Can Every Support Weapon Kill Bile Titans? - Helldivers 2 Tips & Guide

[@devindoge5510]

"is it too easy to kill a bile titan now" no its not when the entire bug populace is raining down on you

[@OhDough]

it's objectively easy to kill bile titans in isolation. it's not a bad thing since they will still kill a lot of players regardless and theres a lot more going on then just killing bile titans.

[@matthewrosado1936]

​@@OhDoughit's easy but doesn't make the game easier when 4 of them spawn at the same time, but i rather die and dish out the same deadly damage, amazing patch

[@EnigmaticRonin]

Much more realistic now.

[@VadoF1]

It's the balance I liked from the first game. Almost everything can kill you very fast (or 1 shot) on high difficulties, but in turn, you can do the same thing to them.

[@Ghost_6012]

​@@EnigmaticRoninYup, and the cinematic is more accurate now.

[@spinone-d2]

It's crazy how people complain about this making the game "easier" when a third of these weapons originally could not kill - COULD NOT KILL

[@974cerebrate]

Well it is easier now. But the devs are going to add more difficulties so they will have their fun back

[@jk56]

You're not wrong, but I only play D10 and wouldn't mind some higher options, especially now they're gonna be needed asap. But a lot of good with this new update, feels like they listened to a lot of our complaints since before.

[@maxqazwsxedc-h4w]

There will always be self-entitled elites trying to justify every videogame is an esport

[@gigahertz7352]

@@jk56 this happened after AH and Sony had a meeting seems like Sony thought Concord was their GOTY game turned out HD2 will be carrying them for the meantime while they're still deciding their new Live service "Fairgame" will have the same Concord treatment, rn the trailer racking a tons of dislike already LMAO

[@spikem5950]

​@@jk56Yeah the game definitely does need higher difficulties so that people who think 10 is too easy still have something that caters to them. I'm just so tired of this all or nothing mentality where us playing on difficulty 5-6 aren't allowed to have fun because if the game is fun for it's because it's too easy and when we aren't having fun we're told to "stop playing difficulty 10" and "lower the difficulty" and "get good." Like, my brother in freedom I'm playing difficulty 5-6 with my friends after a 10 hour work day, stop gatekeeping mid difficulties with the max diff as your excuse.

[@Brutus-l1k]

now the recoilles rifle 1 shot bile titan, similiar in the game intro cutscene

[@stma9929]

I love it

[@thesovietduck2121]

Now that I think of it yeah, what are the tryhards gonna say when it's literally in the opening cutscene? Bile titans are easy to kill with 1 well placed shot

[@corsnake6959]

@@thesovietduck2121 "It WaS pROpaGanDA" something along those lines. I know because they were doing it a few weeks ago.

[@sethfeldpausch4337]

Finally Lore accurate!😂

[@camper5579]

I wonder why spear still takes 2 shots to kill if recoilless 1 shots

[@berserkerpride]

I don't think Bile Titan has to be a super tanky boss. It already serves a role in the bugs of being the longest ranged killer on their side. You almost have an equal trifecta of Behemoth chargers, Impalers, and Bile Titans. Each serves a different role. Its also fast, and scatters a helldiver team like nothing else. Feels good to take it out with anti-tank.

[@Misfiring89]

Yeah bile titans are FAST unlike factory striders. You cannot outrun a bile titan.

[@Auraknight]

Hard disagree: The longest range killer on the bug side is the goddamn mortar bile spewers. There's more of them, they got indirect fire, and while they're not AS threatening in CQC range, you can't ignore them, either. And they both can kill you after death!

[@ZePacifista]

@@Auraknight bile spewers are one of the bugs that don’t get enough attention. These things will spawn in packs of 8 with hunters and other bugs in the same patrol and will launch acid 20m ahead of whatever direction you’re running in and hit you. Also, they seem to detect you even if they don’t see you as they tend to start firing without you entering their LOS.

[@comradestarbucks2726]

The boss isn’t here yet, true.

[@mcdull68]

Any thoughts on bile titan spew killing you easily if you don’t straf left or right?

[@AquaMidget]

HMG Emplacement has always been my favorite stratagem. Practicality is meh, but god is it so damn fun if you have it set up in a good spot with a horde right in front of you. It's every machine gunner's wet dream.

[@D3adCl0wn]

The in the moment usage is great, but damn I wish you could stack deployable stratagems. I hate how they have a duration.

[@LarryPigeon1]

Not only that. Emplacement and HMG dont require you to aim at weakspots now. Thats for me a reason the now try the emplacement out

[@Mr_Bojgaard]

@D3adCl0wn sure about the time duration? I placed 2 hmg beside each other yesterday in the defend mission, no one used them that round, both of them were still there when we exfilled.

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@Mr_Bojgaard You can stack 2 turrets, 2nd deployment despawns the first after a couple seconds. I tried to be an engineer spamming turrets in the extract but nope. Right now only teslas are okay to stack since infinite ammo and hmg because you can 'keep' some ammo thus not despawning.

[@Deltarious]

@@D3adCl0wn You can stack HMG turrets they do not despawn (i'm sure there is an upper limit though), you cannot stack sentries because of their duration like you said initially, it's not related to calling the 2nd one in, if you don't call a 2nd and wait for the cooldown and keep looking at it you'll see it pack itself away even if it has full ammo 30s or so after the cooldown, the duration was specifically designed to be a little longer than the cooldown. HMGs have no duration at all since they are a different 'class' of emplacement much like mines and as a result the more time that passes without you having to use all their ammo the 'stronger' you get every second since the cooldown is still ticking

[@Medkips]

When I look down my sights into 3 bile titans 4 chargers and a hoard of hunters I don't think "man the recoilless is too powerful"

[@mitzuriki]

Agreed, you'd be thinking "Fuck,I don't have enough of me to deal with these!" With randos potentially running around their own fun kit,which risk not having crowd control and Dedicated AT, it'll vreate a sort of chaos fun and a threat in the same time

[@Keywiiwee]

I kinda disagree, i havent tried playing against bugs yet, ive been playing against bots 2 days now. I do think the game is kinda more fun now especially when you get a hard seed, but when i tired extermination mission, i was like "man the recoilless is too powerful" i was pressing delete on everything, dropships anywhere on the body, tanks, hulks, factory striders. it wasnt fun playing that mission before patch, but i definitely felt "man the recoilless is too powerful"

[@Foxtail190]

@@Keywiiweeyou kinda ruined your statement by saying “I haven’t played against the bugs” Also not everyone is a pro. Like there are people who solo D10 and think man this is easy” I and many other people are not in that league lmao

[@r.k845]

When you look down your sights and see 1 BT, 1 charger and some fodder* You don’t need to come up with hypotheticals that never occur to justify you using the Reddit rifle.

[@Medkips]

@@r.k845 must be playing in difficulty 6 or lower then because at 7 and up they don't hesitate to throw more tanks then you have ammo.

[@982Nighthawk1337]

"Part time employees at super earth's crispy creme out here getting glazer of the month" truly one of my favorite quotes you've said yet 😂😂😂

[@theyehsohz]

Going to order me a box right now, sounds delicious

[@mjohnsimon1337]

The thing about this game is that now everything can be killed reliably. That still doesn't mean you're _not_ going to get absolutely swarmed and have to still prioritize targets.

[@r.k845]

Remind me of when I actually ever get swarmed

[@baconx6476]

I was watching Maplewood on Twitch going on and about how he's not sure about the change because it makes the game too easy, and now it's gonna be more boring. I lean more towards what Ohdough is saying here, they need to make the game fun again first, and then they can start working on making the game harder, for the people that like more challenge. Right now, it's much more important in bringing back more casual players to keep the game alive before we start worrying about all the tryharding with how much easier the game is.

[@xtxownage]

I’ve taken to meme loadouts until everything is back in order. It actually is interesting trying to outwit everything with my crossbow and crisper.

[@D3adCl0wn]

This is much needed overall buff since diff 10 is not even the highest diff, there's 11 & 12 I think.

[@xtxownage]

@@D3adCl0wn …10 is the highest. That is literally what escalation of freedom was all about. there is nothing past that. The game does not get any harder, and as it is they are just as easy as 6 atm.

[@baconx6476]

@@D3adCl0wn 10 is the highest atm in HD2.

[@mcdull68]

Honestly I have only tried on bugs and the difficulty is still there, now it’s just more convenient for other stratagems like Railgun

[@BeastOrGod]

While the bigger units are easier to kill, the balance is that you're gonna be swarmed trying to kill them. The game is not easier, just more ways to win it now.

[@lolllama1504]

The game is objectively easier than before though, they buffed the player’s damage and didn’t change the enemies.

[@theofficialbruhfish8094]

@@lolllama1504yeah but you die in 2 seconds because of increased limb damage

[@lolllama1504]

@@theofficialbruhfish8094 brony detected, opinion rejected

[@heartpaid6767]

​@@theofficialbruhfish8094that is true.

[@SRFAA]

​​@@lolllama1504Agreed. People can say it's more fun now, but it's not really debatable about it being easier than it was before. They didn't increase mob spawns or something. They mainly buffed a bunch of weapons the players have, and in several cases made enemies weaker. They just need to add tougher enemies and possibly harder difficulties/missions now.

[@Sammysnows]

and yet ppl still complaining that this game too easy now with how we can kill bile titan that fast. like DUDE play the FING GAME you know is not the bile titan that is the most problematic is when you have 3 of them and hundreds of hunters, Alpha commander, spewer, and everything around you

[@Crispy_DAWG]

I generally consider myself quite decent, but to say this game was challenging but fun pre patch is a an absolutely horrible take. It was a war of attrition where every minute you spent running and waiting for cooldowns was another minute that went by that you could have spent playing another challenging game that was also rewarding based on skill. Pre patch was a slog. I want what those 500 divers are smoking because no one likes to spend 40 minutes suffering.

[@TomoyaOkazaki13]

@@Crispy_DAWG this!! i used to be those guys who were "i like the challenge" with the nerfs... but after EACH GAME at Diff-8 had a minimum of 5 - 10 CHARGERS and at least 2 Bile Titans chasing me + the swarm of smaller bugs AND Stalkers, I slowly realized how dogshit the nerfs were. i stopped playing after that and just waited out for the update. and as you mentioned, it became a war of attrition waiting for cooldowns and hoping that you get into a position to take a breather and reposition just to deal with ONE elite enemy.

[@Crispy_DAWG]

@@TomoyaOkazaki13 I stayed and let me tell you, every match felt like another dagger being stabbed into my chest. Some days, I kid you not, I’d have zero completed missions because of how useless everything felt. If even one person didn’t bring “Meta” stratagems, you’d spend the first 20 minutes trying to catch a breath before someone rage quit

[@TomoyaOkazaki13]

@@Crispy_DAWG yeah. before i quit, i had like 1 or 2 completed out of i think 8 missions its that hard

[@BackwardsPancake]

@@TomoyaOkazaki13 I had a basically 100% mission success rate, and I still agree completely. Because the trick to winning came down to "take out priority targets that can keep up with you, run past everything else". Now, it's actually faster/possible to consistently clean up enemy groups completely, and you can do it with more different loadouts - Win or lose, that's a way more interesting way to play.

[@Bakemer94]

Just wanted to point out that the belly and the tail have different hp values. I'm pretty sure the belly has less hp, so if you took the stalwart to its belly instead of the tail, you might have better results. I remember Piles saying something about support weapons will be able to go for the belly much easier in this patch.

[@splashyatom22]

Was thinking that cause I hit it's belly with the sycth and after awhile it took it down. The tail was not worth it

[@colewilson666]

Had a super clutch moment earlier today where I missed the thermite throw and was able to kill a bile titan using my stalwart and some very nice footwork and I'd have to say, was one of the best moments I've had in this game in a long time

[@kylesimmons9457]

"Is it too easy to kill Bile Titans now" Not when there's 4 of them charging at me at once.

[@r.k845]

Never actually happens.

[@gamingnation2054]

The game is so much more fun now

[@Ripperonis]

"Those people would turn out to be part-time employees at Super Earth's Crispy Cream, just out here getting Glazer of the month." How the fuck do you be coming up with this shit. 😂

[@aldarrin]

Try the Arc Thrower with Engineering Kit armor, Grenade Pistol, Termite grenades, Reamer (SF mode), Arc Blitzer, Machine Gun Sentry / Guard Dog, Eagle Airstrike / 500kg, and dealers choice of Orbitals. It's a good time.

[@aewon2085]

I wouldn’t bother with anti light with the arc thrower, if you manage to let the bugs close 55m distance I think a different issue has occurred Personally I just load all the anti heavy I can and the arc thrower melts / stuns everything else

[@g3ogame935]

Good loadout, I tried something similar -Arc Thrower -Shield Generator Pack -500kg/OPS -Eagle Napalm/Gatling Barrage -Liberator/Liberator Carbine -Grenade Pistol -Thermite Grenade -Engineer Armor Liberator over Blitzer cause of how good it is close quarters, you can use the Arc Thrower for everything until the bugs are at your shield, where the Liberator kills them fast. Weakness could be heavies I guess

[@LocoRoco2009]

Blitzer Grenade Pistol Stun ‘nades Gas Orbital Napalm Orbital or Airstrike Flamethrower Guard Dog (Laser or Liberator) Crowd control at its finest.

[@Madcowdiseiz]

It's also nice to bring a precision weapon to save teammates with. I've had too many very nice people try to "help" with their shotgun or Blitzer.

[@LocoRoco2009]

@@Madcowdiseiz replace the grenade pistol with a senator :D

[@theopenmindedtruthseeker9747]

2:45 apparently the HMG got stealth nerfed from 55 durable damage down to 35 durable damage. If it was dealing 55 we’d be able to kill bile titans with it in a fairly reasonable manner like the autocannon can.

[@leovin00]

If true I'd wager it's unintentional haha

[@Misfiring89]

Well in theory 60 rounds to the head will kill it, or 70 rounds to the belly. They definitely adjusted the HMG so one mag is just enough to kill a bile titan.

[@dranox7197]

Yea I feel this hard after update. Factory could be taken out with half a mag to the stomach pre update. That is NOT the case anymore.

[@BackwardsPancake]

Weird change. The HMG is already one of the more challenging support weapons to use with any degree of efficiency, given it's recoil and relatively very limited ammo supply. If this isn't a mistake, they could at least tone down the recoil a little to make up for it, or give us larger mags.

[@guillermotoro2342]

I don't think so. Every heavy has a lot more HP now. Probably the HMG damage is the same, but you simply need more shots

[@Soggysenpai]

Anti tank feels goood😎

[@BackwardsPancake]

Yeah, this is honestly how it always should have been. Getting two launchers with an EAT drop and then basically always having to use both on the same target (when confronting anything you'd actually need hard AT for) was kinda dumb.

[@QC1cold1canadien1kid]

In killing floor 2 the most tanky non boss enemy can be one shot by a headshot with the hardest hitting rocket laucher, this is the standard for hord shooters. Some people have such a twisted view on the game, like they have Stockholm with helldiver at it's worst.

[@Keywiiwee]

not just the rocket launchers can few shots titans now, its just an enemy now, it used to be oh no look a deadly bile titan, now its too easy to kill titans, factory striders are still super lethal and not as easy to kill with even anti tank weapons

[@gigahertz7352]

@@Keywiiwee so what's your point?

[@spikem5950]

​@@gigahertz7352 "Wahh game fun, wahh people aren't miserable playing it, wahh I'm no longer part of some super exclusive group able to solo difficulty 10 on a game with 9k player counts some days."

[@Keywiiwee]

@@gigahertz7352 whats the point of bile titans?

[@gigahertz7352]

@@Keywiiwee im genuinely asking what's your point on BT as you said can't be called a boss now?

[@Kywu]

Bile Titan is still a challenging threat, with others terminids going at you, u let him go forward and bile titan create more chaos

[@r.k845]

“U let hi-*dies in a single AP5 shot* Right well that sure was chaotic

[@redonculous1995]

The game makes sense now. If you bring the right tool for the right job you can succeed if you manage to be precise with your shots. Thats how it always should have been. Its not too easy to kill a bile titan. People are just competent enough to know how to use the options available to them. They took the unnecessary grind out of the gameplay.

[@r.k845]

“It’s not too easy to k-*obliterates it with a single AP5 shot* I dunno man. Kinda fucking easy. You aim and fire.

[@Deltarious]

You mentioned striders, railgun is actually insane against them now since it can *reasonably* deal with the top cannon in a few shots and the miniguns in one each. Since it already took a bit longer to kill the striders and you're encouraged to engage longer range it feels *really* great against them now. Actually killing it still takes quite a few shots but effectively disabling it feels absolutely amazing with it

[@nfsfanAndrew]

Railgun is dogshit.

[@MessyGamer616]

railgun would be good if its sights werent complete ass

[@petercottantail7850]

railgun can one tap gunships engines and laser canon can't reliably take out turret/tank heat sinks anymore. maybe that's old news but now lc has fallen into the meme class rail gun was in and now rail gun is just a better choice of the two by default (specifically for bots solo)

[@forlornfoe]

Thanks for going through the trouble, that takes some time. I love the current feeling of playing a glass cannon with actual variety in loadout options.

[@damienmcdonald7610]

Its a great change having weapons that make me enjoy fighting the enemies rather than rely on kiting. Ironically I die more now because i enjoy sticking around for a fight too much for my own good lol.

[@icow12]

being able to manage these solo is a breath of fresh air. I've been dragged to level 9/10 and it feels great to be able to contribute

[@jedb9677]

Dam how I missed you playing a game you enjoy testing and playing. It was so brutal watching you play a game you didn't enjoy. Glad to see you having fun again, going to need to resub. Hope you have fun retesting everything mate.

[@e56hdyhdfgh]

Thermite grenade is funny, just toss it on a hulk/charger and walk away. I do wonder if this is too easy now, but hopefully they choose to increase difficulty in other ways. Our weapons, stratagems, etc., not feeling effective against stuff is not the way.

[@musicarain4702]

to be fair, the long fuse time means that you do have to do a bit of waiting. I've had chargers run into my squad with a thermite attached to its face and the explosion got some of us lol

[@spinone-d2]

i think they are letting us have our fun before next faction

[@SRFAA]

​@@spinone-d2Illuminate isn't the optimal way to increase difficulty either. Either way, it's just going to be a different experience, like how Terminids and Automatons are different experiences.

[@SRFAA]

To me, the ideal way to increase difficulty is to just add more enemy types, and increase the ratio between strong enemies and weak enemies on higher difficulties. Each successive difficulty level shouldn't just be "more enemies". They can also put more exclusive things on higher difficulties, like they did with the last big update.

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@SRFAA Right now, chaff support weapons are even more neglected because of the AT buffs, so I say more chaff enemies should be a staple in higher diff. Like make it so that someone running any MG support weapon becomes a must, just like AT. But more enemy quantity might be tricky for the console side though.

[@eddtru]

0:25 takes three shots to kill bile titan but only one to blow myself up, rewarding gameplay.

[@fireworkkhz]

Thank you for making this a easy digestible video instead of just 40 mins showing beginning to end glad to see you making helldivers content

[@RazorPhoenix7]

having fun playin rambo with dominator, stalwart, thermite, supply pack, peak physique on the bug front, really fun run and gun playstyle

[@JoeSneeky]

i had a lvl 10 game with all flamethrowers. almost felt like a regular lvl 10 game pre patch. (almost because of napalm orbital that is very good against reinforcements) its easy when you have people who take support weapons that are good against heavys. its harder when you run with less leathal weapons against heavys. They start pile up until you have 5 chargers again. . . . . To make the game harder, the devs should introduce new enemy types (real boss mobs), new movesets for existing mobs that are already in the game and new missions. for example: a charger that rolls to the side after charging on higher difficulty 9 + 10. Faster bile titans that can jump and dodge on lvl 9 + 10. Bots that run and take cover on higher difficulty. Bots that actually try to flank you instead of just standing and shooting. New missions with already existing assets would also be nice, example: 1. Defent the SEAF atillery for 15 minutes while its automaticly shooting with nukes on a non visible target. 2. Attack with the SEAF atillery nukes (that is on the first map) on a heavily fortified positions in a 15 min mission. this would give the illusion, that one team is defending the SEAF Atillery and the other team is attacking with it. this game has so much faundation to be developt further... and still its fighting for its survival.

[@nfsfanAndrew]

I hope they don't nerf the thermite grenades. Love them. Especially when you're running weapons that can't deal with heavies reliably.

[@974cerebrate]

They did already you get one less thermite compared to other grenades

[@Faerindel]

We have just 3, they have a rather short range and they take a *while* to blow, enough for the heavy to punish your audacity. I wouldn't cry if they get filed down a bit so it takes consistently 2 to kill a Titan but they're great as they are now.

[@BackwardsPancake]

I think they're fine as they are now. If they absolutely have to nerf them, I would say make them heavier, so they arc more severely and can't be thrown as far as other grenades. Would play even more into their identity as close range high-risk-high-reward AT, and might even be a QoL buff in some cases (e.g., it would be easier to lob them over cover and onto a heavy enemy, without having to stand out in the open or try some goofy straight-up throw tech).

[@Shadow6OO]

Not to mention that they also have a tendency to just bounce off of your targets sometimes. Really annoying when it happens, but definitely makes the times it does it's job all the more satisfying.

[@nfsfanAndrew]

​@@974cerebratethat capacity change came with the damage buff. So doesn't count. We lost 1 grenade but gained the power for a single thermite to kill a charger when place correctly. Before they did basically nothing

[@herbzum]

I appreciate the time and effort it took to answer a question I had and in the most complete way you could. 🙏

[@joshalar7899]

Basedivers 2, yeah I’m thinking we are back 🙌🏼

[@Jimov]

Gave Helldivers a break, but this update will get me back into it! Always great to have variety when killing the big stuff.

[@Zergor]

Thanks!

[@OhDough]

No problemo Many thanks

[@fresnel149]

Protip: if you're really angry, really desperate, or just outright insane, the Torcher can kill a Bile Titan too. I got caught without a support weapon yesterday and did what I had to do.

[@DenyThisFlesh]

I just like that we have more options that work consistently now. Once they have that dialed in they can tweak things to make the higher difficulties more challenging. I think I know what you were wanting to say about the arc thrower. It's not bad, but it was definitely overhyped IMO. I tried it for a couple games and it's fine, but nothing mindblowing. The range is crazy, but it still shoots pretty slow and if you have a bunch of small bugs rushing you it takes too long to get your shots off to deal with them. The blitzer is great for those situations though and the improvements to that are noticeable.

[@keithstone8693]

Before the patch, a good handful of support weapons and strats literally had no option to kill some of the heavily armored enemies. Even shit you'd figure would be a good all purpose (auto-cannon, anti-material rifle, etc), literally could not kill things like Bile Titans, to any reasonable degree. It guaranteed there was a meta for weapon loadouts, especially for solo players. I'm so glad that this patch makes it genuinely feel like every weapon is somewhat viable, while a few weapons absolutely shine in their given purpose

[@jamesdrake3651]

Looks good to me. I'm getting back on this weekend.

[@Tenchua917]

I guess we are back back now, see you helldivers

[@TheWonderingHalfling]

You're right that the Bile Titan should be roughly equal to the Factory Strider as they are the "boss" enemies of each faction. I think it's fine for BTs to be a bit squishier though because the "tribe mechanic" of bugs is swarms, so if you have a few BTs then it makes up for them being a bit weaker than FS. They've made a lot of good changes with the update! Hopefully they continue down this line and fine tune things so that we get some more difficulties and challenge after everyone gets used to how the game plays again. This obviously after AH + Community are happy that the game is fun.

[@victornguyen1175]

The main great thing about this patch is that you can actually take things out from a distance without having to worry about the complete lack of margin for error. You can actually miss a shot or two and not expect them to immediately be on your face before having to deal the other 3 additional ones that spawned in the meantime while you were dealing with the first one.

[@jalontf2]

7:14 Ah yes, the secret "laser enema" tactic

[@Larknok1]

Bugs are in a great place right now. Lots of kills, lots of viability, lots of deaths. They struck a good 'glass cannon' balance on the bug front. Bot front is another thing. They need to completely revisit giving the hulk bruisers command bunker lasers.

[@gamingnation2054]

Why are people complaining? The same people that wanted the buffs are now complaining that it’s to easy now? What fuck do you guys want?

[@r.k845]

Do you think they’re the same people? Lowest IQ community of all time. Genuinely baffled.

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

It's awesome that all these weapons can deal damage to armored targets now. You still have the crowd control ability, and 4 Helldivers dumping damage into these larger targets will drop them in reasonable time

[@joshuajohnson7848]

Thank you for the great video! This patch makes me want to play the game again and seeing my favorites makes vids brings me so much joy.

[@OddBear8647]

So glad to see this game start making a come back

[@georgi1905]

Agree with everything! They could add difficulty levels or dif.modifiers like player handicap or add buffs to enemies like hp deff explosion ress dps to make it fun for fanatics and leave us normal ppl fun

[@r.k845]

“They could add difficulty levels” They already did. You should got embarrassed about not play diff 9 so forced them to make it easier

[@02stampede]

I'm glad to see the player count rise. I have some faith now that this game could last for many years to come if AH keeps going this direction.

[@isthissparta1485]

The issue with the Thermite before was that multiple Thermites did not stack. The Thermite applies a DOT effect that deals a lot of damage before the end explosion, but before the recent patch that end explosion's damage was pitiful so the optimal strategy was to throw one at a time leading to inconsistent results when someone did not know that. Now the end explosion is ridiculous so its worth throwing more than 1 to kill something faster

[@LeadMetal82]

They're now about as difficult as a factory Strider. They're more in numbers but are less tanky, which is how it should be in my opinion.

[@Keywiiwee]

1 factory strider and im dead, 2 factory striders and im inside the super destroyer, 10 bile titans still didnt impress me, factory striders are harder to kill and more lethal, thats what bile titans needs, they should get a buff, like turn the head while spewing, more deadly spew, faster, or something

[@LeadMetal82]

@@Keywiiwee Take out the chin turrets of a strider and it's basically not a threat up close until it vomits another group of devastators.

[@Keywiiwee]

@@LeadMetal82 i think more enemies should be like the tank, it cant be damaged by the autocannon sentry anymore, it cant be destroyed by railgun that quickly and its not too strong to the point of being frustrating

[@FiendLuckless]

@@LeadMetal82 I keep seeing this sentiment that factory strider is infinitely more deadly than bile titans when they can be disarmed and made harmless. The biggest threat is the 4 devastators they birth every 20 seconds or so overwhelming you if you dont kill it fast enough. If they made a nursing titan that functioned similar to strider, itd trump strider entirely.

[@simonlam3843]

Awesome video thank you! Satisfying kills

[@quintonlim4275]

We are so back!

[@OrbitingHog]

Great video OhDough!

[@davidweaver4436]

In one game, long ago, I used a single Patriot to take out multiple Bile Titans and Chargers. With the right tools, they were always easy. We just have more options now. A lonely Bile Titan was always easy. Any single enemy in the game was always easy as long as you had the right weapon to shoot it with. It's when they have help that it's hard, and still is. You might still kill it, but you might end up in a rough spot doing so. Depends on positioning and what weapon you're using. I feel this every time I play. I get excited to see the big guys "oooh, lemme stick it with a thermite!" but if there's a bile titan AND a charger AND hunters. "Oh f-"

[@TomHuitema-dp1zb]

If the devs want a difficult enemy that takes a ton of bullets to take down, they need to make a huge bug that has a ton of of weak spots on it, and you have to take out each spot to take it down.

[@ValcryeTheSecond]

Honestly I’ve seen a lot of people claim that it’s too easy to kill a charger or a titan. Sure there’s easy ways to kill isolated ones, but it’s a lot better than zigzagging to the Benny hill theme while they chase you across the map because you couldnt get the perfect shot at killing them

[@ripHalo0002]

Thanks for making this video. 3:45 GL uses a belt. Cheers!

[@justintan5629]

Impressive Presentation. Always appreciative of these weapon tests. Keep it up!

[@mattwalker2818]

This one is for all you "Glazers of the month," never give up, never surrender.

[@razeru]

Thanks for doing this. I don't have to do it on my own now. Great info!

[@BOOMDIGGER]

The Bile Titan is the Bot tank. Don't be disillusioned about that, The Factory Strider is much more tanky, much more dangerous and spawns. A Bile titan like a tank is heavy big and shoots very slow. And may run you over.

[@lolllama1504]

🤓

[@yeggstuh4389]

7:48 I think next to go is players getting instakilled by wee tiny grunts, and fixing the titan spew hitbox, if those get fixed, the game will be close to perfect.

[@warfish0r]

Yo Dough, 'ppreciate you. Looking forward to more videos exploring the changes. Hope you get some good sponsors soon.

[@elfireii328]

feels good to use the reconciles again. Thanks for the video specifying things dough!

[@CaptainTicklefinger]

Thank you for this and for everything else you do!

[@RegularJard]

Would've been really cool if the Arc Thrower could stun them like the Stun Grenade used to. Would allow non explosive support weapons to get the kill easier for teammates. Great vid man, appreciated 🙏

[@DaytonaRoadster]

the HMG emplacement IS THE GOAT!!!... THE GOAT

[@WVTarheel]

Cool can't wait to see your tier list for primaries

[@Rlogsdon100]

Glazers for comparing bile titans to tanks. Glazing who? What on earth? Lmao caught me so far off guard. The dude is shadow boxing ghosts.

[@ricksanchez5474]

Great job on the testing!

[@TheMadScorpyon]

A solo Titan may be easy to kill but the issues of difficulties rise when it's both variety and abundance. If there's a Titan on the field with 2 chargers and a myriad of fodder bugs it's gonna be nuts

[@sillykili1312]

"A smidge and some time" "A full battery and some change" Anything but the metric system, love these units of measurements ❤

[@Error-rc9es]

in games like this where theres very little interaction to be had with enemies (you cant really block, dodge, parry, or have any other meaningful back and forth where you dont just end up tanking a ton of damage or running away) you WANT extremely low TTK.

[@BruceWade-n2d]

Oh yeah? Wait until the super bile titan comes out

[@CL3VA]

I think this idea of being an expendable glass cannon is what most players want, and the player count shows this, Bile titans are what I'd say is a fine spot. Lethal, but easy to take down with equipment

[@Keywiiwee]

I disagree, bile titans are a joke, factory striders are in good spot, super leathal, but you can deal with them with the right weapons

[@gigahertz7352]

@@Keywiiwee and that's fine, if the game has statistics on what enemies Helldivers dying the most I would guess it would be hunters for sure

[@CL3VA]

@@Keywiiwee with how many there are, I think they're fine. You change them at all, and then the game drops in players and it becomes more a hassle than anything else

[@Keywiiwee]

@@CL3VA I agree with you, i dont know how would they balance it out exaclty, but stright up nerfing the railgun wouldnt work. I think bile titans should be more lethal if anything

[@mitchellbarton7915]

"Quasar cannon is a one tap on layaway." "It has arrived!" 😂

[@EVILJAMARR]

I am having so much freaking fun with this game since this update. I can hardly believe it

[@IRMentat]

Good data. Thank you. I don’t mind big enemies having more options to kill them they can all but 1-shot us already so turnaround is fair play. Plus they already spawn in 1-4 arcs time plus assorted screening forces. As to boosting the “difficulty” I would act thusly. Slow the stim heal rate to 1/3 and triple the duration, that’s it. No more instant full health and near immortality for the activation time, now you have to babysit ALL of your health pool because a single crit doesn’t delete 55-111% of the HO bar anymore. Now getting hit matters a LOT more because it’s going to take time to patch up and hunters can’t combo kill is in a half second anymore because that insane double damage headshots been chilled the hell out.

[@ShizeiTigras]

This patch is the most fun patch Arrowhead has released in MONTHS.

[@hotpenguin607]

Its good that other weapons have a fighting chance against these heavily armoured units now.

[@rallyupboys]

I haven't seen it mentioned, but I've noticed I've actually been killing bile titans with my reinforce hellpod.

[@casataco]

Bile titans are easier to kill, doesnt mean the game is easier to play. Just means there is more ways to complete the same task.

[@sadghfajdslhgsadklgk]

So if killing my enemies is easier and I have more options how to deal with problems, but the enemies and problems have not grown.... how is it not easier?

[@ElMayonesero]

​@@sadghfajdslhgsadklgkBut they have grown. Not only you can kill enemies faster, but they can kill you faster too. They nerfed the damage reduction on our limbs and chest, we break our limbs and we bleed more often.

[@sadghfajdslhgsadklgk]

@ElMayonesero fair point, but I must say I hardly notice the effect of these changes vs my own capabilities vs them

[@r.k845]

@@ElMayoneseroWhen the bugs have to actually get close? They’re easier.

[@Chse.a]

This is random but I have been on and off watching you since your dauntless days with xanny and I just wanted to say you come a long way dough❤

[@oldschooldos6850]

Good data! Excited to see how they buff the plas stuff and make the knife into some kinda throwable lightsaber. I am so here for all the fun of smashin bugs and bots with a variety of not terrible weapons.

[@dozer1431]

Damn, didn't know I was different with the HMG.

[@SaltyFeta]

They variety in which we can kill heavies is very satisfying now

[@Kizaru3314]

It's time to have a serious discussion about being able to rappel down a big hole and fighting our way a series of underground tunnels trying to find a bug egg that _doesn't give us shit rewards._

[@erellunula2746]

If they keep it up with updates like this, I can see myself playing this game again.

[@mrhappytroll]

hey its ohdough! hes still uploading

[@giantrhino]

I love the new OhDough

[@Daytradinggamer]

so many bile titans were injured in the making of this video. sir I'm a representative for the bile titan community ill see you in super court

[@warfighter1988]

They should make the 1 kill spot smaller for bile titans with a recoilles rifle so you really need to have perfect aiming

[@kazmanne4972]

Very helpful video thanks king.

[@nickrowan]

I like how you go out of your way to miss shots to make it a realistic simulation for people like me. Cause I can't hit shit. Edit: 5:00 I LOVE the HMG emplacement now. It's incredible.

[@hippoace]

Will you do rocket pods next?

[@PennsyPappas]

See this is what many of us have wanted for so long. We want EVERY weapon to be a viable choice to bring to a mission knowing full well sure its not the best for certain enemies but the fact it can still kill them makes us less worried when they show up. I love this update and really hope they dont neef any of these particular buffs anytime soon. Heck im finally using the Thermite grenades which i never did before.

[@Keywiiwee]

i dont get why the spear doesnt 1 shot bile titans anywhere on the body, they are a joke now make the spear good against them, it doesnt even have that much ammo. also the railgun is too much needs a slight nerf in my opinion, because it can deal with both medium enemies like a primary weapon, and heavy enemies like a support weapon, the only down side now, its not good against tanks bot tanks

[@PennsyPappas]

@@Keywiiwee Considering that the Railgun only has 21 shots in total to use and requires the weapon to be charged I personally think it's where it should be at, because not everybody is gonna hit the bile titan in the head 3 times in a row. Top that with multiple enemies spawning in and all of a sudden no one is going to think the Railgun is too OP. The Spear on the other hand yeah it should on shot on the body but ideally it'll just hit the face nearly every time hopefully mitigating that problem but yeah it should be God tier against basically everything given low ammo count. Edit: as for medium enemies It is a Railgun and I saw OhDough struggle even with Chargers. A weapon with low ammo count and charge time needs to be able to take down enemies rather quickly to make up for this.

[@Keywiiwee]

@@PennsyPappas low ammo counts? the railgun is the highest anti tank weapons in terms of ammo, you get what 6 4 rockets on average, and only dealing with tanks not medium enemies, 21 shots is more than enough for a weapon that good, not like you cant take a supply backpack or call in more supplies, which with other anti tank you cant

[@PennsyPappas]

@@Keywiiwee Not everyone is rocking the supply pack and the Railgun falls on the weakest side when it comes to anti tank which is why it needs the extra ammo. And again it's a charge weapon meaning you can miss your shots because either the enemy moves or you get staggered while trying to hit enemy. Its not a super low ammo count but the Railgun feels like it should if that's the weapon you're going to bring. Otherwise I'd just bring the Quasar Cannon and have unlimited ammo and have a really heavy hitter.

[@Keywiiwee]

@@PennsyPappas The quasar is good, but its worse than the recoilless, the recoilless is good but its worse than the railgun in most cases, its better at taking bot tanks i guess, but there is thermite grenades and other eagles stratagems to take them so its just better in terms of versatility. if there are more than 4 rocket scout striders then you are done, if you got no medium pen high damage primary, the railgun melts them with 1 shot. railgun doesnt struggle agaisnt medium enemies, while anti tank weapons do