Can A Car Tire Last 100,000 Miles? Tire Wear Explained!

[@antoniovillanueva308]

I have over 400K on my spare. The secret to long tire life is to never let the tire touch the road.

[@EngineeringExplained]

This guy tires.

[@pooyakhalili406]

😂😂😂

[@drdoomgoat38]

🧠🧠

[@pratn]

My car tires developed a bunch of cracks after sitting idle during covid

[@hybridstoatdragon]

Ok go ahead. Get a boat 😂

[@ricequackers]

I will never tire of these videos!

[@nathanl4417]

Wheel you watch a part 2?

[@owaisahmed91]

I’m an Automotive Engineer who made it through my master's degree thanks to your videos, and now I work in R&D at Continental Tires (for over 8 years now). I wish I would've known you were visiting, would have been great to have a meet and greet!

[@infantryrecon101st]

Best tires on the market!!! Once I tried the true contact tours I’ll never go to another company. Keep making great products! Hope y’all will make a true contact tour with internal sound damping foam sometime soon and keep improving on that already ultimate all in one tire!

[@slode1693]

I surprised that inflation pressure was not touched on. That can have a pretty big impact on tire wear.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Properly inflated of course! Otherwise you'll have uneven wear.

[@wobblysauce]

It is a variable that depends on a lot of things, this is why it is recommended to look at the tyre sticker normally by the driver's door, as the manufacturer has already done the hard work. From there you can go up and down a bit depending on conditions.

[@slode1693]

@@EngineeringExplained I guess I've always wondered what kind of testing goes into figuring out the figure for that, and because it's a vehicle specific rating, does tire selection have any impact at all. i.e. is this only tested with the factory installed tires? Could a summer vs all season tire on the same vehicle require a couple PSI difference to get the best wear? Or does the tire have no impact at all?

[@mofayer]

Since all new cars have tire pressure monitoring systems there's no real reason to point that out.

[@NONO-hz4vo]

@@mofayer Guess you don't know how TPMS works. You can set it to work at 50 psi when the manufacturer has 40 psi on the door. Tire is still over inflated but TPMS is not triggered.

[@jaredstearns970]

I'm a mechanical engineer and have worked on cars all my life, and this guy still teaches me something new with every video I watch!

[@EngineeringExplained]

Love it, thanks for watching!

[@tuna5618]

Finally, more tire content. I was waiting for this.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Haha, there's more coming too! We did some *really* cool tests while I was visiting their Contidrom in Europe. It's gonna be fun!!

[@furkanozden7563]

Were you tired of other content?

[@PeterPanarchy]

I used to work at Discount Tire 10+ years ago and there was one specific tire I saw last over 100k numerous times. The Michelin LTX A/S used to be the OE tire on full size Rams and it wasn't uncommon for them to come in for their first set of new tires at or around 100k. The most I've ever seen was 120k, and even that set had a 3-4/32" remaining.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Wow, 120k! Love Discount Tire!

[@benigo15]

This video gives a clear rebuttal to the many articles claiming an electric cars weight is what is wearing out their tires in 6,000 miles. If the biggest factor in tire wear is how the vehicle is driven then it is the drivers enjoying “all that electric torque” that is wearing out their tires not the extra weight of batteries.

[@EngineeringExplained]

For sure, the instant powerful torque is addicting!

[@phukfone8428]

​@@EngineeringExplainedI was at the drag strip last night. Half a dozen people wanted to know what was going on with my hybrid Volvo. Not one person cared to look at the Tesla, one lane over

[@kepstin]

"Selection of vehicle" was also one of the top reasons for tire wear. If two cars are driven in similar ways and use the same tire size, then a heavier vehicle will wear the tires faster.

[@ProXcaliber]

This is very true! I recently traded my 2021 Acura RDX for a Tesla Model 3 long range just this year (Acura was a lease). My Acura, is a mid-size crossover and by the time I traded it in at around 27,000 miles it already needed to have its tires replaced. Luckily I didn't have to replace them since I was trading it in, but it surprised me considering the Honda I had before that had tires that lasted a little over 50,000 miles. Granted, I did drive the Acura pretty aggressively, and didn't always rotate the tires on time, plus it was front-wheel drive as well so that likely contributed to the faster than normal wear. I can't say that I am not enjoying the performance of my new Model 3 either! :)

[@infantryrecon101st]

It’s both.

[@Natural11001001]

If I have to pay a shop 1-2 times per year for tire rotations to have proper documentation for warranty, I'll spend a considerable portion of the actual warranty value on shop service rather than if I did the same rotations at home. As someone who switches from summer to winter wheels in their driveway seasonally, I've never found tire warranties to be useful.

[@EngineeringExplained]

I don't know what tire shop you use, but Discount Tire will rotate your tires for free if you have them installed there.

[@geemy9675]

​​@@EngineeringExplainedis it worth rotating staggered wheels ? for some weird reason fiat decided to mount same tires on different width rims on the 500e 😢 also 185/55R15 hard to find in store and way cheaper to buy online

[@DirtyMike2024]

I've always, ALWAYS had my tires prorated and warrantied. If you are paying for rotations in 2024 you are doing it wrong.

[@PeterPanarchy]

​@@geemy9675 Never rotate a staggered setup. Maybe side to side, but that won't accomplish much.

[@hadtopicausername]

@@PeterPanarchy Plus, if the tyres are unidirectional, they have to stay on the same side of the car.

[@RUSure2449]

30+ years as tire/alignment tech. Excellent information, I agree with all of it, and learned a thing or two also.

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

I had a Focus SE with factory Continentals and got 60k out of them with 3/32 still on them. Close to the legal limit but not bald. And even after 8 years of use they still had acceptable grip on dry pavement.

[@vicbauwens]

I had 95000km on my first set of tires on my g31 5 series. Vertically only freeway kms which makes difference too of course

[@lindhe]

It's important to distinguish between tire wear (which occurs when the rubber hits the road) and were tires (which occurs during full moons).

[@HiFiGuy1]

If you consider a Land Cruiser to be a "car", then I can unequivocally say yes, because I've had not one, but two sets of Michelin LTX M/S last for over 100k+ miles. One set was 116k miles, and one set was 109k miles, and only got replaced because of a puncture.

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

Size?

[@rubenramos-wp4nw]

Still driving on good tread ir alteady on slicks?

[@NONO-hz4vo]

Jeep Wrangler tires will also last near forever. The tires are huge for the size of the vehicle and the weight distribution is pretty even. Eventually the tires turn to plastic and the grip is gone but they pretty much stop wearing out as well.

[@davidjwillems]

I've had similar results with the same tire.

[@THEFERMANATOR]

I was gonna say the old original Michelin LTX M/S would easily run 100k+ miles with frequent tire rotations. I had close to 125k miles on a set of 215/75r15's on a Jeep Cherokee. My uncle ran them on his 1500 Silverado work truck and routinely got 120k hwy miles out of P265/75R16's. On most vehicles they would dry rot before wearing out. The newer LTX M/S 2 only got about 70k miles and were a real let down.

[@christiannasca3520]

The front tires of my Smart fortwo mhd did indeed last 140000 km (=88000 miles). And at that point they still had 2.5 mm of tread depth. I mostly drove it on highways commuting to work.

[@tomy8339]

Awesome video. I didn't get tired watching all of it. You really nailed the most critical points, where the rubber meets the road, without inflating your own opinion or deflating the expertise of tyre companies.

[@wyskass861]

Seemed very tiring to me. 😜

[@by9917]

in 96 I picked up a new Aerostar van really cheap (KBB showed it was worth more than I paid 2 yrs later). It came with some model Michelin tires from the factory. At 95k miles those tires still had plenty of legal wear remaining. I only replaced then due to age. The tires had become so hard that wet and snow traction was scary. This van was used mostly for long trips, but was usually loaded down with 5 kids and luggage, sometimes even filling the roof rack. These tires were not oversized in any way. Back then the stock tires were tiny 14in, compared to what is normal today. It is very surprising that factory tire could have gone past 100k miles. Edit: Forgot to mention that the van never got an alignment. Actually it only got to a shop once and that was on a trip. I did all maintenance except when I had no tools. One ball joint was replaced due to boot failure and one side wheel bearings were replaced, but I don't remember, and the bearings might have been after 95k miles.

[@antoniogallo3484]

As a Subjective Test Driver for the tire industry I found your video very interesting and well made as usual. I mainly work for the EU market and I can tell how different our market is compared to the North American one. Everytime I test 'ECO' products specifically developed for the North American market the performances are way way lower than the equivalent EU product, both for longitudinal and lateral grip, with a serious compromise towards wet grip and overall handling. The blanket is short and pulling it so much towards such long wear will inevitably heavily compromise wet performances to begin with. In the EU a summer tire lasting 40.000/50.000 real kms (hardly 30k miles) is already well done usually, driving happily it will be waaay less than that. Of course the standards, customer expectations (mainly from premium brands such as Conti) and needs between EU and N. America are different, but this always fascinated me. Another great difference is the American all weather tire vs the EU all season products, just looking at it and its grooves I would never say that the long lasting tire you showed would be suitable for snow/ice, I guess it will mostly just not crystallize as early as a summer tire but I would never dare to drive with that on real snow expecting any decent grip. If you would ever need somebody of my kind for collaborations feel free to get in touch, it would be a real honor and exciting opportunity, I could share with you my Linkedin if you like xD Antonio

[@paulsimpson8990]

I am 50 and still geeking out on tyres or tires for the Americans. I worst tyre life was 6000 miles on a small lightweight car that I threw around a mountain road every weekend and my best has been 60,000 miles on my Tesla which commutes up and down the highway. Tyre technology has come a long way and it’s hard to make a tyre that does more than one thing well. Remember if you buy cheap they will do one thing well and will be terrible at everything else. If you spend more on higher end tyres they manage to do everything well. I just replaced my Michelin ps4 for Goodyear asymmetric 6. These tyres are simply incredible for wear, grip, rolling resistance, noise etc. still amazes me how far they have come. Great video.

[@pawel7196]

I'll never get... tired of this content.

[@JacobShepherdEngineer]

Love the details. I worked at a tire store in high school and am now an engineer.

[@davidm7971]

The tires currently on my car are at 100k miles right now. Goodyear Assurance MaxLife on a Subaru Crosstrek.. Guaranteed by Goodyear up to 85k miles.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Haha I knew the Crosstrek could do it (see description of "ideal vehicle" in the video). :)

[@imacomputer1234]

Grip is way more important than mileage. Grip is directly related to safety. Always use snow tires in winter climates.

[@SailinCTD]

I got 110K out of Michelin defender tires on a 2010 corolla. 120 miles of daily commute on the interstate over a span of 10 years. The tires could have still gone for another 10-20k miles when I replaced them. They had a 90K mile warranty when i bought them in 2014. I bought a new set and they only offered a 60K warranty.

[@fabisnow6466]

I am just here waiting for a video on the Porsche 6-stroke engine ^^

[@jamesengland7461]

Oh, that's easy. The engine goes round and round, like a tire. The pressure in the cylinders goes up and down, like a tire in different temperatures. It has 5 strokes, just as some tires have 6 lug wheels. It even ultimately connects to tires. I mean, what more do you need to know? 😂

[@MonicaHolly143]

If there's a car that will do that, it would be a small light car. Kei cars or probably a miata, since its always the answer

[@_PranayW]

Hi Monica. Are you from India? 😊

[@davidm7971]

Tires on my 2018 Subaru Crosstrek have 100k miles on them currently.

[@volvo09]

​@@_PranayW probably a bit account with a stolen comment

[@_PranayW]

@@volvo09 I've seen someone joined KZbin in 2006. What are you doing ❓ Are you into IT industry ❓

[@MonicaHolly143]

@@volvo09 yeah im a bit account lol

[@BroMan360Bro]

We need an update on the maverick already!!

[@joshuaborem7063]

i bought a new Maverick 3 months ago. it's MEH.

[@ildrichaseron]

My brother's 2016 Mini Cooper only weighs just under 2,700lbs. Its stock tires finally reached around 2mm (2.5/32nd) after 192,000kms (119,000miles). Tire date was 09/16. After nearly 9 years, its time to finally change his tires.

[@infantryrecon101st]

I’ve tried every big and some small tire companies. Continentals are hands down the best tires in every situation, especially the true contact tours. No you won’t get 80k but you’ll have the best experience you can have with a tire for at least 60k or more. Plus they’re fairly inexpensive as most tire places will match Walmart online prices. And if you do follow all of the tire warranty requirements from continental you’ll have free tires when they don’t actually last to the 80k as advertised.

[@danny1103]

I usually buy a set of 4 tires with 80k warranty and then I don't always use brakes to slow down but rely on engine braking. I always schedule for a tire rotation every 10k miles, and if the tires didn't last until 80k miles I still get pro-rated refund on the next set of tires that I purchase. So I am saving $$$ in the long run. But then one thing I found out is that the OEM equipped tires (Specifically designed and installed on to the new cars by the car manufacturer) tends to not have warranty nor they will not last for over 30k miles because they claimed to use a "softer compound for more comfortable ride". Though if the car is a 3 yr 30k miles lease then you MUST replace all tires since they all worn below 5/32 by then, and when you replace the with the same new OEM tires then it suddenly comes with 50k miles warranty by the tire manufacturer.

[@MrHugemoth]

Had a flat on my 93 Toyota pickup and drove 250 miles on the original 30 year old spare tire to the tire shop. The spare had never been on the road and was badly cracked, but held air. It was a Dunlop BTW.

[@falsificationism]

This was an absolute banger of a video! So comprehensive and clear, and deeply nerdy in such a useful way. Well done!

[@gregorharrison1806]

Great video! Thanks both to you and Continental. While it's a popular tire decision factor, I think longevity should be a much lower factor in the tire buying decision process than the grip and performance in the scenarios where the vehicle is expected to be used. Grip in Wet, Dry, Snow, Ice, and robust toughness in long highway driving should be primary decision factors, IMHO. Luckily the tire manufacturers are not forced to choose just one tire to manufacture, so such decisions are not forced due to availability. Looking forward to a video on how Continental engineers tires for these factors.

[@Justin_LaNoue]

On staggered tire size vehicles, the warranty is generally cut in half due to not being able to rotate them.

[@jeremycassell7627]

Very interesting video! I’ve actually gotten right around 100,000k miles out of a set of tires I had bought brand new and put on my 03 f150 that had a fresh rebuilt front end with a good alignment. I did do a lot of highway travelling but a decent amount of gravel roads and city driving as well. I found 2 major things that made a difference and that was tire rotations consistently and making sure the air pressure was correct in the tires, especially considering where I live with the weather, the temperature swings seem to make a big difference in pressure.

[@davidpeterson620]

0:35 Geez! Are you really tall, or are tire engineers really short? (and thereby, closer to the tires)

[@mikechopa]

Got 6k miles out of OE Continentals on my Honda. First tire rotation and they immediately developed a nasty shake. Continental doesn’t care and won’t replace them. It’s also impossible to get in touch with anyone there…thanks a lot Continental. They will be replaced by another brand.

[@putteification]

They have a loose rating on non-roundness. Avoid if you can.

[@poochyenarulez]

I was hoping to hear about tire age too. I don't drive very often, so I'm more interested in a tire that lasts a long time in age rather than distance.

[@EngineeringExplained]

General recommendation (and Conti’s as well) is to replace them after 10 years if you haven’t yet worn them out.

[@knurlgnar24]

Small correction: Nearly all AWD vehicles today disconnect two of the wheels from the driveline above relatively slow speeds unless slip is detected for fuel economy reasons. AWD makes basically zero difference. On most vehicles 10 years ago it did. On my Nissan it's somewhere below 30mph.

[@samleary2733]

I technically traded the vehicle in before it actually hit 100k but I put 96k on a set of tires that were on my 2017 ram 1500. They were LT tires so they were a harder compound and had pretty limited grip in the rain but this can absolutely be done.

[@SunnyS3506]

Limited grip is no good in the rain, you are obviously an excellent driver but I would prioritise grip over wear any day of the week.

[@kjhjkhuih]

I drove 105k with one set of tires. Tesla Model 3 AWD + Michelin cross climate. I believe it’s due to Tesla’s unbelievable acceleration control, and smooth regen braking. Furthermore I cornered slow, especially on high ways. Also our roads are smooth

[@greasebeardsgarage]

Had a set of BFG AT KO2's on a 2003 Regular Cab Silverado Z71 that lasted over 85,000 miles. That sure surprised me as they came with no mileage warranty. Had good grip the whole time. Just got to the point they were close to the wear bars and I figured better safe than sorry and replaced them...with BFG AT KO2's that were on the pickup until I sold it. Factory Bridgestone's on the same pickup lasted less than 40,000 miles and nowhere near the same traction.

[@volvo09]

I've got about 20k on my K02's and I've noticed that they are wearing very slowly. Great tire, I've even done a couple little burnouts for a laugh.

[@rickrutledge9363]

I'm a semi truck driver. I've had steer tires (front) last over 200,000 miles. They take a beating too.

[@chaff5]

COUNTRY ROAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD Jokes aside, I wrote a paper/speech for my public speaking class and did a deep dive into tire construction. Not nearly as deep as this since the speech had to be 4-6 minutes but I learned a lot from it.

[@modernemod123]

Uniroyal made a tire in the sixies that held up perfectly in 4 season areas. A lot of people looked forward to buying another set years later only to find out Uniroyal deleted that series based upon its success.

[@EngineeringExplained]

There are several good true all-season tires these days! (with 3PMSF)

[@extragoode]

I remember the Uniroyal Tiger paw tires being dirt cheap and near perfect on my S10 back in the 90s

[@joe_the_pope1102]

My dad has a longish highway commute and put 100,000 miles on his first set of Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza tires on his F-150 and is currently still on his second set with 197k miles on the truck

[@NASWOG]

(‘12 passat TDI diesel). I got 155k mostly highway miles out of a set. They were front tires for ~40k miles and on the rear for the rest. They were still pretty good when i changed them, but winter was close, so i decided to change.

[@missingpiece2071]

seems like we need a rail imbedded in interstate roads and a rail wheel that is lowered from the car so that you can take maybe 80% of the weight off the vehicle when traveling on the interstate.

[@lawdog516]

You didn’t mention checking your tire pressure regularly, is there a reason, I thought tire pressure was important, thanks Jason

[@EngineeringExplained]

Sometimes you get wrapped up and forget the simple things - proper tire pressure is def important!

[@MascottDeepfriar]

this entire video was under the assumption that your tires were inflated properly. if the tires are not inflated properly you will cause uneven wear because the middle will either balloon out or collapse in (similar to the contour discussion 8:43 ). over time tires can leak small amounts of air but a bigger impact is caused by temperature changes leading to the pressures going up or down.

[@togitegan9889]

I bought my Impreza brand new and it came with Continentals ProContact TX tires on it. I just hit 100k miles and I still have yet to change them, though it's finally time to do so now.

[@frankvucolo6249]

Love your videos! I get that 10 year old tires are not a good idea regardless of wear. However, I don’t like Continental’s recommendation of replacing your spare at 10k. This has been stored outside of direct UV and is only needed to get you a handful of miles when you need it. In my book, if it holds air, it’s a good spare.

[@extragoode]

Especially if it's a donut, you're always driving slower and more carefully on that anyway

[@rkmbnt]

So tires can now last longer than timing chains, wet belts and whatnot on some cars. Cool!

[@TexasScout]

I have had tires on my Nissan Frontier last 91000 miles. It was just commuting 95 miles a day. Breaker lasted 140000 miles. Only five turns one way and only seven braking points. BTW, I only changed the tires because they had a sale at Discount Tire.

[@ericperich4390]

I have a set of good year tires and have 80000 miles on them right now and still has decent tread

[@ugetridofit]

I always choose the lower mileage tires. They are of the softest compounds and preform the best in cold weather. The higher mileage tires are of the hardest compounds and suck in cold weather.

[@kepstin]

In places that get really cold weather, it's common to have two sets of tires with different compounds, and switch between them depending on the season.

[@dwigts4887]

I have made a set of tires last 100k before. The model was hankook optimo h727, had a 100k warranty, bought in 2013. By 2023 I had hit 100k on them. The 100k warranty was why I chose the tire. The warranty itself is useless as discussed in the video but the amount they warranty for is a general guideline for how long the tire will last. I also ran the tires for several more years after it had become bald. It probably got bald at 70k. Eventually wires started showing and it became out of round. There was a tennis ball sized lump on one of the tires. I moved that one to the rear. When it blew out on the highway there was no problem with loss of control.

[@shakesnbake]

Tyre talk is the best!! I never knew there was a warranty on tyres! i have P Zero's on my car and just signed up to Pirelli's warranty. Thanks

[@Grafyte]

12:37 Jason described me to a T ... I guess we'll see if my Michelin Defender T+Hs make it that far. I know my clutch and brakes are going to last 100k.

[@Eyes-of-Horus]

Near to where I grew up was a the Mohawk factory. They had a bias-ply tire that was guaranteed for 50000 miles. This is when the tires had a problem at 25000 miles. It's secret was the rubber and the tread. Mohawks are still available and are still made for vintage autos with the actual tread design.

[@240Patrik]

I would say alignment is #1!

[@mm6705]

The higher the tire pressure run, the lower friction, the lower temperature buildup, the less rolling resistance, and the longer the tire will last. Its the biggest myth in the car world...that an overinflated tire deforms and develops a contour, wearing out the crown. What mostly happens is a straightening/stiffening of the sidewall, and an increase of ride harshness They just want to maximize wet grip and safety, but also sell way more tires. I'm part of a hypermiling forum, and we've done tread contact patch testing at various tire pressures, and there is ZERO change all the way up past 100psi on our special low rolling resistance tires (they have extra belting) Of course your tire's grip is dramatically reduced, and you have to have smooth roads to air up so significantly, so there is more risk involved, but the gas mileage change is huge. I run 70psi in my tires until there is snow on the ground, then I lower them. My tires last FAR longer than most people with the same tire/car, and I get far higher than average gas mileage due to rolling resistance. Sure I have to pay attention to road surface, and not dive bomb potholes, but I enjoy paying attention.

[@extragoode]

One of my friends didn't have a tire gauge with them, so they just "filled it up until the tire stopped bulging" and had driven on it for several days before I saw them and checked the tire. It had over 90psi in it! My gauge only went up to 90. I've run 5 to 10 psi over the max sidewall rating for years and can report similar results. I got a small puncture in one tire and the patch only holds about 35 psi and the whole car feels like something is dragging now.

[@JohnDlugosz]

Tire performance has steadily improved over the decades. There was the introduction of Steel Belted Radials. Then, over the last 25 years, they've just quietly gotten better. My Trans Am originally came with EGoodyear Eagle GS-C 275/40ZR17 which if you can decode that you'll see they don't last long, and they cost $1000 per set in 1999 dollars. Today, a common "all weather" tire offers good-enough performance for everyday driving.

[@adamjanowski84]

"what's the ideal vehicle".... lol - i see what you did there...!

[@EngineeringExplained]

Sneaky Crosstrek plug

[@adamjanowski84]

@@EngineeringExplained indeed. Your wit runs deep. Keep up the great content!

[@frankvucolo6249]

I bought a set of high mileage tires once. Hated every mile I drove on them! I now factor comfort and performance ahead of mileage. That may cost me an extra set of tires over the life of the car, but I enjoy driving it more enough to make it worth it. I have been liking Pirelli tires for comfort and performance. Just one man’s opinion.

[@KellySchrock]

I actually got a set of tires to last ~97K once. I had a 1993 Mazda B2200, a lightweight slow truck. At 3K miles, I needed an alignment because it was chewing up tires. So I put some Bridgestone tires on it and drove it for years without giving the tires a single thought. One day after work, I noticed one of the tires was flat, so I aired it up and drove home, at which point it was flat again. I went to have the tire fixed, and the tire guy strongly suggested I replace them because they had basically disintegrated inside haha

[@wyskass861]

I would have liked to know what and how much we're sacrificing in an 80k mile tire. As noted with all engineering being a goal oriented balance of compromises, what is the proportion of performance being compromised. I'd love to see different axis of this... Noise-wear-dry-wet-cornering.. etc. In terms of objective numbers, though maybe too much for this one video.

[@tc6818]

I had a Hyundai Azera (bigger than a Camry) where one replacement set of Michelin tires lasted 94,000 miles. Michelin 235/55R17 99H SL BSW Premier A/S. They were rotated religiously at Discount Tire. Michelin tires have a reputation for lasting a VERY long time. I was surprised you didn't mention proper inflation as a significant factor in tire life.

[@VeryRealAmericans]

I love the tire videos. So interesting! Please have more!

[@EnthusiastsGarage]

Got 100k miles on Michelin x tours from Costco on my 15 Corolla

[@nickolastiguan]

Never get tired of EE explaining tyres.

[@gringolatino97]

A rare miss by Jason not to mention tire pressure as a tire wear factor

[@gregrobsn]

I got 108,000 miles on a set of Goodyear Wranglers on a 1986 Jeep Cherokee and 103,000 miles on a set of Michelin's on a 2003 Ford F-150. In both cases the tread depth was over 4/32" but suffered from tread separation.

[@awkc63]

Because of you, my own research, I bought the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires for my Civic. Absolutely amazing tire for all around conditions. Dry Wet Show Ice Slush However, since I live in Southern Ontario, I do still use winter tires, and I use the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-80.

[@pututski6968]

Love learning more about tires. So interesting to see the dramatic differences they make

[@OPiguy35]

Would love to see updates to Michelin Cross Climate and potentially vs other tires? Maybe cross collaboration with “Tyre Reviews”

[@foe18any]

My last set of BFGoodrich KO2 A/T lasted for 75,000+ miles on my Chevy 1/2 ton pickup. They still had about 4/32 left on them but winter was near so I decided to replace them. Had 1,000 miles on a new set when a deer ran in front of me and totaled the truck.

[@borghorsa1902]

Remember the 1930 video "Around The Corner - How Differential Steering Works (1937)" with 21 million views? One fascinating fact about turning is that the inner tire would spin slower than the outer tire of an axle, that's why differentials are needed. However, the same "differential turning" occurs within the body of a solid tire where every time you turn, a part of your inner tire would rotate slower that the outer part. The wider the tire, the more is being erased at the corners ⚙📀💿🚗🚖😎

[@pooyakhalili406]

I will never get TIREd of your videos

[@rd4k04]

My 5 speed Honda Fit would go like 90,000 miles between needing tires.

[@adam145]

That's a light car and not a lot of power so both are probably very helpful. New cars are heavy and frequently have a lot of power/torque.

[@darrensteuber4994]

I have had a set of Michelin Defenders on my 2008 F250 4×4 diesel that went 110,000 miles. Another set went 80,000 miles and one slipped a belt, so I replaced them. The current set has 52,000 miles with plenty of tread left.

[@Mirceabalea]

You can do it if you drive mostly on the highway at constant speed. Tire wear occurs mostly on breaking and hard cornering.

[@mad-FrenchS203]

I managed almost 40000 km on winter tires even when driving under load/towing. I retrofitted my station wagon to 15" instead of the stupidly expensive 16" I had. From factory it should be 195/65/15 but since it's often used as a mule and uneven wear I changed to 205/65/15 for more comfort and less wear.

[@kellyheath8547]

I can personally testify about a 2015 Silverado 1500 on the factory Goodyear eagle that have lasted 115k miles. they are at end of life, but tread is still on them. tire pressure and driving habits seem to be the biggest factors.

[@g.tucker8682]

Great discussion, Jason. I hope you do a similar piece covering tire performance factors.

[@Argedis]

My 2800lb curb weight Mazda 3 has 7yr old Pirellis with plenty of tire tread left. No signs of dry rot yet compared to some Yokohamas that dry rotted in 4 years. Vehicle size and weight makes a huge difference despite smaller vehicles having smaller tires. The problem is modern 'small' vehicles are much heavier nowadays.

[@jonahshill7084]

it would also be really cool if you could make a video about how tyre compounds and construction might contribute more to 0-60 mph times that might be expected. and that the equivalent performances of vehicles, given that available grip is equal, is closer than is advertised by car brands

[@mrshaw5006]

More tyre engineering videos please! Very interesting, makes sense why they are so expensive now.

[@omnicurious2949]

It's interesting that the most wear and tear happens on the trailing side of the tire and not the point of contact with road.

[@CK-jd7wo-test]

Bring back bias ply for a more excitable driving experience

[@Justin_LaNoue]

They really let you feel one with the road imperfections.

[@jamesengland7461]

​@@Justin_LaNouethey're not imperfections; they're quirks and features!

[@altosack]

@@jamesengland7461- It’s not a bug; it’s a feature! I think I could feel it when I ran over a bug in my 914 with 50-series A008s! I used to joke that if I ran over a gum wrapper, it was OK, but if the wrapper was _folded,_ you better make sure your teeth were pre-clenched.

[@svenmorgenstern9506]

For REAL fun: try bias ply on the rear wheels & radials on the front, when you're driving a mini pickup at highway speeds. 😁 Did that exactly once - the fishtailing was epic! Truck was wearing all radials the next day. 😎

[@hanstubben]

On a motorcycle, sportbike in particular, you definitely can feel the difference between a long lasting tire or a grippier faster wearing one. I do feel much safer with tires that last only 5,000 miles than the ones that last over 15,000 miles. Make a video about multiple compound motorcycle tires with you can hang on extreme angles.

[@CraftwerksMC]

I think some tires can last 100,000 miles with good care of the vehicle suspension systems and the tire pressurees. I purchased a set of Falken Wildpeak AT/3 tires but in this case they were E rated tires on a 2013 Nissan Frontier. In the modern market that is considered a mid sized truck, but it is really not rated for E tires. I had the tires on for approximately 88,000 miles before I replaced them with the same brand but slightly different model that was advertised as a quieter ride and slightly also a smaller size because the Wildpeaks were larger than stock so it did throw my odometer off some, but technically the speedometer was 100 % correct according to GPS. I'm not going to try and figure out the math because its inconsequential but after taking those tires off I did so not because of wear but because of the amount of road noise they generated. I currently have them on a project vehicle that isn't being driven but I suspect I could easily get another 20,000 miles if I do not drive like a maniac once I start driving it.

[@jimm2816]

When I was young I remember my dad buying the first radial tires for his pickup, they were Michelin and had a 100k mileage rating. He easily got the 100k miles before replacing them with another set with the 100k rating.

[@jaredstearns970]

I seem to recall 100k tires when radials first came out. Not that they were that good, but they cost enough that the manufacturer could replace them in a certain percentage of cases and still turn a profit. Most warranties are never collected upon, it takes some work and most people say, "Ah, close enough". I don't doubt that your father genuinely got 100k if he had a light foot and long commutes, but that was by far the exception, not the rule.

[@cstalt]

My problem is tire lifetime (time since manufacture, not miles driven). I don't drive many miles, so I almost always end up replacing tires for tire rot / cracking after 6-8 years.

[@iansanderson]

My best friend got ~120,000 mi. out of a set of Michelin Defenders on his '02 Galant. We both couldn't believe it. The Defenders were discontinued of course, and no other model has come close.

[@ultimatist]

Great video! Surprised not to see one factor, that fortunately is becoming increasing solved for thru EV adoption: aerodynamics. So you drive your Suburban on a long highway commute and are gentle on brakes and thru turns... but think about the drag force at 80mph that is constantly manifesting as shear force on your tires. Another major reason why thoughtful drivers maintain a reasonable vmax.

[@extragoode]

But all passenger cars and trucks have fenders over the tires, so they're generally not seeing much wind. Even big trucks have air dams directing the air around the tires to improve overall drag, so the only part of the tire that's exposed to the wind is right before it rotates down to the ground, when it's traveling in the same direction as the wind, so has a lower relative speed. I still agree with you, but can't see how aerodynamics of a tire could be anything more than a minor variable.

[@ultimatist]

@@extragoode no, no, not the tire. The vehicle. Wind is constantly accelerating your vehicle backwards at speed, and the engine is putting force through the tires to cancel this effect when you cruise. Imagine a high drag vehicle at 90mph, and the constant engine and tire load to keep it moving.

[@L3001USPSA]

Yes, I've done it with a Michelin Pilot AS on a 2003 Diesel VW Jetta. Technically I made it to something like 99,983 miles. I only realized I was that close after getting a new set. The car spent a high percentage of it's time on the highway.

[@ninjmaster5609]

I would like a part 2 with all the extrem ends of the spectrum like dragracing tires or tractor tires

[@vivianrajan8618]

Goated yt channel

[@milescarter7803]

Please do a video on how a high performance car like the T.50 can use a relatively narrow off-the-shelf tire that wouldn't be out of place on a Miata/Fiat/Golf.

[@hw5533]

A pair of 215 45R16 Bridgestone Turanza tyres on my 2016 VW Polo lasted 50k miles. Its a light car with relatively wide tyres.

[@russellmassey2447]

All this makes good sense. I have gotten 50k on a Michelin, but on a light car (Satsun 510). I would never plan on more than that.