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Can BAYONETS fight against KATANA?

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Жыл бұрын

#bayonet #army #kenjutsu

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@TheBlakReaper
@TheBlakReaper Жыл бұрын
I quickly skimmed through the comments section and didn't notice anyone mention anything about half sword techniques, but as you can see here, if you imagine his rifle was a European bastard sword, you can see that half-swording can be a very effective method of blocking and attacking in close quarters, and during the bind.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
It is a shame that soete waza is banned in kendo, it looks effective. Here is Kondo sensei using it against Toda sensei in an exhibition match kzbin.info/www/bejne/fprUaXZspK-tircm20s
@TheBlakReaper
@TheBlakReaper Жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1, I watched the video and the techniques demonstrated were impressive. I actually didn't know that half sword techniques were illegal in Kendo. Thank you for sharing.
@willw1980
@willw1980 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBlakReaper Just from watching this video, it seems like the kendo person is being held back by rules of sport while the other person was trained for war and probably not held back by any such rules other than "don't hurt the opponent too badly".
@giftzwerg7345
@giftzwerg7345 Жыл бұрын
i wonder how a bajonet compares to it, like it looksm utch more brutal, tho i guess a sword is lighter and you usually do it against armour wher pressision is more important than pure agession and power
@boxed_fear5558
@boxed_fear5558 Жыл бұрын
First... Rifles is not made to withstand battering... Second... If you lose your hands that hold the aim grip section... You're dead man... Unlike sword, they have hand protector that hindering sliding blades slicing hands. It's a losing fight from the start.... Just need to aim at the hands that holding aiming grip section if you had a chance or the othe part of the arms...
@quintessenceSL
@quintessenceSL Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best matches you've done. Like watching a boxer and a slugger go at it; similar but different skillsets, and seeing who could press their advantage. Very satisfying.
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
A bayonet completes a rifle.
@BernasLL
@BernasLL Жыл бұрын
Flechette rifles are the ultimate weapon, then.
@user-yc8od7in6c
@user-yc8od7in6c Жыл бұрын
Rifle completes bayonet*
@Roejwhdoekdjsowj139
@Roejwhdoekdjsowj139 Жыл бұрын
@@user-yc8od7in6c This is not a school Dont tell someone to be fancy
@narcoticman7310
@narcoticman7310 Жыл бұрын
Me with a carabiner rifle mounted bayonet: **Locks and load** *"Prepare to die"*
@kyowamushi5119
@kyowamushi5119 Жыл бұрын
When engagements happen at 200-500 meters, A bayonet is just a nuisance to carry
@TenchiBushi
@TenchiBushi Жыл бұрын
I love this alot! As a former infantry soldier (US Army Captain), I'd like to see this done again with the rifleman using jukendo rifle. The tip is rounded like a shinai so head shots can be performed. The length of the jukendo is similar to rifles used in the Boshin war. That would be interesting to see.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that you have seen it, but just incase: (from ww2) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKeac3SepLqAeJo (a bit more recent) kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2LHl3tvbZeCsM0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2etoKl5bMqKqJYm40s
@TenchiBushi
@TenchiBushi Жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1 I've seen lot's of WW2 films of combatives but all of them were OSS and US Coast Guard.
@GendanoGungakusha
@GendanoGungakusha Жыл бұрын
That was a resemblance from type 22 Murata (but dumb jukendo gun version)
@KoishiVibin
@KoishiVibin Жыл бұрын
I wonder how this would go with armor enabled? Impacts to the painted zone do not count. I believe it would be possible to parry an attack into the armor, and deflect it, while closing into position. Another thing I noticed is just how sturdy the defense is. Because of the spread out hand position, the rotational site is counterweighted at all times.
@user-gg5dk9jl5s
@user-gg5dk9jl5s Жыл бұрын
MCMAP ?
@WalruswithTaste
@WalruswithTaste Жыл бұрын
Great video! In the future, it would be great to see a match with an older longer rifle. Something like a Springfield Rifle from WW2 or even a Chassepot from the Boshin War, guns with bayonets that would've went up against Katanas.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
Here you go! (from ww2) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKeac3SepLqAeJo (a bit more recent) kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2LHl3tvbZeCsM0
@CaitlynWongSkate
@CaitlynWongSkate Жыл бұрын
Using bayonets are an actual martial art in Japan that’s probably why
@longassdick
@longassdick Жыл бұрын
@@CaitlynWongSkate the Marine Corps still teaches bayonet techniques as well
@_blood_moon_proto_1500
@_blood_moon_proto_1500 Жыл бұрын
@@longassdick most militaries do, but the bayonets themselves are more ceremonial these days
@wahtx7717
@wahtx7717 Жыл бұрын
The m1903 was already the standard rifle of the US army since since WW1
@randallrobertson7190
@randallrobertson7190 Жыл бұрын
K2 fighters techniques reminded me of how halberd wielders used their weapons. Quick inside fighting, close quickly and deal damage. Never thought A distance weapon like A rifle would stand A chance against A Katana. Looks like the ROK army is still teaching the "riddle of the steel" good!
@Epic-pf8od
@Epic-pf8od Жыл бұрын
A bayonet makes a rifle a short spear, and short spears are incredibly effective. Lindybeige did a very good video on this.
@Chroma710
@Chroma710 Жыл бұрын
Katanas are really short. They're around 85cms in blade length. A rifle could be as long as 100cm without including the bayonet.
@ronaldrobertson2332
@ronaldrobertson2332 Жыл бұрын
"Spirit of the Bayonet" the old World War II U.S. Army manual calls it.
@williamthehuntsman
@williamthehuntsman Жыл бұрын
@@Epic-pf8od I would call it more of a Naginata. As a bayonet equipped rifle has the ability to cut and thrust. But you are correct
@saintkoro
@saintkoro Жыл бұрын
@@Chroma710 Yeap but the advantage of the katana is that you hold it from the base of the blade, so your arms give it extra range. Whereas most rifles have a stock behind the handle, which rests on your forearm and does'nt contribute to the range of the weapon (although that's not its function, but to stabilize the shot).
@Blundabus1337
@Blundabus1337 Жыл бұрын
1:03 I love how hes doing the 'Army Men' toy pose for those bayonette guys.
@TheJhouston
@TheJhouston Жыл бұрын
Impressive! this is not a match-up I ever expected to see, but that is what makes this channel so awesome. I suppose a fight like this has happened at some point in history.
@dramalexi
@dramalexi Жыл бұрын
For a very long period, rifles weren't as effective as they are today. So yeah battles like these happened quite a lot.
@TheJhouston
@TheJhouston Жыл бұрын
@@dramalexi definitely during the Pike and Shot and musket times. I did mean during more modern conflicts like WWI and later, but that's on me for not specifying.
@dramalexi
@dramalexi Жыл бұрын
​@@TheJhouston I've read two books about the battles between America and France vs. Germany in WW1. So far noone mentioned bringing a sword into the trench. But of course there will be always some sort of a maniac.
@penttikoivuniemi2146
@penttikoivuniemi2146 Жыл бұрын
@@dramalexi The Japanese did bring swords to WWII, so this type of matchup likely happened then.
@shoyupacket5572
@shoyupacket5572 Жыл бұрын
@@penttikoivuniemi2146 it definitely happened in the Pacific during WWII but also a lot during the Napoleon wars with sabers vs. bayonet and even wars before that period. It happened a lot more than people would probably expect.
@slimetank394
@slimetank394 Жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder how would longer rifle with bayonet do against swords. I'm not a gun expert but i imagine ww1 or ww2 rifle would have comparable weight with longer profile and they were issued with bayonet for trench warfare. You would have similar handling but with greater reach i think, which might nullify the sword's reach advantage
@quintessenceSL
@quintessenceSL Жыл бұрын
The rifle (specifically the M1) is much, much heavier and the weight balance is more awkward the longer you get. Reach gives you first strike advantage but if you miss, you have 10lb coming at your face.
@johncartwright8154
@johncartwright8154 Жыл бұрын
In WW1 the rifle and bayonet were found to be unwieldy in the close combat of trench raids. Troops on both sides improvised brutal maces made with materials to hand such as grenade cases, wooden stakes wrapped with barbed wires or stuck with nails, sharpened trenching spades. The British bayonet was 55cm long on a 11ocm Lee Enfield. French bayonets were even longer! Jūkendō, bayonet fighting with a practice weapon similar to a shinai is experiencing a revival in Japan I believe.
@kris4786
@kris4786 Жыл бұрын
Originally bayonet tactics were spear tactics because the old black powder rifles you can only fire once or twice before you engage in close combat. If you look at world war 1 and world war II bayonets they're really long over 16 inch blades some even look like short swords. In world war 1 and 2 this exact scenario was still happening infantry men with bayonets against officers with long swords or sabers. I know that the last recorded bayonet charge happened in Iraq with some Marines who were fighting defending a bridge and finally ran out of ammo and the order was given out to fix bayonets. Being Marines they followed orders charge the enemy yelling and screaming like the devil cuz they knew they're going to die and the enemy reportedly retreated. I know that the last time not commissioned officers or officers swords were used in combat with Vietnam and it's mostly because the US military at first either didn't have enough machetes or refuse to issue them because the military is stupid. So when those battles got into close combat Marines do with Marines do and they used every weapon available to include their NCO officer sword, smashing a man's grape with a helmet, using a shovel or tent stake. In fact there are many Marines who carry a modern short sword or hatchet or tomahawk in war zones to this day.
@acb1511
@acb1511 Жыл бұрын
An M16 is 1,0 m, a Garand is 1,1 m.
@daxasd3270
@daxasd3270 Жыл бұрын
tbf, in a trench warfare a longer sword is not practical either.
@angryzombie8088
@angryzombie8088 Жыл бұрын
Bayonet+rifle is like spear, but shorter & heavier. To make it worse, the handle is in the middle. In total the reach is like a short sword but handles like a spear. Against sword its better to put lead hand behind the mag.
@Epic-pf8od
@Epic-pf8od Жыл бұрын
Short spear trumps sword imo.
@arx3516
@arx3516 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be better to detach the bayonet and use it as a knife.
@inquisitorsteele8397
@inquisitorsteele8397 Жыл бұрын
@@Epic-pf8od But modern rifle and carbine couldn't compare to short spear length and balance though. So One hand sword like sabre and rapier would have reach advantage against most of the modern infantry firearm with bayonet fixed.
@Epic-pf8od
@Epic-pf8od Жыл бұрын
@@inquisitorsteele8397 A rifle has more reach. A carbine with an extendable stock would have one similar to the sword.
@inquisitorsteele8397
@inquisitorsteele8397 Жыл бұрын
@@Epic-pf8od no it's not. A musket rifle definitely yes. But the short modern rifle definitely not. Sabre or rapier length combine length of an arm can easily give reach advantage over modern rifle with bayonet fixed, why you might ask? Because you need to hold your rifle with two handed and that why the swing and thrust would be quite limited. P.S. Have you ever see sabre or rapier fencing before? Becaue it's seem to me that have no clue about thrustingor swinging range one-handed sword with considerable length look like.
@RangerOfTheOrder
@RangerOfTheOrder Жыл бұрын
I love this. They're almost equally matched and this perfectly exposes the strengths and weaknesses of each. The bayonet is a close quarters weapon, and if he gets in close, where the katana can't swing the bayonet is almost guaranteed a hit. The katana is a long sword, and when he kept the bayonet at distance, the katana was able to take advantage of its reach.
@tricorne.953
@tricorne.953 5 ай бұрын
Honestly depends with what kind of bayonet you use, modern bayonets issued by modern armies tend to be shorter, but old bayonets dating even back to ww1 tend to be more longer + the rifle's length. So back then, bayonets on your gun made it essentially a spear.
@inventor121
@inventor121 Жыл бұрын
The bayonet is simply another type of spear, only instead of putting a pointy thing on a stick, you put a pointy thing on a BOOMstick. Incidentally, bayonet fighting is similar to Batleth fighting as well. I personally want to see them use a bear spear, but I doubt an 8 foot long spear will fit in that dojo
@user-bi1ls2ou7u
@user-bi1ls2ou7u Жыл бұрын
Hello Korean bro. I’m Japanese army boy. In JSDF still now are training 銃剣道(bayonet combat version Kendo). That is traditional sport during before Ww2 the imperial army era”s sport
@guyblew1733
@guyblew1733 Жыл бұрын
Two equally matched fighters. The soldier used his rifle like that pole arm with the katana blade attached to. Very good video 💖💖💖💖🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@silverarm6130
@silverarm6130 Жыл бұрын
Bayonet on rifle = short spear, yes a short spear can stand with a Katana.
@Zaxares
@Zaxares Жыл бұрын
Pretty much. :) The downside to bayonets is that real rifles are quite heavy AND not terribly agile, so they won't have the same kind of speed or maneuverability of a shortspear. Still, as the video shows, never underestimate the effectiveness of a guy with a sharp blade with some reach to it. ;)
@inquisitorsteele8397
@inquisitorsteele8397 Жыл бұрын
@@Zaxares Against one-hand sword which handguard like sabre and rapier thing might get worse bayonet guy though. As those kind of sword usually have more reach than bayonet fixed on modern rifle.
@stefthorman8548
@stefthorman8548 11 ай бұрын
nah, if the kendo guy thrust, the rifle guy is over.
@rdrrr
@rdrrr 4 ай бұрын
@@Zaxares Modern carbines can be very light, easily under 7lbs. Actually, the WWII-era M1 Carbine weighed under 6lbs unloaded and was very maneuverable and handy at 90cm (3') total length.
@boogaboogaboogaable
@boogaboogaboogaable 2 ай бұрын
Had a mentor when I was a teenager that was a US Staff Sergeant that had just come back from Korea. He taught me a great respect for the Korean people and armed forces. Good on you for your service!
@Necrodermis
@Necrodermis Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the fighting style would change if the rifle was changed to a old bolt action rifle with a sword bayonet? Kind of like the ones used during WW1
@russianbot2630
@russianbot2630 Жыл бұрын
It changed less based on the bayonet but more based on the rifle itself. Modern rifles are shorter and lighter which has its pros and cons. Modern rifles use a pistol grip which can be use to push the weapon with more force. An old bolt action wouldn’t have that so you use it more like a spear. Modern combat rifles have detachable 30 round magazines (on average) it would be used like a swords guard.
@QuestionableAdviser_
@QuestionableAdviser_ Жыл бұрын
it's basically a boom-spear, tho the bolt action rifles would have longer range
@Necrodermis
@Necrodermis Жыл бұрын
@@QuestionableAdviser_ yeah i was wondering if it would handle more like a spear due to its shape and length
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 Жыл бұрын
The bayonet user was so quick with his hits!
@Nasraniksatria
@Nasraniksatria Жыл бұрын
If modern soldier was a hero in For Honour: 3:30
@hantu7380
@hantu7380 Жыл бұрын
Pirate 2.0
@tddd2636
@tddd2636 Жыл бұрын
That's actually a cool thing to imagine
@CaptDuty491
@CaptDuty491 Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣
@KoishiVibin
@KoishiVibin Жыл бұрын
special hitzones in the body and head protect from all damage. yes, all. modern armor is very very durable, but covers little.
@Phoenix8492
@Phoenix8492 Жыл бұрын
Butt strike could work very well as a Parry move
@eljuano28
@eljuano28 23 күн бұрын
Good natural aggressiveness, Sgt. The Bayonet is reserved for when you're having a very bad day. It may be better than having nothing, but it's much better not to run out of ammo. Cheers from a U.S. Marine Veteran.
@Chaerea_Carmin-Slaanesh_Chosen
@Chaerea_Carmin-Slaanesh_Chosen Жыл бұрын
This does highlight that bayonettes are a bit of a compromise and are not as effective at close quarters as a weapon built specifically for the task, however as we ALSO see here, it can be a rather effective compromise if used correctly. Great matches!
@shadowtrooper262
@shadowtrooper262 Жыл бұрын
When you bring a gun to a sword fight but the gunman wants to do it melee style.
@hokinko93
@hokinko93 Жыл бұрын
This is by far the most fking awesome kendo video i watched on the internet, i like both kendo and military stuff and this video cross-over these awesome things, good one!
@LynSain
@LynSain Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of GATE episode 6. And it always nice to see them sparring aggressively so that we can see the full potential of each weapons' capabilities.
@Friendlysociopath
@Friendlysociopath Жыл бұрын
Wow- this has some fantastic timing. I was just getting set to write a bayoneted rifle vs katana sequence.
@KoishiVibin
@KoishiVibin Жыл бұрын
Will armor be a factor? How long is the rifle? Also, note something. The position of the hands is more vulnerable but makes the weapon hard to displace, solid hits that might have knocked aside or defeated a regular defense just meet hard steel. Another thing is that there is slightly faster rotation I would think...
@user-kv3pc9tg9i
@user-kv3pc9tg9i 10 ай бұрын
VERY REALLISTIC. WELL DONE.
@Clown_2525
@Clown_2525 Жыл бұрын
これは中々、面白い検証動画やな どっこいどっこいなのがこれまた 面白いなw
@thiagocarvalho2928
@thiagocarvalho2928 Жыл бұрын
Basically kendo vs jukendo kkkkkk. But an interesting fact is that in ww1 bayonets often got stuck on enemy's body and exposed soldier to nearby enemies, so blunt and cutting melee weapon were more reliabe in several circunstances.
@glenturner1668
@glenturner1668 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting.! In very close the bayonet has it, close the gap and almost every time was a kill. Or a dual kill. Loved this one. ❤️
@MatchstickDaddy
@MatchstickDaddy Жыл бұрын
Really love this video but man bayonets we’re terrifying when they were in use by militaries. My grandma told me a story of how she saw a kid stabbed by a Japanese soldier with a bayonet, and that Japanese soldier proudly carried around the boys dead body on his bayonet like some sick trophy. Sadly, Japanese soldiers are still praised in Japan for the gruesome violence they committed back in ww2 days
@a.t6066
@a.t6066 Жыл бұрын
Japan isn't taught about ww2 in schools. They don't know what their soldiers did.
@kris4786
@kris4786 Жыл бұрын
Your from the Philippines? Or Chinese?
@toastythunder3612
@toastythunder3612 Жыл бұрын
this video is so good! I really want some action scenes in movies with people out of ammo fighting with bayonets!
@surplus_kato
@surplus_kato Жыл бұрын
The Daewoo is such a nice rifle, I wanna add it to my collection eventually
@Sb129
@Sb129 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I've had a matchup like this in my mind for a long time and seeing it done irl is amazing, even if it is a bit short. It is the type of weird fight I'd want to incorporate into a story. Longer version plz, with the same gun and/or a WWI type as those weapons were much longer. Tyvm for such a great video, good inspiration for me to write such an encounter.
@user-mj6dm4wy3s
@user-mj6dm4wy3s Жыл бұрын
二人共、本当に強いというのが見てわかります 銃剣と剣道、どちらかが一方的にならず、互角の戦いなのが見ていて面白いです このような企画、また見てみたいです
@angryohare446
@angryohare446 Жыл бұрын
Loved the matches but I feel like the Bayonet on a rifle vs sword is just 'short, weirdly shaped (and possibly unwieldy) spear vs sword'
@KingOpenReview
@KingOpenReview 8 ай бұрын
"I choose the assault rifle." "So you're going for a range build?" "No."
@iljaivanov9743
@iljaivanov9743 Жыл бұрын
Anyone noticed that he can also use Indiana Jones's tactic? The one he used with his handgun against swordsman? 😁😁😁
@Jupiterxice
@Jupiterxice 8 ай бұрын
The bayonet will never be obsolete.
@thusitha320
@thusitha320 Жыл бұрын
The kendo is seriously holding the sword fighter back I think. 1. Once he gets the headshot in, he does zero defence on the followup counter blows. 2. He is very preoccupied with fast headshots and only that. 3. As soon as the bayonet comes within close range, he loses control, with just random motions here and there. 4. No stop thrusts. No gun grabs. No cuts except from top. No leg shots. No down to up cuts. I think against someone wielding the full arsenal of sword combat a bayonet would have no chance. Specially against a swordsman this incredibly quick and so short a gun.
@mayrokratt6195
@mayrokratt6195 Жыл бұрын
Koreans hate Katana, biased video. Must be repressed war memories.
@manstermanman08
@manstermanman08 Жыл бұрын
@@mayrokratt6195 what
@mayrokratt6195
@mayrokratt6195 Жыл бұрын
@@manstermanman08 this video is biased and is not how real combat would play out, also many koreans lost their heads to the Katana
@legendofo4094
@legendofo4094 19 күн бұрын
Bit of history, bayonets were the merging of black powder muskets, pikes used against calvary, and later the infantry sword. As we created firearms with cartridge ammo, boxed magazines, and automatic fire, calvary disappeared altogether. Without much use of swords in modern wars, bayonets universally became knives
@user-fl6ek2yq1n
@user-fl6ek2yq1n Жыл бұрын
剣道家が突きを使ったら、銃剣道家が、どう捌くのか見てみたい
@abrahamzatarain547
@abrahamzatarain547 Жыл бұрын
We should bring back really long bayonets like at least 17 inches
@Priapos93
@Priapos93 Жыл бұрын
So much fun to watch and study!
@Waldemarvonanhalt
@Waldemarvonanhalt Жыл бұрын
With bolt-action rifles, the reach advantage offered by the bayonet is even greater.
@sgtinfantry1579
@sgtinfantry1579 Жыл бұрын
A bayonet attached to a gun is like a spear but it’s a knife attached to a gun
@AfaqueAhmed_
@AfaqueAhmed_ Жыл бұрын
So a bayonet low key makes you better than an average medieval infantry man if they don't chop your gun .
@madhatten00
@madhatten00 Жыл бұрын
spears are always effective and have always been the go to war weapon even in ancient greece a bayonet on a gun is practically a makeshift spear
@abejal3684
@abejal3684 Жыл бұрын
Riffle with bayonet brought means "the last stands until death"
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
It is interesting that bayonets and rifles were muuuuuuuuuch longer back in the day, I suppose since back then the bayonet was far more of a mainline weapon rather than a utility knife and training tool we have nowadays. Would be neat to see how, say, a Brown Bess with a bayonet would do against a spear.
@lostonearth7856
@lostonearth7856 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was, the Idea mostly comes from the 17-18 century when men would line up in large formations where they would first open fire a couple of times before quickly closing distance to break up enemy formations. But from the 16th - early 20th century, it played more of a secondary and more vital role to stop the enemy Calvery charges as horses don't really like to charge into a wall of bayonets and would rather go around, allowing soldiers to shoot them. By ww1, bayonets took a back seat role to trench mace, which would then be replaced by shorter bayonets that could be used as knives which are more useful than the longer ones as knives could be used for a million things while a long bayonet is large a bulky.
@BaconSlayer69
@BaconSlayer69 Жыл бұрын
It was mainly against cavalry
@limonsolitario740
@limonsolitario740 Жыл бұрын
In Japan there is a martial art that teaches the way of the bayonet: Jukendo.
@battlefieldpro12345
@battlefieldpro12345 Жыл бұрын
Scenarios like this had to have played out between US soldiers and Japanese during WW2 on some occasions and thats crazy to think about.
@toasthernandez5930
@toasthernandez5930 Жыл бұрын
Personal opinion. Swords man: Side step the trust cut the legs, he leaves it exposed and out in front of him. Keep ya distance and cut the fingers. Gun/knife: you did very good actually just watch that leg, he got a longer reach but didn’t take advantage of it. I would of. I’m not warrior but I’m down to try it myself to see how I hold up lmao (but broke so can’t fly out sorry)
@JensMorrison
@JensMorrison Жыл бұрын
Bayonets are essentially short spears. Of course they can.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega Жыл бұрын
I feel like you should use more thrusting attacks against the bayonet, to counter his thrusts.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
Thrusts while deadly do not have the stopping power of dismembered limbs and cuts to the face.
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega Жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1Sure, but sometimes making a sacrifice is necessary to 'win.' Adaptivity is important. You can sacrifice power for reach, if needed. I felt like it may have been, and could have altered the outcome. Especially since it is a shinai and they can use it to keep opponents at bay, rather than pierce their body. Keep in mind, I'm not saying this person did anything wrong, or that I'm better than them. Just an unprofessional observation.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
@@chaos_omega Perhaps, but I am speculating here that you lose your reach advantage and risk a double kill
@jaketheasianguy3307
@jaketheasianguy3307 Жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1 katate tsuki or 1 handed thrust (with only the left hand) is very safe since the range is double compare to 2 handed and and you're not in range for a counter blow.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
@@jaketheasianguy3307 Very true, but that reach is at the expense of recovery time. If he is parried he might have enough range to retreat but he will not redouble. I don't love my recovery time on katate tsuki with my (560g) shinai, I don't believe that a (1200g) katana will improve things.
@KaoruMzk
@KaoruMzk Жыл бұрын
"You can't bring a gun to a sword fight" *brings Bayonete"
@cep2311
@cep2311 Ай бұрын
I wanna see Bayonet fencing return to the mainstream. The Mokuju was made for that discipline in mind.
@rw0dyxer012
@rw0dyxer012 Жыл бұрын
I'm amazed that so far people are praising the bayonet and sword on their performance. I was expecting to find "Just load the gun. End of story!"
@31oannamphong66
@31oannamphong66 Жыл бұрын
I think this is for scenarios where you areout of ammo or close quarter
@oshaughnessyrof5201
@oshaughnessyrof5201 Жыл бұрын
As a Canadian kendo enthusiast who’s also in the infantry reserves here as well this made me pretty happy to see
@Chroma710
@Chroma710 Жыл бұрын
You guys need HEMA gear. The steel mesh HEMA mask offers much better protection than kendo gear.
@amazin444
@amazin444 Жыл бұрын
never thought a bayonet would be this effective, oh well the more you know😝
@pangboi3453
@pangboi3453 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this style of sword martial art suffers against thrusting attacks in particular, because the sword is always center line, I think some other sword art that makes usr of fo center guard positions would be much better in this situation, German longsword is the easiest example of this that I can point to, it makes good use of many guard positions that make deflecting thrusts much easier while in the same motion setting you up for a good counter attack.
@longvu8430
@longvu8430 Жыл бұрын
Never brought gun to sword fight 😂
@black_thunder2159
@black_thunder2159 Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe of this video is how the army guy was fighting against Kendo practitioner instead of a more dynamic Kenjutsu, with a common hand to hand combat practice. Kendo (yes its also a Kenjutsu) is more of a discipline practice & footworks instead of combat oriented practice. This same channel used to feature a video of Kendo fighting against Kenjutsu and the Kendo guy gets whacked almost 80% of the time. Kendo guy in this video mentioned how his defense was completely open when the bayonet guy gets personal, this wouldn't be the case if Kendo practice allows for wrestling, rifle & a bayonet is closer to a polearm, lots of other samurai sparring allows for one handed wielding of their own sword while manipulating their enemy weapon with their other arm, this would greatly impact the effectiveness of the soldier's bayonet rifle, much like a soldier with a spear, you can grab the non bladed part of the spear, while they would think twice to grab your all-bladed sword. its common knowledge that spear is terrible within personal range, and that is why Bayonet gets significantly shorter through the ages, to further increase its effectiveness at closer range, even average guns gets shorter due to same reason. (Also cuz bullets gets better) I'm not saying Kendo is a bad Martial art, I'm saying its not a good representation of how a soldier with a bayonet & a soldier with a sword would fight in close combat with this two contrasting martial art with different purpose.
@ghost-jesus
@ghost-jesus Жыл бұрын
Bayonets historically got longer through the ages to increase reach even as barrels got shorter due to smokeless powder in order to keep the reach, they only got shorter once ammunition production got fast enough and high quality enough to support mass-issue of self-loading rifles, which made the bayonet more of a niche weapon.
@black_thunder2159
@black_thunder2159 4 ай бұрын
@@ghost-jesus i don't think bayonets gets longer through the ages, check out bayonets for modern assault rifle & bayonets made for line infantry, not only that modern bayonet tend to also double as a utility knife, musket/percussion/needle rifle bayonets are much much longer.
@ghost-jesus
@ghost-jesus 4 ай бұрын
@@black_thunder2159 literally only read the first half of my comment, modern bayonets aren't even really meant to be used as a bayonet, theyre made to be used as knives, the bayonet function is really ceremonial and you can tell by the fact that they are too short to be used effectively and the edges are sharp, which makes them get stuck too easily.
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! I expect the replica rifle weighs half of what a real one does so it's maybe more agile than the real thing. The bayonet is probably at a disadvantage vs a sword but of course, it's on a RIFLE!😂 The bayonet dates back to early matchlock guns that were unreliable and had a low rate of fire, but it seems it still has utility in the modern day.
@cleidsonaraujopeixoto163
@cleidsonaraujopeixoto163 Жыл бұрын
Rob, usually those replicas are worth the donut - same feel and weight of the real deal. Also, bayonet fighting is still a thing and surely It will be for long - hardly anything is more nerve-wrecking than to hear the opposing force commander shout "FIX BAYONETS!" - that means the opposing force is driven to kill and maim up close.
@derpsquad1o142
@derpsquad1o142 Жыл бұрын
His yells sound like the Ice King from Castle Crashers
@deliveryman_dan
@deliveryman_dan Жыл бұрын
The bayonet has the advantage of being able to do difficult-to-block thrusting attack but has the disadvantage of only having that as your most available attack technique and also having a heavier (?) weapon
@snowwhite7677
@snowwhite7677 8 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, the guy with the bayonet, will also be wearing a Kevlar & potentially Plates.
@hantu7380
@hantu7380 Жыл бұрын
Cool so basically jukendo vs kendo
@taemien9219
@taemien9219 Жыл бұрын
The Present Arms at the end was a great touch.
@ComfortsSpecter
@ComfortsSpecter Ай бұрын
Bayonet Gaming Moments Mostly Good Display of Bayonet Technique Great Show Thank You Bayonet Culture Isn’t Respected enough
@malingehring165
@malingehring165 Жыл бұрын
Another example of don't bring a sword to a gun fight! The rifle man was amazingly fast!
@hayate_13
@hayate_13 Жыл бұрын
Это мега круто! Штыковой бой это нечто!
@emifuc1211
@emifuc1211 Жыл бұрын
Great sparring! Top level on both sides imho
@miuraayato
@miuraayato Жыл бұрын
これは日本では滅多にできない面白い動画
@insertusername9755
@insertusername9755 Жыл бұрын
As someone who never practiced with a bayonet in army (arty kinda dont...) this is incredebly fasinating to see!
@chieckenman4432
@chieckenman4432 Жыл бұрын
(Suddenly realizes his gun can shoot)
@vake1234
@vake1234 25 күн бұрын
It's not the weapon that matters, but the person wielding it
@ddr8570
@ddr8570 Жыл бұрын
*Points rifle at him* Smooth victory 🗿
@renlee9534
@renlee9534 Жыл бұрын
i commented requesting a video of bayonet vs katana fight 4 months ago on the dual blades of musashi video, only had one like but I like to think I helped inspire this video :))
@pillr3817
@pillr3817 Жыл бұрын
I took one look at the thumbnail took it without the title.
@Priestbokmei1
@Priestbokmei1 Жыл бұрын
I train with a hanbo much like the rifleman. A really great video, gentlemen!
@Zippsterman
@Zippsterman 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what damage to the rifle a katana would do with a full power swing that we see get parried here. The rifle would certainly hold up but there may be damage or the katana may even bind on some of the polymer parts.
@reijiminato8762
@reijiminato8762 13 күн бұрын
Musashi Miyamoto would’ve been so proud
@wert7773
@wert7773 Жыл бұрын
If you hold the rifle a certain way, you can squeeze this lever called a trigger, this will ensure a higher chance to win agaijst the katana
@edi9892
@edi9892 Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect it like this. 1) Assuming a modern soldier, he should be wearing a vest and helmet. Thus, the head is not a primary target. 2) Since his weapon is rather sluggish and short-ranged, feints should be more useful. 3) the moment the soldier charged into the samurai and the guards collapsed, I expected him to do a legsweep, but got disappointed.
@hypnoticskull6342
@hypnoticskull6342 Жыл бұрын
People really need to make a scene in a movie where a soldier runs out of bullets and fights with nothing but wacking people with his rifle and stabbing with the bayonet
@Eyejrbdysk
@Eyejrbdysk Жыл бұрын
People don’t realize an empty gun with a bayonet is just as scary as a claymore. The actual gun wouldn’t be sliced like butter and would be hard to cut completely through.
@BigPannunz
@BigPannunz Жыл бұрын
0:45 They way i be screaming when i stub my toe
@alexanderg5736
@alexanderg5736 Жыл бұрын
Автомат под натовский в рукопашном бою крошится так как ненадёжны пластиковые элементы, другое дело АКМ например гораздо лучше приспособлен для рукопашного боя.
@Phoenix8492
@Phoenix8492 Жыл бұрын
What makes this interesting is the lopsided side difference: the kendoka is a head taller than the soldier, and as such has considerable advantage in certain aspects. How would these engagements go against a kendoka of the same height as the soldier?
@orayt1329
@orayt1329 Жыл бұрын
You are good at parrying my sword but can you deflect this:
@templarjinaiwarriors
@templarjinaiwarriors 5 ай бұрын
Parabéns pelo vídeo 👋👋👋👋👋 Treinei muitos anos Kendo e Iaido (4⁰ e 5⁰ Dan ) , depois passei a me dedicar só em estilos antigos (Shinto Ryu Shinken Batto Enmei Ryu, Ogasawara Kyujutsu e Yagyu Shinkage Ryu) cheguei ao Menkyo 2 anos atrás . treino atualmente no Gekikken por ser uma modalidade que permite mais diversificação de golpes reais e armas assim como uso de Jujutsu e Atemi nos combates diferente do Kendo e Iaido moderno . Ex militar , fui instrutor de tiro em cursos de formação de Agentes de Segurança e treinamento tático de equipe por 25 anos . No âmbito ocidental Esgrima Portuguesa e Espanhola . Restaurador (Togishi ) de espadas de arte Nihonto era hobby virou profissão kkkkk Atualmente aposentado da Área de Segurança Pública e Privada . 45 anos dedicados ao estudo , treinamento, história e filosofia das artes marciais Se puder humildemente contribuir: É um experimento muito bom o demonstrado no vídeo , necessário apontar que ambos os lados neste caso tem curva de aprendizagem e adaptação para situação devido a constante tentativa de acertarem golpes. Em uma guerra real , isso não ocorre muito , um lado prevalece sobre o outro rapidamente devido a necessidade de sobrevivência portanto dentro do contexto teremos oportunidades iguais. O Jukendo estuda esse tipo de embate baioneta X espada fazem mais de 140 anos desde a Restauração e Guerra Civil Meiji Também temos a experiência de diversos batalhões desde as guerras Napoleônicas na Europa , Guerra Civil Americana , Farroupilha, Guerra da Cisplatina , Paraguai . Pode a espada ou lâmina similar (machete) vencer uma arma de fogo ativa no tiro e com baioneta? Fácil não é mas as evidências dizem que sim em determinados contextos , no combate de até 10 metros de distância , na diferença do nivel de habilidade dos combatentes , falhas mecânicas do disparo ( muito comuns em armas semi automáticas e automáticas, principalmente por munição molhada e lama) . Ambos estão de armaduras ( capacete , colete etc ).? Isso faz muita diferença, a defesa do corpo dos combatentes , essas armaduras resistem a disparos de tiros e perfurações? Outra questão , lutar de armadura não é usar Bogu , Bogu é uma proteção para se evitar machucados onde os golpes são focados nas área protegidas (suhada Kenpô ) , Lutar com uma armadura de combate como um Yoroi ou mesmo armaduras militares modernas significa usar a armadura no combate ou para deter o ferimento ou para ferir o oponente ( Kaisha Kenpô/ Yoroi Kumiuchi). então o kote de um Yoroi e seu Sode pode deter um golpe e ser usado para socar o oponente de forma grave e contundente. o Domaru pode ser usado para shimewaza .O Kabuto para dar cabeçadas poderosas além de defender a cabeça . Os Gurkhas , um batalhão de elite do Nepal e Reino Unido usam em combate a temível Kukri no tamanho pequeno para faça e grande para facão, é uma força especial com grande rendimento em combate corpo a corpo . Os Batalhões Sirkhis da Índia , idem , altamente eficientes na combinação guerra moderna X lâminas . Japão , Coreia , China todos treinam muito efetivamente com espadas . Na Europa se observou a importância do HEMA para forças militares e policiais e a Esgrima retornou às Academias de Formação de Sargentos para cima . Leste Europeu e Eurásia .a Espada Cossaca deixou forte legado no preparo e uso em combate por soldados de elite . No Vietnã e Laos muitas forças especiais observaram a necessidade do uso de lâminas em combate na selva , pois a proximidade dos embates corpo a corpo era constante . No deserto na Guerra do Golfo eram combates a distância mas nas invasões das cidades como Faillusa , eram combates de proximidade brutais,. novamente a baioneta , a faca, machados , pás de combate, facões e espadas curtas táticas ganharam protagonismo como ferramentas indispensáveis para sobrevivência do soldado . A cavalaria com cavalos , mulas e dromedários foi bem usada novamente na Guerra do Golfo e Afeganistão para deslocamentos silenciosos em áreas sem estradas , de difícil acesso e montanhosas A espada assim como a Cavalaria são armas muito úteis em todo o mundo principalmente no policiamento de áreas largas como parques , praças , estádios de futebol e grandes aglomerações de pessoas . Se você pretende entender o uso da espada em combate , você deverá ir além da questão desportiva e treinar Koryu e estilos táticos , treinar estilos que foram usados de fato em combate estudar táticas e estratégias . Também é necessário ter um bom conhecimento sobre armas de fogo.principalmente no comportamento em combate ( silhuetas em stand de tiro não revidam , o stand de tiro é para treinar pontaria, segurança e procedimentos no disparo , atenção, foco , posição de defesa , ofensividade , progressão de tiro etc , ou seja a base ), confronto é outra história . Já vi excelentes atiradores , campeões de tiro prático travarem diante de um confronto real. Ossu 🙇🏻‍♀️🙏
@sageofsixpathskakashi3742
@sageofsixpathskakashi3742 Жыл бұрын
You should do a proper match of Kendo vs Jūkendo (bayonet kendo) that would be more professional of you
@jihoonjung7527
@jihoonjung7527 Жыл бұрын
m1개런드 같이 길이가 길고 총검 장착한 총으로 대결하는건 어떨지 궁금하네요
@user-xj9to7ve7o
@user-xj9to7ve7o Жыл бұрын
M1개런드 무거워서 금방 지칠 수도 있을거 같네요 ㅋㅋㅋ
@user-qd1uc3rl1d
@user-qd1uc3rl1d Жыл бұрын
2차세계 당시 일본도를 든 일본제국군 장교와 개런드 소총을 든 미 해병대원의 백병전 전투를 보는 것 같습니다. 영상 흥미있고 재미있게 잘보고 갑니다. 2023년 새해 복 많이 받으시고 건강하시길 바랍니다 💝💪
@Re-2005
@Re-2005 Жыл бұрын
Bayonet fighting it's like Half Swording with a longsword surprisingly but with limited angle of attack
@ucbaolamlu5865
@ucbaolamlu5865 Жыл бұрын
i know its not related but gun with bayonet vs blade really made me curious after the anime GATE fight scene
@cesare_1302
@cesare_1302 Жыл бұрын
Same lol
@casbot71
@casbot71 Жыл бұрын
The rifle just needs to have some ammo to make it a sure thing…
@dflyshodan
@dflyshodan Жыл бұрын
I want to see this against kenjutsu.
@ionxtandstuff2308
@ionxtandstuff2308 Жыл бұрын
Least American samurai from the USA:
@Vincentorix
@Vincentorix 4 ай бұрын
The bayonet was originally designed to replace the pike, which was used to keep Calvary at bay.
@Christopherson2006
@Christopherson2006 Жыл бұрын
It's kind of like a short spear ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
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