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It’s time for another infamous Carwow EV range test!
This time we’ve got our hands on six of the latest all-electric SUVs, and we’re going to run them from 100% to 0% to see how close they perform against their manufacturer’s claimed range.
The recently revised Audi Q4 e-tron is the car with the lowest claimed range here - it has a useable battery capacity of 77kWh and a claimed range of 336 miles. Next up is the Kia EV6 - its battery has a usable capacity of 80Kwh, and it comes with 347 miles of range.
The four following cars all have a much larger range - or so their manufacturers claim! The Polestar 4 has a useable battery capacity of 94kWh and a potential range of 372 miles, while the Tesla Model Y rolls up with a battery with a useable capacity of 75kWh, along with a range of 373 miles. The new Ford Explorer arrives with a useable battery capacity of 82kWh, and a claimed range of 374 miles.
The car with the supposed longest range is the new Porsche Macan. This is powered by a battery with a usable capacity of 95kWh, which is apparently good for a range of 386 miles.
So will any of these cars reach their claimed range? And more importantly, which will go the furthest?! You’ll need to stick with Mat to see for yourself!
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[@carwow]

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[@GamMngitSssEmoTionaL5953]

@Carwow Great video and great reviews of the car mate great work from team all round 🙏✌️ but I have to ask that's 7 different cars jumping out and into another are surely that kinda ruins the mileage from slowing down coming to a stop and then going off again ? Or when and if you find a charger when you stop are you just charging them up slightly to make up for that difference? Thanks for another great video and Happy Holidays to yours the family and the Team 🎄🤟

[@davidfujkk8018]

You just proved that evs are pointless with available battery tech right now and you have to pay more for the same distance travelled compared with diesel and gasoline powered vehicles.

[@Mr.FranciscodeMiranda]

C’mon carwow give us km too!

[@tim66612343]

This is really disingenuously @carwow. So much FUD. I mean you even went out of your way to stop at Leicester Forest east where you knew the chargers had not yet been installed. The next 2 services north and south are Watford Gap, 9 chargers and castle Donington 14 chargers. Obviously didn’t fit with your narrative. electric cars don’t fit for everyone especially if you’re in that 5% who drives long distances weekly but for the vast majority they are fine and in some cases better.

[@craig8638]

WLTP range estimates are ridiculous. EPA is much closer to reality.

[@ingocernohorsky]

How about an EV Challenge for 2 years old used ones?

[@TheRealEmile]

Wouldn't be massively useful considering it depends on how they were used, only way to do it accurately would be to buy several different EV's from a fleet but even then

[@weed46]

@@TheRealEmile it would be good to test how much can you trust the battery health %. For example, if a car with 90% battery health, actually delivers 90% of the range, and run it side by side with a brand new one.

[@thatpeskyswan]

@@TheRealEmile not really, everyone drives differently and a used EV could've came from anyone, i think a 2yr old EV test would be a great idea but would need either rental or doner cars from frieds/subscribers etc. it could happen. Matt's vid on the cheapest nissan leaf was a real eye opener with just its 54 mile range

[@TheRealEmile]

@@thatpeskyswan Literally what I said, hence why it wouldn't be fair or have any purpose unless you specifically knew the cars backstory

[@IReahpZz]

@@weed46you won’t see 10% drop in 2 years I saw that in my 8 year old 3 after 140k miles and constant 100% charging every day

[@Rexy_Raccoon]

Model Claimed Range (km) Actual Range (km) Percentage Achieved Consumption (kWh/100km) Polestar 4 599 536 90% 17.7 Porsche Macan 621 512 82% 17.7 Tesla Model Y 600 473 79% 16.3 Ford Explorer 602 468 78% 16.3 Kia EV6 558 451 81% 18.2 Audi Q4 e-Tron 541 431 79% 17.7

[@FirstLast-rh9jw]

What are these km things?

[@Rexy_Raccoon]

@@FirstLast-rh9jw The range in kilometers instead of miles

[@vishu3822]

thank you for converting it into the metric system

[@MCFrutek]

@@FirstLast-rh9jw In Europe, we use metric system.. we use km for range, not miles.

[@Harhawink]

then take pricing and charging speed into the equation and the Kia will just eat up everybody. Don't need to talk about warranty because the game is over already at this point. Talking about warranty and reliability would just humiliate others.

[@the_deee]

"News from the Porsche, Please check range" "So i checked range"

[@GallAnonim-jx2cz]

Meanwhile in China we have cars going 700km for half price of these in the test:) Electricity is ~0.08GBP/khw at home and 0.13GBP/kwh in public chargers. There are no any apps for charging just universal payment system that always works. Sales of EVs and PHEVs reached 60% of the market. Polestar 4 sales are basically zero even though it cost just 18k GPB to buy LOL. China=future, Europe=dead

[@SpottedSharks]

The best EV metric test I've seen is the "10% Challenge". Plug a warmed up car into a fast-charger at 10%, charge for exactly 15 minutes, then see how far you can go at 80 MPH on the highway before returning to 10%. This factors in battery size, car efficiency, and the car's charging speed.

[@paulbessell6154]

That involves breaking the law. lol

[@wildwilco]

@@paulbessell6154 could take it down to 70 or even 60 mph

[@cantkeepitin]

10% might be not again 10%, e g temperature has an impact

[@sdndkjd]

I hope to see Budget Electric car battery range test from £15k car like Dacia Spring to £30k cars.

[@yeahyeahblah]

Indeed, definitely a growing segment with lots of new cars like Renault 5, Citreon ec3, Vauxhall Frontier etc.

[@davidfujkk8018]

Carwow just proved that evs are pointless with available battery tech right now and you have to pay more for the same distance travelled compared with diesel and gasoline powered vehicles

[@dinohermann1887]

@@davidfujkk8018Technology will improve, I won‘t give up any hope regarding that 🤞

[@LittleBoobsLover]

also hyundai kona - very efficient car. Maybe electric cars after 100k km?

[@huiputka1]

@@davidfujkk8018 I would agree that EVs are not ideal if you regularly do 300 mile trips each way, however, most EV owners don't do more than 100 miles each way and charge at home. That's where real savings are made. I used to spend £200 in diesel each month, now I spend between £15-20 charging at home. Not to mention the savings from the 0 maintenance required for EVs where my diesels annual service was around £800.

[@luHopa]

Mat Watson running Carwow like Michael Scott 😂

[@JW-qf2fx]

would love to see how much Matt is single handedly increasing RAC breakdown pricing with all his EV challenges

[@TheBanterLounge]

All these comments when the video has been live for one minute, you haven't even seen what happens with the horse yet!

[@stvarnonevjerovatno3700]

The cheapest to run and most eco friendly?

[@geetee4037]

The haters just like to sound off because they love exhaust pipes.

[@erotallman]

​@@geetee4037yes, yes we do

[@erotallman]

​@@geetee4037And?

[@benjimc1]

Wait until they see what Matt did to that 🐐 too...

[@johnnyrosenberg9522]

Back in the old days when everything was in black and white and electric cars was not a thing, people always complained about the fuel consumption being way worse than ”promised”. Nobody seems to remember that today, though.

[@Them340dguy]

Yes but you went to a petrol station and Field up in 4 minutes and got 500 Miles out of it. Now you go to a charger that dose Not work and get 180 Miles in half an hour. Upgrade huh?

[@Sam-mq9cj]

You could argue the range of an EV is much more important to the consumer than the claimed MPG

[@Noneyabusinessok]

That's chalk and cheese. We knew manufacturers lied about the mileage. But we also knew that it was 5 minutes to fill up and pay and you could average 400+ now w these electric vehicles promise and guarantee their mileage etc. Unfortunately I think their tests are done on a flat surface during daylight. And when you drive an ICE you can call into any station for fuel. Battery you have to make sure that they have your type of charge and hopefully it's a fast charge. Imagine having to drive and plan your charges rather than just jump in and drive knowing you can call in for fuel anywhere. Those are different comparisons to the old days. And even when the manufacturer stretched the truth. You knew it was by only a few miles and expected that. With electricity that a few miles can leave you in the asshole of nowhere. And you can't walk and get a can of electric

[@johnnyrosenberg9522]

@Them340dguy I have not had those problems, so maybe it's a local thing. Most of the time I charge at home and the very, very few times I need to charge elsewhere I usually find myself enjoying that it takes some time, and even if I didn't, it would be totally worth it in the long run.

[@johnnyrosenberg9522]

@Sam-mq9cj As far as I have seen it seems to be less important to people who actually drive electric vehicles. But sure, every rule have their exceptions.

[@rodneytomWA]

Full comparison chart: 49:40

[@purwantiallan5089]

Thats very interesting comparison indeed.

[@morri03]

Interesting so about 80% of claimed. However in reality you are doing permanent damage running the batteries out like this so take 80% of that range for what you could realistically use in the real world if you owned the depreciation machine, I mean car.

[@joshgoodman6534]

@@morri03 charging at home for free can not be beat. then the plus of the acceleration and full self driving tech is perfect

[@morri03]

@ good to know electricity is free where you live. What matters is the total cost of ownership and crippling depreciation is a huge issue with EVs because most people don’t want one. They are quite nice to drive as a second city car but if you enjoy driving they lack the drama of an ICE vehicle and their handling is impaired because of excess weight.

[@gigachad4489]

🙏

[@stijnhs]

Heated seats consume way way wayyyyy less than the heater. As an EV driver i generally just use seat heater and steering wheel heater when it's cold as this uses a tiny fraction of the energy the cabin heater uses.

[@MaximKilligan]

All those cars have heat pumps: that uses a lot less power than normal heating

[@TarkasBane]

I turn all of that shit on when it's cold. idgaf

[@ScouseSponge]

Thought the same, mat had the blowers on about 4/6 bars which probably lost 10% of the range across the journey.

[@joel9873]

If I have to pick and choose which options I can use when I drive that isn't going to work for most people. I don't think the support car had to do that.

[@Prakicov]

That is kinda expected for real life test. One will never go into numbers and KWh. They will turn the heating on, just like any ICE car. You need to get there, not to analyze battery consumption while driving...

[@UntLion]

This was a genuine surprise, but I love these videos! Glad to see that they're still going every now and then!

[@BobBaumeister-g8v]

Formme the most intresting one was, that they have more or less the same consumtion per mile. So the decission is more on other specs like style inside/outside, horsepower, battery size and chargingspeed.

[@FirstLast-rh9jw]

@@BobBaumeister-g8v Electric cars are like fridges, they have the same charateristics, more or less the same efficiency as you spotted. Handling is out of question when many of them are way over two tons. Its like deciding which fridge you want, check the specs, then get a .... white one.

[@FFVoyager]

​@@FirstLast-rh9jw there are a lot of cross-platform sharing - the Ford and the Audi have the same MEB platform underpinnings as the Skoda Enyaq and VW ID4/5 and the EV6 is using the same Hyundai E-GMP platform as the Ioniq 5 and Genesis GV60. The Polestar uses the Geely CMA platform as does the Volvo XC40 and many Chinese market cars we don't get yet and I suspect other VAG cars will soon appear using the new PPE chassis and the Macan while Tesla are unique to themselves.

[@rocketman69420-s]

@@FirstLast-rh9jw you'd be suprised by how the toruqe and hp boost masks the weight while turning in corners...the handling for lots of EVs end up being better than their ICE non-sporty counterparts. Now ICE sport cars vs EV sport cars is a whole different conversation...

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@rocketman69420-sis it possible to include engine swap on these EV machines?

[@haitch04]

The cheapest of these cars is around 40k and the dearest around 80K. So let's not get carried away here. Most people's price range would include the likes of Renault Zoe or Nissan leaf where the luxury and range are way below the cars tested.

[@RustyBonnet]

Sort of agree, but it seems that PCP or leasing is the way forward with new cars. A majority of our office now lease their cars and around half ar EV's. So it comes down to a monthly cost. Used, then id fully agree with your statement. Maybe later in the year, i will be going for the R5 as a second car to my opposite end of the scale M140. We would only need two cars if we move out of london.

[@Itsopzac]

Come on Skoda🎉 *Cameraman never dies*

[@TheAegisClaw]

Claimed range is always a combined cycle, so if you're not doing any urban driving you'll be well below claimed range in any EV.

[@drunkenhobo8020]

Yeah they test them like a petrol car where motorway driving is more efficient. But with an EV you don't get the regen from braking.

[@zlmdragon.]

@@drunkenhobo8020 surely there's claimed range for both situations somewhere on the internet?

[@rhesarozendaal]

plus the weather looked pretty miserable. 15-20% less range in winter sounds about right to me.

[@zlmdragon.]

@@rhesarozendaal winter?

[@aaronmastrogiacomo6078]

I own an ev in Australia, so i may not see such a decline, but it blows my mind they lose charge because it's cold. ​@rhesarozendaal

[@GIOGS]

Getting sick of asking: please put the numbers off all the cars on the screen instead of just talking on the radios

[@motorsforthemasses]

A final overall chart to show all claimed vs actual mileage would have been good.

[@benaaron445]

@@motorsforthemassesThere was at 49:40

[@jyhleung84]

​@@benaaron445and what was the average speed?

[@benaaron445]

@@jyhleung84 We’re talking about mileage not speed mate. But to answer your question they were most likely going the national speed limit on most roads. I imagine between 50-70mph considering a lot of this would have been on the motorway

[@Nasir_VR6]

Man’s tired of asking Matt!

[@RolandKontson]

18:47 Very nice interior 49:40 summary 49:55 UK fuel price

[@chrisfreeman2238]

Another point, my old Polestar 2 was bought with a claimed range of 230 miles. I routinely drove it to 225 miles. Which was great. But then they release new software that was to better manage the energy consumption, and now the range bumped up to 250 miles. But I would still get the same 225 mile range, the best was 200 miles driven and 25 stated as reserve. I would have loved to drove it to a stop like you did to see what the real mileage was like.

[@dragonfilth13]

21 plate LRDM here with 65k. Summer I was getting about 240, winter is more like 170 These tests are a bit useless though, in the real world you'd just pull in and add charge as and when. Imagine doing this with ICE cars 😅

[@ArktinenPeikko]

@@dragonfilth13 Me being broke always do that with my cars... "Just need to get one more day out of it to reach payday to fill her up" etc 😂 To be fair, never to complete stop (on purpose at least) but to basically running on fumes. I do get your point tho. Seems like the most common complaint for EV's here in Finland is that "you need to go and find a charger to get more electricity" without realizing that its exactly the same with any petrol or diesel car too... or gas powered. that is if you live in an old apartment building with no chargers added to your parking area. I wonder if used polestar would be a decent first EV. How's the range nowadays with your car compared to new? not like 65k is much, but still more than a brand new.

[@GallAnonim-jx2cz]

Meanwhile in China we have cars going 700km for half price of these in the test:) Electricity is ~0.08GBP/khw at home and 0.13GBP/kwh in public chargers. There are no any apps for charging just universal payment system that always works. Sales of EVs and PHEVs reached 60% of the market. Polestar 4 sales are basically zero even though it cost just 18k GPB to buy LOL. China=future, Europe=dead

[@sudiptodas0001]

unless you are forced to do it, draining your battery to its limit regularly will degrade your batteries quickly

[@FFVoyager]

​@@ArktinenPeikkodo you regularly drive more than 330 miles a day?

[@jameswebster5672]

Matt hazing the interns.

[@hermesliteratus882]

The interns are just pathetic.

[@FFVoyager]

1:55. Electric seats are NOT a 'bit of a drain on the battery'. You would not be able to discern the tiny amount of energy they would use. But setting the climate control at 20 degrees would make a difference!

[@riba2233]

Yep, incredible how people don't realise that

[@FFVoyager]

@riba2233 it's worse when somebody with some influence mentions it on a KZbin video! Actually using the cabin heater can increase or reduce range dramatically - when you are short of range just drop the heat and gain usable range. Turning an electric seat heater on or off will make no difference at all.

[@rsoul3748]

Electric "heated" seats

[@nomansland120]

Yes. Heated seats are recommended over using the climate because the power consumption is much less. Motorjournalists know fucking nothing.

[@Obvsaninternetexpert]

Google says Tesla’s heated seats run at 50w….. so 50wh per hour of use In about 5 hours (guessing) it would use 250wh It did 252wh per mile So 1 mile

[@sherkaneshraghi5324]

Thank you for doing this comparison test. I would like to share one more analysis if it hasn’t been shared already in the comments. This is total size of the battery divided by total miles. This shows total efficiency of the car. I did the first one with units and I left the units off for the rest. Polestar: 94kwh/333miles = 0.2822kwh/miles Porsche: 95/318=0.299 Tesla: 75/294=0.255 Ford: 82/280=0.293 Kia: 80/280=0.286 Audi: 77/268=0.287 With this in mind, the best efficiency goes to Tesla with smallest number 0.255. The next is Ford, Polestar, Kia, Audi, and Porsche. Although the overall range is a great value to consider for longer trips, the total efficiency of the car equals to how much we pay as the consumers on energy usage (in this case, electricity). If i can spend less on the same exact 2000miles of travel, i will go for that. Even if it means i have to charge more frequently. Thanks again for the wonderful content and honesty. If it is possible, please add this number to your future end result table. Wonderful job and keep up the great work you do.

[@sergeykuznetsov4314]

Electricity costs are insane in the UK, a 600 mile drive for me in US is like... $20-30 in an electric car in Washington

[@JonathanPalfrey]

This is very much the absolute most it could cost using the most expensive chargers. The Tesla for example would have cost about £35-£42 in reality.

[@FirstLast-rh9jw]

Yup, its part of the ongoing decline of the country. No more steelworks, industry fleeing these shores.

[@iamthesmart-smrt]

Superchargers for the Tesla are way cheaper, but they failed to mention that part.

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

Coal is cheaper - they use that to make these EVs in China

[@ALFOONUS]

I pay $9 for 300 miles, so it appears you are the one paying more, I'm in the UK

[@clarkeyboy6969]

Love these real world reviews.

[@Flynbourne]

It was so real that as soon as he got to Scotland he immediately turned around.

[@USUG0]

indeed, kind of pointless these days. On long trips what counts is the combination of efficiency and charging speed. 1000km Taycan 8h40m estimated ModelS 8h55m Macan 9h30m ModelY 9h45m Polestar4 10h00m Petrol car (one 15min stop) 8h35m

[@Twin.motors]

​@@USUG0 That time you have for the Y is for the old 57kw battery, not the one in this video which should spank every other Y time.

[@USUG0]

@@Twin.motors ​ @Twin.motors nope! It is for the MYLR AWD. The time for the MYrwd is 9h55m. If it is the LRrwd probably 9h30m at best

[@Twin.motors]

@USUG0 so... You're just guessing ? Maybe we should wait and see the real world results. The Y rwd long range is substantially more efficient than the other Ys

[@chrisreid6237]

There’s no way you pay your crew enough to get into the boot like that 😂

[@kam1034]

It's interesting looking at the costs vs diesel at the end of the video because, with some simple mathematics, you can tell the charging arrangements you have are generic and heavily unoptimised. According to the video, two fast charges for the Polestar costed £140 meaning that one fast charge costs £70. For the Polestar's 94kWh battery this comes out to £0.75/kWh which is about market average, but with a £10.50/month IONITY subscription you would pay just £0.43/kWh. Hence, two full charges for the Polestar at that rate would come to £80.84 (£40.42 per way) and, if you were to factor in the £10.50 subscription cost, would come to £91.34, which is just about level with the diesel car. Important to note that the IONITY subscription also lasts for the whole month and not just for one trip, so the subscription cost would be spread out over the month depending on how much its used. Obviously this only applies at IONITY stations but other networks can have their own arrangements - Tesla offers charging at Tesla superchargers at around that same price point also for a monthly fee, but this fee is waived if you're charging a Tesla. There's also Plugsurfing+ which works with a bunch of networks and Electroverse offers a small discount on a bunch of other networks if you're an Octopus customer at home. Additionally in the scenario where the first leg was charged at home, according to the video, a home charge + a fast charge for the Polestar costs £92, and if a fast charge costs £70 as calculated above then a home charge in this case costs £22. This would be £0.23/kWh which again is about right for a normal tariff, but an EV tariff like Intelligent Octopus lets you charge at £0.07/kWh which means that a similar charge would cost just £6.58. Assuming that you fully optimise your charging arrangements, you could make that same trip in the Polestar for just £47 (£6.58 for the home charge + £40.42 for the single fast charge back) or essentially half of what the diesel car would cost.

[@kamosleh]

Really useful comment thank you!

[@brianperkins7036]

Or simply have an ICE car and you can ignore this crap and just drive.

[@ryanisjones]

Tesla Super Chargers at peak times are £0.51/kWh. At non-peak times (middle of the morning when they were charging) they would be £0.38/kWh. That means a full charge on the 94kW battery should have been £36 to £48. If you charge at home it is £0.25/kWh or £23.50 £0.75/kWh is not an average cost, it's costly.

[@ingogud]

Also, framing it like this is super misleading. That is a road trip worst case scenario for an EV, like you mentioned, 300 miles on minimal home tariffs is less than £20, whereas the diesel has to pay that price always, every time. I would like Mat to mention that please.

[@kam1034]

@@brianperkins7036 Diesel cars are slow, dirty, needy cars that their owners pay more for the privilege. You would be insane to turn down the opportunity to pay less for a faster, cleaner, and more reliable car.

[@matpat2636]

Using the 94 kWh battery in the Polestar as an example, it did the journey there and back in 2 full charges, using 188 kWh of electricity. Using the average price per litre of diesel at £1.42 it seems as though the Skoda used around 64.8 litres of diesel. There’s approx 10.25 kWh of energy in a litre of diesel, so the Skoda used around 664 kWh of energy to go the same distance, compared with the 188kWh of energy used by the Polestar.

[@kittonsplodge]

This is rarely discussed. EVs are massively more efficient than ICE cars. Once battery energy density improves there will be be no contest

[@Saddex]

@@kittonsplodge It's also the reason why EVs tend to blow ICE cars out of the water on running costs when not using DCFC. It's astonishingly cheap. And in Norway and Sweden, fast charging prices are much more reasonable.

[@kovu159]

If the electricity were miraculously produced, yes. But you have additional efficiency losses in production and transmission of the electricity.

[@matpat2636]

@@kovu159 indeed. Because diesel is magically produced and just jumps out of the ground and straight into your tank. Of course there's additional energy involved in getting it to the cars, but the calculation is for the energy used by the cars. If you also want to add the energy costs in production, diesel (or petrol) would be an order of magnitude less efficient again.

[@E4RLIES]

The magical dinosaur fluid Sköda sounds like a dream come true! One recharge for the complete journey. Charging only take a minute Cost is much less than ev (when using public charging) Efficiency will not reduce in terms of range . (In 5 years what will the batteries capacity be…?)

[@ctk4949]

Wow that Polestar getting that much range in 8c temp, is really good.

[@kennethsmyth]

Massive battery of course it should do well

[@ctk4949]

@kennethsmyth Not true, the Lyriq has a massive battery and it's range is not that great.

[@micglou]

@@ctk4949 Just because there is an example of a car with a big battery that doesn't have great range, doesn't change the fact that the bigger the battery the greater the range... so yes, absolutely true.

[@ctk4949]

@@micglou OK just because it has a massive battery doesn't mean "it should do well". lol

[@iamthesmart-smrt]

If you gave the Tesla a 95KWh useable battery it would have done over 375 miles, real world.

[@danielstrange290]

If the Polestar was on its standard wheels it would have gone even further ! Crazy, good work Polestar 😍🏎️

[@purwantiallan5089]

Polestar's engine reliability is surprisingly amazing too.

[@christianolsen9781]

Crazy good? It has a huge battery.. both Tesla and Ford is more effecient.

[@quavohuncho6156]

@@christianolsen9781Yes and Polestar 4 weights alot more also

[@Vahndamme]

​@@christianolsen9781 efficiency doesn't matter.. as you increase weight, you decrease efficiency.. so in the end; only thing that matters is.. how far did it go? How much of it's claimed range? And how much did it cost for it's equipment? + it's harder to put a value on.. -> sentiment value. All in all, if you want an EV that goes crazy far.. you can, it can go way further than this. But it'll be heavy, a nightmare to handle and so on. Like basically one giant battery, 4 tiny wheels with efficient af tyres and efficient electric motor. All while having a very good aerodynamic shape. + barebone and very light material.. Conclusion? No luxury, no space, no sentiment value, hardly any proper design as it'll just be curvey and definitely not much fun to drive and in the end it'll still be expensive due to the high costs for premium lightweight materials.. and ah yes, it'll probably be unsafe and not street legal. So all in all, seeing all these packages. We know Tesla is quite barebone, good lightweight, awful looks, efficient motor, sentiment value for many is second to none and so on. It is 'cheap' and practical yes. It is an appliance more than it is a car but that's my take. I'm glad the Polestar won and the other cars performed like they did. Well.. some absolutely not worth their price tag. Though EVs are constantly changing due to their nature of increasing it's dependency on advanced tech. It moves fast and will soon surpass even ICE vehicles in all categories. Just a matter of time. For pure city driving with a home charger it already is vastly superior, which is majority of people's usecases 90% of the time.

[@shinoMusic]

​@@Vahndamme you are wrong about the weight. Solid state batteries are around the corner and barely increase weight for 40-50% more range.

[@POTThaesslich]

I think the most important part here is the last 30 seconds. EVs are no longer cost competitive if you rely on public charging (and with VED coming in), thus the slow uptake

[@viktorhedlund8655]

Matt didn't really give the whole story. If charging at public chargers adds £48 and the cost of one charge each at home and at public chargers is £92 total, then the cost of only charging at home is £44. Basically, the EV is only more expensive for roadtrips but it's less than half the cost in day-to-day driving when you charge at home

[@justinseau]

If you’re road tripping and are able to charge at your accomodation for similar cost to home charging, or even free, then it still comes out on top. Otherwise, yes, DC fast charging is expensive.

[@wgemini4422]

99% of the charges would be done at home. If you can't, don't buy an EV or find a better home, simple as that.

[@TheLoneWolfling]

@@wgemini4422 "If you can't, don't buy an EV [...], simple as that." Sure; this may explain some of why EV adoption has been lagging estimates. I'd be very interested in seeing estimates of what % of cars are driven >500km at least once a year. Among the people I know it's over 90%; this is anecdotal evidence of course.

[@The_History_Man]

@@viktorhedlund8655If it’s charged with Octopus Go or similar the cost of a full home charge for the Polestar would be £7.52 if charged on the cheap rate over night (8p per kWh). So the actual cost for the round trip would still be less than the ICE vehicle even if a high speed charger were used for the return leg (most are between 75p and 85p per kWh).

[@DC-pe3fr]

Working for Mat looks........painful

[@GenjiShimada]

It looks fun

[@robertnewhart3547]

Degrading.

[@hermesliteratus882]

Humiliating.

[@Johnny91832]

This is an entertainment channel after all.

[@Ash-so6qn]

I think what Matt is making these guys do for the sake of entertainment is not good at all. Would he treat his dad that way?

[@TheHammaJoe]

Please repeat with transporters, e-sprinter, e-ducato and so on

[@TheHammaJoe]

But dont fill the space with humans 😂

[@lerr001jr7]

In The model Y you can indeed recline the chair in the rear, although not by much. Just pull the lever to either the left or right side of the headrest (against the door frame) will allow it to slightly lean backwards or forwards

[@justinseau]

Glad someone brought this up, even if it’s just 3 indents and about only 5 degrees.

[@gatoleblanc8432]

Mining lithium is a water guzzling extreme toxic pollution metal for the planets ocean and waters, it is way cheaper to mine toxic lithium than it is to recyle it and it is very difficult to recycle, this is why 99% is not, the pollution it causes to the planets ocean is not sustainable, its like a nuclear chernobl to the planets ocean every year, due to the heavy toxins and pollution in mining lithium, when a lithium car is still in the company assembly line it has already polluted more than a hydrogen fuel cell car that has been on the road for more than 125000 miles, the secret about hydrogen fuel cell cars is that each car actually cleans the air as it runs due to it`s clean watered electrolysis when released onto the atmosphere, hydrogen fuel cell cars have become remarkable cars with the new technology, fuel cell cars are the future not toxic lithium cars! we all have to start the switch!

[@Keepingthefaith72]

I wish somebody would test how far an electric car would travel when it has 4 people and luggage in the car .....

[@PierreVilleneuve88]

Not using the electric heated seat is a big mistake. It sips a tiny fraction of regular cabin heating.

[@ilvars5251]

😂

[@GHOOGLEMALE]

Agreed - hardly uses anything at all, maybe a mile or so of range. Using the car heater and AC really dents it.

[@Fanaleds-software]

Yeah weird. Even with heatpumps, the electric seats are using much much less energy.

[@davidcottrell570]

Let’s clarify this. I’ve owned a Volvo Recharge for two plus years with a heat pump. Love it. The biggest consumer of power for heating is keeping the battery warm, even at 6C unless you’ve been driving half an hour or more, or have pre-conditioned. I use my seat heater all the time - they draw about 2-4kWh of power. The Range Optimizer tells you exactly what you use (the P2 and doubtless the new P3 have one). Once the battery is warm, using the resistive seat heater will use more power than the heat pump. At 6 Celsius, they’re quite efficient. But make no mistake, warming even a 75kW battery uses a lot of power, let alone the 111kW one in the Polestar 3. You just charge a bit more frequently in Winter in a coastal climate. If you live in Continental Europe or North America with well below sub zero temperatures, the battery is being warmed all of the time and efficiency suffers, just as it does with an ICE vehicle.

[@sprockkets]

​@davidcottrell570 that's weird. I never need to heat my battery in my niro, and my heated seat uses maybe 50 watts.

[@rennmeister7418]

Watching this video made me anxious.

[@Nevercash]

Sensitive are we?

[@Matchupeechu87]

My Diesel BMW 330D will do about 580 miles on a tank and when it gets down to 15 miles in the tank I top her up at a garage in about 5 minutes. Simples. And I don’t worry about its mileage depreciation with age.

[@nuss529]

that's not even good for a diesel..

[@davidhobson7851]

@@nuss529it is for a 260 bhp diesel!

[@midlandgeordie]

And the planet?

[@Nevercash]

'Don't worry about mileage depreciation' and 'BMW' in the same sentence is funniest thing I've heard all week.

[@MyMednas]

You have to drive somewhere and waste time filling up? How quaint!

[@itzpogboy]

Lets keep in mind these figures are when they are in completely optimal range conditions meaning eh about 50mph speed and also it should be 20°C outside to 25°C and here it seems to be no warmer than 7°C as it's winter in northern England! 😂

[@itzpogboy]

So cold weather takes a good 15% 25% range less

[@martyn5333]

Add in the average cost of depreciation over a 1 or 2 year period. Vs a standard combustion engine

[@jonathantaylor1998]

On Autotrader, a brand new, unregistered, 421-mile range, FACELIFTED-MODEL Porsche Taycan RWD costs £84,250 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2022 plate, 314-mile range, ‘OLD-SPEC’ model with 36,000 miles is selling at £44,940 = 53% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the BMW 840i M-Sport Gran Coupe - which costs, brand new, unregistered, £64,995 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2022 plate used model with 22,000 miles is selling at £38,600 = 59% resale value, so only a 6% difference which, when you consider it's a brand new spec Taycan with more power, more range. better dynamics but it's used example is less powerful, has less range etc etc then the 6% difference is remarkably close.

[@zoransarin5411]

So many people have this fascination with 1-2 year depreciation figure. How many people sell their car in 1-2 years of buying it new? The average age of a car in the UK is 8.5 years, which is higher than it has ever been. This number includes new cars, leasing cars, and fleet cars under three years old. The average age of a scrapped car in the UK is around 16 years old. So your very specific question is pretty irrelevant. You should be comparing them after 8.5 years to be relevant to the majority of people.

[@davidowen2859]

​@@jonathantaylor1998Your not taking into account all the options added. I bet the 2022 has at least 10k options or like mine 30k.

[@MinisterievanBeeldFilm]

In the Netherlands we charge for 22 eurocents per kWh at the Tesla Superchargers. Quite a bit cheaper.

[@JRCarReviews]

Glad to see others getting better range than Tesla, now it’s pressure on Juniper to break new record.

[@trevorshields7347]

If it had the same sized battery it would have been well ahead with no less than 4miles perKwh

[@ChocolateFrog]

That Audi is shocking for £60k. What a joke.

[@RealConstructor]

I’m fearing already for my ordered company car, a Cupra Born (also from the VW conglomerate) which will be delivered in February 2025. It has a smaller battery capacity. I hope I can drive back and forth to my brother, about 230km away. There is hardly any public charger in about 3km range where he lives and my brother doesn’t have a private charger. Otherwise I have to use a fast charger along the highway and add at least half n hour to the already 2.5 hour journey back.

[@gibbogsi]

Thats why i bought an a5 diesel cost 13k approved used from vw with 3 year warranty and paint guard etc... does 150+mph 65mpg 800 miles max range well specced as well. Ulez free with adblue on it too. Did a 500 mile trip to my sisters, car absolutely rammed whole family in it and had 1/3 tank left when i got there. Edit tbf all new cars are a bad deal tbh. 60k for a q4 though absolutely robbed savings on fuel or no savings.

[@Armed-Forever]

The audi looks the 2nd best in the right spec & at 79% it’s in line with Tesla

[@siamiam]

Skoda had full power all the way

[@martinsoelby5902]

Exactly. The last painfully slow miles are utterly irrelevant. Range stops when power gets restricted.

[@rahansk8200]

full power until the end, but it is not very big.

[@TheEryk03]

Skoda is the winner of this test.

[@rantingyoof6960]

ICE motoring is going to win in terms of convenience and cost in any situation where the test is to drive to Scotland and back over two days using public rapid charging. This sort of test is admittedly quite entertaining but it represents a vanishingly small percentage of actual real world use. The last time I did more than 200 miles in one day was November 2022, and the last time I did more than 200 miles in one direction in one day was June 2018. It's a shame Mat Watson doesn't say as much in the video, although I'd hope most people would realise that not every single person in the country is trying to go from England to Scotland every day!

[@shootingdutch]

@@rantingyoof6960 there is gotta be more to it then that. I have allready seen a lot of people switch to an EV and switch back to a ICE years later. They all drove Tesla, polestar, Hyundai and Kia. I think the biggest factor is pricing, I can't justify a EV with 80% of it original batttery and also losing another 20% in range in the winter, being way more expensive then an ICE, cost more in taxes and is just as expensive in consumption, while risking it being a totalloss when the battery dies.

[@stephenrussell6074]

Do EV challenge of 500 or 600 mile round trips. Include charge stops and determine total time it’s more useful and more realistic

[@rantingyoof6960]

No, find two people who regularly do 150-200 miles per day starting and ending at home. Give [diesel rep car] to person A and average range EV to person B and let them do their thing. Compare all costs incurred by both parties at the end. This STILL massivelyv exceeds typical vehicle usage in this country but gives a much fairer representation of the costs.

[@stephenrussell6074]

@ that’s comparing diesel and EVs which is pointless as we are going to run out of diesel even without climate change. All EVs will easily do that exercise and are obviously cheaper. I pay between 7p/kWh and nothing (solar). So even at 2mi/kWh it costs me less than £7 for 200 miles. For a Tesla model 3 it would be £3 for 200 miles. It is only worth comparing EVs and to get true comparisons you need tests that consider average charging speeds not peak and speed/range benefits. Lighter cars do better overall, more aerodynamic cars better at speed, better energy recovery and conservation gives more range. Need to do all of them to compare not just belt up a motorway at 70, that’s just weight and aerodynamics. Also take 2 identical cars, take one at never going over 60 the other going to 70 whenever do 400 miles. See which gets their first, there will be a charge. Since average motorway speeds are never 70 the car allowed to do 70 will be accelerating and braking more often.

[@rantingyoof6960]

@@stephenrussell6074 KZbin car people, those with anti EV agendas (not saying Carwow has one) and those sceptical of EVs are fascinated by the unfavourable comparisons you can draw between EVs and diesels, hence Mat's decision to include the Skoda in his test and compare the costs at the end. You and I both know that the test I suggested will reveal that you can run EVs at more common high mileages at a massively favourable cost compared to diesel. However, it's the sort of test that might actually cause the more open minded sceptics to realise that EVs are far more flexible and usable than videos like this make them out to be.

[@stephenrussell6074]

@ The main point of the sceptics is that only about 60% of the population have the facility to charge off road so a great bulk of people would have to use public chargers which make EV more expensive to run than a diesel. I actually believe it is much worse than that as flats with parking spaces cannot actually install charging facilities at a reasonable cost. Infrastructure and security both being issues.

[@kiphakes]

Leicester East Services chargers haven't been operational on any of the carwow challenges - when I drove past them a few months ago they actually had shipping containers parked infront of them.. I'm convinced there's just a pile of boxes under those covers 😅😅

[@ComeJesusChrist]

These six vehicles would have depreciated more in two years than almost all the Top Gear challenge cars put together.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

...in pretty-much the exact same way that ANY stupidly expensive car of any powertrain would do... For example, on Autotrader, a brand new, unregistered, 421-mile range, FACELIFTED-MODEL Porsche Taycan RWD costs £84,250 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2022 plate, 314-mile range, ‘OLD-SPEC’ model with 36,000 miles is selling at £44,940 = 53% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the BMW 840i M-Sport Gran Coupe - which costs, brand new, unregistered, £64,995 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2022 plate used model with 22,000 miles is selling at £38,600 = 59% resale value, so only a 6% difference which, considering it's compared to a facelifted Taycan with more power, more range and better dynamics vs an old spec used Taycan with less power, less range etc, I think is pretty good result.

[@zoransarin5411]

got any evidence? and how many people only own a new car for 2 years?

[@ComeJesusChrist]

@@zoransarin5411 I don’t need evidence for a generic, light-hearted comment making the point that EVs depreciate like a stone. However aggressively governments are pricing people out of their ICE cars, most people still don’t want EVs and we reject not just EVs and the inconvenience with the high cost of owning one, but also the false ideology behind it.

[@ComeJesusChrist]

@@jonathantaylor1998 No, that Taycan is advertised for that price and if you checked how long these adverts stay on for, you can also track the hideous depreciation. It’s strange that you mentioned the BMW 840i Coupe, but forgot to name the seven or eight EVs on the top ten lists by Autotrader and Autoexpress of the most-depreciating cars that along with the BMW 8 series, features the Leaf, Corsa E and small or medium sized family EVs as the most extreme cases of vehicles losing value in three years. People are aware of the extreme depreciation of high spec Maserati and BMW coupes or saloons, but small and family-sized EVs projected to lose well over 60% of their value is not right.

[@zoransarin5411]

@@ComeJesusChrist False ideology? lol. So JesusChrist is happy to see man destroy the creatures and the planet his father made. Fair enough. That'll teach him for send you done to pay for our sins and having you crucified for it. Getting back at pops huh?

[@GeoffSharples]

There's enough anxiety in life. I'll make sure range will never be one of them. Wouldn't have one given,

[@snookiewozo]

The fact the EVs were actually MORE expensive to drive is absolutely crazy.

[@TheBermudabob68]

That's because in the real world the owners of these cars would charge at home for about 7p a kilowatt hour. 80% of EV owners do this. I accept that not everyone can, but these are not cheap cars and if you can afford one you've most likely got a house with a driveway.

[@snookiewozo]

@@TheBermudabob68 Sure, but in this case, any ban on ICE cars is pure evil and reason for a revolution.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

It is... but only because the Government is yet to legislate for something akin to price capping for on-route charger costs/kWh - at the moment, in their words "to accelerate infrastructure deployment" it's the Wild West regarding pricing so, basically, operators are getting away with charging what they like. Remember, in the grand scheme of things, the public charging network is still in its 'infancy' - after all, the first petrol station wasn't opened until 25 years after the launch of the UK's first combustion-engined car...!

[@gatoleblanc8432]

Mining lithium is a water guzzling extreme toxic pollution metal for the planets ocean and waters, it is way cheaper to mine toxic lithium than it is to recyle it and it is very difficult to recycle, this is why 99% is not, the pollution it causes to the planets ocean is not sustainable, its like a nuclear chernobl to the planets ocean every year, due to the heavy toxins and pollution in mining lithium, when a lithium car is still in the company assembly line it has already polluted more than a hydrogen fuel cell car that has been on the road for more than 125000 miles, the secret about hydrogen fuel cell cars is that each car actually cleans the air as it runs due to it`s clean watered electrolysis when released onto the atmosphere, hydrogen fuel cell cars have become remarkable cars with the new technology, fuel cell cars are the future not toxic lithium cars! we all have to start the switch!

[@snookiewozo]

@@jonathantaylor1998 Government price caps historically always lead to insane price increases in the long run and general market disruptions. Terrible idea.

[@eugenereivillanueva]

My Results 1st Polestar 4 - 333 miles and 3.5mpkwh 🥇 2nd Porsche Macan EV - 318 miles and 3.5mpkwh 🥈 3rd Tesla Model Y - 294 miles and 3.8mpkwh 🥉 4th Ford Explorer BEV - 291 miles and 3.8mpkwh 5th KIA EV6 - 280 miles and 3.4mpkwh 6th Audi Q4 E-Tron - 268 miles and 3.5mpkwh

[@zoransarin5411]

What are you comparing? Range? If I put a bigger fuel tank in my ICE car than you have in yours, does that make me a winner? If distance is the measuring stick, sure. But if you are looking for most efficient car, which means more miles per kWhr, which means lower cost for every mile you drive, then you need to divide the distances you have shown by the battery pack sizes at the start of the video for each car. So: 1st - Tesla Model Y - 294 miles/75kWHr and 3.92mpkWh 2nd - Ford Explorer BEV - 291 miles/82kWHr and 3.55mpkWh 3rd - Polestar 4 - 333 miles/94kWHr and 3.54mpkWh 4th - KIA EV6 - 280 miles/80kWHr and 3.50mpkWh 5th - Audi Q4 E-Tron - 268 miles/77kWHr and 3.48mpkWh 6th - Porsche Macan EV - 318 miles/95kWHr and 3.35mpkWh

[@Armed-Forever]

@@zoransarin5411meh, Porsche may be the most expensive, but not by much and you’re getting a more luxurious car

[@The77Game]

Damn. I was hoping to see the Renault Scenic and/or Kia EV3

[@siraff4461]

Me too. I guess that leaves tehm open to do another one of these soon enough. Maybe they like Scotland.

[@lw2978]

I'd like to see the range of the EV3 that has the bigger battery and sits under £40k. You have to spend close to £45k (unless you like a rather dark orange colour!) to get an EV3 with a heat pump, which I think is a big mistake on Kia's part, as you're going to fork out £425/year in luxury car tax for years 2 to 6 in it's lifetime, so you're now looking at £47k. I appreciate not many people would buy outright, but even leasing/PCP'ing, these costs will add up. However, the EV Air spec in large battery form might be palatable, if it could get 80% of its range in decently cold weather. That would be 300 miles, which would be perfect for me.

[@siraff4461]

@@lw2978 Most ev's are srtuggling to get 80% of their range with one guy in them in decent weather. Have a look at this video on dry roads with one person in them while following trucks most of the time.

[@ashliehiggins]

Gonna have to do this again with the E-C3, Spring, EX30, and R5.

[@scottthompson7009]

It is phenomenal how much you guys pay for electricity in the UK, for the extra cost of an EV purchase price plus public charging there is no point buying an EV over there.

[@Sammy-lw1ns]

If you charge at home at 7p kWh which most do then there absolutely is.

[@mr.t6018]

😂 clear. And then after 3 years try to sell this Waste

[@Spleen214]

@@Sammy-lw1nsyou’re right, but you’re missing the point, just like everyone else. People travel long distances away from their homes.

[@Sammy-lw1ns]

@@Spleen214 most people aren't doing 600 miles round trips. If they are regularly then yeah, don't bother with an EV. Few times a year? Then maybe take the hit public charging. I've spent £120 on electric for the last 7000 miles, public charged twice. That's when they make sense.

[@zoransarin5411]

@@Spleen214 Using recent data, the average annual mileage of a vehicle in the UK hovers around 7,400 miles. That's 20 miles per day. So even the Audi, which went 268 miles, would last you 13 days before needing to charge. You totally miss the point. EVs, as a new technology, only needs to cater for the average person, or 80% of the people. So people with houses or access to home charging and people doing normal driving. Worry about outliers later.

[@paramountimagesstudiougand750]

Someone please get Mat a polestar😂

[@edwardbach5893]

Something I never see discussed is the actual ranges if you treat your battery as recommended. You are not supposed to go below 10%. In fact, once you get down to 20% you should abandon your destination in favour of finding a working charging station. On fast charge you are supposed to only charge to 80%. You can charge to 100% on the level 2 charger you installed in your garage (if you have one). But on a long road trip, you are pretty much limited to fast chargers. So ... if your car claims a range of 330 miles it is 297 miles with 10% left. But you can then only charge it up to 264 miles (80% of 330). So your practical range is only 264 - 33 = 231 miles. If it also only delivers 80% of its rated range when being driven normally, you are down to 185 miles between half hour stops to recharge to 80%. That is after a detour of 15-30 minutes to find a charger, which you hope is working. Might be fine for your daily commute and local travel for the normal activities of life but nowhere near suitable for long distance trips.

[@DiscoDesW]

You say: "That is after a detour of 15-30 minutes to find a charger, which you hope is working" I'm afraid you're just not up to date. In my EV on the sat-nav it shows you how many chargers are available at a charging station before you even get there and you simply choose another one.

[@xotoxpv]

there is a lot wrong with your statement, but that is usual. If you are expecting gong long, feel free to charge to 100%. It's the same as not to fill your gas tank to the brink, if it is going to be sitting for a week in front of the house. Batteries don't like to be at 100% too long. There is a safe cut off at the other end too. So if you'd go once a year below 10%, it is ok. If you do it every day, well.. expect problems. Yes, it is far beneficial to stop around 20% and charge up to 80%, you would take about 20-30 minute break. At these distances, you'd need that anyway. Their dashboard was saying more than 7h drive. You'd need to eat, visit a toilet, stretch, maybe do some sightseeing. Yes, by driving only on highway, you are losing 20% of the paper range. It is simple physics and air drag. By doing only city driving, you can simply get 20% more range. If you need to do 1000km every day, pure EV is not for you. Buy a plugin hybrid with about 100km range on battery.

[@chrishar110]

@@xotoxpv If you make over 1000 km every day it makes sense to buy a Tesla, not a diesel or a hybrid. It costs less to charge it at superchargers and return home almost empty to fill it at 6p/Kwh. You will save from services and maintenance too. You will need around 170 Kwh for that trip. If you leave home at 100% you will need one charge of 20 mins after 300km a second one at 600kms and a much smaller one at 900 kms, just to return home at 10% That will cost you around £50-60 at superchargers and £5-6 at home. Cheaper than a diesel or hybrid. I did it a few times with my EV and my son's diesel car.

[@xotoxpv]

@@chrishar110 we will definitely agree, however most people do not understand the simple logic of EVs. They calculate the charging cost based on prices without a programme or without the tesla supercharger prices and they expect doing 1000km without a stop and refuel in 5 minutes. It is hard to argue such emotional opinions with facts. Unless these people actually try it and realize that there is no problem, they won't change. I do suggest plugin hybrids to those, because they can feel at ease with the 5 minute refuelling thing while with the battery range of 100km, they can use the EV only mode within the cities and do not pollute them. Unless there will be some special cars or long range exchangeable battery packs, it is better to agree and nudge them to the better way of doing things. Trying to persuade them for EVs won't change a thing

[@Carla-t8u1e]

I've been waiting, another upload from you!

[@robinburn4974]

I'll buy an EV when I see an EV version of Outback Truckers

[@gone4good]

If I HAD to change to an EV...but I'm keeping my 2016 diesel VW Passat... It's a 2.0 TDI, Manual, "executive" interior (vented seats, massage, leather etc...) fairly standard. I takes me 1200km on a tank, fuel price here is 88GBP (1200SEK) BIG loading space, nice comfort. Value for money. (Drove Stockholm-Lissabon and back this summer - long range consumption was 0.5l/10km) I drove an ID BUZZ 30 days last year - loved it. And I don't mind stopping extra for charging on longer trips - just requires some planning

[@lordkered]

Ive been saying that for years... just get the promised range, pull out the calculator and times it by 0.8 .... THATS YOUR RANGE. Petrol, Diesel, Elec, it dont matter.

[@seansteel3326]

Not so fast. The Chinese cars seem to have their own testing and it is simply ridiculous. You would have to multiply by 0.7 to get the real range of any chinese car, EV or otherwise. Don't understand why car companies don't be more accurate with their figures.

[@FirstLast-rh9jw]

Then multiply it by 0.8 if its cold, and then again by 0.8 if its wet, and after two years of degradation, multiply that figure by 0.8... then accept that you'll have to charge for around 20 minutes for every hour of driving and the car out of warranty is effectively worthless.

[@robertimrie3710]

What erks me is they know WLTP isn't highway range but they make snide little EVs suck remarks. Says more about them TBH. Fact is all those cars are perfectly capable long distance highway cars and the Tesla was only the entry level RWD according to Matt.

[@esm7708]

​@@FirstLast-rh9jwIs someone making up stories

[@MNLPB]

@@lordkered rubbish, my Tesla had a claimed range of 316 miles from new and I’ve hit 300 miles multiple times. By your measure that’s 252 miles only..

[@venkatsai5765]

for conclusion: 48:56

[@tijnd7486]

When is the polestar review coming?

[@markgt894]

Only bots care about the Polestar !

[@tijnd7486]

@markgt894 mark

[@riba2233]

​@@markgt894 ok buddy R

[@ajwasthere]

@@markgt894 You spelt Tesla incorrectly.

[@INeedsMoneys]

@@markgt894you’re the bot… 😂

[@versus023]

in canada home electricity is around 0.08$/kwh. super charger are around 0.42$/kwh. Which is about 32 CAD to charge a model y from 0 to 100%. And if it does 80% of the advertised 500km, which is 400km, its still half the price of what I use to put in gaz in a 2018 golf for around the same km. And if you stard with a full battery at 0.08 it becomes waaayys cheaper driving an electric car here.

[@esco.letsgo]

So they want a predominantly EV society, but a Full UK driving licence is still manual only!?! 🚫

[@tomdiskin8090]

???

[@thunderbug8640]

Those public chargers are such a rip off. Not only do you sit there for half an hour but they also cost more.

[@Voyajer.]

Best to charge at home on the cheap and only use public chargers on road trips

[@oskar6661]

And using public 'fast' chargers costs the same if not more than normal fuel for each mile/kilometer driven, while damaging your battery long-term.

[@siraff4461]

@@Voyajer. Thats great unless you don't have somewhere to charge at home or do a lot of trips past range. Truth is the charging network is a joke. Its nowhere near enough coverage, way too expensive, way too inconsistent and nothing like the decent, reasonable infrastructure which is required. The cars already have decent range and charge speeds if you could just stop anywehere and plug into an ultra fast charger for a reasonable cost. As it is you could get lucky and have a cheap charger right where you happen to want to stop or you could need a massive detour then pay 80p/kWh. It should have been nationalised as soon as the government decided to go with ev mandates - or at very least price caps and heavy fines for out of service chargers should have been implemented very early on. I had a Leaf in 2011 and the charging network was a joke. Now there are more chargers but many more cars and the network remains a joke. The cars are much better now though.

[@wassap786]

The only public charging i use is Tesla, normally 50p ish a unit and i only charge to a max of 80%, minimises the time spent charging, normally done by the time ive had a pee and grabbed a coffee. But tbf if i couldnt charge at home, EV wouldnt be a viable choice, even if i like the power delivery and silent driving.

[@iamthesmart-smrt]

@@wassap786 Costs me 0.07p/KWh at home, worked out I'm saving over £3000/year on fuel.

[@307pug205]

Driving an EV until it runs out of battery, is a good idea, if done regularly it will shorten battery life, most manufacturers recommend keeping battery level between 20-80% to prolong battery life

[@gatoleblanc8432]

Mining lithium is a water guzzling extreme toxic pollution metal for the planets ocean and waters, it is way cheaper to mine toxic lithium than it is to recyle it and it is very difficult to recycle, this is why 99% is not, the pollution it causes to the planets ocean is not sustainable, its like a nuclear chernobl to the planets ocean every year, due to the heavy toxins and pollution in mining lithium, when a lithium car is still in the company assembly line it has already polluted more than a hydrogen fuel cell car that has been on the road for more than 125000 miles, the secret about hydrogen fuel cell cars is that each car actually cleans the air as it runs due to it`s clean watered electrolysis when released onto the atmosphere, hydrogen fuel cell cars have become remarkable cars with the new technology, fuel cell cars are the future not toxic lithium cars! we all have to start the switch!

[@zoransarin5411]

unless it is an LFP battery, which can operate between 0% and 100% safely. It is the NMC batteries the European car companies have chosen that need to operate between 20-80%. The base model Teslas and most Chinese cars are adopting LFP. It is slightly less energy dense, but you can use the entirety of the battery, it will charge for a greater number of cycles and it is more stable and less likely to catch fire, which is why it is preferred for home and energy storage systems.

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

​​@@zoransarin5411I've watched Engineering Explained's videos about LFP and no, depleting the car battery to complete 0 is still the worst thing you can do to a car. So is keeping it on 100% before putting it on storage

[@zoransarin5411]

@@MuhammadKharismawan It isn't the worse thing you can do. Here is an extract from a reputable analysis of this issue. Basically, LFP batteries can be discharged fully, but it is not recommended to be done regularly. The more often you do it, the lesser the number of cycles you get out of your battery. But it is much more detrimental to NMC battery types. "LiFePO4 battery cells have a maximum discharge depth of 98% to 100%. This is longer than any other battery technology currently in the market. This means that you can safely discharge these batteries to their full capacity. However, most manufacturers recommend still using a 80% DoD for these batteries to prolong their lifespan. Even if you occasionally use 100% of the battery capacity, the battery will not get harmed."

[@JetWash944]

Tesla say using the electric seats and steering wheel is much more efficient than using normal heating. The climate control prioritises it for what it’s worth and in my experience it’s definitely the case.

[@manojpataki]

other car journalist : This can have upto 5 bags in boot Mat : 2 men

[@rtxgaming8245]

15:09 I felt so bad about brotha😭

[@saltima]

what is so funny about seeing people in a trunk, the host was dying laughing?

[@MrSmartDan]

It's crazy how it's illegal to use your phone whilst driving but these EV'S just to change heat or any settings you've got to use a 65" wide screen tablet and it's completely legal 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@nigellusby8256]

actually - it is NOT legal & that's a big problem in the UK. according to the UK Law, you may only use the device "hands free", & that means via voice commands or steering wheel based controls. If the police think you are not in proper control of your vehicle because you are distracted by operating the screen you can be arrested & charged. Matt is very unwise to have shown footage of himself operating the screen. it could be used against him in a prosecution. as general rule, you should set-up all your vehicle settings before you start your journey, & if anything needs to be changed once started, you should: use voice commands get a passenger to do it for you stop safely & make the change(s), then proceed again All seems ridiculous, but the law is the law & I didn't make it!

[@Armed-Forever]

True tbh

[@thefransvan5966]

1% battery left, "consider" charging. Lmao

[@trying_a_new_username]

A similar thumbnail video was released in 2019 around this same time of the year which I commented on and it became the most liked comment of me, it was: 2010-2019- Smartphone battery drain tests 2020-2029- Car Battery drain tests... Can't believe half of the decade is already gone, Time flies!

[@koljak9125]

I'd go for the Skoda all day long !!!!

[@riba2233]

Ok buddy

[@tesla_models]

Same

[@Maku-mysr]

I will never buy an ICE Car again. Just too much noises and smelly stuff, plus they feel so incredibly slow and laggy now.

[@tesla_models]

@@Maku-mysr are ok with something like tesla model s plaid

[@_carfreak_2812]

@@tesla_models well compared to a Model S Plaid Even a Bugatti probably feels Slow and laggy. That‘s not quite fair. If someone got more fun driving a ICE car, whats the problem ?

[@mifster83]

so you can expect 80% of the range

[@xotoxpv]

IF you only drive on highway at higher speeds, then yes. The range from manufacturers counts with around 20% of low speed distance. You're using much more energy to overcome air drag when you go faster.

[@zedmas9744]

@@xotoxpv Make these cars make sense please. You pay premium prices to get inconvienced with them? The spec sheet says it's got almost 300bhp but best drive them 100km/h on the freeway and turn off your heating. Also when you sell them everything you saved in gas money gets eaten by the depriciation. Where is the hype?

[@xotoxpv]

@@zedmas9744 these anti EV claims can't get more ridiculous. If you buy a car for resale value, buy a veteran. Even better, buy 2nd hand and you won't be hit by the "massive depreciation". Heating an EV consumes about 1kW. A miniscule amount. You can drive 150 if you want, you'll just use more energy and depending on the car, will need to stop more often. 🤷

[@jeremysun7365]

no. remember. ev get the best range at 60kph or under. the faster you go from there, you need extra power to overcome the air friction. A petrol car does not have the same problem because petrol packs 40 times the energy from the same weight. But then waste them by running at 5% efficiency at low speed and 15% efficiency at high speed to make you feel like you gain milage when you go fast. EV runs at 95% energy efficiency on the other hand at a constant rate. In other words, if you are a city hopper going from traffic lights to traffic lights, your EV's driving range would probably go up to 160% or more.

[@rohangaikwad5937]

Just love this video carwow made I just love Ev's range testing video Carwow really did good job 👏 👍

[@NickHarding-p7y]

£500,000 worth of cars and £400,000 worth of depreciation after 1 year😂

[@zoransarin5411]

I find it amusing to see supposed grown adults laughing at their own stupidity. Good for you Nick

[@bigwangmark]

Electric cars are such a scam given the cost of charging works out to cost so much vs ICE.

[@zoransarin5411]

if you do simple maths, you would be able to easily determine whether an EV or an ICE car is cheaper for your circumstance. If you own a home or have access to home charging and you have reasonable priced electricity, then an EV is absolutely cheaper than ICE. If you can't charge at home, don't buy a Tesla and have to use expensive superchargers, then you are likley right. The answer is not as clear cut as you silly generalised comment.

[@chrishar110]

@@zoransarin5411 A Tesla even if you don't have home charging is if not cheaper, equal to a 40mpg diesel. If you charge at superchargers at the lowest rate (not peak times, that usually are between 4pm and 8pm) the rate is below 50p/Kwh, sometimes down to 30p/Kwh. It still makes sense because you have no oil changes, spark plugs, DPFilters etc.

[@DocPrakhar]

Hey Mat! Can you also fly to India and Review the New Mahindra XEV 9E? It is the car that is going to revolutionize Indian EV market and may release to foreign markets in future. It is going to cost around 20k-30k Pounds, but it packs a lot of Features for that price. I would love to hear your thoughts. They claim it is as good as a car double its price (similar to the cars in this video for 30k)

[@enamulhaquejoy6962]

Dude stop living in delusion

[@vininfar]

You just stop living​@@enamulhaquejoy6962

[@franciscodanconia4324]

20 years ago Clarkson drove a Jaguar diesel saloon from London to Edinburgh and back. In one tank. My how far we’ve come.

[@veloriderkm]

The cost vs diesel was very surprising

[@dihartnell]

Its only relevant for that particular scenario. It might be very different for other countries. The price of petrol/ diesel and electricity is vastly different in NZ depending on where you live and who your provider is. Where you live in NZ can make a big difference to what makes the most economical sense to use.

[@steffenkautz1460]

@@dihartnell Diesel also does exceptionally well at long distance travel at consistent power output. If you're driving shorter distances, like say a commute where you'll charge on home power only and have a lot more start-and-stop kind of driving, I reckon the cost comparison will look quite different.

[@dihartnell]

@@steffenkautz1460 when people on these forums take their circumstances and push it like it's true for everyone they fail to acknowledge what makes sense for them doesn't necessarily make sense for others. It really depends on everyone's circumstances as to what is best for them.

[@andrewbaskett8581]

Its wild how much cheaper electricity is in America. The Tesla superchargers are especially cheap - near me only would run you about $30 to fill.

[@paulvogel6303]

Yea, less at home

[@ohyesitsme]

UK has the highest electricity charges in Europe also the US and probably most other places in the world. Commonly known as "rip-off Britain"

[@TedMellin]

Dunno man i pay 11c/kWh in Finland including taxes and transfer fees. So can Fill my Polestar 4 from 10% to 80% for 8 euros or 9 dollars

[@GruffSillyGoat]

UK electricity is high because the tax charges for fossil-fuel usage are loaded into the price of electricity rather than natural gas. Electricity carries about 25% tax, whilst natrual gas carries 6% tax. This is done ws most people have electricity, whereas not everyone uses natural gas for heating/cooking etc. At current levels electricity has a hugher tax burned per kWh than either petrol or diesel does.

[@andrewbaskett8581]

@@GruffSillyGoat well yeah, thats because you guys make almost half of the natural gas you produce domestically. So the lower tax rate is encouraging its usage.

[@lr5777]

All those vehicles actually make the diesel Skoda SUV seem appealing.

[@Burebista61]

In short : the winner is Skoda diesel 👍🏻👍🏻💪💪

[@gerbre1]

In destroying the planet, yes it is.

[@trekrich28]

@@gerbre1 What about all those tyre emmisions from the EV's though? How much better is it over a Diesal, or a Petrol?

[@gerbre1]

@@trekrich28 Those emissions do not cause climate change. Burning fossil fuels has to be stopped immediately say climate scientists. Btw. my EV weights 1500 kg and runs on standard tires.

[@eal_ppl]

​@@gerbre1 It's nice to hear that whole batteries production provides 0 pollution

[@cupra2Jock.]

​@gerbre1 your clueless 😂 the amount of waste to create the metals and systems inside these batteries is unbelievable. The FUEL in the diggers, the oil they need. The FUEL in the trucks to drive round the world etc etc, then we have eco issues and slavery where digging for the materials...I'd stick with my ICE

[@BatManWayneCorp]

6:39 In that moment, just be thankful you're not testing the Cybertruck's trunk space 😬😂

[@tok713]

So the lesson here was ...get thet Skoda.

[@akashsolanki.]

49:41 thank me later

[@76CedricD]

Thank you so much, I was looking for this.

[@ODIOPOWER]

Diesel Master Race

[@riba2233]

Polluting the air peasants

[@DraaelD]

I finally did it.. I sat through one. Take that, short form video nonsense! Great job Mat and the Carwow team. Bonus joy was knowing exactly who was speaking. GG.

[@Wardiary24]

6 Billion Ppl use Km and not Miles .. At least put it on the side.

[@Markcain268]

Gives your brain a little exercise working out miles in to kilometres, I just use the calculator on my phone, it has a unit conversion mode, very useful app.

[@Wardiary24]

@@Markcain268 why should i use anything to change a perfectly balanced measuring system to a system that doesn't make any sense..

[@Markcain268]

@Wardiary24 so you don't have to whine about it on KZbin, sorry you don't understand imperial measurements, dividing by 12 is too difficult for some people, I find it easy to use both, and very handy having 2 units of measurement I can use!

​@@Wardiary24 Your whaaambulance is 3 miles away and will arrive imminently.

[@Wobra1]

Six billion people are wrong.

[@VSS1]

I suspect the McDonald's that you visited had an InstaVolt charger not an Ionity

[@ewaf88]

Like petrol, you should never use the last remaining electrons, as they can ruin your engine

[@yoof01]

Ooooh that’s a quality sound when you closed the Tesla bonnet 😂😂 anyone lost a Wobble Board?

[@anguspaterson5713]

The last sentence before your next video promo is so pointless. No one who charges their car at home before a long journey uses a high-price rapid charger. So that price difference you then created is just you having a dig at EVs using an entirely unrealistic scenario.

[@jamescrismore4741]

Tesla model y range on their website says 337 not 373 so it should be 87%

[@sl1nk3]

They also say the Tesla had a consumption of 3.8 mi/kWh but on the screen it says 247Wh/mi which is actually equal to 4.04 mi/kWh

[@nickyoung4799]

So you're only supposed to charge EVs to 80%, and then you only get 80% of claimed range. Therefore you can expect to get 64% of what is advertised. No thanks.

[@alexmonroe613]

You forgot you shouldn't discharge below 20% so the figure for "normal" use should be 80% of 60% 🤣😂 Also fast chargers shorten battery life but to be fair if you mostly charge at home and only occasionally use the full capacity of the battery and fast chargers this road test is valid. The problem comes when your car is sold... The used car buyer doesn't know if you've been kind to the traction batteries (and battery condition reports are currently somewhat unreliable!

[@nickyoung4799]

Thanks for clarifying that. So 80% of 60% is 48%, which is surely criminal misadvertising 😮

[@alexmonroe613]

@@nickyoung4799 The other things not considered properly here was the £92 fuel used by the camera car... The EV's had one occupant, no luggage and drove a simple journey - The camera car had how many occupants? and how much camera and audio gear or any other luggage carried by the team? How was it driven - was it "to and fro" between the cars on test etc etc. In other words if the "camera car" had one occupant, no luggage and an identical drive to the EV's would it have been more economical? Finally the big one... the elephant in the room... £92 in fuel earnt the tax payer about £50... The EV's earnt the treasury/taxpayer... nothing... in fact, in the real world they cost the taxpayer money in the form of subsidies and tax sweeteners... Tell me road pricing isn't coming soon

[@richbrock9876]

So the conclusion is one should buy a diesel Skoda. The more I see of modern cars the happier I am with my old faithful diesel bmw

[@zoransarin5411]

Many people were happy with analogue phones and didn't think they wanted or needed a smartphone. Fast forward to today and your "phone" is a phone, camera, live video device, newspaper, torch, calculator, credit card, bank card, email device, finds you a partner, tells you the weather and news, games machine, speedometer, navigational device, work device, spirit level, currency converter, unit converter, accesses your doorbell and home video surveillance system....the list goes on. If you are happy to pollute the planet and your friends and neighbours, and are happy to have to travel somewhere other than your home to fill your tank, and want a car with no future sotware operabilility, then sure stick with a diesel.

[@richbrock9876]

@ yes I’m extremely happy with my 600 mile range diesel (unless I stick to motorways and cruise control at 70 then it rises into the 700s). Replacing it with an electric vehicle would not help the environment one bit

[@zoransarin5411]

@@richbrock9876 Absolutely false Rich. There have been many studies which conclude that over its lifetime and EV is significantly better than an ICE car for CO2 emissions. One of the best studies undertaken in Europe looked at both different cars and different countries, as the benefits or otherwise of an EV are directly tied to where the energy comes from to charge it. That study found that in even the worst energy country, Poland, the EV produced few CO2 emissions. The greener the grid, the better an EV is over an ICE car. And that is the beauty of an EV. In all countries, the grids are progressively getting greener and greener as renewables take hold. You diesel will spew noxious gases out its rear year after year after year. But hey...its totally legal...so your choice

[@richbrock9876]

@ and of course the process of making an ev and fuelling it has zero harm to the atmosphere eh

[@thesolarfutureenthusiast1102]

So if you'd used home charging for the whole trip it would have cost around £45 i the Polestar, compared to the £92 in the ICE Skoda. Obviously when you are doing long trips this isn't possible in the EV. However trips are possible at comparable cost and every day driving, when home charging, is much cheaper. Thanks for omitting this piece of information from the conclusion. Great work.

[@matthewwallace4756]

How can it possibly end with EV’s are more expensive to run? Ive saved £2500 a year for 9 years using electric compared to diesel.

[@nO_d3N1AL]

Polestar is so nice inside, outside and very efficient. The resemblance to the Lotus Eletre is so apparent at the front, and is obviously the best value for money too!

[@Shez819]

Best car out of the lot by far is the Skoda diesel

[@marvinpolo3180]

this whole range debate is over. How often do you drive for longer than 3 hours without a stop? once every 6 months? Much more relevant is the price per km which equals efficiency, the availability of charging networks and the price

[@krasimirdimov4778]

Frankly, i don’t understand the obsession with the range of electric cars. With the sheer volume of chargers already available all across Europe, traveling long distances isn’t a problem at all!

[@Domarolist]

Cuz the it’s for us Americans

[@Domarolist]

‘Merica is huge

[@charliehunter4353]

Europe is small compared to other countries and continents. I thought Americans were egocentric but wow clearly Europeans are worse

[@Whatshisname346]

Yep and it’s skewing the market. All of the development resources are being put into cheaper massive batteries instead of making faster charging and longer lasting batteries more accessible. No EV should need more than 55kw of useable battery. We’re basically making electric cars for 5% of the actual market because of induced anxiety by car journalists.

[@charliehunter4353]

@Whatshisname346 that's a ill-informed and unintelligent comment. Bigger batteries are developed by designers and manufacturers. Better chemistries are created by researchers and scientists. Stop talking about things you have no idea about

[@MichaelStephenson12]

The problem I have with this test is the slow driving at the end skews the range and the total range of the car (albeit not by much). Drive slow and you can go further (the same in any car) so all the driving around at the end to get the battery empty is naturally going to increase the percentage of advertised range and the efficiency. You should show the comparison when you got off the motorway and how much power you had left, that would have been more accurate (but then again, if you had encountered road works later, that would once again change the numbers).

[@jeremysun7365]

the percentage means nothing. remember the actual range is a test of a mixed mode of driving using a standard test. we also know that if you drive at 60 kph you have a range double when you drive at 110 kph.