Horsepower vs Tires - What Actually Matters?!

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Engineering Explained

Engineering Explained

Күн бұрын

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@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
This video was an insane amount of work by everyone involved - really appreciate you watching!!! It was actually quite difficult finding a car that had the same tire size two generations apart, paired with an old tire model & size that was still manufactured today. Really fun test! Also - if anyone is in the market for tires, now's a great time to buy! Purchase a set of 4 qualifying passenger Continental tires between November 1 - 30, 2024 and get a $110 Visa prepaid card by mail. PROMO Link: bit.ly/4h8JHN4 This includes many of the tires I've recently discussed on the channel (ExtremeContact Sport 02, ExtremeContact DWS06+, TrueContact Tour54, Viking Contact 7, and many more)!
@nulnul332
@nulnul332 Күн бұрын
I'm so happy for you to hear that you had an awesome time there, and that you were on your element. You are such an inspiring person. Thank you!
@jimsgaragetoys
@jimsgaragetoys Күн бұрын
Jason, don't forget that if you have a Continental Credit Card through Tire Rack you get an additional $90 rebate for $200 total back!
@AmandaPandaPowell
@AmandaPandaPowell 18 сағат бұрын
@EngineeringExplained Please also test it when it is halfway worn down. The newer tire's threads are not cut nearly as deep as the previous tire.
@toddsmith8608
@toddsmith8608 6 сағат бұрын
​@@AmandaPandaPowellYes. We also need a treadwear test to see how many miles the tires last. Because if, despite the equal ratings, the new tires don't last as long, then you're just trading tread life for performance, and this whole video is a moo point. ... Like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter. Moo.
@Mantorix
@Mantorix Күн бұрын
That's the kind of sponsorships that I love to watch. Not a 60 second bla bla section but actual useful information that by the way promotes their products. Also: Thanks for all the great test results. I didn't expect the tires to make such a dramatic difference.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Really happy to hear it, and this is what I always try to push from sponsors - let's do something that I alone cannot do, and leverage their expertise! Really, really happy with how this came out - Continental has been awesome to work with, and they were happy to help me put my ideas to life at their facilities!! Can't thank them enough.
@Beanpapac15
@Beanpapac15 Күн бұрын
This kind of thing only works when you have an actual good product that you can stand behind. I'm happy to keep giving Conti and Michelin all the money I saved from not buying ridge wallets, athletic greens, and other garbage
@Techpriest1010
@Techpriest1010 Күн бұрын
Should've blurred the speedo lol
@just.jose.youtube
@just.jose.youtube 22 сағат бұрын
This!
@jayfangRSA
@jayfangRSA 6 сағат бұрын
👍 Marketing can be educational, rather than just an annoyance. Hope this is direction of the industry
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Күн бұрын
I have this video half shot, at this exact test track too lol. I ran it of time on that trip and haven't been back to finish it. Look forward to watching this❤
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Hahaha, you've done EVERYTHING!! 🫡
@yummyhershey5902
@yummyhershey5902 Күн бұрын
Would’ve loved to hear your take. Thanks for making great content about tires! It’s been very helpful in making decisions about what I should buy for my car.
@mistamaog
@mistamaog Күн бұрын
Yes! More tire videos!
@ultimatist
@ultimatist Күн бұрын
Was just thinking how much you guys need to collaborate on more tire material, and how it ties to the overall vehicle platform. Do it for science 🤓
@WERT2025
@WERT2025 Күн бұрын
Cool to see you here! I bought a set of ContiSportContact 7 based on your review. And happy with them, feeling confident in the rain.
@mnejmantowicz
@mnejmantowicz 23 сағат бұрын
Just bought a set of EXTREMECONTACT SPORT 02 because of this video. Continental please support channels like this. More substance than glamor! Keep up the great work Jason.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 22 сағат бұрын
🙏🙏
@AmandaPandaPowell
@AmandaPandaPowell 18 сағат бұрын
Please let us know the performance when it is worn down
@stevesamuel263
@stevesamuel263 16 сағат бұрын
I run them on a 700hp C6 Z06. Can’t beat high performance tires that come with a tread life warranty, and still isn’t crazy expensive
@Lucky008aau
@Lucky008aau Күн бұрын
Detailed, thorough, entertaining. I'm sure many will complain.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Hahaha ❤❤
@JinX-so5yv
@JinX-so5yv 14 сағат бұрын
Few hours after video is up and your prediction already has proven to be correct 😂
@swimmerboy172
@swimmerboy172 8 сағат бұрын
You guys must go searching for negativity. I don’t see a single one in the comments. In fact this is the closest one with the negative sentiment that “many will complain”.
@gonzalosanchez9589
@gonzalosanchez9589 Күн бұрын
if Adrian Newey says that a car design starts with its tires, you shut up, and listen.
@TML34
@TML34 Күн бұрын
Yes, I’m sure a Camry design started with its tire choice. 😂
@bvedant
@bvedant Күн бұрын
Calm down kid
@juancuelloespinosa
@juancuelloespinosa Күн бұрын
at the most fundamental level, f1 cars are trying to load the tire as much as possible in all driving conditions. you cannot go faster than your tires will allow after all.
@petergerdes1094
@petergerdes1094 Күн бұрын
@@juancuelloespinosaTrue but that's why aerodynamics is so important. The tire performance is proportional to down force after all.
@b0nz1official
@b0nz1official Күн бұрын
​@@TML34the suspension design of a camry starts with the tire choice. As it does in every vehicle.
@76horsepower
@76horsepower Күн бұрын
I had a set of Continental Extreme Contact Sport tires on a 1987 Acura Integra for a few years. With those tires, I was competitive while autocrossing against 9th and 10th generation Honda Civics with nearly 100 more horsepower but on all-season tires.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Amazing! And also - those folks need to drop the all-seasons if they're hitting autocross haha! (If they're going for times, that is, if it's just for fun, send it!)
@TakeoHope
@TakeoHope 23 сағат бұрын
When I was doing autocross we were always wondering if stock class with r compounds would be faster than the modified classes tha required street legal tires. When I first started everyone said stay in stock. You're not having more fun in in modified, but you're spending more money.
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 22 сағат бұрын
We have a guy that's smoked folks at autocross in much newer cars, year after year. A little driver skill, and some good tires went a long way. His times were comparable to that of his dad, who would often have one of the fastest times in his FD RX-7, while he was driving a barely modified 2000 Civic Si. Those two are excellent drivers, but also make good tire decisions.
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 22 сағат бұрын
​@TakeoHope if everyone you're autocrossing with says that, they're probably right. Also I need to look at the rules I haven't in ages. I thought running an R tire put you in modified. Or maybe I misread your comment.
@TakeoHope
@TakeoHope 22 сағат бұрын
@@goosenotmaverick1156 This was scca 20 years ago. The rules may be a little different at this point.
@albertsousaiv
@albertsousaiv Күн бұрын
If donut did this video it would have been a 6 episode series with half of the data. Thank you for providing so much for us!
@rushinlad
@rushinlad 16 сағат бұрын
Aint that the truth
@GarageSupra
@GarageSupra 13 сағат бұрын
the channel Tyre Reviews does it better without bias.
@elsapon
@elsapon Күн бұрын
Continental has just scored my next tire cycle. Thank you both for the excellent content!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Appreciate it, thanks for watching!!
@thomas_coast
@thomas_coast 8 сағат бұрын
imho they're the best winter tires too
@MrKuerbiskopf96
@MrKuerbiskopf96 6 сағат бұрын
And motorcylce tires
@spcneary
@spcneary Күн бұрын
This is a fantastic comparison. I thought maybe the tire advantage would even the playing field, never would have guessed the tires make more difference than the car.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Thanks - yeah, it's really impressive to see, and I think really drives home that tires play such a critical role in performance!
@ChristianStout
@ChristianStout 21 сағат бұрын
My dad tells me the greatest leap forward in car technology during his 65 year lifetime has been the jump from bias ply to steel wall radials.
@thomasdurant7907
@thomasdurant7907 Күн бұрын
The most interesting thing about this, to me, is that my HP All Season tires only perform as well as a two generation old summer tire, both wet and dry. This really shows you what you loose opting for All Seasons, excluding the much shorter tread life. I couldn't afford to commute on Summer tires and am perfectly happy with my choice, but now I know what's possible with my GTI.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Yep; all-seasons can certainly make sense depending on your needs, but if you can manage to swing a summer tire in the hot months, it's super rewarding to drive!
@FurryWrecker911
@FurryWrecker911 20 сағат бұрын
Back when I used to play a crap ton of Forza Horizon 4 there was a weekly challenge involving playing Playground Games in a snowy park using old school muscle cars. There was a class restriction which limited what all you could upgrade, and putting snow tires on would exceed the limit except for one car, a Pontiac Firebird. The tradeoff was the Firebird was gutless, but you could turn on a dime. Every. Single. Game. that I had played in the Playground was full of people that were driving the cars with higher power ratings on stock tires. I could out-accelerate, out-brake, and out-maneuver all of them because I had the one thing they didn't, grip. I could have told a story about my real world experiences, but the video game story is far more memorable to me in demonstrating the effectiveness in a more entertaining approach.
@bobo-cc1xw
@bobo-cc1xw 13 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your service
@kyleroberts4841
@kyleroberts4841 Күн бұрын
A comparison I never thought about but loved every second of it.
@mattbonaccio3522
@mattbonaccio3522 7 сағат бұрын
The thing I think is crazy about the "old" tire is that, 10 years ago when I was first getting into cars, that particular tire was considered the best summer tire in the wet. It's truly incredible to see the progress Continental has made!
@DxCBuG
@DxCBuG Күн бұрын
I have some new SportContact 7s on my hot hatch since spring this year. I drove on an curvy on ramp, basically a solid long corner going 80km/h (50mph), 3 degress outside and wet... and i could not belive this - this car gripped and even allowed to drive with speed. And it felt safe, no rubbing no stuttering not single bit of sliding. New tires are amazing, the dry grip is even more bonkers
@v12-s65
@v12-s65 Күн бұрын
I run them both on my e53 coupe and grecale trofeo. On winter tires both cars are horrible, but with them, it's like on rails
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Күн бұрын
Tires are [hopefully] the only part of the car actually touching the ground, so it shouldn't be surprising that they're important. But it is amazing how rapidly they've developed in the past few years. Most people probably thought tires were a solved concern decades ago.
@kalabash72
@kalabash72 Күн бұрын
We all know how much Jason loves oil and by larger degree, tires!😊
@altosack
@altosack Күн бұрын
Well, tires _are_ oil.
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 Күн бұрын
@@altosackpartially, good tires also use real rubber, it’s a major component to the price difference.
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 5 сағат бұрын
@@altosack tires are made of oil but don't oil your tires.
@jeffhidalgo6037
@jeffhidalgo6037 Күн бұрын
The old tires are gonna lose I think
@leksasdf
@leksasdf Күн бұрын
The moment we heard that Continental was involved, it was pretty clear 😂
@Lassitude1001
@Lassitude1001 Күн бұрын
@@leksasdf Yup, the "sponsord by continental" gave the answer away.
@joeboxerrr
@joeboxerrr Күн бұрын
@@Lassitude1001as well as the "TIRES ARE EVERYTHING" thumbnail
@Southghost5997
@Southghost5997 Күн бұрын
Yeah, that was obvious. Tire tech doesn't go backward. More interesting to know by how much.
@petergerdes1094
@petergerdes1094 Күн бұрын
@@leksasdfTBF that doesn't mean it's wrong, just that they had something that made them look good they wanted to share.
@pooyakhalili406
@pooyakhalili406 Күн бұрын
I've seriously been thinking about this for a long time. Turns out I'm not the only one. Thanks Jason
@Ficon
@Ficon Күн бұрын
I'm a Michelin man because Conti refuses to sell a 3PMSF four-season tire in the US but what an excellent video. Tires are by far the cheapest and most impactful upgrade you can make.
@marcokrueger3399
@marcokrueger3399 Күн бұрын
Also: You have to get some new tires sometime, anyway. Don't buy cheap tires!
@lptomtom
@lptomtom Күн бұрын
The AllSeasonContact 2 isn't sold in the US? It's a great tyre!
@Ficon
@Ficon Күн бұрын
@ Nope!
@LMacNeill
@LMacNeill Күн бұрын
I knew tire technology had improved over the past decade or so. I just didn't realize how *much* tire technology had improved! Wow! Those are some seriously impressive results!! I think back to when I was a kid in the '70s, and most of the tires out there were bias-ply. (Sure, radials existed, but bias-ply was still far more common.) Can you imagine comparing *those* tires to a modern tire?! The first car I ever bought (in February of '88) was a '76 Oldsmobile Cutlass S. Bought it from my neighbor who'd bought it brand new in the fall of '75. It had bias-plies on it, no joke! Atlas bias-plies from the local Gulf station. Best thing I ever did was upgrade those tires to a nice set of radials. Those bias-plies were like driving on ice when you were on dry pavement! How did any of us ever survive?! 😂
@skyhop
@skyhop Күн бұрын
It makes me wonder what a GT40 would do with the most modern summer tire.
@abhayvadhavkar2231
@abhayvadhavkar2231 Күн бұрын
By far my most favorite KZbin channel. As an engineer myself, I love this.
@minwookim1933
@minwookim1933 Күн бұрын
This makes carwows and other KZbinrs drag race and braking comparison between the different cars pointless
@nicolamontori
@nicolamontori Күн бұрын
Bingo. You can watch it for entertainment value, but trying to assess anything without proper tyre parity is pointless.
@MrKuerbiskopf96
@MrKuerbiskopf96 6 сағат бұрын
If carwow is comparing the cars on factory tires it shows the manufactures choice. They may could have done better but chose not to for whatever budget reason. Changing tires for more perfomance than is the customers choice.
@drfisheye
@drfisheye 6 сағат бұрын
Carwow isn't testing new cars with two-generation older tires.
@JaZoN_XD
@JaZoN_XD Күн бұрын
Thank you for putting this together. I always wanted to know, whenever a manufacturer came out with a new car and they claim it's "3 sec faster around Burgerking" if it's really the chassis and suspension improvements and power, or it's mostly tires. Ie. going from F80 M3 to G80. Now we know. Basically you can achieve almost same performance as new car just by upping the tires :)
@MiamiHiFiMan
@MiamiHiFiMan Күн бұрын
Simply AMAZING Jason! E Cubed! Entertaining, Enlightening and Educational!!! One of your best yet!!! 💪👍
@mistamaog
@mistamaog Күн бұрын
I prayed for something like this. Thank you and Continental for feeding my excitement for tires!
@rekire___
@rekire___ Күн бұрын
I never tired hear Jason's jokes, keep up the good writing man
@MrHyyh
@MrHyyh Күн бұрын
u mean TIREd?
@Ollie2846
@Ollie2846 Күн бұрын
What an experience for you,and an awesome way to illustrate the importance of picking the right tire.
@jeremyd826
@jeremyd826 Күн бұрын
Way to deliver this information! Instead of usual people wasting time and talking about stuff that doesn't matter your whole video is very informative and useful. Thanks to everyone who worked on this video
@markaruski
@markaruski Күн бұрын
Thanks Jason, I never tire of your engineering explanations!
@bvedant
@bvedant Күн бұрын
I watched this while eating brake fast
@76horsepower
@76horsepower Күн бұрын
Many years ago, I decided to leave my autocross tires (shaved Yokohama A008s) on the Honda CRX Si that I owned and drove it to work that way for a few days. The tires picked up every rock on the road, but the cornering speeds on my commute were incredible. I remember thinking that, at that moment, I might have the best-handling car on the road in the city.
@NathanaelNaused
@NathanaelNaused Күн бұрын
That's a fun thought experiment and I would believe it too
@n8marsh
@n8marsh Сағат бұрын
This is incredible information! Never buying a new car again, only buying the best tires I can. Thanks for doing this, the results are fascinating.
@jimsgaragetoys
@jimsgaragetoys 23 сағат бұрын
Fascinating! While watching this I was telling myself that you have to swap the tires on the cars to dealing get a true reading of what was happening. I was so happy when you brought it up. It would have been interesting to see how a current set of DWS 06+ tires would do on both cars compared to the summer tires. I run the same size on my 2009 Corolla Turbo S 5MT so that was nice to see that was the tire size tested.
@merciless9285
@merciless9285 Күн бұрын
continental is such a sick partner, use their tires on multiple cars
@Jakiita1
@Jakiita1 7 сағат бұрын
The end made me so happy for you!!! I love seeing you smile like that when you were sharing how you felt about having this opportunity :3
@crash5811
@crash5811 17 сағат бұрын
Should repeat this comparison, on cold dry roads and snow
@TheDCJason
@TheDCJason 11 сағат бұрын
It'd be better if he did it with winter tires. You don't want to run performance tires in the winter.
@crash5811
@crash5811 8 сағат бұрын
@TheDCJason thats kind of the point tho. Cpmplete every weather test. What are the tires going to do IF you run them in temps theyre not necessarily designed for
@waffle911
@waffle911 17 сағат бұрын
I put the Extreme Contact Sport 02 through their paces this past summer on my warmed-over 3rd Gen Mazda 3 hatch. I ran down a Focus ST, 350Z, ND Miata, Forester STI, an old E63, and a 550i at the FCP Euro Proving Grounds at Lime Rock Park. Power has its place on straights and coming out of corners, but tires and talent are important everywhere.
@donhappel9566
@donhappel9566 17 сағат бұрын
Any driver with seat time at a track will agree with you 1000%!
@Drewbmw07
@Drewbmw07 8 сағат бұрын
Great video & amazing amount of useful information. Having ran both sets of tires on multiple performance cars I can genuinely say these are some of my favorite summer tires. Currently running the 02s. After a year & about 5,000 miles I can’t complain.
@vancecook2171
@vancecook2171 Күн бұрын
Continental tire is so amazing for this! This totally swayed me and I will be getting contis for my next tire. Thank you all who made this video possible.
@sherizaahd
@sherizaahd Күн бұрын
So, don't buy a new car, buy new tires!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Haha exactly!
@adame52
@adame52 7 сағат бұрын
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen on YT. Thanks, Jason.
@JimmyRoland
@JimmyRoland Күн бұрын
killer video man. loves these deep dives and comparisons.
@Locke99GS
@Locke99GS 12 сағат бұрын
Great performance is awesome and all, but ... I'ma regular person that doesn't go to the track, and doesn't even hardly drive spirited on the streets. I use my car for getting groceries and trips and stuff. I live in Houston, so I don't need winter or even all-season capabilities. A summer tire would be awesome. However, I also don't want my tire to wear out super fast and I don't need ultra high performance rated tires. What I really want is a summer tire, that sacrifices ultra high performance for reduced tire wear. I want my tires to last. That's all I really want in a tire. My car came with Potenza RE04's back when it was new in 2014. Great tires, and the car handled amazing with them. However, they wore out very quickly, even after I stopped driving aggressively. I ended up putting some decent all season tires on it because I wanted longevity over the performance, I believe some middle ground can be had, summer tires that last a long time, but I've never found them. Is this a thing that exists, or something that tire companies could do? Lots of people don't need all season or winter tires, but also don't need high performance. Actually, I think almost everybody that lives in the south of the US doesn't need high performance, but also doesn't need all season or winter. Why not a long lasting summer tire for the millions of people that live in the south that just use their vehicle for commuting and other mundane normal people things?
@nicolashuffman4312
@nicolashuffman4312 8 сағат бұрын
Something like 20 years ago we got huge news that a Miata modified by Racing Beat and fitted with racing tires managed to pull 1.0g in lateral road holding. These days, a modified Miata with street legal max performance summer tires can pull something in the 1.2-1.4g range. At least from a tire perspective, we live in wonderful times!
@K0Kaz
@K0Kaz Күн бұрын
Funny, I went from ExtremeContact DWs on my previous car to ExtremeContact Sport (01s) on my current one, and although the cars are completely different, I was pleasantly surprised by how much better the newer tire performed across the board, which I didn't expect.
@NathanaelNaused
@NathanaelNaused Күн бұрын
Finding a functional mk6 GTI was the most impressive part of the video for me. The next most impressive was the wet handling difference between tires/generations. It does make sense though when you really think about it
@volvo09
@volvo09 Күн бұрын
That test track looks like a lot of fun!
@superphoenix_srt7477
@superphoenix_srt7477 6 сағат бұрын
I’m upgrading my redeye tires to these thanks to you! Great video
@youbous4572
@youbous4572 5 сағат бұрын
Your content is like Chris fix, entertaining, direct, and detailed
@just.jose.youtube
@just.jose.youtube 22 сағат бұрын
The sparkles in Jason's eyes in tyre's videos are unmatched. 🤩😄
@timoschatzinikolaou5046
@timoschatzinikolaou5046 2 сағат бұрын
Would be interesting to see a straight line acceleration test between the two setups. And compare them with the factory stated numbers as well. Really enjoyed the video keep it up Jason!
@Matthew_Campbell_Drums
@Matthew_Campbell_Drums 23 сағат бұрын
I love how you take your sponsorships and turn them into valuable information! Your passion for tire technology inspired me to do a speech about tires for my public speaking class. I even quoted you in the speech!
@Robbythegod
@Robbythegod Күн бұрын
Can you give a breakdown of how the tire works? What is actually happening and why does it work better?
@edubarbi
@edubarbi Күн бұрын
Making it much easier to swallow (read justify) expensive tire purchases! Thank you. I'll prefer Continental from now on. Dope marketing strategy.
@AlliKatUwU
@AlliKatUwU Күн бұрын
It’s so cool to see the data and how much a new gen tire can do for older vehicles
@0c0cpcpcpck48
@0c0cpcpcpck48 Күн бұрын
The extreme contact 02 is a truly jaw dropping tire. I could not believe the grip it had especially in the rain. It was like the ground wasn’t even wet Can’t wait for summer to come back around so I can put them back on my car
@EkiToji
@EkiToji 22 сағат бұрын
How is the road noise? I decided to try a few other tires after I had one of those older ExtremeContact DWs because my winter tires were just so ridiculously quieter. If the new ones are great while managing to care about road noise I might have to give them a serious consideration.
@0c0cpcpcpck48
@0c0cpcpcpck48 21 сағат бұрын
@@EkiToji I drive a miata so to be honest the loudest thing that I hear is the wind noise in the cabin lol. I can't even hear the tires unless I try to focus on it. I'm running a set of Michelin pilot sport AS4s and I can tell you the 02s are quieter than that set of tires. Tire rack has done a review on them here on youtube and it was the quietest tire they had on the test against other competitors
@N1mbleOne
@N1mbleOne Күн бұрын
Very interesting video, I watch a lot of Nurburgring content and they very often speak about tires, especially the "Cup 2", they really do make a big difference.
@2008tourer
@2008tourer 2 сағат бұрын
That is absolutely bonkers hot the technology progressed! My jaw was on the floor when I saw wet braking comparison. Signed, AllSeasonContact 2 user, bought thanks to a certain Jonathan
@stefmunky
@stefmunky 23 сағат бұрын
I put the Conti ExtremeContact Sport 7 on my Mk 7.5 Gti last year and it's like it gained 25 hp and a suspension tune. They make every sharp turn the highlight of my day. It's absolutely insane ow much last gen premium tires count to the overall performance of a car.
@craig8187
@craig8187 21 сағат бұрын
A great example of tyre difference over just 2 generations and what makes me laugh when people compare cars from the 60's 70's 'muscle car' era with modern cars. Major tech difference and the tyres these older cars ran were just useless. Id love to see this same type of test using 60's tyres on a modern car and vice versa! Great video
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Күн бұрын
Super testing, great results. Thanks a lot for bringing us along. Cheers 👍💪✌
@CitEnthusiast
@CitEnthusiast Күн бұрын
What an awesome video, great info. Had no idea tire tech was getting so much better with each generation. I drive a bunch of classic cars, and in the Citroën SM world people keep telling me the Michelin XWX or XAS is best for the car, but I run modern tires and feel I get equal or better performance. It would be great to learn if I'm right, this helps a lot in making that argument.
@alexflosho
@alexflosho 23 сағат бұрын
Now I need to see a comparison like this for Continental Sport O2s and Lexani UHPs (the cheapest tire on Walmart’s website)
@AH-lw2bj
@AH-lw2bj Күн бұрын
13:04 More grip means faster acceleration out of the corner as well, especially a FWD car
@Your-Senpai
@Your-Senpai Күн бұрын
Can you all at least watch till the end before commenting?
@TheDCJason
@TheDCJason 11 сағат бұрын
I usually pause the video and comment on a specific point so I don't forget. Then finish the video. Is this what you're referring to?
@TS-gg9dk
@TS-gg9dk 6 сағат бұрын
Very interesting video and results! Before you said it, I thought: ”Yeah, the tyre might have been launched all those years ago, but they surely must have made improvements on it through the years, so that it is not the same tyre as when launched?”
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry Күн бұрын
It's not like Conti benefit by throwing the test anyway, since this is their tyre vs their older one, it's not saying they're better than other manufacturers. Not sure about the US market, but older versions in the same range here (UK) don't even usually seem to be cheaper, e.g. For my car, Eagle F1 Asym 2s are 5% pricier than Asym 6s, while the Pilot Sport 4 is only 1% cheaper than the 5. The marketing benefit to Conti is: they did this test, which is great. I'd love to see some properly tyre-adjusted laptimes of old cars somewhere, see if the newer ones really are always faster by more than the difference. I'd bet the results are close in a lot of cases...
@mmsautner
@mmsautner 23 сағат бұрын
This is a fantastic and well thought out comparison and excellent explanations! The most shocking thing for me is the overhead shot of both cars braking on the wet track. The MK6 is so much smaller than the MK8!
@dsb1984
@dsb1984 16 сағат бұрын
I think it's worth noting that I recently bought new tires. And the Continental's were a really solid mixture of performance, price, and longevity. But beyond that, I was also confident purchasing them in part because the seem to have a commitment to transparency as shown with the multiple videos. That also played a factor in my decision-making. So, whoever in their marketing department decided to partner up, it was a good call.
@dB_944
@dB_944 Күн бұрын
Here goes mk6 and mk7 prices through the roof!! Thanks. 😊
@SrKinko
@SrKinko Күн бұрын
Mk7 prices have *been* through the roof lol
@bvedant
@bvedant Күн бұрын
@@SrKinko I would rather take a sixth or 8th generation, made in 🇩🇪
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 5 сағат бұрын
@@SrKinkosince when? They seem pretty cheap for what you get. IRS the best bang for buck sporty hatch out there. Lots of power capability and not much $$
@SrKinko
@SrKinko 4 сағат бұрын
@@JacesOwnWorld the desirable ones are still expensive, 2019 SE's with good options and low mileage for example. I ended up jumping up to a 2024 since the Mk7s I was cross shopping weren't that much cheaper and with worse financing options.
@AvinaashKuppusamy
@AvinaashKuppusamy 16 сағат бұрын
Thanks for giving me the experience of you experiencing your experiences!
@thezenlife65
@thezenlife65 Күн бұрын
I am so impressed by this, Thanks for the great video.
@soyeux27
@soyeux27 14 сағат бұрын
What an incredible video ! Thank you Jason !
@adan507
@adan507 Күн бұрын
Nice data, nice video and sure looks like you had a great time. Kudos man, keep the good work. Without any data, the main difference i felt with my new car was on having sportier tires no doubt
@ghostwrench2292
@ghostwrench2292 19 сағат бұрын
Fantastic video! I love tires and I know how important they are for car performance but to see it quantified like this was absolutely brilliant! Thanks so much for this!
@ashwinmohan4503
@ashwinmohan4503 Күн бұрын
Hey Jason, nice video as always.. Really good stuff. I was about to jump the gun and say put the old tires on the old car and new tires on the new car, but you had it all figured out. In reality I dont think a 1 or 2 % difference will make much sense to the average driver.. But, we all love seeing lower numbers from generation to generation. Thanks again kind Sir 🙂
@AntaresHiS
@AntaresHiS Күн бұрын
Great video! Just to make sure, did you ask whether the old and new tires are comparable in terms of softness/hardness of the compound? It could be that they just made the new tire softer, resulting in better performance but worse mileage.
@richsarchet9762
@richsarchet9762 Күн бұрын
They have the same treadwear rating, for what that is worth.
@NathanaelNaused
@NathanaelNaused Күн бұрын
Literally the same thought I had
@NathanaelNaused
@NathanaelNaused Күн бұрын
​@@richsarchet9762Unfortunately not worth much, but a good starting point
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
That's why I mentioned they're the exact same treadwear rating (within a single manufacturer, this means they will basically have equal tread life).
@castortoutnu
@castortoutnu 14 сағат бұрын
Same goes for bicycle tires btw. A good set of tires absolutely transforms how a bike handles. I recommend the Schwalbe Marathon Efficiency for commuter/normie/training/hybrid bikes. Seems expensive but it's worth it.
@spitfireinvasion
@spitfireinvasion Күн бұрын
I love how much you love tires. It’s actually contagious…
@georosculet6505
@georosculet6505 56 минут бұрын
The conclusion of this video is the slogan of one of Continental's competitors🙂 What would also be interesting is knowing if the gains in grip come with the sacrifice of the total distance driven with a set of tyres.
@ethanjones4678
@ethanjones4678 Күн бұрын
When we went England for the Aston Martin Driving Experience at the Millbrook Proving Grounds they had us turn up and down the embankment using the gas pedal with our hands off the steering wheel, very trippy!
@JB-bs9rj
@JB-bs9rj Күн бұрын
I’m glad you did the 3rd test. I just wish you would have done a 4th test of old car with old tires.
@bernardomotard
@bernardomotard 20 сағат бұрын
I installed a complete set of pilot sport 5 on my car and its unbelievably good in wet. It feels better in the wet than some tires in dry
@A2dy
@A2dy 20 сағат бұрын
Honestly the level of good study design here is praiseworthy! You could probably publish that data :)
@Jeo-What
@Jeo-What Күн бұрын
Another excellent relevant test review that actually benefits every car driver & owner. Well done and Thank you.
@antibrevity
@antibrevity 21 сағат бұрын
Glad that you made this as consumers *really* need to better understand that tires are the most important part on their car. Cheap, generic tires not only tend to be poor values in terms of both handling and longevity, but they can be downright dangerous. You can be a cheapskate about many things, but not when it comes to tires.
@thelittlehooer
@thelittlehooer Күн бұрын
Proper science done here, love it! I'd love to have seen a pure lateral grip performance test done on a circular skid pad to compare the lateral grip of each car and tire as described in "The Unfair Advantage" by Mark Donohue. (Awesome book BTW, highly recommend it to all automotive engineers) Also, what was the weight difference and weight distribution between the two cars? was the lighter of the two ballasted up to the other? I once read that car and tire manufacturers test their products in county Wicklow, Ireland, where we import roads from Afganistan when they are done with them. Have Continental done this?
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs 15 сағат бұрын
I love your tire videos! This comparison is one of my favorites! Thanks for creating this excellent content! 😎👍
@upstartmyst3734
@upstartmyst3734 Күн бұрын
I'm sure these differences would be even greater with heavier vehicles as well. I drive an 03 Acura MDX, not something you do anything sporty in, but it has a lot of power, and is a full sized crossover, so it weighs a decent amount. Watching this made me realize that I should probably make sure it has some good tires on it, sooner, rather than later, especially with it being a heavier car, that is all wheel drive. It drives very well in unoptimal situations, but it doesn't always stop super well. All wheel drive, does not mean all wheel stop, and I'm probably going to buy some good tires to make up that difference because of this video. (also, I really want a GR Corolla, but I'm gonna wait about another year so insurance isn't as expensive. Really jealous that you were able to get one.)
@middleclassthrash
@middleclassthrash 2 сағат бұрын
This is the exact content I've always wanted. More.
@Wised1000
@Wised1000 22 сағат бұрын
Excellet review. Everybody probably knew that the tires were going to be crucial, but how much is amazing.
@vancecook2171
@vancecook2171 Күн бұрын
This was an amazing video to see! Thank you so much!
@wrestleshute
@wrestleshute 19 сағат бұрын
I have a Mk8 GTI, a few months ago I upgraded the stck wheels and tires with these very same Conti EC Sport 02. They are fantastic tires on a fantatstic car
@willemkanon4020
@willemkanon4020 21 сағат бұрын
The second time you showed the wet track, i realized what i was looking at and started sweating. This guy is driving aquaplan walhalla full send. No helmet. Looking like a sweet dad. What a badass.
@FeldMonster
@FeldMonster 22 сағат бұрын
Fantastic video. I have thought about this a lot with respect to the Car and Driver Lap Lightning and Nurburgring lap times. I want to see more older cars on newer tires!
@Warmine000905
@Warmine000905 Күн бұрын
I'm loving that Continental is running the R8 steering wheel on the Golf
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Күн бұрын
Hahaha, that might just be me, ripping around in an R8! :)
@itsunoshiyuga
@itsunoshiyuga Күн бұрын
tyres are the best investment in your car. safety and performance per dollar
@dorianleclair7390
@dorianleclair7390 3 сағат бұрын
Been hearing this for years that better tires will improve lap times over doing engine mods. Cool to see data to back up. I run the dws all season on my 2011 STI and is a great all season tire.
@danielwoodard680
@danielwoodard680 19 сағат бұрын
Terrific subject. Excellent video. Well conceived. Well executed. Thanks.
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