Can Burrow afford to miss playoffs, Mahomes snubbed from Pro Bowl for 1st time as QB1 | THE FACILITY

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[@JerryFerguson-v9k]

This Joe burrow hate is crazy gotta stop watching I’m going back to espn

[@drakebrady174]

Joe burrow has gotten more love from the media for losing the Super Bowl than stafford got for actually winning the Super Bowl that year it’s insane

[@tyler4real537]

Because he’s the only QB currently in the league that has beat Mahomes in the playoffs

[@asandamahlangu407]

Getting to the SuperBowl from the AFC is a gauntlet. In the last few years it’s only been him and mahomes.

[@brandonbooth3231]

@drakebrady174 This the one right here. Stafford never gets talked about and he has a ring and the career stats. Level 1 Pat Level 2 Lamar and Josh or Josh and Lamar Level 3 Stafford and Burrow

[@TimL-s2d]

He took a perennial bad organization who picked him number 1. He beat Mahomes. 2 afc championships games. Nobody is faulting Stafford for not winning in Detroit.

[@bigSGbryce_]

They forget Lamar was hurt that year those two playoff runs Joe had Lamar wasn’t even healthy. They almost lost to us with Tyler Huntley at backup when Lamar is healthy they don’t make the playoffs 😂😂

[@to4316]

10:36 This man really said Burrow "beat a Lamar Jackson team in the playoffs. Without Lamar" Lol how tf is it a Lamar Jackson team if Lamar isn't even playing

[@jrfaithful]

And they barely beat the Ravens that year 😂😂😂

[@Tee-2025]

Lmao I was just thinking about that ... that game was the Huntley jumping over oline reaching over and fumbling on the goalline return for the touchdown. Do they put that on lamar W/L record because one thing I couldn't remember was a lamar vs Bengals playoff game lol

[@BigO631]

He threw that in there so the context for the win was there. It would’ve been worst if he didn’t mention Lamar didn’t play.

[@kyledavis3739]

Regular season when they play head to head burrow gets killed by mar like this year 0-2 😂😂😂

[@robertwebb2015]

Facts. Joe burrow can't do anything but put up numbers when Lamar is Healthy. Joe burrow can't beat Lamar l. That's why 8 is better.

[@michaelbaynor5205]

James is such a straight shooter bro😭😭😭that’s my mfing guy

[@KennnnHK]

Not when it comes to Rodgers 😂

[@twizzy585ots]

​@KennnnHK at least his bias is with someone he won with 😅

[@Mindag13]

Facts

[@FrescoRahbo]

@@KennnnHK he lets you know he’s biased though lol

[@GothicBran7]

@@KennnnHKhe say it tho

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

“I don’t ever, ever, ever wanna hear us have Jalen Hurts out of the top 5 if that’s what we going with because Jalen Hurts done been to a Super Bowl. Jalen Hurts done won playoff games. Jalen Hurts wins every single year, way more than Burrow”

[@brandondillman5841]

Tanner McKee would win 10+ games/year with that roster. I can’t even imagine the numbers Josh Allen or Burrow would put up if they were in Philly. They’d never lose a game.

[@scottyc9917]

They LOVE burrow, Allen, Herbert.

[@linda22_]

Exactly!

[@justo2640]

@@brandondillman5841hurts was winning games even before all the talent arrived to Philly. And the eagles record without Jalen is still incredibly bad

[@bcamm3100]

Chase trying to fight when he's in quicksand...

[@brandonbooth3231]

Man listen, when Shady and James band together they are like Voltron. Chase and Acho had no chance in this debate lol.

[@isiahnelsoniv]

😂😂 it was amazing to watch

[@kwoylee5617]

That was awesome! 😂

[@ramonmabry]

Chase never keeps that same energy for lamarrrrr 😂😂😂

[@Semperityy]

Chase a lame ah white boy

[@JosephLawrence-v1u]

Just like Jones with Lamar

[@JohnJohn-wm6dk]

He like white QB

[@khanyae10]

@@JohnJohn-wm6dk he doesn’t even hide it either

[@JohnJohn-wm6dk]

@@khanyae10 Rs 😂

[@velder22]

Patrick mahomes plays one bad half in the playoffs and Joe burrow gets to live off at the rest of his career, what has he done besides that

[@gutiadim8028]

Him and josh Allen are pushed by media due to white privileges. Lamar to pat will win superbowl this year.

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Went back to the afc championship game. Took a team that had not a playoff game in over 30 years to the superbowl. Was drafted into a FAR worse situation than any other qb who we consider elite. Funny how stafford is considered elite now but when he was on the NFC version of the bengals he never even won 1 playoff game.

[@bigzaksnak9998]

⁠@@seanmunninghoff3496Chase and Higgins up to this point. Y’all forget that every time tho. It’s one thing to have good players, every star needs help, but when we compare to others no elite qb in this era of qbs has had such a favorable situation like burrow and he still can’t win. 2 bonafide stars and an up and coming rb shoot he had Mixon at his best too. Fact of the matter he got lucky the chiefs collapsed that second half or he’d have absolutely no leg to stand on.

[@hinata365247]

And the year mahomes won a SB he was out for games when he got hurt and won the SB with a bad defense.

[@Chiefstogetthe3peat]

Exactly! Burrow and the Bengals talk a whole lot of smack for achieving nothing 😂 They are the equivalent to the Grizzlies of the NBA. All talk and nothing to back it up.

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Yes Chase, Joe Burrow beat Patrick Mahomes in the 2021 AFC Championship game and then Patrick Mahomes came back the next year in a rematch against Joe and beat him on one good ankle and Joe has a 1-5 record against Lamar.

[@kiriagosbauer2044]

Lamar Jackson doesn’t play meaningful football

[@ONKINGDAVID]

@@kiriagosbauer2044he definitely does

[@JovhonteFirstOfHisName]

@@kiriagosbauer2044when his team doesn’t show up it’s always Lamar’s fault

[@kiriagosbauer2044]

@@JovhonteFirstOfHisName it’s literally the opposite lmao that’s why he has 3 mvps yet only has 2 playoff wins

[@MikkiChavez]

Burrow had ZERO 4Q TDS in the playoffs. The DEFENSE stopped the Chiefs with 2 picks in 2nd half & 1 in OT & the KICKER won 😂😂😂💯

[@MrOhioPlayer]

Chase Daniels you know damn well you would not make all them excuses if it was Lamar Jackson missing the playoffs.

[@Lsufan-20]

Lamar did miss the playoffs tho and nobody brings it up

[@PrinceOntopEnt]

@@Lsufan-20 HE WAS HURT

[@daquaylenavie3740]

⁠@@Lsufan-20he’s only missed the playoffs once when he was hurt. The other time he was hurt he still had his team in playoffs contention Huntley just sold that game against the bengals.

[@Lsufan-20]

@ AND BURROW WAS LAST YEAR AS WELL

[@daquaylenavie3740]

@@Lsufan-20 Ik that but he’s healthy rn and his team has to rely on the chiefs back ups to beat the broncos , the jets to beat the dolphins and still have to beat the Steelers just to get in. IF this was Mahomes, Josh or Lamar in the same position they would get crucified but burrow gets excuses ?

[@brandonbooth3231]

If Lamar or Josh missed the playoffs 2 years in a row and was healthy for the full season they would be ready to call them "frauds". Keep that same energy for Joseph. Plus he gets hurt 50% of the time. He also has 2 Elite WR's!

[@Surinder1964]

Because burrow went more deeper in playoff then Josh , and definitely deeper than Lamar Jackson.

[@Seanksb]

I think Burrow has to be considered clearly behind the Lamar and Allen tier of QBs now. But he's still in that next tier.

[@jilldailey1206]

@@Surinder1964 Deeper don't mean nothing if u don't win a SB.

[@JmacDaloc]

Do you watch the games or just get emotional over Lamar?

[@byronsmith3152]

This right here. Purdy misses the playoffs this year and they talk about not getting him paid because he is a fraud. Now I am not comparing their talent levels but at some point, if you call Joe elite and he keeps missing the playoffs, then is he really elite?

[@nnanna1439]

Never seen a qb get more mileage out of beating Mahomes than Burrow.

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Name the other qb in the nfl who beat Mahomes in the playoffs

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

I’m still waiting

[@MaxKownacki]

@@seanmunninghoff3496Brady and Burrow the only ones to do it fr

[@dropssky]

​@@seanmunninghoff3496BINGO

[@jamescrawford4731]

​@@seanmunninghoff3496mahomes beat his self in that game

[@pullupjeff]

All these conversations are the reason why mahomes is the best, we’ve seen him with a talented supporting cast, we’ve seen him with bottom 5 defenses, we’ve seen him with rebuilding supporting cast & you know what happens every year regardless, AFC championship game or superbowl

[@KevonDaDon]

Exactly mfs always ready every year to crown sb else and then January rolls around.

[@muskyoxes]

Saw a video saying Mahomes should be considered one of the people like Brady and Manning who won super bowls on two different teams because Kelce and Jones are the only players who have been on the Chiefs during his whole run

[@almonjoseph4382]

How they constantly call burrow the 2nd best qb but he can miss the playoffs with no backlash ? 🤣

[@terribleatchess]

he made a super bowl thats why

[@FrescoRahbo]

@@terribleatchessRex Grossman made it to the Super Bowl.

[@kevonsidek9737]

@@FrescoRahbo dilfer and jimmy g did too

[@FrescoRahbo]

@ Exactly. That Super Bowl APPEARANCE is subjective

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

Most people have him at 4

[@Robshere27]

In my opinion, Patrick Mahomes, until he's dethroned, (with a magnificent 15-1 season) is the best quarterback in the NFL

[@jeremyrivens2867]

That’s a lie it’s not always about that in a team sport he is no longer the best player in football it’s clear as day lamar is the best player in football and it’s not even close

[@jakieresykes3644]

@@jeremyrivens2867No he’s not Lamar underperforms In the playoffs

[@Markell1]

​@@jeremyrivens28673 SBs, 3 SB MVPs, 2 MVPs, 4 SB appearance's 15-3 in the playoffs vs 2 MVPs, 2-4 in the playoffs. Knock it off G you lie to yourself you lie to whoever.

[@onewinaday7495]

​@@jeremyrivens2867 bro stop

[@joesmoe3096]

@@jeremyrivens2867 🤣🤣🤣👋

[@JamesKennedy-t9h]

Bills and Bengals fans think just because they have top 5 QBs that they're owed a Super Bowl Championship.. Don't they know that you have to fight, for your right, to party! 😅

[@jaaymurray3608]

My dad used to always say, “If you really want it, you gotta go Beastie Boys mode” and we knew what he meant

[@JCDonkykong]

The Chiefs were without WR1, WR2, WR4, WR5, RB1, RB3, has no left tackle, and has a right tackle who's the 2nd most penalized player in the league. Somehow, no one has better 3rd down, 4th down, or 4th quarter stats than Mahomes and he has the most game winning drives this season. The Chiefs are 15-1, have played the most playoff teams, and have the best record against playoff teams. Yet, the Chiefs aren't in the top 5 of most pro bowlers, Andy Reid won't be AP's coach of the year, and Mahomes doesn't make Pro Bowl.

[@rcdesigns]

Ridiculous. Honestly, thanks for the SB. Mahomes isn't losing now 💀

[@Independent365]

Refs

[@xavierdavidson5089]

Is that you Nick Wright?

[@kwoylee5617]

100% The fact that Andy isn't frontrunner for coach of the year with a 15-1 record and half the team out with injuries... Ridiculous.

[@joesmoe3096]

@@xavierdavidson5089 is that you rat?

[@kingcaesar4817]

JJ cooked using the Hurts argument

[@savvonweston4915]

No he contradicted himself lol, imma JJ fan but he made a case for hurts that went against lamar and Josh who he was making a case for. Chase was comparing Josh, lamar, and burrow cause they are special qbs but JJ praised hurts for doing something that those guys didn't (for lamar and Josh it reaching the superbowl, for burrow it's consistent playoffs births)

[@lilchuccydadon]

Facts

[@kingcaesar4817]

@savvonweston4915 no he didn't, when he did the hurts argument that was a shot directly at chase and how he criticize hurts. So basically he telling chase since that's the argument you using and standing on , you better never let me hear you not name Hurts in your top 5.

[@dantebennett9619]

About time

[@williamblackfyre4866]

​@@savvonweston4915Not at all, he actually pointed out Chase's contradiction as he is always criticizing Hurts. But he wants to use a SB run from 3 years ago to put Burrows in this top tier because Allen and Lamar havent done it. Well Hurts did and he wins alot more than Burrows. And James said if that is your criteria, dont let me ever let you leave Hurts out of that top tier. He caught Chase trying to bend his argument to suit what Joe has done vs what others havent...while the QB Chase critizes the most has done the exact same thing, doesnt get hurt, and hasnt missed the playoffs once.

[@Dannycuddy]

I’m sorry, but in this era with an EXTRA playoff spot available, you can’t miss the playoffs twice in a row and still be talked about as maybe best QB in football. Some of yall have this dude so overrated by his weapons and 1 flukey playoff run 3 years ago. Dude is QB4 at best, and it’s a distant 4th behind Mahomes, Lamar, and Allen

[@Curiousaardvark6]

Lol yup people will blame the defense like we haven’t seen QBs drag worse defenses to the playoffs. Not to mention how the defense is what carried that one playoff run lol

[@dniques328]

He didn’t play for the 2nd half of the season last year

[@AdonisButlerOfficial]

So even if the Super Bowl run was “fluke” ( best mahones in arrowhead), he still went to the afc championship the next year. lol every year he has been healthy he made the playoffs, and preformed better than everyone except mahomes. Yeah it’s a down year, but not because of burrows play. He is balling individually, they just had a bad start to the szn and it’s gonna cost em the playoffs. Judging burrow off one season, whiles statistically great is just being a hater. Being injury prone is the only real knock on em

[@Dannycuddy]

@@dniques328the bengals were 5-5 with Joe Burrow, 4-3 with his backup. This year they’re 8-8 with Joe burrow. Thats 1.5 seasons of straight .500 football, while his backup won slightly more. Weak excuse

[@shawnsmith4113]

@@dniques328 fair point but they also didn't have a winning record before he was injured

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Chase: “It’s different” James: “How is it different? Because Burrow can throw a better ball”

[@BigO631]

That was the craziest thing I heard James say 😂😂

[@williamblackfyre4866]

So throwing a pretty ball is better than winning?

[@BigO631]

@@williamblackfyre4866 he’s a quarterback. A better ball means more accurate lmao

[@Rex_kwon_do2113]

Chase will never like hurts. He’s biased against the eagles cuz they started wentz then cut him 😂

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Next week they will be debating all time great qb’s and you will hear James jones say, “you think that dude throws a better ball than Aaron Rodgers?!” Lol

[@DonMac4]

James one of the best football analyst on tv rn.

[@jahrrigreen4150]

Bruh I give up, everybody that’s not name Lamar will guarantee gets a pass no matter what…. And to “shady”, it’s crazy work🥵

[@jahrriwright1706]

I swear I was just about to comment the same thing

[@illumenati3872]

Bro, you took the words right out of my mouth

[@Blackman4Blacks]

That part

[@Kris-krss]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@KeithBernard-w5z]

It’s because he’s black

[@kghd2647]

Chase giving a pass like this to Burrow is hilarious. But I'm not surprised.

[@legitdragon6202]

List of QBs Burrow has heroically overcome/outdueled this season - Andy Dalton, Daniel Jones, DeShaun/DTR/Jameis, Gardner Minshew/Desmond Ridder, Cooper Rush, Mason Rudolph, Bo Nix

[@canesworld5555]

😂😂😂

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

He played far better than Mahomes when they played. Burrow 250 2 tds without Higgins. Mahomes 150 1 td and 2 ints. It’s almost like the rest of your team matters

[@legitdragon6202]

@@seanmunninghoff3496 don't forget the fumble that gave the Chiefs the ball back with game on the line

[@isiahnelsoniv]

@@seanmunninghoff3496 well don’t command so much of your teams salary cap

[@mattcarberry368]

people sit around talking about the greatest team sport on Earth like it's nothing but a tennis match between 2 quarterbacks yall so simple

[@Shawnkula11b]

1:09 imagine if Allen and Lamar missed 2 years ina. Row

[@williamevansjr7562]

You have a point!

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Lamar missed 2 playoffs while being injured, they counted 1 of those against Joe, so by that logic he has missed the playoffs twice

[@Lsufan-20]

NGHA Lamar missed the playoffs

[@JmacDaloc]

Lamar wouldn’t make the playoffs if he played for the bengals

[@pdog101sir]

@@JmacDaloc right

[@Roger-g3d]

None of these qb's are better than Mahomes!! "Stat us to death" but he's the chosen one!! Keep winning those 🏆🏆🏆

[@dzll]

This was the best discussion/debate this show has ever had. Props to everyone

[@kwoylee5617]

Totally agree. The whole thing was great.

[@CT-7567JS]

Thank you James! 🦅

[@30chubbs215]

He cooked them 🦅

[@joaquinsolis7071]

Mahomes makes the playoffs every year as a starter, worse result is losing in the afccg and gets criticized for his play. Joe burrow - nothing but praise 😂 no matter what happens

[@hinata365247]

💯

[@kwoylee5617]

Yep. It's crazy.

[@RageDaug]

It's not crazy. He's getting criticized for his play, because he's on track to be the GOAT and his numbers this specific year are mid. Would be like Jordan averaging 18 a game in 94. You can't be the GOAT and not have outsized expectations. Unless you want to remove his GOAT status and say he's just another pretty good QB. Let me know which narrative you want to go with.

[@harleykateman9362]

@@RageDaugcriticized for his play yet is top ten of every qb stat, has 7 game winning drives, led the league in 4th qtr qbr, team is 15-1 1st in the afc, and his best wr is a rookie and a 35 yr te…………. Cope lil boy. Mahomes is the best ever. Bout to three peat and you’ll have to cope some more

[@Jeremy-ny3wt]

@@harleykateman9362preach people hate my chiefs so bad the first thing they say is the refs just face it they are just that good just except it they did all that talking and they are 15-1 and it’s still some more stars otw back in the line up you can’t hate on greatness

[@Nick-bx6oq]

I’ve never seen a player live off ONE playoff run and done nothing since….

[@Lightskin_jhit]

These fools will always talk about burrow beating mahomes in 2021

[@easywalters]

Acho is always saying a whole bunch of nothing.

[@GPolCFA]

James Jones once again spitting facts. If we gone use the barometer of playoff wins despite not winning the big one for Burrow, then Jalen Hurts has earned top 5 consideration

[@jwash87]

It's funny how people say football is the ultimate team sport but one position gets all the credit and blame.

[@tom97009]

Because it's only "team" sport when they're favorite team or player looses

[@calinator51]

100%. This segment is braindead. Only talking about QB's and nothing else matters like how good or bad their defense is.

[@ishyameru6232]

Yeah it isn’t burrows fault he has no defense just like it wasn’t Lamar’s fault his entire team got hurt like two years in a row

[@sheltondmello8031]

​@@ishyameru6232it his fault when you put him on the level of mahomes or others like mahomes who've overcome that and won

[@TheRealSeeJ]

James had me hype. Talk to em. How we not mention Jalen and he’s been as well

[@30chubbs215]

Did he say he went to Super Bowl and almost won? Guess who else did that....Hurts. He really said, "if your take the scoreboard away" He really said, "dude he almost had them"

[@rtv2324]

Once Lamar win a Superbowl these conversations will he irrelevant. Burrow , Allen and Hurts can fight it out for 3rd. Lamar is the only QB outside Mahomes and the old QB thats a walking Hall of famer.

[@pauldavis9858]

Im not gon lie this show is FIRE 😂🔥

[@moestackz8462]

He wasn't snubb he didn't do nothing this season yall talking about what he did then not now

[@jakethethird1584]

Chase Burrow was 5-5 last year and 4-3 with Jake Browning.

[@Cgreat77]

No one talks about that right there and I wonder why because if it was Jalen hurts backup it would be front page news, when Jake browning was playing for the bengals this was his stats , he completed 70 percent of his passes and a passer rating of 99 and has 12 touchdown passes and 7 interceptions so looks like anyone can play with all that talent right lol that’s what they say about Jalen hurts come on and his record was 4-3

[@Glhodges05]

Burrow was literally hurt. 😂

[@mustermas]

@@Glhodges05can you not read comments - he literally stated the records with his backup

[@saurielbaez6415]

10:33 James hasn’t cooked like this since that Austin Rivers segment 🔥😂

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

“And at times he’s been responsible for some of the losses”💯

[@alexisandrose5435]

Yea they just gloss over that

[@dariuspaker7960]

@@alexisandrose5435I’m looking at the chiefs game

[@tajace1]

Nope he supposed to be elite

[@cjfrm3658]

Joe Burrow put them in the whole

[@blackanimelover18]

He is

[@antoniokehoe2363]

This is a tired convo... Such a dumb convo. Its clear that Burrow is one of the best QBs in the league. You can watch the games and see how he plays. There are very few QBs you can even put in that caliber. Football requires a full team, not just the QB.. gotta get off this narrative that's gone on too long. QBs don't win games alone

[@jordangriffin4517]

I mean he is…he’s 15-1 elite

[@byronsmith3152]

@@antoniokehoe2363 You mean like he played vs New England? You mean likes he starts every single year? I think the kid is damn good, don't mistake what I am saying. But has Allen or Lamar had the receivers Burrow has had his entire career? Even going back to college where he had BOTH Jefferson and Chase. If Burrow is truly elite, why does he not perform when he doesn't have Chase and or Higgens?

[@BirdLives7]

Burrow starts 1-3 / 1-4 every season. The benglas need to take accountability for that.

[@toshible555]

What I like about these guys, didn’t know much about them before, is that they check themselves. They try to ask each other if they’re being consistent in their analysis. And I love they talk their real experience. Rock on guys.

[@Official.WsdSonny]

Shady and Jones 100% right JJ was on POINT with the Jhurts purdy fact

[@0624tre]

Acho: lamar stats are like that because of the weapons he has. Because of that Allen is mvp Acho: Burrow is the 2nd best ( disregarding he has the most weapons on offense ) with probably the best Receiver in the league 😂😂

[@Gbpackers911]

But has no run game and chase getting double teamed so it actually is impressive

[@colbyryans1018]

He has the worse of everything else his defense isn’t as good as ravens bills or chiefs , his special teams is one of the worse his o line is not the best and he has the worse coach out of McDermott , harbaugh, Andy Reid , all he got is the 2 wrs and he might only have 1 now if they can’t pay both

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

And by far the worst oline and defense

[@0wnToDead]

its crazy because last year lamar had the same receivers, all of a sudden he has "weapons". Make it make sense lol

[@0624tre]

@Gbpackers911 lmao chase rarely get doubled cause they got Higgins. U said that as if Higgins isn't also a number 1 Receiver 😂😂 he got 2 number 1s and 2 good tight ends

[@Que____G]

Burrow has the complexion for the protection, that’s ITS that’s ALL 😂 Chase needs to come out and say he likes Burrow more than the guys and prefers him cause he has no objectivity to his claims, he just moves the goal post😂

[@Phillip-py7pc]

Exactly

[@mustermas]

He has special hate for hurts and Lamar for some reason

[@Que____G]

@@mustermas they don’t have the complexion for his protection 🤣 James pointed it out with the Jalen Hurts playoffs stat. He’s extremely biased

[@S-RankGoon]

Thank goodness James Jones on the show cause he brings them back down to reality and calls out the bs

[@HocusFocus93]

Thank you JAMES! Chase’s points are so invalid it’s not even funny dude just hates Jalen Hurts, he has the same winning percentage as Mahomes but yall ain’t ready for that convo yet.

[@Ayo_Mean]

OMG JAMES ‼️💯💯💯💯💯

[@thronesofgaming5240]

Because he made it to 1 super bowl that made him the second best over Lamar and Allen is crazy. SMH

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

In that case, Jared Goff and Jimmy G are better than Lamar and Allen because they have been to a Super Bowl.

[@kiddgoldson]

He’s the only that beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoff. Josh and Lamar couldn’t do it

[@aroperdope]

​@@kiddgoldsonThey don't hang banners for beating one quarterback in the playoffs

[@flash012234]

@@aroperdopeNone of the three have a banner so this is the distinction

[@jctslice]

​@@flash012234 simple

[@brandonwilliams1164]

I truly believe Pat Mahomes isn't worried about the Pro Bowl. He is focused on the Super Bowl and winning it.

[@MrAllenVII]

He's focused on winning the SB every year. We have proof that he's petty, he wants to be the best ever. This will add fuel to his fire no doubt about it.

[@myhoodiskc]

As a chiefs fan. It doesn't seem like he was snubbed but Mcduffie definitely was.

[@quizewalker7936]

Yea facts. He and GK

[@Seanksb]

The lack of pro bowls for Chiefs players is ridiculous. They are 15-1 for a reason

[@quizewalker7936]

@@Seanksb right as bad as people say the oline was 3 made it. This Defense has been constantly good all year. McDuffie has play at a high level all year. GK has been good all year. The votes are a joke

[@boogster9526]

15-1 he definitely got snubbed

[@tigera6]

I am more mad at how did Kelce make the list? His stats is mediocre this year, 3TD and catch rate at 72% and still make the ProBowl

[@ITACHI-hr8eu]

Burrow without two elite wrs and a solid te he's literally buns.. yall overrate this kid because he beat Mahomes 1 time 4 years ago.. gtfoh!

[@jctslice]

No one else has done it. Until someone else beats Mahomes, JB will get that grace

[@Keion973]

@@jctslicenah bro it’s called making excuses for him.Cant keep living off a 4 year old game now it’s a what have you done for me lately league🤷🏿‍♂️Not to mention burrow is 1-6 against lamar when lamar is healthy burrow can’t beat him.The only times burrow made it far in the postseason was 2021 and 2022 you wanna know why lamar was injured💯

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Yea Lamar gets credit for beating an awful bengals defense when the bengals put up the 2 highest point totals on the ravens all year. Lamar feasted on a terrible defense why burrow actually destroyed a decent one. Bengals have given up38 to commanders , 37 to eagles, 44 to the freaking Steelers. I think the bucs scored 30 exactly on the ravens, no team has scored more than that, and the bengals scored 38 and 34. Lamar torched a defense that everybody does, burrow was torching a defense more than any other dude in the league has.

[@lizethreyes8089]

Could you imagine saying “Hey I know you’ve won 15 games but this guys more valuable than you because he’s thrown more touchdowns” MVPAT

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Bengals would not have won 1 game without burrow. These dudes are insane

[@legitdragon6202]

You think they couldn't beat the Giants, Raiders, Browns, Panthers, Cowboys, Titans with Jake Browning? Probably would win most of those actually

[@kevonsidek9737]

You saying that but what type of qb are you replacing him with? Yeah sure with a trent dilfer type qb they wouldn’t have won a game but with a lamar, josh or mahomes type qb the bengals would’ve easily won at least 11 games with a playoff spot guaranteed

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Nope

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Oline ranked 30th I. Pass blocking 29th in run blocking

[@darriuss4574]

They proved they could last year when Burrow got hurt. The backup played just as good.

[@DebraDennill]

Disrespectful to Mahomes! 😂 but wait the Super Bowl is around the corner!!!!’ Mahomes will be respected after he wins the 2025. Superbowl

[@StreetzOfAtlanta]

Joe Burrow is living off one bad half of football by Mahomes other than that Joe Burrow is an average good quarterback. Tell me different.

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Outplayed Mahomes in every matchup they have had except 1. Go look up the numbers, it’s indisputable my guy

[@StreetzOfAtlanta]

@@seanmunninghoff3496 3 Superbowls, 2 league MVPS, 3 Superbowl MVPS, Borrow has nothing.....so yes, you are right, its indisputable my guy....

[@mikesanders]

2 of KCs win come from the referees

[@StreetzOfAtlanta]

@@mikesanders oh boy...you lost me there!

[@SlimeNews]

Definitely overrated

[@BLACKSTONEPOET]

Dayum JJ!!!! dude spitn 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@Anthonyspeaks91]

Preach James jones, this is your show 💯

[@keithwatkins4352]

Thank you James 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@montrealbates281]

Mannn I wish chase daniels was my homeboy i know he gon always have my back😂💯

[@SILLYKICKS]

you need friends dawg

[@tom97009]

​@@SILLYKICKSexactly lol pathetic.

[@montrealbates281]

@ it taste good? Make sure u zip my shii up when u done

[@mikearthur7931]

I love the heat in this episode!!!!!!

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Chase, about the 5-2 playoff record, remember that the Bengals kicker won them two of those playoff games and defense.

[@jctslice]

Excuses

[@xeethagladfelter4136]

These guys are tripping. It's the organization, see Kansas City. Burrow only QB to beat Holmes in Kansas City. Allen and Jackson have the 900 pound gorilla on their backs; do not forget about their head coaches too, see buffalo coach. Feel me big dogs. QBs like their head coaches are the core, who's hot at the end and with better organization. Drop the mic

[@PrinceOntopEnt]

THEY HAD A WINNING RECORD WITHOUT JOE BURROW LAST YEAR

[@JamesKennedy-t9h]

Lucky for Burrow, Allen and Jackson that they'll be available to actually play in the pro-bowl game! 😅

[@lc1732]

Amen! Shady and James!!! People always moving the goal posts!

[@justsaying5633]

I love these guys 🤣🤣🤣

[@kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589]

Shady was hating on Joe back then ,;what’s the point 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@GregCox1552]

He has no choice. Next year begins now take care of your business and don't wait until Dec to start

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

They won’t admit the games that Joe Burrow and the offense cost them.

[@bigruck24]

11:00 if Joe burrow was black and missing the playoffs this wouldn’t be a conversation

[@williambreeze2659]

No more excuses for Joe!

[@duleeyfitnesslife]

16:24 I love Next Friday and today it’s Friday that JJ used that analogy 🙏🏾

[@ne0n1nja247]

I like Burrow but saying hes 5-2 in the playoffs and 3 of those came 4 years ago means hes only won 2 games in the playoffs since then. People talk about bad records in the playoffs but legit would you rather them not go to the playoffs then lose round 1? Should we add a new number to the end of these playoff records to show when you miss the playoffs?

[@scottyc9917]

Goal post be moving it’s crazy

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

The 2 games he won since are Lamar’s total playoff wins 😳

[@DaKiDDKAYC]

@@seanmunninghoff3496 At least we can trust Lamar to make the playoff. Can't say the same for ya boy, Its been YEARS .🤣

[@jctslice]

​@@DaKiDDKAYC he chokes when he makes it

[@DaKiDDKAYC]

@@jctslice I rather watch my team in the playoffs because at least there’s always a chance rather than my team watch others from the coach lmao

[@kingjonesiii6832]

How does this show have 2.6m subscribers….i never wanna see this collection of gentlemen do anything together… especially Acho.

[@thronesofgaming5240]

Lamar got those MVP without having weapon Joe always had weapons and Mahomes got his second mvp without weapons and now J. Allen bout to win an MVP without top tier weapon and great info from James about Hurt.

[@jeremyrivens2867]

Pat had weapons that’s a damn lie

[@mikesanders]

Lamar and Mahomes have best field goal kickers in the league

[@SlimeNews]

Allen is overrated and shouldn't win MVP. His rating tells u so. U can't have 6 totals TDs in a game and lose

[@N7Null]

Patrick Mahomes will remember that.

[@atquinn1975]

Mahomes is Jordan level at this point. Lesser players can count pro bowls and MVPs. All-timers count Superbowl MVPs.

[@Independent365]

No he isnt😂😂. Dude has been carried by defense last 2 years. That ain't like jordan

[@sheltondmello8031]

​@@Independent365"carried" when he still had the best stats in the playoffs huh. Him and Brady are just different. Just like jordan

[@BryantBrady-xy4yv]

Get off your knees. Jordan never lost in the finals. Mahomes has already lost. Hes number 5 at best all time

[@jimhicks4188]

When he has 8 rings I will gladly call him the goat. Until then Brady the goat.

[@joesmoe3096]

@@BryantBrady-xy4yv Jordan lost plenty of times in the playoffs you lying rat

[@rocky123b6]

But seriously, yall don't see what Chase be doing??

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

They won’t talk about that 2021 Super Bowl that the kicker and defense were the main reasons why they won.

[@keithwatkins4352]

Chase is full of it 😂😂😂😂😂.

[@plugcap2604]

We need more Mahome stories 😂

[@muskyoxes]

Now that he's done with preseason, we'll get some

[@plugcap2604]

@ not , stories about him bts

[@chachi3675]

The issue is the ravens having 9 pro bowl players when they dont have anyone besides jackson and henry .. so im confused

[@co-opbeats2211]

Gotta see him play without his college receiver whos arguably the best receiver in the NFL and T Higgins another #1 receiver on a lot of teams .

[@FaceFamous]

No you don't. Why yall so hung up on Qbs needing to do things without their weapons that's the dumbest argument ever

[@Folds2008]

You could say the same things about Mahomes. Let’s see him without the best coach, best defensive coach, best tight end, best DE, etc. Your argument is insane

[@kevinmedina968]

@@Folds2008bro what burrow has 2 wr 1 kelce is old Mahomes is gon be fine when he retires 😂

[@joshhudson282]

@@FaceFamousno it ain’t smart guy. Give MaHomeboy the 49ers weapons. What you think will happen? Give him Jalen Waddle and Tyreek hill. Give him Jamar and Tee, what you think he do? Weapons matter Now switch it and give those other QBs the weapons Mahomes has and none of them are 11-1. Weapons matter

[@stevenh3508]

​​​@@Folds2008how many SBs did any of them win without pat again? How many did any of them even get to? How many coach of the year awards has Reid got? Prior to Pat how many of them were even ose to being considered the best at their positions? Oh thats right, not one of them. Any other excuse idiot? Burrow has been carried his entire college and pro career by the best weapons in the league and still has nothing to show for it 😂😂😂 mahomes won a SB with a bottom ranked defense, then won a SB after losing his only WR1 and a bottom ranked defense, then won another SB with a bunch of cast off receivers that couldn't make any other teams rosters after finally getting a good defense and now on his way to a 3 peat after losing his 1,2,4, and 5 WRs, 1 and 3RB and having the worst tackles in the league. Why do you idiots continue to make excuses for your QBs doing less with more???

[@isaacbermudezdaywe2272]

Acho is the best! He knows the right questions needed to be asked

[@FaceFamous]

Acho cant afford to miss the barber anymore😮 he got alot going on with his hair😂

[@GarageDoorSports]

13:50 James cooked with that Jalen Hurts take

[@FaceFamous]

Joe cant make the defense play any better. He puts up the numbers and all that. But im not dropping the tiers on him if he dont make it. Joe can only control the offense and they need a better running game

[@crunchtime91]

Excuses because if they was winning he would get praised.

[@kevonsidek9737]

Yeah but I never heard these excuses for drew brees

[@LooterMonty]

This is actually insane. I don’t wanna hear nothing else about 2-4 in the playoffs since now it’s ok to just miss them altogether👌🏾

[@illku209able]

If he’s the best player in the world as they say why is he missing… Elite QBs drag him defenses to the playoffs every year…

[@Surinder1964]

Like Lamar Jackson 😅😂

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

No one says he's the best.

[@illku209able]

@@HockeyDudeJames2 you haven’t been listening

[@davidberry777]

Andy Reid: AP Coach of the Year Franchise record 15 (16?)-win season. 9th Straight AFC West Banners 299 career wins (300 if the Chiefs beat the Broncos) 143 wins with Chiefs (12-win regular season average over 12 seasons with a win vs Broncos) Never recognized as AP Coach of the Year as the Chiefs' head coach Put his team in position to play in their 7th STRAIGHT AFC Championship Game, win a 5th Lamar Hunt Trophy, a 3rd straight Lombardi Trophy, and a 4th Lombardi in the last 6 years.

[@FrescoRahbo]

Acho maybe you were just wrong? Joe ain’t never been the 2nd best qb.

[@FaceFamous]

He literally said for HIM..he has joe as the second best. His opinion. You have yours. Funny how yall want people to have the same list as yall like you know everyone won't have the same list or order of the list.

[@FrescoRahbo]

@ …. Okay… but his opinion is wrong.🤷🏾‍♂️

[@SlimeNews]

Burrow is so overrated

[@tyreecobb6222]

This one was fire 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@Mojo32880]

Bengals have the 8th ranked offense in the league…but, the 27th ranked defense….I’m not even a Burrow fan, but what are these dudes talking about?

[@King_Glo1017]

They can't score either ...that's why they suck this year ...they only have Jamar Chase and that's literally it .chase was just named pro bowl they need a better RB and more WR weapons to even get back to where they was

[@Mojo32880]

@@King_Glo1017 They’re averaging 28.3 points a game…6th in the NFL

[@israellongoria797]

I agree with what James Jones said about putting Jalen and Brock in that list. Jalen hasn't missed the playoffs and has gone to a Super Bowl and Purdy missed the playoffs once but has gone to 2 championship games and a super bowl. We can't nitpick and move goal posts because of how pretty a guy throws the ball. I think this conversation should be had after next season if Joe misses the playoffs again

[@ninersforlife7682]

Patrick is one of the Best to play but the Pro Bowl is based on the current season not anyone's whole career. Montana Brady Rice and Lewis never made it every year and that doesn't mean the guys that made it over them those years were better or had better careers 😁😁

[@kiddgoldson]

Thank u, say it again

[@tigera6]

Well, I dont think any of those guys miss the ProBowl when their team is the No.1 seed with 13-3 record or better.

[@ninersforlife7682]

@@tigera6 so does that mean you think a back up TE who never played a game this year should make the Pro Bowl because he is on a team that is 15-1? 😁😁

[@tigera6]

@@ninersforlife7682 Not backup, but the STARTING QB, nice try to mis-lead my comment.

[@ninersforlife7682]

@@tigera6 that is not how it work's. Pro Bowl is a individual award not a team award. The TE from the Raiders made the Pro Bowl and his team is 4-12 😁😁

[@Brent-l8m]

JJ dead wrong for this one. The fact that pat has 3 pro bowl lineman IS the reason he got overlooked!!! Burrow o line JUST as bad as his defense. Watch the tape!!! If Joe was drafted to KC he'd have at least 3 Lombardis by now & real ones know

[@marquistemason5684]

Joe is awesome. But Bengals weren’t in contention last year before he got injured, and then JAKE BROWNING came in and had them fighting for a spot. Ravens, Bills, and Chiefs always in contention for #1 seed. Last 6 years it’s either been the Ravens or the Chiefs for #1 seed. Even on that SB run, Burrow gets the credit, but that Defense is what beat Patrick Mahomes and carried.