Can a Sasquatch Ford Bronco Keep Up With a Modded Wrangler & Defender When It Gets Serious Off-Road?

[@Dolencd]

The fact you guys listened to us babling about tires is one of the main reasons you’re doing so great on youtube. Well done.

[@jabroni6199]

They were doing pretty well back when they insisted on OEM configurations too

[@raionshishi8290]

@@jabroni6199 Like seriously, people babbling about tires was a bit imo childish and completely taking away from the point of the video which was to test factory vehicles with factory giving properties.

[@jabroni6199]

@@raionshishi8290 I agree. If I had to pick one, factory config is the way to go. Luckily TFL is testing both factory and modified versions of the same vehicle. So all good with me.

[@AHungryHunky]

@John Dillermand I third on that, once you start tossing mods into the mix it becomes much more difficult to compare vehicles because you stop comparing how the vehicle was built and instead start comparing how the owner modded it. I actually kind of wish TFL would have gotten a Non-Squatch Bronco because to me the Squatch isnt the "Rubicon" of the Broncos, the Badlands is. The Squatch package is more like an add on on top of the "Rubicon" level Badlands that jeep answered with the Xtreme Recon so comparing a Squatch Bronco to a Rubicon Wrangler isn't fair unless the Rubi has the Recon package.

[@hippiebits2071]

@John Dillermand I agree that absolutely has its place but I do value comparisons where at least all the vehicles are running the same or very similar tires offroad. Tires just make such a huge difference

[@romeshprakashpalan8895]

The owner of the Defender and Wrangler seems like a seriously cool guy. He genuinely seems to love all these vehicles and was enjoying himself. I appreciated that he wanted to share his vehicles with the world and did not seem like a brand snob. A pure enthusiast. Love it.

[@stout_tossme7541]

For real. He seems to love any of them.

[@cotrails8356]

Thank you! We love each for different reasons and they all have somewhere that they could improve. We have a 4Runner as well and we’re waiting for our Bronco Badlands to arrive sometime next year to round out the fleet👍

[@stout_tossme7541]

@@cotrails8356 that is awesome (4 runner included in your fleet)

[@arnage9345]

He's rich

[@jamesweigh3178]

@@arnage9345 so what?!

[@trplll100]

Before I was born my parents had to stay at the Ronald McDonald House near Milwaukee for over a year as my brother tried to battle cancer. My parents were struggling financially at the time and I remember hearing so much about how much it helped. Growing up I heard a lot about this and see the way that my Mom throws money at it now that things have improved for them whenever she has a chance. As much as your videos trigger me with my lack of a Bronco, and now the Gladiator I ordered in place of it (as the Gladiator plant shuts down) I'm reminded that things could be much worse. Thanks!

[@dennisblass]

Ronald McDonald do a great job wherever they are located. The Ronald McDonald House in Birmingham is one of the best.

[@nathanreeve2319]

Our daughter had some heart issues, so we spent a lot of time at Primary Children's Hospital (Salt Lake City) during her first month. The RMH does so much to help parents when they need it most. Having been on the receiving end, I can tell you this is a worthy charity.

[@colorwlz]

We stayed there for 5 months when we had our twin boys at 24 weeks while on vacation in Arizona. Fantastic place.

[@mikethatguy27]

🙌💯✌

[@Notreallyme377]

There is some good in the world

[@jakecease]

The only reason that defender didn’t flip was because of his giant balls weighing down the driver compartment. Awesome rig

[@humorss]

literally, the driver weight must have helped.

[@kevinhood9781]

His ass puckering the seat is what saved him

[@Oilngld]

I think his ass was tightening so hard it was gripping the Boulder underneath!

[@peaceandrelaxationwithgodscrea]

I love how steve with the defender is not afraid of pushing it, considering how much money involved

[@mikeallen6127]

Well he is advertising.................

[@ChasePalmer]

He owns a dealership... it's the equivalent of a Matchbox car to him.

[@haziqehsan]

Because money...

[@fknbastages]

He could have demolished it and it wouldn't be a big deal. :-(

[@BB-pg5kl]

The Wrangler in this vid is pretty much the same price. It starts at 75k and then they said 15-20k in mods on it lol

[@JustinKingOffroad]

i'm legitimately impressed with the bronco's "off the showroom floor" ability. knowing that area... it's not joke. cameras often flatten things.

[@grisa12345]

Wheeler Lake is a tough trail, no doubt. The Bronco is impressive.

[@mattbrew11]

Have you ever seen what a stock rubicon can do?! Lol

[@JustinKingOffroad]

@@mattbrew11 yep I've owned one. I stated I'm impressed with the broncos off the floor ability.

[@SkilletsUSMC]

Well being fair, it's loaded full of what used to be mod upgrades for most other vehicles. The Bronco has not dethroned the jeep at the top, but it's the new #2.

[@mechmat12345]

@@SkilletsUSMC lol, unless you want to drive more than 5 mph. Then it's better at everything. The Wrangler does exactly one thing better than a Bronco: rock crawl. The Bronco is the better all-rounder and it's not close.

[@1leggeddog]

This is the content people want with the Bronco!

[@Marmaduke00]

Yup! And for that price tag, it better hang with a modded jeep..

[@phillipdavis1847]

@@Marmaduke00 how much is a 392 Wrangler? Add what he said was 15k worth of mods to that. Last I heard a 392 Wrangler was in the 70k range.

[@bestamerica]

hi K M... ' oh no... bronco is a lousy pool vehicle

[@tri3pleagent]

@@Marmaduke00 that modded Jeep is at least $30k more than that Bronco. You sound crazy.

[@Marmaduke00]

@@tri3pleagent so that is a 100k Jeep?? You sound crazy

[@zachariahyager3115]

Well that was awesome. I didn’t want it to end. The Bronco is certified legit.

[@justinjeffries1554]

Its actually insane that the Bronco is THAT good stock. That sort of just...Locked in my saving plans.

[@Bacnow]

I feel ya bro! I reserved my Bronco in July and get to order it in Oct for a possible March 22 delivery!

[@ELEDUCADITO1]

How much at the door with all the timings?

[@richlewandowski1902]

Yes, I never thought of getting a Bronco until I started watching these videos. Very impressed!

[@kyler9890]

@@Bacnow oh wow, yours got delayed? Mine sitting at dirt mountain, and it in group 2, so hopefully i’ll have it by November!

[@Bacnow]

@@kyler9890 - Not really delayed! I have not ordered it yet because i was told i’d have to order a ‘22 model (which I personally prefer) and the order banks for ‘22 won’t open ‘till Oct! My dealership will be contacting me in the next few weeks! I hope you get the bad boy for the holidays! That would be an epic holiday gift for you and your family!

[@js_NaClT]

Let me just say that THIS is a LEGITIMATE off road vehicle review/test, well done!

[@ivannarvaez367]

The Bronco was the most impressive. Cheaper than the 392 and the Defender without a bunch of mods and still did almost everything in the trail. What a machine!

[@nycmaverick]

This review was dripping with Bias

[@ivannarvaez367]

@@nycmaverick Yeah I love TFL, but they can be a bit Jeep biased sometimes. Love the content, though.

[@jurassicaquatics8931]

@@ivannarvaez367 he is to much of a fanboy

[@LandParkColby]

I don't know about the bias too much, it was more under control this time ... but yes, the young Roman loves his Jeep! But remember, he is young and he is a good driver!

[@josephbyrnhopf2481]

"did almost everything" Ever sat at a poker table with a good hand that "almost" won after three raises? That's the feeling "almost" will give you wheeling an "almost" $50,000 SUV. Especially when the modified $10,000 beaters are passing you by.

[@BernonCars]

Talk about a heart stopper seeing that Defender almost tip!

[@cotrails8356]

It was a precarious position! Looks worse than it really was

[@NateDawg0007]

@@cotrails8356 It looked like it almost made it too. Seriously impressive. The top heavyness of it and lack of articulation vs the wrangler made it start tipping right when it finally found traction while the Wrangler was able to power on up once it got to the same spot.

[@cotrails8356]

@@NateDawg0007 Big Bertha would make it up on a dry day. I think the Bronco in stock height might also be able to pull it off as well. It was really wet/ muddy in the hole making that obstacle much harder than usual…

[@mattperkins2073]

Holy crap. I’ve been waiting for this video. These guys are by far the best off road reviewers on and off KZbin. Hope they keep having success!

[@tonychalmers9867]

The Bronco appears pretty impressive, the Wangler is what it is and did nothing I wouldn't expect it to. The Landrover is interesting though. From what I've seen the main issue with it is the lack of room for bigger tyres and smaller wheels for "proper" off roading. The Defender was never designed to rock crawl. Its target market was people who want to pull a horsebox, boat or large caravan/trailer. The reason you can't fit 16 inch wheels on one is because the brakes are too big. It's brakes are that big because it has twice the towing and payload capacity of the Bronco. They are just meant for different roles. They are all "lifestyle" vehicles but there are many different lifestyles.

[@crushman2]

The fact that the bronco is completely stock is super impressive to be keeping up with the other two vehicles that are heavily modified

[@krismine99]

They would've been fine just swapping tires and wheels on the defender with no other mods.

[@djplonghead5403]

The stock Jeep did better than the stock Bronco in their stock video. Both were very impressive.

[@alanj7306]

The Bronco is no joke. For a stock vehicle, it’s pretty impressive.

[@rossthercguy554]

Yes

[@gasoline7954]

ikr, its such a joke.

[@09zelkcat67]

@@gasoline7954 👆🤡

[@djames5363]

It’s 70k, buy a 40k Jeep and put 20 into it and it’s still better

[@hughmac13]

@@djames5363 The Bronco is $70k? Jesus, what's the Defender I don't even want to know.

[@CokaRolla]

TFL originally “We want to show how capable the base defender is off road” *fast forward 6-8 months and 3 defenders later* “Look how capable a modified defender is!”

[@chuckersw]

Haahaa! Yes! I wonder if Roman doesn't play golf with that Land Rovet guy? I would have long gave them that thing back to them.

[@nintendad2099]

😂 ikr… That truck was made for executives that want to pretend at off-roading while going to their beach homes or second homes. LR is overrated imo

[@adrianharrison5208]

@@dpav02 well said

[@rollingreclinerRecumbent]

Really great content here Tommy. Edge of the seat exciting. Ford should be smiling.

[@trailboss7504]

@@mikesters3532 You mispelled Kreep or FIAT btw

[@JC71444]

@@mikesters3532 better than the chevy blazer re-release LOL

[@baileymitchell6650]

@@mikesters3532 Ford made a major competitor in the market for off-road SUV’s why all the hate every car company has reliable vehicles now days even Hyundai quit being a fan boy

[@Ta50039]

TFL Team: You’ve seriously upped your game lately. Great work across the board. Keep crushing it!

[@jamesonward5141]

Front locker on the Defender would have made a huge difference.

[@PilotChip]

So would a little articulation…

[@dartmoordave]

@@PilotChip Don't get that on IFS.

[@dartmoordave]

Ideally you shouldn't need one with traction control. But watching the close up shots I don't get why the TC is so slow to respond where a locker would operate in 1 wheel revolution?

[@MrPallwaul]

@@dartmoordave it needs ATRC 😀

[@stn7172]

And swapping to solid axles

[@rpmrallysport7071]

Bronco - HOLDING IT'S OWN - with the other 2 beasts. I love it more now, I can't afford one, but love this Bronco machine.

[@robertchow8829]

I'd love to see a 2 door Bronco with the Sasquatch package in action.

[@michaeloltman657]

I’d like to see that too.

[@parisconstantinidis4645]

Yes! Can’t wait

[@stout_tossme7541]

Yes!!

[@L0ver80y]

This is exactly the off road Bronco me and my wife want.

[@Propelled]

So will your grandkids…😅

[@TheJoker-qn6vw]

Ford just hit it out of the park with that Bronco. For that price, with what it offers and what it can do...it's a winner.

[@antonioalvarez9087]

It was cute how the kid in the Wrangler scrambled to save his dad, he knew IMMEDIATELY what to do...probably not an uncommon occurance for them LOL

[@venom5809]

That Defender is gorgeous. Also of that's medium difficulty what the hell does hard look like? 🤯

[@zachallard2737]

They don’t take obstacles like that into considerations there is a bypass

[@Johny9405]

ATV only

[@incomingincoming1133]

upside down.

[@vanderz1012]

Bronco did really well for a stock vehicle amazingly done by Ford it is definetly a worthy contender for the Wrangler can't wait to see the Xtreme Recon vs the Sasquatch

[@TheAeswein]

Awesome video! I love that you listened to the comments and brought the modded vehicles out to compete with the Bronco. That's what everyone wants to see... a Jeep on 39's is really the pinnacle of vehicle capability and a Defender represents all the fancy off-road tech that MFG's are now creating. Super impressed with the Bronco and cant wait to see what the aftermarket crowd does, or even Ford with the upcoming Bronco R/Warthog! And the "pooh" comment almost made me spit out my coffee lol. Good job!

[@adrianharrison5208]

Hats of to the Bronco! I am thinking about getting one myself and I am a big land rover fan

[@sammyjammy6647]

That’ll be $70,000 please

[@adrianharrison5208]

@@sammyjammy6647 depends on what model I suppose a person is going to buy

[@DMAX-ed7pq]

You ain’t lying. I wanted a first edition but therereservations full. I specd a fully loaded 4 door badlands 63500 plus about 5k in tax here in California where I’m at 🤦‍♂️

[@adrianharrison5208]

@@DMAX-ed7pq That is what I would expect for a fully loaded Bronco

[@FJUH]

@@sammyjammy6647 or you can get a Defender for a similar price and spend even more to make it as capable as the Bronco.

[@VDPEFi]

The defender looks like it's fighting the terrain whereas the other 2 are flexing to meet it. The bronco is seriously impressive. Definitely my pick.

[@MorningNapalm]

The Defender is huge and heavy, it is not surprising. The Jeep is a toy by comparison. By the way, I am not sure where the Defender struggled or had to work hard, and the Bronco didn't? The Jeep has a solid front axle, but the Bronco not, and my impression was that it was #3 in this test.

[@javiermaldonadodedios2294]

It was great to see what a Defender can do. Thanks for listen us! You're doing a fantastic job!

[@time_on_target]

The air suspension on the defender makes it look like it’s on “pogo sticks”. The lack of suspension articulation in the defender doesn’t inspire confidence over uneven terrain. The bronco with a small lift and 37’s would be even more impressive.

[@danielmembrillo6472]

Yeah, it needed a front locker for this video. Surprised at how shitty it did. Dude also needed to use a little more skinny pedal but was probably afraid to.

[@MigueMax1000]

@@danielmembrillo6472 I’d be afraid too with a vehicle that expensive with all that extra money on it

[@Sapient55]

Land rover, Toyota and Ford build vehicles for the road first while jeep wranglers are still designed with off road capability the #1 priority. Thanks jeep for not selling out to the masses that rarely go beyond the gravel road.

[@LandParkColby]

@@BeanerMan3k Well, I am sure a stock Wrangler would do well - but that 392 was "heavily modified" - impressive, BUT the Bronco - holy crap, all STOCK and not afraid! Love it!!

[@joshuawalcott321]

@Joe Huff he is right Toyota hiluxes and land cruisers are the vehicles of choice . Its rare to find any American vehicles

[@evrenyilmaz4864]

So excited about all the new vids with bronco

[@MartinBettler]

Sad it must be a surprise the Defender is a capable off-roader. It sure rocks in this configutation tho. But most impressed I was by the effortlessness of the Bronco, actually - what a crowler! Would have liked to see that in comparsion to an equal (susp./tires) Wrangler.

[@patricklinkous]

Considering the Defender wasn't designed for rock crawling and this example is heavily modified, it did very well.

[@dutrizooable]

The defender (like many other LRs) is a good offroad vehicle. The problem is when "car says no" - you will get a failed sensor in suspension and it will deprive you of lockers or low range because they overcomplicate everything. When that christmas tree lights up, you're on your own.

[@TheColorado4wheeler]

You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, but spend enough money and you can make a mighty capable sows ear. It may topple over one day as well.

[@plus790]

@@patricklinkous You can do a lot with $120,000.

[@patricklinkous]

@@plus790 Absolutely. I wouldn't start with a Defender though.

[@madisonwalker8288]

Hey im so glad you acknowledged the comments! And I have also been seeing that Defender build all over instagram, stoked to see it in action!! Big props !

[@michaelwaiwood5629]

That Jeep is an absolute beast!! Love the look and sound of that 392. Bronco did well too for stock.

[@RhinoXpress]

Ford hit it out of the park with the new bronco and I've always been a jeep guy who's saying this. Ford made a believer out of me with the new bronco.

[@krasnaludek298]

Same here - I own a Jeep JLU. Went and saw the demo Bronco at my local dealer & it’s nice.

[@bellasky83]

It is almost as capable as a wrangler. It is definitely a good try by ford.

[@blkngwinn]

@@bellasky83 Almost as capable as a stock Wrangler or this highly modified one.

[@gerardcianci582]

@@blkngwinn didn’t see the bronco go up the v notch, that’s where it has a hard time keeping up. Also if you are into off-roading your not keeping your rig stock. I wheel a rock crawl buggy with rear steer. Its fun watching highly modified vehicles trying to take the same trail or line as me, usually end up using a winch lol.

[@khakiswag]

@@bellasky83 almost? Please tell me what a Wrangler can go that a Bronco can’t?

[@samr.6182]

The Bronco did great and is in stock configuration. The others are lifted and the wrangler has a big v8 and larger tires. Go Ford. Great job on that Bronco right out of the box.

[@Snookchaser007]

Do they offer 35” tires on the stock rubicon

[@jaimeduncan6167]

I don’t like how it looks , but boy is it a fantastic off-roader.

[@taurussho86]

@@Snookchaser007 now they do

[@ChristisKing117]

@@Snookchaser007 I believe they have a model now or coming that comes with 35’s or 37’s.

[@ayresc56]

The 392 has absolutely no bearing here. A Rubicon with the Extreme Recon package and 3.6L (still less money) would be an equal comparison vehicle to the Bronco with the Squatch. They’d still be fairly equal in capability with the Rubicon having the advantage when it comes to tight space maneuverability.

[@ripfletching]

If you think about it the bronco is probably the best all-around off-road vehicle on the market it drives amazing has fantastic off-road ability has endless upgradability built beefy I’m loving this thing I believe a bronco might be in my future but I probably would get the two door I would love to see y’all test the two door bronco

[@mav4516]

If you think about it, it's like an M1 Abrams tank. Not particularly super on something specific but does everything really well.

[@trailboss7504]

@@mav4516 not super?? Wdym

[@mav4516]

@@trailboss7504 Maybe a bad choice of words the Abrams dosen't excel at any certain ability it's just really good at everything. The Bronco is like that, it doesn't really excel at something specific it's just good at everything

[@chrisnelson9411]

Endless??????? Put a 6inch lift and do a Rock Crawl 🪨 😂😂 that Bronco won't get far without snapping a Cv axle yall don't even have a 6 inch lift for a Bronco yet

[@BlackHeartModer]

They will never take it high speed desert running, it will do stuff that the solid axle jeeps cant.

[@stanfordbanks3399]

Great test Tommy, the defender did great and I love the way it looks both inside and out. The Bronco was spectacular for stock. I can only imagine what it's full potential will be once you put a 5 star tune and 37's on her with a 4 inch lift. The Bronco is NO JOKE... The jeep made it all look so easy... That's all I have to say about that...

[@natehoule567]

To be fair, the Defender didn’t fail that obstacle. It was doing it! Understandably (and wisely) the driver pulled the plug but it’s premature to say that it can’t make it. I would have loved to know what the infotainment inclinometer was showing right there. I think Land Rover claims something around 45 degrees? I’m sure that number is a bit worse with how high it’s been lifted. Regardless, phenomenal video and thanks for making this happen! Glad to see the Defender on level terms show what it can do.

[@YeatzeeGuitar]

That front locker makes such a big difference on the Bronco. Impressive.

[@TecDLogic]

I mean for a stock vehicle, the bronco did pretty good actually, kinda impressed

[@trailboss7504]

@Feedthe5000 only in rare cases , Ok Kreep keyboard warrior no go cry somewhere else

[@trailboss7504]

@Feedthe5000 Because I mostly heard these words from crying Kreep keyboard warriors

[@benjaminagnic8763]

I mean. What can u do to it orher than give ot bigger tyres and a lift kit. It already has everything

[@mrcoolrv]

I really wonder What will happen if bronco is tested at Ladakh valley and Himalayas in india !

[@trailboss7504]

@@mrcoolrv Ford will never sell Bronco in India

[@cesarpalmos8235]

Im actually impressed by how much articulation the stock Bronco has...as far at the front control arm mounts on the back, I think a +2" lift will do the trick!

[@trailboss7504]

@@mikesters3532 ok boomer

[@mrpasciak92]

Why would it cost a lot?

[@mattbrew11]

@@trailboss7504 boomer? Hes right and im half a boomers age

[@bobby26050]

@@mikesters3532 actually they said pricing for the lift won't be that much. Hell, even the leveling kit for the bronco is like 150.

[@mechmat12345]

@@mikesters3532 You clearly don't know shit. Lots of lift kits for IFS vehicles are $1500 or less plus a few hundreds bucks to install.

[@kevincraftsbcs4488]

I love and welcome them all: The Bronco, Defender and the Jeep are all amazingly capable off road vehicles! This was such a good adventure to watch. The Defender looked like it was gaining the traction it needed to make the V Notch climb but could have used some more weight on the front to keep it balanced. A little downward force on the front on the vehicle would have stabilized it enough to make it up. I have seen people holding or strapping down vehicles in extreme situations to keep them from rolling or flipping, especially 2 door jeeps on a steep rock drop off descent. The Jeep is a tried and true offroad champion, the Bronco is an amazing new offroader of equal capability, and the new Defender is rig that can hang with the best off road while still providing on road performance and refinement. Out of curiosity I wonder how the Mercedes G550 4x4 Squared with the right tires would do on this trail. Having a diversity of vehicles keeps things fun and interesting.

[@Shooter11B]

I think the Bronco really showed me something, especially running factory options. Imagine what will happen when you get to put serious stuff on it!

[@joel.7372]

That V-notch looks one difficult obstacle and the Defender scary top heavy, although still did excellent.

[@barchetta06]

I know.... if only the Bronco would have tried it for comparrison

[@sternumboy1]

I don't blame Tommy for not wanting to chance rolling their brand new, hard to get, going to get sold for charity Bronco.

[@ruandreyer8732]

different line with defender, like at the end with wrangler, and the defender would have walked this obstacle as well..

[@TheAshPriyam]

Now I love the Bronco even more 😚

[@scotturich]

That got me pumped can’t wait until my order for my Bronco Squatch comes in!!!

[@06RedfireGT]

I'm really loving this Bronco content. I hope the guy at Ford who was giving you crap over that leaked Bronco picture is eating crow because this is incredible advertising. Keep up the great work.

[@rod1951]

This really showed the Bronco's capabilities, great video.

[@johngrodski4158]

That 392 is a work of art

[@adampolselli597]

That thing looked like a billy goat going up that v-notch at the end.

[@malifestro3319]

On the rock around the 17:00 minute mark, you can see that it looks like the Bronco has more articulation then the modified Defender. That's amazing!

[@lanceislateagain]

It's got a solid rear axle and a sway bar disconnect. It should.

[@arnoldikedichiokpani4305]

Check out 17:54! That Bronco flexes like crazy!

[@raionshishi8290]

@@arnoldikedichiokpani4305 First time i watched it i was like "hmm, it seems to flex at least and didn't lift", but looking at it again, holy shit, it does flex a lot more than i had thought for a stock vehicle. That's really good for IFS.

[@trailrunnah8886]

The Bronco DOES have more articulation. Between the solid rear axle, and the fact that it's not driving around on its tippy-toes all time, which is effectively what the lift on the Defenders doing.

[@DRTMaverick]

It does have more articulation than the defender- 4" of lift doesn't mean it gained 4" more wheel travel.

[@ttgautam21]

Best anticipated series on TFL offroad… will watch it again obviously..

[@smartalmos95]

That 392 burble is something else. There is nothing that can stop that beast. Bronco did amazing for a stock vehicle. The defender nearly stopped my heart. It was thrilling and scary at the same time. Loved it. Such an amazing content.

[@timricks1149]

That Defender is a BAD ASS looking machine

[@werdcrime]

Great job on this video, love seeing someone getting the Bronco out there and using it. The built 392 and defender were also cool to see.

[@sjw811]

Ford definitely has a winner, it’s packed with enough capability off the showroom floor to tackle some serious trails without the “will it get me home anxiety”. You shouldn’t have to make drastic changes to defeat that anxiety.

[@elchucofried5683]

And no warranty issues since it comes from the factory like that

[@RSDX99]

So this trail is more than I would ever attempt in my future Bronco, I want to offroad, not climb rocks. fits my needs just fine plus I can drive it to the trail. Don't need to trailer it.

[@anonym3017]

yep. there's a huge difference between an offraod park that's made to be difficult for the hell of it and offroading to get somewhere.

[@emi123nem]

@@anonym3017 lol and Wheeler lake is an old mining area that's now a trail NOT a park.

[@mechmat12345]

@@emi123nem Except you're not driving that to go somewhere, it's just for dicking around. Driving around difficult obstacles is just as effective as going over them if you don't have a fragile sense of manhood.

[@emi123nem]

@@mechmat12345 Well shows your level of ignorance... FYI the destination is Wheeler lake at the summit .. atleast try to get your facts right the next time .. there's always google when in doubt

[@anonym3017]

@@emi123nem and as you might notice from looking at the video closely every single larger obstacle had a way to drive around it. Clearly placing the trail in the "hard for the fun of it" section of off-roading and not the "I wanna go somewhere" section.

[@Nolgore]

This series has been nothing short of amazing. Really impressive stuff

[@alimundra]

I just finished watching part 1 and I found part 2 right down. You guys are one of the best in making off-roading videos.

[@bigslacker666]

Awesome vid! It's great to see the potential of the Defender even if it takes $15k worth of mods to unlock it. It looks like it has really incredible traction and great angles, that wheel lift is scary though. Bronco is amazing too out of the box! Imagine what it'll do with a 3" lift and 37s!

[@jenniferbates9769]

It doesn’t need it. The Defender can be optioned from the factory with off road tires.

[@bigslacker666]

@@jenniferbates9769 Did you watch the very beginning of this vid and see what happened to the 'offroad' tires on TFL's defender???

[@jenniferbates9769]

@@bigslacker666 yes I did. They had low profile 20” tires. Mine came from the factory with 255/70r 18’s Goodyear Wranglers. It also has locking diff, snorkel and a wading depth of 35”. It’s plenty capable

[@bigslacker666]

@@jenniferbates9769 You're talking about a 2.0 equipped defender. The TFL truck and this one are i6 which means you need new brake calipers to run an 18 and a lift to run 35s. I'm not saying you have to do that. I'm sure your defender is capable, they have great angles and traction. But if you want to run trails like the one in the vid (or the rubicon where I live) you need more.

[@DriveCarToBar]

I imagine with a lift and 37" tires, it will probably start breaking tie rods and eating CV joints. Same thing that always happens to IFS rigs.

[@ec6933]

Dude when that driver side started to raise up I freaked out I really thought it was going over and you know if it looks like that on camera and realized it was way crazier props to that guy I'm not even sure I'd take you brave you just flat out insane

[@8bajwa8]

I got so stunned spilled my coffee all over me

[@bullitt4930]

Excellent video. Three awesome vehicles out doing what they were made for. That stock Bronco is no joke...very impressed!

[@ScottWallace5]

Such a great video pushing the abilities of each! The stock Bronco definitely held it's own and held up well among the others!

[@Offshore1977]

Another great video. That Defender looks like it has very little wheel travel. That Bronco does so well for being completely stock. Does as well as highly modded Wranglers.

[@NateDawg0007]

That Bronco is truly impressive rock crawling even with the compromises. That rear control arm causing problems was definitely done like that for high speed stability when desert running. It's clear Ford wanted it to be able to do everything and considering that, it's impressive how well it holds up to the jeep. It's pretty clear it will never be better than a Jeep in a pure rock crawling scenario because of the IFS compromises but it's certainly not far off and I'm sure plenty of people will be willing to make that same compromise for the better on road handling.

[@khakiswag]

In order for it to never be better than a Jeep rock crawling would mean the Jeep can go places a Bronco can’t. I’ve never seen a Jeep go anywhere a Bronco couldn’t. And I’m talking about stock vehicles. However, the Bronco can do something the Wrangler cannot, high speed desert running.

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@khakiswag - exactly, these Jeep fanboys get caught up in rock crawling which is a tiny percentage of off roading and I still have yet to see a scenario where the Bronco can’t go where the heep cant. Put them both on some sand dunes and that little poor jeep will never catch up

[@NemeanLion-]

@@CoyoteFTW You sound just as bad.

[@KurNorock]

It's like that for cost savings. They could have mounted that bracket up between the frame rails and further forward on the vehicle, then used a longer control arm. Same geometry, better offroad, more clearance, more cost.

[@leeku7768]

Yessss it’s finally here. Legends at TFL

[@MoY206]

What I learned today? 1) The Toyo tires are pretty impressive. 2) Air suspension sucks for off roading besides for ground clearance. 3) The Bronco is pretty capable for a factory stock vehicle.

[@SomeOne-sy6bt]

The defender just looks amazing....

[@10K2HVN]

"Defender", of all of the platforms to run Portal Axles, that would be the best candidate. It would be the new "G-wagon 4x4(2)". Moreover, that customer base would be able to afford it. Subframe spacers is just sub par engineering.

[@grey5135]

I'm still waiting for the Brinco Raptor (Warthog). That's the one that will make the Bronco a dream vehicle. With 37's like the new F150 Raptor and the same 450hp and 510lb ft torque twin turbo engine. That would be so epic.

[@karanvirvlog]

Of course

[@kaseyod113]

450/510 numbers are with the hybrid I believe. Too lazy to go check it out, so I’ll hope I’m right

[@freedomisntfree_44]

Coyote would be better

[@grey5135]

@@kaseyod113 I don't think they make a hybrid F150 Raptor. But the Raptor engine has 450/510 atlest according to the article I referenced. Are they going to be making a hybrid Raptor? Now you have me wondering.

[@grey5135]

@@freedomisntfree_44 it would sound better for sure but it has less torque and HP than the twin turbo V6 in the Raptor. And it's heavier than the twin turbo v6. For an off road vehicle 500 hp and 500 torque is more than enough and you can get that with just a tune on the Raptor engine

[@tomguertin7713]

Great video guys. Bronco is no slouch..

[@TalkingHands308]

That Jeep was just there to supervise the children, lmao. That was a walk in the park for that Wrangler with those tires. The Defender held its own for having IS front and rear. I want to get a Bronco next year though, looks so nice. I would get the soft top though...

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

👋😂👌I agree!👍 lmfao!

[@moreuggaduggas]

If you want a top, hard tops will be better next year but if you want soft top, buy bestops top, our factory one sucks

[@TalkingHands308]

@@moreuggaduggas I'll keep that in mind. I'll check out the hard top on next year's model to see if they improved it, thanks.

[@russcattell955i]

The highly modified Jeep is really impressive. One issue, I'll say right now I don't know U.S. vehicle regulations, but in Europe all the Jeeps in this video are not road legal. Therefore cannot be used on public trails, only private land. Yet we have the new Suzuki Jimny & enduro bikes are road legal !

[@TalkingHands308]

@@russcattell955i Pretty much anything is road legal here as long as the basic safety features are present like headlights, tail lights, horn, bumpers, and some other stuff...

[@mountainmanjim6366]

This trail is in my back yard.. you cannot understand how difficult these obstacles are and how impressive these trucks did until you see these in person. I've seen many many modified Toyota on 37s, jeeps, izusus, Nissan all fails these. That first hole is a killer. When the tire is inside, it has to climb a vertical climb of about 24" to get out. But wait, if you pick the line like the jeep does, if you miss the ridge, the entire rig will slide sideways. His extreme wide stance and 39" tires helped tremendously. I've often considered taking my 10 Nissan titan up just to see what itll do, but 1 mis step and I won't have a 10 Nissan titan anymore lol

[@cotrails8356]

Agreed. We couldn’t get the drivers side on the ridge at the base in the Defender as the passenger rear wouldn’t be able to get up and out of the hole. Had to straddle both to attempt to get up. If it were dry, truly believe it would have walked right up…

[@mountainmanjim6366]

@@cotrails8356 the problem is I've never seen it dry lol. That whole area stays pretty damp and any low lying area seems to collect water. So right out the gate you're at a disadvantage. The ridges and rocks are covered in a dust and micro rocks, the low areas are holding water and these rocks are slick to boot. Beautiful vehicles and fantastic job on the builds. Enjoyed seeing these conquer a really cool trail!

[@cotrails8356]

@@mountainmanjim6366 it’s certainly one of our favorites in CO

[@fstjeanm]

Great video - and that defender is a beauty

[@Ram14250]

Great Video TFL! Defender "can be an great off-road vehicle"... it was what $100k and then another $30-50K in upgrades and such? Jeep heavily modified another $80K vehicle after upgrades.... Bronco, bone stock and it impressed! You can make anything a great off-roader with enough money thrown at it.

[@devinbender8428]

392 on the lots is $80k Try well over 100k after mods

[@devinbender8428]

And you can get a 4 door 2.7 Bronco Badlands Sasquatch for $50,000! HALF THE PRICE

[@stevefoster4509]

@@devinbender8428 With the Jeep though you get so many oprions, 2.0, 3.6, 3.0 diesel, 4Xe or Hemi.... you don't have to spend $80K. The big difference here is Jeep give the option of a V8 or Diesel for those that want it.

[@devinbender8428]

@@stevefoster4509 2.0 and 3.6 are both worse on paper and real world than the ford 2.3. 4xe and hemi are like 80k on the lot. Vs 50k for the ford. For what 10% more torque? Or 10% better mpg? Not worth it. And ford is going to be dropping a PHEV and Raptor R soon. And no one is buying the diesel. Jeep said it was a mistake offering it. They are going to discontinue it soon.

[@stevefoster4509]

@@devinbender8428 It's about choice, all well and good saying ford are going to have a PHEV but they don't right now, they can't even do a hardtop at the moment or fill orders placed 12 months ago. As for pricing show me a lot you can walk onto and grab a Bronco and drive it away that day (or week, or even month) for 50K ;)

[@spedracer55]

i love how beefy those tires make the defender look

[@BBossman1]

With almost no suspension travel or articulation, that Defender looks like its going to roll sitting in the parking lot.

[@BBossman1]

@@Adam_Rosenberg91 No I get it. They design their vehicles for a proper gentleman to cross Africa, not rock crawling in Colorado.

[@beaviccoon470]

@@BBossman1 ye it's more of a car for going through mud and snow and wading and all that with the ability to tow and carry heavy loads in the back as well.

[@NateDawg0007]

@@beaviccoon470 yeah the crazy tow figure really show it's intentions. It's definitely more of an overlander made to put thousands of pounds of camera equipment, food and gear and still be able to cross Africa to get to their filming location etc. It's basically the only true competitor to land cruiser for BBC style jobs like planet earth or top gear specials. Only problem is it's nowhere near as reliable as a land cruiser lol. Still incredibly impressive to see how well it can keep up with the wrangler and bronco in true rock crawling scenarios. That traction control is no joke comparing it to the how easily the 392 spun it's wheels even with a front and rear locker. The only thing really holding it back is the lack of articulation.

[@dkdanis1340]

@@BBossman1 defender when suspension is not all the way extended has pretty good articulation

[@philtripe]

@@Adam_Rosenberg91 he said it has sub frame drops ... im sure because ive never heard of that before but yeah... the world knows about the lack of articulation with IFS... now remember 90 percent of these cars will never see a dirt road and we cant piss off the soccer moms that will be the main buyer of that car

[@mavricxx]

This Bronco with a 4in lift and 39s would be even better than either of those other vehicles.

[@cotrails8356]

Would love to run PANCHO against that setup! Please let me know when and where in CO or Moab👍

[@07duramaxcrew]

That’s a sweet and fun trail. I have some great memories there from back in the day with my TJ. All three vehicles did well. I’ve liked Jeep’s for 20 years but the Bronco looks like a very impressive rig. I think the Defender showed it’s not just a mall crawler but I wouldn’t say it was in its element either.

[@sevendewey]

Which trail is this? Feel like I’ve seen it on one of the many Colorado wheeling channels I watch regularly

[@07duramaxcrew]

I’m pretty sure it’s the Wheeler Lake trail just south of Hoosier Pass.

[@k9karma]

Super fun video! Love the passion of the Jeep/Land Rover owner and his willingness to use his trucks on the trail. End of the day, as much as I love Jeep’s, the Bronco is an amazing stock truck.

[@Sydney8103]

The xtreme recon will beat it stock

[@lifeofhax5706]

Stock Bronco is a beast, which makes me that much more disappointed in the Chevy Blazer. What were they thinking? Put a mild lift on the Squatch and I think it will go pretty much anywhere.

[@parisconstantinidis4645]

Exactly lol that thing is a joke. And yeah exactly. A Squatch 2-door with 4” lift and 37’s would be absolutely insane, and would most likely do 99% of what you would ever need lol

[@THEAVERAGEGAMER13]

Even the raptors they have rolling around in camo have more power and 37's. I doubt they'll male a 2 door but that's gonna be a machine!

[@naf2579]

Would love to see how a 2 door bronco would perform.

[@1969darr]

Bronco is supposed to be 2 dr. Just like Blazer, Ram Charger and Wrangler. Yet yuppie devs came along and made these icons into something they are not.

[@protocetid]

@@1969darr Wasn’t just them, soccer moms also turned Land Rover into a luxury brand.

[@mcnuggetapple]

@@1969darr you can get it as a two door ?? What are you talking about

[@mtb416]

I’d take the Bronco to buy, but by god is that defender one beautiful mall crawler. It’s gorgeous. All the dimensions are just perfect.

[@nwatkins176]

Must a be wheel base thing. I have a 2 dr JKR that was on 35's at that time get up that tough section. Took a couple tries but went right up without issue. That v notch section to the right of tough section was throwing 2dr's left front wheel high in the air but the 4 doors seemed to have an easier time with the v notch. We will tackle Wheeler Lake again before it snows.

[@cotrails8356]

It’s much more dug out this year, guessing from the rain and heavy COVID use… dry I think both Bronco and Defender walk right up the left side line.

[@akar2755]

Defender with max-height air suspension has absolutely zero flex xD

[@buster9692]

Yeah it’s sooo damn bad ! Like watching a breeze block on a skateboard!!! Horrendous

[@MockingConvention]

It’s designed that way

[@rowens77ro]

Great job! I wish these episodes were longer!

[@FutureShawn0058]

Holy shit that Bronco did well.....for a stock vehicle.....that’s pretty wild.....eyes on you Jeep 👀 👀 👀

[@abqcrutch]

Jeep is supposed to be coming out with a Recon package for the Rubicon. 35" KO2s, beadlock capable wheels, 4.56s (4.88 w/manual tranny) and mopar lift for $4k. I'm curious what the aftermarket will do with the Bronco suspension.

[@FutureShawn0058]

@@abqcrutch they should make that available on base packages.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

Yep, I'm gonna wait for Ford to release it's first revision of the Bronco, then, getting one. It's that nice half way between a Wrangler and a Defender, 95% as hard core as the Wrangler, as nice on the interior is I've ever encountered.

[@FutureShawn0058]

@@Steve-yr5vi Ford really did a great job I just wish they would have brought it back years ago lol

[@mattbrew11]

The stock rubicon does everything the bronco did in this video

[@anthonybarton2103]

Tommy, I hope that Ford sees this Video and how well you Made this Bronco shine. You are by far the best Driver on the Channel.

[@TahoeMtnMan]

Well done. Curious how the Bronco windows will do when they are frozen and can't open a little. Ice happens.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

I can't wait for the Bronco Raptor, it should be an absolute beast for a stock vehicle, especially in 2 door configuration if they make that an option...

[@ralf9405]

This series was the best for sure! and the app that you created is amazing and really helpful! Thank you!

[@Kaldryf]

Our family has been happy supporters of Ronald McDonald House for as long as I can remember (30 years or more) - it's great to have you guys on board! Also, I'm fully impressed with the Bronco, even though I'm not an offroad enthusiast (yet).

[@hhhs001]

Not sure if anyone else has mentioned it but I think you guys are top blokes for promoting a charity as part of the precious promo segment.

[@Bacnow]

Keep in mind that both the Jeep and RR cost well over $100k with modifications! That freaking Bronco can be purchased in that configuration for less than half that price!

[@wswhited6217]

The bronco goes for around 80k.

[@wakkawakka900]

They're selling for 50-60 in Vegas

[@Aliyah_666]

Right give that bronco a mild lift and 39 inch tires it couldn't be stopped.

[@m__h2574]

392 on 39s - one of the best sounding off-road combination.

[@ADVRaiderKTM]

To be fair to the Landrover, the engineers never intended it to be a rock crawler...

[@jenniferbates9769]

The point everyone misses. It’s designed to get you up the trail not to go over difficult obstacles you go out of your way to find. I realize this was a “let’s make it difficult” video, which I love, however realistically I would have chosen the path the Wrangler chose if I just needed to get up the road.

[@woxie4990]

Then its name ought to have been "(Just) FlatLand Rover" instead. But in any case stop making pathetic excuses for the tůrd, Land Rover has enough apologists

[@Countcho]

So its useless

[@junehhan]

That was incredible that the Bronco could keep up with such heavily modified setups. Even though the Defender is so capable when properly modified, I still don't think it would be something I could trust when on such a trail. With the Wrangler, its hardcore old school while the Defender needs so much in the way of trick electronics to do what it does. As it wears, all of that stuff will also require a mortgage to start fixing as well.

[@Captain-Awesome]

The Defender looks pretty good but not flexible enough with the air suspension. The Bronco was better for off-road work and looks great. The Jeep was a beast offroad.

[@Captain-Awesome]

@Anthony Scala Agreed!

[@Cbat124]

Thanks for the video and for supporting great causes. Not many companies do things for others and I’m glad to be a long time viewer. Thanks guys