You must think you're so smart

[@alyssaaguirre1612]

Not to research it IS research

[@shockwavemonster3470]

@@justonetime6179 and I hope you understand the role that peer review plays in disproving false data. There are bad scientists, and good scientists always prove them wrong in the end. Always. The Earth's a sphere, get over it

[@AEDGRD]

Such irony in Shelley defining herself as a critical thinker.

[@Globeishoax]

And truth seeker. She is exposing globe lies

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, they and you are still searching for the truth. But why are flerfs always lying?

[@joelmate4071]

Scientist - "i am a highly educated and qualified person in studying all aspects of the world." Flat earther - "i'm smart"

[@SamS-kg3gl]

“Hi, I have a professional career as a physicist” “Hi, I’m a critical thinker and I’ve jumped out of an airplane”

[@socrates8251]

Bruhhh

[@ofe9411]

Bruuhhhh

[@hopekincaid1579]

If that doesn't speak loudly

[@p00ner1sm]

Screaming insecurity.

[@brianboru175]

Another globetard.

[@justincooper2631]

"I'm a critical thinker and I jump out of airplanes" Weird flex but ok.

[@FlynnWho]

Justin Cooper dead meme but ok

[@haileyrafferty2372]

Wtf are you even talking about. the two aren't related

[@annieangel97]

sooo...have you noticed the earth's curves...?

[@marxus2829]

Hailey Rafferty calm down flat earther

[@kuromistan6296]

-I'm a critical thinker -the bible says the earth is flat, so it must be

[@aksilsw]

“My grand father used to tell me never believe anything you read in the news paper “ from someone who believes in a book based on faith

[@jpgonzalez6043]

Thank you! It’s honestly offensive that they think an intelligent person will not see through that.

[@ianhogben3472]

thn why belive everything you read in a book

[@natalialowen5892]

@aksilsw With your comment you only confirmed that everything that is written in the newspapers is based on faith. But you, of course, are not smart enough, so you did not understand what you yourself wrote ;)

[@aksilsw]

@@natalialowen5892 book based on faith i meant the bible and it is based on faith or believing miracles that can never happen but in science you need some Believing too because it WORKS.

[@natalialowen5892]

@@aksilsw but you still didn’t understand what you wrote yourself, or what I pointed out, or? ;)

[@misterflipster]

Flat Earthers, then please explain why there are significant seasonal differences between let’s say Florida and Pennsylvania when we are both located on the Eastern seaboard, generally not that far apart and using the same heat source such as the Sun. Only a curved and tilted globe can explain seasonal changes and why in Florida we basically have sun and warm weather year round being closer to the equator but Pennsylvania only has summer 3 months of the year and yet during that warm period in Pennsylvania Florida is also experiencing summer conditions and while Pennsylvania is experiencing bitter cold and snow, Florida still has reasonably warm conditions! A flat earth would have temperatures and conditions across the United States relatively similar.

[@Globeishoax]

Do you know how seasons work on a flat earth? If not, get educated

[@Globeishoax]

If you claim axial tilt, then you must have a top and bottom of the ball. Where is a video of Australia upside down

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeishoaxNo, tilt has nothing to do with a top and a bottom.

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeishoaxA school drop-out is telling others to get educated???

[@croissantsareaustrianactually]

​@@Globeishoax What education do you have? What makes you more reliable than these scientists? What makes you more reliable than any scientist?

[@lilhazard7311]

Flat earthers: “the Bible is meant to be taken literally” 2 mins later... “EveRytHing iS mEanT tO bE tAkEn WitH a GrAin oF SalT”

[@fernandosuarez8385]

I hate it when people change points of their argument midway through

[@ghostofmisao.]

@@fernandosuarez8385 people who do that know that they are wrong and are trying to grasp onto any point they can

[@chrisw1197]

He was saying when it comes to KZbin videos everything is to be taken with a grain of salt , he wasn't still talking about the Bible. I'm not a flat earther and I don't believe the Bible is literal truth I'm just saying I think you heard them wrong

[@hankballard9739]

Bible is most definitely not meant to be taken literally, in most cases.

[@nutman2353]

Lol, the Bible; I hate fiction!

[@naveennair6457]

The difference in how they introduce themselves “critical thinker” and “truth seeker” vs their high level occupations

[@andremartinez418]

Also shows how the think of themselves. The flatearther water man went into this wanting to "crush the other side". He already has an inflated sense of self he wanted to prove that sense of superiority to others.

[@hongry-life]

@@andremartinez418 There is no other side of truth. The conflict seems a set up one.

[@skyz6239]

ahahaha facts!!!!

[@brianroberts6670]

I don’t see a problem in labeling yourself based on your passions as opposed to your occupation. The scientists happen to have a career and passion that are one in the same. I cut grass for a living but I would call myself a musician before I called myself a lawn guy.

[@naveennair6457]

Brian Roberts it shows that one side is qualified and the other isnt

[@MelodiaTodoElDia]

"It's faulty logic" She has absolutely no clue how ignorant she sounds 🤯

[@starlight420]

Thousands of years ago someone made an adult bedtime story and they thought the earth was flat. Therefore the earth is flat 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦

[@conorsoady2090]

My man Ali is literally studying string theory while he is arguing against Dan the water man

[@kennyshin5081]

Lmao this just made my day😂

[@bartho5373]

hahaha thats hilarious

[@mehereenakhter3352]

Lmaooo

[@onefunkymonkey504]

This comment is an underrated gem

[@neiana]

Also the most assumptive individual, making completely biased claims against the opposing PEOPLE as opposed to their ARGUMENTS. You'd think someone of his background & studies would know better.

[@adrianvasquez7388]

Mars: round Venus:round Jupiter:round Neptune: round Uranus: round Mercury:round Saturn: round Earth: FlaT

[@celinam.2513]

We are sooo special😅👌 We are the teenager of the solar system...we wanna break the rules and be unique!

[@cejjce]

@Zombie Inmate Pluto isn't considered a planet anymore. Homie got demoted.

[@justarandommoa08]

Also Sun: ROUND Moon: ROUND

[@eleftheriaiosif9243]

We're a floating Frisbee 🤣

[@anodetoodin]

A large amount of flat earthers don't believe in the rest of the universe. They think the sun, earth, and (depending on the person) the moon is all there is.

[@thisisntallowed9560]

She, thinks she has critical thinking and that she's not starting with conlusions and then find evidences to support that conlusion. But when she says she started questioning if the earth is flat because of the moon landing theory, she then inferred that the earth might also be flat, and then began looking for evidences to support that conlusion. That's starting with a conclusion.

[@elliotthollander]

Why didn’t they ask how thousands of mariners have circumnavigated by boat and ended up where they started. Also, why hasn’t one of the flat earthers travelled to “the edge” of the earth to take a photo for evidence?

[@Globeisahoaxx]

Open Gleason flat earth map and see where the edge is

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeisahoaxxOh Cletus, again you did not read the question before posting your nonsense.

[@payneravu240]

Flat earthers: Believes scientists are uneducated. Interviewer: "Scientific consensus is possible." Scientists: 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️ Flat Earthers: 🤨🤔 "I don't understand the question."

[@Kimberly-qy3jl]

This deserves more likes

[@maiqen757]

"Possible?? Anything is possible!" *Dan the water man marches over*

[@payneravu240]

@@maiqen757 🤣🤣🤣👍

[@denilsonfallas2829]

LMAO Can't believe that happened

[@CapitalChaserFX]

More likes needed

[@Lily-di6hm]

Round earthers: I’m a theoretical physicist with the university of Irvine Flat earthers: I’m a critical thinker and I jump out of planes

[@lmaooooooo12345]

LMFAO

[@jamonjack171]

Underrated comment 😭

[@lalruata2011]

What does she imply by saying I jump out of planes-? Is it a sarcasm?

[@Lily-di6hm]

@@lalruata2011 I think she means skydiving 😂

[@jamonjack171]

@@lalruata2011 Who knows, Half the stuff coming out of their mouths doesn’t make any sort of sense😂

[@averyowebster8909]

Dan saying they are exploring with physical properties, actual measurements, and not looking towards written theories is pretty ironic after quoting the Bible

[@eschwarz1003]

So telling when moderators ask "the internet has played an important role in confirming my beliefs on this topic" all the flat earthers say yes and one of the scientists says "that's the problem"

[@EndySefa]

Flat earthers literally called scientists uneducated. I wish I had this self-confidence.

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

Dunning-Kruger effect

[@annakruse2103]

@@raimundematiusaityte9929 trueeee

[@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96]

is not confidence is delusion and a massive ego

[@drewgrows7765]

Flat earthers have more education from KZbin conspiracy theory channels. Universities are outdated lol

[@lambovich]

Boldness or stupidity?

[@nadiallucia]

Next episode: “People who kick small children for fun vs. Parents”

[@kimberly-tw2il]

nadia lucia 😭😭.

[@jiminsleftshoulder8832]

I laughed so hard

[@jackieo.4354]

What's the difference

[@royalkulick7459]

nadia lucia u made my day!!

[@erinpicken6435]

🤣🤣

[@kcsnipes]

The fact that the scientist don’t jump to ‘the other side is uneducated’ is amazing and a point for the scientists

[@jellybellywrench]

16:03 “my P900”. As a professional photographer, this camera combined with flat earthers pisses me off so much.

[@Dead_by_Design]

Imagine studying space your entire life only to be called "uneducated"

[@jasonwillows5239]

Wait, but the flat-earthers they watched a 6 minute youtube video so-

[@sir_siren]

@@jasonwillows5239 lololol

[@sir_siren]

But they watched those 6 minute KZbin videos! Those can't be wrong but Nasa is!

[@Dead_by_Design]

@Sakusha Durante dude, there are multiple studies done on the subject. Countless amounts of evidence is out there, you just have to look. But I guess looking for concrete evidence is not something flat earthers are good at. They rather watch a 6 minute video off KZbin and call it a day.

[@ataraxia_777]

Sakusha Durante aight bro go seek some help

[@rv4113]

Wow I can't imagine how frustrating this was for the scientists

[@sleeplesshead602]

If I were in their position, I'll throw the chair to flat earther. Got frustated just by watching this.

[@kawaki-x-3996]

It's like explaning math to a toddler lmao, they can see far but can't get passed the truth smh

[@-daniel7233]

Ye, Ali even snapped once or twice

[@SkemeKOS]

Frustrating? This show is scripted. Do unless they were told to act frustrated, there is no reason to be.

[@breandanhamon1243]

@@SkemeKOS there is so much reason to be frustrated. Could you imagine trying to tell someone grass is green and them telling you blankly that its pink

[@pushvanjay]

Shelley completely sums it up @12:50 - "I went into this completely wanting it to be true". Sorry but that's not how truth works!

[@Tomcat-rj5tp]

They speak about how "many religions teach flat earth," when in reality, they do not. In fact, Hindu religion actually points to a spherical Earth in some translations. But generally, religious texts do not speak of the Earth in either a flat or round context.

[@Globeishoax]

Do they speak about local sun and moon?

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeishoaxNo.

[@sparehead8911]

@@GlobeishoaxHere’s a challenge for you; find one scientist who talks about a local sun, and give me their name.

[@croissantsareaustrianactually]

​@@GlobeishoaxYou always ask for evidence in this comment section, but you, you yourself NEVER give US the evidence of a flat Earth or local Sun

[@ellie6179]

“nasa says the earth is flat” also them: “don’t trust nasa”

[@littlechineseladyv2517]

it's funny because flat earthers believe that the sun is round and all the other planets are round. how come gravity worked differently for the earth. there so uneducated its an insult to the school system.

[@gardomedia]

They never said thatit was flat tho but yeah, you should true nasa

[@gardomedia]

@Stephanie S wtf is that sentence

[@schreedzz4311]

@@littlechineseladyv2517 nobody knows the shape

[@scottsmithlock5245]

All they gotta do is strap a go pro on the next space x rocket that goes up, and have it broadcasted live for everyone to watch. End of debate.

[@undertheneonlights]

"Scientific consensus is possible" All three scientists run to the chairs. Flat earthists don't because they know what it means, they start panicking. Scientists proceed to calmly explain to them. Now flat earthists know what it means but they DISAGREE with the scientists who just educated them. 😂 This is better than Key and Peele.

[@sharpendblade2854]

Reminds me of how we still say bless you, but people used to think that you were getting rid of a bad spirit so they say bless you and then the apply appropriate thank you. New age people believes change

[@Globeisahoaxx]

At least we say something. Buyden is in WH and he can’t say a damn thing

[@opelvectra2297]

@@GlobeisahoaxxHey Cletus, you have to deal with your elected president. That’s called democracy.

[@noeyjo4864]

I feel like the scientists were in pain throughout the whole thing

[@entriesfrommytwenties8146]

i was in pain

[@reesewhitfield3754]

GAPAG I lost so many brain cells I feel empty

[@shelly7269]

GAPAG Me too... I can barely get through this video

[@amanmartolia2359]

Me too

[@Momo-hl9xh]

They were like parents putting up with their kids' tantrums.

[@nnicolle]

2019: Earth is flat. 2119: *Earth is a pyramid.*

[@funnycat1333]

2219:The Earth doesn't exist

[@funnycat1333]

@simplicity 2419:The Earth is a now a cylinder

[@xDopa]

It is though...

[@j.5790]

2519 the earth is the Illuminati

[@xXRockXLobsterXx]

With this growing trend of ignorance being all the rage, I wouldn't even be that surprised if that were the case!

[@LizzyHow11]

When I'm listening and thinking about the debates with no bias, I gain more from it

[@fisher_ryan]

Notice how she took a quote from the NIV which is not a literal translation of the Bible and was changed to fit the reforms of modern society.

[@natalialowen5892]

Why does modern society distort quotes from the Bible? And what reforms do you mean?

[@greeneyes-_-]

What's your job? "I am a critical thinker" No, your job. "I jumped out of airplanes"

[@savagesalvage9449]

I knew a woman just like this, use to be a good friend of mine. She got so bad she wouldn't let her kids wear sunscreen at the pool and was anti-vax. It was all pretty shocking. She also believes second hand smoke doesn't do anything.

[@julianliew6409]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@Friskyboi_-]

@@savagesalvage9449 that's crazy

[@laneyb8911]

The "critical thinker" and the "truth seeker" made me cringe SO HARD.

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

Without a parachute then

[@rushiljohal]

Notice how none of the scientists did not enter the discussion when asked if the other side is uneducated. What gentlemen.

[@ngubani_ke_lo]

🤣🤣🤣

[@-chloe-8728]

also demonstrates how the scientists are being respectful while the flat earthers are openly expressing their contempt for people with vastly more knowledge on the topic than them.

[@user-cc4cj4qi1t]

Imagine spending a large portion of your life on your degree just studying day and night then someone like these CRITICAL THINKERS says you are uneducated i would be furious😂

[@nihalkulkarni5929]

Underrated comment

[@dunique26]

Yes, that was very nice of them.

[@jaycoon8280]

I have a friend who flies planes. If there was an ice wall, he wouldve flown over it many times by now. The earth is a sphere my friend.

[@narendrabagusadiyaksa1880]

These flat earthers looks exactly what I thought an adult flat earther would look like

[@Globeishoax]

Buyden looks exactly what I thought a dementia patient would look like. And he is in WH ignoring open borders and beating war drums

[@penguin82875]

@@Globeishoax nice deflection. Why so scared?

[@opelvectra2297]

@@Globeishoax Are you afraid for your Russian dictator? Why don't you go back to him?

[@Driftking-ss1rh]

Scientist: spits straight facts Flat earther : ThAtS jUsT FaNcY TaLk

[@justinfigueroa9792]

fAcKss pthh

[@hellothere7653]

True

[@chiaradigianvito6772]

Hahahah

[@williamdominus9926]

The fact that she had to tell everyone she’s a “critical thinker” meant she’s not...

[@tsmilingatu]

William Dominus Yasssss 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. I thought the same thing when she annuciated she was a “critical thinker” 🤣🤣🤣

[@zucczuccerberg]

Lemme fix that statement, “I’m a critically troubled thinker”

[@abdullahparker2024]

@@zucczuccerberg lmao

[@williamdominus9926]

Thịnh Tấn Phạm more like western point of the flat earth map

[@amorou8192]

Oof

[@hugochka]

Why are Scientists even feeding the subject? I mean how is this even a thing?? You can see the globe shape from a plane even!

[@Globeisahoax]

Can you also see the bottom of the globe?

[@raimundematiusaityte9929]

​@@GlobeisahoaxBalls have no bottoms, kiddo! How you can see something that doesn't exist???

[@MM-ow4mp]

Amazed about the distance from reality (and sanity) of flat earthers.