Can-Am X3 Smart Lok Diff Tore Down & Explained | Halo 30 & RCV Axles Install!

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Blown Budget Offroad

Blown Budget Offroad

3 жыл бұрын

The smart lok diff that comes in a lot of canam x3 utv's have been kind of a mystery how they truely work and lock. On our last trip to Windrock park I broke the diff and while installing the halo 30 and rcv axles we decided to tear the smart lok down and explain to the best of our knowledge how it works! Hope this helps someone, thanks!!
Can-Am X3 Smart Lok Diff Tore Down & Explained | Halo 30 & RCV Axles Install!
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Justins machine is a 2019 Can-am X3 XRS. It is 72" wide and 172 horsepower. Suspension is setup to the fox tune with some additional ride height added. It is running 32x14x10 sticky Maxxis Roxxzilla tires on 14x7 Alba Crusher Beadlock Wheels with a 5+2 Offset. It has a Evo Powersports Shocker cat delete exhaust, Gear grabber shifter, Front limit straps from sandcraft. Warn Axon 55s with super atv front winch bumper. Super atv high clearance trailing arms, L&W Fab rear High clearance billet radius rods, CT Raceworx front end gusset kit, tie rods w bump steer delete and high clearance lower A arms. It has SuperATV Trailing arms, still running stock axles with the factory smart lok front diff, also running a Razor Sharp Customs Cage.
Billys machine is a 2020 Polaris RZR Turbo S Dynamix. It has a Trinity racing exhaust and tune, L&W Seat Lowering Bases, BS Sand Seats, Gear Grabber Gated Shifter, Trail Armor Full Skid Plates, Full Orb Suspension with 2" stretch, 32" Maxxis Roxxzilla tires mounted on KMC 15x6 wheels with a 5+1 offset, and Super ATV X300 300M Axles all the way around, KB3 Driveshaft, 33% Gear reduction in low, Skinny Pedal Fab Bed Delete with Razor Sharp Customs Cage
Joshs rig is a 2021 Polaris RZR Turbo S Velocity. It has L&W Fab Seat lowering bases, stock seats customized for a lower seating postion, gutted stock exhaust, skid plates, 32" Coyote tires on aftermarket beadlock wheels, Trinity Blow Off Valve, Full doors and i think thats it for now!
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@rickdennis605
@rickdennis605 3 жыл бұрын
Great exploded view discussion on the diff. Thanks for tearing it down and sharing the information. Hope the new diff works well for you
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BrandonM7777
@BrandonM7777 3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos -- especially thanks for this one. I'm glad there's now a video so people can see this - I've tried to explain it with words a bunch of times but nobody ever seems to understand it. This type of locking mechanism is used a lot, and it's actually very effective - but that's only true if the clutches are sized appropriately and whatever is providing the clamping force has enough strength and range of motion to do what it's supposed to do. Tons of vehicles like the Toyota Land Cruiser, basically every Land Rover, some Jeeps, blah blah blah use this concept in both their "center diff" in the transfer case and in their front and/or rear diffs. It works great to go anywhere from unlocked to completely locked at will. But again, that only works if the clutches are strong enough. Think about practically every motorcycle ever made - they use a similar clutch pack and spring(s) to put clamping force on it. That allows them to go from completely disengaged to completely engaged every time they start off. We don't consider those "not truly locked" as long as the clutches aren't worn out and they're big/strong/grippy enough to hold the power and weight of the bike. The same would be true with this diff - if those clutches were big and strong enough, and the actuator could put enough squeeze on them to hold, it would indeed be fully locked just like when you let the clutch pedal out on your car. Unfortunately it seems like this clutch pack is way too small and flimsy for what we expect it to do. Land Cruisers can run this arrangement for hundreds of thousands of miles without issue. Those plates in your diff are already smooth in practically no time. That sucks. This is a tried and true idea in the automotive industry for variably locking two shafts together. Can-Am just screwed up a fully functional (and actually awesome) system with under-engineered clutches. Shocking, Can-Am ruined a great idea with crappy details. If someone could make a better quality clutch pack that might be the best solution for most owners. Most people don't need the big expensive option we have now -- you do, but most people probably don't. They just want the Smart Lok to work like it's supposed to and not wear out in practically no time at all. There's a company in South Alabama ( www.altousa.com/ ) that stepped up and made clutch plates for Victory owners when they had no good options. I have no idea how, but it would be cool if we could get someone like that the specs of the stock clutch pack and see if they could make something that would actually last more than a few hundred miles. I love the functionality of the Smart Lok, but nobody wants one that only works for a short time after every $300 clutch pack replacement.
@kaseyemd8504
@kaseyemd8504 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the teardown video fellas!
@DirtRoadBoyz2
@DirtRoadBoyz2 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the classic intro. Here we gooooo!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta get justin to update it a little lol. Rigs have changed massively -Josh
@kylejackson2823
@kylejackson2823 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this vid!! Well worth the wait! So far my '19 XMR, 1k miles, diff. works fine. Been seeing a lot of X3's having front diff problems. Seems like it happens when there is a lot of side pressure on one wheel. Maybe relieves pressure on clutch pack? Idk. Anyway, keep the vids coming!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@martyeldred2132
@martyeldred2132 3 жыл бұрын
I did the same upgrade on my 17 rs with 2 trips to windrock and its finally nice to stop worrying about that weak link when you rock crawl. Keep on rockin guys
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Just find the next weak link now 🤣
@thomascornelius510
@thomascornelius510 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet. The toys are back in town. 😛✌👍
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
🤘🏻
@philjackson7996
@philjackson7996 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Very informative. Great job!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SketchyXC
@SketchyXC 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool, i hope it turns out to be rock solid and problem free for you man!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Got heem!
@ProjectAjax
@ProjectAjax Жыл бұрын
Good explanation! I have had some what I thought was mishaps with locking front diff and it turns out it's probably just wore out! Yall got a sub from me down here in North FL. We ride deep mud and water/clay etc. Keep on keeping on!
@Bill14886
@Bill14886 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for the update
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@austinconklin08
@austinconklin08 3 жыл бұрын
When in 4wd non diff lock the ecm and front diff module monitor multiple parameters such as wheel speeds, rpm, throttle input. Normal 4wd non locked acts like the older visko lok and based on what it sees, it uses the stepper motor on the actuator and ball ramp to actively modulate pressure on the clutch pack several times a second. The trail active modulates more aggressively than trail and moves priorities of sensors around accordingly. Mud mode allows more wheel spin differentiation Rock is even more aggressive in modulation than trail active. Then when diff lok is activated it applies full pressure to the clutch pack and locks both sides true 1:1. Clutch packs are a wear item and if beating on the unit hill climbing and rock bouncing they will wear faster than desert, sand or trail usage. If performance is starting to diminish within the 4wd system, clutch pack likely requires servicing. Portal boxes and larger 40+ inch tires can also increase the wear on the clutch pack. Source: am CanAm tech
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@starRayxx
@starRayxx 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, thx Austin. Gotta a 2021 X3 RC RR on order and not liking what I’m hearing. But then again I probably won’t be as hard on mine. How many miles did your diff have on it before it went bye bye?
@ernestogonzalez2528
@ernestogonzalez2528 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent explanation!
@austinconklin08
@austinconklin08 2 жыл бұрын
@@starRayxx sorry for such a lengthy delay. YT doesn't like to inform you every time you get a reply. I don't own one but I've worked on all of BRP's product lines exclusively for almost 6 years now. For the most part the front differentials on these are impressively robust considering what folks put them through. The last few years of CanAm Off-road product success in KOH, Dakar, BitD I think have solidified that. Did you get your RC and if so how are you liking it so far?
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 3 жыл бұрын
I learned something today! Thx guys...
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
What did you learn today man!?
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad How the inside of my fathers smart lock differential works!
@seanpeakes8739
@seanpeakes8739 3 жыл бұрын
That diff is a thing of beauty. To bad it’s in a spot where it will rarely be seen.
@davidrobbins6978
@davidrobbins6978 Жыл бұрын
2021 rs turbo rr halo diff and rcv expensive but works great. live in east tenn. rock climb but everything will break. had it for awhile still goes good but drive shaft had to have help.
@brandonbaldwin6845
@brandonbaldwin6845 3 жыл бұрын
The "got em" clip was a nice little touch laughing at your own pain, knowing that you blew an RCV on the first ride! Looking forward to the Alabama videos!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
If you only knew the struggles to come lol
@brandonbaldwin6845
@brandonbaldwin6845 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad #blowndiffoffroad
@SketchyXC
@SketchyXC 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man...
@jwezzy1329
@jwezzy1329 3 жыл бұрын
My clutch pack went out on mine at about 500 HARD miles, when I say it went out acourse both tires wasn’t pulling good. Put another clutch pack in worked like new again.
@calebgood3590
@calebgood3590 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2019 xrc turbo r, riding in a similar way as you. I haven't had any real slipping of the locker, and I run 35's. Watching all your videos, I get the feeling the crack occurred prior and is what created the failure.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Send it harder it will slip eventually lol
@scottfatta8133
@scottfatta8133 3 жыл бұрын
I had my clutch pack crack as well around 1800 miles. I'm running a 20 xrc rr car with 32`S. It worked great at first but noticed the last few 100 miles ( before the loud bang ) that it was acting up. From what I noticed ( when I tore it down ) the clutches are always spinning whether it is locked or not and the actuator applies pressure to the clutch pack depending on which mode you are in. So the clutch pack is a wear item that needs to be replaced. I always tend to run 4wd to keep the rear wheels from spinning but since the rebuild ( now knowing how it works ) i only run 4wd when it is needed hoping to keep the wear to a minimum. I like the way the smart-loc performs so fingers crossed that I get way more miles on this clutch pack. It works like it should again.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
If only people shared more information so we could understand it sooner lol
@okatexoffroad1813
@okatexoffroad1813 3 жыл бұрын
So jelly of the lift man... life goal for me.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Been a dream for us also!
@paulg.gerard4804
@paulg.gerard4804 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@djlansing2724
@djlansing2724 3 жыл бұрын
*Noooice Video!!* Makes me wonder if the only difference between Rock, mud, and Trail module is the name on the switch..? 😃😃😃 😅😅😅
@chadhall5921
@chadhall5921 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah boys glad to see ol traitor back together 🤘🏻🤟🏻👍🏻
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned 🤣
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 3 жыл бұрын
I am so anxious to see how this works out as this is the Avenue I plan to take. Now get to riding lol.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Oh we beat the rigs down! Lol videos are being edited and uploaded as we speak
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve been riding with the new halo 30 and have videos being uploaded? I hope so
@rosscarr9884
@rosscarr9884 3 жыл бұрын
Have a 2021 with same exact problem just stripped the gear, thought about welding it to not spend 1400 bucks on it...... when you welded it how was the drivability? And how long did it last?
@Greg89740
@Greg89740 3 жыл бұрын
Hope it works out interesting setup stock
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
🤘🏻
@ericgalloway461
@ericgalloway461 2 жыл бұрын
Killed mine this weekend. Worked great pro rock racing. First trail ride on 35 Zillas and it broke.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 2 жыл бұрын
Halo or smart lok?
@101rotarypower
@101rotarypower 3 жыл бұрын
Have the Visco HALO , if there is anything I can check for you if you are curious. I think the wiring and actuator are the same. Thank you for doing such a great job pulling the smart lock apart and explaining what the hell is going on in there! I know its a PIA to film mid job particularly with oil and grease on everything, so thank you for being so detailed about it. I think the difference between the smart lock modes is the "Inputs" it uses to decide when and how much lock to employ. Mechanically they are identical but the parameters when it wants to lock are different, like how quickly it will actuate, how many rotations before it gets aggressive. Its nice to see the inside of one, where and how they fail!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Just trying to bring quality sxs content
@101rotarypower
@101rotarypower 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad Nailing it for me, getting a lot of Real relevant content here. Things I am not seeing many other places, keep doing what you are doing.
@tcnpsu1
@tcnpsu1 Жыл бұрын
Hi! How do you like the Halo Visco upgrade? What axles do you run? So torn about what direction to go.
@101rotarypower
@101rotarypower Жыл бұрын
@@tcnpsu1 Run the stock axles as I have read they are the “best” solution overall. If you are aggressive or don’t have a soft touch, HALO30 is likely the way to go. Another channel was able to swap the HALO30 parts into the visco case. If I have trouble, might go that way, but don’t anticipate it will be a problem.
@KC-7mm
@KC-7mm 3 жыл бұрын
Traitor is gonna be a tank with that new diff
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the plan anyway
@calebgood3590
@calebgood3590 3 жыл бұрын
Felt like a d**k! Love you guys and how you ride! Always look forward to your videos!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned!
@calebgood3590
@calebgood3590 3 жыл бұрын
You're probably right unfortunately. Sad day. And will be looking out for the next vid!
@davidrobbins6978
@davidrobbins6978 Жыл бұрын
oh yeah they work with s3 gusset kits too
@chanzsmothers9447
@chanzsmothers9447 3 жыл бұрын
Save that factory ring & pinion gear if its not damaged. Thats usually the part that will break in a halo diff. Also read at some point on the smart-lok....it disengages the "lock" above a certain speed and also passed a certain steering angle that its suppose to unlock
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@Lionshead0810
@Lionshead0810 3 жыл бұрын
Really love the video! Traitor is a beast and i love the build and trying to follow the same setup as my bank account lets me :P. What cage are you running in Traitor?
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Justin puts in hard work that’s for sure. We all are running Rzr sharp customs cages.
@adamgaines5922
@adamgaines5922 3 жыл бұрын
Blew a halo diff on windrock trail 44 this weekend!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Sick. Hope it gets all fixed up for ya
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 3 жыл бұрын
Which halo did you have?
@smilfenoffroad9306
@smilfenoffroad9306 3 жыл бұрын
Nice setup, can't remember if you have already upgraded your driveshaft. If not, keep a spare. Rode with a guy that went to that front set up because of the same problems you were having and now the problem has moved to breaking driveshafts.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
It’s upgraded, I believe it should be mentioned in the next video
@jareddavis2854
@jareddavis2854 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad what oil to put in halo 30 have one coming in a couple weeks
@Bill14886
@Bill14886 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that locker is a POS ! AS much as a pain in the ass it is to lock my diff in and out on my Yamaha Wolverine x2 it sure beats that sloppy slip diff on that Canned Ham. All the $$$ we she'll out on these rigs and they make crap like that. So glad your putting a awesome diff in it. Cant wait to see you back in action
@rzrrollin5948
@rzrrollin5948 3 жыл бұрын
Add another 100hp, 32s, and 500lbs to that thing and lemme know how glad you are with that diff
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Yamaha has a good design, it could be stronger too for our style of riding lol
@eastcoastriders1267
@eastcoastriders1267 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting about the smartlok. Now im wondering if you could throw some friction modifer in the diff like you can limited slip car diff to get it to grip better.
@rzrrollin5948
@rzrrollin5948 3 жыл бұрын
Probably could but you’d be changing a sensor once every time you ride it
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Who knows.
@erikperkins4020
@erikperkins4020 2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys have a way I could send you some pictures of my I actually broke the whole bottle case and I’m definitely wanting to go with something stronger let me know
@stacyreid5077
@stacyreid5077 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so the Halo diff works basically like my old 06 Rhino front diff it runs in 2wd it the switch and it goes into an open diff allowing the easiest tire to spin, then hit the switch again and it goes into a full locked diff making both front tires to spin. Seems like they would’ve done that to begin with at the factory. Which makes me think of putting a CanAm Commander motor into my Rhino. By the way how is Aleah doing with the pregnancy good luck to y’all
@mandytuning
@mandytuning 3 жыл бұрын
The service manual explain in detail how it works,it have a actuator,a locking solenoid and wet clutch pack .the actuator fully pulls what they call the"ball ramp" toothed pawl,then the solenoid lock the small gears inside the actuator assembly and shutdown the actuator to rest position .yes ,the clutch pack have to hold the right side spider gear hub locked in place, so if clutch pack spins probably your clutch are worn out or oil is degraded.thats why so important to replace often the diff oil.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. It showed signs of slipping very early in life though
@Boosted_Tractor
@Boosted_Tractor 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if you could add more of the discs to the clutch pack so it puts more pressure on it
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Just weld it 🤣
@brokesxs2547
@brokesxs2547 3 жыл бұрын
Hope my diff stays together!!!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Prolly won’t of you ride with us 🤣🤣🤣
@brokesxs2547
@brokesxs2547 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad : good to know ct gusset works with that diff ! I bought the same gusset after I seen you put it on your x3
@jareddavis2854
@jareddavis2854 3 жыл бұрын
what oil do you put in halo 30
@rzrrollin5948
@rzrrollin5948 3 жыл бұрын
Have fun with the orange boots 😂😂😂 thinner than paper.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
So we have heard 🙄
@roberthoughton458
@roberthoughton458 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed my ass off with the its a boy comment. Good ole dr Billy delivered
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Billy made a funny!
@jasonbowlin7562
@jasonbowlin7562 2 жыл бұрын
hows that halo 30 holding up
@alwaysdifferent
@alwaysdifferent 3 жыл бұрын
Where you guys from ? I know in lot of your video you go to the cliffs and the badlands? I’m from by Rockford IL. Always looking for guys to wheel with. I got a 2020 xds RR . Pretty built up. Next month I’ll be going down to the badlands.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
We are in Wisconsin. Usually those ride days are spur of the moment. Keep up with social media and our fb group to see when we have a badlands ride again
@alwaysdifferent
@alwaysdifferent 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad awesome! I’m always in Kenosha Wi that’s where I’m from. I got a big group going to Windrock in May. And going to Moab. In September and October
@jake24680
@jake24680 3 жыл бұрын
The locker reminds me more of a "limited slip" differential. Just that with it locked, there is supposedly enough force against the plates, that it does not slip at all... like you said. Not a true "locking differential". It really reminds me of the electric locker i used to have in my Tj wrangler. It was a limited slip until i activated a button that magnetically pressed enough pressure on the plates inside the diff, to make it so called lock. I forget what it was called now, but i think it was made by Eaton.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Seems that’s what they tried to mimic in some sort of way. The system does well for the avg consumer
@jake24680
@jake24680 3 жыл бұрын
And yes. The one i had in my jeep, locked up great for a year or so. After a few years it got to the point where even when i flipped the switch, only one tire would have torque to it. I do believe over time i completely burned up the clutches inside to the point they would not catch at all
@Stupidwon1234567
@Stupidwon1234567 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that Eaton locker was called the "ected"
@jake24680
@jake24680 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stupidwon1234567 yes. That is the one.
@jake24680
@jake24680 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if they even still make it. In my case, in my TJ, it only lasted about a year and a half. I barely ever actually "locked" it, but the clutches seemed to wear out in a short time. I had to add a limited slip, friction fluid when doing the diff fluid changes. Maybe i didn't have the mix ratio correct. The ECTED worked great as a limited slip, while the clutches were good. :)
@tannerblair1721
@tannerblair1721 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not positive but I’m guessing there is a computer that is watching the difference between the 2 wheel speed sensors and as it senses more difference it turns that gear engagement plate more to lock the diff.
@CascadingDream
@CascadingDream 3 жыл бұрын
I think the slip in the front diff keeps the drive train from destroying itself. These SxS's, all of them, aren't bombproof to begin with so I can't help but think the clutches probably extend the reliability for most users. I think now that you have a halo and RCV's it won't be long before you break the drive shaft.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Most users is for sure what they are after
@mudbuck318
@mudbuck318 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance y’all will fix Ticky as a spare rig for trips and throw in the 4 spider gear upgrade to the front diff for the yxz?
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 3 жыл бұрын
Great question!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
This is a question for billy to answer lol -Josh
@mudbuck318
@mudbuck318 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad Billy pleaseeeee we miss some YXZ content, bashing into obstacles is some much more entertaining to watch lol
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for the next video series. They are the hardest we have ever beat any machines down
@mudbuck318
@mudbuck318 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad I’ll be waiting lol and for y’all to make a wellsville trip 😂
@doc559
@doc559 3 жыл бұрын
🏆🏆🏆👍🙏 Thank you for.sharing
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support
@dustinbieri9786
@dustinbieri9786 3 жыл бұрын
3k for a diff!! And I thought a billet rzr diff was expensive!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta pay to play. Still better than a dynatrc or a currie for a jeep is how we look at it lol
@user_generik
@user_generik 8 ай бұрын
there are many types of locking diffs, like torsen who uses wormgears, viscous and clutch locks, yours is the last one, nothing unusual
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 3 жыл бұрын
Are the axles the same length right and left like the stock set up? I’ve heard different reports and I’m just curious
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the cup on the diff side is different. From what I understand this diff was originally made to replace the visco loks -Josh
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah there’s been a little bit a debate between a buddy of mine and myself. I know on the visco lok diffs there are two different length axles but my buddy is saying that the halo 30 upgrade on the smart lok versions have interchangeable axles like the stock SL. I know RCV and Turner axles are tough but a spare is always good and it’s would be nice to only have to have one spare from axles to cover breakage on either side
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
If you look at the thumbnail on the picture you can clearly see that one of the inside cups has a longer shaft. At least I can from the link on Facebook lol -Josh
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s what I thought but said buddy claims that I don’t know what I’m talking about ha ha
@tonybaloney5606
@tonybaloney5606 10 ай бұрын
Why did y’all stop making videos?!
@motorfntrash4254
@motorfntrash4254 2 жыл бұрын
How much hp It has
@davidloop4206
@davidloop4206 3 жыл бұрын
So basically this is a electronically activated positrack, or limited slip differential, which worked fairly well if maintained. And it is why I have read some are changing the oil often, like every engine oil change.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the theory anyways. This diff did the three wheel peel early in life though
@titopacheco8616
@titopacheco8616 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Justin!!!! Im syked for you brutha... that Halo look beautiful in there....its what "traitor" and you needed my man, Cant wait to see the shit you conquer now LOL!🤘🤙
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Justin def sends it harder than ever coming soon! -Josh
@titopacheco8616
@titopacheco8616 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad YOU ALL DO!!! LOL!! I've seen the clips for the new stuff, like i said the day i seen em, you guys were out for "blood" and going more hardcore then I've EVER seen you guys go...absolutely bad ass !! Cant wait Josh, im syked!!!! Catch you then!🤙🤘
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Now only if we had a larger following we could beat down more brands 🤣🤣🤣 -Josh
@titopacheco8616
@titopacheco8616 3 жыл бұрын
Im STILL scratching my head as to why you guys are lacking in the followers/subscribers department ?!?!?!🤔 The awesome, bad ass content is there and the editing is truly very good too, so i been baffled myself my brother (smh) but i know one thing is for an absolute fact...KEEP grinding these vids out and continue doing what you guys do best (that is SENDING IT🙃) and it will ALL pay off BIG TIME!!! Ty my brutha!! Keep your heads up and all four tire skins DOWN!!!!🤘🤙 😜🎥📽💽💵
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t happen to still have that old diff do you? If so I would be interested in buying it
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 2 жыл бұрын
I do but hanging onto it for some dumb reason lol
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad if you change your mind or would like to have it rebuilt let me know
@lhurst9550
@lhurst9550 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any documentation, or trusted source, that says the lock allows partial engagement. Usually, if not always, diffs are fully locked or fully unlocked. The clutch disks are to allow a smooth cushioned engagement. The rack and pinion style engagement is probably there for a better positive engagement/disengagement and reliability (reduced clutch wear), the design is a whole lot better than a solenoid style engagement mechanism. Having a partial engagement is asking for the clutch disks to burn up, not good, not a good idea at all. I had thought/think the "smart" part is WHEN it engages automatically, not how much to torque to apply to the 'other' wheel. Also, that the computer is looking at spin difference between the front/rear, not side to side on the front.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Not really sure how to further explain. In theory doesn’t always translate to real world applications. We have lots of “field testing” that shows the diff isn’t always locked. On video. Not sure what else is needed to explain, there is a clutch pack that helps it slip therefore it’s not a true locked diff. -Josh
@lhurst9550
@lhurst9550 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad of course the diff is not always locked. Are you confusing 4x4 for a locked front diff? In 2x4 the front drive shaft is not under power. In 4x4 the front drive line is under power. The smart lock is only referring to the front diff being "locked" or the clutch pack being engaged, so the difference of 3 or 4 wheels being under power. 2 or "4" is determined in the transmission, where 3 or 4 is determined in the front diff. I'm just questioning if the front diff clutch pack is ever partially engaged; if so, it seems like extreme wear would happen shortly. Since the smart lock engages on the fly, under power, then you need a way to softly engage, hence the need for a clutch pack.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Not questioning any of if it’s in 2 or 4 lol There is a clutch pack and the computer decides how to apply pressure to that clutch pack. So yes it’s always partially engaged. Trail mode, mud, rock, and trail active one can only assume each have a different style of pressure applied do given information from the sensors. The held down button for “diff lock” isn’t true because if it’s locked it should just let one tire spin lol. Hope this video help all of us understand the diff more -Josh
@lhurst9550
@lhurst9550 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad The "assuming" part is what I am questioning. Where do you get the pressure on the clutch pack is variable. Documentation? source?
@BradFizer
@BradFizer 3 жыл бұрын
What size is your shop?
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s 30x40’ but there is a video of this roughly a year ago for details. It’s Justin’s shop. -Josh
@BradFizer
@BradFizer 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad thanks man I will look for it
@andrew140672
@andrew140672 3 жыл бұрын
In the same spot but blew a smart lock with 30s and 240 miles🤣🤣
@nuffsaid6807
@nuffsaid6807 3 жыл бұрын
Wildcat XX hmmmm arctic cat hmm already have it
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@markmanning6773
@markmanning6773 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, huh?
@randytingen
@randytingen 3 жыл бұрын
Sheer Entertainment
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for blow diff offroad adventures
@Bill14886
@Bill14886 3 жыл бұрын
O.k ok stop clicking that damn switch. Lmao. Chalk board finger drag. Ahhhhhhh
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Click. Click. Click. 🤣
@jkgtexas
@jkgtexas 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Now go break some more $hit!
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned !
@wtwoffroad
@wtwoffroad 2 жыл бұрын
200$ is a lot better than 700$ for the clutch pack on a talon front diff 🙄
@ericchrestman1127
@ericchrestman1127 3 жыл бұрын
What do y’all do for your job to afford these expensive parts??
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
We’re all in the trades. Never take our vehicles in for work, don’t hire people for much (if anything) basically do everything our selves and that all adds up.
@ericchrestman1127
@ericchrestman1127 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlownBudgetOffroad ok understandable
@jonathonhart9145
@jonathonhart9145 2 жыл бұрын
It’s to bad these engineers think there doing great things with all this new smart shit. Good old 4x4 then physical locker the operator can control is the best bet. This is why I went with Kawasaki teryx and will go with a krx next.
@ShaneBurrell1
@ShaneBurrell1 3 жыл бұрын
Oil doesn't look promising.
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
It will buff! 🤣
@hoagiesherlin7732
@hoagiesherlin7732 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a great way too blow 4600$
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
But wait! There’s more! 🤣
@arickhook370
@arickhook370 3 жыл бұрын
Traitor 2.0 lol
@BlownBudgetOffroad
@BlownBudgetOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Pimp my ride lol
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