Can CHRIS CHAN Recognize an Advertisement? Is Chris a Real Writer?

[@Roboshi2007]

Chris is like those kids who watch too much KZbin and think "like and subscribe" is the same as "good bye", he's been raised by TV and mainly cartoons leading to him thinking that just what communication is.

[@nym2717]

im going to start telling people to like and subscribe instead of saying goodbye now jk lol

[@BiohazardCrow]

@@nym2717 No. I just say it to a 60 yrs old woman and she kiss me and invite me to a date. :/

[@Roboshi2007]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 TV turned chis into a consumer who never knew when to stop, but then barb was there to enable that behaviour

[@dickkickem8424]

Are kids like that now days?

[@Roboshi2007]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 to be fair I was over simplifying, Chris never fully took in the positive messages in cartoons even if he will repeat them, but the lesson he did take in was "buy our toys". Barb and Bob both let him live as a child and that was fake friends, cartoons and toys with no responsibility.

[@SeanyBravad0]

I actually noticed when watching Geno's videos that Chris Chan acts and has a thought process a lot like my 6 year old daughter's.

[@nukiradio]

Except your daughter will grow out of it in a year

[@brandonr.8696]

I've noticed the same thing with his speech pattern, attitude reactions and my 5 year old daughter

[@gutsFunnyman]

If you don't mind me asking, how so?

[@chimpkinglich1637]

I was thinking the same thing, every time I see my nephews somehow my mind immediately goes to Chris chan, to the point where they defend cartoons in the exact same way

[@brandonr.8696]

@@gutsFunnyman tone wise, especially if she's complaining about something

[@richardmattocks]

I think Chris puts the adverts in because when he watches tv he just sees the fact that there are moments where a “celebrity” breaks the 4th wall and says something about a product, so he writes his character breaking the 4th wall saying something about a product. He’s putting it in because he thinks “that’s what a comic has” It’s there “because that’s what you do”.

[@Hammerhead547]

i don't think his "ad's" have so much to do with his preferred brands as it does his desire to proclaim his brand loyalty to them.

[@HaxAras]

I thought the same thing. Comics on store shelves have ads, so he probably thought his needed them too. Even if he didn't understand why they were there. He probably thought it was the comic maker promoting things they liked, so he had to promote shit he liked or resonated with.

[@Jesus-H.-Christ]

I feel like GiBi just made this video to rub the fact that he has a Lego Hogwarts Castle in our faces...

[@Solanin0803]

My sister has that, too. Not the whole thing though

[@LucySteed]

im shaking and crying

[@sketchpen777]

Soo Jesus i would have thought ur middle inital would be an F instead of a H

[@nano-ep9ih]

why u give me your toughest battles, Jeeburs man? :( rude

[@Jesus-H.-Christ]

@@sketchpen777 Nope, my middle name is Harold, as in the prayer "Harold be thy name"

[@chelledoggo]

Gibi: [makes an in-depth hour-long video essay about Chris's perception of advertising and writing ability] me: hehe march twenty-tooth

[@surpriseraisin5892]

I think Chris understands what an advertisement is, however I feel like being advertised to is a very exciting thing to him. When he advertises something he gets quite animated and excited, he does squeaky voices and plays with toys and/or has humorous music playing, you can see him light up. When you think about how many giant sets of toys, legos, figures etc he's bought over the years, I think what must happen is he's watching his shows and ads come on, he's already in a good mood, and suddenly he's shown this huge amazing thing that he REALLY wants. Because he has a past of actually buying the things he wants (or getting them 'donated') the rush that he must get when he thinks there's a very real chance he can buy it must be insane. The excitement for a product is one of the strongest driving forces I've seen in his life - He'll suddenly offer services, make art, go through what he can sell, get Barb to make a sad plea for help or just beg himself to get some money, usually under the guise of an emergency.

[@itsalovelyday4354]

I think that he was poorly socialized and it was supplemented with tv. He probably understands that he’s been advised to but he doesn’t recognize that it’s not part of a normal conversation since he mostly references tv on how to speak and act like when he dramatically takes off his glasses or how his movements are cartoonishly exaggerated in his videos. He just thinks that’s how you recommend something.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

What a lot of people, including those who hate on Chris for his/her actions, fail to understand is that due to whatever other mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed, Chris understands & percieves things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that he/she has certain problems and has delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of him/her fingering his/her former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child. Maybe, even a 6-year-old child. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education he/she needed as a child, and all of the trolling towards him/her have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is he/her having consistent psychiatric treatment.

[@eustacebagge5873]

Idk what’s crazier: - Chris Chan in general - Christorians recording their existence - Jacob Sockness in general -Chris Chan and Jacob Sockness as a unity - Chris Chan’s trolls whom enjoyed bullying him - the idea Chris Chan is pushing 40 years old and may be living a full life because of Christorians trolls, crazies and white knights that makes it all seem medieval

[@Raven_Redacted]

The answer is yes

[@HeavyMetalBeliever]

It's all crazy.

[@teh_supar_hackr]

Me nether, best situation you can be in in all this is to just watch from a safe distance.

[@11Survivor]

@@Optimegatrongodzilla You put it beautifully. I think the main difference between us high-functioning autists and Chris Chan, is the fact that most of us possess self-awareness. We make silly mistakes because we don't think the same way, but we realise that it is a mistake: so then we try to fix it. Chris Chan doesn't try to fix it, and doesn't seem to even realise it is a mistake.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

@@11Survivor Exactly!

[@226amw]

The basic issue now is Chris has been lied to so much that his view of fantasy and reality have been blurred. I work with a few people who are in Chris’s mindset that think the movie Titanic, while based on a real event, think that Rose and Jack were very much real and the necklace is at the Titanic sight. You can explain over and over that these things aren’t real and show them the fact but they’ll fall back to the idea they originally had. Chris at some point yes, knew the difference between reality with advertising because we see that when he won the contest so many years ago, but now because of his mental state appearing worse, people have taken advantage of this and now he believes fantasy and reality are one and the same.

[@robertcasey9343]

This style of filming reminds me of listening to your stoner friend's tangents, and I absolutely love it.

[@supercharliegalaxy]

Yeah...well in my case I AM the stoner friend XD

[@citizenvulpes4562]

I'd be in the room brainstorming with him bro.

[@YourFriendlyOnlineStranger]

Personally, I've always thought that Chris viewed brands as his "friends," rather than a company that is merely trying to sell him something. Consider how he'd purchased anything he could get his hands on from video game brands he likes, even DLCs for games he didn't have. It reminds me of someone doing something to support a friend, if that makes sense.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

It's not uncommon for people on the spectrum to struggle with telling the difference between what's real and what's fake, it's why Chris has and will always continue to fall for trolls too. I think the fault (like so many other faults) lie with Bob and Barb not having a more structured system within and outside of school. I don't want to say they gave up on him, because I know Bob did make an effort, but at his age and with his health, of course he could only do so much. Another thing too, is he's been eating garbage and living in moldy houses with god knows how much animal waste for almost 40 years. Even a neurotypical person's mind would unravel under those conditions.

[@Ludicrous-Mouse]

This reminds me of that Roger Ebert review of Battlefield Earth where he says “ The director, Roger Christian, has learned from better films that directors sometimes tilt their cameras, but he has not learned why.” Chris just sees things and knows that’s the way it goes but he doesn’t get why it does.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

What a lot of people, including those who hate on Chris for his/her actions, fail to understand is that due to whatever other mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed, Chris understands & percieves things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that he/she has certain problems and has delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of him/her fingering his/her former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child. Maybe, even a 6-year-old child. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education he/she needed as a child, and all of the trolling towards him/her have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is he/her having consistent psychiatric treatment.

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

There's some old episodes of Beavis and Butthead that start out with them watching some random stuff on TV, then going out and imitate it while emulate things that were said on the program, although slightly incorrectly because they have no idea what it even meant. That's pretty much the vibe I get from Chris.

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

Now that's not a fair comparison, I meant just the same principle. Obviously Beavis is way smarter, more attractive and less grody than Chris is.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

@@MariaIsabellaZNN Grody?

[@KarlaHolland]

​@@Optimegatrongodzilla80s and 90s slang for "gross"

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

@@KarlaHolland Thank you.

[@AxelSpott]

Chris is a comic book writer in the same sense that building a soap box derby car in your yard makes you a car manufacturer

[@zackakai5173]

I think Chris can recognize the *pattern* of what an ad sounds or reads like, just like how Chris can recognize the *pattern* of what a Family Guy cutaway gag sounds like. That isn't necessarily the same thing as being able to understand what contexts it's appropriate to actually use an advertisement in, much less that the information in an ad is designed to sell the product rather than to be a factually accurate description of the product.

[@TJbutLag]

I mean, at about 5:58, a counter claim could be he doesn't actually know advertising vs story, he's just used to seeing them in comics so he puts them in his because he thinks he's supposed to

[@aaronstepien2363]

that was the impression I always got

[@bonecanoe86]

When I was a kid I drew a comic book and put fake advertisements in it to make it feel more like a real comic book. Granted, I was TEN.

[@wolfclaw719]

if our bodies are our advertisement I think I need to speak with my PR department

[@dombjomb]

I’m glad that now we see Chris Chan as someone to study and think about rather than use for cheap laughs. In this way, we’re actually gaining useful information from them and are learning new things.

[@Misty25939]

I was never in it to laugh at Chris Chan. It was mostly just because his documentaries were so interesting.

[@commcrimson9999]

@@Misty25939 I was in it to laugh at the losers I’m gonna troll him soon

[@snooganslestat2030]

@@Optimegatrongodzilla As someone with complex mental health issues I wanted to say what a good post this is.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

@@snooganslestat2030 Thank you.

[@gloomcookie1709]

I think Chris put 'ads' in the comics because actual, published comics have ads, and he probably thought his comic was suppose to have ads, and those were just some he knew and liked. As for the Twitter posts, it seems like he believe he has a bigger fan base than he does, and are telling them to watch this episode because he likes it, so his fan base, of course, will too. It really seems like he sees ads as things people like and are showing to others, not as something they are trying to sell.

[@Atomic_bombs]

you put my thoughts into words lol

[@1Hol1Tiger]

On the Cwcipedia he used to run he randomly put up ads for coca cola despite not selling ad space nor being approached by anyone. He seems to think ads by themselves are inherently artistic and entertaining

[@rickjohnson1719]

I like how this slowly devolved into a minor existential crisis

[@ronnie8984]

This reminds me of a researcher talking through their half-finished theory to their dead-eyed teacher’s-aid

[@jackblack3718]

I actually have what I think is an interesting take on this. I think Chris can tell the difference (or at least could, I can't speak to his mental state now after how badly his sanity has diminished) and knows what he's doing when he puts fake ads in Sonichu. You hear people in the Vaporwave community talk about "aesthetic" a lot, and the way they use it they mean using imagery and recognizable iconography to emulate and evoke the emotions and memories associated with certain time periods, a culture or something similar to that. This kind of thing is actually much older than Vaporwave. You see throwback movies and tributes to genres/styles as far back as the 1970s, and maybe even further. It's kind of the same idea behind a renaissance fair, where you're feeling like your in a simulation of a certain time or a certain feeling. This is why Chris put ads in Sonichu even though he wasn't selling anything, and I suspect why he talks like an advertisement sometimes. He might not even be conciously aware he's doing it, but he's doing the same thing those artists are doing: he's evoking a certain aesthetic, creating an artistic expression meant to give you the same emotion/feeling that reading an old 90s comic book or Saturday morning cartoon would. While Chris definitely struggles with taking things literally and seperating fantasy from reality, I think in this case he's a bit more clever than you're giving him credit for. So that's my take on it: maybe the reason he talks like a commercial is because talking that way is soothing or comfortable to him, and he knows he's doing it.

[@Carnyzzle]

Still waiting for the day that a Sonichu comic starts out with a NordVPN ad

[@escondidah.s2325]

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[@OliveGarden420]

Dude I liked this style of video for you! I think you’ve got a good cadence for it and it’s pretty fluid.

[@alexradice8163]

I think it is objectively not fluid at all. I kinda wanted to comment and say I think this format kinda sucks imo

[@OliveGarden420]

@@alexradice8163 I think his editing could have done better but I’m saying that the way he talks to the camera is fluid. He has a pretty good handle at speaking in front of the camera.

[@BT-su1yf]

"Got Milk? is an American advertising campaign encouraging the consumption of milk, which was created by the advertising agency Goodby Silverstein & Partners for the California Milk Processor Board in 1993, and was later licensed for use by milk processors and dairy farmers."

[@AgentOfShockUranus]

I think the real key factor with the advertisements in the Sonichu comics is that he's not approaching them as advertisements but as a form of coding. 90s and early 00s comics had tons of adverts for the Got Milk campaign. By emulating the advertisements he's focusing on the key factors that he recognizes as comic books. That's why that specific campaign feels out of place because it doesn't reflect his personal viewpoints, it reflects the identity of the medium he's emulating.

[@oystersoup3434]

I love this kind of long-form content. This was full of interesting Chris insight that I hadn't thought of before. I hope we get to see more in the future. Him not understanding marketing/advertising would make sense, given that he's barely profited off his image after all these years.

[@JaxonHaxon]

This is the level of philosophical psychoanalysis that I'm subbed for, this is dank af.

[@JaxonHaxon]

The word is susceptible, he's susceptible to advertising, subliminal, liminal and superliminal messaging. I think an argument to be made for his approach to advertisement is mostly found in his begging videos and plugs for his shit on ebay etc. I think he knows in that instance. I guess there is a line that he found it through a weird conditioning method, he does it, gets money.

[@taraschumacker]

Where’d you get the Bob Barker mic? I’m waiting for you to tell me to “Come on down!’

[@zackakai5173]

I just noticed the LEGO Hogwarts model in the background is missing a sand green 1x2 sloped brick over the front door and now you can't unsee it either

[@shaylynsilva9365]

I think Chris doesn't understand more sophisticated forms of ads. Like he and Barb did fall into an MLM (Cutco) and he reasonably doesn't understand subliminal messaging.

[@Flora_Dawn]

As an autistic person I can say it’s true. I’m 20 years old but I feel I’m mentally 14/15. I’ll be honest... I’m always scared of becoming a Chris Chan. Sorry I’ll shut up now XD.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

If you're aware of your own strengths and weaknesses though, you're already miles ahead of Chris.

[@SounnyKitty]

20 isn't too far from 15 so you probably still do immature things but don't bet yourself over it. Some people worry that enjoying things from childhood is immature. Don't worry about that either.

[@michaelrosa9593]

Could stop saying "XD"

[@dimetime35c]

Don't worry, im 32 with ASD and I can tell you you'll still mature. My advice would be try becoming more aware of things your doing then go back and think of how you could do it differently and what would happen in the given situation if you had done it differently.

[@Onewingerdraven]

Don't worry, you won't. Just take care of yourself, both physically and mentally, and don't be to harsh on yourself. You'll be okay. 💪

[@larpdude7308]

The opening sounds like you after stayed up 24 hours and consumed 3 cups of coffee. I love it.

[@judgesaturn507]

I remember a video about Jake Paul which touches on similar themes. For the most part, kids don't understand that advertising is intended to sell a product by emphasizing its positive qualities. Chris is similar. He reads advertising as a literal description rather than something persuasive.

[@umu8912]

Imagine if modern Chris is just part 2 of “Rollin’ and Trollin’”

[@juliangonzalez7942]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 but Chris tends to spend his money on his wants first, and resorts to his donations to pay for his needs, which is why he's constantly begging for money

[@SirBoberus]

Want Woman - Chris Chan Want Money - Coca Cola Want Subscriber - GiBi

[@RavynSkye617]

"i MISS 2012 CHRIS"............ As of August 2021, that statement has aged completely well, like a fine wine. I miss literally 3 months ago Chris. In THE BEFORE TIMES, before I know the things I now know and I would literally do basically anything to erase the trauma from my mind.

[@trystanfranziskus]

Chris is generally stuck in a toddler like stage for most of his bahaviour I think he behaves exactly like toddlers I know sometimes

[@aaronstepien2363]

Maybe he is “self-aware enough” to think that he has enough recognition that one if the companies/channels/franchises will pick him up to do “promos, ad-bumpers, etc”? Naw

[@Treyway31201]

Babe, wake up, new hour long GiBi vid.

[@smokejaguar986]

Yes dear

[@Torque2100]

Here's the thing about Chris Declining mentally. I am quite certain that as the end of support from his parents has loomed Chris' mental health has rapidly declined. However, insofar as Chris believes that Sonichu is real and that he can visit CWCVille.. He's always believed that. Remember when he "summoned" Sonichu during his confrontation with Mary Lee Walsh and demanded she acknowledge him?

[@aaronstepien2363]

Deep down, he knows that it's the beginning of the end

[@nicksmith8159]

On the advertising point: Chris’s attitude with advertising reminds me of my friends and I when we were kids really into downhill skiing. We’d cover all our shit with brand stickers because that’s what the pros did! Pros had brand deals and sponsorships all over their gear and we wanted to look like them. We didn’t really get that it’s all just advertising, even if we did it didn’t matter. We were doing it to appear better/more serious/more legitimate than we really were. That’s what Chris does, place advertisements into his work to make it look more serious than it is.

[@AnimeGames16]

This was an interesting video. As somebody with Asperger's (thus much higher-functioning than Chris), I always knew the difference between what's an ad and what's not, but I understand a lot about the perspective of consuming a lot of fiction and expecting things to happen in your life (e.g. expecting a significant other to come because that's what fiction says). As an example of the latter point, there's a documentary called Life Animated which involved a young autistic man (slightly lower-functioning than Chris) that was mute as a kid and learned a lot like how to read from Disney movies. He graduates from a special school that prepares disabled adults to live on their own and maintain a job and he goes on to live with his girlfriend (also autistic) in an apartment in an assisted living community. After his brother gives him a talk about french kissing and sex his girlfriend breaks up with him because he got too touchy-feely with her. He gets upset about this because from watching Disney movies his whole life he expected her to be with him forever because many Disney movies have happily-ever-after endings once a couple kisses and falls in love. They eventually remain friends though.

[@K.Marie119]

Funniest part is that no female over the age of 14 would be attracted to the smell of Axe. My younger brother and his friends loved the stuff and I still joke that I went away to school just to get away from the stench. Edit: Umm... I think you've misunderstood the definition of a "drug" which is oddly kind of fitting for this video.

[@nym2717]

-clicks on this thinking its a gonna be a short watch= -sees the run time= Oooooh my goooood-

[@SendyTheEndless]

The term that keeps popping into my head is "Cargo cult"... Where you emulate something superficially in the hopes of sparking something genuine. Apparently derived from a story of tribesmen who tried to build airport looking things in the hopes that planes would land there and deliver/sell them stock - possibly because of an actual event that took place and the wish to bring it about again.

[@KloneOne1111]

Everything Chris has done has been a reaction to something he’s seen in some sort of media. His comics are an amalgamation of Disney stories, Japanese animation and video games. It’s why none of his stories are original and he always pulls weird tropes from other obscure media, he thinks his audience won’t notice. Chris is the omnipresent version of that kid in school who walked around telling jokes they heard from movies/shows/standup and trying to pass them off as their own.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

To be fair, every storysteller pulls from preexisting stories. It's literally impossible to create a completely original story that doesn't pull from prior material. Just look at all of the influences George Lucas had for "Star Wars". The sheer number of influences in "Star Wars" is staggering!

[@michellealdis1271]

When my autistic son was in first grade he would repeat ads verbatim for everything and try to sell me mattresses and other things no 6 year old cares about. Being naturally charming and an excellent mimic I would be caught off guard and try to reason with him like he actually understood what he was doing, but of course he didn't. To him it was just a mesmerizing experience that he wanted to emulate. He grew out of it and now understands what advertisements are and has disdain for them (as he should) but what if my son had permissive parents that bought him everything he asked for? What if he had been praised for his skill in "persuasion" and "salesmanship"? I shudder to think of all the ways things could have gone terribly wrong.

[@BaboonOnTheLine]

If there's one thing I took away from this video, it's "the council of milk makers"

[@GNKPLHM]

A non-compensated ad made without an agreement between the ad producer and the advertised company isn’t an ad, it’s a recommendation.

[@Princess_Celestia_]

24:54 I'm gonna take a crack at this. So, I can teach someone how to build a campfire and ignite that fire using flint and steel. I can show them how to do it, and then have them repeat what they saw me do and get the same results. But just because that person can now build and start a campfire using flint and steel, it doesn't mean they actually understand how it works, all they know is that if they do this, this and this, then campfire is the outcome. It's called "monkey see, monkey do". Just because Chris can make up advertisements and put them in his comics, it's doesn't mean he actually understands what advertisements are, he's just seen them in other comics, on TV, and in movies and thinks it's just something that is and that because it's something that is, it has to be in his comics as well. Like I said, it's a case of "Monkey see, Monkey do".

[@pibbanon1987]

Does Chris understand that a Marshmallow is a very squishy placebo?

[@raelogan]

Oh man, I HATED the Axe spray commercials back in the day because all the boys in school that used it would just layer it on over thier b.o funk, and I was allergic to something in the Axe spray, so I was always in a state of hayfever type daze which sucked for me

[@coconutshampoo9025]

Something I learned as an autistic via therapy and textbooks is that NDs have a hard time creating 100% original things. We can be extremely creative and talented at what we make/do, but will have a hard time coming up with new ideas. The best example I can give is the cosplay community. For all its flaws, the top dogs are almost always ND and super experimental with their costumes, but can’t seem to use their formulas on original characters. When they do dress up as OCs, they always seem to allude to their main fandom. I can say this with experience as I’m a fairly popular autistic cosplayer online who is obsessed with FNaF but can’t seem to move past it no matter how abstract my characters and Cosplays get. I see something similar with Chris, as he blatantly copies what he sees, mixes them around, and attempts to make something new. Even non Sonic based content he makes has a distinct Sega flavor to it.

[@tydavis1795]

What this comes down to (imo) is that Chris sees advertising featuring his favorite characters as a form of expanded content, and not as an interruption. Of course, it’s tough to be definitive about anything CWC-related, but I’m looking forward to hearing where you go with this.

[@bulletproofKevlar]

children can recognize commercials more so then ever, just ask my 3 year old niece that screams when a commercial ad on tv comes on and cannot skip them like youtube ads

[@Legoluigi26]

Imitating things from tv without understanding is a perfect summary of Chris's life

[@theceralbox]

I think he's just emulating comics from his youth and i think he is referencing ren and stimpy and bongo comics which parodied ads along with real ads. He might just thing its fun and enjoys ads cause its nostalgic memories

[@edwardellis4402]

That idea of Chris chan being able to pass a Turing test is fascinating

[@richardmattocks]

Love this style and format. Nice to just be able to listen and join you in the cognitive journey.

[@PedroOver9000]

Chris is the exact product of what would happen If there wasnt any regulamentations on ads. A child completely brainwashed, raised by tv, absolutely loyal to faceless brands as If they were his family.

[@enviousskatedad3712]

It seems rather unlikely that Chris has actually gone backwards as far as his actual ability to comprehend and whatnot. As silly as some of the trolling was I’m sure a lot of it was very damaging so it would be much easier for Chris to surround himself with his own fantasy world. If you’ll pay close attention Chris I’m not that different from anti social awkward people who really get into anime, video games or whatever. He’s just taking random elements of stuff he kinda likes and tries to use it in an attempt to sound smarter. The merge is almost more of a copping mechanism rather than a genuine working theory.

[@amic403]

"a parody is a romhack, running on an emulator."

[@OutrightRegent4]

Man, I wish he made more of these

[@ShyGuy83]

As fun and cheesy as commercials are, typically older ones from the days when I was a kid, most of the products I buy for myself now are usually those you don’t see advertised on television. I’ve lived through all the plastic sugar-coated nonsense of 80s and 90s and would not want to return to that world.

[@Roboshi2007]

Fun fact, the Turing test is more of a thought experiment than a real thing. It leads to questions about what makes a human brain more than just a computer and if we made fully human ai would they deserve human rights etc.

[@db1232]

Rambling in front of Legos. You're turning into Chris dude.

[@vaclavsoukup7302]

It´s infectious

[@savvymercury]

I seriously have the biggest crush on GiBi. And we all miss 2012 Chris.

[@krismaccall8056]

Chris HAS declined, no question. Really deteriorating into more delusion, which was always present. BUT, I would also say that yeah, Bob overestimated his "maturity". Chris ALWAYS had that odd cadence - seems to convey MANY thoughts, feelings, responses, etc, in sort of "triplets". There is such a format to so much of how they communicate. And it feels like... advertising - those triplets are akin to advertising copy listing qualities. It's really a part of them. (many examples, I'm not good at grabbing them off the top of my head, but so much it seems to go like ""it made me feel ____, as well as ____ and of course ____" "It crushed my soul, as well as ____, and made me _____" Not that this offers any new insight, but I often wonder, because the "advertising mindset" is legitimately such a part of them that they couldn't change it if they tried... What if Bob had not switched Chris out of Marketing and into CADD at PVCC? I know of investment firms with autistic/savant/post-mental-breakdown short-term/derivatives/tech ( i.e. complex yet very fast trades) traders who they keep on staff with some odd indulgent compensation arrangements in addition to pay (isolated office of juvenile decor, specified snacks, cartoons, collectibles - I shit you not). Could they have found a place in the advertising world coming up with copy, slogans, etc. with some firm who would tap their wording and delivery (and rework it obviously)...and do it without them being literally present for meetings of course - just for the mental health of the rest of the staff ;) Nah, who am I kidding? Still would have been too lazy even IF that perfect (for them) life presented itself...

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

Can you elaborate on those special accomodations(cartoons, snacks, etc)?

[@illeagle9560]

I'm almost certain I could tell the difference between a commercial and show when I was a child, I've hated commercials and ads my whole life.

[@PalehorseThirteen]

I think in regard to the ads in Sonichu it's all about authenticity to Chris. He sees advertisements on TV and in comics and magazines and whatnot so he sees that as part of what makes a show/comic so he includes these in Sonichu because, to him, it makes his work more authentic.

[@petercross1879]

IS THAT THE HOGWARTS CASTLE OVER YOUR FIREPLACE?!

[@Roboshi2007]

it's the great hall, the castle would never fit on a fireplace.

[@FlamingoRadio_]

Fantastic video, GiBi!

[@hansolo6831]

Drachenlord reacted to your video and had a meltdown because it wasn't him

[@dbensdrawinvids8390]

A better crossover than Infinity War.

[@thegreenbeetledrewscott9608]

I think Sonichu in Chris Chan's mind is like how Chris Chan would have created Sonic. Sometimes when we are attached to something like a cartoon character we look up to, we want to show the world how we see it, but the problem is that not everybody will understand. Chris once mentioned (in the Kasey Father call) that his father knows about copyright and says Chris is in the clear this whole time. IDK what Bob was thinking given that Sonic was never his idol as he was to his son, then again, it could be Chris talking out of his rear end. So yeah, Chris doesn't understand that Sonichu maybe his creation but it is not very creative. I'm surprised that Sega, Nintendo nor Game Freak took legal action against him let alone gave him a cease and desist letter of some sort for trying to profit off of Sonichu.

[@raoulduke8725]

Chris emulates everything cause he doesn’t understand.Its like hypothetically Bob telling Chris as a child “son I’m going to teach you to be a man”Chris can’t be taught that he can only emulate Bob. Look at older CWC stuff when he tries to be intimidating he uses Bobs expressions.Remove Bob Chris takes on Barbs traits.The only other thing he knows is cartoons so as “Sonichu” he emulates a cartoon character that just happens to be his own twisted version of a cartoon on tv,but emulated to paper.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

What a lot of people, including those who hate on Chris for his/her actions, fail to understand is that due to whatever other mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed, Chris understands & percieves things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that he/she has certain problems and has delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of him/her fingering his/her former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child. Maybe, even a 6-year-old child. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education he/she needed as a child, and all of the trolling towards him/her have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is he/her having consistent psychiatric treatment.

[@Welderborea]

I think the question went from “can Chris tell if he’s being advertised to” to “does chris know what an ad is”

[@Bulbasquirtle]

Gibi's position through the video📈📉📈📈📉📈📉📉📉📈📉📈📉📉📈📈📈📉📈📉

[@user-lt6bl2lf2i]

I love how this video is just GiBi going off on whatever pops into his brain, I support him.

[@Latransient]

I think Chris can recognize advertisements. All of us at some point have mocked a comercial by satirizing it in some way, ie the shamwow. I think it has more to do with the fact that Chris is attempting to do the same thing, but Chris isn’t funny so there’s no way of telling his jokes from straight on speech.

[@ppl6660]

imagine his family on the couch when he was recording this lol

[@plaguis1391]

If this video has taught me one thing, it's that GiBi has invented a new fetish involving Mario Kart being played on his body.

[@SuperCartoonist]

When I was a kid I never like recording commercials and I did my best at stopping the recording when there advertisement going on. When I got older I decided to continue the recordings through the commercials because I understood how historically commercials are from the pasted, because people from the future will never know what it was like in the pasted. And we are losing the 60fps in commercials because of dumbasses here on the internet that can't compromise between 59.94hz and 59.94fps interlace of video. They're all thinking 29.97fps was the only frame rate on a CRT.

[@Btmalloy]

If you study Chris you’ll notice that almost everything he says is some sort of reference to something he’s seen on TV. He quite literally learned almost everything he knows from TV.

[@caatko1388]

25:48 fucking spat my milk everywhere. Not just from the comment but the **visuals** that it brought 😭😭😭😂

[@cultof12]

GiBi, I love this video! Chris really, really likes formulas, which is why he proposes "desirable" ideas as advertisements: Axe Bodyspray, Love Quest posters, KZbin ebegging, etc. He knows that if he mimics something he likes/sees as successful, he's following a formula for success. He only sees the outcome of commercial advertisements (not understanding the science behind it) and feels that in copying them, he's able to pass along whatever message he's trying to communicate to others. But he always falls short of the goal, because the things he comes up with are out of place. He's ALWAYS trying to sell people on his ideas in everything he does--it's really apparent to me (a woman) when he communicates with women that he's trying to sell them on the idea of liking him. And there's been the argument in the LGBTQ community that he's trans because he's emulating what he desires most: women. I won't touch on that particular topic further, but it's clearly something that Christorians have noted due to his nature of needing to copy what he sees. Anyway, thanks for bringing up such a cool conversation! I can't wait to read that author's book!

[@luciuseclipse]

Chris does get something out of advertising Mr. Plow. Chris enjoys the Simpsons and would like for it to continue. For Simpsons to continue, not that it has any issue doing so, Chris knows it needs to be successful and have people continue to view it. Chris also believes he had millions of fans, so by him advertising Mr. Plow to his "millions of fans" he is supporting his future entertainment.

[@Bonebrothsoup]

Autstic person here and i would like to add something: the "mental age" thing isn't always linear or clear cut. For example someone might be able to hold conversations just fine and have high social skills, but can't do the household. For example chris can drive on his own without getting lost, but isn't able to tell reality from fiction in most cases. So it is possible that he is "16" in some areas but only the mental age of 8 in others. Me for example i am able to manage the household by myself and engage socially but i cannot drive

[@boxedfender4810]

It's the total lack of social cues....ie: most people don't have sex with their own mothers.

[@chainedlupine]

I think a better way to sum this up is to say Chris Chan is a Cargo Cultist for success in life. He wants to be a famous comic book artist/writer, but he has no desire (or know how) to increase his talent so he makes a replica of a comic book. He wants to make a game and have it be famous, so he constructs an advertisement that serves as a representation of his ideal game. He wants a faithful loving woman, so he creates idols from crayola markers and letter paper. This is of course talking about Classic Chris: Today's Christine is just flat out delusional IMHO.

[@projectfanboy]

Christ he is nearly 40? I only just found Chris and thought he was around early 20's.

[@RoninCatholic]

He was in his mid 20s when the Internet discovered him back in 2007. I've personally been involved in the Chris-Chan fan community since 2011 (shunned on the original CWCki forum, banned from Kiwi Farms, contributing minor edits to the CWCki itself, watching almost every KZbinr to extensively talk about him, making fan art, etc.) Mentally, he's in his early teens. Emotionally, he's decidedly pre-teen. Has been for this entire time, and regresses rather than progresses.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

@@RoninCatholic Actually, mentally, he's like a 7-year-old.

[@kaeyakow]

I like this type of video alot, snowed inside today with a very sick chicken. Ironically her name is Barbara (not after chris' mom but still funny, shes named after my grandma. She loves your voice so much shes so funny lol.

[@sideshowratt]

Mental age isn't really considered scientific because most people, autistic or not, have traits that are all over the age spectrum. So it's not contradictory to say Chris has some traits that are more like a 12-year-old's and some that are more like an eight-year-old. I tend to think most of her behavior DOES fit with that 12-to-13 estimate (e.g. faking multiple personalities and weird holding metaphysical beliefs - those are super common with middle schoolers, esp. autistic ones), but again, it's not a scientific measurement.

[@RoninCatholic]

Math of a twelve year old, English of a six year old, emotional reflexes of a two year old, memory of an eighty year old.

[@GameAlicornLuna]

My dude is walking around his living room with a Bob Barker microphone.

[@emmanuelmedrano6405]

Whats a bob barker microphone the one hes holding?

[@GameAlicornLuna]

@@emmanuelmedrano6405 Really thin microphone. Similar to the one Bob Barker used in the Price is Right.

[@emmanuelmedrano6405]

@@GameAlicornLuna oh aight

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

20:30 I think that's more him being extremely disappointed. I've had very similar experiences myself, and I can imagine how painful it is to look forward to something like that, only to not have it work out. It really sucks to realize that people don't want to be around you; high school was the only time Chris had friends (even if Bob did pay them off), no wonder he was looking forward to a reunion.

[@ProjectAsher1]

7:33 I personally don't think that's true, I was diagnosed with autism as a child and could not read until I was 8 but it wasn't noticeable because I used to copy information off the whiteboard during classes, I had no idea what it meant but I could mimic it that well that my parents didn't notice. I feel like Chris has no clue that hes being advertised to but can mimic it to the best of his ability. (I haven't watched ahead yet so I'm sorry if points similar to mine have been brought up)

[@ellajazz4861]

I really liked this format of video, you rambling is honestly incredibly entertaining

[@stephenstrobel9577]

this was a really fun one, i hope you do stuff like this more

[@Greedfa]

IDK Gibi remember the aspurgchu arc? Chris talked about his characters as if they were real. Also, his comics are something to go by. Like it seems he legit believed that he was something special also also..remember, old Chris ran around his room nude and..butt cake. plus he still makes his 'chris chan noises'