Can an EV really handle better than an ICE…on Ice ?!

[@watchcommander2012]

Very interesting test the petrol engine had characteristics that you will never ever get with an EV no matter who makes them and this video proved that. Yes you can have fun in both however I know which one I’d prefer to drive in ice or snow conditions

[@Grant.G.Simpson]

nice looking car and a whole load of fun it seems

[@PetrolPed]

Indeed 👍

[@PartywithJakeandfriends]

Seems like a waste of your talent Pete, as I couldn’t imagine anyone utilizing this experience for any practical purpose. However, looks like you had fun and hey it’s Christmas so, why not…

[@PetrolPed]

Actually the reason all manufacturers use ice driving in their test programs is it highlights handling characteristics of cars at more slower speeds in a safer environment. They are a great way to tune weight balance, traction and stability systems and of course winter and all season tyres 👍

[@mikewallace1723]

Aside from fun, shows that when it snows EVs are more difficult to control. We do get snow occasionally in U.K., and could be even worse with EVs on the road😂 of course Norway has many EVs and more snow. Weight and accelerator control etc seem to be factors.

[@SWR112]

@@mikewallace1723Norway by law has all cars fitted with snow tyres in winter and the EV’s have proved no problem.

[@mgmarrison]

I’m gonna sound like a bore with this… what was the point of this video? Are Maserati expecting Grecale buyers to drive in conditions like that often? Are they claiming the world should be paying attention to the cars off-road abilities or it’s all wheel drive system? I waited throughout the whole video and still didn’t know why the car was there? Personally, I don’t think it showed the car off particularly well at all - and that’s nothing against your driving!! Nothing wrong with the overall quality, Pete - it was another good video 👍. In addition, watching you drive the EV variant looked painful - what a handful! 😅

[@PetrolPed]

You do need to lighten up a little 😜 The video was meant to be a bit of fun whilst showing cars dynamically in a way difficult to do in warm dry weather 🤷‍♂️

[@garrymatthews4430]

Great one Pete, shows that ICE on ice seems the best option. Looks mega fun

[@PetrolPed]

Yep 👍

[@michelfauteux4500]

Here, in Montreal, we experience that sort of driving all winter. However, public roads are obviously not an enjoyable testing ground. And, the constabulary frowns upon drifting. How conservative! Thanks for another informative and entertaining clip. Happy Holidays to your family, human and canine.

[@PetrolPed]

LOL 😂 Yeah I can imagine they wouldn’t see the positive side of that 😂

[@michelfauteux4500]

@@PetrolPed Oh yes, there's the little matter of insurance...BTW. Bravo for your new digs; very nice.

[@grantlouw3182]

I find it very curious that a company like Electric Classic Cars is able to convert an ICE vehicle to electric and despite generally having a decent sized battery system are keeping the overall vehicle weight very similar to what it was with the original power train but manufacturers like Maserati here have this massive weight difference for essentially the same vehicle.

[@PetrolPed]

Good point 👍

[@SWR112]

I think one is fitting bespoke packs to older cars and one has a heavier pack due to manufacturing efficiency and ease. Plus todays modern EV’s have such good systems designed to look after the pack in hot and cold climates maximising the range. The bespoke Car conversions don’t have the range but remain as true to the character of the original Car as they can.

I wonder if we'll get any snow this winter/

[@PetrolPed]

It will cause havoc if we do as most of us will be on the wrong tyres 😂

[@PeterKirton-nu9iv]

Looked like a lot of fun

[@PetrolPed]

It sure was 👌

[@PeterKirton-nu9iv]

@ I would like to do the Porsche ice driving sometime when I win the lottery

[@kevinDG7]

Cars and show. What is not to like💁‍♂️. Nice intro

[@PetrolPed]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@wordreet]

Heehee, that did look fun! I'd have to use the handbrake a lot in my Astra Design Caravan!

[@PetrolPed]

A handbrake would have been useful 👌

[@shakesnbake]

You have the bsst job!

[@PetrolPed]

This was a good one 😂

[@enij7723]

2:00 for a good comparison you should use the same type of tires.

[@JonathanJayWalker-rs5sm]

Preferably Michelin!! 😉

[@roelolthof7179]

Nice electric. The ensured is verry expensive a think... Not to drive on the snow😂

[@SWR112]

I’ve always wanted to do one of these Ice driving days. Every manufacturer seems to have them with invited guests. “ Does sir or Madame like a frozen lake with their Porsche” 😁 I imagine it teaches Car control. Me and Ped are similar age and the few times I’ve needed to react in ice and snow and reacted well without thinking instantly is because of all the stupid fun when I first passed and took the cars silly places and deserted car parks to spin them around and see the limits and how to correct. Maybe I’m wrong and it doesn’t get imprinted in your mind but many many years later to this on ice and snow to react instinctively to get out of trouble. Even in the dry a few years ago I came round a country road (main road) A82 and a car had broken down on the other side on a bend and a Morrisons HGV was overtaking the stranded Car on our side and the girl in front in her Fiat 500 panicked and went sideways but we had no warning and traveling at 50 mph. I always was pleased with the way I reacted, calm, cool and in control to not ram into the back of her and put it down to a track day and driving course taken years ago on how to stop safely. Yes the systems in our Cars these days are brilliant and I could appreciate them at work with me to come to a complete stop as straight and as quick as it did. The girl only panicked a bit because she didn’t realise how quick a modern Car can stop if needed and had already decided to go up an embankment but the car stopped before it was a thing. Scary yes, no one hurt but I bet she is now a better driver for the experience. Ps hope you got to keep the beanie hat 😂 plus to me the EV in normal driving not trying to drift (sorry I don’t have a private frozen lake) will be better for everyday winter driving.

[@philipmichaelhughes5719]

Very adventurous Ped, must be good with nothing coming the other way? 😉 I’ve always advocated a session or two on the police skid pan as part of a driving lesson.

[@PetrolPed]

I couldn’t agree more 👌

[@jamesfernley8492]

What great video happy Christmas Pete.

[@solentbum]

Did you find that your EV drive improved with time, as you pointed out the power output is different to ICE cars (pun intended). ALso did you time your efforts, the lack of noise in an EV can mask the real speed you are doing. (No noisy motor)

[@PetrolPed]

Yes I improved with time as you get the hang of it. Didn’t time as that really wasn’t part of it. If you try and go too fast you get get loads of understeer 😂

[@pliniolimajunior5185]

People dont understand ! The petrol engines will dissapear !

[@TheFartfish]

And here we have some icy food for the algorithm ;-)

[@PetrolPed]

Yummy - ice cream 😂

[@mikewallace1723]

Interesting. Never thought about the different driving characteristics in snow. Avoid EVs when it snows😂

[@davesound7188]

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here? ICE better than EV? If we ever had ice like that in this country - regardless of what car I had I would be sat at home with my feet up watching news reports of people stuck in a ditch. It happened to me once in the 1980’s and I don’t want to repeat the experience

[@PetrolPed]

It was just demonstrating that two cars with different powertrains can have very different handling characteristics. The ice just makes that easier to show. In the real world what that means is people that drive an EV to the edge of its performance envelope should be aware that when it does lose grip it could well do it quite quickly and be difficult to catch.

[@stevie007]

HiHi

[@PetrolPed]

Hi 👋

[@johnbrown3951]

A video for all of us who are big kids and would love to do what you do. Jealous!!!!

[@PetrolPed]

It was a lot of fun 👌

[@johnbrown3951]

@@PetrolPed I bet it was.

[@michaelstaunton1632]

Good video 👍👍👍

[@PetrolPed]

Thank you 👍

[@dangreasley7934]

Fascinating... Well done with this one...

[@garryhayward-bird4618]

Looks awesome ped great video pal❤

[@mauricewatton9130]

Really enjoyed this. 👍