Can ANY Laptop Beat a MacBook Air? [Intel vs AMD vs Snapdragon vs Apple]

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The Tech Chap

The Tech Chap

Күн бұрын

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@Thetechchap
@Thetechchap 4 күн бұрын
Chaps! Macbook or Windows Laptop?? CORRECTION: 9:58 The MacBook/Surface Laptop text is the wrong way round - oops!
@seungisanrin
@seungisanrin 4 күн бұрын
What is a window? 😂😂
@kristen-johnshearman2696
@kristen-johnshearman2696 4 күн бұрын
Macbook all day
@kato1557
@kato1557 4 күн бұрын
I was a Windows user ever since getting my first laptop as a teenager. But in February this year I decided to change to a 13-inch M2 MacBook Air and I have not looked back since. Absolutely smooth performance with no overheating nor any technical glitches whatsoever in the 8 months I have had it. The beautiful midnight color is a cherry on top, absolutely gorgeously light and thin. I can see my MacBook lasting for years to come. My latest Windows laptop was an ASUS Zenbook which gave me problems as quickly as 3 weeks old. I had to go to the ASUS service centre no less than 6 times in my one year duration with the laptop and the technician would always not be able to explain what hardware is causing the issues I was facing like a randomly unresponsive touchpad, perpetual unadjustable screen dimming etc. They could only tell me to uninstall the latest Windows update every time I faced an issue.
@miles_tails0511
@miles_tails0511 4 күн бұрын
Windows because file explorer, multi-instance app tiling, maximize window not opening new desktops, and clipboard history. I had a MacBook for coding in internship, it’s decent for Unix & coding stuff, but once I do multitasking, files management & adobe, I simply can’t bring myself to relearn the whole Ctrl-Opt-Cmd scheme vs Ctrl-Win-Alt scheme. Also, windows always sports wackier hardware. I can live with the bugs, which are very few and far between since I switched to surface, no bloatware too :) Before 2016: whatever my fam had in the trash 2016-2023: Dell XPS 2024: Surface Laptop Studio 2
@tonexbot
@tonexbot 4 күн бұрын
I like what macOS offers but Windows is the only OS for me.
@sameerghayya3203
@sameerghayya3203 4 күн бұрын
New Ryzen Chips really underrated. they hit the middle ground between performance and having a cutting edge TSMC node for better battery life. sad that you wouldn't see them in many good laptops with some sacrifices as companies still prefer Intel
@techsamurai11
@techsamurai11 Күн бұрын
I bought an Asus Zenbook for $800 with the AMD 8840 for my daughter. It’s 25% faster than my 2 year old Lenovo AIO Yoga 7 with the 5800H. Twice as fast in Octane as my 4-5 year old Dell XPS 15 inch which cost 2.5 times more. If only the chassis was the new ceraluminum, it’d beat all of them.
@aras_aras_aras_aras
@aras_aras_aras_aras 4 күн бұрын
One might find the Macbook Air the best option, but it is not convincing if its drawbacks are not mentioned: - It has only a 60 Hz IPS screen (this is written in the video, though) with a slow response time so scrolling causes blurry images and text, - it doesn't support more than two monitors including the internal screen, - it has a more limited port selection, - it is not reported how much the performance drops in a sustained load (like when the benchmarks are run multiple times successively), and - it is not possible to upgrade the storage and Apple charges you a lot for this.
@frozencold199
@frozencold199 4 күн бұрын
Just goes to show how much of a advantage apple has on the market, they are still about a year ahead in terms of performance and batterylife and this is ONLY the macbook air... m4 chips drop soon too
@aras_aras_aras_aras
@aras_aras_aras_aras 4 күн бұрын
@@frozencold199 I agree on the efficiency, but it shouldn't be a reason to ignore its drawbacks
@ThomasAndy-qu8dp
@ThomasAndy-qu8dp 4 күн бұрын
Apple use their "brand recognition" to charge people with ridiculous prices. Seriously, they might make great hardware but the price is just a ripoff the moment you want to upgrade the ram and storage.
@levskilevov4888
@levskilevov4888 4 күн бұрын
And remember... you can find a good deal for Intel/AMD laptops with a way bigger screen 16" vs 13.3" Air ( with limited port selection, performance drops). Also there is still laptops with upgradable storage(like Asus with new AMD 370 chip)
@shaun1900
@shaun1900 4 күн бұрын
People complaining about 60HZ on a macbook, generally need to get out more and get a life. Always shouting my windows laptop screen is 120hz - BUT its slower, has a wind turbine fan, its battery life is crap, its build quality is crap, its resale is terrible, its keyboard is mushy, terrible track pad - BUT yeah 120hz.
@tbogdane
@tbogdane 4 күн бұрын
If SD is this good now, I can't imagine what the next versions will be like.
@MangoPickleGaming
@MangoPickleGaming 4 күн бұрын
exactly, snapdragon is not on 3nm yet! it is going to be another nice jump next year.
@Bhargav_Gadekar
@Bhargav_Gadekar 4 күн бұрын
They just lack GPU that's it, if they fixed it in 2nd gen then it'll be dead end for apple
@kubotite9168
@kubotite9168 4 күн бұрын
did you see the 8 gen 4 bench mark..its insane..if that chip using the next gen Oryon than the X Elite one..they seem have the performance to go head to head with M4..it just that windows on ARM holding the chip back
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 4 күн бұрын
Hoping for a better gpu and better emulation. And especially better software support
@MangoPickleGaming
@MangoPickleGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@Bhargav_Gadekar their phone chips are going to come with a much better GPU this year and I think same will be true for next gen of laptop chips.
@jia7833
@jia7833 4 күн бұрын
intel ultra 2 with 32gb memory. good luck with whatever you do on a macbook with 8gb memory.
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 4 күн бұрын
Well, it's still able to finish the most demanding benchmarks with judt 8GB RAM, where Windows just simply throw an error and tell you it's need 16GB RAM to do that.. 😂 and guess what, in average usage the other tasks are lighter, and not demanding that much from the laptop.. (sure it's not healthy for the SSD on long term, but still keeping the price better like any competitor.. the 2020 M1 laptops was still $700 in 2024, alias you was able to sell your $999 laptop for about $600 after 4 years of usage, Snapdragon had models what already dropped $400 price in just 3 weeks because of bad sales, they already discounted it when it wasn't even 1 month old.. and if the brand new is $400 cheaper you will never sell your 1 months old laptop on close to the original price, you must undercut it with at least $500 to sell that 1 months old laptop..)
@ezrareimer
@ezrareimer 4 күн бұрын
My 8gb Macbook has never been a problem, when editing video it plays back heavy 4k timelines perfectly every time
@kevingut5354
@kevingut5354 4 күн бұрын
@@TamasKiss-yk4st The thing people forget: "mac os" is more like "linux" generally "Unix" and windows is just some company that is shit. So installl linux on a pc with low ram will also do the trick.
@kevingut5354
@kevingut5354 4 күн бұрын
@@ezrareimer You have to look at the swap. a mac can use the sdd as ram if there is ram need.
@YasinHasan
@YasinHasan 4 күн бұрын
@@TamasKiss-yk4st nice story bro, that never happened 😂😂
@BigPaco213
@BigPaco213 4 күн бұрын
Sold my macbook pro M1 and got the Macbook Air M3 and im super happy with the speed boost. i use lightroom to edit photos
@fasn279
@fasn279 3 күн бұрын
what ram?
@Burbanana
@Burbanana 4 күн бұрын
Macbook uses 60hz and not an OLED screen so they use much less battery. Most Windows laptops on here use OLED, except for the Surface Laptop.
@Thetechchap
@Thetechchap 4 күн бұрын
that's a good point
@theothernodude3139
@theothernodude3139 4 күн бұрын
OLED consumes less battery compared to LCD, due to the individual pixels that light up vs the entire screen. For the refresh rate, some windows computers (such as the Surface 7) uses a variable refresh rate, which means lower refresh for less demanding tasks and higher refresh for more demanding tasks. Although not a consistent 60hz, you shouldn’t see a significant difference in battery drain when compared to 60hz on lighter to medium based tasks. Lastly, the MacBook air’s battery is generally smaller than Window PCs. Even a MacBook Pro which has MicroLED, variable refresh rate (1-120hz), and bigger battery should and will outperform the Air.
@sandorbence2067
@sandorbence2067 4 күн бұрын
@@theothernodude3139 OLED only consumes less if you watch dark content, on brighter content in needs significantly more power. Plus there's a big efficiency loss if start scaling up the screen size, that always has been a weak point of OLED (and that's why it was mainly used in phone screens just as recently). That said, panel technology has improved a lot and new innovation like dual layer OLED look promising so maybe in the next 2-3 gen you won't have the power penalty. For now you can still count with 2-3 hours less screen time for this laptop class.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 4 күн бұрын
Most of the OLED laptops have a much larger battery to compensate for the OLED. Also, if they have dynamic refresh then 120Hz may even have better battery consumption. For example if you are reading or typing then they should reduce to 24hz or less. The general take for dynamic 120hz is that it does not benefit unless you are playing games all the time, and even then they may run at 60FPS on these iGPUs. I have tested this theory on my MB Pro using dynamic and 60hz doing the same stuff and they are pretty much the same though I do not play games.
@Burbanana
@Burbanana 4 күн бұрын
@@andyH_England Actually most of them dont have a bigger battery to compensate, no idea where you got that from. Plus OLED just draws way more all the time. MB Air 15 uses about 67Wh battery whilst most of these OLED laptops have around 70wh. That far from compensates the power draw. Dynamic refresh isn't a standard and depends on how it is implemented on driver level and manufacturer. Moot point basically.
@TroubleMakerLT
@TroubleMakerLT 4 күн бұрын
ordered the Asus Zenbook S14 with new Intel chip, cant wait to use it, changing my old 2020 Lenovo Legion 5 laptop which cant hold more then 1.5hours on baterry.
@Thetechchap
@Thetechchap 4 күн бұрын
Good choice!
@handlemonium
@handlemonium 4 күн бұрын
Good on you! I'm running drone footage frame extraction (FFMPEG) and photogrammetry (Metashape/RealityCapture) workloads on my laptop so Strix Halo in 6 months with RX 7600-class integrated graphics is what I'm going for.
@mihaelk1938
@mihaelk1938 4 күн бұрын
Why not swap the battery only 🤣
@TroubleMakerLT
@TroubleMakerLT 4 күн бұрын
@@mihaelk1938 im still gonna use it as my main work pc/laptop it will just stay indors and will be connected to the monitor /keyboard. Dont worry im not throwing it away.
@eshendias6833
@eshendias6833 3 күн бұрын
My Dell G3 from 2021 needs to be plugged in all time. Battery capacity is 0%. And I carry this to college everyday.
@russelloutthere
@russelloutthere 4 күн бұрын
Two comments that I don't remember being discussed: 1. Storage speed/performance 2. The fact that the windows devices have touch screens
@khushpreetsingh5007
@khushpreetsingh5007 3 күн бұрын
Niether have anything to do with the processor
@russelloutthere
@russelloutthere 3 күн бұрын
Understood. However given the multiple facets/criteria that Tom used to give different recommendations (including Price and Battery life). Storage speed (eg. Bandwidth through integrated CPU) and Windows devices having touch screens are factors for consideration. Especially as the 60hz screen on the Macbook Air were highlighted.
@EggheadAssasin
@EggheadAssasin 3 күн бұрын
Touchscreens are overrated in laptops. I had one and only time I used it was accidental touches when trying to point out stuff on my screen to people
@nikhilagarwal5295
@nikhilagarwal5295 4 күн бұрын
@11:30 tbf the surface and macbook roughly weigh the same. So I don't think the the size of battery should be given kudos. Same with iPhones, they come with smaller batteries but weigh significantly higher than other phones. It should ideally be weight/minutes rather than mAH/minute.
@CF542
@CF542 Күн бұрын
I bought my daughter the Surface Laptop 7 for school to replace her MacBook Air and she's in love with. It's probably the closest for a direct replacement on design and battery life
@Shag1077
@Shag1077 4 сағат бұрын
To be fair, the Asus Zenbook S16 is pushing a 16" 3K 120Hz OLED
@RidwanGosal
@RidwanGosal 4 күн бұрын
I think few macbook users had realized that Intel and SD had caught up, heck, Intel had caught up one year after M1 but it was on HP business notebook line.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 4 күн бұрын
You are comparing recently released 2024 laptops with 2023 M3 chip, so wait for the M4 which according to leaked benchmarks will be miles clear again, maybe as much as two generations. And of course, what Intel fans forget is that there are the MB Pro 14 (M3 Pro) that destroy these Intels and because they are being discontinued are as cheap or cheaper than many Intel Gen 2 Core Ultras.
@RidwanGosal
@RidwanGosal 3 күн бұрын
No, I was talking about battery life. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.
@housepianist
@housepianist 3 күн бұрын
⁠@@andyH_EnglandI have an M2 MacBook Air and it’s probably more powerful and efficient than these Windows laptops. But admittedly, it’s good to see Intel, Snapdragon, etc, improving the hardware to run Windows more effectively.
@bruceparker3139
@bruceparker3139 4 күн бұрын
Finally we are at the place where we can choose any laptop as per pur liking without worrying about battery or performance. I guess now laptop story is same as mobile phones
@AkashSharma-ef5mq
@AkashSharma-ef5mq 4 күн бұрын
"It's exciting stuff, if you are a nerd", caught me off guard.
@akin242002
@akin242002 3 күн бұрын
Picking between the MacBook Air and the Intel Lunar Lake, I would pick the Intel one. Full X86 software compatibility, good iGPU light 1080p gaming, better port selection, good single core performance, adjustable SSD, and excellent battery life. The only thing I would lose out on would be the stability of MacOs and class leading single core CPU performance.
@auntcleo1997
@auntcleo1997 3 күн бұрын
I've commented on quite a few of these comparison videos so far, based on the Surface Laptop 7 15" as my daily driver. For my use case, it's 2 day battery life. Sleep/wake is instant. No lag, and clicks/transitions are super responsive. I only use one x86 app. Hope Qualcomm stays the course with the X series.
@applehugger
@applehugger Күн бұрын
Yeah, I have the 13" Surface Laptop 7 and it's the best laptop I've ever owned. It's so responsive and snappy. It feels like the Microsoft version of the Macbook Air. I don't game and haven't run into any app compatibility issues. These Qualcomm chips are really something else.
@myyoutubehandle-rr
@myyoutubehandle-rr 3 күн бұрын
The very first factor in most people’s decision making should be the operating system. I’m a windows guy - tried Mac OS for 6 months but didn’t like it, which is disappointing because the Hardware is great. For the Windows laptops, I think the Intel Core Series 2 is the standout. No compatibility issues, great battery life and outstanding single core performance, which I would argue, is more important than multi core for most people purchasing these types of laptops. Great video.
@amirparsanoori77
@amirparsanoori77 4 күн бұрын
I think a balance between battery life and multi-core performance is the best choice so i will go on AMD side👌 But I am truely impressed with the intel performance ❤ i had never expected that ! This shows that we are going to see more neck a neck compatition soon
@lowkeygaming4716
@lowkeygaming4716 4 күн бұрын
I really like your humour in this vid. I didn't expect it since most of your vids are serious. 😂
@Thetechchap
@Thetechchap 4 күн бұрын
No fun was had making this video
@GustavoHenriqueCunhaCalanzani
@GustavoHenriqueCunhaCalanzani Күн бұрын
Just a notice: XeSS and FSR don't use the same scale factor. Since version 1.3, you should use balanced profile to match FSR and DLSS (2.0x factor)
@ohwhatworld5851
@ohwhatworld5851 4 күн бұрын
It would be good if Intal gave us an option to adjust the wattage ourselves. So we could enable a low wattage when on battery, and higher wattage when plugged in and need more performance. I don't know why manufacturers don't allow this.
@infochannel8705
@infochannel8705 4 күн бұрын
@@ohwhatworld5851Manufacturer is the one who control wattage when on battery or plugged in but it's either too conservative or too aggressive. I recommend throttle stop (idk it works with lunar lake yet) but I am using tiger lake (11th gen) and it's a live safer
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 4 күн бұрын
Crikey its 2024 and this should just happen. You do not need to play around with multiple settings on a Mac to get it to be efficient when needed. Ridiculous and I have no idea why this is still acceptable in Windows land.
@fredrickbambino
@fredrickbambino 4 күн бұрын
First gen SD chips are pretty close to Mac figures Give em a few years and imagine how good it’ll get
@FierroSev
@FierroSev Күн бұрын
Picked up the S16 with the 370 and the thing is a beauty. X86 with all day battery and good enough iGPU for some light gaming. Now a days it feels less about the CPU and more about other things like screen size and ram. I had to go for a 16 inch laptop and could not be any more happier with it. Linux support is finally to the point where 6.12 rc2 supports all hardware. Running Endevour on it. Plus it is great to know if I ever need the power, it is there. It would bother me if I went with the lunar lake varient. Finally a quiet x86 laptop, it is amazing.
@sanchigordon6282
@sanchigordon6282 3 күн бұрын
The real asnwer is to use the laptop/computer and OS that you're most productive with - most people are more productive with either macOS or Windows as standard. The actual choice is then within the machines that can run the OS you're most productive with, which model is best suited to what you intend to use it for?
@Chemzborgor
@Chemzborgor Күн бұрын
For me whats surprising is that apple has complete control over their hardware and software, and windows devices are scattered between different choices of componentsand brand but are actually becoming competitive with apples unified system, thats pretty darn good
@VicharB
@VicharB 3 күн бұрын
If I were to go for a new laptop my choice definitely will be AMD 370/375, hopefully able to run ~55W at max when needed. Currently my EliteBook 7840U/32GB is sufficient for me. Looking forward to ThinkPads and Elitebooks 13"/14" options to come in order to consider upgrade, or maybe wait for Zen 6 later.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 4 күн бұрын
Picked up the S14 with 258v and it's an absolutely banger ultrabook with an useful iGPU.
@pneuma23093
@pneuma23093 4 күн бұрын
I’m so happy that the Intel design team has really stepped up their game and proved that x86 isn’t that inefficient compared to arm. Would’ve been exciting to see how Jim Keller’s Royal Core designs would’ve impacted the CPU design landscape. Too bad Pat canned the project. Aren’t the video loop tests mostly dependent on the media engine and display engine rather than on the CPU? I hope their foundry division can get back on par with the market leader in TSMC with the looming geopolitical implications. I’m getting a lunar lake laptop soon. Availability sucks here in India so I don’t know when I can get one.
@madjoubah6549
@madjoubah6549 4 күн бұрын
Intel was lazy as they had zero competition for laptops , now they steped UP a bit late. This lunar lake had to be released in 2021 at least .
@pneuma23093
@pneuma23093 3 күн бұрын
@@madjoubah6549 yeah. But I’m happy with this. The video playback performance and efficiency is everything for me. I can finally ditch the tablet.
@sachafievet3131
@sachafievet3131 4 күн бұрын
I think you have achieved for you the perfect style and balance of technicality and entertainment for a large audience, good job! I really liked the clear graphs/bars
@billymania11
@billymania11 4 күн бұрын
For me the Intel chip is the right choice as I work in the enterprise space where X86 compatibility is key. The other chips are very nice and for the right use-case, will do the job. As I predicted a couple of year back, it was going to be easy for Intel to catch up. Going forward, things become more difficult for all the chip vendors. Architectural breakthroughs will have to be implemented to keep advancing. We'll see whose labs have their ducks in a row.
@lastsonofthewest2444
@lastsonofthewest2444 4 күн бұрын
I use vMIX (Windows only) to stream live events, and it tends to require a dedicated GPU. Normally, all of us have either pre Strix Point Asus ProArt Laptops, or MSI. They are big, heavy machines, that must be plugged in, both for performance, and because they have 1-2 hours of battery life, at reduced performance on battery. We are testing the new ProArt P16 laptops on Strix Point (AI 370). Pretty good, they have Nvidia 4070's. BUT, we all would love to have a few less POUNDS to carry on flights, and really hoping to see some great things from the Intel Core Gen 2 series. Ideally, we would like $2000-2500 USD price points, 64 GB soldered on RAM, and either Nvidia, or Battlemage (next gen Intel Arc) dedicated GPU's. That having been said, sent my daughter off to college with a rather nice Samsung 16" with Snapdragon, which she loves. Got it on sale for a bit more than $1000. Insane value! Oh, great video!
@OzyurtGaming-rp8fz
@OzyurtGaming-rp8fz Сағат бұрын
I wonder if all battery tests were done at 60hz. It would effect the results a lot in my opinion.
@yashpa
@yashpa 3 күн бұрын
meanwhile me with Chromebook plus with 10+ battery life for 300$ on sale 👀
@kartikpintu
@kartikpintu 2 күн бұрын
Ew no
@techsimplified24
@techsimplified24 4 күн бұрын
choosing a Laptop for my needs has been quite a whirlwind for me since the debut of the Snapdragon chip Laptops. But as I learnt more about those, I choose to stay in the traditional x86 Laptops than the ARM due to App compatibility. If I were to use ARM, I would go for the M3 Pro MacBook, and on the other hand, I would be using an AMD Ryzen AI chip for more demanding tasks than going over to Intel's side due to the baked in RAM and whatnot.
@techsamurai11
@techsamurai11 Күн бұрын
It should be noted that Apple's fanless design is an absolute marvel and I do wonder how other manufacturers haven't been able to resolve that with some liquid cooling, machining (new Zenbook) and smart fan/heatsink design. They should have all nailed that by now to the point that you don't hear anything. It's almost as if every time they launch a new model, they are still figuring out how to cool it properly. The CPU is smaller, it uses less power but what about the heat? How will we cool it down? God, I've been working on it for 20 years now and I still don't know what I should do to handle the heat.🙂
@mish6568
@mish6568 3 күн бұрын
I'm using Ryzen since 2017 and I love it. I don't think I will switch it to a different one anytime soon.
@zsombi2
@zsombi2 3 күн бұрын
Great video! I’ve never had a Mac before, but now I have a big decision to make. I’m a basic user with no demanding tasks. I currently have a Lenovo Legion Y520, which is 8 years old, and now I’m considering either the Apple MacBook Air M3 base model or the Asus ZenBook 14 OLED with a 1st gen Intel Core Ultra 7-155H, 16GB RAM, and 1TB storage. Which would you recommend between these two?
@senna476
@senna476 2 күн бұрын
The surface laptop has almost exactly the same battery size as the Macbook.
@drfyzziks1
@drfyzziks1 4 күн бұрын
It has been 0 days since @Thetechchap posted a video with "Macbook KILLER" in the title 😆
@Thetechchap
@Thetechchap 3 күн бұрын
I know but this one is ironic 😅
@abaj006
@abaj006 3 күн бұрын
Lunar lake is good, but too weak when plugged in. On the other hand, the Snapdragon and Ryzen are workstation class when plugged in and get good enough battery life on the go.
@NeagoeNarcis
@NeagoeNarcis 3 күн бұрын
went for the ryzen because the price performance battery was unmatched. sure the new intel looks good, but nowhere to be found 2 weeks ago when I looked for it. for 1000 euros flat the asus vivoboook 16 inch oled 32gb ram and 1tb ssd is really really good.
@8aravindk
@8aravindk 4 күн бұрын
Excellent video. The 14 inch variants of the Ryzen laptops seem like the sweet spot, especially in Canada.
@robertopontelli4902
@robertopontelli4902 Күн бұрын
Chaps, do you think we will see Surfave Pro 11 with Lunar Lake?
@pacattack81
@pacattack81 22 сағат бұрын
One person said a Windows user will never buy a MacBook and a Mac user will never buy a Windows laptop is just wrong. I'd buy a MacBook Air if it had an OLED screen and was 120hz. It seems like we'll be waiting another decade before that happens.
@Nikick83
@Nikick83 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I agree since I want Windows laptop, I'm probably going to the lunar lake ones. Now the question is, which one? I haven't seen too many comparisons of the different brands. Right now I hear a lot about either the zenbook s14, which you have shown or the Lenovo aura. Thoughts?
@BriefNerdOriginal
@BriefNerdOriginal 3 күн бұрын
If you compare processors, then please weigh the duration on the battery capacities. If you compare laptops, then please use some with comparable basic specs such as size. This review is well done, if you do not think.
@fedef77
@fedef77 4 күн бұрын
0:59 the thick chap
@ejirooooooo
@ejirooooooo 9 сағат бұрын
Ayo🤣💔
@malman_is_boiiii
@malman_is_boiiii 4 күн бұрын
The exact Snapdragon redemption I was hoping for ever since their 2021-2022 years.
@nasko235679
@nasko235679 3 күн бұрын
Where I live the zenbook S 16 with 32 gigs of ram and a 2TB SSD costs 100$ more than a 15 inch MacBook air with 16gigs of RAM and a 512SSD. I don't know man, for that amount of money this little storage is insane to me. 512GB is ridiculous in 2024.
@wisdomyaw03
@wisdomyaw03 4 күн бұрын
13:00 How did you get a lower score for the MacBook Air on battery? It's supposed to be the same both on battery and plugged in.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 4 күн бұрын
It is; something went wrong there unless he did back to back tests and ran the battery test after he had not let it cool down. With no fan, scientific tests need to be regulated otherwise you get anomalies like that.
@10hitscombo
@10hitscombo 4 күн бұрын
I didn't expect Intel manage to catch up that fast and get a very close result compare to others processor. With very good battery life and graphic performance of intel Core Ultra series 2, is there still reasons to go for arms snapdragon x elite chip? The snapdragon x elite may have compatibility issue with old x86 software and games. But with current state of all of those processor chips, is there still any reason for software developers to rewrite their software in arm architecture or end user to choose snapdragon x elite with arm architecture? Or we all could probably just back to intel x86 chip?
@10hitscombo
@10hitscombo 3 күн бұрын
As I look more into it. The intel Ram is 4x the M3. But the result is still below M3 in most catagory not to mention the upcoming M4 for mac. I wonder about the battery size comparison.
@highground66
@highground66 3 күн бұрын
I'd do anything just to get off of windows. Hate the direction that that os's been going in lately. Transfered to macos a while ago and can't see myself switching back
@andelson
@andelson 4 күн бұрын
On 9:57 min, are you sure about which device is each one?
@AceAku
@AceAku 4 күн бұрын
I'd love to see your methodology for the game testing considering I've seen tests where the Intel still can't even match a steam deck.
@Thetechchap
@Thetechchap 4 күн бұрын
well, 1080p medium settings with Xess (where applicable) - and ran game benchmarks or used an average from a period of repeatable gameplay. The Arc Xe2 is a big improvement
@AceAku
@AceAku 4 күн бұрын
@@Thetechchap Thanks, appreciate the feedback
@lasue7244
@lasue7244 3 күн бұрын
If you have seen the ETA Prime's video, that was a bunch of baloney. So many mistakes.
@AceAku
@AceAku 3 күн бұрын
@@lasue7244 yeah thats the one I was talking about. I did'nt realise, what do you mean?
@doppavee4309
@doppavee4309 4 күн бұрын
The new Snapdragon chip is a beast, however, the lack of app compatibility is a huge dealbreaker so it's probably better to go with Intel or AMD since they aren't that far behind in performance.
@Shalomrutere
@Shalomrutere 4 күн бұрын
10:04🤔 That was an interesting Easter egg😅
@jadens9569
@jadens9569 4 күн бұрын
Perfect timing, thanks. My laptop is due for an upgrade.
@KitchenPlatform
@KitchenPlatform 4 күн бұрын
11:37 Words of wisdom LOL
@tortysoft
@tortysoft 4 күн бұрын
M4 air 15 inch if it exists please 16Gb. If not, the M3 Air low end and a Mac Mini as a base station M4 external storage. Access with RVNC+sound I think.
@MShahzaibAli4076
@MShahzaibAli4076 4 күн бұрын
There's a mistake at 10:03 in labeling the laptops. Specs of Surface Laptop and MacBook are labeled in the opposite way 😅
@Thetechchap
@Thetechchap 4 күн бұрын
Whoops! 🫠
@duffyrides
@duffyrides 4 күн бұрын
Hey Tech chap. Which windows laptop did you prefer in Davinci resolve ? Intel or AMD ? I’m running the MSI 16 AI Evo released in the beginning of this year and it’s great value but not quite as polished /fast in Davinci as my 2021 MacBook Pro 14 (M1 Pro). Curious on the windows performance on your side in Davinci. Thanks !
@Yakuzichacha
@Yakuzichacha 4 күн бұрын
hey man, great review as always! I have a question, would really appreciate if you could answer that. How bad is the heating issue on the S16 Ryzen AI HX 370? I have heard and read reviews that quite a lot of people have returned their laptops due to overheating. I would be using it only for basic tasks like some Excel modelling, basic chrome stuff, youtube videos and occasionally watch a movie or two. Would that push it so much that it overheats? Thanks in advance :)
@infochannel8705
@infochannel8705 4 күн бұрын
everyday use should be fine, although lots of review says that S16 can only sustain 22-23W when under constant load, that is quite low for AI HX 370, the processor can only sustain 1.8GHz. If i were you I would look for other chassis that can sustain at least 28W during prolonged load. So yes, others returned this laptop because it is unable to handle long multicore task which contradicts this processor purpose.
@Yakuzichacha
@Yakuzichacha 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info, ​@@infochannel8705 😄 only asus is offering this processor in my country right now and that too only in the 16 inch form factor, so I'll maybe wait for others to come out with their laptops too and see how's the heating issue been tackled.
@MichalBrat
@MichalBrat 4 күн бұрын
This is exactly the decision that has cost me a few sleepless nights! 😁 Thanks for the video! BTW, how is the noise level with these? I am leaning the Intel way because based on secondary sources I think I should be able to run it without the fans spinning too much more easily than the AMD chip.
@narutodayo
@narutodayo 3 күн бұрын
I'm just annoyed that there aren't 16" laptops with matte screens that have these new CPUs.
@adeelabbasi7375
@adeelabbasi7375 4 күн бұрын
10:50 laptops touching eachother is not fair. some may have side ways exhaust and middle onces done even get relative fresh air as sides ones, so more heat less efficiency
@infochannel8705
@infochannel8705 4 күн бұрын
What the heck are you talking about, none of them have side exhaust AMD, Intel, SD, Mac doesn't have a fan). You can clearly see all angles in the first 5 minutes of the video. Maybe see first before commenting
@adeelabbasi7375
@adeelabbasi7375 4 күн бұрын
@@infochannel8705 😁😁 okay good then. but any if the middle notebook sucks air from down side. i might suck heated air of left right notebooks? nah? 😁
@infochannel8705
@infochannel8705 4 күн бұрын
@@adeelabbasi7375 ​Yes, it is a real issue FOR A REAL INTENSIVE APPLICATION. So you are missing A BIG point, the battery test is just a youtube playback, if doing that the laptop already overheating then it fails as a laptop, even my phone can stay cool when playing youtube videos, I can 100% say that doing that does nothing to the result.
@zikrikamarulzaman3435
@zikrikamarulzaman3435 3 күн бұрын
Wait how was the battery life on the ultra 7 258v?
@BobJCYR
@BobJCYR 4 күн бұрын
I would agree that Intel is my best bet. But if, here in Canada I look to Asus, they have 2 variants prices at 1300$ and 1800$. It would be helpful to have your guidance. Do I have to spend 40% more for a top version ?
@symbioticbuddy4494
@symbioticbuddy4494 3 күн бұрын
What do you mean by affordable
@BirkAnders
@BirkAnders 4 күн бұрын
@Thetechchap thanks for this awesome comparison! How is the battery life when using teams? I currently have an M1 Pro Macbook Pro 14" that is due for an upgrade. Since I spend most of my workday in MS Teams which drains my battery in 4-5 hours, I was wondering which chip would handle that task the best. Apple M3, SD XE or Intel Core Ultra 2? Thanks
@AssassinsFear
@AssassinsFear 4 күн бұрын
I wonder how long it'll take to get to picometer processor transistors
@sodafanes
@sodafanes 4 күн бұрын
Hi, I think you mixed up the names of the laptops at the 10:00 minutes mark 😂
@Rb_mikky
@Rb_mikky 4 күн бұрын
is M2 air a good choice?
@Peterstarzynskitech
@Peterstarzynskitech 4 күн бұрын
I have heard good things about Snapdragon being good. I am hoping that SD does become great. It's gonna force Intel to be better.
@Vincent13997
@Vincent13997 3 күн бұрын
If it runs MacOS I’ll buy it. It’s not all about hardware. The correct arguments should be chips against chips or Windows against MacOS.
@ahmedidriss7191
@ahmedidriss7191 4 күн бұрын
@ 9:30 You swapped the X-Elite and the Mac
@Garrus-w2h
@Garrus-w2h 4 күн бұрын
The snapdragon laptop here is $500 cheaper than all the others especially if you upgrade the storage yourself. So in Canada snapdragon wins in my opinion.
@Garrus-w2h
@Garrus-w2h 4 күн бұрын
Snapdragon has a bad GPU compared to Intel so I would be interested in the Intel lunar lake if it was dramatically cheaper. It’s basically an i3 in disguise and the pricing is ridiculous so it’s just a pricing problem for Intel. I think the product itself is good.
@Techonsapevole
@Techonsapevole 4 күн бұрын
Please do this test also with Linux
@mikaelbiilmann6826
@mikaelbiilmann6826 3 күн бұрын
Hmmm, the software compatibility issues I hope will be ironed out asap. On the ARM versions I mean. And not looking forward to PCs where you can no longer upgrade the RAM… Btw, the naming conventions on the new Windows laptops are ridiculous!
@ABGTZ
@ABGTZ 3 күн бұрын
Great video mate!
@yellowflash511
@yellowflash511 3 күн бұрын
The high-end Ryzen 300 chips are the only ones which compete with other high-end ARM chips in performance and their battery life is more than good enough.
@AyoHues
@AyoHues 4 күн бұрын
Wait for M4 Air and Pro - absolute game changers. Intel - go for lower powered i7s 256 & 258 for efficiency sweet spot. Strix is the power choice for creator or gaming. Snapdragon the budget choice once the steep discounting kicks in. Now the hardware has finally been sorted, just watch over the next year or so as everyone finally realises how absolutely terrible Windows is. Too bad to be fixed. Too big to be replaced.😂
@celestiallynne690
@celestiallynne690 4 күн бұрын
Considering getting the M3 Air, but you think should wait for the M4?
@vision2003
@vision2003 4 күн бұрын
For me it's the other way around. Apple clearly has the best hardware, now if it only ran Windows, that would be a match made in heaven.
@AyoHues
@AyoHues 4 күн бұрын
@@vision2003 You can run Windows on a Mac using Boot Camp. To find out more about Windows is a terrible OS, research ‘Dev Kit issues for Windows on ARM’ to find out why the gaming community really, really hate Microsoft or watch some of the Dave Cutler interviews on Dave’s Garage. Or for extra fun, try ‘What are the dangers with Microsoft Pluton?’ Follow the breadcrumbs and you’ll get some idea of the myriad issues. Garbage piled on top of garbage basically.
@vision2003
@vision2003 4 күн бұрын
@@AyoHues I know you can, but the experience is not the same and your primary os is still MacOS which I personally dislike. I don't really care about any of that, no offense. I've been using Windows for 30+ years and I like it. Sure, it has it's own set of problems, but generally it does pretty much everything I want it to do, the way I want it to do.
@AyoHues
@AyoHues 4 күн бұрын
@@vision2003 in that case your problems are solved. These new laptops from a hardware point of view are in most respects the equal of a MacBook. Enjoy!
@neodidi
@neodidi 4 күн бұрын
I just got a 12th gen intel laptop... The Lenovo legion slim 7i.. I saw a refurbished deal and had to jump on it.. It was a no brainer. I feel this way cause the new chips are just too expensive now, and somewhat not defined yet.. Like the new intel chips not coming with a dedicated gpu, which I need. Yes the igpu is great, a dGPU will be better. So maybe after another 3-4 years, when the market is a bit more stable, I could get an arrow lake cpu laptop... Or who knows, SD gen 3 cpu laptops.
@andrewchang4915
@andrewchang4915 4 күн бұрын
9:57 the descriptions don't seem to match the laptops?
@nhanNguyen-wo8fy
@nhanNguyen-wo8fy 4 күн бұрын
Ultra 2xx are really expensive as expensive as aple M3 8 core. But much less multicore performance.
@Gentleinvestor001
@Gentleinvestor001 3 күн бұрын
What games were those?
@gunnersph
@gunnersph 4 күн бұрын
Planning to buy the Series 1 Zenbook 14 or MSI Prestige 13 AI Evo...... the Series 2 will likely come next year here in the Philippines.... is it worth the wait?
@infochannel8705
@infochannel8705 4 күн бұрын
Depends on your use cases, series 1 is better for multi-threaded performance because it's high TDP and cores (that can change with Arrow lake), series 2 is very optimized for ultrabook that demands good single thread performance. If battery life and iGPU performance are important, go with series 2, but if you want high performance multihreaded either go with AMD 370 or series 1
@techsamurai11
@techsamurai11 Күн бұрын
The problem with the MacBook is the lack of RAM and it's now becoming an issue with everything Apple. They can't handle browsing like other devices which is 80% of a PC's use. They are already obsolete the moment you buy them. The $1,300 Macbook Air with 8GB has half the memory of a $800 Zenbook I just bought with an OLED screen. I see it with my iPad 9s which have 3GB and can't load many websites. The iPad 10 would have the same issue. You have to hit the iPad Air with the M2 and 8GB of RAM. RAM is the bottleneck.
@darwinlaureles
@darwinlaureles 3 күн бұрын
The nunber times youtubers tried to kill Macbooks, im not even sure now.
@mikasaackerman1290
@mikasaackerman1290 4 күн бұрын
I’m doing ICT for my higher education and I need a laptop which one do you recommend ?I have never used a Mac book before
@infochannel8705
@infochannel8705 4 күн бұрын
If you need specialized engineering software then MacBook and Snapdragon is NOT an option. I use MPLAB IDE and ARM is not compatible. Go with x86, Intel or AMD both are great
@HMiah21
@HMiah21 4 күн бұрын
Would love to see a review of the HP Omnibook Ultra Flip 14 when it comes out!
@TeofilBejan-lg2rt
@TeofilBejan-lg2rt 4 күн бұрын
9:57 bro the MacBook doesn't have the snapdragon x elite chip
@skipper63400
@skipper63400 4 күн бұрын
Great video! By the way people in the comments write about "Intel catching up".... by reducing speed below previous generations... AMD is the sweet spot by far. Still much higher efficiency per wh
@elshanmovsumov5806
@elshanmovsumov5806 4 күн бұрын
Is the laptop with lunar lake processor as snappy as a macbook or the surface laptop 7 X elite?
@林承緯-h4l
@林承緯-h4l 4 күн бұрын
did everyone see that @9:38 the MacBook and Surface laptop are labelled wrong? or was that on purpose😂
@morten1
@morten1 4 күн бұрын
Competition is good
@WeeeAffandi
@WeeeAffandi 3 күн бұрын
I really want snapdragon to succeed because competition is always good for the consumer
@chriswilcox8977
@chriswilcox8977 4 күн бұрын
Is this yet again where Intel ends up being the better choice longer term? No denying for me, I really liked the idea of the SnapDragon laptops - but I do have some software which isn't native and may well never be, so the Intel option now looks to have at least the same performance or more, battery life is amazing, and no compatibility issues - unless Microsoft get the compatibility issue resolved, and software makers get fully onboard with ARM, I think SnapDragon won't ever get mainstream.
@Lutan9u
@Lutan9u 4 күн бұрын
9:58 the surface has an M3
@Xenshen1
@Xenshen1 4 күн бұрын
Love your video. It's looking hard. I've tried Strix point. And Snapdragon. Waiting on Intel ultra 2 258
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