Can anyone really disagree with Joe Biden? | James O’Brien - The Whole Show

[@KenPassey-hd2mc]

One cannot ignore the Israeli attacks on Palestinians taking their land etc. ovver the last 70 odd years. Which has allowed Hamas to thrive.This is their own fault! I have to say the Israeli government is at fault . They. Knew this would happen and actually propagated it. Yes hold Hammas accountable,but let's hold the Israeli government also accountable.

[@samna789]

Santanyahu needs to he held accountable. He funded H@mas. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an inside job. In March 2019, Netanyahu told his Likud party " Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas . This is part of our STRATEGY- to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the West Bank.

[@sistagirl15]

And knew about the attack a year in advance. Egypt (allegedly) warned them. An Israeli military officer even witnessed the 'dry run' so they have every opportunity to prevent it. The question is why they didn't. The Israeli military then killed loads of Israelis (part of the 1200 dead). A female Israeli hostage confirmed seeing a 12 year old Israeli girl killed by indiscriminate firing from 2 Israeli tanks... 😑

[@DevilSurvivor69]

The current government has allowed Hamas to thrive by letting funding and arms to get to them. Netanyahu has admitted as much in the past.

[@deadlydaly74]

Bang on, considering benny was funding hamas for years and never wanted peace ✌️

[@1972dsrai]

What Hamas did was horrific and rightly condemned, but cannot be viewed in a vacuum. As you say Israel has created this situation due to its equally horrific treatment of the Palestinians for decades. Hamas and other groups are doing what anyone in their situation would do, even Jews, many of whom still argue why so many Jews during WW2 seemingly walked to their deaths without a fight.

[@milmark11]

James needs to speak with Norman Finkelstein, he would enlighten him on the intentions of Isreal

[@jmcc2275]

He’s a psychopath…and you listen to him😂

[@عبدالوصي]

​@@jmcc2275because he doesn't conform to you?

[@jackabalas]

@@jmcc2275the venn diagram of Brit and Israeli perfectly demonstrated by a colonial mindset broken beyond all humanity

[@peterbluesman]

@@jmcc2275he’s very well informed to the truth, sounds like you just don’t like the truth.

[@I999-g2s]

@@jmcc2275lol! That’s a psychopathic assessment of a celebrated scholar who is a very highly regarded truth teller.

[@dineomokgosi411]

“How many deaths are you prepared to count in pursuit of that unguaranteed goal…” James, James, James O’Brien!…You never cease to amaze me. You are a true gift to humanity. Thank you so very much for the work you do. We see you and will certainly remember you. 👊🏾 Peace & love, from South Africa. ❤

[@Theo_Isaacs]

I’m really ashamed of my uk government’s stance on Gaza. They won’t get most of the public’s vote in the next general election. Sunak absolutely disgusts me!

[@jmcc2275]

Yeah nothing like exaggeration for effect eh? If they don’t get a majority of the vote it won’t be because of their stance on Gaza. By that time Gaza will have went the way of Covid with regard to how newsworthy it is.

[@dawnatkinson7704]

Starmer is no better sadly.

[@Theo_Isaacs]

@@dawnatkinson7704he’s even worse considering he used to be a human rights advisor

[@PeterLeeRobinson]

The Tories have made Britain a laughing stock and an irrelevant isolated backwater since Brexit.

[@cjhepburn7406]

But will you be equally disgusted at the black stuff…

[@deathsyth27]

Okay i like James and for the most part agree with him but at 46:02 did he say "it's very hard to conclude a war crime has been committed while the conflict is still unfolding". Correct me if im wrong but isn't Putin wanted for war crimes because of Ukraine. He couldn't go to some event a while ago because he would been arrested. That conflict is still on going. If that is the case it just continues the double standard treatments going on in the world. Again maybe I'm wrong and love to learn why this is not the case.

[@zules9644]

you are right he did say that

[@firefox1234ize]

You are right, there is a double standard.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

To be clear, Putin was accused of war crimes after individual events in question and the UN investigation of the incidents agreed it was a war crime The rapes, tortures and massacred of occupied Ukrainian territory Targeting aid and humnaitarian respinse workers trying to help survivors of the floods in the north from destroyed dams... Those events were investigated and ruled war crimes They didn't just automatically declare then war crimes.

[@zlaw691]

I haven't researched this nor am I claiming there isn't a double standard. But would a possible explanation be the subjective lack of provocation? Like, an Israel apologist could say "Israel was directly attacked, people died, they are going in to take out the attackers not destroy Palestine's government". But Russia very obviously was not attacked and very openly indicated their intent was just to straight up take over Ukraine

[@marylename]

Does anyone else has the impression that he was accused somehow of being pro palestine and he's trying to mitigate now a little? Like " I condemn hamas " but " I'll let the people show their true face by themselves"?

[@demejiuk5660]

19:00 well yes she can disagree James and unfortunately you are just dead wrong on this point. Rabin WAS an exception. So much so that he was KILLED for his role in the peace process. There have ALWAYS been since Israel's inception a MOST violent faction on the far right that have resorted to terrorism to get what they wanted. If Rabin hadn't have been an exception, he would have lived and the occupation wouldn't have lasted so long if MOST Israeli leaders were FOR the two state solution.

[@biffrov]

Rabin was an exception but not even he was for an actual Palestinian state, but rather a demilitarised Palestinian "entity" with big parts of land still being under israeli control. The former israeli ambassador for the the UK Mark Regev said this himself just yesterday on Piers Morgan. So James is quite wrong that Israel actually has been a partner for peace in the past. Obviously there are israelis that wants peace, but they have never really sat in government have they?

[@ChicothemonkeyChicothemonkey]

The problem isn't a lack of money food water or land. The problem is that you've given control of these things to a group of greedy psychopaths who care more about maintaining their own power than helping mankind" - Bill Hicks [OC][12

[@reneebarclay8816]

The problem of Apartheid needs to be resolved before there can be a fair and just solution.

[@FilmSpook]

🧡The whole world is seeing the TRUTH about the illegal occupation. There is no turning back. The world is now knowing what Palestinians have been going through for 75+ years. Blessings, Everyone.

[@sistagirl15]

The truth always wins

[@DeniseWilliams-jr5xo]

SPOT ON I've known this for years. My late father told me what Israel have been doing to the Palestinian people. He despised Israel and far too many politicians have turned a blind eye for decades. Finally the world is waking up to the reality they unleashed a monster. This caused the events of 7th October. The Palestinians just cannot take anymore.

[@TheHuxleyAgnostic]

Read Ze'ev Jabotinsky's, The Iron Wall, 1923. It tells you everything about his. Followers of Ze'ev formed the Irgun and Lehi terrorist groups, and founded Likud.

[@jdogdarkness]

I hope your right, but I'm not very optimistic. The powers that have influencd & the mechanism to make change are all still FIRMLY behind Israel's expansionist aims. Sure, we get some general tokenistic rhetoric, but usually even that is said without naming Israel.

[@Freesouls1]

As a palestinian im seeing it all the way, finally the world is waking up. Thank you for your words

[@ralphtoivonen2071]

Netanyahu wants Hamas to exist because it helps makes the two state solution unattainable.

[@ebillyboi]

What utter nonsense

[@mckenzie.latham91]

​@@ebillyboithey literally have Net. on record sauing Hamas was benefitial for their policies to the gazans andwest bank As a terrorist orgnaization is easier to paint as the bad guy... And we know he allowed support and money to be passed to Hamas And sabtoaged the peaceful palisitnian authority to make them look bad so Hamas looked like a better option Harder to run an Aparteid state whencthe leaders of tbe oppressed are peaceful Easier to justify cruelty and oppression when their terrorists His own words, cited by the Israel Times itself.

[@moonmist7854]

Absolutely! Does anyone see that there is only one player at the chess table?

[@jmcc2275]

Is that right? Aye?

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

@@ebillyboiIsrael helped start Hamas. They need them so they can claim there’s no partner for peace as they ethnically cleanse the West Bank with Jewish only settlements

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

26 Kerira's were martyred yesterday. My husband's AUNTS FAMILY. It's devastating. They were innocent civilians

[@jdogdarkness]

I'm sorry for your loss. And I'm sorry for my country's enabling & participation in it. (The US)

[@riccccccardo]

Can we also kick out the USA and uk out of UN for vetoing the Isreal war?

[@jmcc2275]

That would be make what difference exactly?

[@riccccccardo]

@@jmcc2275 restore democracy a little bit.

[@ARolls-dd2zd]

Restart it with no veto powers to any country.

[@cjhepburn7406]

Huh? Who was going to war with Israel?

[@PD-jk5hd]

​@ARolls-dd2zd I absolutely agree. I love the idea of the UN and what it was set up for and what it should serve, but the vetoes by only five member states, just contradicts the fundamental propose and gives more power to those than the other member states, often their use actually stopping peace. Thankfully the UK last used its veto in 1989.

[@omarmetedad7489]

James O Brian, thank you very much for all your efforts . I simply have no words to describe your humanity and truth. From South Africa, we see you and hear you. Please keep going and may you grow from strength to strenght

[@ssjgonas]

international law says opressed people can use any means of resistance i heard. also gaza has been described as the worlds largest concentration camp by isreali historians. so there's that.

[@Swampwizard-f2j]

There is an article online in the Times of Israel detailing how the Netanyahu government funded Hamas to oust the PLO under Yasser Arafat because they were a secular organisation.

[@jmcc2275]

That was news weeks ago. However the Times of Israel is a reasonable source of information. They also mention that when Israel left Gaza 20 odd tears ago they thought they had got rid of the noise around their neck.

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

@@jmcc2275well they moved the Israeli settlers out of Gaza into illegal settlements in the West Bank then turned Gaza into an open air prison. What did they expect, a thank you card?

[@barflytom3273]

@@jmcc2275 you mean "noose" ı assume

[@piccadilly171]

@@barflytom3273Very clever comment!

[@barflytom3273]

@@piccadilly171 thank you.

[@I999-g2s]

Likud party charter: “There shall be no Palestinian sovereignty between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea"

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

Watch the israel fanatics ignore this comment

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

“Since October 7th…” and straight away James has set the parameters of the debate to make israel the victim who responds. Start the clock with israel being attacked and ignore the hundreds of Palestinians killed by israel since the start of the year in the West Bank alone before October 7th…

[@glendasharman9852]

I thought exactly the same. This introduction 'Since October 7th blah blah blah, is so two-faced of the Presenter. He is just covering his backside because 'Since October 7th . . . ' is what the British government, Media and Establishment rules must be said before you can show any sympathy for the Palestinians. It's double-speak in a way and so very very predictable.

[@lucasmoreno5330]

James first watched Star Wars from the moment the Rebels attacked the Death Star and concluded the rebels are the aggressors.

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

@@lucasmoreno5330haha spot on analogy

[@jmcc2275]

@@glendasharman9852you were marching before the 7th then? No? Why not?

[@peterbluesman]

No, not at all. He is towing the allowed line before then digressing to the real truth.

[@SenanAl-biatty-os7rt]

The intentions of Israel from the start was obvious but for those supporting Israel and those with historical amnesia.

[@helenab7390]

Also netanyahu showed the map of an israel without Gaza....why is the west just waking up now?....

[@sistagirl15]

You are forgetting, you are part of 'the darkness'. Perhaps tats why you don't understand the map 🙄

[@helenab7390]

@@sistagirl15you may be right IFI carry on watching Israel's cruel and inhumane,barbaric treatment of Palestinians I think I will go so far into a black hole I wont get out of it 🙄

[@jmcc2275]

Is the le el of stupidity we are sinking to?

[@ramiramone]

« How do you make peace with someone who doesn’t want peace? » is the question every single Palestinian is asking from the beginning of this tragedy.

[@SeanCrosser]

Crazy that they wouldn't want to make nice with the people who stole their land and oppressed them for the past 70-odd year.

[@lucasmoreno5330]

What James says here is absolutly top draw: "I won't be quietened, I won't be silenced, I won't stop talking about things because it can be discomforting and I won't stop talking about what the current Israeli government is doing, howevermany text messages I get calling me a Jew hater or Antisemitic. As I won't moderate my condemnation of what Hamas has done".

[@jmcc2275]

James is trying to boost his views ,no more,no less. He also knows very little about about what he’s talking about despite researchers whispering into his ear.

[@jeremygough1387]

@@jmcc2275 Don't view it then.

[@vinylrulesok8470]

​@jmcc2275 Jesus, what a cynical view. Whilst I don't agree with everything that jOB says I do find him on the whole balanced and bases what he says on facts not conjecture. In a country where the news media is right wing and props up a right wing goverment, it's refreshing to hear balanced and researched commentary.

[@I999-g2s]

The ‘so called’ peace deal NEVER included Israel giving up settlements in Palestine, NEVER included a right of return for Palestinian refugees and NEVER included the Palestinians getting East Jerusalem as their capital (the bit that includes their Al-Aqsa mosque). And even then, Israel assassinated Rabin for daring to suggest that Israel wouldn’t have all the land for themselves, from the river to the sea.

[@TheAymsa]

I’m still waiting for you James to give a true historical account as to what’s been happening to the Palestinians since 1948. History did not just start on October 7th. At least acknowledge the occupation the apartheid and think about what you’ll do if you’d been subjected to that!

[@mohammedhussain3826]

James o brian spot on , hes the only one along with sangeetha that is spot on ! On lbc

[@deadlydaly74]

Sangeetha is awesome. Takes no prisoners 😊

[@Nick-kb6jd]

Don't forget Nick Abbot

[@jmcc2275]

Imam tell you that?

[@jackabalas]

@@jmcc2275nah it’s a pretty kosher opinion in the civilised world if you ask your average Joel

[@Nick-kb6jd]

@@jmcc2275 Ever try looking at things outwith the bubble of religous bigotry?

[@aphiaraghe6073]

What about what's happening to Palestinians in West Bank and the rest of the country?

[@ninsemor]

Hello from Denmark, Thanks for your honest report. We or many of us think the same here.

[@jmcc2275]

Yeah right. 😂

[@shytuncer]

James you say that she shouldnt blame Isrealis with the first caller but u dont get 20 years plus of apartheid if they didnt keep governments that have this policy

[@Anasibnmendes]

October 7th? How about 1948? How about the 75 years of occupation? No Muslim agrees with killing civilians but let’s not have a double standard or forget history. Life didn’t start on oct 7th.

[@Lorenzo-ew6so]

People talk about Oct. the 6th but nobody talks about the continuous bombing that was taking place before Oct. 6th. And the otrosities that were happening on a regular basis to the Palistinians these murders were never filmed because Palistinians were viewed as low class.

[@lucasmoreno5330]

James opening monologue is needed for him to keep his job.

[@Dave0093]

🎯

[@Mumraaa]

I hope you're right🕊️

[@Theo_Isaacs]

All western media journalists and news presenters are intimidated and there’s no more freedom of speech

[@lucasmoreno5330]

​@@Mumraaa he's got family and a mortgage to pay. It's necessary that he protects himself. Somany presenters in the US have been cancelled for not doing so.

[@Daniel-zs1eq]

You can imagine the kind of a thin line Mr O'brien is walking on not to upset those that feeds him..that's courage and wisdom right there..

[@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273]

" I thought all my life that Israel had control over gaza. Today, I realize Israel has control over almost all countries except Gaza" (anonymous in palestine)

[@johnmatthews7552]

When will the UK get off the f***ing fence?

[@Unchainedboar]

i live in Canada and love this show, My Grandpa who just died this year was from Plymouth, he came to Canada after WW2 and he always told me stories of England.

[@samna789]

Plymouth...Hope you get to visit one day. 😊

[@bunclodyboy8968]

if you kick your dog every day, when the dog bites you, you cant blame the dog, thats not justifying anything, its common sense. for james o brien or anyone else , to try and twist that into theyre own meaning in order to gain viewers is in itself, disgusting. we all know what happened on that date, there was thousands of dates before that one when palistinians were slaughtered, no one remembers them

[@masseffectist]

At a time where we are so emotional on all sides, myself included, I appreciate and respect that you James are trying to keep us factual. I'm trying hard to remain factual but it's hard not to given the images we are seeing. I hope a two state solution is possible. As a father and Muslim it's just so hard to see so many children some younger than my son die needlessly on both sides.

[@theysaidwekant]

Sorry James but only a coloniser can say that October 7th was the worst thing that ever happened to mankind. You have no idea what apartheid or oppression feels like. Must be nice up there on your pedestal. From a South African.

[@Me-tb8rs]

You are absolutely right.

[@LeMuseHere]

1000 percent absolutely correct.

[@Bushwacker-mb6hw]

James is so misinformed

[@charlesreid1311]

James, consider the expertise of the state of Israel propagandists would you care to apologize to Jeremy Corbyn?

[@SuzanneO707]

The only way to truly know a person is to argue with them. For when they argue in full swing, then they reveal their true character. Anne Frank.

[@jmcc2275]

She’s dead.

[@SuzanneO707]

@@jmcc2275 Yes, along with many, many more children because of uncontrolled hate, injustice & war.

[@mstables3185]

​@@jmcc2275 If you've nothing worth listening to, keep quiet.

[@garysantos7053]

The Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine adopted by the General Assembly Since 1976 UN. General Assembly (77th sess.: 2022-2023) "The Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine is a general assembly resolution that has come up every single year for decades. It calls for that two-state settlement on the June 1967 border, and it calls for a peaceful settlement on the basis of international law." "Looking at the voting record every single year, it's the whole world, including the state of Palestine on one side supporting a two-state settlement on the basis of international law and on the other side opposing it's the United States and Israel." - Norman Finkelstein

[@tamarasaadeh4907]

@garysantos7053 thank you for this, I was planning to look this up after watching Norman on piers yesterday. This is very important information to know considering a lot of people argue that the Palestinians never wanted a two state solution which just isn't true!

[@1972dsrai]

The world is also told by the Israelis that it was the PA that failed to accept the deal when the Israelis were never going to adhere to any of it. The PA knew the goal posts would be shifted snd they’d end up with vastly less territory than was being offered and Netanyahu is on record as having said that. Allowing over 800k illegal settlers in the west bank is another clear indicator of Israels true intentions.

[@jmcc2275]

Who lost the war in 1967? Nasser said he was going to destroy Israel,a long procession of them have said that, and proceeded to lose the land in Egypt and Jordan. They then started another war to get land back and lost again. By the way ,the UN means absolutely nothing these days ,just like the psychopath Finkelstein .

[@cjhepburn7406]

Interesting…

[@anniecameron6794]

Why not vote reform wee have nothing to lose thats how bad politics is in great Britain

[@samna789]

Why must the Palestinians pay with their lives and why must they suffer from the generational trauma the jewish community has faced at the hands of the Europeans for centuries?

[@SeanCrosser]

How the messaging has changed, 3 weeks later, huh? Hard to not read what Israel's stance on Gazans are as what it was if they've been doing it for thee past 75 years

[@TheTwinn]

A more in-depth conversation with the caller at 24:00 would have been interesting. They both misunderstood each others points and James kinda steam rolled over him, but he sounded like a person taken in by propaganda and a more nuanced discussion could have probably helped him as well as show the audience how propaganda works within Israel. Missed chance.

[@miked5814]

So they're abhorrent terrorists for chanting from the river to the see but Israel is a shining beacon for saying the exact same thing? Please explain how that works please. Seriously. I really, really want to NOT see the Israelis as the terrorists here, so can someone please help me? Because I can't see it.

[@McKluskie]

You can't justify the Hamas attacks you can only try to understand where they came from, those that do end up looking Anti Semitic. However I don't think you can say the same abaout Israel and how it's behaving you can certainly understand their goal or at least one of their goals to remove Hamas but let's face it this isn't their real goal their real goal is to utterly destroy what is left of Palestine and take over the land that has been obvious for decades and it's been completely ignored.

[@pluto5746]

James I have noticed that you have also joined pierce Morgan to his famous condemnation of 7th of October.Slogan.

[@TheDevnul]

Are they still holding hostages?

[@SeanCrosser]

Ask the bombed rubble of the occupied territories.

[@yt_Ajay_]

21:05 Jesus Christ, James.. I don't know if this is just out of an effort to be impartial, but it might just be the worst thing I've ever heard him say

[@caroletaylor7592]

The attack that happened in Israel was horrendous but it is an insult to recent conflicts where millions of civilians have been slaughtered!!! To say it’s the worst in recent history!!! Thank you for speaking out about GAZA

[@jazzip]

James why are you saying “that part of the world“? It’s Palestine! You saying that, fuels those saying Palestine doesn’t exist. Bibi’s map doesn’t only wipe out Jordan it wipes out Palestine.

[@BillY-tw8xc]

Sorry James you're wrong. The evidence of this has been going on for decades not just the recent conflict

[@tarpara]

James really need to interview Ilan Pappé. Two state solution is dead

[@CherryBlossom13579]

It was never alive!

[@cjhepburn7406]

It’s been a while since 7/10…is Pape unreachable or something…?

[@pompelmostique]

James: "well, what's water vapor made of then?" Caller: "well, mostly nitrogen obviously" Obviously? 😂 H2O turns into Nitrogen, mate?

[@sagittariusa2201]

To the israeli caller. All you see is my people crying. My Palestinian people cry everyday. Why is that?

[@cjhepburn7406]

What caller cried?

[@Wefdog85]

From the river to sea is found in the likud party charter of 1977.

[@cjhepburn7406]

Interesting. What is Likud? Why didn’t you give it a capital letter?

[@Wefdog85]

@@cjhepburn7406 the Likud party is the current far right nationalist government of Israel which is led by Benjamin Netanyahu. My apologies that I didn't originally put a capital L

[@rm809]

Why was he so rude to the Palestinian woman literally on the verge of tears?

[@cjhepburn7406]

What was her name?

[@Bushwacker-mb6hw]

Because he’s a C

[@matzotv4047]

That call from Tel Aviv was absolutely fascinating....he was trying so hard not to the quiet part loud.

[@andrewtim1989]

If you find "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" offensive, you are inferring something from it that isn't in the text or the intention of those chanting it, I honestly thought James would get this.

[@IMelkor42]

I disagree with him saying that without Israel, there would be no safe place in the world for Jews... He's been extremely bad on this...

[@0xkillswitch]

2:13:21 everything we build comes from materials we took out of the earth. So we're not actually adding weight. Even the mass that makes up your body was around the surface of the planet since it's creation.

[@kleohyman1674]

All of the Palestinians of gaza have been punished. Their whole city has been demolished, they have been forced from their homes, they are all suffering in one way or another. Then you have the diseases which people are contracting because of the war on gaza. Most people you see are in pain of losing someone they know or family. The conditions they are now living in, is this not punishment?

[@flamboyentpromotions3471]

Rabin was not gonna let them have a state, James is equivocating and censoring the 1st caller

[@bmxney3143]

I’m pro-Palestinian can u elaborate on what u mean by that?

[@flamboyentpromotions3471]

@@bmxney3143 which part? Rabin said he wasn't goin to let the Palestinians have a fully autonomous state

[@bmxney3143]

@@flamboyentpromotions3471 no I was just under the impression that he wanted them to have a state and was assassinated for it.

[@flamboyentpromotions3471]

@@bmxney3143 from what i understand he wanted a semi-autonomous state, with no army where Israel controlled the security an other things. The settlers didnt want any peace process at all thats why they killed him they wanted all of the land for themselves. so to give Rabin credit he was trying to do something just not a full state.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Rabin was the cloeset leader to getting them either a legtimate state or an actually fair deal

[@lucasmoreno5330]

Last month the US withdrew a batch of M-16 rifle exports to Israel after Ben-Gvir had handed out the previous batch to Settlers in the West Bank, which saw increased Palestinian deaths.

[@irnesvelic7467]

The greater Israel is not only taking big parts of Jordan, but also from Egpyt,Lebanon, Syria and even Saudi Arabia.

[@cjhepburn7406]

What!?!

[@MrMorokiatt]

The question is, what right does Israel have to dictate the future of Palestinians? They are doing what they don't want Palestinians doing to them.

[@MaskSwabe]

26:34 the Oslo Accord didn't give Palestinians a state. It was a 5 year period in which an agreement is suppsoed to be made. During that time Israel kept building settlements.

[@cjhepburn7406]

Didn’t Palestinians refuse the state that was offered?

[@zakshakey4686]

@12:40/2:06, Me - with a physics degree and retired physics teacher, having taught this to it's death up to A-Level: "I don't know WHAT to think anymore!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭"

[@DennisMoore664]

I appreciate James' recognition that both the brutal and disgusting attack on October 7 as well as the horrific retaliation by the IDF are both bad and should both be condemned. Shame more people who have picked a side and at best say "yes, but" don't seem able to do the same. The victims are the people who want nothing more than to live in peace with everyone else.

[@mohammedsaleh7]

I understand your position but I feel like it's devoid of context. Most coverage on at least mainstream sources tend to treat it as a situation that started on 7th October 2023. That treats the attack as entirely senseless. I'm in no way condoning the attack of civilians on either side, Hamas are despicable for having done so and IDF equally so. It is a moral right as humans to seek freedom. In the case of the Palestinian people, it is a fight to free themselves from apartheid. You may feel that's an unfair/anti-semitic designation but it is a well recognised truth. Many NGOs including the likes of Amnesty international have called Israel an apartheid state. Even in the wake of post apartheid South Africa, a US diplomat asked Nelson Mandela to condemn Yasser Arafat, Mandela refused and said Arafat and the Palestinians were brothers in arms fighting the same fight. A couple of other notes to share about the comparison between apartheid South Africa and the situation between Israel and Palestine. While Mandela was imprisoned, he was asked to condemn the violence undertaken by the ANC in the fight against oppression, both times he refused. The reason I bring up the violence in that aspect is that it is the only means to gain freedom from oppressors. Again I will reiterate, civilians should not be the target and Hamas as despicable for doing so. Nevertheless, the violence by the ANC was equally instrumental in the liberation of black people in apartheid South Africa. In fact, did you know that during the struggle for freedom in apartheid South Africa, it was Yasser Arafat and the PLO that helped in their fight, mainly by sending munitions to aid them. Meanwhile Israel was supporting the Boers in South Africa to maintain their system of apartheid. I know I've rambled a bit but I do hope you did read through it all and I wasn't too unintelligible. I think you are a reasonable person and that's why I wanted to respectfully disagree with your position of relative neutrality.

[@magcarta]

hey, James, what is the name of the Israeli child murdered by Hamas on October 7, 2023? You keep talking about this child as if they were real

[@ralphtoivonen2071]

Maybe only a one state solution is the only solution where everyone has equal rights.

[@I999-g2s]

"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas .... This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank." Benjamin Netanyahu Israeli Prime Minister - Mach 2019

[@mosaleh6787]

And by the way ha mas came to existence late 1989?? What was your excuse prior to that?! Just do yourself a favor and read some history. Who killed Rabin and why!!?

[@martinquinn9007]

She.sounds like same that was used against then in 1930 Germany

[@TheLucanicLord]

1:11:00 Next time the Vordmeiser's on, get her to explain what exponential means.

[@revelation2916]

A Two state solution was never coming. Wake up, James. There can only be one non-racial, multi-faith, democratic Palestine - As it was before 1948. There's no place for the abomination of ethno-Zionist nationalism in the holy land or anywhere else on the planet. Although I hear Antarctica is a genuine "Land without a people for a people without a land". They can all love Rabin in a free and democratic Palestine. We'll put up a statue of him alongside Nelson Mandela, MLK and Malcolm X. Look up Revelation 2:9 & 3:9 in the holy Bible and stop being the thinking man's Piers Morgan.

[@ramsaysg4251]

Ronnie: "how can you make peace with someone who doesn't want peace?" James O'Brien: "Well, yitzhak rabin tried." Ronnie: "and what happened?" James O'Brien: "He got assassinated by an Israeli!" Ronnie: "But hang on...exactly." Ronnie gets his coat...🤣

[@1972dsrai]

The man who killed Rabin is seen as a hero to many right wingers in Israel including certain members of Netanyahus coalition party. One of them has a picture of the guy in his home and this same cabinet member was regarded as a Jewish terrorist by the Israeli security services before he went into politics. Forgotten his name, but he lives in one of those illegal settlements.

[@inqui5ition]

@@1972dsrai Itamar Ben-Gvir

[@linkuptvr7240]

Yitzhak Rabin made the breaking bones policy, this entailed BREAKING THE BONES OF CHILDREN that protested in order to deter them from doing it. I mean yaaaay our hero model of peace Rabin…

[@DennisMoore664]

There are many examples from many conflicts of leaders and common people alike who try to make peace with the opposition and are killed by their own people.

[@MercurialRed9]

James, PLEASE let people finish speaking. You constantly talk over them, cutting them off mid-sentence, and even telling what they can and can’t say. This topic is in desperate need of full, fair debates so bullying people brave enough to call in is the last thing it needs.

[@za.307]

Which bits?... I can guess which caller you're on about from your tone though. I think it says alot we can work out which caller and your probable position.

[@MercurialRed9]

Don’t know what you’re talking about, but to be clear I get annoyed when James talks over guests and callers regardless of the topic. Especially given that he gets pretty shirty when callers talk over him.🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ski-east]

I almost thought that this was a Monty Python episode when the caller said ‘No it’s not’

[@LumpySpaceDood]

Even Putin today expressed concerns for Israel's behaviour

[@jmcc2275]

and?

[@cjhepburn7406]

Oh Really…

[@cjhepburn7406]

Coz Putin never fights over land…

[@chatham43]

...no surprise there Einstein..😂

[@chatham43]

...no surprise there Einstein..😂

[@DerekIngram-u4e]

Well said James,

[@ChicothemonkeyChicothemonkey]

We need more of james to call them. Out

[@IsaDCTV]

At some point in his life O'Brien will see things differently about Hamas ... as he becomes more politically educated.

[@demejiuk5660]

James saying Rabin was FOR a two state solution is true while still stating that Israel have wanted the land since the beginning. Of course they have. Become some were willing to sacrifice some of the land for peace doesn't make it any less true that theie ideal scenario is as you SAID. Greater Israel. Except even the American insiders in the peace process admitted that it was and never will be fine for America to act as a broker WHILE supplying Israel arms. It's not s neutral position so how can they broker. One guy on Clinton's team reflected on the fact that Clinton's whole team for the talks were Jewish. It's on an amazing Netflix documentary.

[@shrekswife2164]

Dear James I hope you extend your investigations to countries that are still under colonial rule around the world. In the Pacific, West Papua, and Tahiti and her islands to start with.

[@cjhepburn7406]

We live in hope…

[@Nilaab0]

Thanks for being the voice of reason.

[@ChicothemonkeyChicothemonkey]

We need more james .hes not baise and correct the narrative

[@revdrjack14]

Just note James that the slogan “from the river to the sea” is not a solely Palestinian slogan unless you consider the Hebrews of the Old Testament were Palestinians. We can only discuss the problem bearing in mind the complexities. Palestinians are also Semites. People cannot play the Hamas card either which is like saying that the IRA were being shielded by nationalists who were, therefore just as guilty. It seems c,ear that revenge is the motive of the current government. I also think that the Zionist argument, especially in USA is bolstered by a certain section of the evangelicals. They don’t understand the Bible they quote. Thanks for provoking us to think.

[@jmcc2275]

🥱 don’t Hamas use it to describe their desire to destroy Israel?

[@inqui5ition]

@@jmcc2275 The Likud charter calls for one nation from the river to the sea? Is that a blatant call for Palestinian extermination?

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

@@jmcc2275nope. Even Hamas accepted the Arab Peace Initiative that proposed two states at peace with each other, Israel rejected it time and time again

[@Bushwacker-mb6hw]

Why is this even news ?

[@tadeuszburkiewicz8655]

The Israeli Government represents the Israeli Goernment not the majority of Israelis. We know the Israeli government comprises of very right wing people like never before .. A two state solution has been thwarted since a two state solution was proposed in the 1960's which included the PLA & Saudi Arabia & a map drawn . I was 17yr old !

[@Fay-i2s]

Yesterday Norman finklestien said the most recent poll in Isreal suggests 60% of population of Isreal think the government isn’t going far enough in the destruction of Gaza. And that it’s unlikely they want a two state solution. They elected Netanyahu. They believe in his policies

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

The Israeli government was voted into power by the majority of Israelis. The leftists who support a two state solution got votes you could count on one hand…

[@louieberg2942]

That part did confuse me a little as well. It'd be similar to saying that Brits support the Rwanda Scheme, because the current Conservative government is doing it.

[@sensemusicofficial]

Heres some irony for you .. the UK ambassador to Israel who stated the 2 state solution is dead and should not be talked about anymore .. was the former Minister for Settlers.. source: She served as Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Diaspora Affairs, Minister of Settlement Affairs

[@jase1158]

why do you think there has been an occupation for 75+ years

[@0xkillswitch]

1:44:00 steam is what you get when you have a high enough density of water vapor, such that it doesn't immediately get absorbed and dispersed into the air.

[@jujitsujew23]

Water vapor is a gas…this isn’t complicated. Vapor and steam are only differentiated by temperature

[@Fay-i2s]

Actually it is punishment. Under international law. Its collective punishment

[@sensemusicofficial]

Hey James , its also very important to remember that that "greater israel" speech was made BEFORE "oct 7th™"

[@Comisionado]

It was nice having a caller from Tel Aviv, shows why someone like Netanyahu is still in power. James did well to dismantle his points.

[@genesis1765]

There is no chance with a right wing government full of right wingers. Then you have Netanyahu who is full of so much hatred, remembering is brother who died in Entebbe. This I'm afraid like James says here will go all the way with no Gaza left.

[@samsunnahar9175]

THANKS A LOT, SIR!!

[@0xkillswitch]

1:34:04 I did rewind, and he did take issue with the word displace. They're cultists.

[@SaniyatRaihan]

James, you should talk to Norman Finkelstein to get info that you don’t know.

[@mlandvobhembe7614]

Spot on , James O'Brien sir , I'm so happy with your reporting , you're the real meaning of "unbiased news" I found myself correcting myself from listening to you speak to the first 2 callers