Can Hindus And Muslims See Eye To Eye? | Middle Ground

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@sheezum4
@sheezum4 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Kashmiri Pandit and my mother personally knows Achint and his family. She also immediately called her friend (Achint's sister) as soon as she saw this. The acount that Achint has given is NOTHING compared to how horrifyingly his father was assassinated. He was tortured the entire night (with cigarette butts etc.), his house was surrounded by Islamic terrorists and his father was later found in a dry well the next day. He was so young when this happened and my mother recalled everything as soon as she heard what I was watching! I am absolutely shattered by how some people did not let him talk about his viewpoints. This Middle Ground video represents the political situation of the country very well nowadays and how absolutely DIFFICULT it has become to express viewpoints and even state facts. At the same time, I am nothing but PROUD of Achint and the way he spoke. He was an absolute gentleman, so soft spoken and my heart cries for him because he was surrounded with such insensitive people. THIS IS EXACTLY what infuriates Kashmiri Pandits in this country. I am glad we still take our space, even though exactly like some people here would not want us to do that.
@leehuimang5117
@leehuimang5117 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing his story
@shubhankar3164
@shubhankar3164 3 жыл бұрын
Saddening
@RiddhiVines
@RiddhiVines 3 жыл бұрын
This comment should be pinned.
@catsy1302
@catsy1302 3 жыл бұрын
more power to all kashmiri pandits out there❤🌹
@rubabm2637
@rubabm2637 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much for sharing his story and it doesn't mean a lot but I want to apologise for the behaviour and reactions to him sharing some of it. My heart goes out to him and his family.
@_bellersss
@_bellersss 3 жыл бұрын
as a Muslim myself, the way Ali approached some of the questions with a lack of empathy was so disappointing especially after Kabir was acknowledging Achint's loss. Being sorry for someone's loss does not mean they're taking responsibility, just showing respect
@2ksnipa355
@2ksnipa355 3 жыл бұрын
Dude said “As a part of the Muslim community I am sorry for ur loss” like bro is acting as if the Muslim community is responsible and not some crazy individual
@2ksnipa355
@2ksnipa355 3 жыл бұрын
@Rakshita Singh ok and regular people in America commit murders that are all Christian but no one says “I apologize on behalf of the Christian community.” Just because some psycho claims to be Muslim and kills doesn’t mean the community is responsible. Ali is 100% right and the most sensible on this casting. I do agree that maybe he could have showed a little more empathy but his logic was better than everyone elses
@thvf2381
@thvf2381 3 жыл бұрын
@@2ksnipa355 this!!
@ishantrana8003
@ishantrana8003 3 жыл бұрын
@@2ksnipa355 well Achint's father was killed just because he was NOT a muslim ...and whoever killed him was perpetrating the crime on the basis of religion so when the crime is happening on the basis of religion then why not apology should happen on the same basis...and he said as a muslim he was sorry he didn't say i am apologizing on behalf of the whole islamic population.
@msr7373
@msr7373 3 жыл бұрын
That’s true Ali did sound harsh
@saloni495
@saloni495 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is a politician....why they have called a politician??
@kinjalroy2419
@kinjalroy2419 3 жыл бұрын
Which party?
@saloni495
@saloni495 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinjalroy2419 Indian national congress
@kinjalroy2419
@kinjalroy2419 3 жыл бұрын
@@saloni495 that's why Congress is always losing elections 🤡
@Power0P7949
@Power0P7949 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinjalroy2419 😂 true
@tejas4256
@tejas4256 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why congress losing elections😂😂
@Sa-eon
@Sa-eon Ай бұрын
This is the reality. You woukd never find a muslim favouring a hindu but can definitely find a hindu favouring islam..that is pallavi for you all
@Messihaz
@Messihaz Ай бұрын
As a Muslim who stands up for Hindus this is really heartbreaking to read
@MrLikea8055
@MrLikea8055 Ай бұрын
​@@Messihaz didnt you ask for a third pakistan in another comment.
@Messihaz
@Messihaz Ай бұрын
@@MrLikea8055 yes, and?
@devasheeeshhh
@devasheeeshhh Ай бұрын
@@Messihaz you really think we cannot read your other comments in this video itself?
@Messihaz
@Messihaz Ай бұрын
@@devasheeeshhh by hindus I don't mean vishwaguru moditards, real hindus who don't let politicians buy their beliefs are the ones I stand up for
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 3 жыл бұрын
The way they were dealing with that man’s trauma makes me real mad as a Black person. What if a white person did that to them about racism? They’d be mad pressed, it makes my blood boil.
@lioness5838
@lioness5838 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to India. And , if we retaliate we r the oppressors. This is what a hindu faces when he/she talks about their suffering. Even our community's genocide is not reported .
@divyanshsinha1045
@divyanshsinha1045 3 жыл бұрын
Black thinks that they were the most persecuted and exploited race in world ,once they real about the history of Indian Hindus ,their sufferings,their sacrifices ,their persecution ,the islamic invasion and the the cherry on the top the British Colony for more than 200 years the blood will boil at more than Sun 🌡️ temperature , The most persecuted race in the world are HINDUS 😔😥🙏🏻 ,Still we are tolerant towards all the people ,still they target uss ,
@internetuser4759
@internetuser4759 3 жыл бұрын
@@divyanshsinha1045 bro hindu isn't a race
@nkk_23
@nkk_23 3 жыл бұрын
​@@divyanshsinha1045 divyansh this isn't oppression olympics we have all been exploited in terrible ways
@sobhi1423
@sobhi1423 3 жыл бұрын
@@divyanshsinha1045 bruhhhhhh didn't British killed millions of Indians regardless of there religion
@user-ic4od1ym3l
@user-ic4od1ym3l 3 жыл бұрын
“None of my business. Not my problem.” The most insensitive thing a person can say sitting in front of a victim. Achint, no words for you loss. You and your family is a victim of hatred of Kashmiri muslims on Kashmiri Hindus. This shouldn’t have happened. It is the combined hatred of one community on another that made this happen, it is not one person’s doing.
@thecrimsondragon9744
@thecrimsondragon9744 3 жыл бұрын
The irony is that this attitude of 'not my problem', from people on both sides, is the problem. Not my problem is a problem.
@raghavnamasivayam5098
@raghavnamasivayam5098 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecrimsondragon9744 It's the muslim community that says that
@k.w.4420
@k.w.4420 3 жыл бұрын
Right, I understood the idea he was trying to present but it simply wasn't the time or the way of doing it.
@weshouldsaveourselves6780
@weshouldsaveourselves6780 3 жыл бұрын
@@raghavnamasivayam5098 youre the problem. youre the reason we are having these discussions because youre so stuck up in the divide and wanting to remove islam from India. of course its not only muslims who say its not my problem, its hindus too, its all people who are too insensitive and heartless to care whether thats in the irish english violence etc etc.
@ayesthatix
@ayesthatix 3 жыл бұрын
@@raghavnamasivayam5098 just a single person doesn't represent the entire community..apart from Kashmir the rest of India is peacefully coexisting with each other.the problem is in the kashmir not in the faith of Muslims.the govt and media should focus where we are lacking in making kashmir more peaceful rather than blaming the whole muslim community for what is happening there or have happened
@myas-3995
@myas-3995 3 жыл бұрын
If Achint had been a Muslim and his family were the victims of the assassination, would Ali still have said “it’s not my problem!”? We are so used to wanting to see one community as being victimised that when perpetrators come from that community we lose all balance and objectivity. I lost interest in this discussion when Achint’s lived experiences were completely dismissed and turned into something else and diverted by attention seeking Pallavi
@gc-yt6627
@gc-yt6627 3 жыл бұрын
I think what he meant 2 say was u can't "expect" another Muslim to apologise for what another has done. So he didn't have to apologise but out of respect he should have gave his condolences. As for that politician, this is why some of jubilees videos r crap. Why would u bring a politician to a middle ground talk
@dayyanahmad117
@dayyanahmad117 3 жыл бұрын
Well he was right that all Muslims should not take blame for this but yes, he also sounds rude to me. If anyone is facing discrimination, violence, we should all raise our voice. It's inhumanity to say "that's not my problem"!!! If anyone is taking about pakistani pandits, that doesn't mean he hate Muslims or blaming indian muslim for it.
@gc-yt6627
@gc-yt6627 3 жыл бұрын
@Khartikeyen Satheraman what r u talking about
@myas-3995
@myas-3995 3 жыл бұрын
Apologising and being apologetic are 2 different aspects. Feeling apologetic does not mean that you directly caused a problem but you feel remorse and shame for what happened to the other person. I find it strange when Pallavi started discussing about how Hindus should apologise or feel remorse for Mosques being burnt. Why should a Hindu who has not caused a Mosque to burn be made to feel apologetic? The rules change when it’s the other way round isn’t it? Double standards much 🤷‍♀️ A middle ground can only ever be attained when a community is objective and is able to introspect within rather than solely celebrating victimhood. If someone from your community makes a mistake or commits a crime in the name of the religion that is wrong and that action would have ruined someone’s life so yes be apologetic about it and condemn what that person from your community did. That is the mature, objective and truly unbiased way to deal with sensitivity.
@darkpanda239
@darkpanda239 3 жыл бұрын
@@myas-3995 bang on!
@Lightsaber-zm1zx
@Lightsaber-zm1zx 8 ай бұрын
"nikah" she converted to Islam, it is not a fair debeat
@ShashankaPappala
@ShashankaPappala 3 ай бұрын
hahahaha its 2 Hindus vs 4 Muslims again not a fair battleground. What a shame!!
@Mooksha-i2x
@Mooksha-i2x 2 ай бұрын
It's not fare debate 4 mudlim, two victim card , 2 hindu
@KingKong-z4v
@KingKong-z4v 2 ай бұрын
You should made a debate all Hindus than it will be fair you.😂​@@ShashankaPappala
@ShashankaPappala
@ShashankaPappala 2 ай бұрын
@@KingKong-z4v Are you for real? Do you exist in real world? No wonder, I would love to not meet you in person, I pity those who have to live in your surrounding :P :P
@aggressive9999
@aggressive9999 2 ай бұрын
Correct
@jaspreet0305
@jaspreet0305 3 жыл бұрын
Achint is the only person who has suffered due to this hindu-msulim rivalry. Achint is the only person who was talked over most of the time. That's a great reflection of how we're dealing with this problem.
@niceperson1985
@niceperson1985 3 жыл бұрын
True. That hindu girl is also the best example of the indian left i have seen. Blame the victims for the problems and then leave the pot boiling.
@dracarysgirl2048
@dracarysgirl2048 3 жыл бұрын
Why she didn't say "thanks for not blaming hindus" when zarah talked about her problems? Thats when she realised that she should sympathise 😬😬
@अण्वायुवरीवर्त
@अण्वायुवरीवर्त 3 жыл бұрын
She doesn't know anything and wants to work on issues without understanding of the actual events. She was ignorant Ngl.
@arun3568
@arun3568 3 жыл бұрын
@@अण्वायुवरीवर्त yeah no one does, except those claiming cow dung will save India
@अण्वायुवरीवर्त
@अण्वायुवरीवर्त 3 жыл бұрын
@@arun3568 many people do know but they are not the ones controlling the society.
@BigMan111
@BigMan111 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Achint and Kabir are the only two people who are actually having a proper conversation. The others speak irl as if they were on twitter
@studyhard7539
@studyhard7539 Жыл бұрын
Can't people start to protest to have huge worlds best hospital with huge modern equipments in ayodya where people are fighting have ram mandir or mosque...bro we are going to madir or mosque to prey for health can't we make that holy land thats claimed by both hindus and muslim be life saving place to both religions and create employment.
@explorer063
@explorer063 Жыл бұрын
​@@VeganSanatani let's see who gonna win in the upcoming battle
@VeganSanatani
@VeganSanatani Жыл бұрын
@@explorer063 we have already won.. Look at the election results
@debodatta7398
@debodatta7398 Жыл бұрын
Real title should be "Can North Indian Hindus and North Indian Muslims See Eye To Eye?" Because this stuff would never happen in South India, here we all live together as INDIANS not muslims or Hindus first. and never against each other like these people are.
@VeganSanatani
@VeganSanatani Жыл бұрын
@@debodatta7398 because Hindus of South Indian are id🥎its, they are too blind to see the reality, in the space of 2016 to 2019 in Karnataka more than 24600 hindu women went missing. The highest conversation and forced conversion rate is in Kerala and Karnataka.. Hindu festivals cannot be decorated with saffron colours, The CM of the states openly call for the destruction of Santan. All because there was that one Dude Called Periperi, who could not resist sleeping with his daughter... And Hindus wouldn't let that slip. Grow up grow up ..
@suvi1812
@suvi1812 3 жыл бұрын
The way they sidelined achint's trauma is so sad.
@silverkittyzen
@silverkittyzen 3 жыл бұрын
I hated how they were all just silent when they came to sit down. It's one thing to be tongue tied but how did NOBODY even say 'I am sorry for your loss'? And when Kabir eventually said it he was criticised! Saying 'I am sorry for your loss' is NOT the same as taking blame!!! It's a way of expressing sympathy!!!! When Ali said 'Not my business, not my problem' I wanted to kick him below the belt.
@spd1000
@spd1000 3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens with Hindus & still Other side Is projected as PERPETUAL VICTIM
@dev_peace_soul
@dev_peace_soul 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverkittyzen leave I use to trust jubilee but now I understood its all Propaganda
@comet6740
@comet6740 3 жыл бұрын
It was awkward and no one knew who should speak first. I think they did well. Could have been much better but at least they didn't completely ignore it.
@rezamohammed9778
@rezamohammed9778 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverkittyzen how? he said it as a formal apology on behalf of the community. they all should’ve said im sorry for your loss, but at the same time, none of them are to blame for the death. meanwhile, some of the other people were denying the facts and sidelining the experiences of muslims such as the sacrifice. if you are fearful of death when it comes to tradition, there is clearly something really wrong. so please don’t criticize the muslims without critizing the hindus for denying that muslims face discrimination. i agree with you that the trauma is real, but you have to look at everything from a broad sense
@Shawn_mike34
@Shawn_mike34 8 ай бұрын
Girl in red is a Muslim now. She did a nikah.
@abhi.ku2432
@abhi.ku2432 8 ай бұрын
Are you sure??
@Shawn_mike34
@Shawn_mike34 8 ай бұрын
@@abhi.ku2432 definitely. Nikkah can only happen between 2 muslims.
@mustafaabdirahimmohamed9578
@mustafaabdirahimmohamed9578 6 ай бұрын
​@@Shawn_mike34 are you Muslim?😂 and how do you know abt her marriage or if she did a Nikka because I think so your talking rubbish
@electraheart2823
@electraheart2823 5 ай бұрын
@@Shawn_mike34not really,
@Shawn_mike34
@Shawn_mike34 5 ай бұрын
@@electraheart2823 you saying "not really" to look cool but it's far from reality. Nikah can ONLY happen between 2 muslims
@sumigarcia1059
@sumigarcia1059 3 жыл бұрын
I am not even hindu and can clearly see that Pallavi isnt deep in to hinduism, she is clearly fond of her husband's side(islam). Both Pallavi and Ali were obnoxious in the way they attack people in the group that doesnt go with what they believe in. The both of the them has potrayed a bully mentality in my opinion.
@shubhankar3164
@shubhankar3164 3 жыл бұрын
you're spot on
@pratikb8131
@pratikb8131 3 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, Kabir won hearts.
@captainlevi7188
@captainlevi7188 3 жыл бұрын
@@pratikb8131 absolutely not...he went onto say "are we settling scores right now?"
@krishnamante22
@krishnamante22 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@aahana4931
@aahana4931 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainlevi7188 right like the lack of empathy,kashmiri pandit issue is being used as anti muslim propaganda by the Government but saying that to a victim
@harisadu8998
@harisadu8998 3 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely disgusting of Jubilee to include Pallavi on the programme because she is Pallavi Sharma, an Indian National Congress spokesperson. It is highly inappropriate to include politicians on a discussion between people who are supposed to be laymen.
@saloni495
@saloni495 3 жыл бұрын
Also she is so condescending
@rhythmdew8928
@rhythmdew8928 3 жыл бұрын
Does that discredit her as a strong Hindu woman who advocates her believes so promisingly?
@zaidkhanna
@zaidkhanna 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhythmdew8928 Yes, because she came with an agenda, her political agenda and not as an individual representing Hindu faith and beliefs. This is part of narrative building right here.
@ShivamSingh-cz8th
@ShivamSingh-cz8th 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhythmdew8928 Yeah she was consistently saying that the divide has happened after 2014 for her all the bad things has happened after 2014 I was also thinking why she is always targetting the government now I get it
@rhythmdew8928
@rhythmdew8928 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShivamSingh-cz8th it's absolutely possible for one's personal beliefs to line up with their political beliefs. If she think the 2014 govt did something wrong, she's allowed to say it. If you don't agree with her, that's allowed too. My point is the other comments just blatantly tagged her a muslim which I think is not fair!
@jackbest8842
@jackbest8842 3 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with Achint's patience and Kabir's patience. Especially Achint considering his past.
@dampmaky
@dampmaky 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, much respect to them both
@RatherA
@RatherA 3 жыл бұрын
Lol what past? He’s lying to his teeth. Kashmiri conflict is solely political not religious. More than 80,000 Kashmiri muslims have been killed by Indian military since 1990s while only 89 Kashmiri Hindus were killed by militants mostly for being associated with Indian state and at the same time more than 3000 Kashmiri muslims were killed by same militant group for working for india
@rohitbhardwaj3926
@rohitbhardwaj3926 3 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA source?
@erikalenoeye8925
@erikalenoeye8925 3 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA you can clear your beliefs by watching videos about kashmiri pandits gen*cide
@dracarysgirl2048
@dracarysgirl2048 3 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA why would he lie? And what source do you have before you came here crying?
@Ripar_here
@Ripar_here 5 ай бұрын
Wow 4 muslims and 2 hindus great debate
@scificyber
@scificyber Ай бұрын
Who were the 4 Muslims? Ion want to hear Pallavi, bc she never stated she was Muslim
@Iyyer-z1w
@Iyyer-z1w 20 күн бұрын
​@@scificybernikah is done between two muslims with their approval , yes she married a muslim and that makes her a muslim.
@Hyperblaze241
@Hyperblaze241 13 күн бұрын
@@scificyber she married to a muslim
@scificyber
@scificyber 13 күн бұрын
@@Hyperblaze241 that still doesn't make her Muslim lol? Where did u get this idea from? I am Muslum and this is a completely false narrative u guys are painting to suit ur agendas
@Malabarswamy
@Malabarswamy 12 күн бұрын
​She married a muslim and all through the debate she was defending her husband religion only. Of course she never forgot to cast her hindu parents as bigots. This is more than enough if you an iota of common sense to know who she is batting for ​@@scificyber
@disgruntled.pelican5324
@disgruntled.pelican5324 3 жыл бұрын
Zaarah is right about it being easy to talk about these issues in a safe space like this with a group of seemingly upper class well educated lot. Doing so in the real world is more complicated.
@cutedummyd7521
@cutedummyd7521 3 жыл бұрын
a whole lot more. it's actually so deeply ingrained in the minds that people don't wanna even consider that they're wrong. people like my parents- _sigh_
@pnut3844able
@pnut3844able 3 жыл бұрын
It's only complicated if you make it such. For instance, I'm an atheist and don't care who knows it. I refuse to be judged or let someone try and shame me for it.
@taichai5346
@taichai5346 3 жыл бұрын
she barely talked-
@krisanthonysilveira8244
@krisanthonysilveira8244 3 жыл бұрын
It's not easy having such conversation in a normal setting with your friends as anyone can turn hostile very soon
@pnut3844able
@pnut3844able 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zdaren dude, they're speaking about their culture in another country. They're gonna have accents. Deal with it smh
@sans_1993
@sans_1993 3 жыл бұрын
Ali at the starting of the video: "Hindus got killed by muslims, so what? I don't care, not my problem!" Ali minutes later: "yes muslims are being killed, and I blame the government for it." Pallabi throughout the discussion: " I will personally take offense on behalf of all the muslims, and you can not stop me!"
@bemymellow9842
@bemymellow9842 2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi was only doing this all cause she wants to convey to others how government is dividing both castes. It's all political, which I think should not be the correct topic to talk about here. Since she came to discuss about Hindus and Muslims she should have talked about that and not basically showing her opinion that everyone went downhill SINCE 2014.
@kh-fk3ko
@kh-fk3ko 2 жыл бұрын
It's not his fault though, it is however the governments job to stop both people from doing that from one another.
@lifeanddeath3072
@lifeanddeath3072 2 жыл бұрын
That's Muslim for ya
@kh-fk3ko
@kh-fk3ko 2 жыл бұрын
@Alexios I Komnenos they can, they just brown. We brown people treat each other like crap. If it isn't someone else it's within ourselves based on what caste you're in or which region you're from. That's why our situation is so bad. Look at how Europeans treated an invasion into Ukraine.
@vybs9235
@vybs9235 2 жыл бұрын
@@kh-fk3ko I don't think you should talk on a topic if you don't have the correct info about it. Its literally only the Hindus and Government's fault. They literally torture the muslims bro, the muslims never did anything to them.
@zarlashtstanikzai955
@zarlashtstanikzai955 3 жыл бұрын
As an Afghan Muslim, it was heartbreaking to hear about Achint's past but it was absolutely infuriating to listen to people's reactions to that. Like how hard is it to empathize with someone who has had to ho through something as painful as that? Kudos to you Achint for your patience and for not hating us Muslims. Respect. Edit: No longer responding to the comments. Thank you but I'm not going to engage in further identity wars.
@swetasinha2294
@swetasinha2294 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for understanding dude
@user400
@user400 3 жыл бұрын
fellow afghan muslim!
@zarlashtstanikzai955
@zarlashtstanikzai955 3 жыл бұрын
@@swetasinha2294 👍👍
@zarlashtstanikzai955
@zarlashtstanikzai955 3 жыл бұрын
@@user400 ❤️🇦🇫
@Aloksharma-oe1gm
@Aloksharma-oe1gm 3 жыл бұрын
I am indian and in my college there are many Afghani studying engineering , we love them a lot . The time was hard for them when Taliban took over but we tried as much to make them feel home . I LOVE AFGHANIS SOO MUCH
@Better-k6t
@Better-k6t 8 ай бұрын
What if i say, Palestine suffers, not my problem 💀
@Messihaz
@Messihaz Ай бұрын
yeah we can see on social media how you take so much sadistic joy in something that is "not your problem"
@sarov7658
@sarov7658 Ай бұрын
Not my problem ​@@Messihaz
@Messihaz
@Messihaz Ай бұрын
@@sarov7658 the hindoooos of chittagong rn is not my problem either lmao
@tusharsharma1363
@tusharsharma1363 Ай бұрын
​@@Messihazwell atleast you accepted there are problems with Hindu in Chittagong, well atleast that is a start for you in secularist journey, most muslims believe they are always victims and never oppressors.
@bhawanameena9718
@bhawanameena9718 18 күн бұрын
​@@Messihaz muslim in mayanmar is also not problem, so they should be returned
@omnium_gatherum
@omnium_gatherum 3 жыл бұрын
"Not my problem" Ok that was insensitive as fck
@aaryakulkarni2222
@aaryakulkarni2222 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely why there was no point of this video.
@Atilla_the_Fun
@Atilla_the_Fun 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaryakulkarni2222 There were other people in the vide too??
@aarusong16
@aarusong16 3 жыл бұрын
But his perspective is different right? If in UP mob linching is happened. Then its totally wrong. But I'm as a hindu, i don't feel responsible becuase i haven't even do pr think such thing justifiable. But why should i explain to society? Yes that is insensitive to tell this in front of someone who affected due to this. That is indeed. But guy's perspective is also valid.
@omnium_gatherum
@omnium_gatherum 3 жыл бұрын
@@aarusong16 hopefully you realize I never said anything against his overall perspective. I'm referring to a specific thing he said. However, since you went further, I'd have to say I disagree with where people think they have no responsibility to be part of a positive difference, especially if they belong to a group that throughout history has been a source of violence. It's honorable when someone chooses to be a part of changing that. Looking the other way, in a sense, makes you a part of the problem does it not? As far as him saying he isn't a part of the hate, yeah I get that. But what he said, what I specifically mentioned, was a pretty messed up thing to say regardless
@vedantdubey2316
@vedantdubey2316 3 жыл бұрын
yes!! we can easily dodge any question saying that
@tejasvirana9923
@tejasvirana9923 3 жыл бұрын
i’m absolutely disgusted by how insensitive Pallavi & Ali were towards Achint’s father’s death. i think Pallavi was speaking more about muslims & from their side and instead of sharing her opinion, she was just trying to get others to agree with her?? this would’ve been way better without Pallavi.
@theeternal6890
@theeternal6890 2 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse
@Abhishek-hs8zi
@Abhishek-hs8zi 2 жыл бұрын
She is muslim pretend hindu
@ronak1937
@ronak1937 3 ай бұрын
We cu*ts let the do it to us
@gigilolo4660
@gigilolo4660 3 ай бұрын
She is a politician. Congress party's spokesperson.
@ayartleague7607
@ayartleague7607 2 ай бұрын
Why do you people always try to play a victim card? 😐😐
@parnakundu6140
@parnakundu6140 2 жыл бұрын
I love the moment when Kabir explains Chinmay's point in a better way and Chinmay goes " This guy understands me so well. " Isn't that all which matters concerning the current scenario ?
@wafajamal3720
@wafajamal3720 2 жыл бұрын
ikr...that was wholesome
@tej9027
@tej9027 2 жыл бұрын
True that was so wholesome
@TedEhioghae
@TedEhioghae 2 жыл бұрын
Stop acting as if Islam is not evil.
@shivitiwari3705
@shivitiwari3705 Жыл бұрын
@@TedEhioghae no it’s not dude
@peace8655
@peace8655 Жыл бұрын
​@@TedEhioghaeno it's not
@NationalSecurityGuard108
@NationalSecurityGuard108 8 ай бұрын
Population of Sikhs in 1947 in Pakistan: 20 lakhs Population of Sikhs in 2024 in Pakistan: 30k Population of Sikhs in 1947 in India: 60 lakhs Population of Sikhs in 2024 in India: 3.8 CR They're reduced to 30k from 20 lakhs in Pakistan, Increased to 3.8 cr from 60 lakhs in India.
@infiniteeva3569
@infiniteeva3569 6 ай бұрын
Same goes to hindus as well bro. Hindus in Pakistan 1947 is over 20% but now they r less than 2%
@sachin7488
@sachin7488 4 ай бұрын
reproduced data like ur mother did to u? lol
@itr8247
@itr8247 3 ай бұрын
Sikhs in pakistan are like 8000 not 30k
@khubaibking7061
@khubaibking7061 2 ай бұрын
Migration??
@VikasShrivastava007
@VikasShrivastava007 2 ай бұрын
Genocide and forced conversion. ​@@khubaibking7061
@kaceobrwa7039
@kaceobrwa7039 3 жыл бұрын
inviting a politician to talk about political issue , sums up the credibility of this channel
@madhavmathur4008
@madhavmathur4008 3 жыл бұрын
like she is just a wannabe liberal
@scrubs3050
@scrubs3050 3 жыл бұрын
I am literally shocked, just found out she is a spokesperson of the INC, no wonder
@12pack
@12pack 3 жыл бұрын
who..? was a politician
@sameulroy2757
@sameulroy2757 3 жыл бұрын
@@12pack pallavi
@12pack
@12pack 3 жыл бұрын
@@sameulroy2757 lol wtf no doubt now i understand why she is inclined
@tryingtobebetter5382
@tryingtobebetter5382 2 жыл бұрын
When I studied in mumbai in school i remember one of my troubled classmates who had to change schools due to psychological reasons. She was elder by few years and her uncle and mother tried hard to make her fit . She was very apprehensive and wouldn't talk. Few years ago connected with her on Facebook . We chatted and turns out she is super friendly . I asked her why was she soo weird in school and what i heard has broken my heart . As a young child her father , her uncle and grandfather were chopped and thrown in a well and she and her sister was molested and rape. The twin sister couldn't survive because her orifices bled and got infected .her mother and aunties faced similar torture with her aunty dying due to internal haemorrhage and mother gangraped. It was a miracle how she and her mother escaped and reached Jammu to her mamaji. She was soo traumatised that for years she couldn't go to school . She started 4th grade with us after long break in mumbai where her other mamaji lived . We always felt she was too tall too fair and too older than us when we were kids and she was picked up a lot by bullies but hats off to whatever she survived
@SPhyd
@SPhyd 2 жыл бұрын
horrible 😲
@rudrakshasaraf2197
@rudrakshasaraf2197 2 жыл бұрын
Me hun pallavi :me ek chinaar hun or mera pesha hai ki bjp or hindu ko neecha dinkhao kyu mujhe hypnotise kr dia gya ek muslim ladke ne isliye me ab raNdtv dekhti ho or quint jese channel ko follow krti or apne modern ke nam me secular ki aad me mulla se shadi bhi kr leti hun ye hun pallavi chinnar randi Kesi lagi me doston apko Me akeli nhi hun mere jesi or bhi jese barkha dutt 😇
@ju_kh_ak8138
@ju_kh_ak8138 2 жыл бұрын
@@rudrakshasaraf2197 my blood boils when I see women like PALLAVI.
@rudrakshasaraf2197
@rudrakshasaraf2197 2 жыл бұрын
@@ju_kh_ak8138 bhai maaf krna sab mujhe ek ladkiyon ke liye mere liye bhaut ijjzat hai magar esi ladkiyon ko dekh ke mujhe pta nhi kya ho jata hai musalman hai dushman i know but ye jo ghar ke dushaman hai inka kya karein bolo or sala sabse zyada iske vo ladkiyan hai jo freedom ki baat krti hai magar inhi ladkiyon ko burkha me rehne ka bhi shauk hai kaha ki hypocracy hai first you ask from hindu ki mujhe skirt or chote kapde phen ne do fir uske baad tumhe burkha phenna hai kisi mulle ka bolo bolo randiyan bolo pallavai rannd kuch toh bol
@tanushidubey4981
@tanushidubey4981 2 жыл бұрын
i hope she's okay now
@3minsofhorror798
@3minsofhorror798 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I sound crazy but I wish these were even longer. Like 45mins to an hour. This is hands down my favorite series on here to watch. It’s really deep and informative. I’m hooked.
@sakshamtyagi9652
@sakshamtyagi9652 3 жыл бұрын
Fr like other videos have 6-7 questions and this had only 4. Although the discussions were more elaborate and detailed. Otherwise there are too many cuts.
@longlivesparkles13
@longlivesparkles13 3 жыл бұрын
hopefully one day do release uncut versions too!
@cacspathshala3554
@cacspathshala3554 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is not Hindu, she is herself atheist and Anti Hindu.
@saucenado4844
@saucenado4844 3 жыл бұрын
@@cacspathshala3554 no one cares stop spamming
@Snowy265
@Snowy265 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, with topics discussed and the people involved, it was way too short.
@rahulagarwal.19
@rahulagarwal.19 3 ай бұрын
When a Hindu tells their problem, it is seen as a defence or a revenge, because if any injustice is happening to majority it's not even considered injustice. Foolish kids.
@nanditadas6332
@nanditadas6332 3 жыл бұрын
Should have put a Bangladeshi or Pakistani Hindu and seen what they had to say. It willl blow yalls mind what we've been through and how little media rep we get
@mudita4449
@mudita4449 3 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat very much agreed
@nanusingh2278
@nanusingh2278 3 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat 😁 Another Libru. Who don't want to see the difference between facts and ideology ( of a cult).
@sunnyroy2818
@sunnyroy2818 3 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat itna easy nahi hota to leave ur house and everything u built in pakistan and bangladesh, not every hindu is rich like u
@nanusingh2278
@nanusingh2278 3 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat As expected a lone soul roaming in comment sections😏. You didn't understand our Hindu brothers for sure most of them. And I don't Think so HINDUS near by are abrahmics or religious who have strict code of reading scriptures. All indians who read indian scriptures.. Or dusra ke chodo time kharab hi karoge.
@AK-db2ph
@AK-db2ph 3 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat No, u missed the whole point. India is secular because of hindus. If muslims became majority kashmir exodus events would be more frequent. We have already seen how even an educated muslim put their religion ahead of national and secular interest.
@saichander4337
@saichander4337 2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is the only one sitting there and objectifying Hinduism. Feeling the loss and experiencing the loss hits you totally different, Kabir and Achint big salute to you brothers your maturity speaks.
@demonslayer3683
@demonslayer3683 2 жыл бұрын
Objectifying Hinduism is fine but selective objectivity that she illustrated is seriously annoying. You can easily feel like she wants to highjack the conversation and wants to superimpose her thoughts on others. She spoke like what she thinks is the ultimate truth. Her tone was also quite different from others.
@rohitgajwani
@rohitgajwani 2 жыл бұрын
musalman se shaadi ke hai usne kya expect kar sakte 🥲🥲🥲
@harshilgala9402
@harshilgala9402 2 жыл бұрын
@@rohitgajwani prospective shradha lol
@anmoldarjee3162
@anmoldarjee3162 Жыл бұрын
@@demonslayer3683 it's not fine, if done other way around will u say the same
@hokage774
@hokage774 Жыл бұрын
bro she isnt objectifying the religion cmon dont be like those BJP people. She said what Indian archaelogical evidences proved that there is no proof or whatsoever that Ram was born there, she didnt say it she just narrated the records of indian archaelogical department and to be honest It was intentional move by bjp to say that they really hate muslims and other hindus should too because they took the birthplace of ram, this is agenda
@bhawesh7268
@bhawesh7268 2 жыл бұрын
Secularism summarized in India... Entire Hindus are responsible for Babri Masjid Demolition... But when we talk about 450+ temples demolished in Kashmir we are setting scores...
@tiktokasylum5186
@tiktokasylum5186 2 жыл бұрын
@Vibhor Srivastava nonsense the literally president is connected to a genocide
@yourcryptobro0
@yourcryptobro0 2 жыл бұрын
She never said entire hindu community was responsible for it, she just said one wrongdoing cannot justify other. Talking about secularism, we should be secular in our thoughts if we want to coexist. There is nothing wrong in being secular.
@lifeanddeath3072
@lifeanddeath3072 2 жыл бұрын
@@yourcryptobro0 secularism in Saudi Arabia? Pakistan? Syria? Iraq? Afghanistan?
@piyushgour4928
@piyushgour4928 2 жыл бұрын
Kasmir is not hindu muslim issue you andhbhakt.. It's more separatist and border issues
@yourcryptobro0
@yourcryptobro0 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifeanddeath3072 bro, what is the need to bring those countries? We were born in India, We will talk about India. I dont support those countries at all. They aint even democratic countries. I would never want to go to such countries.
@karlmarx7913
@karlmarx7913 5 ай бұрын
A INC spokesperson Pallavi, converted muslim giving her secularism. 😂
@scificyber
@scificyber Ай бұрын
Where did she say she converted? Timestamp please?
@aniket0902
@aniket0902 Ай бұрын
@@scificyber She did nikah, isnt that obvious? Non muslims arent allowed to do nikah
@DukeOfSummerset
@DukeOfSummerset 24 күн бұрын
Average Lindu L
@Gossip_goblin_real
@Gossip_goblin_real 19 күн бұрын
​@@DukeOfSummersetrepresentative of your religion
@Hemalkukurkure
@Hemalkukurkure 11 күн бұрын
@@aniket0902 interriligious marriages do exist? There is literally a seperate act for it...also nikahs may also be done for ceremonial purposes and not strictly religious purposes....akbar and his hindu rajput wife had both a muslim wedding and a hindu wedding
@theanm1587
@theanm1587 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a middle ground with Pakistan and India, as someone with parents from either country
@anujpramanik1819
@anujpramanik1819 3 жыл бұрын
How interesting. I'd genuinely love to hear how did your family come to be.
@manasmishra7219
@manasmishra7219 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine watching cricket
@deeppatel1583
@deeppatel1583 3 жыл бұрын
I have friends from Pakistan and we have a middle ground discussion ever time we meet. We watched cricket together peacefully which is a lot to say.
@Quinn2
@Quinn2 3 жыл бұрын
My roommate is from pakistan and her boyfriend is from India (I'm from US). Until living with her, I had no idea just how much tension there was between the two countries! I'd love to learn more about this
@bullseye6969
@bullseye6969 3 жыл бұрын
There arent any Hindu left in Pakistan, so how you are going to do that Mr.?
@jonathanmichael3609
@jonathanmichael3609 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a conversation just between Kabir and Achint. These two were the most humble, looked beyond prejudice and spoke intellectually, but got the least chances to speak.
@Yahoo1213
@Yahoo1213 Жыл бұрын
Either remove pallavi from this debate or add ex muslim in this debate that would this debate fairly.
@sandhyadewda3750
@sandhyadewda3750 Жыл бұрын
@@Yahoo1213 fr
@hey_you.
@hey_you. Жыл бұрын
​@@Yahoo1213 exactly 💯
@reyaning
@reyaning Жыл бұрын
@@Yahoo1213 ex Muslims are no longer Muslims, would it be fair to have an ex Muslim there but no ex Hindu?
@reyaning
@reyaning Жыл бұрын
@@Yahoo1213 watched the video for a little longer and I kind of agree now, pallavi isn’t an ex Hindu but it feels as if she is closer to science and other religions than her own
@deepalil1085
@deepalil1085 3 жыл бұрын
I could relate a bit to brother Achint's pain. During 1992-93 Bombay riots my uncle's hand was cut , he was 14 years old boy and other relative was murdered. We don't hate Muslims but there is mistrust. I cannot imagine Brother Achint's trauma. Sorry for your loss. May we have peace.
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx 3 жыл бұрын
muslims have suffered too if not more
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx 3 жыл бұрын
@Lil Omii that simply isnt true, especially considering the bjp and how Muslims are the minority and the situation in Kashmir but okay
@prism7990
@prism7990 3 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx BJP has done more to benefit the Muslims than any other govt so far. Scholarships, grants, reservations, triple talaq abolition. Hindus have suffered disproportionately more than any community in Indian subcontinent, just see the situation in Pak and Bangladesh. Acting like victims all the time when you are the biggest perpetrator community.
@Bzdm0
@Bzdm0 3 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx I don’t think the person is meaning to say that one community suffered more than the other. They probably mean they had bad experiences which make trusting people difficult for them on a individual level.
@timepasstubee
@timepasstubee 3 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx y'all are the "minority" in India but you're the majority in the whole world, after christianity. Be thankful and let people of other religions live in peace. Since y'all are following the *so called* religion of peace.
@manjuchandra2000
@manjuchandra2000 8 ай бұрын
Pallavi is not Hindu now, she is married to a Muslim.
@scificyber
@scificyber Ай бұрын
How does that make her non-Hindu?
@tusharsharma1363
@tusharsharma1363 Ай бұрын
​@@scificyber because she converted A Muslim can't marry a polythiest woman. If we go by Quran, SRK married a polythiest woman and he also does shirks, so is not a Muslim.
@joesuss4669
@joesuss4669 Ай бұрын
In islam the bride have to convert to muslim to be married to.​@@scificyber
@rushilshrivastava2656
@rushilshrivastava2656 25 күн бұрын
@@scificyber how does that her hubby makes him a muslim? isn't this gunnah , wrong in islam?
@Iyyer-z1w
@Iyyer-z1w 20 күн бұрын
​@@scificyber she married a muslim , she did NIKAH which is done between 2 muslims so ya.
@rafaelsays175
@rafaelsays175 3 жыл бұрын
Education is key. As both Hindus and Muslims live in close knit multi-generational families the discussions in households over the next two decades will define India’s future.
@mirayoon1992
@mirayoon1992 3 жыл бұрын
💯 agree and I feel bad for them when they were being divided🥺🙏
@vasudhasharma5532
@vasudhasharma5532 3 жыл бұрын
More than education in general… awareness/teaching/intermingling between the two sides. Coz I have seen highly educated people who have been in their respective silos, still having prejudices.
@metanick1837
@metanick1837 3 жыл бұрын
Do schools and colleges actually teach us to not to hate other community..I've never seen something like that in a book.
@BeastMaster-gc5zg
@BeastMaster-gc5zg 3 жыл бұрын
@@metanick1837 I did in like 7th standard. In civics there was this thing about tolerance. Sadly, you don't have the capacity or maturity to grasp that concept when you're that young. When you do get older you're in 11th 12th grade where those subjects don't exist
@metanick1837
@metanick1837 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeastMaster-gc5zgBut do they teach us about the limit of Tolerance..Imagine you watch your parents get absolutely beaten to death...will you just watch them getting murdered to show that you have Tolerance or will you do something..?
@kavyajaswani1801
@kavyajaswani1801 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi was representing the hindu side just because she was born in that religion and not because she wanted to.This is not fair to put her up from hindus side.
@executorben9800
@executorben9800 3 жыл бұрын
seems she was representing Muslim side
@jobwesleycoxjr5103
@jobwesleycoxjr5103 3 жыл бұрын
She's hindu whether you like it or not
@clarie8486
@clarie8486 3 жыл бұрын
@@jobwesleycoxjr5103 ur weird
@jobwesleycoxjr5103
@jobwesleycoxjr5103 3 жыл бұрын
@@clarie8486 Weakest. Comeback. Ever.
@clarie8486
@clarie8486 3 жыл бұрын
@@jobwesleycoxjr5103 idc 😑😑
@tryingtobebetter5382
@tryingtobebetter5382 3 жыл бұрын
This only shows how insensitive people are towards hindu suffering. Why did vandalising350 temples in Kashmir pushed under a rug while babri is still hot topic?. That achint suffered so much but instead of being sensitive towards him they became hostile.
@mr.perfect1067
@mr.perfect1067 8 ай бұрын
Why we suffer all the time let others suffer
@chadxlr3978
@chadxlr3978 Ай бұрын
Because babri mosque a historic mosque was destroyed by a Hindu mob was thousands and no one stopped them. Showing that Hindus are violent and evil like u
@RosesTin4.00
@RosesTin4.00 Ай бұрын
Bcoz u hindus dilibertly built temples in Kashmeer and settled (same like jews r doing in west bank) their bcoz ur gov. is telling hindus to move there
@WrathofFenrir99
@WrathofFenrir99 29 күн бұрын
@@mr.perfect1067 You oppress yourselves through castes and discrimination, then cry only when someone else is doing it to you.
@inboxsureshgn
@inboxsureshgn 28 күн бұрын
Only Hindus have caste system and discrimination? What do you call a fight between Shia vs Sunny, Catholics vs Protestants... Characterstic of animals including humans is to create a group and establish supremacy on other groups. The day your ideologies better than mone make this world a worst place to live. Some religions are doing that more than others in a race to spread and convert complete world into one religion. THAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM.
@roshithshetty1632
@roshithshetty1632 3 ай бұрын
6:23 “ I am the representative for myself “ dude, you are literally called here to represent that religion smh.
@prathmeshkalehere
@prathmeshkalehere 2 күн бұрын
Ikr 😂
@ѕуєям
@ѕуєям 2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi's and Ali's behaviours were legit making my blood boil. Well Idc about them but I'm really happy with the others behaviour. They were so polite and kind and they were actually speaking facts. Lots of respect for them.
@peak_911
@peak_911 2 жыл бұрын
"they were actually speaking facts" lol title is wrong "Can indian hindus and indian muslims see eye to eye?" What about opinions of hindus in pakistan and bangladesh?
@abhaysardar2275
@abhaysardar2275 Жыл бұрын
@@peak_911 this interview focused on india.
@rt20089
@rt20089 Жыл бұрын
​@@peak_911should be done I'd say. I'm from Bangladesh and I'm seeing how Hindus are being discriminated against by the majority Muslims. the situation is even worse in Pakistan sadly
@abhinaysingh8306
@abhinaysingh8306 Жыл бұрын
@@abhaysardar2275why don't they make for pakistan and bangladesh? do you know condition of hindus of pakistan and bangladesh?
@starlightseeun
@starlightseeun 9 ай бұрын
omg ru a kpop stan? i see sugaaa on ur pfp!
@diyasen9470
@diyasen9470 3 жыл бұрын
'Are we settling scores?' As a Hindu , this was disturbing. Hundreds of temples have been destroyed since antiquity but as always, Hindus are expected to endure. Kudos to Mr. Achint for not bowing down to hatred. Peace.
@chaitanyabuilds
@chaitanyabuilds 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I don't wish them to be remorseful as they had nothing to do with it. But, they should atleast acknowledge this issue. But she just tried to deny it altogether.
@sakshamtyagi9652
@sakshamtyagi9652 3 жыл бұрын
Hindu agnostic 🤡 yeah I'm a Marxist liberal
@diyasen9470
@diyasen9470 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamtyagi9652 Sir, Hinduism is not just a religion. It is a cultural identity, quite like Judaism. An atheist or agnostic person can still be Hindu because Hinduism gives us the liberty to choose our beliefs. Thank you.
@lbell9695
@lbell9695 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a hindu agnostic too - don't really believe in hindu mythology but I believe full heartedly in hindu (advaita) philosophy
@kunalmandhare3144
@kunalmandhare3144 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamtyagi9652 This is typical of people who do not read enough about a specific topic and then jump to comment. Hinduism has different school of thoughts, Instrinsically even a nasthik (atheist) is a hindu (not just for name, but it is a school of thought within hinduism), None of the Abrahamic religion have this particular concept.
@shree711
@shree711 3 жыл бұрын
Guys, Pallavi Sharma is a politician. She's an Indian National Congress spokesperson. Her opinions are agenda driven and it is highly unfair to include her in this discussion which is supposed to be among laymen who have their own opinions.
@juice8431
@juice8431 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh if this is true I am pretty disappointed in jubilee. Usually, their content is pretty spot on but this time it seems they havent done their research well. Might have been due to their lack of understanding of this country but still.
@vedantdubey2316
@vedantdubey2316 3 жыл бұрын
exactly!!! this is my point
@Tate525
@Tate525 3 жыл бұрын
This is an integrity issue, they have brought an outright politician on the show driving the agenda. I'd even tolerate Ali to some extent as rude as he is, he is speaking his own mind and not some agenda, but I won't tolerate that thotweiler sitting among them, she barely let even the Muslims speak let alone Hindus themselves.
@kunalmandhare3144
@kunalmandhare3144 3 жыл бұрын
@@OkarinHououinKyouma Views like Pallavi are exactly why Congress is not winning elections. This has been said by various research institutes and think tanks having a neutral orientation.
@nischaltyagi8672
@nischaltyagi8672 3 жыл бұрын
True, patani is pappu ko kyu bulaya
@jayavats3958
@jayavats3958 2 ай бұрын
It's 2 Hindus v/s 4 muslims. Pallavi is muslim by marriage. Not a fair battle ground.
@scificyber
@scificyber Ай бұрын
No she isn't, being married to a Muslim doesn't make u Muslim 💀
@scificyber
@scificyber Ай бұрын
No she isn't, being married to a Muslim doesn't make u Muslim 💀
@jhawar-ji
@jhawar-ji 2 жыл бұрын
Quoting NYT?! Seriously that's the last thing you want to do while debating on Hindu-Muslim conflict.
@bselftudy5859
@bselftudy5859 2 жыл бұрын
India will not secular , if Muslims will majority in India becouse 92 percentage Muslim countries are Islamic not secular like india
@absurd3694
@absurd3694 2 жыл бұрын
Even before the independence European newspapers like nyt and times have printed wrong and twisted images of India to reflect and expand the negative side I'm a 12th class student and our politics ncert book qoutes and shows times and other European newspaper headlines And they were always against india and anti asian
@dmat606
@dmat606 2 жыл бұрын
@@absurd3694 nytimes European kabse hogaya bhai. Acche se padhai Karo 12th mein.
@souvikbera3067
@souvikbera3067 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmat606 He meant the west, jyada oversmart mat ban
@_chapternumberone_8782
@_chapternumberone_8782 2 жыл бұрын
@@souvikbera3067 then he should have said the west. Europe and North America are clearly not the same. instead of giving a rude answer try to understand and learn from your mistake.
@dotsanddash8083
@dotsanddash8083 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgusting, how the Kashmiri pandit was shut down just for saying the truth, “are we settling scores ?”, no remorse, for the genocide of Kashmiri pandits,the thousands of temples destroyed and mosques built over.
@writerchick94
@writerchick94 3 жыл бұрын
What was the point of his comment if not settling scores? His detractors said those things happened and were terrible. They also pointed out that the destruction of temples doesn't justify the destruction of masjids. Both are bad and should stop.
@itr8247
@itr8247 3 жыл бұрын
@@writerchick94 If a mosque was built on a destoryed temple, it should be returned to a temple.
@suhan6390
@suhan6390 3 жыл бұрын
Same hindus did with Sikhs in Delhi in 1984..
@writerchick94
@writerchick94 3 жыл бұрын
@@itr8247 He wasn't referring to that masjid. He was referring to temples in Kashmir. I'm also not sure why Muslims of today should suffer because of something Muslims of the past did (i.e. building a masjid on top of a temple). There is a middle ground that doesn't result in continued suffering on either side. To do otherwise is just settling scores.
@siddharthyadavchekkala2845
@siddharthyadavchekkala2845 3 жыл бұрын
@@writerchick94 Hindus are not asking for every destroyed temple to be returned They are asking only 3 temples tk be returned. Having mosque on that site is also illegal in Islam.
@morningsun8387
@morningsun8387 3 жыл бұрын
I was very disappointed that Jubilee casted someone with a political background(Pallavi- spokesperson of congress). Political people can never be true. She is just carrying out her agenda. Also she is married to a Muslim.
@k_26_kashifahmed88
@k_26_kashifahmed88 3 жыл бұрын
You do realise they have had people from political backgrounds countless number of times before. Sometimes even the spokesperson of the very issue that they are debating.
@lobhasdhuri6566
@lobhasdhuri6566 3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@morningsun8387
@morningsun8387 3 жыл бұрын
@@lobhasdhuri6566 Pallavi.
@nctsgrass
@nctsgrass 3 жыл бұрын
@@morningsun8387 which one is pallavi?
@jv3198
@jv3198 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xcvbn3355 lol you don't know anything about hinduism.
@PraveenShankam
@PraveenShankam 5 ай бұрын
It would hve made sense if they had Hindus from Pakistan and Bangaldesh too. You would have got a holistic view.
@LucaGiovanni490
@LucaGiovanni490 5 ай бұрын
How about Hindus from Everywhere else too? Why are you excluding all 200+ countries 😂
@sultanateofpapuanewguinea793
@sultanateofpapuanewguinea793 2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi said: “let’s be honest we’re all privileged but the people on the ground… etc” Achint literally just said his dad was assassinated when he was 15! Does that sound like privilege? Ali also disregarded Achint’s story by saying that things had been peaceful lately…
@musqitonebeats2129
@musqitonebeats2129 2 жыл бұрын
that's what islam does to you, rotten the brain cells
@potato6439
@potato6439 2 жыл бұрын
We don't k know if the dude is privileged tho. His father being a martyr doesn't tell us that he has no money?
@musqitonebeats2129
@musqitonebeats2129 2 жыл бұрын
@@potato6439 Kashmiri pandits built their new lives from scratch after exodus, sure pandit is a privileged casts doesn’t means all pandits are rich especially the ones who were removed from kashmir
@potato6439
@potato6439 2 жыл бұрын
@@musqitonebeats2129 I never said they were rich In the first place
@subhadramahanta452
@subhadramahanta452 2 жыл бұрын
@@musqitonebeats2129 You know, there was no caste in the Kashmir region, all people were called Pandits there since it was mainly the learned people of the society who used to go there, stay in isolation and do their research.
@richa9420
@richa9420 3 жыл бұрын
I like how both communities reflect the masses in some way. Like we all loved Kabir and Achint we loved how patient and thoughtful they were. How kabir was humble enough to say sorry for Achint's loss, and Achint was understanding enough to actually have this conversation. Then we have Chinmaya and Zarah who harbours some apprehension, not hate but apprehension, due to some experiences of their own. Then we have Ali and Pallavi, who didn't really give anything to the conversation. I didn't feel the slightest bit represented with Pallavi , irritated at times? Yes. I felt more represented with Zarah
@ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback
@ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, absolutely agree w/ this breakdown!
@rmano6518
@rmano6518 2 жыл бұрын
100% true
@bunbrowny8753
@bunbrowny8753 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@naaziyasulthana7796
@naaziyasulthana7796 2 жыл бұрын
Yep,this proves there are all kinds of people among all kinds of people !!
@ronak1937
@ronak1937 3 ай бұрын
Aly and Pallavi wereone team
@NEETASPIRANT-ho3jh
@NEETASPIRANT-ho3jh 9 ай бұрын
They have got 1 billion Hindus but all they found was Pallavi
@Ashutoshsingh-lp6bz
@Ashutoshsingh-lp6bz 6 ай бұрын
dollars kitna mila hai 😅😅😂 not only in this debate in bollywood, ads, all over the society 😂 but they don't able to stopped sanatan dharma after their all efforts and Yes they have not courage to invite real hindu who know all knowledge of 4 veads 😅
@ShashankaPappala
@ShashankaPappala 3 ай бұрын
hahahahhahahahha
@v.vijaybalakrishna1612
@v.vijaybalakrishna1612 2 ай бұрын
Bro...she is not a hindu....it reflects some thing else... saying she is hindu....I hope u get what it is reflecting in her
@aniket_barma
@aniket_barma 2 ай бұрын
Shee married with muslim boy and she also accepted Islam
@SSJOMI
@SSJOMI 2 ай бұрын
@@aniket_barma that says it all.
@_am-_
@_am-_ 2 ай бұрын
13:27 why she suddenly got angry on the fact that there was a mandir below the mosque.... But then she turned the conversation to the ram was born on that place.... Nobody says that Ram lalla was born on the exact same place but we say there was a mandir which was built there and after that babri masjid was built on top of that. And ASI have also provided enough evidence of that that's why court couldn't say anything now on this matter. Cause we have enough proof of that we had a mandir on that land and muslim must give us our mandir back.... But just like someone from the panel said " not my business, not my problem" I would like to same thing "not my mosque, not my problem" But that mosque wasn't used for many centuries then why people cry over for it now??
@indra_vrtrahan
@indra_vrtrahan 2 ай бұрын
Politics that's why, they have internalised hatred for being unable to convert us after so many years, only nation standing as it did 5 thousand years ago.
@Omair.786
@Omair.786 3 жыл бұрын
Kabir is so thoughtful and patient with his answers
@arsalaanasad4422
@arsalaanasad4422 3 жыл бұрын
@@KINGJERMARCUS MANIFEST ITTTT!!!!
@alidk5701
@alidk5701 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zdaren they speak perfectly, just because it's a different accent than yours? People are out here learning languages and you can't bring yourself to understand an accent? Do better.
@irenesbaes
@irenesbaes 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zdaren i bet they speak English better than you.
@gayasshoe8578
@gayasshoe8578 3 жыл бұрын
right he seemed so nice
@sophiad8895
@sophiad8895 3 жыл бұрын
Right?? He was so sweet and respectful 😇
@Mytravelaccounts
@Mytravelaccounts Жыл бұрын
The way Ali said that “not my problem, why take the blame for it” and how Kabir apologised shows two different kinds of persons- emotionally immature and mature and such people exist everywhere regardless of religion.
@hilarycoyote
@hilarycoyote Жыл бұрын
I agree. What Kabir was doing was NOT taking the blame. He was showing empathy. ❤
@debodatta7398
@debodatta7398 Жыл бұрын
Real title should be "Can North Indian Hindus and North Indian Muslims See Eye To Eye?" Because this stuff would never happen in South India, here we all live together as INDIANS not muslims or Hindus first. and never against each other like these people are.
@chaitravernekar3617
@chaitravernekar3617 Жыл бұрын
​@@debodatta7398Yeah udaynidhi Stalin was spreading love when he was saying that sanatan dharm should be eradicated and the whole crowd was cheering for him 😂😂😂 You guys are so delusional and happy in your own imagination NGL I am from Davangere, Karnataka and I am also not andhbhakt .
@story-ju9cu
@story-ju9cu Жыл бұрын
​​@@debodatta7398 yeah you are political obsessed fool, just blindly hating ,and your name represent bengali what an irony.
@VRhwanDanikik
@VRhwanDanikik Жыл бұрын
Yep dam thing. Ali and Pallavi was in a mission to prove that individual actions doesn't represents musim community. But on the next point they were blamming and judging whole BJP becuzz of some individuals actions
@amatya.rakshasa
@amatya.rakshasa 2 жыл бұрын
Only one person said "I'm sorry for your loss". That was surprising. That should've been the first thing anyone should've said. One woman made her first statement about her, that she felt fear when she heard that the dude was a Kashmiri Pandit. Great that every expressed their feelings and lauded the dude for his maturity but the first thing to come out of their mouths shouldve been an expression of sympathy for the horrendous tragedy the dude went through.
@ive-3692
@ive-3692 2 жыл бұрын
I was very confused when she said that. Why does she fear a Kashmiri pandit? Was it because she thought she might receive hate?
@amatya.rakshasa
@amatya.rakshasa 2 жыл бұрын
@@ive-3692 Yeah, exactly. The fear is that a Kashmiri pandit will hate on all muslims in response to the atrocities they faced.
@arpitharao1002
@arpitharao1002 2 жыл бұрын
Rather than direct the matter of how discussion of the exodus might cause Islamaphobia, they should have discussed how Hindus are unsafe in Kashmir. This kind of whataboutery is so frustrating for Kashmiri Pandits sharing their stories.
@pseudonym9215
@pseudonym9215 2 жыл бұрын
Well, its clear everyone one was sorry for his loss and were uncomfortable in how to start such a discussion. Later they moved from the topic. Its clear.
@stanwinx1144
@stanwinx1144 2 жыл бұрын
@@ive-3692 I was a little confused too. I was thinking why would she be scared when kashmiri pandits have had the hard side (i could be wrong correct me if so I'm not the most knowledgeable on this issue but i know a bit). there's a societal prejudice between hindus and muslims and it's from peoples experiences I understand i guess
@enigma2886
@enigma2886 3 ай бұрын
16:08 this girl only came here with one agenda and its clear here. Shame on Jbilee for bringing politicians in such discussions.
@shubhankar3164
@shubhankar3164 3 жыл бұрын
Kabir wants the demolishment of Babri to be acknowledged but as soon as a Kashmiri Pandit who has witnessed his father being assassinated speaks up about the demolshment of 350 < temples in Kashmir, Kabir is like "so we're keeping scores now?". Sadly for a Hindu today, the middle ground is to forget the trauma and suffering their bloodline have experienced in the past just to not be judged and appear bigoted.
@kingdom8029
@kingdom8029 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not the full story. Hindus should ignore their past cause it’s shameful and it was caused by us. We wanted to break the mosque not them. We started riots didn’t we? We initiated so much violence and then complained when it came back to us. The suffering we put out came back, that’s the law of karma which you should know if you’re such a staunch Hindu but sadly people like you speak without putting much thought into it and just blame others. Look I don’t want to offend you with this and if I did I am so sorry and trust me when I say this, both Hindus and Muslims were at fault and we should leave it in the past as we try to dissolve conflicts which have stood for years and bringing up the past would be like adding fuel to the fire.
@Power0P7949
@Power0P7949 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingdom8029 then don't cry when the same karma destroys mosques also 😂
@appeasment1149
@appeasment1149 3 жыл бұрын
350< temples in Kashmir: can I please get a proper source?
@dutcheastindies8354
@dutcheastindies8354 3 жыл бұрын
@@achintbhat9187 Hello Achint. Please have my condolences for what had happened when you were younger; you underwent what nobody else on this Earth should have to experience in their lives. I appreciate that you chose to come on this set and speak your truth in front of hundreds of thousands of people watching this video. Thank you.
@ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback
@ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback 2 жыл бұрын
What Cartman from South Park said about Muslims was pretty accurate, he said that not all of em are dangerous but a few are and we can never know which are those “few”.
@ArushiSharma14
@ArushiSharma14 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I don't think Pallavi was here from the Hindu side she was here from the anti-BJP side. More than she represented Hindus and their ideologies she criticized the govt for everything.
@suyashneelambugg
@suyashneelambugg 2 жыл бұрын
You realise the whole debate was organized by an arm of lef-media kabal? So this was obvious.
@saurabhsharma7522
@saurabhsharma7522 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.. Bc uske ghar wale khatam hogae usko tolerate hone ka gyan pel rahi h... Desh bat gya do bar.. Abhi bhi Ashanti h....Kashmir ko alag krne k lie khade hojate h... Agar Muslim marega to poori community ek hojaegi.. Kashmiri pandit mara to bolta h ali humse kya matlab ... Ye to haal h ... Or unsab k bad bhi tolerate hone ka gyan de rhe h...
@Comrade_Harsh
@Comrade_Harsh 2 жыл бұрын
True
@Rehan-i22
@Rehan-i22 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@anuragtiwari4151
@anuragtiwari4151 6 ай бұрын
Someone married to muslim can't be hindu
@ShortHax
@ShortHax 3 жыл бұрын
For both religions, life is like biryani. One cardamom and you’re done
@amadortv971
@amadortv971 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused s
@amadortv971
@amadortv971 3 жыл бұрын
Is cardamom as a spice not allowed in either religion?
@aaditya4954
@aaditya4954 3 жыл бұрын
@@amadortv971 no 😂 but when you bite the cardamom it ruins the taste
@Chainsaw18
@Chainsaw18 3 жыл бұрын
Well said lol
@disgruntled.pelican5324
@disgruntled.pelican5324 3 жыл бұрын
@@amadortv971 haha nope. It's small ball-like spice that is actually necessary to give the biriyani flavour. But we put the cardamom as whole cloves so when u accidentally bite into it, you get that pungent flavour that overrides the overall taste of the biriyani.
@refnref954
@refnref954 4 ай бұрын
As hindus, we don't own pallavi.
@jelouche
@jelouche 4 ай бұрын
she is the spokeperson of congress, so what can you expect. Her name is pallavi sharma
@sksammy3303
@sksammy3303 3 жыл бұрын
This vedio highlights the basic mentality which creates a divide. You can always find liberals such as Pallavi on Hindu side who get ultra agressive defending others and then on other side there is no moderating liberal and more over the most open minded perspective you can get is that of Ali "It's not my problem"
@morningsun8387
@morningsun8387 3 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from Pallavi. She is a congress spokesperson. Obviously she would try to carry out her propoganda. Congress mostly is anti hindu and pro muslim.
@alimurtaza6318
@alimurtaza6318 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah pallavi and Ali were really rude and insensitive, I like Anchint,kabir and zarah. The other hindu guy barely spoke anything cuz of pallavi taking up all time and Ali "that's not my problem"
@Realkhushal7
@Realkhushal7 2 ай бұрын
Yes she doesn't want to debate by hindu side she is just pretending and claiming by saying we are the majority and as a hindu by birth There is a big difference between wanting to be hindu and just having birth as a hindu She is just wearing a mask of a being hindu
@Samira_m84
@Samira_m84 2 ай бұрын
Could it be because the overwhelming majority of the victims are indeed Muslims and not Hindu? Smh
@vishw6956
@vishw6956 Ай бұрын
Mai Adam hu song released in KZbin to get ASLI enlightenment. Also NabiAsli animation videos on youtube exposing that pdf file 🙏. More than enough. Happy watching.
@Tejas_
@Tejas_ 3 жыл бұрын
The only Kashmiri Hindu in the room and they manage to shut him up. Also they didn't mention in that little text that the Kashmiri Hindus were forcefully converted and killed/kicked out of kashmir for the international viewers who may not have the complete view of the situation.
@RatherA
@RatherA 3 жыл бұрын
What fairy tale are you talking about
@ydl589
@ydl589 3 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA tum logo ko reality fairy tale hi lagegi Khud jo ek fairy tale me ji rahe ho
@fMONA94
@fMONA94 3 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA it's called reality my friend.
@ratanshukla3900
@ratanshukla3900 3 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA get educated before countering facts...
@yeagerists6302
@yeagerists6302 3 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA go and educate yourself and cry somewhere else
@SuperParnam
@SuperParnam Жыл бұрын
Pallavi has the same logic as "oh my sister's husband is black, I'm not racist". Ma'am you might have some issues
@art_n_culture3889
@art_n_culture3889 28 күн бұрын
The girl pallavi was purely anti hindu and not understanding at all,,, not only she questioned lord Rama's birthplace but also saying being apologetic gives space to others to blame you is absolute evil... (Plus I looked up that she is a politician representing inc and that was really unfair to include her),,, The guy Ali got on my nerves the moment he said "I am the representative for myself",,, like seriously, the guy just said he lost his dad,,,, that is a bigger issue... The lack of empathy
@avichalantil987
@avichalantil987 Жыл бұрын
my heart aches to see people like Pallavi who have the ability to show empathy for one side yet not for the others. It is for people like her it becomes very hard for both the communities to coexist.
@DanialAli1997
@DanialAli1997 Жыл бұрын
Becuase there’s a massive imbalance between the two sides . 70% of India is hindu, they are majority and the authority you cannot ‘both sides’ this issue
@kakashiroshi440
@kakashiroshi440 Жыл бұрын
​@@DanialAli1997 but majority of the world is Muslim, and they are the most radical and religious people ever.
@shubhamtiwari3009
@shubhamtiwari3009 Жыл бұрын
80 +
@VeganSanatani
@VeganSanatani Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think is possible for us to coexist...
@VeganSanatani
@VeganSanatani Жыл бұрын
​@@DanialAli1997just because there are 70+ % hindus .. we hindus still exist, otherwise hindus would have been wiped out, just like what happened in literally ever islamic country
@nandinigoel571
@nandinigoel571 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad how Achint's tragic lived experience was shut down so quickly and he was compared to the people who assassinated his father, especially since his father was targeted because of his religion in the first place. I didn't even see anyone condemning the perpetrators as much as they blamed Achint's potential "lashing out". In an ideal world, they should've discussed why Achint had to go through such a terrible loss in the first place (ie, the Kashmiri Pandit exodus), rather than focusing on how Achint ought to behave. That's simply disrespectful. "None of my business". "What's the difference between you and the perpetrators". It's sad, really.
@nandinigoel571
@nandinigoel571 3 жыл бұрын
Also, what even is Pallavi doing on the Hindu side xD
@Mushroom-bd3yg
@Mushroom-bd3yg 3 жыл бұрын
@@nandinigoel571 wdym?
@nandinigoel571
@nandinigoel571 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mushroom-bd3yg I think I made myself pretty clear. The focus was on how he should behave after he faced such a loss and not why he had to suffer through that loss in the first place.
@indiaininfographics2910
@indiaininfographics2910 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that a brutal genocide, r@pe & exodus of a 400,000-500,000 community from their homeland because of their religion was shut down with a "Not my business" apologia shows the utter disregard for Hindu Lived experiences and atrocities that have befallen them for 1000 years.
@nandinigoel571
@nandinigoel571 3 жыл бұрын
@@indiaininfographics2910 precisely! Especially considering the fact that a survivor was sitting RIGHT THERE and they were still making these comments and shutting him down for pretty much the entire video.
@debasmitadawn89
@debasmitadawn89 2 жыл бұрын
Ali and Pallavi, a little sympathy would go a long way. Just thinking how Ali would have reacted if the situation was reversed. Kabir is a sweetheart. He understands reality with sympathy
@rt20089
@rt20089 Жыл бұрын
The way Ali reacted when Anchit pointed out that 350 or so temples were burnt. I get it was a bit immature from Anchit's side because it kinda gave the vibe that he was downplaying atrocities committed on Muslims,but seriously was it even necessary? The way Ali just sprang into that mode..Like have some empathy?
@DanialAli1997
@DanialAli1997 Жыл бұрын
@@rt20089he’s a minority , in a hostile environment minorities adapt and act this way
@garvitkhatri4576
@garvitkhatri4576 Жыл бұрын
​@@DanialAli1997so true. But is it justified? Zarah is also a minority, her demeanor seemed more mature in that moment, would you agree?
@lightchamber2186
@lightchamber2186 Жыл бұрын
@@DanialAli1997 I'm sorry are you saying he was minority in this panel where 4 people were speaking for muslims
@rohitsondhi5767
@rohitsondhi5767 2 ай бұрын
This debate is not fair. Pallavi is a ex-hindu, an ex-muslim must be included in this debate.
@scificyber
@scificyber Ай бұрын
She isn't ex-Hindu as far as I'm concerned, she might not agree with Hindus but that doesn't change that she's a Hindu
@muskanmehra17
@muskanmehra17 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish Pallavi weren't there in this discussion. We could have had more of the rest of them.
@mukool7477
@mukool7477 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly ..... the type which disowns and insults her own sect... did the opposite team said anything abt the opposition govt or hebnious things of the past??
@denzilrodrigues3316
@denzilrodrigues3316 3 жыл бұрын
@@mukool7477 She's right though? Everything she said was right. Others just didn't speak out like she was willing to and there's always part of it that are cut out. Graham Stephan a youtber went on one of these episodes and he explained that alot of the talk doesn't make it into the final cut so maybe there's a reason as to why her points made it
@t-rexkalita1379
@t-rexkalita1379 3 жыл бұрын
@@denzilrodrigues3316 she is clearly wrong. First of all, she is not a hindu. Second she told a guy who lost his father that he was same as his killers. Now, i am in full support of france and chinese govt on the issue against uighurs.
@denzilrodrigues3316
@denzilrodrigues3316 3 жыл бұрын
@@t-rexkalita1379 I agree I didn't like when she compared him to the killers. And about her not being a hindu... she identifies as one so bit of a sticky one there. Why do you think she isn't a hindu? just curious. Could be that she still carries out hindu practsies and belives in the hindu faith but her marriage has made her see the other side so she shares a different view from other Hindus?
@denzilrodrigues3316
@denzilrodrigues3316 3 жыл бұрын
@@mukool7477 Mate I literally said I don't agree with her on that. I've been in India myself when the CAA was passed and the government shut down the entire city cutting our electricity and Internet supply. I've heard of churches being burnt and Christians being discriminated and assaulted in India all my life. I already know what it is
@CombatHD3
@CombatHD3 3 жыл бұрын
yo pallavi is the reason why inc should be banned from politics
@baghyasrib6929
@baghyasrib6929 3 жыл бұрын
I think people like Pallavi are the reason why Congress is so weak and will never win. I mean.... she's still living in her own dream land. She had to wake up and smell the coffee. The hindus have woken up and are demanding equal treatment. And ignoring the reasons for the rise of hindutva will just make things harder for INC.
@CombatHD3
@CombatHD3 3 жыл бұрын
@@baghyasrib6929 Facts
@anushkapawar8680
@anushkapawar8680 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@BeingStoic086
@BeingStoic086 10 ай бұрын
rehne do ..only brown sahebs are voting that party
@thelunatiK
@thelunatiK 3 ай бұрын
Facts
@shrey7ra
@shrey7ra 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi reduced the takeaway from this conversation. The idea of Middle Ground is to have contrasting points of view whereas hers was “friendly fire” within the context of the discussion. Also Jubilee totally skipped over what the Kashmiri Pandit genocide was, sticking to a damn bland Wikipedia entry describing the community.
@poocrayon4588
@poocrayon4588 3 жыл бұрын
Jubilee is super woke. If that had of been Muslims being genoicided you can bet there would have been a whole episode discussing it. Unless of course it happened in China.
@rezamohammed9778
@rezamohammed9778 3 жыл бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 lmao nope. like there is nothing being said in china, there is nothing being said in other places where muslims have died on a large scale, such as israel
@jeanniemaycrawford4466
@jeanniemaycrawford4466 3 жыл бұрын
@@rezamohammed9778 I think you mean Palestine
@Fahad-gf1wx
@Fahad-gf1wx 3 жыл бұрын
Jammu genocide was a hundred thousand times worse and the worst part is indian gov doesn't want anyone to know about it
@poocrayon4588
@poocrayon4588 3 жыл бұрын
@@rezamohammed9778 The whole point was they wouldn't say it against China. Only little countries who they feel free to talk about. China is totally different, don't act like Palenstine doesn't and hasn't had controlling forces and many of it's own citizens who want the total destruction of Israel. Hamas ring a bell?
@Seriously5678
@Seriously5678 2 ай бұрын
The straight up answer is no,they cannot live peacefully together
@RextheRebel
@RextheRebel 2 ай бұрын
No one can live peacefully with moose limbs.
@Seriously5678
@Seriously5678 2 ай бұрын
@@RextheRebel I agree a 100x with you 🤗🤗
@Realkhushal7
@Realkhushal7 2 ай бұрын
Yes bro even the same is happening for casteism
@sourabhkumar5821
@sourabhkumar5821 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi has a political agenda to put forward here ( member of INC). I don't think someone with a political background should be allowed in a discussion like this.
@collinnazareth4307
@collinnazareth4307 2 жыл бұрын
As an Indian Roman Catholic, Kashmiri Pandits have been the victims of a big injustice which is hardly talked about because it won't fit their agenda.
@ydl589
@ydl589 2 жыл бұрын
The relief is after 32 years finally a movie named the kashmir files is going to be released on 11th March. People should watch it
@sobhi1423
@sobhi1423 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@aggressive9999
@aggressive9999 2 жыл бұрын
Thnx
@aggressive9999
@aggressive9999 2 жыл бұрын
@@sobhi1423 puncture
@kiyadhdhanujva6688
@kiyadhdhanujva6688 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see Indian Christians supporting Kashmiri Pandits, I just feel very emotional. Thanks for understanding others pain as a Human being. My prayers are always with Kashmiri Hindus & Nigerian Christians.
@lamintss
@lamintss 2 жыл бұрын
How is it that only one person said "I'm sorry for ur loss" and the way ali and pallavi reacted to the situation just threw me off, achint wasn't even blaming the whole community for the loss and by saying sorry for his loss, Kabir wasn't taking responsibility he was just being respectful
@dhruvkarthik8811
@dhruvkarthik8811 2 ай бұрын
I am Hindu 🕉️ but respect all religions 🤝 ☪️ ✝️ ☸️ ✡️ 🪯
@AmirbekSharipov-b5z
@AmirbekSharipov-b5z 2 ай бұрын
I disrespect all religions, but Hinduism the most
@Samir2234-b6q
@Samir2234-b6q Ай бұрын
​@AmirbekSharipov-b5zFor what??
@StudyPurpose-z1n
@StudyPurpose-z1n 16 күн бұрын
All religions based on hate except hindu religions.
@user-vq3nk1bq9w
@user-vq3nk1bq9w 2 жыл бұрын
His calm shows how strong kashmiri pandits are ... hats off to him!
@pajiitslayer6042
@pajiitslayer6042 2 жыл бұрын
hahah pandits are less than 2% of kashmiri population. 97+%. of kashmir valley is muslim and it is highly anti india. ur million troops cant even keep pandits or biharis safe in kashmir from kashmiri locals
@TanishqaSharmaC
@TanishqaSharmaC 2 жыл бұрын
But I don’t think being just strong is enough...they've faced enough ..Taking action is what we all need
@firefistzenix7052
@firefistzenix7052 2 жыл бұрын
Those who still talk and think that it's absurd to blame an entire community for Islamic Jihadi attacks and genocides, I recommend those people to take some time to read Quran & Hadees and then you'll know why this special peaceful community does it. I know it might be sounding communal to those delusional secular or liberal people, but I hope for you guys to at least know the exact reason behind their actions. For a sneak peak of sorts, check what Kafir and Mushriq means
@aggressive9999
@aggressive9999 2 жыл бұрын
True
@Janamjanmmke
@Janamjanmmke 2 жыл бұрын
Because his calmness his parent died. Because of his calmness minorities are dying. You can't show calmness front of extremest and terrorists 😂
@Not_a_poet
@Not_a_poet 9 ай бұрын
1000 YEARS OF COEXISTENCE WOW I didn't know oppression, genocide, and slavery is termed as coexistence
@lumiant2882
@lumiant2882 8 ай бұрын
What genocide?
@conantt29
@conantt29 8 ай бұрын
​@@lumiant2882 the kashmiri pandits?????
@lumiant2882
@lumiant2882 8 ай бұрын
​@@conantt29 They didn't face a genocide, it was an exodus.
@xlr8_bs514
@xlr8_bs514 7 ай бұрын
@@lumiant2882 It was a genocide followed by an exodus. It was the most brutal genocide in India since 1947.
@lumiant2882
@lumiant2882 7 ай бұрын
@@xlr8_bs514 80 deaths is not considered a genocide.
@Flying_Spaghetti_Monsterr
@Flying_Spaghetti_Monsterr 9 ай бұрын
If you're inviting a Congress spokesperson, you should be inviting a BJP spokesperson too. This is not fair at all. She had the agenda all along. Shame on you Jubilee !
@tech-interview-meetup2171
@tech-interview-meetup2171 11 күн бұрын
Title should be Can Muslim vs Other Religions see eye to eye, look all over the world.
@shubhambhat8458
@shubhambhat8458 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Kashmiri Pandit and it was saddening to see Pallavi making a mockery of Achint's pain just to state her point. I felt Kabir was most sensible amongst all of them. Ali was absolutely disrespectful to Achint.
@kanadchauhan
@kanadchauhan 2 жыл бұрын
Ali is typical hatefull Muslim around us, who refuse to take even prasaad bcoz its haraam in Islam.
@arshan3217
@arshan3217 2 жыл бұрын
No she did not make a mockery of achint's pain
@manasraina3528
@manasraina3528 2 жыл бұрын
@@arshan3217 sure she did
@demonslayer3683
@demonslayer3683 2 жыл бұрын
@@arshan3217 she did made fun of him.
@user-zzc345
@user-zzc345 2 жыл бұрын
@@manasraina3528 she didnt
@shadowhymn5162
@shadowhymn5162 2 жыл бұрын
The debate has 4 Muslims and 2 Hindus. Pallavi and Ali are one hell of a PoS. They want Anchit's personal loss to blamed on Anchit's own destiny. While Ali's own community want responsibility from Hindus. Lol.
@ydl589
@ydl589 2 жыл бұрын
It's just so easy to expose hypocrisy -j sai deepak
@ojasgarg5553
@ojasgarg5553 2 жыл бұрын
Ya the no. game made me unsubscribe them and I reported the video as well
@theeternal6890
@theeternal6890 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@pajeetrodgers2572
@pajeetrodgers2572 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, pyare anon. 2025 Ab Dur nahi
@spillintea683
@spillintea683 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojasgarg5553 reported for what 😂😂😂💀💀
@shreyabhat8887
@shreyabhat8887 3 жыл бұрын
Me being a kashmiri pandit i know fully well what achint has been through Seeing ur family getting killed ,houses getting burned nd us running away from our mother land for the fear of our lives. And just watching people like pallavi being so ignorant about these facts and the other girl literally being “scared” of us makes me feel pity for their mindset.
@Lyallpuriya
@Lyallpuriya 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know how many Muslims of Jammu were murdered in 1947? Jammu was ethnically cleansed from it's Muslim population. I have sympathy for the Kashmiri Pandits for what they have suffered after the 90's but Muslims of Jammu also suffered the same fate in 1947.
@thetommo4404
@thetommo4404 3 жыл бұрын
Even in the comments section you guys fight...so hopeless
@afeefanaseem
@afeefanaseem 3 жыл бұрын
why is the girl being scared of voicing her opinions bother u so much??? she has a genuine reason to be scared.... it would be ignorant on YOUR part if u disagree with the fact that muslim woman have the complete freedom of speech and opinion in modern day india where majority are hindus
@gouravsharma-nq5vs
@gouravsharma-nq5vs 3 жыл бұрын
I knew from the very start Hindus won't support each other and have different thoughts but looking at pallavi . Shows her hypocrisy
@Aloksharma-oe1gm
@Aloksharma-oe1gm 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lyallpuriya muslims never have sympathy for hindus , you clearly talk about ummah(islamic brotherhood) that means you will favour muslim even if he is the oppresor
@kaju140
@kaju140 14 күн бұрын
Pallavi and ali’s ignorance and audacity riddles me speechless honestly and quoting NYT in a Hindu muslim conflicts discussion panel is absolutely crazy. Some sympathy from them to a population who went through a gut wrenching genocide on their own motherland would be appreciable .
@sallysimpson77
@sallysimpson77 3 жыл бұрын
A very one-sided discussion imo. Standing up for Muslims is considered progressive and empathetic, while stating facts about atrocities against Hindus is considered fascist and regressive. True representation of today’s “woke” culture. Especially the Pallavi chick is so disappointing to watch
@ArmanAlam-il7fw
@ArmanAlam-il7fw 3 жыл бұрын
"atrocities against hindus" such as?
@darkpanda239
@darkpanda239 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArmanAlam-il7fw the Kashmir ethnic cleansing, the mopla massacre, persecution in Pakistan and Bangladesh
@sobhi1423
@sobhi1423 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkpanda239 What ABT lynchings in india and there is no current genocide of Hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh or kadhmir
@sobhi1423
@sobhi1423 3 жыл бұрын
@Rakshita Singh Bruhhhhh do you know That in Bangladesd those goons are arrested .... millions of Hindus live in gulf muslim countries that are safe there
@Pradyumna-e8r
@Pradyumna-e8r 3 жыл бұрын
@@sobhi1423 Why is gulf always bought into discussion? Millions of Hindus over there are workers, not citizens.
@abhi4987
@abhi4987 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the debate among 4 Muslims and 2 Hindus.
@doubt5539
@doubt5539 Жыл бұрын
True . One of Hindu being affected by genocide while all Muslims being free from it . Guess what who’s in danger .
@redrakham5787
@redrakham5787 Жыл бұрын
Haha my point exactly 💯
@arshiiia
@arshiiia Жыл бұрын
don't say that lmfao most hindus think like the girl, but we are more quiet while BJP stans are crazy loud.
@sandhyadewda3750
@sandhyadewda3750 Жыл бұрын
But in reality 3/4 Hindus are sickular (pseudo sickularism)
@soosonvi5407
@soosonvi5407 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking.
@tan_bha
@tan_bha 3 жыл бұрын
I think Ali and Pallavi were kinda rude when achint was talking about his trauma. Achint experienced his father being assassinated first hand. I cant even imagine going through it. Respect to kabir for giving his condolences and being apologetic even though he didnt have to be.
@ashilyjustin4748
@ashilyjustin4748 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi was extremely radical !!
@anshikab22
@anshikab22 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashilyjustin4748 exactly
@heylo5030
@heylo5030 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi was a terrible representation for the Hindu community, I’m sorry.
@007swarup
@007swarup 3 жыл бұрын
It's was unfair ,4 muslim representatives and only 2 hindus (ps- people like Kabir is a gem)
@OROgoldenpair1
@OROgoldenpair1 3 жыл бұрын
It was kind of insulting. I'm pretty sure he didn't need to be spoken for, yet they did anyways...
@NationalSecurityGuard108
@NationalSecurityGuard108 8 ай бұрын
😢According to Islamic law apostasy is punishable by death, imprisonment or confiscation of property and blasphemy is punishable by death. Conversion from Islam to another faith is also considered as a serious offence under Islamic law.
@scificyber
@scificyber Ай бұрын
No u can still choose to apostate without publicizing it, also why wouldn't it be punishable by death, it would be considered treason? Imagine if a US citizen went against the govt, they would be put to death, now if a Muslim becomes an apostate they might not want to follow Islamic laws, which would be going against the state. They also might try to get other ppl to apostate, and therefore it could lead to more ppl not following the law
@fakeaccount704
@fakeaccount704 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is not letting others talk. She loves the sound of her own voice
@jaidaisthequeen5633
@jaidaisthequeen5633 3 жыл бұрын
Vio
@niceperson1985
@niceperson1985 3 жыл бұрын
If she did let him speak then she would have realised how wrong it was
@dracarysgirl2048
@dracarysgirl2048 3 жыл бұрын
I bet her kids would be Muslims too.
@dracarysgirl2048
@dracarysgirl2048 3 жыл бұрын
Babri masjid is built on the ruins of our temple
@user-rx6wv4eb8x
@user-rx6wv4eb8x 3 жыл бұрын
@@dracarysgirl2048 yes.
@diyapatel-264
@diyapatel-264 3 жыл бұрын
Kashmiri Pandits being represented is really appreciated because it's severe discrimination that the world at most is unaware of or just ignores. Thank you but I wish they would've let him talk more lol
@swetasinha2294
@swetasinha2294 3 жыл бұрын
They didnt even let him talk
@akankshajoshi8788
@akankshajoshi8788 3 жыл бұрын
Well u see if he had talked more, the agenda would hv been exposed
@arun3568
@arun3568 3 жыл бұрын
@@akankshajoshi8788 surely would have because the only topic India talks about is religion not some very not soo important stuff like economy, unemployment.....
@akankshajoshi8788
@akankshajoshi8788 3 жыл бұрын
@@arun3568 well here it was about religion right? What did u expected them to talk about? Economy, jobs? Economy jobs are also topics for discussion, but when the tpic here is faith so talk about that
@narendrarawal8208
@narendrarawal8208 3 жыл бұрын
I believe they should've let the conversation be in the language the person is comfortable in coz I believe the Kashmir pandit was struggling with English because of which he couldn't really express completely what he wanted to say
@prajwalupadhyay133
@prajwalupadhyay133 Жыл бұрын
It was never a 3v3 convo to begin with but rather a 4v2
@ummedsinghmarue-5798
@ummedsinghmarue-5798 11 ай бұрын
agree bro
@MahirSingh-mu6eu
@MahirSingh-mu6eu 10 ай бұрын
@Byteminds-gd2je was seventh person inivisible?
@sreyaar5199
@sreyaar5199 10 ай бұрын
@Byteminds-gd2je what?? there were 6 people only. did u watch the video first?
@harshkumar-uo1vc
@harshkumar-uo1vc 10 ай бұрын
Agree
@justsomeguywithoutagirl4956
@justsomeguywithoutagirl4956 10 ай бұрын
That Pallavi is from congress. Of course she is gonna speak against BJP and everything related to it. She is the worst candidate here
@Rishi-ko3jv
@Rishi-ko3jv 3 ай бұрын
The hindus here haven't read hindu philosophies and history. The muslims here also haven't read Muslim philosophies and history. Fair debate..👍 😂😂😂
@stannisbaratheon5763
@stannisbaratheon5763 3 жыл бұрын
Shame on you Jubilee, bringing a anti-hindu politician to represent the Hindu community. It was just a forum to bash those 2 hindus & make them feel bad about their indentity. Anchit having the most traumatic experiences was shut down & belittled that's so messed up.
@animesvt1234
@animesvt1234 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, my blood is actually boiling after seeing this video. All she said was fabricated and lies. Hate Jubilee for doing this
@felidaesaremoresuperiortha5855
@felidaesaremoresuperiortha5855 3 жыл бұрын
anti hindu? u pindus want to be discriminated soo bad.
@stannisbaratheon5763
@stannisbaratheon5763 3 жыл бұрын
@@felidaesaremoresuperiortha5855 Stfu you bigot go do your homework. This woman is an opposition politician who's job is to spread lies & hate for the majority community & tarnish the image of the country. Were you born yesterday? Don't you know how politics work.
@felidaesaremoresuperiortha5855
@felidaesaremoresuperiortha5855 3 жыл бұрын
@@stannisbaratheon5763 politics work? arent u still livin in ur moms house arguing with ppl.
@pP46457
@pP46457 2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi has the sirname 'Sharma' which is also a hindu sirname. But as she married a muslim and and has issues with the religion she was born in, she should change her sirname, to a muslim sirname. She's also a part of a very hypocrite political party here in India INC, which pays less attention to religious rights of the majority religious group here in Indian .
@Shettyyyyboyyy
@Shettyyyyboyyy 3 жыл бұрын
The fact they accepted it that they r the privileged lot of ppl who r speaking on this panel is really great ....there are many who don't get a chance to speak abt this ....hope this brings a change ....pls do keep making such videos ....
@onechamp5016
@onechamp5016 3 жыл бұрын
What privileges are you talking about?
@dracarysgirl2048
@dracarysgirl2048 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah even I wanna know about these privileges? What privileges?
@cryptonitegaming5284
@cryptonitegaming5284 3 жыл бұрын
@@onechamp5016 to be educated.. most of them seem to be very educated and also very fluent and clear with thier speech
@yajrodihsat8272
@yajrodihsat8272 3 жыл бұрын
A 100% correct
@Zdaren
@Zdaren 3 жыл бұрын
NEXT TIME PLEASE GET PEOPLE THAT CAN SPEAK ENGLISH WELL, THANK YOU
@darshsagarvines9332
@darshsagarvines9332 Жыл бұрын
basically debate is Between Hindu - Anchit and chinmay Muslim - Pallavi, ali, sarah and kabir.
@rituarya9187
@rituarya9187 11 ай бұрын
I don't know how come pallavi is considered muslim😂😂
@Redwater352
@Redwater352 11 ай бұрын
If I am a Muslim and I vote for bjp, I become a Hindu? What is this logic 🤯🤯
@adarshbawariya
@adarshbawariya 11 ай бұрын
​@@Redwater352where did that come from?
@darshsagarvines9332
@darshsagarvines9332 10 ай бұрын
@@rituarya9187 she is already married to a muslim guy...
@darshsagarvines9332
@darshsagarvines9332 10 ай бұрын
@@Redwater352 many hindus vote congress By that logic are they muslims ? No Pallavi is well known advocate She married to muslim guy If you read quran, muslim guy is not allowed to marry non muslim or kafir She is muslim Plz read history, and compare it to present
@udjsdhirjejekjwks8261
@udjsdhirjejekjwks8261 Ай бұрын
There were 4 muslims and 2 hindu's in this debate.
@bhavnajalalbisht2721
@bhavnajalalbisht2721 3 жыл бұрын
There's a imposter among us 1)Pallavi Sharma is from Congress she is a politician who is obviously anti bjp 2)She has given several anti-hindu statement before that and it was evident which side she supported on this debate How is it fair to include her from the hindu side
@VivekTiwari03
@VivekTiwari03 3 жыл бұрын
Jubilee, or at least their Indian team, is a woke channel and they specifically chose these woke fellas to make a point. That's what they do.
@ankershiv
@ankershiv 3 жыл бұрын
So anti-bjp is anti-hindu? bhag bsdk.
@vedantdubey2316
@vedantdubey2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@ankershiv those two are seperate points. he did not mentioned "as" or "because"
@MdAnwer-iz6im
@MdAnwer-iz6im 3 жыл бұрын
Bhavna Jalalbisht Not a single she ever made ever anti hindu statment, stop lying.
@vedantdubey2316
@vedantdubey2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@OkarinHououinKyouma ture af
@suchitanairr
@suchitanairr 3 жыл бұрын
Pallavi mahn. She was pushing her thoughts onto others not presenting her views/points. I could see the chinmay dude getting nervous when he spoke after pallavi. I appreciate kabir and achint a lot for keeping their calm and presenting their points how they should, unlike pallavi. Great discussion!
@bhakti8008
@bhakti8008 3 жыл бұрын
She was being completely statistical. She wasn't letting others speak. She spoke with Ali when he dismissed Anchit's trauma. She said that a few people don't represent an entire community But then was questioning the whole hindu community when the ram mandir case was brought up. I think Kabir was the wisest And the most compassionate person in that room. There should have been more talks between him and Anchit.
@suchitanairr
@suchitanairr 3 жыл бұрын
@@bhakti8008 agreed!
@aimi_mirai
@aimi_mirai 3 жыл бұрын
She married a muslim guy i dnt think she is middle ground😑
@spd1000
@spd1000 3 жыл бұрын
A Hindu woman who married a Muslim, behaving More Muslim than Muslims
@idontcare3147
@idontcare3147 3 жыл бұрын
Yup at point it was kind of annoying. Some of her points were kind of correct but the way she was pushing her thoughts on other was just NO
@arusha0516
@arusha0516 3 жыл бұрын
Hindu or Muslim, Pallavi is the wrong pick for this video; listening is key to finding a middle ground.
@tejasvirana9923
@tejasvirana9923 3 жыл бұрын
i absolutely agree.
@shoeb434
@shoeb434 3 жыл бұрын
She made fair points, as did others. I don't clearly understand why did she/her words get under your skin. I am not Indian, but it seems this might have something to do with her being vocal of what's happening in India post-2014.
@tejasvirana9923
@tejasvirana9923 3 жыл бұрын
i mean, she stated false historical records & as soon as Achint mentioned the record of temples demolished in kashmir, she and the other guy were like “so we’re keeping records now?” (Various materials have been found during excavation which suggest the presence of a Hindu structure beneath. Also, The Supreme Court noted that the Babri Masjid was not built on a vacant land and the excavated underneath structure was not Islamic in nature)
@shoeb434
@shoeb434 3 жыл бұрын
@@tejasvirana9923 The other guy did not say "so we're keeping records now?" He said "are we settling scores?" Settling score is an English expression which means entirely different thing than keeping records. Someone had done you wrong, and you are doing him wrong now in return is "settling scores". On to your point of excavation: If there is a Mosque in place, how come you could excavate there. You must demolish it first to see if there is anything else underneath. Isn't it?
@tejasvirana9923
@tejasvirana9923 3 жыл бұрын
@@shoeb434 and obviously, everything in our history is noted so it is important that we mention the “scores” the amount of times Hindus have been exploited is just depressing and I know that people from all religions live here peacefully now but it still hurts us because of all that our ancestors had to go through & YET WE ARE SUFFERING.
@xuser-w3o
@xuser-w3o 2 күн бұрын
I am a hindu and i have many friends who are muslim and my parents never told me that dont talk to them ...
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