Bronco vs Wrangler vs Defender: We Drive Them Off-Road Up A Mountain, But Only Two Make It Back!

[@ms52499]

Jeep guy here, glad to see the Bronco preformed so well. Competition is good for all of us and Im sure will continue to drive cool innovation from both.

[@HJOperative]

This is the most refreshing comment I’ve ever seen

[@youngsoin9125]

Yota or die!!!! #yotanation Lol this man has a great mindset. Maybe GM will add some competition soon

[@SVTStrikesback]

I’m partial to Ford, but everyone already knows what Jeep’s have done for years. That Bronco is a good looking vehicle. I’m glad they took its off-road intentions seriously.

[@tdcenthusiast]

Something you'll never hear from a Ford guy.

[@bobmaxwell9572]

Innovation from 1970🤔🤣

[@robervin9107]

Tommy cursing and getting frustrated is everything it’s rare we love you tommy

[@pandapaul]

Yeah that was amazing. I'm so glad it was included. That was some honest off-road experience right there.

[@TJ-po9ol]

Morty from the cartoon

[@heathwirt8919]

But who wouldn't get frustrated and cuss in a situation that leaves a 70,000+ vehicle stuck in the middle of nowhere.

[@cameronmurray3039]

@@heathwirt8919 They should have upgraded the tyres on the Defender. Was so obvs they were gonna get a puncture. Many other vids on KZbin have done that

[@Rankidu]

@@cameronmurray3039 so, I pay for an off road rig, and I have to also immediately buy new rims and new tires. Doesn't sound too good to me

[@riscodisco]

The Defender is making sure no other intruders get up the trail; it’s defending.

[@davidvalentine9880]

As a Brit....is that the best our heritage has to offer ......land rover what happened ?...eeewwww....I’ll keep my Jeep !

[@benjaminpedersen6345]

At around 22 you see the land rover ahead of the jeep the puncture was fake

[@robertcarroll2840]

@@benjaminpedersen6345 Wow aren't you living in a twisted reality 😂

[@benjaminpedersen6345]

@@robertcarroll2840 isnt it true dont you see it in front of the jeep and since this is a american show hmmm

[@Phtalvyriz]

@@benjaminpedersen6345 i don't think you understand how B-Roll works

[@djherhjak]

Im not biased towards jeep or bronco but that jeep definitely looks like it has greater articulation.

[@JayGuz225]

Matt from Matt's OffRoad Recovery: "So, we got a call...".

[@comeandtravel1]

The Morevair would smoke these guys!

[@RedWingsninetyone]

"We'll get em out." -Ed

[@LightningTime777]

Hahaha! 😆

[@comeandtravel1]

@@LightningTime777 The honey hole!!! 😂

[@ivannarvaez367]

Would love to see the Morvair doing this trail, although the Banana might be better since it’s smaller.

[@klc3478]

The Ronald McDonald house is a great place for those in need. I stayed there eight months with my autistic son (he gets eight hours therapy per day) before the pandemic and it was a lifesaver for us. There’s no way I could have afforded to rent, and the people there treated us like family.

[@TFLoffroad]

Thanks for the thoughtful comment!

[@ttamcc.4674]

thats such a blessing

[@fernandobriseno8164]

Yes sir they really are a lifesaver for so many people. There were several families that benefited from this at Naval Medical Center Portsmouth. They had kids being treated for extended treatments that allowed their family to stay close by without creating a huge financial burden.

[@phantomwalker8251]

@@TFLoffroad hybrids,are not green,or cheap,or earth friendly. you should do a segment on how much it costs to re cycle,wind towers,prius,battery,s. &,the manufacturing cost against std,vehicles,coal,gas. green is total,BS. to say the least..

[@phantomwalker8251]

@@TFLoffroad air suspension,more,bs.. they blow out & reduce travel. as its ifs bs as well.. seems you.ve run out of decent content & vehicles..

[@MountainScrambler71]

Land Rover performs best on the showroom floor, where it is also extremely close to the service department

[@alfredocalzadilla7251]

Also performs pretty well on the mall parking lot.

[@zakariyyamohammed1095]

Best comment on a land Rover ever. Period!!!

[@Liysrigede]

😂😂😂

[@CarbonPower]

This made me legit chuckle

[@JamesSmith-uc8nt]

Jeep has mad articulation never left the ground

[@raphaelclarkrarang889]

power of solid axles

[@Floreypottery]

Yep why independent suspension sucks my 86 bronco had front independent it sucked on hills and the newer on had really low traction bar mounts

[@dodgeit3014]

Part of the reason I think it’s the best!

[@richardcheese4722]

@Cinda Oppenheimer I guess you've never rode a teeter totter

[@street_legal_go_kart7356]

@Cinda Oppenheimer it has flex no cv shafts. Generally a lot stronger. Also easier to swap to bigger one .

[@joshc606]

I’ll say, no matter what. you guys really went for it this time! I don’t even see people like Motortrend going this hard. Props!

[@careykuhn9174]

This is just an average 4x4 trail in colorado. I live an hour from this trail and have done them all.

[@marcokiki]

Agreed….I’ve been searching for some off road videos of the new Bronco (driven by non Ford endorsed people) and this is by far the best out there

[@TFLoffroad]

Thanks Josh!

[@jasonblevins9327]

Wow you should join the crew

[@dtopford]

Yup, this is just weekend wheelin. I laughed when they were talking about the “rock garden” lol

[@KODstorm21]

I mean let’s be honest for a second, how cool is it that we get all these factory offerings? Competition is the best thing for all brands. Great work TFL team

[@joevsyou]

When there is competition, we as the consumer wins.

[@makoimonroe2633]

Very cool. I would take the wrangler or Bronco, if it's my money I would get the Bronco as of today. But that 392 wrangler is a close Second..Very close!

[@flossin5025]

Defender is a luxury vehicle that can go on easy off road trails, Bronco is a on road vehicle that can go off road and the Wrangler is a off road vehicle that can go on road

[@albertsmith-cr9fi]

Exactly right. Successful Extreme off roading (Hells Revenge, the Rubicon, John Bull) requires a vehicle like a 2 door Rubicon with a short wheelbase, mud terrain 35’s, 12k wench, and a 3” lift over stock.

[@fragu123]

🙄… aha.

[@traylorjbc]

You have never been in a Defender driven by a person who loves them .. They piss all over Jeeps and Broncos when driven by people who are not trying to make Americans things look better. Jeep (Fiat) is cheap next to a Landy.. Landiys have class as well as capability...

[@AVH8TOR]

Well said

[@NovaCaddoWolf]

Spot on

[@TheTamashek]

This is the definition of being candid, and the combination of dad son all family values wrapped as one...I admire you from Africa

[@mtnbiker49]

Seeing the IFS swaybar disconnect under load in real time was really cool.

[@rogersmj]

Agreed! Seeing the difference it makes in practice (rather than in theory) was super helpful for people who aren’t that familiar with off roading.

[@Rnemhrd]

Strait axle still wins with more droop the down side.

[@tysonarjoon2825]

Agreed

[@4-LOW]

All the other automotive publications are shuddering at the sight of real off-road testing of off-road vehicles. GASP. TFL is doing what readers/viewers have wanted for 25 years.

[@toobalicious]

Yep - much respect for doing what scares the others…

[@wrongthinker350]

I'm surprised the Land Rover corporation allowed them to destroy a vehicle like that.

[@marcusgarvey8388]

I expected the new defender to be a bronco but it turned out to be a bronco sport!

[@ArnoldGLZ]

If the bronco sport badlands had the same max ground clearance as the defender the optional off-road wheels and tires that you can get on the sport would have probably faired better than those 20 inch rims on the defender lol

[@omargaidi9698]

It's even worse !!

[@meptwal]

Yeah, it’s not really a fair comparison. You have the top off road package on both the Jeep and the Bronco VS. the decidedly non-off road options on the defender. Goodyear tires have the sidewall interfaith of a wet paper bag. Not to mention they didn’t remove the rocks they stacked for the defender. It looks really easy when they’re already there!

[@feedtheagle6851]

@@meptwal That's a landrover problem of available options.

[@meptwal]

@@feedtheagle6851 no, the options are available IF you can be patient enough to not buy one without. Despite the hate from ignorant people, these things are selling like hot cakes. That doesn’t help with junk stock tires, but does anyone who is serious off-road in stock tires?

[@chris002able]

Funny the Bronco looks more like a Landrover than the Landrover 😊

[@Shawn-d5n]

It’s all in how it is driven. If it was driven by a competent off-roader it would appear as a much more capable vehicle.

[@marcoleone268]

@@Shawn-d5n you tripping, the defender is just for show, not a actual off roading veichle

[@javiersilva1577]

@@marcoleone268If you put off road tires, skid plate, and slightly lifted it, then they are insanely capable vehicles. It is a soccer mom car, but their engineering and computing in it is top notch.

[@Ramon-du7jv]

Amen to The Ronald McDonald house! They helped us out when my son was in the hospital for heart surgery after he was born! Amazing charity!

[@3-2-1-.]

My brother's son, too! A great bunch of people!

[@Ramon-du7jv]

Yes sir! Would you happen to know the best way to give to them! Thank you and keep up the great work with your videos!

[@hungryhungryhummer]

Nathan: *Scrapes the entire frame on the rock* Also Nathan: “We had some minor scraping”😂😂

[@bryanlorang417]

That's why Nathan is my fav TFL'er

[@andrewmendoza1578]

😂😂😂😂

[@eliteinventor]

The dealer selling this vehicle for full price with light scratches

[@nativewear23]

Drive like a rental!!😂

[@angelgjr1999]

Yeah the Bronco and jeep humiliated the Land Rover

[@Mr.Ramirez95]

Ronald McDonald house saved our lives when my daughter was born prematurely and spent a whole month In the NICU 4 HOURS away from home. I'm unbelievable grateful for them making an extremely stressful situation into a more manageable situation. From the bottom of my heart I say thank you for all those who donate.

[@snapkin788]

Same here. Amazing charity to donate too!

[@nordicheat906]

They gave my wife and I a room to stay in while our 3 week old boy had heart surgery. A truly remarkable organization.

[@Georgie-ye7wp]

This should be the pinned comment!!!! @TFL

[@Philip550c]

@@nordicheat906 this wouldn't happen to be the Loma Linda location would it?

[@nordicheat906]

@@Philip550c no Chicago Luries

[@chrissoutherland4356]

I was hoping TFL would do more videos like this, comparing the Bronco, Wrangler and any other vehicle, for comparison. I especially liked where you showed the articulation differences.

[@panasrsm]

The stock Rubi has a lot more articulation hands down.

[@jessebogart2528]

Thanks for the close up look at these vehicles off road. Articulation wasn’t even close. Jeep’s solid front axle hands down performed better in your test run.

[@donleamon8653]

To Tommy’s question, the Bronco articulation surprised me, but watching the two in the crossed up slow dirt section, Jeep visually did a better job.

[@seth3000gt]

They had slightly different lines and angles as they approached the first dip. If you watch them as they are both in the first dip I'd have to call it a tie. The Jeep definitely didn't win.

[@nadirkhan7435]

Bro both were in different angles and line you definitely can't say wrangler has better articulation ! Plus this is not a Badlands 2 door which has way more wheel travel flex than the 4 door wildtrack which is more towards the desert racing so the actual comparison will be when the 2 door badlands will be included

[@Lex-Rex]

@@nadirkhan7435 The Wrangler won plain and simple. The articulation with a solid front axle will always win. Break out the protractor ya soy boy Bronco fans.

[@Rogueginger69]

Yes I agree the Jeep clearly has far more articulation despite Ford's claims of the Bronco having more.

[@DeeperImageAutomotive]

@@Lex-Rex The Bronco Fanbois are also forgetting to mention the extra height from the 35s vs 33s on the Wrangler. That requires less travel/articulation for the Bronco for ground contact vs the Wrangler on smaller tires. Throw some 35s on the Wrangler, or 33s on the Bronco, and you will see the gap get even bigger in terms of how much better the Wrangler can articulate.

[@sav0405]

i'm just really impressed by this strong father and son relationship

[@switchion]

Land Rover: "Lets put on 20in wheels and fully independent suspension on a vehicle and market it as an off-road vehicle". Soccer Moms: "Wow, looks rugged"

[@beaviccoon470]

The defender hate community has started to fade away. Accept and move on.

[@sonnydayz2118]

What sucky tires were they using?

[@sonnydayz2118]

19" tires suck more than the 20's", but they both suck getting decent tires for. I had 2 range rovers in the past.

[@beaviccoon470]

@@sonnydayz2118 sorry just got home from football when I typed that last comment so wasn't thinking straight😂😂

[@sonnydayz2118]

@@beaviccoon470 lol. Have a 🍺.

[@gord7025]

If I stacked just a couple more rocks I could get my wife's Elantra over that 1st obstacle.

[@errickkitchin36]

I was thinking the same thing. If I stack a enough rocks at the right angle I'm sure my AWD Fusion will go up it.

[@dotsojp]

My gen 2 crv would have made it to the top. Being small and being able to pick your limes definitely has it's perks

[@peglor]

I'm also pretty sure my car tires wouldn't puncture rolling over either of those rocks given I've been over sharper edged potholes and kerbs. If my car weighed an extra ton maybe it might have though.

[@onetruebob_tj]

No lies detected! Fail on the Defender tires. X2 even. I'd personally be happy with eit HF er the Bronco or Jeep.

[@johnathoncastro]

Exactly and he chose the most horrible line and then see sawed on the rock. Not exactly how you do things.

[@abbasforamerica7508]

The Rubicon is The off-road master no question! Notice the Branco has 35 ‘’ the wrangler has the stock 32’m and still performs well! Go Wrangler Nation!✌🏼

[@eliasgutierrez6789]

It's the rock crawler master but not offroad overall. Jeep has the straight axles perfect for rock crawling but that's about it.

[@powerboatguy2308]

@@eliasgutierrez6789 Still has a lot of advantages on tight trails as opposed to the Bronco which looks as wide as a Ram TRX.

[@Krebssssssss]

I love the look of the Bronco. That’s just a nice looking machine.

[@n0sper963]

Yes it looks good

[@4xoverland]

Good work guys! But we all knew that would happen. There were consultants that pleaded with Land Rover Jaguar during its development (I have inside information) to permit smaller rims. But they didn't listen. Their priority was to build a tourer that could also go off-road. Not the other way round - exactly like almost all the cars they already make. Go figure.

[@troopyinafrica]

Makes one wonder if they haven't got the rim selection correct ( we've also see the wiring issues) what else is going to be poorly designed?

[@troopyinafrica]

@4xoverland I'm watching your build with baited breath! Mine arrives next week.

[@peopleschamp7258]

TfL, are you going to take up the afterthelandroverexperience challenge?

[@adriaanvanwyk7064]

HAHA! I was thinking about you when I saw this Andrew! And as we all know, the Discovery Lite (I REFUSE to call it a Defender!!) performed as predicted... All the tech in the world means nothing if those old fashioned things called tyres aren't fit for purpose.

[@nonameavailable2]

Test drove the new defender and was highly disappointed. The model went from one of the best off road vehicles to the worst. They made it for soccer moms!

[@Reality_Filter]

That rock should be called the "Mica" rock from here on forward...

[@ragnarocking]

aren't all rock's at least partially derived from _mica?_ Name it _"Mica's mica"_ 😅

[@johngrodski4158]

The DREADED Mica Rock

[@bobvincent4841]

Lolol They should've stacked rocks in front of the tire killer hill.

[@andrewmendoza1578]

“Tommy you’re the best off roader in the family so I’ll let you take the defender” Proceeds to pop the tire 5 seconds later 🤣🤣🤣

[@mikesters3532]

🤣

[@JC-cv3up]

😂

[@jtr990]

🤣

[@AnimalPapaStudios]

Big 👍! Put 35 on the wrangler! Unstoppable! Love my 95 wrangler! Great views too! Take care, happy off-roading and God bless! Papa and Junior! 😎👍🙏

[@AriWilson]

everyone is freaking out about the $70k landrover that was damaged when really we should be pouring one out for the sharply dressed rock that was just minding its own business when it got so scratched up by a giant metal beast

[@FDNY101202]

You thought Subaru hated you... Land Rover is calling their lawyers right now LOL

[@cafe88racer53]

land rovers are built for rich white moms driving down beverly hills lol

[@fredmertz3837]

@@cafe88racer53 Might want to check out the previous model Defender which could go anywhe any CJ, TJ, JK, or JL can go. Now back to drifting vids son and Hyundai Excel automatic. You could find an apex if you life depended on it.

[@neilmurphy845]

@@cafe88racer53 Yah there not made for off road now I heard they where fantastic off road before

[@jdunlap007]

@@cafe88racer53 groceries and soccer equipment carrier 🤣

[@CarAddictUK]

@@cafe88racer53 land rovers, especially the new defenders, are used commonly in British farms. Also, the defender has some of the most advanced off-road tech built into it.

[@2wheeled76]

Land Rover’s definition of use for their Off-Road Package is driving through a grass parking lot at equestrian centers.

[@East_Coast_Ghost86]

Land Rover used to be arguably the best off road vehicles along side Jeeps. But they have really just moved so up-market, that they have zero business being off road.

[@YoungNChannel]

Love my Defender, but this comment is objectively hilarious 🤣. Well played.

[@-nuclearwaste3593]

@@East_Coast_Ghost86 *cough cough*....You forgot about the land cruiser m8!!

[@bobmaxwell9572]

Who would have thought a set of 29" mild ATRs would struggle against 35"tyres🤔,looking forward to the sand,mud /ruts track's

[@capt.stubing5604]

No self respecting vehicle intended for real off roading sports 19” or larger wheels, ridiculous! !7” is the maximum unless you stay in grass parking lots.

[@markalexander774]

The defender is not worthy of that name. It is not an off-roader. It is a mall crawler that would do okay in an area that gets the occasional snow, but should never be taken on anything more intense than a well maintained gravel road.

[@MjekuMati]

I was all set to buy a Bronco, but the delays killed it for me. I want to get into something now to take my son with terminal brain cancer out for adventures before it's too late. Weirdly, the longer I wait, the more I decide I prefer the Jeep's styling after initially loving the Bronco. I've got a green Willy's wrangler on hold, and hoping to pick it up in a week or two. Can't wait, never owned anything like this before! Southern Utah, here we come!

[@haileyamador6640]

I hope your son got to go on rides with you in your Jeep, God bless your family.

[@EnGieBenGie90]

Very sorry to hear about your son, I hope you fulfil your adventures with him so that he will have those priceless memories

[@akbarpashtun]

Glad you are caring for your son. Also I recommend you to check vegetable juice diet to kill cancer of any type. Cancer can be killed when we starve it from chemicals it feed on which is served by the food we eat.

[@hilairelaplume1616]

My brother and my neighbor got the Jeeps and they have a lot of problems they actually both treated them in for a Ford f150 and bronco respectively but good luck God bless

[@hilairelaplume1616]

Land Rover got bought out several times and is one of last reliable vehicles in the market do not buy

[@mvp04nv]

Would've loved to see a 4Runner TRD Pro instead of the Defender. Good video guys!

[@jaycascalenda2356]

100% agree. I have a 2020 Wrangler Rubicon but love the 4Runner and would’ve liked to see how it stacks up.

[@Faknm]

I kind get a little upset because 4runner wasn’t in this……. But 4runner is more suitable for overland, I never will put a 35, or anything bigger than 32.7 on my 4runner.

[@lmtada]

Don’t buy anything British.

[@Faknm]

@@lmtada you know what’s funny, Land Rover right now actually own by an India company….

[@Jose-hl6xl]

Damn, you’re right. A 4Runner TRD Pro would’ve been a worthy contender!

[@davidcarrico3385]

When using electric for 4L in the 4xe, put it in select-speed (standard feature for the 4xe). It smoothes out the ‘lurchiness’ you were experiencing in electric.

[@matthewcollis6259]

Guys - did you air down on the defender? And if you did, that's the reason you got the pinch flat. The lower profile tyres on the newer disco's and rangies shouldn't be aired down. Keep them at normal pressure as lowering them does not increase footprint at all and just increases the chance of a puncture, there's no point dropping pressure when the profile is low as you don't get any benefit and flats are common. Great video by the way!

[@cossack4930]

Wow. Hands down - the best TFL ever. I was literally feeling butterflies and queazy when Tommy blew the second tire. Well done!

[@jeremyjohnson6438]

Literally?

[@joemcgee2918]

A Cossack, at least the Russian ones wouldn't feel queazy about a computer dork blowing a tire. I suppose you may have feelings for Tommy.

[@10007will]

Great video and very entertaining for sure . But pointless as no off road tyres on one vehicle and off road tyres on the others . What’s the point of that? Hundreds of LR videos out there with the defender in off road tyres. TFL is a well funded channel and should be comparing like for like. LR May, May, still be worst. But we won’t know. All we know is don’t go off road without off road tyres. Useful reminder but not informative

[@ElationProductions]

Took a look that the tires on each, and knew right away which one wasn't making it back. You can put all the fancy traction management systems you want on a vehicle, but the tires are the first and most critical link. It's like trying to climb a mountain in bowling shoes.

[@piemar97]

But they said in the video at 15:30 that the Defender's tires were the "off-road" option and the most aggressive ones offered by Land Rover or should I say Land Robbers hahaha! It seems their factory options are not up to par with the Jeep's or Bronco's. I think at this point, it is obvious that the Defender is not a true off-roader and it showed the direction that Land Rover chose to take the defender, that is the luxury SUV route, just like a Range Rover.

[@jaimeherrerajr.3651]

I agree with you so much honestly, but In this situation the break over angle 📐 was the part hitting. A suspension lift would have been more effective for the money to get through this obstacle.

[@eyeswideopen7450]

@@piemar97 keep in mind the first Range Rovers were fully capable offroaders. They mostly stood apart from the defenders by not having the interior of a tractor. They their offroad capability was downgraded and they introduced the Discovery to offer and offroader. Then the capabilty of the Discovery was downgraded and they introduced the new Defender that is not a Defender replacement but more a replacement for the Discovery....

[@johnpaulonyeama9931]

@@piemar97 well that's a lie defenders have 22 inch wheels that are also for off-road also jlr have affiliate links that have bigger tires that can fit

[@donfletcher7354]

Yes, they took the Chevrolet Blazer path. Land Rover isn't the only one. But it must really gall them that Ineos is legally building the Defender they should have built and calling it the Grenadier.

[@Dia1Up]

Tommy yesterday: "We took the Defender, Bronco, and 4xE offroad, spoiler one of them didn't make it"..... My thoughts "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder which one"

[@HoxFeesh]

😂

[@Spoons81]

It was just a tire, would've helped to have legit offroad tires

[@WhatTrigger]

@@Spoons81 Im pretty sure all 3 vehicles are running factory trim, aka another sign Landrover wasn't aiming at a true off roader.

[@tedunguent156]

@@Spoons81 It wasn't just a tire. It was two tires and the wheels were damaged too. The Defender is a joke.

[@nevillebowman8419]

For offroad, gotta say the Jeep makes the most sense to me, purpose built. What always amuses me though is that, when watching many of these kinds of tests and/or wilderness documentaries, the camera and rescue crews are almost always in a Tacoma or Land Cruiser. Around the world, those seem to be the "go to" vehicle.

[@liamhawkins4062]

I heard/read a funny comment once before , it went soemthing like this, if you want to go to the outback take a land rover if you want to come back take a land cruiser.

[@tonydamiani8029]

My father, master mechanic for decades, owned a large independent garage for over 50 years. Land cruisers, especially the older less electronic versions, were his favorite vehicles (also loved Ford half or 3/4 ton vans).

[@PMitchell106]

Is the Bronco not purpose built?

[@EvilMerlin]

Uh, and the Bronco isn't purpose built?

[@markwalker4485]

@@EvilMerlin you can never beat an old FJ40. I wish they made them again

[@Nick-qz7hx]

The f’ing aye was probably the funniest TFL moment I have ever seen

[@theone4042]

TOTALLY AGREE!!!!

[@golfgti47]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I repeated it 4 times to make sure that's what he said. Gold!

[@robintaylor1490]

Micah point ! ... lmao

[@kelmscot21237]

Lost it for a minute. LOL

[@aryaahmadi4029]

Meanwhile in YouBube headquarters: "Our AI has brought to our attention that your son has cursed on a video you uploaded on our platform; unfortunately, TFL is demonetized as of today."

[@67whitegoat4]

The Land Rover should come with a ForSale sign as standard equipment. 😂

[@NotThatBob]

And the parts come from overseas so that'll make repairs nice and cheep lol.

[@cooltechnician]

@@NotThatBob cheap* lol

[@NotThatBob]

@@cooltechnician face palm lol.

[@s0la.scr1ptura]

LOL

[@ras4782]

Lmao

[@alexkellum1]

Giving “Airing down” a whole new meaning, one tire at a time 🤣

[@mikefoehr235]

Maybe RR should spec their OFF ROADERS with run flat tires.

[@beaviccoon470]

@@mikefoehr235 the original ones for the army might have had some although don't quote me on that.

[@MrCstone1]

Last time I aired down it was to maybe 7psi....not 35 to 25

[@toobalicious]

LOL - you win.

[@squatchwatch5237]

Nathan didn't flinch when going over that first rock cuz he knew it had the armor! 😅 Nathan always been the most confident

[@billcantrell536]

I've had my Jeep I have taken it on basic trails in the woods and rode around on dirt roads, but to be honest, a two wheel drive would have done it fine. I finally went to an offroad park where the Jeeps capabilities were required and I was not disappointed. The more I drove it over obstacles the more confident I got with it, its a goat. In the south most places to drive are wooded and a tight fit, visibility and maneuverability are king. Not to throw any shade to a Bronco but I have sat in one of those and the visibility and the sense of exactly where the vehicle was really seemed to be lacking. Really pleased with how the Jeep comes into its own when you finally take it to where it can shine, you really don't know what you got till you do."

[@frankreyes5731]

@@jayd3nD nothing

[@briancoleman971]

Great post. These vehicles are getting too big for wooded trails. 90% of these will never see any serious trails but the Jeep is still the most optimized for them. And the Jeep is also the easiest to modify with a lift and larger tires. That Bronco already has 35s and struggles a little to match the Jeep with relatively puny 32s or 33s. The Defender is really just going to be used on snowy roads lets face it. The Bronco will be better on roads and is a good all arounder

[@_netscapenavigator]

There's a reason why a Jeep will always be a Jeep

[@Davido50]

Jeeps are great but the new Broncos are just all around great vehicles both off rd /on rd. Good mpgs & proven Gen2 TGDI powertrain.

[@Davido50]

@@jayd3nD def test drive a new Bronco if you can find one. Both are awesome but tech & features of Bronco are amazing

[@nj2033]

Land Rover and Range Rover vehicles are mainly bought by parents taking their kids to school here in the UK. I think they've started adapting their vehicles for this use more now. Also the reliability of both are known to be pretty bad in the UK. The old Defenders are what everyone's after. They break down but you only need a screwdriver and cable ties to fix pretty much anything.

[@cinoclav]

Everyone in the Bronco: Riding comfortable, absorbing the bounces with no problem. Nathan in the Jeep: Looking like he was doing his best to hang on for an 8 second rodeo ride.

[@MrStaybrown]

Yea, swaybar disconnect would smooth it out, but Rubicon can only disconnect swaybar in 4Lo..unless you have a bullydog tuner then you can disconnect swaybar in 2Hi, 4Hi and even lock differentials.

[@mikie5thgenss450]

Subscribed! I personally felt that it looked like the jeep had the easiest time making it up the trail and the electric mode really sets it apart from the bronco

[@MrTonaluv]

The Bronco did it easier come on!

[@glaffoon1]

I find it amazing that the one vehicle without recovery hooks is the one that is most likely to need them.

[@javiersilva1577]

That’s because this version of the defender is not designed for off roading. There are actuall rugged new defender versions. This is not one of them.

[@skwashua]

“No visible damage”… that’s what it’s going to say on TFLBids next week?

[@evilspock4714]

Wrangler truly is an off-road beast

[@qwikz28]

Yeah my take away was different than theirs. I think tommy is just a more skilled driver. Seems like it struggled less on everything.

[@mechmat12345]

Yep, almost as good as a Bronco.

[@fercho6848]

They got competition now

[@Subie9330]

The Defender NEVER stood a chance. Honestly that was a disrespectful move to compare that to the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and Ford Bronco.

[@Verb130]

It looks to me like the Jeep had better articulation, keeping all 4 tire friction patches in better contact with the ground, and keeping the body more level. It would be nice to see both vehicles head to head with the same 37" tires mounted on the same size wheels. That would be the best comparison.

[@poplaurentiu4148]

Best articulation Unimog, otherwise i'm still waiting for Rivian or a GMC Hummer EV head to head instead of these dinosaur gas-guzzlers.. ;0)

[@rtgrajedaminersedu]

*35”

[@ltgumper7]

35s on the Jeep would smoke these

[@GunNut37086]

@@ltgumper7 I agree 100%. With 35s the Wrangler would've put on a clinic.

[@nicklehman1289]

Dude just floors the Jeep over that Boulder lol omg

[@yeahman1975]

He is the Jeremy clarkson of the TFL bunch. Mooorrreeee powwer Just floor it. Hahhaha gotta love em

[@heathwirt8919]

Think he was having a hard time controlling the throttle of the electric motor with its instant torque.

[@rydingwithryan493]

@@heathwirt8919 or maybe turbo spool but I think it’s in low range and I haven’t driven one but I imagine the small turbo doesn’t have too much lag.

[@einfelder8262]

@@rydingwithryan493 Pay attention bloke - he was in electric mode, which doesn't have turbo spool.

[@einfelder8262]

@@heathwirt8919 Excactly. My thought was he should have only used the front locker - locking the rear will always cause the rear to slide.

[@mike-pl8sn]

I am so glad you pointed out the articulation I was watching that closely the jeep clearly won

[@dmennenoh]

Yeah interesting how Ford claims the Bronco has like 16% more and it clearly has quite a bit less.

[@hacob2004]

I don't know why they made this a "tell us what you think" thing unless they're trying not to piss off ford.

[@sammyrothrock6981]

@@hacob2004 exactly!

[@mkudron1]

I think it would be interesting to see both two door and 4 door versions all 4 head to head.

[@michaelroche8051]

Remind me never to buy one of your gently used vehicles. Great test guys.

[@bambamujls]

When Tommy got stuck driving the Land Rover and says “I’m not going to enjoy the rest of this trip” lol best comment in the video

[@chriscon8463]

I’d love to see how Tommy’s new Wrangler with the non-locking diffs handles that trail, for comparison.

[@coloradomallcrawlers]

It’d be fine, I didn’t use lockers anywhere on red cone. 2 door stock JK Rubicon.

[@TFLoffroad]

I use it in the next vid to rescue the Defender. It rocked it!

[@NemeanLion-]

@@TFLoffroad Nice man. It must feel friggin awesome to use your Willys to rescue an $80k Defender. No buyers remorse there.

[@chriscon8463]

@@TFLoffroad Hey, awesome! I can’t wait to watch it. My ‘18 Wrangler Sport JLU is set up like your Willys…it has AT tires & a limited-slip diff.

[@PVo-1111]

I'm a Toyota guy and I've seen the basic wranglers with just lift and tires do very tough trails without any lockers. I think if you have the flex and tires, as long as all your tires have contact you won't have issues.

[@RGRIII]

The fact JEEP is the standard in this game and FORD came out of nowhere with the Bronco is Amazing..Hat's of to THE BRONCO!

[@motomike007-1]

For some reason Tommy saying “F’ing A” kind of scared me. Especially when he smashed the steering wheel almost breaking it in half. :). You guys are the absolute best and literally got me through 2020 with your content.

[@crimsonstang]

TFL after getting their 8th replacement Defender: "modern technology is king off road!"

[@deejayimm]

21:58 Why is Roman and the defender (with spare) in front of the Jeep when it's supposed to be left behind, and incapable of completing the trail?

[@michaelcole7162]

@@deejayimm good catch

[@agt155]

@@deejayimm TFL is more scripted than TopGear.

[@jasonblevins9327]

@@deejayimm B footage is often used out of order.

[@deejayimm]

@@jasonblevins9327 yea, but they're saying that the Land Rover had to be taken back down the trail, yet later in the video you see it further up the trail. So did they replace both tires, and it made it the rest of the way without them telling us?

[@chadb2077]

The Wrangler definitely wins on front articulation but i gotta say, never in my life have i seen an independent setup with as much articulation as the Bronco

[@KTMcaptain]

It could be far better if they mounted the differential in the center and gave it longer control arms. The Raptor actually has pretty good articulation, but it’s massively wide

[@chadb2077]

@@KTMcaptain yeah thats a good point, it would be cool to see it in a future model, cause the Raptor is just far too big for this kind of driving

[@KTMcaptain]

@@chadb2077 if they used a heave style suspension it would also help to mimic the weight transfer of a solid axle. Basically a lifted wheel applies pressure to a spring and rocker that forces the other wheel down. When both wheels travel up or down together they actuate the heave spring for better bottoming and brake dive resistance, but articulation it will also help to reduce inner wheel spring rate and increase outer wheel spring rate. . Unfortunately they used an existing platform, so it would not be cost beneficial to do these things. But without that the Bronco wouldn’t be here and Jeep wouldn’t be offering a hemi nor a 35” tire package with 4.88 gears. Competition is everything.

[@impalervlad1456]

Hey!!! I didn't know Jerry Springer was doing 4x4 ratings... LOL

[@jcollins1305]

Very impressive for the Bronco. We always knew Jeep was very capable off road, and now we know Bronco is too. Nice job Ford.

[@HSstudio.Ytchnnl]

no opinion on the defender?

[@jcollins1305]

@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl I love the Defender, but reliability is always going to be an issue unfortunately.

[@toolshed7652]

That might actually be the first time Ive seen Tommy really loose his shit! Good on ya mate, it happens to the best of us 😁

[@JohnDoe-wy2py]

What *a good life you guys have.* Being able to *test these three vehicles at the same time is a fantasy.*

[@beardedtravelguyreviews4692]

i love how people.say well.if you put 35s on the jeep or the the other vehicle. any vehicle can be capable of you change and add stuff. i like that this compares straight off the lot from the factory.

[@discover4x4]

Regarding the articulation at the 22 min mark, I knew Ford had to be full of crap about those claims. Still a pretty impressive vehicle! I love that they're pushing Jeep brand to do better

[@johnathanleonardo912]

Jeep still blows tho. The company that is

[@ccole1255]

Yeah how dare they make claims like that that are dead ass LIES though?

[@Oak6]

@@johnathanleonardo912 Yup. Jeep the company sucks. I would never buy anything but a wrangler from them. That being said, I do LOVE my wrangler.

[@dennisjohnston5365]

By the footage the Jeep looks like the winner however the branco is wider and it may have flexed more but due to the line the tire came up more. I would like to see them test them on a ramp and see the real truth for sure. I know there is a formula based off the size of the vehicle and so it could be on paper the branco wins but the real world is not made of paper lol. Hard to go wrong with a solid axle for flex and the reality is if you want to get more extreme and modify the Jeep is going to have the advantage for sure in that department

[@caodesignworks2407]

@dilip varma The Wrangler and the Bronco were also stock

[@seanarmistead6224]

Love getting the TFL OFF-ROAD NOTIFICATIONS

[@2011blueman]

This is the comparison video I think we were all waiting to see. Thanks!

[@1sniper800]

The Jeep will always be the king of off-road

[@LCRandRC]

Not any more haha

[@bbb4300]

Your so right 👍

[@edwinmedina4338]

In this video yes Jeep is king, the defender is like the maverick for people that aren't truck people 😅!

[@TheNostalgicFuture]

Goes to show the tire makes all the difference. I know they are sticking to comparing stock to stock, but i cant help but feel like if they all had the same wheel tire setup, this would have ended very differently

[@Aliyah_666]

How lol...only outcome I see is land Rover wasted their time. Why wasn't it equipped with more off road worthy tires. 70k and shit tires...c'mon man.

[@carrickdubya4765]

@@Aliyah_666 LR knows their buyers only want to look tough and dirt ready - lol

[@realtoverland]

@@Aliyah_666 it‘s only American companies throwing massive off-road tires on their stock cars. In Europe they don‘t do this due to emissions. Put some proper AT or MT on the defender and it will literally go everywhere. The Jeep is an okay car, but it has quality issues and onroad it‘s the worst of the three shown. As an Allrounder the Bronco is best. For people who are more onroad and only sometime offroad, it‘s the defender.

[@jbirdzz]

Though I know this comment is a year old, I still find it fairly relevant in a modern sense. As someone who owns a Rubicon, I would still say Broncos are at the very top of the modern Off-reading vehicles, with the Bronco Raptor. Second, being the Jeep Wrangler 392 with the 35 inch tires, and lastly the Defender even with better tires. Technologically it’s a great car, however, that’s all it really has in an off-roading sense, it’ll kick the ass of most vehicles but it’s no Jeep or Bronco.

[@suryamariappan4260]

@@jbirdzz so true...doesn't matter if 1 year ago.......

[@ThatOneDudeNick]

Glad to finally see the Bronco on a real trail. For my needs it seems plenty capable, with the bonus of actually being decent on the way to the trail.

[@H00Dwinked26]

To me the advantage of the Bronco was it’s 35’s and the Jeep was it’s smaller width. The catch is that you can put 35’s on the Jeep but that Bronco ain’t getting any skinnier.

[@thomasc5687]

Not to mention the Jeep can fit 35s stock too so it’s a pretty easy upgrade. Then a 2 in lift and you can fit 37s easily

[@MandrewSD]

@@thomasc5687 If you go with a 2" lift and 37's without going any wider you will end up on your side. I have a JLURD on 37's and when going up you go out with the backspacing/tire width.

[@thomasc5687]

@@MandrewSD Sorry if I wasn't clear on that, I was assuming going 37s would entail going aftermarket wheels and wider tires. Point still stands though, it's a relatively straightforward upgrade that massively increases capability. Jls are a lot easier too especially compared to older Wranglers like the JK and TJ.

[@MandrewSD]

@@thomasc5687 I agree 100%. Just pointing out that a JLU on 35's is probably about as wide as the Bronco (we will see where the Xtreme Rubicon package ends up). My JLURD is wider than the Bronco but I am on 37's. Body width is slimmer though which is super helpful....who cares if you rub tires on trees???

[@jeepdave]

@@MandrewSD going wider on tires with 35/37's on the Jeep is still better because ONLY the tires get wider, which still makes it easier to maneuver the body around obsticles, as well as makes it so you can use the tires as bumpers against rocks, trees, etc.

[@ApostolicITTech]

Surprised the 4Runner wasn’t in this too since they put the Defender in. Would have been neat to see all four at the same time. Prediction: wrangler, bronco, 4Runner, Defender

[@TEC_Stuff]

If you watch the end of the video with the mountain top scene, you can see a Toyota FJ Cruiser and what I think is a lifted/tired up Lexus GX460 (essentially a 4Runner). I have an SR5 4Runner, and sometimes wish it had more outright ground clearance from the factory, the TRD Pro model is a serious piece of equipment - it would be neat to see one on this trail.

[@thedoubleop]

Epic video! My step mom and step brother spent time at The Ronald McDonald house. Much appreciated to see the support. Keep up the great work everyone.

[@assaultlick2169]

As always, great real world off road comparison. Drone shots at the end really drove home what a climb that was

[@yosam5184]

Absolutely enjoyed this video and seeing that Bronco on the trail. The new kid on the block gets my vote.

[@badarikrishna3169]

This is the most practical off-road test video I've come across to test the capability of a jeep and land rover. Must say I expected the disappointment with the land rover considering the company is focusing more on luxury+off-roading hence those tyre proportions and other compromises what the other two vehicles come with

[@ronaldrrootiii6040]

Yeah the Land Rover sucks on these American Trails but if you take it on some grassy British kind of land with a little bit of axle twister here and there the traction control is pretty amazing. I just like the fact that the traction control does work so great when needed. I am biased though I own a Land Rover but it's an old school Discovery 2 with traction control that works great and solid axles with no sway bars so I kind of get the best of both worlds. I do like the concept of the traction control being aggressive because if all you have is an open diff or a locker it's kind of nice to have something to not have to use the locker because the locker can sometimes be necessary but also hinder steering. But if you have traction control that works really really well it's just automatically happens and then it's off and you don't even know it and there's no thinking about it. And the one on my old disco too is actually pretty reliable it always works great. I've seen other videos with the Bronco and it's pretty damn impressive because it handles better on the street than the Jeep yet it still has front and rear lockers with decent articulation for ifs and Towing more than the Jeep

[@nicholassilvestri1804]

Love how Nathan goes “minor scrape”, and that rock damn near had the whole Jeep in the air😂

[@willrector9716]

Nathan can't drive....... he's from LA

[@DAREDEVIL-vk3vi]

Ok yes bigger hit I’m the Jeep but any damage?? Nah the bronco had a literal minor scrape on the control arm and pretty big scrape … case close Jeep will always be king 👑

[@danielvisintainer3352]

@@DAREDEVIL-vk3vi Nathan didn’t try to drive over the same rock Tommy did, he took an easier line right away where Tommy tried to go the hard route, then backed up and went the easy way. Would’ve been interesting to see if the Jeep would’ve taken damage if he tried to go over that rock as well.

[@raionshishi8290]

@@DAREDEVIL-vk3vi You do realize that every time they completed a course they literally mention how Tommy took the Bronco through harder and more complicated lines while the Wrangler took easier lines right ? The Bronco came out of all of this with a minor scrape, while having 2 passengers, a few luggage bags i see in the back and a freaking spare tire from a defender that failed. Not only was it WAY heavier because of all this, but it still managed to take the harder lines and not even sweat on it. Tell me how exactly did the Wrangler prove itself as king here if at all ?

[@Sydney8103]

@@raionshishi8290 22:21 says it all

[@daveizdebski]

The Defender seems more like an urban commuter like the Renegade and Bronco Sport

[@deadfiregames4766]

Unlike the other 2 the defender doesn't deserve it's name, back in the day they used to be some of the best off roaders money could buy now they are a slightly better equipped luxury type car

[@daveizdebski]

@@deadfiregames4766 Facts the old Defender was like the Wrangler and Bronco, the new is just a luxury version of the Renegade or Bronco Sport

[@thefizzedheads5732]

Totally agree the most off-roading the defender was made to do is drive down a gravel road

[@daveizdebski]

@@thefizzedheads5732 The Defender looks like a vehicle that needs to be pulled out of a sand pit by a Bronco

[@okok-gu5zl]

The Defender has now become boulevard cruiser, at least in this trim. Perhaps more tire sidewall could help.

[@technicaldisasters]

Do you have a Patreon where I can pay to hear Tommy’s uncensored curse? That was epic… and hilarious.

[@p47rr]

What I love about Land Rover is you never have to turn on the interior lights. Because the check engine light is all ways on.

[@marsdensclassicmotors6150]

I’m surprised how well that Kia Soul did. Oh wait it’s a Land Rover defender, who else see’s the resemblance 😂

[@NorthWestAutos]

Kia would make it down lol

[@tilan6944]

Great video. Really demonstrated what’s important in off roading. It wasn’t just the tyres and clearence but also how much better proper diff locks are than traction control ‘terrain management systems’. Old school still rules!

[@Excellent2911]

Wrangler is ok

[@ECReeves]

Both beautiful vehicles man! I’m so glad Ford decided to compete with the wrangler now both will get better and better

[@killthahippie]

The bronco is beautiful but it's beautiful now, I a few years .. I don't think it will be, remember when the hummer came out it was so attractive and now ? Eh it doesn't hold up .. jeep is timeless ( to those who like it some never will ) a jeep will always be beautiful

[@ECReeves]

@@killthahippie idk man I’ve always loved the 60s bronco and that’s what the new one looks like. The reason jeep is timeless is because it’s pretty much never changed. As long as they don’t change the bronco to much I think it will hold up. That’s why they did what jeep did and made it very customizable. I’m sure the luster will ware off. But hell when I jeep passes me I don’t turn my head but I still love them

[@killthahippie]

@@ECReeves I still turn my head with a jeep I just love that look I will say back in the early 2000s when they made that long jeep but kept it 2 doors it was eh but still not bad either I love the old Laredo I love the new wrangler . I'm not anti bronco but my eye will always lean towards jeep

[@jamestindall67]

@@ECReeves Sorrto say jeep has totally changed from a true jeep

[@BC08]

@@killthahippie Bronco and H2, FJ Cruiser, etc are nothing alike. H2, FJ were complete exercises in style over substance. Bronco is exactly the opposite. Bronco is going to age well

[@KampervanemPrzezAmerykę]

How about the Rivian - Cybertruck - Bronco or Jeep comparision on this trail?

[@jaronshelton4124]

Jeep DEFINITELY has more front axle articulation…. Not sure where Ford got there statistics.

[@MSparks9509]

Both sway bars were disconnected. Listen at 22:22. Solid axle > IFS for articulation

[@bruceb44]

No way, I was waiting for every Jeep fan boy to scream this when these released no matter what they saw. The Bronco will not only articulate but will also blow past the Jeep on the Whoops!

[@vernlemasters6504]

Jeep looked like it had more articulation to me

[@DakotaEhlenberger]

Imagine wanting a off-road spec defender and using 20" rims

[@Wynorrific]

Bc who's realistically going to offroad a defender?

[@sages7783]

Right? They tried too, initially they had the 4 cylinder basic defender, with the smaller steel wheels. But there’s a reason that with defenders, jeeps, Tacoma’s replace the tires with meatier tires for off-road use.

[@SteelBelted]

@@Wynorrific somebody with an early 110 or 127

[@gc2234]

@@Wynorrific should have done it properly like this guy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXrLko2NZZKspNk

[@andreas4687]

bit more pressure would have helped the tire to survive, even if you loose traction.

[@roboticgrits]

What a shame about the Defender! I had high hopes for that bad boy... SMH

[@baatarmunh]

Nice real life off road testing. I really like how Tommy has come to his own lately. Way to grow into your own space ! Bronco is really big, which is a minus in this sort of terrain. But I can see other areas the Bronco can shine. For a place like Mongolia, where I am from, reliability is crucial. So will see how the Bronco will turn out in reliability

[@Lord_ofcinder]

Funny thing is in arab countries ford are known for shitty reliablity and jeep and toyotas are knows for being tough and it shows. Jeeps are everywhere here. They take these vehicles to all mountainy and desserty areas but then in the distance on top of the mountain u will always see one dude revving and jumping his toyota hilux

[@baatarmunh]

@@Lord_ofcinder Toyota has passion in producing vehicles that will get you there and back in one piece. That assured feeling is what they strive to deliver and actually do just that, all the fancy stuff are secondary thought it seems

[@Lord_ofcinder]

@@baatarmunh Very true. In arab toyota and nissans are super sought out for offroading. Nissan patrols, Jeep wranglers and toyota Prados and land cruisers are very famous here. Bronco hasnt released yet here so probably this will pick up as well, but defenders are literally driven by women who go to malls and starbucks and shit, my dads old gmc would probably floor a fender on a trail

[@baatarmunh]

@@Lord_ofcinder Ford or Ram is great in the US with the support infrastructure, but out there in those parts like Arab or Central/North Asia you need something less gimmicky

[@baatarmunh]

@@Lord_ofcinder My favorite is the 70 series

[@zman92630]

You did the public service by showing us firsthand the limitations of a narrow sidewall with larger rims, even in your capable hands, guys. Sorry it happened, but stuff does happen, right? Great video, and keep up the great work!

[@alanj7306]

They didn’t look capable to me. Crappy trucks and crappy drivers.

[@nowwah05]

@@alanj7306 Always someone like this

[@ahmedbhana8301]

@@alanj7306 crappy comment. Why do you even watch. Just carry on sleeping.

[@aidanahearn5072]

There really not that good, and they make too many excuses but it just shows that now they still make good enough vehicles to get anyone through a trail

[@antonygibson_]

@@aidanahearn5072 i dont want to insult tfl, but in offroading you are always learning. some people just instinctively do it better than others, but at least tfl are trying. plus, I bet they're better than most of the people that buy the cars.

[@EerieVonIII8574]

lol buy a $70k+ defender and get a cheap O'Riley's auto parts scissor jack.

[@trentniemetz5831]

Not even o’Reillys would sell a better jack that that😆

[@FJUH]

Buy a $70k + Defender and have to pay even more to make it off road capable!

[@fobmsg]

i m surprised no body spotted the harbor freight inflator

[@trentniemetz5831]

@@fobmsg I spotted that too when I saw the Pittsburgh logo on the side

[@Snookchaser007]

@@trentniemetz5831 definitely harbor freight

[@jamieeisenhower1560]

The Jeep will always do better and the biggest plus is solid axles or always be the king And frame Keep it going Jeep